A Norse-Gothic Comparison
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Looking at the same text in Gothic and Old Norse can elucidate some clear differences and similarities in these old Germanic languages.
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it's interesting the way in which Gothic shows that the Germanic languages were much more reminiscent of Latin and Greek RIGHT BEFORE the Dark Ages and then underwent rapid change through syncopating unstressed syllables
Volume on your videos is quite low. Makes it difficult to follow on phones and pads. Love the content and information, keep it up!
tru, stands out when scrolling thru shorts as well
it used to bother me a little, but then i got some better sound stuff (upgraded from potato to advanced potato)
I have been following this channel for a few years now, and I have never had such experience, and I only watch from a smart phone, and have done so from different brands, and models.
If it were the video, it would impact everyone viewing. It's far more likely to be a problem with your device, or your connection - not the video.
First time? That's kind of a staple of this channel lmao.
@@HaraZen13no it's a definitely a running theme. Everyone is just used to it.
I have to thank you for the great educational value in your channel, however I was wondering: would you please do a video on depictions of Asgard and its many halls? I am wondering how they all looked
The leather jacket is so good it's almost the main character of these videos
I really enjoyed this video; I enjoy the Old Norse videos, but I haven't studied ON, yet (although I 've recently bought some good books on it), w/ the bulk of my studies in Old Gmc languages being confined to OE (&, to a lesser extent, OHG) & Gothic, so this video was an interesting comparison to me.
Love your videos! A note about "villain" being "someone who lives on a villa". At the end of the Roman Empire, many of the very wealthy Romans retreated to their country estates, fortified them as best they could, and hired small armies of mercenaries to protect them. In many cases, these armies were made up of people who were little more than thugs and criminals with minimal training, but with the ability to fight. So, it's little wonder to me that the term for people living on a villa might quickly become a pejorative for an evil or criminal person.
That's a great theory. Makes perfect sense when you put it like that.
This honestly blows my mind
Awesome vid, especially as a student of both. Fascinating.
Thanks for putting this kinda info on here just recently have been working on my ancestory and traced it back to the year 149 had no clue our name wasnt always armstrong no discovering my 65th great grandfather was njord according to sketchy lineage that all started in 995 with my great grandfather siward whose father was hringo beron which lead me further and ising many tools of information to assit on pin pointing
Good video.
A bit off topic, but what style of cowboy hat are you wearing?
Have you seen pagan minstrel cover "valhalla calling" in old norse? Thought you might find it neat.
Jackson, have you heard of the barren valley petroglyph site in oregon? I believe there is nordic writings on a boulder there, I would love to send you some pics of these if possible. I hope you see this comment.
If there is "Nordic" stuff there, they're forgeries.
Many thanks for this rare comparsion of Old Norse and Gothic using the New Testament. I was having a hard time following some the comparisons between the two languages. Around 8:20 you mentioned that "you can tell the Old Norse were conveted by Latin speakers because of their inflection of Jesus..." on the contrary, would it appear that speakers/writers of Gothic were converted by Greek speakers? The answer may have been implicit to an astute linguist.
Gothic is quite different but incredibly fun to read and write in
plsss I want a tattoo that says in futhark "Thorir carved these runes" or "These runes were carved by the man most skilled in runes in the western ocean" That could be so funny.
And could you do a video about rune graffiti? :)
3 𐌸𐍂𐌴𐌹𐍃.
Somebody found the Lexilogos keyboard, huh?
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Dr. Crawford, have you ever considered investing in a microphone?
Just needs compressor/limiter, can even do that in post. Boost like +10 db my suggestion, turn it up slightly, make sure nothing peaks, and 0 it out. All of that is in Audacity for free.
Yes, he has. As he has said numerous times. Have you considered investing in "not being a jerk to strangers" lessons? Because you're obviously new here. Might as well complain how he isn't pronouncing the Icelandic correctly
@@hive_indicator318Why hasn't he bought one then??
@@hive_indicator318 Asking a question is considered being a jerk? Christ.
Follow your own advice.
Do I understand correctly that sunjos is cognate to modern english sooth?
yep. it's cognate to both "sin" and "sooth" but not to the verb soothe which is unrelated to the previous words
The Goths that did not migrate now speak Swedish.
ᛁᚠ᛫ᚦᚢ᛫ᚢᛁᛚᛏ᛫ᚠᚢᛚᚴᚬᛘᛁᚾ᛫ᚢᛁᚱᛅ᛫ᛁ᛫ᚠᚱᚬᚦᛚᛁᚴ᛫ᚦᛅ᛫ᚾᛁᛘ᛫ᚦᚢ᛫ᛅᛚᛅᛦ᛫ᛏᚢᚾᚴᚢᛦ᛫ᛁᚾ᛫ᛏᛁᚾ᛫ᚦᚬ᛫ᛁᚴᛁ᛫ᛅᛏ᛫ᚼᛁᛚᛏᛦ᛫ᚦᛁᚾᛁ᛫ᛏᚢᚾᚴᚢ
(Transliteration: if þu uilt fulgomin uira i froþlig þa nim þu alaʀ tunguʀ in tin þo igi at hiltʀ þini tungu;
Transcription: ef þú vilt fullkominn vera í fróðleik þá nem þú allar tungur en týn þó eigi at heldr þinni tungu)
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Götaland, Gotland, Göteborg, Göte, Göthilda. Southern Sweden
Quinque 🏛️
Fimf.
Gothic is nothing that any Viking age North German or later would recognize. It is similar to Proto-Norse, but also that language has changed to be unrecognizable since after the Viking age.
I don't think it's true that they wouldn't understand a thing. The again I'm no expert.Some Guitisk below from Lambdins Introduction to Ancient Languages: Gothic. The old Saxon is my own translation. By North German I assume you mean North Germany thus old Saxon and not North Germanic ie Norse. old Saxon had is and ist, like Gutisk had ist, all from PG * isti.
Singular nominative 'the or that ship'
Thata skip in Gutisk 'the or that ship'
That skip- Sahsisk
Sa hunds in Gutisk 'the hound'- Gutisk
Se hund sahsisk
Sa fisks- Gutisk
Se fisk- sahsisk
Sa thuidans siuks ist 'the king is sick'
se thiodan siok ist/is (saksisk old saxon)
Sa thiudans ist mikils-Gutisk
Sa thiodan/kuning ist/is mikil-Sahsisk
Hwar ist sa thiudans? Where is the king? Gutisk didn't have a variant of king, see kongungr, cyning, kuning all from *kuningaz.
Hwar is/ist se kuning/thiodan?
@@redwaldcuthberting7195 Ya know from all those Words for King You have below one would presume that ''Kuniggs'' is the right reconstruction.
Ah, you mean for Gutisk as gg means ng Not sure why such a word isn't attested in Gutisk tbh. .
xšuuah 😅
T and H, TH is D... Dor and Thor are gods.. the same. Could Goths simply mean gods? If not can we say it may be and add it the list of plausibilities.
What do you mean? Thor isn't attested in Gutisk. Also Thor would likely look more like PG *thunraz in Gutisk. See Proto-Norse * þonaraʀ>thor. At a guess if thunraz got into Gutisk it'd look something like *thunrs or maybe thunja for 'thunderer' probably wrong in my guesses.
No it is Germanic and not German. Neither German nor Germany existed back then.
Dr. Crawford, I feel like you are the official prophet of Asatru.
Abraham
Jesus
Mohammed
Crawford
I’m being facetious….
That’s interesting. A knowledgeable expert on old Norse, who doesn’t push any sort of spirituality and has been fairly clear on how little we know about how people worshiped those particular Gods, seems like a prophet of a religion that believes in said Gods?
I am in no way whatsoever trying to belittle people beliefs, as far as I’m concerned, faith is an incredibly personal thing and I don’t discredit anybody’s faith, or at least I try my best not to. That being said I’m just curious about what you mean. I think the idea of a very well studied person with no hidden motives, teaching Old Norse and other related things, being respected by those who’s faith is Asatru is cool.
I mean I can’t tell how serious your comment is, I mean it could be a joke and I’m just a doofus who fell for it, but if that’s not the case I’m curious why someone who practices said beliefs might view Dr. Crawford this way. And I ask that respectfully, curiosity being my only motive, holding no other intent, if you’d be kind enough to take the time to answer. Take care.
@user-it9jf5ox8k Oh ok. I guess my mind was stuck on preconceptions of the more "popular" religions, or however you'd describe them. Well the way you put it makes it sound like something I want to look more into. The idea at the head of that "religion" is certainly something that interests me. Thank you kindly for the explanation, and showing me just how pigeon-holed my thinking was.
Also I was being facetious.
My grandfather is 100% Danish and when he came to Canada he wore thors hammer and the teachers in elementary school made him take it off because they thought it was an upside down cross. The best way to describe asatru is each god is a room in your mind palace, when you pray or mediate find that calm connecting state with your deity “Odin wisdom” your seeking guidance for a task, just taking a moment to connect and get grounded. The more you do it and find your formula the better you’ll feel and the easier it becomes to find the answers within yourself. This is the best way to describe it to someone who thinks Asatru falls into the same category as “a one and only that you pray too directly”.
Some people say Allah “for followers of Islam” has all the answers, Odin teaches us YOU must seek wisdom. YOU must be hospitable, YOU must be battle ready. The havamal guides us on how.
How I interpret the havamal is I must
Read
Work out
Eat healthy
Be trust worthy
Don’t sleep in
Express my love and gratitude to every member of my family every day.
Everyday I make a point to sped money in someone some how, preferably a child. 25cent gum, cup of coffee etc.
Be honourable
Be respectful & respect worthy.
It’s a literal step by step guide on how to live life.
When you leave your house are you prepared for the day? Did you have a balanced breakfast? Did you read & write a little something? Did you pray or mediate? Did you express your love to your loved ones? Are you battle ready? You could get mugged at any point. Wisdom is a big part of asatru I make a point to read educational literature and do a little writing, some poetry of my own, I’ve taken up drawing ✍️ and I do do random math problem before bed to whine down. I’m not trying to preach this is a very quick understanding from my view point of the havamal.