Thanks for this. (especially the switch explainations) Sure I could just 'RTFM' but having it explained gives me time to carefully pick my options while I'm putting this thing together.
Fantastic video. Thanks for the reassurance that I did everything correctly. I went from the JAMMIX to MisterCade and had to tweak the files slightly. But it all worked out. 🙂
Amazing! I really appreciate your video; the set-up, precise info and easy to follow instructions. Hopefully, these will be available to order soon as they are currently sold out. But, it is something to look forward to. BTW, I really love your Egret II.
Thanks! The MS9 was harvested from a Sega Astro City candy cab. The 27" Zenith tube that was in there originally was burned out when I received the cab.
Hi, thanks a lot for your tutorial I have a question I am using a mistercade in an Egret 2 cabinet I can't have Stereo sound at a decent volume (it is very soft) I've checked software output level, level pot on the mistercade, and output level on the egret 2 (i've also checked the bypass switch on the mister) it seems sound is not amplified enough (but i've used some stereo PCB on that egret cabinet with no problem would you have any idea, please ? thanks
I setup everything the way you showed me in this video. The games are running fine on the HD tv. But when I take it to the arcade the screen just keeps scaling up. Even when I adjust it to stay still, as soon as I start playing it slowly starts doing it again. I can see the lower part of the screen image over my head in the game. How can I stop it from doing that?
It depends. The console and arcade cores all operate at 15kHz, so you may want to use 15 on your monitor to match the native resolution. 31kHz requires upscaling and although the MiSTer has a fast, quality upscaler, why use something you don’t have to? That said, the upscaler does allow you to scale & rotate the output (run vert tate games on a hori monitor) and apply scanlines and video filters, so use 31khz if you plan on using any of those features.
It does not, but you can order inexpensive PCB feet that will work great with it. www.amazon.com/BCQLI-Console-Motherboard-Fixed-Plastic/dp/B07H2BGGSF/ref=mp_s_a_1_4
Thanks for the great video!! I have question: i have a jamma expander which is the same as Mister and I still don’t know how to activate the coin function !! Any idea ? Thank you
I haven’t used the JAMMA Expander myself but if it works like the MiSTercade, you should be able to pull up the MiSTer Menu, go right one screen, and choose Bind Controls. As you step through the control bindings one by one, when it asks for a Coin binding, drop a coin into you cab.
Hi - Just set up my vertical cab. DonPachi and MiSTer menu looks great / proper perspective, I used the CCW profile. however many other games (Contra / Journey) are reversed. Is there a way to get those right side up? If I used a CW profile I assume those would be fine, but then DonPachi and MiSTer menu would be reversed.
Some of the cores (including Contra) have a Flip option in the Menu settings for the core that will flip the image 180 degrees to match your CCW profile. However, some cores don't have a Flip option and there isn't an easy solution for those games that I know of currently. There has been some discussion of adding a 180 degree rotation option to the MiSTer's scaler implementation, which would make that feature available to all games.
@@ShootTheCore Thanks - yeah Contra and Journey don't seem to have that option (flip), Donkey Kong, Pacman etc do tho and it works. I'm thinking I may need to flip my tube to CW position and configure DoDonpachi as the exception to flip. Are you able to flip Contra in MiSTer by chance?
@@wrightguyz Yep, start Contra and then go into the DIP Switches menu. You’ll see Flip Screen as an option in there. Change it and then choose Reset at the bottom of the list.
Thanks - wow I must have checked that at least 5 times...Jedi Mind Trick, hah...journey and "up & down" don't have flip currently either in core or DIP switch controls.
Is button 4/D support enabled by default (e.g. for Neo Geo games)? Or does the Chamma option has to be enabled for button 4/D to work, since the vanilla JAMMA standard only supports button 1/A to button 3/C? I watched the whole video but I couldn‘t hear or see any dip switches or jumpers that could change that pin next to button 3/C on the harness (as I said except of the CHAMMA switch)
Thanks for the video and documentation. Very helpful and appreciated. Could the adding of the mister ini (15khz Yoko) kill the hdmi out? I just get a black screen on hdmi. Also I don’t get any arcade roms loading. Could it be they’re aren’t part of the update all as of June ‘22?
Most HDMI displays don’t support 15khz (320x240) resolution, so that’s likely why you’re not seeing anything from your HDMI port. As for the arcade ROMs, make sure you’re running the update_all script and not just the regular update script. I built a fresh MiSTer last week and update_all still downloaded all of the arcade ROMs for me properly.
@UC3faVp03qcy9WpyyJLYvKtQ when the mister is running the update all, you have a couple of seconds to hit an arrow key (can’t recall which) that goes into further settings. There you can enable MAME Gettr that download the Roms. You can select other stuff too.
12V is already present on every stock JAMMA harness - no hacking necessary. Original JAMMA games use 12V to power the sound circuits and speakers. Just plug the MiSTercade into your stock E2 harness and power on! :-)
Double-check that all the connections are tight and also try changing the jumper on the MiSTercade that selects whether it's powered by your arcade PSU's 5V or 12V line to the other setting from where it is currently.
A SuperGun is designed to connect a JAMMA arcade board up to a consumer TV. The MiSTercade will work with a SuperGun if you have one but it’s easier and cheaper to just hook MiSTer up to a consumer TV directly without using either a SuperGun or the MiSTercade add-on hat. As for stereo over JAMMA, the standard doesn’t allow for it - it’s Mono only.
@@ShootTheCoream I right in understanding that all cores output Stereo, but via Jamma it is mono only? And the only way to get Stereo, is to bypass the Jamma connector? And the way to bypass that is to either plug something in to the RCA jack or the 3.5mm Mini jack? So I theory, you could have an astro city, which is mono only. Set up a mistercade, then replace the existing crappy speakers with a 2.1 system, power that up separately, and plug in to the mistercade mini jack - and you're good to go?
@@sinetwo MiSTer itself has stereo audio, but much of the hardware that MiSTer cores simulate was mono back in the day. With the MiSTer’s current arcade cores for example, Capcom CPS1.5 and CPS2 are pretty much the only stereo cores-everything else is mono. Likewise, all JAMMA arcade cabs are designed to support mono sound through the harness with an amplifier on the game board itself. Only a few JAMMA cabs (Astro City is one of them) also supported stereo audio amplified via a dedicated amp inside the cab. Original game boards would send both amplified mono audio over JAMMA and line-level stereo through RCA ports simultaneously. Cabs with a stereo amp typically have a switch to flip the speaker output between dual mono board-amp-driven audio and stereo cab-amp-driven audio. MiSTercade acts the same as an original stereo JAMMA board - it outputs amplified mono audio through the JAMMA harness and line-level dual mono or stereo audio (depending on the core) through RCA ports simultaneously. Hope that answers your question!
@@ShootTheCore thanks so much. I find it so odd that stereo wasn't a primary consideration at the time, but I appreciate that earlier it may have been in the transition period. Or arcades were just too loud to care. As far as I'm aware, the OG Astro City is mono by default. New Astro City is stereo. But with this setup, it sounds like I could get the OG AC, rip out the crappy speakers, install a small 2.1 system, and just run the audio via the breakout on the Mister board.
Question.. I have a modded Arcade1up cab.. I have it running an RP4 and PC, via hdmi.. is it possible I can setup the mistercade and run it via hdmi? as I do not have the old school cab to utilize the jamma connector.. (I would assume since it has the DE10-nano kit attached, that would be possible?)
Yep, you should be able to install a MiSTer in your Arcade1Up cab without a MiSTercade. Use HDMI for the video, plug the controls into a micro-USB hub, and power it with the AC adapter that comes with the DE-10 Nano.
@@ShootTheCore I figured that was the way to go. I actually have a mister fpga already.. i had thought i needed a separate mistercade for arcade use..now I have to return the mistercade and sdram I bought from misteraddons lol..
@@ShootTheCore I already have a premade fully loaded mister fpga digital version that has an sdram i bought from misteraddons.. the mistake i made was buying the mistercade thinking i could use it in my other modded arcade1up cab (it has an rpi4).. however the mistercade needs a jamma connection and has to be with an old school cab like in your vid. i made a novice mistake.. for those reasons I will be asking for a refund/return once i receive the mistercade/sd ram in the mail
@@ShootTheCore I saw one shop on ali promtinig a mister fpga with jvs but for the love of god I can not find this shop again and googling does not help at all. Anyway thank your for your response.
Yes, the Coin trigger on the mechanism shows up in MiSTer as a button, so you can bind a Coin insert to any input the game supports - including the Coin input for the console cores. You could insert a coin on a console core to pause the game for example. :-)
Thanks for this. (especially the switch explainations) Sure I could just 'RTFM' but having it explained gives me time to carefully pick my options while I'm putting this thing together.
Fantastic and thorough video. Thanks for doing this. Can't wait for mine to get here!
Thank you so much. I been looking for this exact tutorial. You rock!!
Hell yeh awesome video brother. Always loved your content and reading your topics on the different forums you participate on.
Thanks man-much appreciated!
Thank you for putting together such an exhaustive tutorial!
Fantastic video. Thanks for the reassurance that I did everything correctly. I went from the JAMMIX to MisterCade and had to tweak the files slightly. But it all worked out. 🙂
Amazing! I really appreciate your video; the set-up, precise info and easy to follow instructions. Hopefully, these will be available to order soon as they are currently sold out. But, it is something to look forward to. BTW, I really love your Egret II.
Thank you for making this video.
Comprehensive. Thank you!
just what i needed. thank you so much for your work putting this video together!
Wow, this is really exactly what I needed...glad you covered Tate setup as well THANKS!!!
Thanks for putting this together!
Never heard anyone pronounce mono with two hard o’s before. Thanks for the tutorial!
Think of my mono mispronunciation as “cute” rather than “annoying”. 😅
What should it be? Monnoh? There's only one N. ShootTheCore's pronunciation is correct?
In the new update you don't need to change the .ini name just copy the file you need and drop it into the root file.
Thanks!
Great guide, helped me put mine together!
That's a nice MS9 in that Dynamo Cab ;)
Thanks! The MS9 was harvested from a Sega Astro City candy cab. The 27" Zenith tube that was in there originally was burned out when I received the cab.
Hi, thanks a lot for your tutorial
I have a question
I am using a mistercade in an Egret 2 cabinet
I can't have Stereo sound at a decent volume (it is very soft)
I've checked software output level, level pot on the mistercade, and output level on the egret 2
(i've also checked the bypass switch on the mister)
it seems sound is not amplified enough (but i've used some stereo PCB on that egret cabinet with no problem
would you have any idea, please ?
thanks
I setup everything the way you showed me in this video. The games are running fine on the HD tv. But when I take it to the arcade the screen just keeps scaling up. Even when I adjust it to stay still, as soon as I start playing it slowly starts doing it again. I can see the lower part of the screen image over my head in the game. How can I stop it from doing that?
when selecting 15 or 31 what should do when you have a trisync monitor?
It depends. The console and arcade cores all operate at 15kHz, so you may want to use 15 on your monitor to match the native resolution. 31kHz requires upscaling and although the MiSTer has a fast, quality upscaler, why use something you don’t have to?
That said, the upscaler does allow you to scale & rotate the output (run vert tate games on a hori monitor) and apply scanlines and video filters, so use 31khz if you plan on using any of those features.
This is excellent. Thanks.
Does the MiSTercade come with any mounting brackets so it can be mounted vertically on the inside of the cab like a lot of arcade PCBs were?
It does not, but you can order inexpensive PCB feet that will work great with it. www.amazon.com/BCQLI-Console-Motherboard-Fixed-Plastic/dp/B07H2BGGSF/ref=mp_s_a_1_4
Any idea when these will be available for sale again? Just got on the "notify me" list.
I cannot even get balena to download. Tried two different laptops? Any idea?
Thanks for the great video!!
I have question: i have a jamma expander which is the same as Mister and I still don’t know how to activate the coin function !! Any idea ?
Thank you
I haven’t used the JAMMA Expander myself but if it works like the MiSTercade, you should be able to pull up the MiSTer Menu, go right one screen, and choose Bind Controls. As you step through the control bindings one by one, when it asks for a Coin binding, drop a coin into you cab.
You should do one for the new version Dual RAM V2
Hi - Just set up my vertical cab. DonPachi and MiSTer menu looks great / proper perspective, I used the CCW profile. however many other games (Contra / Journey) are reversed. Is there a way to get those right side up? If I used a CW profile I assume those would be fine, but then DonPachi and MiSTer menu would be reversed.
Some of the cores (including Contra) have a Flip option in the Menu settings for the core that will flip the image 180 degrees to match your CCW profile. However, some cores don't have a Flip option and there isn't an easy solution for those games that I know of currently. There has been some discussion of adding a 180 degree rotation option to the MiSTer's scaler implementation, which would make that feature available to all games.
@@ShootTheCore Thanks - yeah Contra and Journey don't seem to have that option (flip), Donkey Kong, Pacman etc do tho and it works. I'm thinking I may need to flip my tube to CW position and configure DoDonpachi as the exception to flip. Are you able to flip Contra in MiSTer by chance?
@@wrightguyz Yep, start Contra and then go into the DIP Switches menu. You’ll see Flip Screen as an option in there. Change it and then choose Reset at the bottom of the list.
Thanks - wow I must have checked that at least 5 times...Jedi Mind Trick, hah...journey and "up & down" don't have flip currently either in core or DIP switch controls.
So Mistercade is powered entirely from jamma connector right? No need for other additional external power.
Correct.
What happens if you use the 31Khz ini file… on a 15khz CRT?
The screen will scramble and roll because the signal is higher than the display is designed to handle.
@4:05 - can the CHAMMA function work with the "extra buttons" on the MVS Big Red? Namely the Select Game button on pin 26
Yes, the CHAMMA switch will allow the Select button to be a bindable button on an MVS cab. You will need an MVS to JAMMA adapter for the cab.
Is button 4/D support enabled by default (e.g. for Neo Geo games)? Or does the Chamma option has to be enabled for button 4/D to work, since the vanilla JAMMA standard only supports button 1/A to button 3/C? I watched the whole video but I couldn‘t hear or see any dip switches or jumpers that could change that pin next to button 3/C on the harness (as I said except of the CHAMMA switch)
Thanks for the video and documentation. Very helpful and appreciated. Could the adding of the mister ini (15khz Yoko) kill the hdmi out? I just get a black screen on hdmi. Also I don’t get any arcade roms loading. Could it be they’re aren’t part of the update all as of June ‘22?
Most HDMI displays don’t support 15khz (320x240) resolution, so that’s likely why you’re not seeing anything from your HDMI port. As for the arcade ROMs, make sure you’re running the update_all script and not just the regular update script. I built a fresh MiSTer last week and update_all still downloaded all of the arcade ROMs for me properly.
@@ShootTheCore okay thanks for the quick reply. I’ll have to figure out why the system can’t find the arcade roms after a fresh install.
@@ShootTheCore I just had to hit up arrow before the update all started and flip the MAME Getter. ✅
@@critterarcade excellent!
@UC3faVp03qcy9WpyyJLYvKtQ when the mister is running the update all, you have a couple of seconds to hit an arrow key (can’t recall which) that goes into further settings. There you can enable MAME Gettr that download the Roms. You can select other stuff too.
Can I ask how you wired 12V in your E2 to the Mistercade? I only have Egret 2 cabs and I don't want to hack up the original Taito PSU. Cheers again.
12V is already present on every stock JAMMA harness - no hacking necessary. Original JAMMA games use 12V to power the sound circuits and speakers. Just plug the MiSTercade into your stock E2 harness and power on! :-)
@@ShootTheCore fab. Thanks. I've misunderstood and belived you had to hack the 12v line for some reason. Appreciate the clarification.
Great video but I followed your guide but when I went to plug in the mistercade it won’t power on my Astro city
Double-check that all the connections are tight and also try changing the jumper on the MiSTercade that selects whether it's powered by your arcade PSU's 5V or 12V line to the other setting from where it is currently.
What are the considerations for a supergun?
Is there any way to do stereo audio over Jamma?
A SuperGun is designed to connect a JAMMA arcade board up to a consumer TV. The MiSTercade will work with a SuperGun if you have one but it’s easier and cheaper to just hook MiSTer up to a consumer TV directly without using either a SuperGun or the MiSTercade add-on hat.
As for stereo over JAMMA, the standard doesn’t allow for it - it’s Mono only.
@@ShootTheCoream I right in understanding that all cores output Stereo, but via Jamma it is mono only? And the only way to get Stereo, is to bypass the Jamma connector? And the way to bypass that is to either plug something in to the RCA jack or the 3.5mm Mini jack?
So I theory, you could have an astro city, which is mono only. Set up a mistercade, then replace the existing crappy speakers with a 2.1 system, power that up separately, and plug in to the mistercade mini jack - and you're good to go?
@@sinetwo MiSTer itself has stereo audio, but much of the hardware that MiSTer cores simulate was mono back in the day. With the MiSTer’s current arcade cores for example, Capcom CPS1.5 and CPS2 are pretty much the only stereo cores-everything else is mono.
Likewise, all JAMMA arcade cabs are designed to support mono sound through the harness with an amplifier on the game board itself. Only a few JAMMA cabs (Astro City is one of them) also supported stereo audio amplified via a dedicated amp inside the cab. Original game boards would send both amplified mono audio over JAMMA and line-level stereo through RCA ports simultaneously. Cabs with a stereo amp typically have a switch to flip the speaker output between dual mono board-amp-driven audio and stereo cab-amp-driven audio.
MiSTercade acts the same as an original stereo JAMMA board - it outputs amplified mono audio through the JAMMA harness and line-level dual mono or stereo audio (depending on the core) through RCA ports simultaneously.
Hope that answers your question!
@@ShootTheCore thanks so much. I find it so odd that stereo wasn't a primary consideration at the time, but I appreciate that earlier it may have been in the transition period. Or arcades were just too loud to care.
As far as I'm aware, the OG Astro City is mono by default. New Astro City is stereo.
But with this setup, it sounds like I could get the OG AC, rip out the crappy speakers, install a small 2.1 system, and just run the audio via the breakout on the Mister board.
Question.. I have a modded Arcade1up cab.. I have it running an RP4 and PC, via hdmi.. is it possible I can setup the mistercade and run it via hdmi? as I do not have the old school cab to utilize the jamma connector.. (I would assume since it has the DE10-nano kit attached, that would be possible?)
Yep, you should be able to install a MiSTer in your Arcade1Up cab without a MiSTercade. Use HDMI for the video, plug the controls into a micro-USB hub, and power it with the AC adapter that comes with the DE-10 Nano.
@@ShootTheCore I figured that was the way to go. I actually have a mister fpga already.. i had thought i needed a separate mistercade for arcade use..now I have to return the mistercade and sdram I bought from misteraddons lol..
@@kingsmm9762 you should keep the SDRAM-most of the cores require it to work.
@@ShootTheCore I already have a premade fully loaded mister fpga digital version that has an sdram i bought from misteraddons.. the mistake i made was buying the mistercade thinking i could use it in my other modded arcade1up cab (it has an rpi4).. however the mistercade needs a jamma connection and has to be with an old school cab like in your vid. i made a novice mistake.. for those reasons I will be asking for a refund/return once i receive the mistercade/sd ram in the mail
Are there any mistercade for jvs?
Not yet, but several developers are working on JVS MiSTer hats.
@@ShootTheCore I saw one shop on ali promtinig a mister fpga with jvs but for the love of god I can not find this shop again and googling does not help at all. Anyway thank your for your response.
Hello. In 2023, what should I buy for FPGA arcade emulatoion????
MiSTer is still your best option currently for FPGA arcade emulation.
sold out that sucks have you got gerbers so we can make it
Hey @ShootTheCore Do you know if the mistercade’s hd15 port is safe to use with a consumer CRT?
this accepts a coin in the machine like an actual arcade machine?
Yes, the Coin trigger on the mechanism shows up in MiSTer as a button, so you can bind a Coin insert to any input the game supports - including the Coin input for the console cores. You could insert a coin on a console core to pause the game for example. :-)
The manual has allot to be desired.
Can you say "mono" again?
mono
@@ShootTheCore Yup. You still pronounce it incorrectly.