Honestly. Don’t have them go at the same speed. Just have them do full power and you will see the HST are WAY faster than class 800s. They just need time to catch up.
By the way the 800/802 is electric ⚡️ from London Paddington but when it gets to Didcot Parkway it will change to diesel. The HST is diesel all the way to is destination
If the speed was increased to something ludicrous the HST could have possibly had a chance only saying this because I did a HST from Paddington - Cardiff following a IET schedule and ended only being 2 minutes behind it when I arrived into Cardiff
Great video mate. Can you do an EMD SD70ACe vs a GE ES44AC? Any livery will do fine. It should be interesting to see who is the fastest acceleration on the freight side of things.
Hey Oliver I have a few questions 1. could you release the race track as a workshop item? 2. Where did the HST come from? 3. I can't get Armstrong powerhouses Class 800 because I do not want to spend my money on Train Simulator. and 4. Keep up the good work :D
Us Americans don’t have Dual Mode Hybrid Self Propelled Cars still in service but we do have Dual Mode Hybrid Locomotives List: EMD DM30AC Bombardier ALP-45DP EMD FL9 GE P32AC-DM Fairbanks-Morse P-12-42 GE Three Power BoxCab If you get Confused with some, For Electric Mode, They use a Electrified Third Rail with a Contact Shoe
I can't find the tractive effort on the Class 800, so if anyone knows then reply. But that seems to be the big difference on taking off. HST has very low tractive effort at just under 18,000 lb/ft of pulling power. I just did a test of an F7 default consist in scenario editor on Castle Rock for fun, versus HST going up the 2.3% grade racing to Larkspur. The F7 A/B combo really smoked the HST off the line and won the race basically because of that. On speed limited routes the HST can't use its higher horsepower (2250hp vs F7's 1500hp) and loses the race at the start as it struggles for traction. Perhaps what you should try is the F7 A/B consist against that Class 800, I think you'll find a much more competitive race.
Basically, F7's 56,000+ starting tractive effort with 40,000 continuous really smokes the HST's 17,980 starting and 10,000 continuous. I'm sure you'll find the Class 800 probably has similar tractive effort advantage.
Lazer jet I have a video idea for you.for a future video do another race of all the greatest British steam engines: flying Scotsman,9F,tornado and mallard etc and bring back the old intro it's just a thought I had for a few hours and it might be impossible but I thought it would be cool if you did.
I like the new race track you did! Btw this is a race request. Do sumex flirt vs Union of South Africa, what you do is get the sumex ( if you already have one ) it’s the red white German train that goes to Frankfurt . The sumex and Union of South Africa are my favourite trains. Please do this request. You’ve never done any of my requests.
The class 800 has double carafes compared to the HST train so it might not be fair and the fact that the track loops which doesn't matter for this test because there would be alot of distence anyway also do class 800 electric mode Vs diesel mode
The HST a lot faster than The IET(class 800) because the HST can go 148MPH but the IET can only go 140MPH in diesel and electric mode. So the HST is 8mph faster than The IET by a long shot. So the true winner is The HST!
the most interesting thing about the class 800 may be that its a hybrid and can switch. but when passengers see their train is a class 800 all they are thinking is of the impending bad back. also HOW DARE YOU call that monstrosity nice...
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Your issue here is that you've put a 90mph speed limit on the track so the HST was never going to catch up
hst wouldn't anyway
@@SteamingThroughYorkshire it would because The HST is a maximum speed 148MPH and the Class 800 can only go 140 MPH in diesel and electric mode.
@@Jake-vo1cj that's the record tho plus it's too slow to reach 148 in timr
@@Jake-vo1cj nah the IET could be faster
Honestly. Don’t have them go at the same speed. Just have them do full power and you will see the HST are WAY faster than class 800s. They just need time to catch up.
The HST is one of my favorite UK locomotives. If only us Americans had that High Speed Train on our lines. That would be really cool to see.
THE 800 IS NOT A HYBRID!! The proper term is a bi-mode.
Hey LaZeRJET, I think you should set the speed limit a lot higher, the speed limit on your race track is set to 90mph.
But great race by the way.
I would change it to 900 mph so unlimited speed boiiiiii
@@Basset86Trains09 hi
@@Basset86Trains09 I bought the ap hst mtu ep
And the ap 377, 379, 387
I'd say the problem with the new race track is the number of tracks there are. Other than that, it looks okay.
I would love to see you experiment with other Armstrong Powerhouse packs on the Race Track!
By the way the 800/802 is electric ⚡️ from London Paddington but when it gets to Didcot Parkway it will change to diesel. The HST is diesel all the way to is destination
If the speed was increased to something ludicrous the HST could have possibly had a chance only saying this because I did a HST from Paddington - Cardiff following a IET schedule and ended only being 2 minutes behind it when I arrived into Cardiff
Great video mate. Can you do an EMD SD70ACe vs a GE ES44AC? Any livery will do fine. It should be interesting to see who is the fastest acceleration on the freight side of things.
love the race track and a happy new year
I prefer the class 800 better mainly because it has more detail and electronic trains can go really fast
Hey Oliver I have a few questions
1. could you release the race track as a workshop item?
2. Where did the HST come from?
3. I can't get Armstrong powerhouses Class 800 because I do not want to spend my money on Train Simulator.
and 4. Keep up the good work :D
South wales coastal include the gwr hst and idk how u want anyone to answer "question" 3 as its more of a statement lol
We need hybrid locomotives in America, especially for Amtrak’s north eastern corridor, since a few parts aren’t electrified yet
i love the new racetrack oliver i think you should have a mega big race diesel vs steam uk trains to see who really is the fastest
Us Americans don’t have Dual Mode Hybrid Self Propelled Cars still in service but we do have Dual Mode Hybrid Locomotives
List:
EMD DM30AC
Bombardier ALP-45DP
EMD FL9
GE P32AC-DM
Fairbanks-Morse P-12-42
GE Three Power BoxCab
If you get Confused with some, For Electric Mode, They use a Electrified Third Rail with a Contact Shoe
Actually, Only one of these uses Overhead Catenary For Electric Mode
Hey Lazer could you do these races: repton Vs tornado.
TGV duplex Vs class 803.
and Acela express Vs Transpennine class 802
@LaZeR JET Given the chance and experience in TS, will you pull the Royal Train? Pls reply to me ASAP
It’s cool being one of the first people to be here and feels nice to be here
When will u review more routes
0:00 wow you updated your layout
I can't find the tractive effort on the Class 800, so if anyone knows then reply. But that seems to be the big difference on taking off. HST has very low tractive effort at just under 18,000 lb/ft of pulling power. I just did a test of an F7 default consist in scenario editor on Castle Rock for fun, versus HST going up the 2.3% grade racing to Larkspur. The F7 A/B combo really smoked the HST off the line and won the race basically because of that. On speed limited routes the HST can't use its higher horsepower (2250hp vs F7's 1500hp) and loses the race at the start as it struggles for traction. Perhaps what you should try is the F7 A/B consist against that Class 800, I think you'll find a much more competitive race.
Basically, F7's 56,000+ starting tractive effort with 40,000 continuous really smokes the HST's 17,980 starting and 10,000 continuous. I'm sure you'll find the Class 800 probably has similar tractive effort advantage.
@LazerJet The Class 800 is more of a bimode train and less of a hybrid.
Yeah, I love this guy already!
What’s your pc specs?
Do UK iconic trains v American iconic trains steam diesel and eleectric
I like the new race track I give it a 👍
Lazer jet
I have a video idea for you.for a future video do another race of all the greatest British steam engines: flying Scotsman,9F,tornado and mallard etc and bring back the old intro it's just a thought I had for a few hours and it might be impossible but I thought it would be cool if you did.
is train sim classic dead?
I like the new race track you did! Btw this is a race request. Do sumex flirt vs Union of South Africa, what you do is get the sumex ( if you already have one ) it’s the red white German train that goes to Frankfurt . The sumex and Union of South Africa are my favourite trains. Please do this request. You’ve never done any of my requests.
1 year and still waiting
Edit Wednesday 6th March 2024: its been 2 years
Omg that is cool that you always do fast power for the trains il over it
Hey Lazer jet can you do a race of the NYC Hudson and the exseller express plz
You are my biggest hero
Can you do a London underground race
The class 800 has double carafes compared to the HST train so it might not be fair and the fact that the track loops which doesn't matter for this test because there would be alot of distence anyway also do class 800 electric mode Vs diesel mode
The HST a lot faster than The IET(class 800) because the HST can go 148MPH but the IET can only go 140MPH in diesel and electric mode. So the HST is 8mph faster than The IET by a long shot.
So the true winner is The HST!
Nobody knows how fast the class 800 can go.
nice route but is it private?
can you race bahamas vs class 33?
This is a Great video
Yay! Lazer Jet is Back in 2022!
I remember when you sent me a message for my birthday right?
I love GWR
Lazerjet can you do a race corination vs Mallard
hi Oliver can you do commpany vs commpany LNER Vs Cross Country Vs ScotRail
Request: Class 28 Metropolitan vs Class 35 Hymek
Please make a race between a Gresley A1 and a Castle
I have a question
I LOVE your vidios
Hi Jet can you race Mallard vs Bullet Train
hey LaZeR JET can you do a steam race,milwaukee road class f7 vs NYC Hudson vs mallard.i just subsribed
Can you make a programming tutorial for ts 2022 pls? Would be much appreciated. 🙂🙂🙂
do bittern vs mallard because, i got bittern up to 130mph
I say the 800 is gonna win
How is that a thing Oliver
my new bestie
Union Pacific Big Boy vs Union Pacific EMD DD40AX Centennial vs Union Pacific Gas turbine.
You should add a tunnel.
Do an American diesel race
Plz do a rematch with mallard and the union pacific 844
Do a race with steam train and stop till you fill it all up and the super class 47 is in it
And diesel mode is slower than the castles (hst) that there replacing
Hello laZeR remember me.
u should re do this video and make sure u don't have speed limit
Maybe bring back your Merchant navy Best reskin ever #OOOOOYESSSSSSSSSSSSSS Engines for a race?
Make an ungraded Jump map!
8:52 U used Wembley Stadium
Please please please make a Indian trains race
the most interesting thing about the class 800 may be that its a hybrid and can switch. but when passengers see their train is a class 800 all they are thinking is of the impending bad back. also HOW DARE YOU call that monstrosity nice...
Good luck
Awwwww I wanted a class 390 pendolino avanti west coast
I think it's gonna be the class 800
Central Pacific Jupiter United States 4-4-0 vs City of Truro United Kingdom 4-4-0. 🇺🇸vs🇬🇧
On this video it was 2 days until my sister birthday
The iet can beet a hst to 60 but an hst csn beet a a iet to top speed do yes putying it on full power foes matter
Kinda pointless hst would have caught and overtaken would have been 143-148mph
Class 43 is gonna win is my bet
It’s Great western railway
I think Class 800
Hi laze4
Class43
And a tyi
I think the class 800 will win
Guys the queen died
I think 800 5:20
I think 800
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First!
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i was right class 800 won
The class800 will win
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