What Exactly Are Boilerplate Spacecraft?
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I have a cool boilerplate Apollo story for you. When I was 7 or 8 years old I lived by NAS Norfolk where some of the Apollo water training was going on. They had a storage area they put them in that was out doors and had no fence so anyone walking by could take a look at them, even touch them if you wished. As a kid, we would always try to climb up to the top on them, sometimes with success. One time the Blue Angels were in town performing and so in order to see them better I thought I would go try to scale a BP and watch the routine from the top of it. I got there and and there was only one BP there which happened to have a rope attached to the top somewhere so I climbed up it and watched the Blue Angels performance. That was in 1969 and it was outstanding, a memory that shall last a lifetime!
Silver UA-cam button looking gooooood.
Wow, two of my favorite UA-camrs in the same video ! =)
Thank you so much for showing Little Joe and the Launch Escape System boiler plate... that test and the associate video has always impressed me, especially how the test failure actually turned out to be the best possible test of the LES.
Amy, I used to volunteer, a lot, at the Air Zoo in Kalamazoo, MI. The Air Zoo has a connection to the Smithsonian is able to display items, from storage, that would normally never see the light of day. They have the only remaining Curtis XP-55 and a boiler plate Gemini (?). I remember being told it was used for drop tests and had been nicknamed "El Kabong". My job was making an accurate tracing of the NASA stencils/paint work so that it could be put back on later, after cleaning/painting. We used clear acetate (?) for me to draw on getting every detail. The acetate sheets were located using door edges, seams, bolts, etc. (I had the same job on the XP-55) A VERY impressive laminated wood cradle was made for this BP by another volunteer.
I love this channel. When I was 10 space flight was all I though about. My brother & I had all the Revell models, followed all the launches and read everything we could find about NASA and the missions. We both belonged to the ‘Man in Space’ club. Every month we received a booklet with paste in pictures and tons of NASA info. The 1960s....a great time to be a science nerd kid!
The Pegasus missions with the micrometeor arrays inside of the mock SM really attracted my attention when I first read about them a few years back. One of my favorite parts about the Apollo program in particular is how they extracted as much science and engineering data as possible from a single launch, and the Pegasus missions felt like a perfect example of this.
Amy, your videos are really informative. Instead of going through multiple sources over internet, watching one video of yours answers my question. Keep bringing these videos.
Hey, Amy, I used to think I was a space geek, but you keep coming up with these gems. Keep up the good work.
I have your book in my reading list, I'll get to it soon.
Cheers, and thanks so much for your kind words! #TeamSpaceGeek
Randall Mars Well I used to think I was a space nerd ..eh apparently I still am
I used to fly B-52s and have a friend who flew the NASA one. It never ceases to amaze me: the crazy ideas people had to use them for oddball tasks.
We had a boilerplate (Apollo) spacecraft at our high school growing up. We also had a planetarium in the school. We would take preschool and kindergarten kids on a trip to the moon via the planetarium (and an AWESOME) earthrise mural we kept hidden behind a curtain until we 'arrived' on the moon.
Last fall my family and I visited Meteor Crater in Winslow Arizona and saw Apollo Boiler Plate #29. It is very interesting to get a more complete description of all of the Apollo Boiler Plates. Thanks, Amy!
The stuff you're doing is more interesting than what's on NASA TV. Keep up the good work!
Ordered your book via Amazon yesterday.....can't wait to get it!
Have you done a video on Sea Dragon? My favorite rocket :-)
Maybe compare it to the other giant rockets planned in the early 60s before Lunar Orbit Rendezvous was selected. Maybe also compare it to SpaceX ITS, they are on the same scale.
Do you know where the term "Boiler Plate" came from? It is a newspaper term. In the old days of letter press printing press, they would set type for articles. Graphics that were repeated a lot, like the mast head and some ads were etched into steel plates. This steel was commonly know as boiler plate, because making boilers was it's most common use. But in newspapers, the term came to mean something that was repeated the same way. It remains as an expression for a repeated standard, like a boiler plate contract.
Boiler plate, can also refer to the metal to make boilers. I think the term here refers to rough copies made out of crude metal.
Learned something today . I always thought it was an old term from Steam Locomotives , the Boiler Plate had all the Gauges and Controls on it . Made sense to me . Thanks for the info .
Yes that's exactly what I am saying. Heavy plate steel in the 1890's was called boiler plate because it was usually used for making boilers. But they still called it that even when it was used for something else. Like someone today might say they used telephone poles to build a bridge. But the way it became an expression was in the use of steel printing blocks in the newspaper industry. I just googled the expression and here is how What.com defined it:
"A boilerplate can be compared to a certain kind of template, which can be thought of as a fill-in-the-blanks boilerplate. Some typical boilerplates include: mission statements, safety warnings, commonly used installation procedures, copyright statements, and responsibility disclaimers."
Great Vid! they did A LOT of dynamic and destructive tests with these mockups. Most people don't realize it is impossible to know how safe something is unless you know when something will fail or break.
I love you! Your enthusiasm is contagious.
Another great video, Amy! This is definitely one of my favorite channels.
Amy, as we all know the Saturn V is everyone's favorite. I would love to see a video of cool things about the Saturn V that the casual Apollo fan may not know.
Love your channel Amy! You answer many questions i also have, keep up the good work!
And i don't know...but you got something......i call it "cuteness"
any i have learned and enjoyed doing so much more from you than any one i can remember. thanks!
I'd never even heard of these before this video-- fascinating! Thanks Amy!
I saw you on a Netflix documentary yesterday. I was like: "Guys ! I'm subbed to her on youtube!"
You never cease to amaze me
Never heard of boiler plate modules. So very cool. Thanks Amy.
Another great vintage story, thanks Amy.
I'm so glad Scott Manley introduced me to your channel, great presentation, research and material! Can't wait for you to cover the Pegasus meteor satellite :)
I didn't know that I needed this in my life but I'm so glad it is
Excellent work as always, Amy. I can't imagine why anybody would downvote your videos.
Why did it take me so long to find this channel? You're amazing! Space Geek pride!
Hey guys.
I drive TOUR Buses as my main job for a company in VA.Beach.
About a year ago, I took a trip to NASA LANGLEY RESEARCH CENTER in Hampton Virginia and I saw a couple of BOILER PLATE mock ups at Langley of the ORION ORBITAL VEHICLE!
One was pretty plain looking, and the other was a bit more detailed.
But both were pretty darn cool to see in person!
NERD SIDE NOTE.
On another trip, I went to NASA WALLOPS ISLAND, and saw a night time launch of a ORBITAL rocket from the Mid Atlantic Space Port.
And that was a SUPER COOL EXPERIENCE!
Anyway, Amy your videos are great!
Hi Amy. I know 2 accidents in Space perhaps interesting for a future video: 1. The broken off ascent engine arming switch in the Apollo 11 LM 2. The live TV disaster on Apollo 12 where Al Bean destroyed the TV camera on the moon and the public back on earth lose most interest in the second landing on the Moon.
Amy, I have learned so much about a program that I thought I knew fairly well. Thank you and stay classy!
William Campbell
Couldn't have said it better myself! I've been studying Apollo era NASA since the sixties, yet Amy is constantly bringing up details and footage that is new to me.
As always... awesome!
Thank You Amy you are so informative!!!❤️
Amy, have you read Mary Roach's Packing For Mars? She covers the less-glamorous side of space travel, like bathing and pooping. I no longer take gravity for granted.
I always wondered what those balloons at the top of the CM were for. Thank you! I learned something today.
I visited RAF Woodbridge in Suffolk, England back in 1987. At that time, Woodbridge was the home of the USAF 67Th ARRS squadron which operated HH-53 Jolly Green Giant helicopters.
They had been there for many years and during the Apollo era had been on standby to recover any Apollo Command Modules that might have splashed down in the Atlantic after a launch abort or perhaps landed off course following return from the moon.
Even as late as 1987,, nestled under the trees and tucked away in one corner of the airfield, was a dummy Apollo Command Module which I was told they had been allocated to the 67th so they could practice recovery operations.
The airfield closed in the early 1990s and I always wonder what happened to that historic Apollo artifact.
can you do a video on the orion program? I know it's modern, but it's not the shuttle
That's a hard one since, well, not sure how much program there is to talk about? I do want to dig into the decision to go back to blunt capsules as an Apollo parallel. That might be the way I bring up Orion, and might answer some of your questions!
That's exactly what I had in mind
well there was a orion project ... the one with nukes and so on....
Vintage Space what about the nuclear Orion project?
Perhaps a comparison between Apollo and Orion? I have always wondered how advanced Orion truly is compared to a program 50 years old...
Amy, thanks again for another great vintage space video. I look forward to the next.......
Mike
Excellent video!
You're great, great work, thanks!
Great episode. I knew about these but did not realize there were so many.
Great video, thanks!
Boilerplate 29 is on display at Meteor Crater in Arizona and you can walk right up to it and touch it! Unfortunately, you can't go/look inside of it, but it's a cool display at the 3/4 mile-wide crater in the ground created by a meteorite.
love your vids Amy 😀
Good stuff, Amy! I love the little-known but necessary development steps like these.
Agreed. And there's the added bonus that these sorts of engineering and procedural details tend to draw far less attention from the conspiracy nuts. Heck, things like Mercury, Gemini, the Deep Space Network, etcetera, all seem to be largely off their radar.
Yes. One thing I would like to see is if there is any archival footage of the "bomb-tests" to sort out the combustion instability issues with the F-1 as well as the LM ascent stage engine.
that was actually quite interesting, thank you
Nice vid
Your my favorite UA-camr
Thanks Amy!
Very good video! (as usual, of course :P)
Definitely look into some more of these, as I'd love you to do a video on some specific BPs.
JUST a week ago, I took a quick trip to Denver for only one day-- found the Wings Over The Rockies aircraft and space museum (located right in the middle of a nice residential part of town, with a B-52 parked right at a quiet little intersection!). While I was looking at all the somewhat dusty aircraft, there was a huge amount of banging and clanging going on-- well, the place was undergoing some renovation, so I didn't give it too much thought.
Until I got around to one corner of the hanger floor. There was a boiler plate Apollo test article. I walked around to find the hatch off and some poor couple of devils inside re-arranging the large metal weights that simulated various internal loads. Wang! Clang! Bang with very loud hammer blows.
That was a dedicated pair of volunteers.
I did not get the BP#-- too noisy. But it was fun seeing the real thing! (It strongly looked like BP#2 skin markings, the ground drop version...)
Small world, eh, Amy?
Their website says it's BP-1101A, used in floatation testing.
Ive been following you for a year or two and I've just seen you on impossible engineering on the yesterday channel. When was this shot I can't believe I hadn't seen it before. ^^
That is so cool!
Hey Amy, I really find your videos fascinating.
Itd be really interesting to know about technologies, which got their birth to facilitate space missions, and are now being used by day to day consumers.
Will love if you can cover those too..
My father was stationed at Langley AFB in the very early 1960's. There was a field there where NASA dumped their Mercury capsule boilerplates. So, as a kid, more than once I got to play astronaut in a real space capsule.
Excellent, thanks!
Can you do a talk about the differences between newer rockets like the Falcon 9 and the older ones like Titan and Saturn? And also maybe cover how they tested craft then and now and some of the rockets used for testing? Sorry not trying to give you an assignment lol I just enjoy your expertise. You are becoming my favorite space channel!
Thanks for the explonationan. NASA used the term Boilerplate on its media conference earlier this weekend and I thaught it refered to an spacecraft with an traditional round heatshield instead of a simplier test article. Thanks again. Johan
Thanks Amy, Never realized all these years those were all Boiler Plate craft! I'm sure that some, were what I would have called mock ups, however, I did not know the technical names or that they used so many of the BP's. I guess the capsules my friends and I made out of moving boxes when we were kids would been Boiler Plates as well, LOL...Again Thanks Amy for this and all your other work....
Learned something today!
Fascinating! Have you been able to find any footage of the emergency escape rocket tests?
My favorite boilerplate test was the unintended test of the LES during a Little Joe II launch. See the video "Apollo Launch Abort System Test" for full details.
I've already got it. It's among the boilerplate followup videos I've got planned!
Hey Amy, cheers as always on all the good info you share in these vids.
I do want to know more about the one time that the launch escape system was used during the joe launches...
I know it did actually activate once and carried the (I think it was a BP) craft safely as it should have... I don't remember much about it but I figured I would suggest it just in case...
Thanks as always for all the hard work you do for these videos!!!
I think ESA's IXV programme used a boilerplate model to test atmospheric flight behavior of the vehicle. This model was shown at ESTEC's open day in 2015.
Nice one Amy! One thing about the Apollo missions that I've always had trouble 'seeing' properly is the probe & drogue docking mechanism between CM and LM. The only footage Ive ever seen of the mechanism is a very short piece of footage of Michael Collins training with it, there's no sound and it doesn't really help me. Could you do something on this for us? Love the channel!
The one that has me curious is probably the Apollo boilerplate that's one of the hardest to find information on, including exactly which unit it was--the one used after the Apollo 1 fire for fire testing of command module interiors, both as part of the investigation, and to qualify the redesigned interior and materials for flight. Far as I know, even the Field Guide to American Spacecraft isn't sure which BP unit was used for that, though they've narrowed it down to a few that have been seen to have heavy fittings around the hatch and apex...
Hi Amy, fantastic video. And since you love the Apollo (and I do!), would you do about Apollo - Soyuz Test Project? Especially the docking adapter that used to connect the two spacecraft. Cheers!
Hey Amy, is it only me, hearing what I wanna hear, or did you ask to hit the "nerdification button" at the end? I find this hilarious! :D
Never even heard about Boilerplates before, so this was interesting.
Can you do a session on the CM and LM control panel layout and the apollo flight computer (including the 'noun'/'verb' input protocol). Thanks. Great channel BTW
I would love to see a video on launch pads, they seem more complicated than they should be
hey amy. Could you make a video about all the abandoned SSTO desings and their history and why none of them was actually really build. I`m talking about the dc-x/dc-y and the venturestar/x-33. I think these desings are very promising so why is none of them made real. Even they had tecnical problems, couldn`t they solve them with todays tec.
I hope you reach a lot of children, you'd be the favorite teacher anywhere.
BP-1227 with all the mystery attached to it would be a good episode topic.
Very good as always. Love to hear your thoughts about the movie I've just seen Hidden Figures. It was excellent. Tell us more when you can about it.
Have you considered doing a video on the Saturn V Mobile Service Structure? I've only seen a handful of pictures and 1-2 grainy UA-cam videos showing these things... seems like the MLP's and their fancy red umbilical arms get all the love.
I wish I could see that wall behind you a little better. Looks very cool.
Hey! How about doing something on the little joe rocket and how it came apart during an escape system test?
Hi Amy, and if you haven't already read "Packing For Mars" written by Mary Roach, do get a copy. I'm sure you'll love the book and the authors candor. Llllllooove your Vids.
There is a surviving Apollo boiler plate model siting in front of the Dairy Queen in franklin Pennsylvania. The owner bought it from a scrap yard and placed it to draw attention to his store.
Want to see an Apollo boilerplate, #1227? Come to Grand Rapids Michigan. It's sitting outside the public museum in downtown Grand Rapids.
I've often wondered if the new Gemini crew members actually prospects that tried out for Mercury, but were perhaps in the Top 20, or 15? For example: I've never heard if Jim Lovell, Frank Borman, or Neil Armstrong actually were participants in Mercury selection.
Love the bangs!
Can you do a video on the rations food on Apollo missions please or any of animals test launches
I have seen pictures of drills for stable 1 -2 positions for Apollo. But Gemini floated on its side. How did it achieve "right side up?"
There is an Apollo boilerplate (BP-1227) outside my local public museum (specifically the Roger B. Chaffee Planetarium) being used as a Time Capsule. Apparently it was lost at sea during a recovery training exercise in 1968 or early 1969, recovered by a Soviet fishing trawler (or disguised spy ship) off Gibraltar sometime during the June of 1969 and returned to the US in early September, 1970 (I've come across three different dates). And thats not all! According to Wikipedia (I know, I know. Not exactly credible), there might be some sort of secret agreement between the US and Russia to not disclose the details until 2021. Even if that last bit isn't true, BP-1227 has had quite an adventure.
Amy thanks for all you do. need to learn twitter. How can I get your book? also maybe get the complete model of Saturn 5 including cm and lm.??
Hey since I know your love for the shuttle, would the Enterprise qualify as being a BP for that program? Cheers!
O.K. Here's a silly question. I know about the Little Joe II rocket, but where was there ever a Big Joe rocket?
Keep on keepin on! Love tour vids!
Amy could you do a video about heat shields and the materials they are made of.
Vintage Space >>> Here is a related topic: One of the {unmanned} Little Joe test launches - with a boiler plate[?] Apollo [?] capsule, to test the Launch Escape System - had an PREMATURE LES TEST. Something in the control system of the Little Joe boster failed, and the rocket began an uncontrolled roll around its longitudinal axis. As the booster started breaking up, the automatic systems initiated the LES to ignite and pull the boiler plate capsule away BEFORE it was planned to happen in the flight at a higher altitude.
Hi. Just started watching these videos. I have a question about the docking between the command and lunar module ascent stages. I read in one book (The Manned Spaceflight Log I think) that on Apollo 9 the commander had such a difficult time docking the lunar module with the CM that on all subsequent flights the final docking would be performed by the CM pilot. I don't think I've ever read our heard that anywhere else, so I thought I would ask here. Has anyone else heard this? Amy?
Thanks
Lil Joe. I remember wanting to build an Estes (or century) model of that when I was a kid. But alas, I never did.
Amy what country spends the most on there space program and how much do they spend on it?
Keep up the great work. My wife is slowly turning jealous. :p
Nice!
Hi Amy, first of all thank you for your channel, I'm a big fan.
I have a question for you: considering the importance of saving the crew lives I understand why the Launch Escape System was developed but why isn't it used also on commercial flights with really expensive payload inside? I mean, for example in the Falcon 9 explosion of September the satellite only was 85 million $ worth, isn't it a right amount of money to justify a viable solution to save it?
Thanks for your time
Maybe this is a weird question, but:
If for some reason an Apollo capsule wound up in a storm after splashdown, what was the procedure?
Yes: I've always wanted to know how seaworthy the CM was if it ever had to be used as... a lifeboat.
There was a good bit of re-entry maneuverability built into the Gemini and Apollo capsules that would allow them to be "piloted off course" if need be. I don't know if this was ever needed to avoid bad weather, or to correct a bad de-orbit burn, but the ability DID exist.
The maneuvering possibility was there thanks to one Virgil I. (Gus) Grissom, engineer, original Mercury Astronaut, and frustrated test pilot who disliked being "Spam in a can". He had a lot of engineering input into the design of the Gemini...to the point where it was often referred to as "The Gus-Mobile" by his peers.
The center of gravity and center of pressure of both Gemini and Apollo were arranged such that rolling the spacecraft with small thrusters would cause aerodynamic forces to turn the craft left or right by small amounts...and pitching would add or subtract lift, allowing the craft to steepen its descent or "go long" by small amounts. As the re-entry took nearly half an orbit, these small amounts would add up to around a hundred miles on the ground.
Exactly as I described just above...Gemini and Apollo capsules were somewhat maneuverable.
I thought the nickname "Gus-mobile" came because Gus was the only one small enough to fit comfortably in the Gemini capsule :-)
The Man With The Hex 13 also had to change its recovery location because of a storm, but this was done with its final course correction burn.
"Aboot." 😉 Keep up the great videos!