God Isn't Angry: Exposing the Lies of a Fear-Based Gospel | Gil Hodges Podcast with Brad Jersak
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Ever wondered how a shift in understanding God’s love can transform your life? Join Gil Hodges and Brad Jersak in this riveting episode as they explore profound spiritual insights and personal journeys. Discover how moving from fear-based religion to embracing a more Christlike God can change everything. 🔥💬 "If God is love, what do you do with these texts where He looks like a genocidal maniac?" - Brad Jersak. Tune in for transformative wisdom and spiritual breakthroughs!
Summary:
In this captivating episode, Gil Hodges and Brad Jersak dive deep into the transformative journey from a fundamentalist upbringing to embracing a Christlike understanding of God. Brad shares his dramatic shift from a fear-based gospel to discovering the nonviolent, all-encompassing love of God through Eastern Orthodox teachings. Gil and Brad discuss how this new perspective not only reshapes their theology but also impacts their personal and communal lives.
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Highlights from this show:
1. Journey from Fundamentalism:
- Brad recounts his upbringing in a fundamentalist Baptist home and the shift to embracing a Christlike view of God through Mennonite teachings and Eastern Orthodox practices.
- "The cross is a revelation that God is self-giving, radically forgiving, co-suffering love." - Brad Jersak.
2. Transformative Insights:
- The difference between seeing God as a punishing judge versus a great physician who heals our deepest wounds.
- "God is love, period. If we could wipe out all ancient scriptures and wake up with just that, it would be a wonderful world." - Gil Hodges.
3. Practical Theology:
- Brad emphasizes the importance of reading the Bible through the lens of Jesus' teachings, focusing on the life-giving aspects rather than punitive interpretations.
- "Jesus' way is about grace and letting go, participating in God's already-there grace." - Brad Jersak.
4. Impact on Community:
- Both Gil and Brad highlight the need for genuine, respectful dialogue in spiritual communities, transcending ideological divides.
- "Seeing Christ in others and calling them to follow Jesus, even those who don’t identify as Christians, is crucial." - Brad Jersak.
5. Personal Transformation:
- Gil shares his journey of moving from depression and anger to a deeper trust and intimacy with God through meditation and letting go of old paradigms.
- "God's love is infinite. There's nothing we can do to make Him love us more or less." - Gil Hodges.
6. Future Vision:
- The hope for a future where the understanding of God's love continues to expand and transform lives, breaking down fear and building up grace.
- "Perfect love drives out fear. As long as you have fear, you’ve not been perfected in love." - Brad Jersak.
Don't miss this conversation that promises to challenge your beliefs and inspire a more profound understanding of God's love!
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More about Bradley...
Bradley Jersak is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, BC. He currently serves as the Principal of St. Stephen’s University (SSU.ca) in New Brunswick, where he continues as the Director and faculty member of SSU’s School of Theology & Culture. He also teaches peace studies courses with JFI.SSU.ca and is a regular speaker with the Open Table Conference crew.
He writes regularly for the Clarion Journal and CWR magazine.
Links:
Bradley's books: www.goodreads....
Saint Stephen's University: ssu.ca
Stephen's University is a graduate studies university with an emphasis on theology, peace, and reconciliation.
Bradley's Website: www.bradjersak.com
God is Love, Period….! Yes, Yes, if every church here in our western America would preach that this Sunday it would change our whole country….
Amen!
The all sufficiency of Christ and what He accomplished on the cross is the fullness of all sufficiency! All will be saved! Every knee will bow, and every tongue will confess Jesus Christ as LORD to the glory of God Almighty, ...with great joy and gladness! All is all! Ultimate reconciliation is beginning to be understood like never before! Blessings from Western Canada ❤!
Amen.
Yes and amen. "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive." KJV
I totally agree with you. I was led to these men (together with Brian Zahnd and Chris E W Green) after watching Brad present the Gospel in Chairs about 4 years ago.
I have to a Christian for about 50 years and knew from 13 that Jesus was the only one to follow but the last 4 years have opened my understanding to the love of the Father and that the Gospel really is Good News for All people. Grace and Peace.
So good.
Jesus died and walked with many in His time when they needed them. And He shows up now...yes even today people have seen and encountered Him. I myself have. He's a very happy guy.😊
That’s amazing. I love that you used the word “happy”. Why is he happy? How would you describe your encounter with him? Thanks!
I was in a very fearful state. Lost...cold...I was afraid. He showed up. Smiling and happy. Physically.
I tell you He is happy...not at all worried about a thing.
Lord do for this one what you did for me.
Let her know the happy gospel.❤🎉
Thank you.
@@AmyStezin wow! thanks for sharing!
This is so good Gil! A couple of years ago Father said to me, you don't have to but I would love it if you would trust me. lol I am just now realizing that God is good and has always been good. Still on the journey but having a level of freedom is awesome!
So good!!
I was so glad to see that you are talking to Paul.Young and baxter kruger and now brad jersak. God led me to these men several years ago and I just love Em.And I love what they have to say
Yes.
I am just realising that God is good, thank you Jesus!.
thank you Gil !
It is beautiful and freeing!! ❤️🙏
Yes...Papa God is truly LOVE. No end times. Revelation was about 70 ad. The fall and desruction of Jerusalem.
Praying for healing
I've been hearing a lot of teachings about God not being angry, teachings rejecting penal substitutionary atonement, etc. That's all well and good, but many of us are living day-to-day lives that feel separated from God. We aren't experiencing the promises that seem to be in the Bible. Things like physical healing, great health, financial provision, joy and peace, fellowship with Holy Spirit, etc.
I'd like to hear some teachings on how to experience those subjectively.
A lot of what we experience actually comes from what we believe. If our foundational beliefs are not in line with a true all-powerful loving God then our experience may not reflect who we truly is. I had to adjust my thinking dramatically. A lot of it has to do with choice. What are you choosing to look at. I had to shift my value system as well as what I chose to dwell on. I have a lot of teachings on this in my choice community on Facebook
@@GilHodgesPodcast Thank you for the fast and thoughtful reply. I've had such difficulty changing the way I think about God because I'm not subjectively experiencing the apparent love that He has for me.
I don't feel it's my responsibility to change the way I think about God. I didn't ask to be born, I didn't ask for this world or system to be the way it is, I didn't ask for certain experiences to happen to me, etc. I've trusted God and He didn't pull through. I've begged for His help and He didn't answer my prayers.
I don't see why God can't just make Himself known to me, and communicate with me in a way I can easily discern. I feel like I have to do all the work to establish a relationship with God and to change the way I perceive Him.
I don't believe it's a child's job to establish a relationship with his father. It's the other way around! But Christianity puts all the responsibility onto us because God can't have any faults. But maybe God isn't as loving as we're told He is 🤷🏽♂️
@@WheelEstate Ah! I feel for you. I went through a season years ago where I decided I'd rather believe there is no God than to believe there is a God that hates me as much as I believed He did.
It was through that experience and and lesson and many more that I teach on now how to see God from an entirely different perspective. One that I believe is correct but not taught because we get so caught up in our circumstances that we don't see the bigger picture. Once I began to shift, my entire life shifted. I spent 40 years in chronic depression. I've been completely free now for over 8 years.
The way we view life makes all the difference in the universe.
@@GilHodgesPodcast Thank you for your kindness and understanding. What you just wrote really resonates with me and my experience. I'm going to check out your content!
I encourage you, if you'd like, come join us on my FB. Conversations are a little easier there.
facebook.com/share/i4npXbHg8cwXXrNS/?mibextid=qi2Omg
"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness" ( Romans 1:18 )
@@laulavakivi4618 The question is, How do you interpret this, and is it really reflecting the truth of the original language. So many things to consider before we go condemning others.
Also like to add Peter Hiett to that list. He is a wonderful preacher/teacher of the Gospel.
Got any contact info?
@@GilHodgesPodcastmine or Peter Hiett.
@@stephengorman1025 For Peter.
God Loves ❤ me 😊 I Love 💕 Him
Yep!
"God is a just judge, and God is angry with the wicked every day." ( Psalm 7:11 )
@@laulavakivi4618 Again...? Is this the heart of God or the emotions of a man? The revelation of the Father in Christ would indicate these are the heart pains of a man sharing his grief and anger.
Old covenant. Get a new covenant revelation...it will set you free.
@@AmyStezin “For I am the Lord, I do not change" ( Malachi 3:6 )
@@laulavakivi4618 And He has been Love From the very beginning. Why do you want Him to be vengeful??
@@laulavakivi4618 never told u He changes. He is LOV E...The very essence of eternal bliss. Taste and see that He Is Good!!!@
"The Lord is in His holy temple,
The Lord’s throne is in heaven;
His eyes behold,
His eyelids test the sons of men.
The Lord tests the righteous,
but the wicked and the one who loves violence His soul hates.
Upon the wicked He will rain coals;
Fire and brimstone and a burning wind
shall be the portion of their cup." ( Psalm 11:4-6 )
@@laulavakivi4618 Your taking a psalm... A song written from the heart of of someone sharing their feelings and emotions.
"God is jealous, and the Lord revengeth; the Lord revengeth, and is furious; the Lord will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies." ( Nahum 1:2 )
@@laulavakivi4618 old covenant. Jesus is the NEW covenant. They did not have relationship with Papa God...He is a unconditionally loving Father who adores His children no matter what they have done. BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH HE WAS CRUCIFIED...
@@AmyStezin "Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness-indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For there is no partiality with God." ( Romans 2:4-11 )
@@AmyStezin"old covenant. Jesus is the NEW covenant."
"For I am the Lord, I do not change" ( Malachi 3:6 )
Why must we wait to die to allow the fire of love to transform us? Jesus is the access door not death. Why aren't we believing to be immortal?
We shouldn't but we do
Because the church has preached a gospel
Of, first you do then God does message.
It told us we're not really transformed until we get to heaven.
Which causes us to live out our entire life,
in fear and trembling, never knowing for certain
that we've made it, because we never ever
see ourselves as, “good enough.”
Jesus at His death and resurrection established the new covenant.
The old covenant established with Moses required
death for the transgressors.
The new covenant established with "not my people," unbelievers,
requires them to live forever.
Under Adam All die, Even so in Christ ALL shall be made alive. 1 Cor15:2
Do for others what you want them to do for you.
See all as family and as bonified members of the Kingdom of God.
Proclaim what Jesus has done, not what they need to do.
Fire earth water air 😢
Scripture is necessary to define love. Else, we merely import our human failings into the concept.
“Oh yeah, there will be fire but it’s the fire of love burning up all of your attachments.” Spoken like a good Buddhist I love it.❤❤❤
"For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, nor shall evil dwell with You. The boastful shall not stand in Your sight; You hate all workers of iniquity." ( Psalm 5:4-5 )
@@laulavakivi4618 Testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy
Where are the people who believe that
"Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness-indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For there is no partiality with God." ( Romans 2:4-11 )
Great talk, I think Jesus was critical of the Torah… it wasn’t perfect in his sight. I think he would be similarly critical of some of Paul’s writings. I see the fear and evil in the bible as a learning… for sifting through the wheat vs the weeds.
37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.
40 “As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Whoever has ears, let them hear.
We were already forgiven before the foundation of the earth.
That is correct! Amen!
Poor Jesus died for nothing.
Ooops Him
Sir I am in small debt, I need India money 5 crores, pray for me, Jesus Now Bless Me
No wonder
Not sure what to do with those words in john 3:36 that say "and God will be angry with them forever"
is this a mistranslation? or im reading it wrong?
The word "forever" is definitely a mistranslation. It's possible the word "anger" is, too.
@@doriesse824 yeah you could be right about those two words
Ignore ALL the countless passages in tthoughout the entire Bible, both OT & NT explicitly stating or actively revealing the God of the Bible to be not only angry and jealous and vengeful--but a genocidal socipathic drama queen.
When you know, you know. When you don’t, you just don’t get it.
@@candyc.3163 RIGHT?! All it takes is actual;;y reading the entire Bible.
I used to think and say the same thing. Until I actually looked at it through the lens of love. Then I realized there are tons more verses leaning toward what has been shared here that God is love versus the God that is angry. Many of those verses are flat out mistranslated. Translated by people who had a view of God that was one of anger. I challenge you to go back through with the lens of love. God is love. Could violates that it's not God.
@@GilHodgesPodcast I have the view that the bible is an immoral thug, teh opposite of love, although he claims to be--much like a narcissist. I have that view because I have read the entire bible from Genesis to Revelation many times, and because I know my intellect and logic and deduction work well--I graduated magns cum laude with a Literature degree--so i know my reading comprehension and powers of reason are sound. But I am definitely pleased when people like you use their moral compass, brain, and heart to toss so much, so many verses, chapters and passages that absolutely show god to be cruel, vindictive, murderous, and plain evil. I much prefer people's constructed version of the Bible. Your creation of god is far more kind and loving, but it is not an accurate reflection of the texts.