Dudley cooper would have been interesting "the worst adventure i had was recovering lobsters from davros's bum - Dudley was in the UK know as a satirical comedian and a good Jazz Pianist
A lot of this was covered in The Seven Year Hitch documentary that looked at the production of the TV Movie and I love Philip Segal’s passion to get this movie made no matter what even if they had tones of problems behind the scenes
I hate how badly they sabotaged this. Paul McGann deserved a full run as the Doctor, not just one TV movie and a ridiculously short prelude to the 50th anniversary special
He should have be the War Doctor, no disrespect to John Hurt...but the gymnastics they had to do to the story just so they could introduce Hurt as a Doctor was dumb, dumber than anything in the 96 movie. No, they should've just used McGann and it would've been much better.
For anyone curious of the Dr who books, check out PopArena here on UA-cam, he runs a show like SF Debris, but mostly focused on books, and he's been doing the Virgin New Adventures in order.
I have gotten so much Doctor Who knowledge from you. The lore is so sprawling that if is nice to have a way to get some background before diving in. Thanks for all you do!
I was just going through your Doctor Who reviews and I thought it was odd you had reviews up for every doctor from 1 to 11 but no review of the TV movie. Lo and behold today you put it up.
Fox is notorious for terrible advertising. Their marketing for Firefly did not generate any interest for me. Once I finally saw it though, it became one of my favorite shows.
Sylvester McCoy was my Doctor growing up and the cancellation of the series was a shame but having this be the follow up was almost worse. New Who was a genuine surprise because I thought this had killed it off for good (as far as TV goes).
If the ratings are poor, than you cannot say it was because the movie was also poor. It means no one watched it - or few did - when it first aired. That has to do with advertising, not on the quality of the show. Only if people watched it and the ratings dropped while they were watching - that would mean they turned it off while watching. I was one who watched it when it first aired. I was VERY disappointed that Sylvester McCoy had one line of dialogue. I thought the pacing was too slow. Did not like that the Doctor was now half human on his mother's side. I thought they were trying to make him be like Spock, who is also half human on his mother's side. I did not like the campiness of the Master or the gerbil-like voices of the Daleks. I did like Paul McGann and wished he had another chance. Big Finish gave him that chance.
Monkof Magnesia Yet people seem to think that ratings or box office is what matters (see: people using Doctor Who’s declining ratings as proof that Series 11 is terrible or people wanting to boycott Star Wars Episode IX to send a message to Disney without thinking that perhaps they’ll get a different message entirely).
In Detroit, which is a big Scifi City (Remember at the time Detroit was the capital of the Auto Industry, and has a well above average number of engineers) The first half of the movie was broadcasted against Babylon 5, and it was episode "War Without End (Part 1)", AKA the return of Jeffery Sinclair. I was taping Babylon 5, so I asked a friend to tap Doctor Who for me. They did, but they did not like it so they taped over it before I got to see it. It was nearly 10 years before I got to see their first half of the Doctor Who movie.
Laughing at how practically every BTS look of the movies you do always seem to have connections to other stuff youve done or alluded to. Like in this one, you mention Quatermass Experiment, Star Trek, Hitchhikers, Superman, Roger Corman’s F4, HBO’s Spawn, Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters, the Terminator, and Disney.
I remember being really excited for the TV movie - Finally! Doctor Who with the budget and promotion it deserved! Then it went out in the UK, and... it was ok. It looked good. The TARDIS set was amazing. Paul McGann and Sylvester McCoy were great. Roberts was chewing through the scenery (but then, so did Anthony Ainley). Daphne Ashbrook was good, though in a very different mould from previous co-stars. But it didn't feel quite right. As an Anglo-American production, it skewed heavily to the American. Which, to be fair, is what you would expect. They were putting up the money, after all. Certainly, it was very different from anything we'd had before. A couple of years after, I read Jean-Marc L'officer's "The Nth Doctor" from Virgin Publishing, which chronicled the various attempts to bring Doctor Who back in some form, after 1989. The Doctor searching for his lost father, Borusa being part of the TARDIS, the attempts to get Nimoy on board the Green Light movie, etc etc. Then, there were later revelations form other sources such as DWM. with Nelvana's proposed animated series, and from Phillip Segal's highly informative Doctor Who - The Regeneration, about his work in bringing the show back. Safe to say, if people consider the existing TV movie as bad, they have no idea how much we dodged a bullet with some of the near-misses.
It took me many years too accept McGann as an incarnation of the Doctor, because for me, what killed it, was in the movie he was half human, until he was brought back to do the minisode and then i was sold. McGann was an excellent Doctor and it was a shame he didn't have at least one season when the series was rebooted.
There was a special where all the doctors from the 3rd - 7th and the 4th would have the main role but the other doctors actors didn't like the fact they had barely any screen time so it was scrapped and later turned into a big finish.
Alan Yentaub said and I quote about the film to the makers of the documentary More than 30 years in the TARDIS "You might think that, but I couldn't possibly comment. You know how the Americans are like, and you know how the BBC are like." This was of course in response to being asked about the involvement of Spielburg in The Enemy Within.
The Cushing films were just remodellings of the first series stories in an attempt by Dalek creator Terry Nation to cash in on his invention outside of the show proper. But he couldn't use the proper Doctor character which he didnt own hence why Cushing plays a character actually called Dr Who and not The Doctor and why he is just human and not alien. Unlike this TV film it is not canon since it's a separate character and world.
And it wasn't the only time - Douglas Adams recycled the script for Shada to create the fundamentals of Dirk Gently, which is why the Professor is so very obviously a Time Lord and is why Dirk himself is so very obviously a non-canonical version of the Doctor (in the first of the duology, at least).
Hmmm, what if the snake creature the Master takes over Bruce with is actually the Multiform from the Eleventh Hour? Good way for the Master to meet 11.
I always thought that if there ever was an American Doctor that Donald Sutherland or perhaps Christopher Walken would be ideal. They have unique characteristics that make them seem alien.
The one thing I don't understand, and have never gotten an adequate explanation for is the scene when the the "shrouded" Doctor wanders around and screams "Who Am I?!" What is up with that section of the hospital? Its completely trashed. It looks like a hurricane hit it. It feels like there was a scene to explain that that was ultimately cut from the final version.
I believe from what I read that it was a section of the hospital closed for remodeling. Possibly Earthquake damage...this is San Francisco, after all. But yeah, it's not explained well, if at all.
I happened to be walking through the mess deck on the Fitch, saw it starting, had never heard of it, watched the whole thing and thought it was pretty good.
I just don't think America was ready for the show at that stage, most mainstream audiences wouldn't have had a clue what it was and dismissed it as some weird forgettable B grade sci fi compared to all those other well established local American productions, also the fact they were continuing the canon from the cancelled old show (which the audiences wouldnt have known either) probably didn't help as if you didn't know who McCoy was and why he was transforming into McGann then you'd be lost on that level too. The new TV show succeeded because Moffat made it high profile and marketed it in the states successfully after it had already been running well for 5 seasons in the UK so all anyone had to do was back watch the new show which was more readily available thanks to internet than the old show catalogue was in 1996 when such services didn't exist and there was 30 years of back story you needed to know as opposed to just 5 years worth.
Science fiction on one of the big US networks was still a huge gamble in the 90s. There were a lot of successful first-run syndication shows or series on cable channels in that decade, but those had smaller budgets and thus less pressure from advertisers. But on the Big Four, SF hits like the X-Files and Quantum Leap had been the exception since the early 80s. People give FOX heat for cancelling shows, but for 20 years after its launch in 1986, FOX aired far more genre shows in the one-hour drama format than the other three networks combined, and NBC is really the only other one that even tried to during that time. But as Joss Whedon learned, a show with 5 million viewers can equal a big hit on a cable channel like the WB, but an abject failure on a network like FOX. A lot of FOX's genre shows failed to find an audience and didn't last more than a season. Not until the critical success of BSG and then the ratings successes of Heroes and Lost in the mid-00s did you see the networks (and HBO and Netflix) really get behind SF/fantasy and genre fare.
MJ Red No, the fans are destroying it with their hate and unbridled rage. Don’t you know when to leave well enough alone? Doctor Who has ALWAYS been “SJW”.
He's not destroying it I do get tired of these sensationalist claims, you cant "destroy" Dr Who its been going 60 plus years now and it will go on forever as long as there is a market for it, there may be hiatuses but it will never be removed permanently. Everytime a new actor or show runner comes along people like you are screaming about how the show is over and every time it carries on just the same doing what it's always done so stop being dramatic.
Bezza Derbane What is it with fans and betraying the franchises they love? This seems to have started with Ghostbusters 2016 and is now affecting Star Wars, Star Trek, Doctor Who and She-Ra. Some even go so far as to say that the fans own the movie franchises since they are the ones who support it financially via box office sales.
#DoctorWho season11 #Xmas2018 idea: (Black screen) An automated distress signal is picked up by the Tardis. (Fade-in) monitor displays: #25DEC2018 automated voice announce: "#Timelord Reputation at risk - Yours! Fix your future!" Camera pans up to see Paul McGann!
Haven’t even seen the movie. I’ve seen like the first 15 minutes,clips of the eighth doctor and the night of the doctor special mini episode for the 50th but that’s all I’ve seen of eight. Movie was way to American for me.
It was a poor movie, it made so many mistakes, badly executed or poorly written.... or so many bad things the us studios wanted to do, with a over 30year old franchise :( What saved the movie (to fans) was Paul McGann! He is fantastic, He is the Doctor. Listening to his Big Finish Audios is amazing. In my opinion he is 2nd after Tom Baker While Doctor Who got a new Season in 2005, and Paul McGann doing countless audios at the Time (and still today ) Fans had to wait until 2013. 17years!!! to see the 8th Doctor back on TV, and hell it felt awesome. Spoilers!! Its one of the epic moments in TV history. Young woman, crashing her spaceship, sreaming for help, and you expected to see Matt Smith, the Doctor in 2013. But what we got was so much cooler. There was this voice...."Im the Doctor, but probably not the one you expected!" It was jumping up and down infront of the TV "yes, yes, yes...17years...he is back!!!" And there was no doubt, he still is the Doctor. It was a 7 Minutes Episode but it has been the most important one in Who history. By letting the 8th Doctor, remember and speak out the names of his audio companions, the BBC canonised all the Big Finish audio Storys and made McGann the Doctor with the most adventures so far. Sry for the long text...
Imagine if Doctor Who were made in america from then on. We’d fill it with big name american actors, action, guns, explosions, and worst of all: FRENCH FRIES. ‘Murica!
@@Ozzy_2014 They try to be unbiased but are undermined by the fact that not everything is a debat? CNN isn't the best place to get news, NPR is, but compared to Fox? You are quite literally better off not watching the news then watching Fox. Like you will have a better understanding of what's going on in the world if you just don't watch Fox news.
You have to admit, a Doctor Who movie starring Alan Rickman and directed by Leonard Nimoy would have been awesome to see.
@Tesla-Effect Or, a gifted actor playing an alien, in Rickman's case.
"By Grabthar's Hammer, what a savings."
Yeah, it is a shame that it fell though.
TonesTheGeek that would be weird.
Dudley cooper would have been interesting "the worst adventure i had was recovering lobsters from davros's bum - Dudley was in the UK know as a satirical comedian and a good Jazz Pianist
@@mauricewalshe8234 I'm guessing you mean Dudley Moore, I think your brain mixed Peter Cook his comedy partner in to create that Cooper surname
Looking back, Paul McGann & Christopher Eccleston really represent the revival of this classic show.
Yup.
A lot of this was covered in The Seven Year Hitch documentary that looked at the production of the TV Movie and I love Philip Segal’s passion to get this movie made no matter what even if they had tones of problems behind the scenes
I hate how badly they sabotaged this. Paul McGann deserved a full run as the Doctor, not just one TV movie and a ridiculously short prelude to the 50th anniversary special
He should have be the War Doctor, no disrespect to John Hurt...but the gymnastics they had to do to the story just so they could introduce Hurt as a Doctor was dumb, dumber than anything in the 96 movie. No, they should've just used McGann and it would've been much better.
Biggggg. Big big big Finish.
@@Keihryon he was offered the role by Steven Moffat but turned it down for the 50th sadly
This guys sounding like the Kamen Rider ZX equivilant to doctor who. Recognized in the main canon, but everybody kinda forgets he’s even there
For anyone curious of the Dr who books, check out PopArena here on UA-cam, he runs a show like SF Debris, but mostly focused on books, and he's been doing the Virgin New Adventures in order.
Thanks man! I already love the books but I still love that kind of content
I actually came to suggest the same thing. PopArena does good work.
I have gotten so much Doctor Who knowledge from you. The lore is so sprawling that if is nice to have a way to get some background before diving in. Thanks for all you do!
I was just going through your Doctor Who reviews and I thought it was odd you had reviews up for every doctor from 1 to 11 but no review of the TV movie. Lo and behold today you put it up.
Fox should have advertised this during Fox Kids or something. I had never heard of this until I was an adult.
Fox is notorious for terrible advertising. Their marketing for Firefly did not generate any interest for me. Once I finally saw it though, it became one of my favorite shows.
Alan fucking Rickman! We need access to the parallel dimension where such a thing happened!
Sylvester McCoy was my Doctor growing up and the cancellation of the series was a shame but having this be the follow up was almost worse. New Who was a genuine surprise because I thought this had killed it off for good (as far as TV goes).
If the ratings are poor, than you cannot say it was because the movie was also poor. It means no one watched it - or few did - when it first aired. That has to do with advertising, not on the quality of the show. Only if people watched it and the ratings dropped while they were watching - that would mean they turned it off while watching. I was one who watched it when it first aired. I was VERY disappointed that Sylvester McCoy had one line of dialogue. I thought the pacing was too slow. Did not like that the Doctor was now half human on his mother's side. I thought they were trying to make him be like Spock, who is also half human on his mother's side. I did not like the campiness of the Master or the gerbil-like voices of the Daleks. I did like Paul McGann and wished he had another chance. Big Finish gave him that chance.
Monkof Magnesia Yet people seem to think that ratings or box office is what matters (see: people using Doctor Who’s declining ratings as proof that Series 11 is terrible or people wanting to boycott Star Wars Episode IX to send a message to Disney without thinking that perhaps they’ll get a different message entirely).
In Detroit, which is a big Scifi City (Remember at the time Detroit was the capital of the Auto Industry, and has a well above average number of engineers) The first half of the movie was broadcasted against Babylon 5, and it was episode "War Without End (Part 1)", AKA the return of Jeffery Sinclair. I was taping Babylon 5, so I asked a friend to tap Doctor Who for me. They did, but they did not like it so they taped over it before I got to see it. It was nearly 10 years before I got to see their first half of the Doctor Who movie.
Re: the actual movie review, having the movie be a two doctor story would have been genius
Laughing at how practically every BTS look of the movies you do always seem to have connections to other stuff youve done or alluded to. Like in this one, you mention Quatermass Experiment, Star Trek, Hitchhikers, Superman, Roger Corman’s F4, HBO’s Spawn, Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters, the Terminator, and Disney.
I remember being really excited for the TV movie - Finally! Doctor Who with the budget and promotion it deserved! Then it went out in the UK, and... it was ok. It looked good. The TARDIS set was amazing. Paul McGann and Sylvester McCoy were great. Roberts was chewing through the scenery (but then, so did Anthony Ainley). Daphne Ashbrook was good, though in a very different mould from previous co-stars. But it didn't feel quite right. As an Anglo-American production, it skewed heavily to the American. Which, to be fair, is what you would expect. They were putting up the money, after all. Certainly, it was very different from anything we'd had before.
A couple of years after, I read Jean-Marc L'officer's "The Nth Doctor" from Virgin Publishing, which chronicled the various attempts to bring Doctor Who back in some form, after 1989. The Doctor searching for his lost father, Borusa being part of the TARDIS, the attempts to get Nimoy on board the Green Light movie, etc etc. Then, there were later revelations form other sources such as DWM. with Nelvana's proposed animated series, and from Phillip Segal's highly informative Doctor Who - The Regeneration, about his work in bringing the show back.
Safe to say, if people consider the existing TV movie as bad, they have no idea how much we dodged a bullet with some of the near-misses.
"Let's look at the Doctor Who TV Movie."
**video immediately ends**
The review is in the description.
I thought it was going to show a clip at the end 😁 when he said lets take a look at the movie 😋
It took me many years too accept McGann as an incarnation of the Doctor, because for me, what killed it, was in the movie he was half human, until he was brought back to do the minisode and then i was sold. McGann was an excellent Doctor and it was a shame he didn't have at least one season when the series was rebooted.
This movie (on video - not the original broadcast) was the first Dr. Who I ever saw.
There was a special where all the doctors from the 3rd - 7th and the 4th would have the main role but the other doctors actors didn't like the fact they had barely any screen time so it was scrapped and later turned into a big finish.
Would you ever review the 1966 movie, or its sequel?
Alan Yentaub said and I quote about the film to the makers of the documentary More than 30 years in the TARDIS "You might think that, but I couldn't possibly comment. You know how the Americans are like, and you know how the BBC are like." This was of course in response to being asked about the involvement of Spielburg in The Enemy Within.
Is the Movie review still available anywhere? I went to the link in video but the Daily Motion video had file not found listed on it.
I'll be taking care of that early next month, sorry for the inconvenience.
Ok I liked the movie. Was it spectacular? No. Was it ok? Yes it was. Was it Dr. Who? Yes. Was it good Who? Yes. Was it great Who? No! Darn shame.
ozzymandistwenty14 exactly
@@sadako24 Not to mention the Brit audience HATED that the Yanks were making it.
I recently saw the Peter Cushing Doctor films, they were lame, but I did like the 2nd one a bit better than the 1st.
The Cushing films were just remodellings of the first series stories in an attempt by Dalek creator Terry Nation to cash in on his invention outside of the show proper. But he couldn't use the proper Doctor character which he didnt own hence why Cushing plays a character actually called Dr Who and not The Doctor and why he is just human and not alien. Unlike this TV film it is not canon since it's a separate character and world.
And it wasn't the only time - Douglas Adams recycled the script for Shada to create the fundamentals of Dirk Gently, which is why the Professor is so very obviously a Time Lord and is why Dirk himself is so very obviously a non-canonical version of the Doctor (in the first of the duology, at least).
People from America why you got doctor who on the us versions but that was on the UK not us versions please
I remember when the beeb started broadcasting Star Trek.
Hmmm, what if the snake creature the Master takes over Bruce with is actually the Multiform from the Eleventh Hour? Good way for the Master to meet 11.
The Vimeo link on your website is down.
I like the TV Movie, but it certainly doesn’t feel like Doctor Who.
I always thought that if there ever was an American Doctor that Donald Sutherland or perhaps Christopher Walken would be ideal. They have unique characteristics that make them seem alien.
3:10 I'm assuming that particular photo is no coincidence, Chuck?
The one thing I don't understand, and have never gotten an adequate explanation for is the scene when the the "shrouded" Doctor wanders around and screams "Who Am I?!" What is up with that section of the hospital? Its completely trashed. It looks like a hurricane hit it. It feels like there was a scene to explain that that was ultimately cut from the final version.
I believe from what I read that it was a section of the hospital closed for remodeling. Possibly Earthquake damage...this is San Francisco, after all. But yeah, it's not explained well, if at all.
I loved Seaquest DSV. It sucks nobody remembers that show
I remember it! 🙋
I'd like to have seen Donald Sutherland as Dr Who - Kelly's Heroes style.
I wish Bruce Campbell was in this movie not in a big role but a small role would be great
King Peppy I did say a small role but you got to hail to the king
Bruce would just be awesome in Doctor Who in general.
Paul McGann is the best doctor
17:08 Not thanks to me it wasn't. Went out of my way to watch it!
I happened to be walking through the mess deck on the Fitch, saw it starting, had never heard of it, watched the whole thing and thought it was pretty good.
In my opinion Paul McGann is the best thing about the movie.
I just don't think America was ready for the show at that stage, most mainstream audiences wouldn't have had a clue what it was and dismissed it as some weird forgettable B grade sci fi compared to all those other well established local American productions, also the fact they were continuing the canon from the cancelled old show (which the audiences wouldnt have known either) probably didn't help as if you didn't know who McCoy was and why he was transforming into McGann then you'd be lost on that level too. The new TV show succeeded because Moffat made it high profile and marketed it in the states successfully after it had already been running well for 5 seasons in the UK so all anyone had to do was back watch the new show which was more readily available thanks to internet than the old show catalogue was in 1996 when such services didn't exist and there was 30 years of back story you needed to know as opposed to just 5 years worth.
Science fiction on one of the big US networks was still a huge gamble in the 90s. There were a lot of successful first-run syndication shows or series on cable channels in that decade, but those had smaller budgets and thus less pressure from advertisers. But on the Big Four, SF hits like the X-Files and Quantum Leap had been the exception since the early 80s. People give FOX heat for cancelling shows, but for 20 years after its launch in 1986, FOX aired far more genre shows in the one-hour drama format than the other three networks combined, and NBC is really the only other one that even tried to during that time. But as Joss Whedon learned, a show with 5 million viewers can equal a big hit on a cable channel like the WB, but an abject failure on a network like FOX. A lot of FOX's genre shows failed to find an audience and didn't last more than a season. Not until the critical success of BSG and then the ratings successes of Heroes and Lost in the mid-00s did you see the networks (and HBO and Netflix) really get behind SF/fantasy and genre fare.
Julia Roberts has a brother who is an actor and played the master?
Yup.
Plus he can act unlike his sister.
They should have another show with the Daleks.
3:13 And people erroneously think that Chris Chibnail is destroying Doctor Who now.
11:38 And then later in his career, he directed Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and will be directing Indy 5.
Yes, except instead of destroying it with something actually tangible he's destroying it with his "SJW AGENDA RREEEEE"
MJ Red No, the fans are destroying it with their hate and unbridled rage. Don’t you know when to leave well enough alone? Doctor Who has ALWAYS been “SJW”.
He's not destroying it I do get tired of these sensationalist claims, you cant "destroy" Dr Who its been going 60 plus years now and it will go on forever as long as there is a market for it, there may be hiatuses but it will never be removed permanently. Everytime a new actor or show runner comes along people like you are screaming about how the show is over and every time it carries on just the same doing what it's always done so stop being dramatic.
Bezza Derbane What is it with fans and betraying the franchises they love? This seems to have started with Ghostbusters 2016 and is now affecting Star Wars, Star Trek, Doctor Who and She-Ra.
Some even go so far as to say that the fans own the movie franchises since they are the ones who support it financially via box office sales.
#DoctorWho season11 #Xmas2018 idea:
(Black screen) An automated distress signal is picked up by the Tardis.
(Fade-in) monitor displays: #25DEC2018 automated voice announce:
"#Timelord Reputation at risk - Yours! Fix your future!"
Camera pans up to see Paul McGann!
It's really strange how bad this is, because we've had really decent american collaborations since in Doctor Who.
tv one off more than a film😣
Haven’t even seen the movie. I’ve seen like the first 15 minutes,clips of the eighth doctor and the night of the doctor special mini episode for the 50th but that’s all I’ve seen of eight. Movie was way to American for me.
It was a poor movie, it made so many mistakes, badly executed or poorly written.... or so many bad things the us studios wanted to do, with a over 30year old franchise :(
What saved the movie (to fans) was Paul McGann! He is fantastic, He is the Doctor. Listening to his Big Finish Audios is amazing. In my opinion he is 2nd after Tom Baker
While Doctor Who got a new Season in 2005, and Paul McGann doing countless audios at the Time (and still today ) Fans had to wait until 2013. 17years!!! to see the 8th Doctor back on TV, and hell it felt awesome.
Spoilers!!
Its one of the epic moments in TV history.
Young woman, crashing her spaceship, sreaming for help, and you expected to see Matt Smith, the Doctor in 2013. But what we got was so much cooler.
There was this voice...."Im the Doctor, but probably not the one you expected!"
It was jumping up and down infront of the TV "yes, yes, yes...17years...he is back!!!" And there was no doubt, he still is the Doctor.
It was a 7 Minutes Episode but it has been the most important one in Who history.
By letting the 8th Doctor, remember and speak out the names of his audio companions, the BBC canonised all the Big Finish audio Storys and made McGann the Doctor with the most adventures so far.
Sry for the long text...
Imagine if Doctor Who were made in america from then on. We’d fill it with big name american actors, action, guns, explosions, and worst of all: FRENCH FRIES. ‘Murica!
🎸🤯🇺🇸
Doctor Who > Star Trek
God, Eric Roberts - he RUINED the Doctor Who TV movie!
The BBC is the fox news of regular television.
More like the CNN!
The BBC is the 'insert awful thing here' of television.
@@Ozzy_2014 They try to be unbiased but are undermined by the fact that not everything is a debat? CNN isn't the best place to get news, NPR is, but compared to Fox? You are quite literally better off not watching the news then watching Fox. Like you will have a better understanding of what's going on in the world if you just don't watch Fox news.
You mean Big Brother Corporation?