Some notes: the Strix G18 was in turbo mode for cyberpunk tests. This is quieter than max fans and made the temps a bit hotter. The other tests were done on max fans on both laptops I believe.
Hey Gizmo, I found the G18 on Amazon sold by HID. I almost got it but cancelled my order after reading some sketchy reviews. So I ordered the m16 instead. Do you know anything about HID? $3100 g18 4080 32GB RAM, 2TB SSD. Not sure if it’s a good buy or not. Would love your opinion!!
In my experience, maintaining lower GPU temperatures can help extend the lifespan of your machine. If you're considering the M16, you can manage the CPU's power limit to maintain similar clock speeds while keeping temperatures lower. However, it's important to note that running games with a hot GPU can be problematic, as many games use the GPU heavily and not all of the CPU's cores. These CPUs are powerful, and it's unlikely that any game will fully utilize all of their cores in the next 2 -5 years. If you're aiming for a longer-lasting high perfomance machine, it's a good idea to keep an eye on your GPU temperatures. In my case, I've had laptops that lasted up to 5 years with no issues, as long as I kept the vents and fans clean and applied new thermal paste every year. As a general rule of thumb, try to avoid letting your GPU temperature exceed 80 degrees Celsius to ensure your machine runs like a champ
I think m16 has a better cooling system when it comes to gaming because cpu doesn't get broken easily even if it keeps high temparature but gpu, on the other hand, tends to get broken when thermal's too high
@@GizmoSlipTech Hey, Giz. Thanks for making all of these videos. Which laptop would you recommend, the ROG STRIX G18 or Alienware M18? I currently have the STRIX G18, but my laptop has pretty bad backlight bleeding, IPS glow, and some coil whine issues. I'm having a hard time deciding if I should just go with the STRIX or get the M18.
Honestly it’s very confusing because the Scar is pulling higher clock on both the CPU and GPU but does the Alienware somehow ends up showing higher average frames? The Asus got better temps too
What is going on, the M16 GPU is up to 20c cooler? That's gotta be a faulty thermal paste application, or in this case liquid metal. I'm rethinking the G18 after seeing this. Lol nevermind, the situation is reversed on the CPU side of things.
I agree man. Dealing with the massive stutters of the G15 6800m laptop GPU, stability is key. I play games on silent mode just to get stable experience. Peak performance be damned lol
It looks like a tie but even tho g18 is bigger laptop m16 runs a lot cooler on gpu side just a little bit hotter on cpu side. So regarding that m18 would have greater cooling it is fair to say that m18 wins in the cooling side.
@GizmoSlipTech Is the both brand ram is R1 X8? Also how is the command center? Does both of them support battery stop charging at certain level, such as 70%
Intel XTU raised power limits. Default alienware caps cpu at 55W, which crippled the cpu. I’m sure they will raise power limits in future software update
I wonder if the cooling difference would be alot less noticeable between the scar 16 and 18. I think the design for interior cooling for the asus line up is a bit different then alienwares.
@@ytac3900 true maybe m18 has better temps as it has a bigger chassie, . Will have to see when they test it in future. This comparison is between a 16 inch lap and 18 inch.
@@sampadkar19 Iam asking how is that possible? I know less GPU temp and more CPU temp for gaming laptops generally but the cpu of Alienware hit 100 while GPU was not that hot. How is that possible? Is it legit?
@@allstargaming2500 Probably the heatpipes are prioritizing the GPU. For example, maybe they start at GPU so are colder, then touch the CPU when they are already warm...
kind of lost what to choose between Alienware m16 Nvidia RTX 4070 for $1699 or the ASUS ROG Strix 18 RTX 4080 for $2199, is the RTX 4070 8 GB enough for gaming ?
Very interesting benchmark. I have the g16 13980hx rtx 470 version. Honestly the turbo mode is the worst for gaming. It gets less fps ans score than performance mode. I have manual oc my cpu now hits 35k multi score and 2185 single score cpu-z 911 single score. Cpu running most of the time between 5.4-5.6 ghz on all core temps around 85-90c
Was really hoping to upgrade to the M16, but those CPU temps are just too unstable and hot for my liking Guess ill just wait till the 4000 gpus go down in price
Hi guys just to let you know, right now that alienware M16, is on sale for 2199, in best buy, however, GPU's temps on M16 were Low, and TDP very good, in the otherhand the CPU was hot, but Undervolting is an option ;) , just saying, 2199, 200 dollars less, then ypu have to undervolt the cpu... is worth it, I have a alienware r15 2019, i7 9th 9750, with rtx 2060, the 9750 is one of the hottest cpu in laptop, but after 4 years, my AW still working, when I discovered that I was like, ok this laptop will be useless in 2 years, even with undervolting I got 95 C°, so is still working, AW laptops are fucking rude 😀, I hope my homest opinion could help you guys and save some money ;).
Hello, I want to buy a laptop for gaming and I usually connect to my 4k 144hz monitor. Now I'm comparing the Alienware m16 4090 with scar 16 4090. What do u recommend and do u think 13980hx is much worth than 13900hx?
Hello, I have come to your Chanel and have been very helpful GREAT WORK, I have to buy a new laptop for work, I do design stuff like rendering (30%), modeling (30%) and the rest is not demanding things like Microsoft, pdf etc… I have seen all the videos I might be interested and come to this 3 options, will like your input - the asus 18” (RTX 4080), 16" Legion Pro 7 16IRX8H (RTX 4080) and ASUS 16" ProArt Studiobook Pro 16 (Quadro RTX A3000).
I'm pretty sure at this point his Alienware M16 computer was shutting down due to overheating and that's why we have a "video cut off" here ( 09:54 ). I've been using Dell laptops since 2011 and I told myself I won't use Dell anymore because of the CPU overheating problem (CPU >= 100C) and the machine will automatically shut down regardless of whether you save your work or not, I even created an application to calculate the CPU and GPU temperature to make sure that I will save my work before my laptop shutdown unexpectedly by overheating. It causes big problems for game and app developers because when the machine shuts down due to overheating while the developer has not had time to back up anything. Today is 2023 and I still haven't seen any improvement for this problem from Dell.
I believe I'm in the minority here where I don't have to or want to play my games at the highest settings, the problem is all PC gamers want to play their games at 4k resolution with 300+ fps at ultra super extreme max settings and then they're wondering why their laptops are melting
excellent video, I love the design of the Asus and the Alienware but what annoys me is that they are very expensive with our new cooling technologies and still have high temperatures, I prefer to go for the new Asus TUF, HP OMEN or Acer
I am going to buy one of them but cannot decide, looks like m16 gets 100C cpu but better cooling on gpu also everyone say asus have bad coil whine also plastic chassis. Which one should I get ?
I would say it's the same. The perception of improvement of 1 - 10 FPS when you are at 100+ or 150+ fps is minimal. I would go with the Strix for better thermals and not having a flipped motherboard. That for me is a huge plus.
Nope , I bought the strix from Best Buy and returned it . The m16 way better cooling . ASUS did the strix wrong this time . Bout the m16 and won’t go back .
@@ОлегАнатольевич-щ1с No, you are clueless. They are literally outputting the same amount of workload in the benchmarks. Screen size has NOTHING to do with the results since the resolution is the same.
@@LundeSite Only after i seeing benchmark result in games such CP2077,H.Leg.,RDR2 i'll agreed with you,maybe i'm wrong,but until i d'not see this maching i will keep my opinion.
Alienware is the only one that has at home repairs. The others you need to send in for repairs. Also, Razer has always had people complaining of hardware problems.
So I will say I ended up buying the razer blade 16 because micro center has an in store repair warranty and I wanted a mini led or OLED screen and unfortunately alienware didn't have any. So far I'm really liking the blade 16. The biggest issue for me is that the keyboard is so much smaller than my previous alienware m15. But hopefully I'll get used to that
Some notes: the Strix G18 was in turbo mode for cyberpunk tests. This is quieter than max fans and made the temps a bit hotter. The other tests were done on max fans on both laptops I believe.
Hey Gizmo, I found the G18 on Amazon sold by HID. I almost got it but cancelled my order after reading some sketchy reviews. So I ordered the m16 instead.
Do you know anything about HID?
$3100 g18 4080 32GB RAM, 2TB SSD. Not sure if it’s a good buy or not. Would love your opinion!!
Alienware laptops are just too unreliable and have alot of QC issues in my experience.
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In my experience, maintaining lower GPU temperatures can help extend the lifespan of your machine. If you're considering the M16, you can manage the CPU's power limit to maintain similar clock speeds while keeping temperatures lower. However, it's important to note that running games with a hot GPU can be problematic, as many games use the GPU heavily and not all of the CPU's cores. These CPUs are powerful, and it's unlikely that any game will fully utilize all of their cores in the next 2 -5 years. If you're aiming for a longer-lasting high perfomance machine, it's a good idea to keep an eye on your GPU temperatures. In my case, I've had laptops that lasted up to 5 years with no issues, as long as I kept the vents and fans clean and applied new thermal paste every year. As a general rule of thumb, try to avoid letting your GPU temperature exceed 80 degrees Celsius to ensure your machine runs like a champ
How can you say cpu temp is not important as gpu temp?
I like more the balance of the G18, i dont like the 100C CPU spikes on the M16. Hope to see some MSI GT77 / GE78 tests like this.
Really interesting the M16 overall I seeing better performance and better thermals on GPU in a slightly small chassis
I think m16 has a better cooling system when it comes to gaming because cpu doesn't get broken easily even if it keeps high temparature but gpu, on the other hand, tends to get broken when thermal's too high
My 10 year old alienware had similar thermals. Very hot cpu but cool gpu. Guess that hasn't changed with the new models.
They are designed that way because the CPU can take higher thermal limits as indicated by intel manufacturing design specifications.
@@GizmoSlipTech So will this affect the performance of the CPU?
@@GizmoSlipTech Hey, Giz. Thanks for making all of these videos. Which laptop would you recommend, the ROG STRIX G18 or Alienware M18? I currently have the STRIX G18, but my laptop has pretty bad backlight bleeding, IPS glow, and some coil whine issues. I'm having a hard time deciding if I should just go with the STRIX or get the M18.
Honestly it’s very confusing because the Scar is pulling higher clock on both the CPU and GPU but does the Alienware somehow ends up showing higher average frames? The Asus got better temps too
RAM timings, Motherboard differences and bios tweaking I guess could provide these differences in performance
Might be some cheap ram that Asus is using
Asus got better temps? Am I seeing different GPU temp on this comparison? Alienware has way low temps compared to Asus here.
@@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ yeah also 4800MHZ
Memory speed differences, maybe?
I wonder if the Ryzen 9 CPU gets as hot as the i9 in the Alienware chassis.
Good question
The сpu Temps on the strix g18 are Insanely good compared to the m16
G18 has more thermal head room as it's a bigger i guess
Not really
@@TaxEvasionUSlike a 25% difference, so yeah really.
@@SpicyCactus Not really
What is going on, the M16 GPU is up to 20c cooler? That's gotta be a faulty thermal paste application, or in this case liquid metal. I'm rethinking the G18 after seeing this. Lol nevermind, the situation is reversed on the CPU side of things.
Ofc CPU will be hot it gets over 80 watt, its insane in games
The M16 has better 1% lows so I would say it is the winner. Pushing out more consistent frames. Not by much but they are more consistent.
I agree man. Dealing with the massive stutters of the G15 6800m laptop GPU, stability is key. I play games on silent mode just to get stable experience. Peak performance be damned lol
im impressed how M16 handle gpu temps, average 15 deg less than bigger asus.
Doesn't matter how well the GPU is doing if the CPU is a heat casualty.
Which one make less noise?
The m16 I had the strix , also the strix is plastic for the most part . Build quality on the m16 is like a tank
Both on max fans, the M16 is noiser imo. I haven't meansured with a db meter yet.
I wish they were actual 4080’s
Just barely ordered the g18 today. Itll get in next wednesday hopefully. So pumped.
How is it bro?
How you liking it man.
@@silverpro8356amazing laptop the screen is hude I love it tho the Gpu on mine gets very hot but it’s pulling 175 watts a lot
@@silverpro8356 Just picked mine up. Things perfect. I really wish the IO was on the back thats my only complaint.
Were they at the same noise levels? Or is the alienware pumping up more noise to get those temps?
M16 a bit noiser. Both at max fans for most of the tests, except the cyberpunk ones I think. The Strix G18 was on turbo fan mode for that one.
The gpu Temps on the m16 are Insanely good compared to the strix g18
feel that might be cpu limited as the cpu thermal throttles a bit and gpu doesn't need to work so hard
nah look at the cpu temps
Dude that’s because the 13900hx is drawing 90w.
It looks like a tie but even tho g18 is bigger laptop m16 runs a lot cooler on gpu side just a little bit hotter on cpu side. So regarding that m18 would have greater cooling it is fair to say that m18 wins in the cooling side.
@GizmoSlipTech
Is the both brand ram is R1 X8?
Also how is the command center? Does both of them support battery stop charging at certain level, such as 70%
Are these at regular settings or are you using the Intel XTU for the Alienware?
Intel XTU raised power limits. Default alienware caps cpu at 55W, which crippled the cpu. I’m sure they will raise power limits in future software update
@@GizmoSlipTech Cool, thank you, I am just debating whether to be the Alienware or Asus, what would you recommend personally?
@@TaxEvasionUS both have pros and cons, I do compare them a lot in the Alienware M16 livestream.
@@GizmoSlipTech Alright, I will still consider which one, but I am sorta leaning towards Alienware, thanks!
The thermals on the m16 way better , the g18 has many thermal problems . I returned the g18 gets way too hot .
I wonder if the cooling difference would be alot less noticeable between the scar 16 and 18. I think the design for interior cooling for the asus line up is a bit different then alienwares.
Alienware got the cooling right this time. Awesome laptop.
the cpu temp very often go up to 95-100
@@ytac3900 true maybe m18 has better temps as it has a bigger chassie, . Will have to see when they test it in future. This comparison is between a 16 inch lap and 18 inch.
@GizmoSlipTech
G18 screen seems to be darker than M16, quiet more in CSGO.... or that was the configuration? 🤔🤔
Will the strix g18 come with 4060 as well?
Yes, it should.
18inch chasis on G18 and the GPU temps are disappointing. Shocked to see M16 holding up despite shared heatpipes taking heat from CPU.
07:13 100°C
G18: both Temps are stable
M16: CPU Up, GPU down
Alienware even touches 100°C
Isn't that gonna be a problem? Like 100°C, that's insane however the GPU is actually cool. How is that possible?
@@allstargaming2500 GPU Temps are lower than CPU temps in every laptop. So that isn't a problem. managing CPU Temp is more important for me
@@sampadkar19 Iam asking how is that possible? I know less GPU temp and more CPU temp for gaming laptops generally but the cpu of Alienware hit 100 while GPU was not that hot. How is that possible? Is it legit?
@@allstargaming2500 maybe Alienware Designs Their System In Such a way
@@allstargaming2500 Probably the heatpipes are prioritizing the GPU. For example, maybe they start at GPU so are colder, then touch the CPU when they are already warm...
The GPU temp difference between these two laptops doesn't seem legit
It is surprisingly big gap. The Strix G18 didnt have max fans during cyberpunk test. It wss in turbo mode.
Why did you show only cpu power consumption of m16?
Afterburner wasnt working at first. I had to use hwinfo, which is why it works later
kind of lost what to choose between Alienware m16 Nvidia RTX 4070 for $1699 or the ASUS ROG Strix 18 RTX 4080 for $2199, is the RTX 4070 8 GB enough for gaming ?
i feel like the intel could get by at 3.5ghz-4ghz max tbh for better thermals in general
Very interesting benchmark. I have the g16 13980hx rtx 470 version. Honestly the turbo mode is the worst for gaming. It gets less fps ans score than performance mode. I have manual oc my cpu now hits 35k multi score and 2185 single score cpu-z 911 single score. Cpu running most of the time between 5.4-5.6 ghz on all core temps around 85-90c
That's the good thing with the 4070. You can get the max tdp on performance mode. For the 4080 and 4090, you need to use turbo to get 150w.
What about CPU power consumption?
@@hooda24ma depends on game. Can be between 60-140watts
GPU temperature is really alot different why ?
Was really hoping to upgrade to the M16, but those CPU temps are just too unstable and hot for my liking
Guess ill just wait till the 4000 gpus go down in price
ASUS Strix 18 (2023) I wonder xmp can be enabled on the bios? even if 4800mhz ? so i can use 4800mhz 34cl stiks?
Hi guys just to let you know, right now that alienware M16, is on sale for 2199, in best buy, however, GPU's temps on M16 were Low, and TDP very good, in the otherhand the CPU was hot, but Undervolting is an option ;) , just saying, 2199, 200 dollars less, then ypu have to undervolt the cpu... is worth it, I have a alienware r15 2019, i7 9th 9750, with rtx 2060, the 9750 is one of the hottest cpu in laptop, but after 4 years, my AW still working, when I discovered that I was like, ok this laptop will be useless in 2 years, even with undervolting I got 95 C°, so is still working, AW laptops are fucking rude 😀, I hope my homest opinion could help you guys and save some money ;).
Hello, I want to buy a laptop for gaming and I usually connect to my 4k 144hz monitor. Now I'm comparing the Alienware m16 4090 with scar 16 4090. What do u recommend and do u think 13980hx is much worth than 13900hx?
Which has a better perfomance🤣
Thanks for the info
How comes the x16 in gpu heavy scenarios has more fps? I thought asus has bigger specs and better cooling
Depends on a lot of factors. New deivers, memory speed, and fan profiles all matter a lot. Also, got to make sure all graphics settings are the same.
How is the real winner 🏆 I still don't understand
Hello, I have come to your Chanel and have been very helpful GREAT WORK, I have to buy a new laptop for work, I do design stuff like rendering (30%), modeling (30%) and the rest is not demanding things like Microsoft, pdf etc… I have seen all the videos I might be interested and come to this 3 options, will like your input - the asus 18” (RTX 4080), 16" Legion Pro 7 16IRX8H (RTX 4080) and ASUS 16" ProArt Studiobook Pro 16 (Quadro RTX A3000).
I’d go Strix G18 for the quality of the display and best buy warranty plans. Not sure about the proart. Not familiar enough with pricing
I'm pretty sure at this point his Alienware M16 computer was shutting down due to overheating and that's why we have a "video cut off" here ( 09:54 ). I've been using Dell laptops since 2011 and I told myself I won't use Dell anymore because of the CPU overheating problem (CPU >= 100C) and the machine will automatically shut down regardless of whether you save your work or not, I even created an application to calculate the CPU and GPU temperature to make sure that I will save my work before my laptop shutdown unexpectedly by overheating.
It causes big problems for game and app developers because when the machine shuts down due to overheating while the developer has not had time to back up anything.
Today is 2023 and I still haven't seen any improvement for this problem from Dell.
CPU temps too high on alienware... No go for me
Undervolt gpu on asus rog scar 18 give you higher frequency 2500..2700MHz with higher performance and lower consumption and temps.
I believe I'm in the minority here where I don't have to or want to play my games at the highest settings, the problem is all PC gamers want to play their games at 4k resolution with 300+ fps at ultra super extreme max settings and then they're wondering why their laptops are melting
No music plz
excellent video, I love the design of the Asus and the Alienware but what annoys me is that they are very expensive with our new cooling technologies and still have high temperatures, I prefer to go for the new Asus TUF, HP OMEN or Acer
I am wondering why are we comparing g18 to m16. M18 should be better as it has more space for cooling
It was the laptop that was available to buy and get in hand.
do u buy laptops with your own money
yes, most of the time. Sometimes not though...
Now this gonna be dope
Temps on M16 is nice.
Alienware temperature for GPU is way low, WoW
I am going to buy one of them but cannot decide, looks like m16 gets 100C cpu but better cooling on gpu also everyone say asus have bad coil whine also plastic chassis. Which one should I get ?
What did you do because i am confused 😢
@@AMBITION6176 I've decided to buy the Asus but not yet ordered one, I am trying to get a proper store pickup date
@@mehmetozturk771 do you know any better laptop in the same price with rtx 4080
Legion 😆
Why not compare to an m18?
Waiting my order to arrive
@@GizmoSlipTech same here!
Hey dude what 16 inches would you get for maximum performance and quiet gameplay. 4K budget. I’m thinking either the x16 Alienware of blade 16
G18 gets hotter than the M16
What about CPU?
@@sampadkar19 The CPU does get hotter but does drop in most games, unlike the G18 which the GPU stays hot
@@churchofsatan2041 well, the G18 didn't throttle though, the M16 did. Still impressive for a smaller chassis
Yes the cooling system is much better on alienware so it's worth the money
@@edvardcarrera4232 what do you mean by Much better when Asus Has Lower CPU Temps
I would say it's the same. The perception of improvement of 1 - 10 FPS when you are at 100+ or 150+ fps is minimal. I would go with the Strix for better thermals and not having a flipped motherboard. That for me is a huge plus.
The thermals are worse on asus
Did we see the same video? The thermals on the strix isn’t better.
Nope , I bought the strix from Best Buy and returned it . The m16 way better cooling . ASUS did the strix wrong this time . Bout the m16 and won’t go back .
@@lilsou You missed the M16 CPU hitting 90-100C and throttling the fps hard?
My two brothers has Alienwares. Always on 100C. A lot of thermal throttling. 3070 models. Loud and hot.
Alienware pulls ahead due to ram. Bet.
The m16 is $200 more expensive. now 2799
What are your thoughts on the temps?? Strix was 15 more than Alienware for GPU, but Strix was 10 less than alienware for CPU.
I got the 2023 strix G18 4080 version for $1200. Is that a good price and value?
M16 performs grt in temp, amazing,
Look at CPU temps, it's maxing out
dont buy alienware m16, mine after 6 months used always crashed even just to play youtube shorts..definitely something problem with its gpu
Alienware laptops are just too unreliable and have alot of QC issues in my experience.
Alienware stuttering bad in apex, the 1% lows are bad
alienware always has overheating issue.
More corect will be maching Strix G16 vs Alnw M16 or Strix G18 vs Alnw M18,because the smaller screen will be little more perfomance then bigest.
The benchmarks are run at the same resolution. Screen size doesn't matter in this case.
@@LundeSite Its matter,that why beter to mach and see,or can check at G16 vs G18 or M16 vs M18 with same GPU
@@ОлегАнатольевич-щ1с No, you are clueless. They are literally outputting the same amount of workload in the benchmarks. Screen size has NOTHING to do with the results since the resolution is the same.
@@LundeSite Only after i seeing benchmark result in games such CP2077,H.Leg.,RDR2 i'll agreed with you,maybe i'm wrong,but until i d'not see this maching i will keep my opinion.
@stokestwins62 I'm sorry for my English (I'm Ukrainian), but I didn't understand what you meant)))🤷🏻♂️
Nice
So... Alienware won, nice!
M16 has horrible 1% lows
M16 runs cooler and better
Who still buy Alienware? You go to Razer for MacBook look and Lenovo and ASUS for high quality
Alienware is the only one that has at home repairs. The others you need to send in for repairs. Also, Razer has always had people complaining of hardware problems.
Alienware are for those that have the other company are for those that don’t
So I will say I ended up buying the razer blade 16 because micro center has an in store repair warranty and I wanted a mini led or OLED screen and unfortunately alienware didn't have any. So far I'm really liking the blade 16. The biggest issue for me is that the keyboard is so much smaller than my previous alienware m15. But hopefully I'll get used to that
@@rsjet how about razer performance,many people says its low than the other,its true?