That's pretty much ALWAYS the problem with "security by obscurity": the only ones who see through it, are the ones who actually try to get access to your data/system!
@@LRM12o8 Here's the thing, using cw/Morse code is more secure that WiFi just because the shear number of people not equipped to receive the RD signal. Although, in actuality it easier to decipher, for every one person that is even a war it's out there, there are 5000 people (or more) that are aware of WiFi.
so you use plain language code only the person you are sending to understands, like the french resistance used, " Pierre's dog has non naze, how does he smell? Tearreeb!"
Stepfather was a navigator in British Wellington bombers during the war. His wireless operator attended his 80th birthday celebrations and during an interminable speech by one of his nephews I noticed stepfather tapping on the table - then his wireless op would tap - then stepfather - they got bored so were having a private chat.
@@42468 Per blaw blaw blaw...Who cares? You're also not allowed to speed in your car. You're not allowed to do a lot of things that people do all the time.
@@42468 you are pretty correct and the other guy does have a fair point but you're more or less correct because the FCC will be on your butt if you broadcast anything without a license
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.
My attempt at transcription (it's faster than I can read and I had to replay it a few times): CQG CQDL9TX DL9TX I'm assuming CQG was a false start CQ means "calling any station" DL9TX is his callsign, all I can tell is that it's German.
By googling DL9TX, we are pretty sure that is an actual station. Only problem is, this is not CW modulation, just audio FMed into U/VHF, not that meaningful.
@@oldestriesThe 5 OHIO (..... --- .... .. ---) sounded to me like just a series of dots & dashes to test and/or demonstrate the functions of the keyer. The CQ G CQ DL9TX DL9TX was the message. Not sure what the G is for.
I still have my RadioShack book that teaches you MORIS code.. it works!! I learned MORIS code before I was 10yrs old then when onward I tech school a friend of mine and I taught ourselves sign language… as a way to talk to each other across the room at loud parties…. Discussing the girls there amongst other things. A couple of times the parties went dead silent as people watched us seemingly throwing signs at each other…😂🤣
If that is book witch is not available online or common, might want to copy it and put it out there. Many good useful books end up lost in digital age.
dang thugged out RF whippersnappers! First the done did doin' that (crips) C-Walk then finger-tuttin' spme (prolly threatning:) Sign Lengrish and now straight raw dogging the RFs, droppin' Morse Code synth lines Freq'in out all the HAMsters. hehe *I JK. FYI - best morse to know prolly is "SOS": 3 long 3 short 3 long ie: [- - - . . . - - -] *
That's the only Morse code I know@@OurSpaceshipEarth And the only reason I know it is because the headlights on mom's Chrysler 300 were flashing SOS in Morse code and my dad thought it was saying t i t s lol To this day, I have yet to understand why the locks sounded like a goose and why the car was signaling SOS, poor thing was screaming for help in every way possible!
I remember back in the day our toy walkie talkies came with a Morse code cipher on them. It would give you the basic so you could beep out morse code to your freinds. And they were toys, I was 8.
GenXer try not to act superior for mundane things challenge (impossible) typical GenXer "We could use cursive as a secret code cause 'kids these days' don't know it" Yeah I could speak Spanish around you and you wouldn't know what I was saying, either. What's your point? Also I guarantee the average GenXer doesn't know morse code that well, either. Morse code isn't a generation thing, it's a hobby/career thing. Also Also, as a millennial, I know cursive, can drive a manual, used to drink from the hose as a kid, rode bikes around town with my friend (I actually used to ride to the next town over to meet him), wandered the woods alone for fun, etc. Y'all aren't special. Stop pretending you are. Y'all keep acting like you had a monopoly on everything and it drives everyone else nuts.
Bad security for three reasons. 1: Morse decoder AI, don't need to know Morse code a computer can do it for you 2: enough people around that still know it to not be 100% effective. A lot of your ham radio guys and a decent portion of you coms/sigint military types will know it which would be the majority of people that might intercept your coms. 3: even if someone doesn't know it with SDR it is easier than ever (isn't hard analog either) to record transmission. If you give almost anyone enough time and a cheat sheet they will decode it. If you want a little bit of security a Caesar shift cypher would provide minimal, but I would pre share a specific shift based on time of day and day of week. Starting with Sunday being one and Saturday being 7 multiplied by the last number of the current time in military time. Example would be Tuesday at 1134 being a shift of 3x1=3 or Friday at 1747 being a shift of 6x7=42 42-26=16 If you wanted additional security you could also add "salt" to the message by making it so that every 3-5 words you introduce a 4-5 letter word that doesn't make sense in context. This will make it harder for anyone trying to crack it to find a meaningful pattern. Salt could also be first 2 or last 2 letters of each word rotated etc etc. These are much better low tech security methods.
@@pleasecho2 cool so then you would trust it to send your banking information, social security number, credit card info, date of birth, and mothers maiden name out? Oh you wouldn't trust it for that? Poor security.
Gramps was a coder on the midway back in korea. He could send but he couldn’t translate. He said the translators were wicked fast at their jobs. Once computers came in they “fired” everyone in the code room and told them they can essentially pick anything else to do. He became a post man for the sea bees
An app for a smartphone that utilizes USBc to 3.5 mm jack to control keying code. Type the message on the phone and broadcast. Similarly, the app can translate using its microphone to hear the transceiver
@@Breakfast_and_Bullets 05HI5O (I think?) CQ G CQ DL9TX DL9TX That’s what he said as far as I can tell. Not sure what the first part is or what the “g” is for, but obviously there’s “CQ” and what seems to be a callsign.
You do realize that a lot of radio is being recorded and researched for national security reasons. Very easy for software to decode this live/from-recording without any human required. Non the less it's great to see this being done on that device. Been looking for a portable keyer like this myself.
I understand why you think that and maybe they should still require it. Personally, I don't think it should be required. That being said, more people use/know CW than ever in history.
@@Caderic I'm with you, I'm about to go for my license and I feel like the requirement for CW is a barrier to those who would never use it and want to get a license.
lmao, pick a random book at the library, any topic any shelf, pick a random page write down the sentence that stands out to you, rinse repeat, you now have a randomized seed to pull passwords from. best tip...burn after memorizing.
@@Blox117 no, the sentences you copy over from random books to a sheet of paper. the list on the single page of paper is what you burn, not the library.
That is a really cool little device. Having it autorepeat and be double sided for dots and dashes is SO simple, I can't believe I never conceived of such a thing! Thanks for sharing, even if you did say that about my mum
Yankee morse keys in WWII were double sided. It's faster, but I gather fingerprinting to identify the operator was easier, and once you knew the operator you could track his unit. My Grandfather was an Electrical Artificer (Radio) and got a medal for sinking a battleship in WWI... while he was still in harbour. You don't need to understand code to get useful int from it.
It's also much easier to use over longer distances because of the binary nature of it. It's making a square wave with no modulation. It's the absolute peak transmission power, and easier to decipher on the other end vs voice at the extreme range. Not to mention you can use a spark gap and actually push some decent output in an absolute emergency.
Morse is a known/public code so it's fair game to use. It's illegal to use secret codes over public ham radio frequencies without a special license for a specific use on a specified site. Software defined radio can decipher morse, but the looser, or less consistent your speed, the harder it is for normal software to decode. Not breaking any rules though.
@FuckUA-cam-bz4zkconstitution says nothing about the airwaves, it's a government controlled operation, and it's strictly managed, it's why jammers are caught so fast and so effectively. As soon as you mess with the air waves, you ruin an entire infrastructure, you MUST follow the rules when broadcasting
@FuckUA-cam-bz4zk that's not how radio works, you have to play by the rules. It's considered a broadcast which puts it under the FCC, it's not public speech, it's the same as radio, you have to play by the rules, even when it's government
An old family friend who I ended up working for was a wireless operator in the sub mariners. It must have been 30 years since he had done it for real but he could still work the key so fast that if I hadnt seen him with my own eyes I would have thought it was computer generated and he still got annoyed with himself because he knew he was off his old speeds. I wonder how many people would have been able to keep up with him even then at his slower rate. Obviously people are still learning it and maybe the keys are better now but I'm guessing that his job would have required him to be considered better than most at a time when the competition would have been much higher. Theres probably very few people who reach those standards now? I used to love hearing the storys of him being on the old diesel-electric submarines during the cold war. RIP Louis
We all knew the "typo" - & .. it isn't SO difficult to memorise alphabet & numbers & a few diacritical marks. Then go to speeds ... 10 words per minute & beyond. Few months & your autonomic system'l do it automatically.
🙋🏾♂️I can read it quite well, it was part of my career but not that fast BUT I have several friends who it was their job to read it that fast😁😁 Slowing it down messed them up
Not only one of the oldest form of encrypted message, the standard Morse communication also involved one of the oldest form of data compression to allow faster rate. For example, if you want to simply call random strangers over the airwaves into contact, simply say CQ CQ repeatedly. If you want to "end the call", simply say 73. Basically almost each words or sentences has their own abbreviation or codes.
@@PatrickKQ4HBD #2 already exists for anyone to use for free... It's dots and dashes(or quick sound and longer sound...), it's pretty easy to make software for
@@PatrickKQ4HBD There's several android apps that do it. I've only used one and it hasn't been updated in 3 years. It's still about 95% accurate as long as there isn't too much background noise.
CW is not “security through obscurity” in any way. MOST people will recognize it, especially if they know enough to listen to an amateur band, and there are many apps you can play a recording into and have it give you the plain text.
Most people don't even have radios, so technically just transmitting over radio is already security through obscurity, but then even amongst ham radio operators today from what I can tell less and less of them are capable of understanding Morse code without needing such apps, and if you are faint enough with your broadcasting, even if someone was listening to the correct frequency, they might not recognize that a broadcast is happening, especially if you were out putting a low enough power. So I would argue this is one of the finest examples of security through obscurity, two people in the know figuring it out is a matter of getting a radio, but do people who don't know and don't necessarily know where to ask, figuring it out is quite the daunting challenge.
@@LockDOTspotI don’t think they meant coding, but rather just knowing the number system and how it functions. I’d say more people know binary than base 8, or hexadecimal
Tons of people know binary. Moreso than Morse code for sure. It's extremely simple. If you mean decode ascii, that's never really been a requirement of communication. The computer does it for you. Even back when terminals were literally typewriters hooked up to a computer.
And how to cash your first paycheck (I had a friend call me up for that 2 weeks after graduation, he didn't even know his check from the stub!) And Roman numerals..
@@Hogla287 Let’s say you’re in an emergency situation (such as on a life raft or lost in a forrest ) and you need to communicate for help. With morse code you comunicate with light flashes, smoke, or via a small survival transmitter. Morse code would be extremely helpful in preventing deaths
@@Bobsmith-yf9oy The people who needed to know it most aren’t alive to reply to your comment because they didn’t know morse code and therefore weren’t rescued to tell their tale. Your logic is like asking: How often have you used a parachute? So because you’ve never used one, they’re not important right?
being able to read and bang numbers together theoretically fixes the tax thing. oh wait, kids these days have terrible reading and arithmetic scores? oops…
very cool device - last time i work morse code was nearly 40 years ago. i was a radio operator in my military service time. maybe i should try to learn it again . . .
I could make a very strong argument for voice radio being security through obscurity. All security through obscurity means, is to anyone not in the know figuring out how to bypass your security setup is quite difficult, to people who know dealing with your security measures is quite easy. You could also technically make the argument that a cell phone call is security through obscurity because they are basically unencrypted.
crazy. i was just today talking with my dad about how to increase cyber security for very private networks by using older generations of tech or protocols. since most old stuff is not compatible with new tech anymore
Ok, What's your point? Morse code decrypted only to discover everyone is talking in code because lesson 1 of opsec is quite literally "one is none, two is one"
@@Div1ne_1 my point is it's not obscure, it's definitely not secure. You could just decrypt by using one of the mobile apps, or just recording and passing it back through decryption.
@@-Good4Y0uand that's kind of what security through obscurity means, It means that to anyone who knows what your security setup is, getting past it is hardly a challenge, If you are in North America, the vast majority of locks available on store shelves can be bypassed without you needing any more tools than shimstock and tin snips, but I would be willing to bet money that you would actually call these products security devices. Even though with my knowledge level I could get through those a lot easier than I could decode Morse code
@@gridbasedotnetmore effective to send properly encrypted (RSA) data, but that’s illegal on every amateur/public frequency (at least here in the US). But there’s a lot more people that know Morse than you think.
@crd716 how is it more effective then if you can’t use it on HAM bands. Lol. nothing can stop you from developing your own personal cryptographic dictionary using Morse style technics. Then make that a part of your SOPs with the RTOs of your team. That is actually the most effective thing to do. Especially for someone just looking to get off the ground with things. Incorporate a mathematical formula for scheduled signal hopping and you’re dark as can be.
@@gridbasedotnet It's about as effective if not more effective than yours, since both are illegal. Check Part 97.113 (a)(4) and realize any encoding or obfuscation is illegal. Alternatively, realize that if your signals aren't constant and just look like noise to an outside observer that nobody will probably care.
There are certainly many ways to skin the cat of encryption. I would argue that obscuring Morse code as a means of “encryption” is far less detectable or, likely to be reported, than a clearly encrypted digital signal over the airwaves. As always, each line has their place and time. I don’t think one is better than the other as much as I believe it’s dependent on who you’re trying to talk to, what their radio set up is, what their proficiency level with said radios is, and a myriad of other factors. But, at the end of the day GRIDBASE is always trying to demonstrate out of the box methods for tackling this issue. I want to present creative alternatives and solutions in the event someone lacks the time, money, knowledge, or other resources to understand and effectively use the Encryption features that are available on the market today.
You are correct that most people cannot decipher morse code, but 'Security by Obscurity' in THIS case should be an admission you yourself have not accomplished security, and NOT that you've found an ultra-secure means of communication.
Grandpa just woke up and put his uniform on screaming
Picturing this made me laugh 🤣🤣🤣 got out of bed like grandpa from Charlie and the chocolate factory.
Yes, I did !!!
Best comment I’ve seen all year 😂
Ah man! Laughed so hard 😂
🤣🤣🤣
"Most people cannot decipher CW/Morse Code."
Meanwhile, the people who can decipher it are exactly the people you do not want listening to you.
That's pretty much ALWAYS the problem with "security by obscurity": the only ones who see through it, are the ones who actually try to get access to your data/system!
Bingo.
@@LRM12o8 Here's the thing, using cw/Morse code is more secure that WiFi just because the shear number of people not equipped to receive the RD signal. Although, in actuality it easier to decipher, for every one person that is even a war it's out there, there are 5000 people (or more) that are aware of WiFi.
And it's stupidly easy to make a translator in software. You can even program it into some radios so it reads the message out on the screen.
so you use plain language code only the person you are sending to understands, like the french resistance used, " Pierre's dog has non naze, how does he smell? Tearreeb!"
Stepfather was a navigator in British Wellington bombers during the war. His wireless operator attended his 80th birthday celebrations and during an interminable speech by one of his nephews I noticed stepfather tapping on the table - then his wireless op would tap - then stepfather - they got bored so were having a private chat.
I'm dying LMFAO
Thats awesome stuff!
I gotta learn Morse
I’m American so I can’t imagine any old person caring what their *nephew* thinks.
@@JHimminy huh?
My electrician Argentinian grandpa just stood up and started waving
😂😂😂😂
Electrician? Yeah, his uniform had a bunch of lightning bolts and stuff
@@fetidcreeper yea
Two bolts on neck collar
Electrician? I think radioman.
@@1anthonybrowningwoosh
For those wondering he said “we’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty “
Old no longer funny please stop.
Ha ha you had me for a minute
That was good!!!😅
Womp womp@@DukeJimmyJones
@@DukeJimmyJones Oh, there you are Mr DJJones. I've been trying to reach you about your extended warranty
"I got the milk"
"Tell your mother I'll be home soon"
What about the smokes?
What if the mother is also out for milk
Who to tell then?
Ooooi😂
Plot twist: the son is also out to find some milkies 😂
That was a blatant lie
"L-e-a-v-e a l-i-k-e a-n-d s-u-b-s-c-r-i-b-e"
For some reason, I read the title as "Security by Obesity," and I kept thinking "his fingers aren't that fat."
I read "Security by obscenity"
I'll gladly leave my ass hanging out my pants if it keeps people away 😂
😂
You can’t kidnap me if you can’t pick me up
Security by obscurity, one of the most triggering words for anyone working in the modern world of cyber security
Interesting enough, it's not obsolete. More people US it than ever in it history.
per 47 CFR § 97.113 you’re not allowed to broadcast anything meaningfully secure
@@42468 Per blaw blaw blaw...Who cares?
You're also not allowed to speed in your car. You're not allowed to do a lot of things that people do all the time.
@@Caderic but you usually aren’t telling everyone nearby that you’re speeding
@@42468 you are pretty correct and the other guy does have a fair point but you're more or less correct because the FCC will be on your butt if you broadcast anything without a license
"Send help. I've pooped my pants"
No Help is coming we also pooped our pants
Coming Mr Biden
See why? Just why? Anyone ever have the flu? Think it a fart? Lol oh boy balls deep in mucus 😅😮😊
It was taco bell😢
I see the communists dropped the brown note… good God we are doomed!
hearing that CQ call is about the most Morse I can do
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.
...but what are SR20's going for?
Watch what happens when we get to Race Wars (terrible name by the way), Hectors gonna be walking home when I take his pink slip.
That's amazing, I never knew there were such small keyers you could attach to portable radios
So the idea of this is longer range communication I'd assume
Yes 🗿
And wireless with encryption, since not many know morse anymore.
except for you can't get continuous wave from fm 😂
Spam. Scam. Won't really work when needed
Do the "Darude - Sandstorm"
Literally 🤣
😂
😂😂
I figured that’s the only reason someone would buy something like this
😂 glad i’m not the only one
My attempt at transcription (it's faster than I can read and I had to replay it a few times):
CQG CQDL9TX DL9TX
I'm assuming CQG was a false start
CQ means "calling any station"
DL9TX is his callsign, all I can tell is that it's German.
The first chunk was 5 OHIO. Whats he doing there? I think his call sign is DL9. TX means transmitting.
@@oldestriesThank you, I was very lost. I know morse but don’t know any codes or abbreviations for things, and this just sounded like jibberish
By googling DL9TX, we are pretty sure that is an actual station. Only problem is, this is not CW modulation, just audio FMed into U/VHF, not that meaningful.
@@wodddj okay
@@oldestriesThe 5 OHIO (..... --- .... .. ---) sounded to me like just a series of dots & dashes to test and/or demonstrate the functions of the keyer. The CQ G CQ DL9TX DL9TX was the message. Not sure what the G is for.
Not many people can read it that fast either
That is NOT fast
@@pleasecho2Again, not a lot of people can read it that fast. Morse code is an almost dead skill
No code requirement did Morse code in
@@JamesThomas-kx5sjyou are wrong, those that can read it can read it that fast.
@@JamesThomas-kx5sj Not many people want to learn. Quite a lot of people work CW. You just weren't interested in this issue.
I still have my RadioShack book that teaches you MORIS code.. it works!! I learned MORIS code before I was 10yrs old then when onward I tech school a friend of mine and I taught ourselves sign language… as a way to talk to each other across the room at loud parties…. Discussing the girls there amongst other things. A couple of times the parties went dead silent as people watched us seemingly throwing signs at each other…😂🤣
If that is book witch is not available online or common, might want to copy it and put it out there. Many good useful books end up lost in digital age.
What is MORIS code?
dang thugged out RF whippersnappers! First the done did doin' that (crips) C-Walk then finger-tuttin' spme (prolly threatning:) Sign Lengrish and now straight raw dogging the RFs, droppin' Morse Code synth lines Freq'in out all the HAMsters. hehe *I JK. FYI - best morse to know prolly is "SOS": 3 long 3 short 3 long ie: [- - - . . . - - -] *
That's the only Morse code I know@@OurSpaceshipEarth
And the only reason I know it is because the headlights on mom's Chrysler 300 were flashing SOS in Morse code and my dad thought it was saying t i t s lol
To this day, I have yet to understand why the locks sounded like a goose and why the car was signaling SOS, poor thing was screaming for help in every way possible!
Knows MORIS code, doesn't know how to spell *Morse code.
Tell Gary I forgot my screwdriver; Have him bring me one, it’s sitting in the front small pocket of my bag.
“Drop everything, come quick, Craig’s in trouble “
Is it because of his list?
@danielz8630 Hah now that's some humorous thinking right there! Love that 😂
You can call on tyroonneeee😂😂😂😂😂
"put some hot sauce on my burrito baby"!!!!
The best comment 🤣🤣👌🏾
I remember back in the day our toy walkie talkies came with a Morse code cipher on them. It would give you the basic so you could beep out morse code to your freinds. And they were toys, I was 8.
I never knew how to use them! So long ago, they were crappy Taiwanese toys, probably didn't work properly either!
@@panagiotis1519 yea they sucked😂
Yup, $14 radio shack walkie talkies.
I had one of those too!
I had a gray toy radio set when I was a kid. I could literally see farther than they could transmit. But I was hot shyt for having them.
This has been playing in my ear for about 2 hours during sleep. I now understand Morse code as well as the secrets of the universe
My dogs will hear that and chew the hell out of my radio before I get there!!
This, cursive writing, and the manual transmission... Someone fluent in all three..
My god..... It's Jason Borne
I feel like 2 of those are significantly easier to learn than morse code 😂
Manual takes a day to learn imo. Cursive is a little longer do not think it's harder than morse code
Morse code is easy to learn but hard to learn it fast and remember it l. I had it down at one point but i was not very fast and now i remember nothing
GenXer try not to act superior for mundane things challenge (impossible)
typical GenXer "We could use cursive as a secret code cause 'kids these days' don't know it"
Yeah I could speak Spanish around you and you wouldn't know what I was saying, either. What's your point?
Also I guarantee the average GenXer doesn't know morse code that well, either. Morse code isn't a generation thing, it's a hobby/career thing.
Also Also, as a millennial, I know cursive, can drive a manual, used to drink from the hose as a kid, rode bikes around town with my friend (I actually used to ride to the next town over to meet him), wandered the woods alone for fun, etc. Y'all aren't special. Stop pretending you are.
Y'all keep acting like you had a monopoly on everything and it drives everyone else nuts.
Or any 30-something in the south.
Interesting antenna modification. Would like to know more about the design.
It's a simple dipole with a transmission line matching section.
Bro speaks to aliens with that...
@@bennyrich7361You would be surprised what you can actually do with that.
Dowsing rod for finding old folks homes
It's a gimmick, that's all
Can you see your wife trying to use Morris Code when she can just use the regular mic button to call for help to save your life. 😂
Having a manual option is invaluable but a burst option with multiple Hertz encryption would be golden.
Bad security for three reasons.
1: Morse decoder AI, don't need to know Morse code a computer can do it for you
2: enough people around that still know it to not be 100% effective. A lot of your ham radio guys and a decent portion of you coms/sigint military types will know it which would be the majority of people that might intercept your coms.
3: even if someone doesn't know it with SDR it is easier than ever (isn't hard analog either) to record transmission. If you give almost anyone enough time and a cheat sheet they will decode it.
If you want a little bit of security a Caesar shift cypher would provide minimal, but I would pre share a specific shift based on time of day and day of week. Starting with Sunday being one and Saturday being 7 multiplied by the last number of the current time in military time.
Example would be Tuesday at 1134 being a shift of 3x1=3 or Friday at 1747 being a shift of 6x7=42 42-26=16
If you wanted additional security you could also add "salt" to the message by making it so that every 3-5 words you introduce a 4-5 letter word that doesn't make sense in context. This will make it harder for anyone trying to crack it to find a meaningful pattern. Salt could also be first 2 or last 2 letters of each word rotated etc etc.
These are much better low tech security methods.
I know it was secure enough for my brother and I to send secret messages to one another at the dinner table
@@pleasecho2 cool so then you would trust it to send your banking information, social security number, credit card info, date of birth, and mothers maiden name out? Oh you wouldn't trust it for that? Poor security.
Decoding can be done with traditional DSP no need for AI.
You can’t send out ciphered broadcasts.
see 47 CFR § 97.113
prohibition of “messages encoded for the purpose of obscuring their meaning”
“I’ve fallen and I can’t get up”
*Life Alert!*
@@MirekFe the meme that will never die
@@garretreed9709 💯
It transcribed to CQ CQ CQ DL9TX DL9TX... an Amateur Radio operator out of Germany. Great little mobile setup for CW.
He said, get my tea ready. Be home soon.
Gramps was a coder on the midway back in korea. He could send but he couldn’t translate. He said the translators were wicked fast at their jobs. Once computers came in they “fired” everyone in the code room and told them they can essentially pick anything else to do. He became a post man for the sea bees
An app for a smartphone that utilizes USBc to 3.5 mm jack to control keying code. Type the message on the phone and broadcast. Similarly, the app can translate using its microphone to hear the transceiver
Is this an idea or a product that exists?
Now that's a cool idea
It’s already out there for those of us who need it. You won’t find it on any App Store though. Most of us homebrew our own software.
@@Cfomodz if you have a HAM license you already know the answer to this. It is used ALL the time.
Any idea where you can pick up one of this paddles for the audio jack ? New to hamm just trying to learn
I caught the “CQ” but it’d take me a minute to figure out the rest. I want this key lol.
What does he say? It's a bit fast for me to decipher, my Morse is garbage
@@Breakfast_and_Bullets
05HI5O (I think?)
CQ
G
CQ
DL9TX
DL9TX
That’s what he said as far as I can tell. Not sure what the first part is or what the “g” is for, but obviously there’s “CQ” and what seems to be a callsign.
@@lukepippin4781 that's what I thought, but I wanted to verify. I was hearing (in plain English), "Hey everyone. Hey everyone. This is DL9TX. Say hi?"
@@lukepippin4781
CQ- Calling anyone
G-?
CQ- Calling anyone
DL9TX
DL9TX- Maybe a product name?
@@lukepippin4781 My morse is horrible.. I heard the CQ, and at the beginning it almost sounds like a quick SOS call. The rest is ...?
i'm still learning, i couldn't dicipher that fast if my life dependent on it
You do realize that a lot of radio is being recorded and researched for national security reasons. Very easy for software to decode this live/from-recording without any human required. Non the less it's great to see this being done on that device. Been looking for a portable keyer like this myself.
I had to do 5wpm the first time I took the test. I think it’s a shame they dropped that requirement
I think you still need it for some certificates
@@AlkatrossNot in the US.
I understand why you think that and maybe they should still require it. Personally, I don't think it should be required.
That being said, more people use/know CW than ever in history.
@@Caderic I'm with you, I'm about to go for my license and I feel like the requirement for CW is a barrier to those who would never use it and want to get a license.
Nah 5 WPM is almost like not knowing morse code. It should either be little higher like 15, 20 WPM or no code requirement.
Having flash backs to living with my vietnam veteran uncle he said you are in man training you need to know things lol miss you uncle Sal
I miss ur uncle Sal too aparently
"Help, I've ran out of toilet paper and my bidet stopped working."
All fun and games till someone says "the river is yellow"
lmao, pick a random book at the library, any topic any shelf, pick a random page write down the sentence that stands out to you, rinse repeat, you now have a randomized seed to pull passwords from. best tip...burn after memorizing.
burn the library?
@@Blox117 no, the sentences you copy over from random books to a sheet of paper. the list on the single page of paper is what you burn, not the library.
@@KJ-xt3yu Its kinda too late now... Any instructions what to do if one is arrested for arson?
That is a really cool little device. Having it autorepeat and be double sided for dots and dashes is SO simple, I can't believe I never conceived of such a thing!
Thanks for sharing, even if you did say that about my mum
Yankee morse keys in WWII were double sided. It's faster, but I gather fingerprinting to identify the operator was easier, and once you knew the operator you could track his unit. My Grandfather was an Electrical Artificer (Radio) and got a medal for sinking a battleship in WWI... while he was still in harbour. You don't need to understand code to get useful int from it.
It's also much easier to use over longer distances because of the binary nature of it. It's making a square wave with no modulation. It's the absolute peak transmission power, and easier to decipher on the other end vs voice at the extreme range.
Not to mention you can use a spark gap and actually push some decent output in an absolute emergency.
“No one would know what this means in SHTF anyway!”
He said " babe im out of beer. Can you please stop and grab a case on your way home from work?😂
Morse is a known/public code so it's fair game to use. It's illegal to use secret codes over public ham radio frequencies without a special license for a specific use on a specified site.
Software defined radio can decipher morse, but the looser, or less consistent your speed, the harder it is for normal software to decode. Not breaking any rules though.
@FuckUA-cam-bz4zkconstitution says nothing about the airwaves, it's a government controlled operation, and it's strictly managed, it's why jammers are caught so fast and so effectively. As soon as you mess with the air waves, you ruin an entire infrastructure, you MUST follow the rules when broadcasting
@FuckUA-cam-bz4zkbeen dead for centuries
@FuckUA-cam-bz4zk the courts overrule the (US) constitution
Amen, say what we want, in whatever manner we wish, because we can.
@FuckUA-cam-bz4zk that's not how radio works, you have to play by the rules. It's considered a broadcast which puts it under the FCC, it's not public speech, it's the same as radio, you have to play by the rules, even when it's government
So that's how Darude got the idea for "Sandstorm"...
An old family friend who I ended up working for was a wireless operator in the sub mariners.
It must have been 30 years since he had done it for real but he could still work the key so fast that if I hadnt seen him with my own eyes I would have thought it was computer generated and he still got annoyed with himself because he knew he was off his old speeds.
I wonder how many people would have been able to keep up with him even then at his slower rate.
Obviously people are still learning it and maybe the keys are better now but I'm guessing that his job would have required him to be considered better than most at a time when the competition would have been much higher.
Theres probably very few people who reach those standards now?
I used to love hearing the storys of him being on the old diesel-electric submarines during the cold war.
RIP Louis
I'm no expert, but I think he wanted to inform us about our cars extended warranty
Interesting antenna choice with the horizontal dipole.
I bet he could play Sandstorm on that.
aww hell nah, bro got the ghost detector from ghost busters
New Genre: Ecto-spasm Bleepin; techno bleep blep
He said “send nudes” in Morse code. You’re welcome.
He just ordered dominos. 2 xlg pep with mushroom light sauce. Bottle of pepsi
Pepsi, ouch, man this was so cool until.. duh duh duhnn :)
"Most people can't understand it."
ChatGPT "Hold my beer"
Security by obscurity, one of the first thing any security professional is taught not to do.
He said, “I need mo beer.”
Well you have convinced me to start learning Morse code. It’s definitely more difficult than it seams.
Im so sorry for this.
Seems.**
We all knew the "typo" - & .. it isn't SO difficult to memorise alphabet & numbers & a few diacritical marks. Then go to speeds ... 10 words per minute & beyond.
Few months & your autonomic system'l do it automatically.
Homies like, "blick the black kid at 200 meters"
Im "like what is this dubstep" 😂
This is the guy praying for the day someone says "I think that's morse code, can anyone decipher?"
🙋🏾♂️I can read it quite well, it was part of my career but not that fast BUT I have several friends who it was their job to read it that fast😁😁 Slowing it down messed them up
Not only one of the oldest form of encrypted message, the standard Morse communication also involved one of the oldest form of data compression to allow faster rate. For example, if you want to simply call random strangers over the airwaves into contact, simply say CQ CQ repeatedly. If you want to "end the call", simply say 73. Basically almost each words or sentences has their own abbreviation or codes.
It's not 'encrypted'; it is merely 'encoded'
73 is greetings, it's *polite* to include when ending the call but technically not needed,
Yes and the operators could tell one another apart by their 'style' or personal morse "accent".
Dudes playing sandstorm with the morsecode.
Thought man was about to start playing the most lit Darude Sandstorm ever
It would be trivial to write an iphone app that would 1) record the entire audio being sent 2) decode it real time with a high degree of accuracy.
Actually, #2 is incredibly difficult for machines to do, even now. Humans are too idiosyncratic for them.
@@PatrickKQ4HBD #2 already exists for anyone to use for free... It's dots and dashes(or quick sound and longer sound...), it's pretty easy to make software for
@@PatrickKQ4HBD There's several android apps that do it. I've only used one and it hasn't been updated in 3 years. It's still about 95% accurate as long as there isn't too much background noise.
CW is not “security through obscurity” in any way. MOST people will recognize it, especially if they know enough to listen to an amateur band, and there are many apps you can play a recording into and have it give you the plain text.
Most people don't even have radios, so technically just transmitting over radio is already security through obscurity, but then even amongst ham radio operators today from what I can tell less and less of them are capable of understanding Morse code without needing such apps, and if you are faint enough with your broadcasting, even if someone was listening to the correct frequency, they might not recognize that a broadcast is happening, especially if you were out putting a low enough power. So I would argue this is one of the finest examples of security through obscurity, two people in the know figuring it out is a matter of getting a radio, but do people who don't know and don't necessarily know where to ask, figuring it out is quite the daunting challenge.
If you’re wondering, he was ordering a pepperoni pizza.
Anyone else waiting for it to just develop and drop into "satisfaction"
Where do I get that
My Morse code is a little rusty but I'm pretty sure he said, "fuck Joe Biden".
i put it thru a program and it says
E E 5 O H I O C Q G C Q D L 9 T X D L 9 T X
I heard "let's go Brandon" - NASCAR
@@logan4215 based
@@severinghamsserious ?
@@Probabilityislife hundred percent. joe biden can't even remember when he was vice president.
I can send fluent morse code with punctuation too, but i can’t decipher it for the life of me. I cant hear it
I honestly expected Sandstorm to start playing
And then there's binary that even fewer know
Binary is soooooooo easy compared to this
@@LightwalkerN7no one codes in binary 😂
@@LockDOTspotI don’t think they meant coding, but rather just knowing the number system and how it functions.
I’d say more people know binary than base 8, or hexadecimal
@@beck3319I hate hexadecimals hahaha
Tons of people know binary. Moreso than Morse code for sure. It's extremely simple. If you mean decode ascii, that's never really been a requirement of communication. The computer does it for you. Even back when terminals were literally typewriters hooked up to a computer.
That beep was 🔥
my grandpa in the other room just woke up screaming "WHERE IS MY GUN!?"
translation in the top corner says "laughter" ^^
They really should have taught us morse code in school, along with how to do our taxes and *cursive* again
And how to cash your first paycheck (I had a friend call me up for that 2 weeks after graduation, he didn't even know his check from the stub!)
And Roman numerals..
@@Hogla287
Let’s say you’re in an emergency situation (such as on a life raft or lost in a forrest ) and you need to communicate for help.
With morse code you comunicate with light flashes, smoke, or via a small survival transmitter.
Morse code would be extremely helpful in preventing deaths
Why? How often have you needed it?
@@Bobsmith-yf9oy
The people who needed to know it most aren’t alive to reply to your comment because they didn’t know morse code and therefore weren’t rescued to tell their tale.
Your logic is like asking:
How often have you used a parachute?
So because you’ve never used one, they’re not important right?
being able to read and bang numbers together theoretically fixes the tax thing. oh wait, kids these days have terrible reading and arithmetic scores? oops…
А что это за антенна интересная?
A strong gust of wind is going to snap that antenna right off
literally the easyest to decode
Thanks for the inspiration. My next project will be a Morse to English translation app. Oh, nm. There's already a bunch of them.
Like every great idea I've ever had, it's already been done and better.
I need this thingy.
I’m trying to figure out what it is 😂 I can’t find it online.
@@lukepippin4781its a amateur radio that has modded firmware. The radio is a quensheng uv-5k. The paddle is unknown
It's probably homemade if you want me to be honest with you
I'm surprised he doesn't think there is a smartphone app for this by now.
very cool device - last time i work morse code was nearly 40 years ago. i was a radio operator in my military service time. maybe i should try to learn it again . . .
Only works against people who can’t use computer
This is not an example of security by obscurity. This was the most common form of telecommunication for a significant amount of time.
I could make a very strong argument for voice radio being security through obscurity. All security through obscurity means, is to anyone not in the know figuring out how to bypass your security setup is quite difficult, to people who know dealing with your security measures is quite easy. You could also technically make the argument that a cell phone call is security through obscurity because they are basically unencrypted.
crazy. i was just today talking with my dad about how to increase cyber security for very private networks by using older generations of tech or protocols. since most old stuff is not compatible with new tech anymore
“The chair is against the wall…the chair is against the wall…the ch”
A computer can easily decipher this.
Yeah, pretty sure they're are apps that will do it on your phone.
Ok, What's your point? Morse code decrypted only to discover everyone is talking in code because lesson 1 of opsec is quite literally "one is none, two is one"
@@Div1ne_1 my point is it's not obscure, it's definitely not secure.
You could just decrypt by using one of the mobile apps, or just recording and passing it back through decryption.
@@-Good4Y0u One-time pads are still used to this day for communicating with spies all round the world via number stations. Morse works too.
@@-Good4Y0uand that's kind of what security through obscurity means, It means that to anyone who knows what your security setup is, getting past it is hardly a challenge, If you are in North America, the vast majority of locks available on store shelves can be bypassed without you needing any more tools than shimstock and tin snips, but I would be willing to bet money that you would actually call these products security devices. Even though with my knowledge level I could get through those a lot easier than I could decode Morse code
Security by obscurity is a meme, anyone could be listening and recording that message, making it a simple google to decode
What if you developed your own cipher that was only shared between you and the contact?
@@gridbasedotnetmore effective to send properly encrypted (RSA) data, but that’s illegal on every amateur/public frequency (at least here in the US). But there’s a lot more people that know Morse than you think.
@crd716 how is it more effective then if you can’t use it on HAM bands. Lol.
nothing can stop you from developing your own personal cryptographic dictionary using Morse style technics. Then make that a part of your SOPs with the RTOs of your team.
That is actually the most effective thing to do. Especially for someone just looking to get off the ground with things.
Incorporate a mathematical formula for scheduled signal hopping and you’re dark as can be.
@@gridbasedotnet It's about as effective if not more effective than yours, since both are illegal. Check Part 97.113 (a)(4) and realize any encoding or obfuscation is illegal. Alternatively, realize that if your signals aren't constant and just look like noise to an outside observer that nobody will probably care.
There are certainly many ways to skin the cat of encryption. I would argue that obscuring Morse code as a means of “encryption” is far less detectable or, likely to be reported, than a clearly encrypted digital signal over the airwaves. As always, each line has their place and time. I don’t think one is better than the other as much as I believe it’s dependent on who you’re trying to talk to, what their radio set up is, what their proficiency level with said radios is, and a myriad of other factors. But, at the end of the day GRIDBASE is always trying to demonstrate out of the box methods for tackling this issue. I want to present creative alternatives and solutions in the event someone lacks the time, money, knowledge, or other resources to understand and effectively use the Encryption features that are available on the market today.
Is that a commercial device or homebrew? I love it!
He said, "im your new step dad" in morse code
I was at a retirement home making a delivery and all of a sudden everybody jumped on the floor
Nice toy but impractical.
Sad ham
Wrong CW works & still being used by Amateur Radio Operator.
@MRRice-wz3bv who said CW didn’t work or wasn’t still being used by Operators?
Can the uploader or someone in the comments list the equipment he is using ? Seems super cool and fascinating
"The big cat is in the garage." "The General wears a blue tie."
Starts intensely playing sandstorm.
There are probably phone apps that can easily decode Morse.
You are correct that most people cannot decipher morse code, but 'Security by Obscurity' in THIS case should be an admission you yourself have not accomplished security, and NOT that you've found an ultra-secure means of communication.
The people you really want to worry about when it comes to security definitely know morse code.
Kerckhoff's principle: In assessing the security of a cryptosystem, one should always assume the enemy knows the method being used.