I guess him not being in the house and not seeing his family really affected him. Comparing seasons 1 and 2, it seemed more like the writers didn't really have a plan for the character anymore, so they just threw him cheating on his wife last minute. What was in season 1 possessed by a kryptonian? Then season 2 cheating really a downfall for the character
It's really easy to make a deadbeat mom/dad amid a divorce when one character has more rank than the other. I'm amazed they make him as good of a guy as they do.
I think they handled this topic very well. They showed Both were wrong. What Sara said did not make getting slapped okay, but getting slapped does not make what she said okay. Neither should have lashed out at the other.
The writing is incredible. Relatable characters, realistic flaws (superhero/supervillain shenanigans notwithstanding), and where some shows might take it in a darker direction, the characters model healthy ways to deal with emotional and relational problems. This is a show about families that happens to have Superman in it.
Damn, "everythings changed" and "I just see Mom differently" really hits me deep coming from a divorced family. At least Her parents are civil with each other unlike mine. I know this is just a show but yeah her actions just sums up how I constantly feel...
Parents must understand that their actions have consequences, not just for themselves, but for their children as well. And children of divorce are going to be especially volatile, which is to be expected when the normalcy they grew up with suddenly gets shattered in ways nobody prepared them for. That's why I'm glad to see Kyle did not try to excuse or downplay his own role in how all this came about; he took responsibility, like a GROWN-UP is supposed to do. And in his own taking responsibility, he's helping his ex-wife and daughter to take responsibility for their own negatives as well.
I got to say Kyle is definitely dad of the year. And this is the most messed up harsh reality I’ve ever seen when it comes to marriage or just relationships period. It doesn’t matter how good of a father you are, even how good of a husband you are. For whatever reason she doesn’t want you anymore your wife or your significant other. The title doesn’t matter the actions do. You’re forever an outsider. Spending weekends with your children instead of every single day with them. That’s not fair. I find Kyle‘s story very interesting. He started off really as a pathetic loser not gonna lie. Wallowing in self-pity. He lost his wife he lost certain connection with his children. And in doing so, he became the best version of himself ever. This show is amazing. Cuz a lot of the themes behind it are real.
I don't know if it was ever explained why Kyle cheated on Lana. In this case, it was his fault that the marriage ended. Some men are victims of divorce after they did everything right. Unfortunately, love isn't always enough to survive for a marriage to survive after an affair.
I hope you don't have/won't have children if this is your mindset "Kyle is definitely dad of the year", you a second later "it doesn't matter how good a father you are". Dude with two children cheats on his wife. And has a job(firefighter) that requires him to work multiple day long shifts. And you say it's "not fair" that the dude who cheats on his wife and has a job that requires at the LEAST the majority of an entire day away from his home doesn't get custody for 5 days a week of two minor children? Don't breed dude. Don't.
Sarah shouldn’t have said what she said to Lana, but Lana shouldn’t have slapped her. Teenagers normally get into arguments with their parents, it’s 100% normal, but parents shouldn’t act out and hurt their children like that either. And when they do, it can cut deeper than any words said, because it’s a physical reaction and because the kid can be very hurt, not physically but emotionally and mentally, from that. Sure, some parents spank their kids as punishment for their actions, but a slap to the face is very different, especially if it’s made in anger. Lana knows this because of her abusive upbringing, which is why she felt horrible about it because she felt like it was the first step toward becoming the mom she had, which she NEVER wants either of her daughters to experience
No parent is perfect unfortunately every parent's snaps eventually especially when they reach a breaking point and lose the patients with there kid there is only so much tolerance a parent can have being disrespected by her kid on top of that she comes off saying stuff about her parents marriage that's between husband and wife nobody is throwing the fact that she tried killing herself in season 1 in her face to hurt her like she did when she mentioned her dad cheating to her Mom. Lana didnt just up and slap her the breaking point came when Sarah mentioned affair.. lana reacted.. i dont believe in beating the crap out of you kid. But i do believe in a hand across the ass. BUT EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND HAS DIFFERENT OPINIONS WHICH THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THIS IS JUST MY OWN
Well I'm glad I grew up hating my mother who hated my father who drove him away blah blah blah second of all I never knew the reason why I was here on this f****** the Earth 🌎 that's the thing about apparent when they reach a certain point they don't feel like they got to explain nothing to you sorry what was the reason behind me being born on this f****** Earth to do what? And one day after so many years of my mother beating my ass I struck back and I enjoyed it and I loved it keyport hot water on my ass can I have the run for the house had to run out in agony but that was good 👍 I learn to stand on my feet it was time to go it was difficult would it made me the man I am today and I'm glad of it hello children and I'm glad of it in raising a child with a female woman f*** a b****there will be no blood line after when I'm gone that's it I am the first and the last and besides I got brothers and sisters so I let them do all the f****** in the breeding having brats after themselves I'm not interested my sister told me one time don't you want to see your nieces and nephews I said the white picket fence of your b******* and that other f****** that I don't want to like but I want to kill him if I ever see him my half-brother is not my idea I can care less about you anybody else and I told her I see you stay where you at and I'm going to stay where I'm at another state 30 years ago only when I send it on the telephone
Then why did Lana put Sarah between her divorce with Kyle? Asking her "what did you tell your father?" "Did you tell her about me and Henry?" "Be careful what you tell to your father about me?" Lana put her daughter in the worst place a child can ever be put. Between a divorce. Since Sarah is now in between she gets to speak her mind. Simple as that
@@The_Memorial no she didnt attack Sarah. I think we are coming from different places. Agree to disagree. As far as I’m concerned, She deserves that slap. It’s the only thing that finally shut her up. That’ll learn her.
All this cause the girl got slapped for having a smart mouth. Kids need to be disciplined, the occasional slap to the mouth or spanking. But there is a line between discipline and abuse.
@StareachValcin I'm not a fan of sarah either the fact that Kyle telling she shouldn't never that to lana all can think is her self and hate lana had to apologize for the fact that she being disrespectful to her I can't I don't like her character at all.
She's so manipulative and tries to make herself the victim all the time. She doesn't give a crap that she hurt her mother. All she gives is attitude all the time.
@@thescream18 She’s not manipulative yes the way she treated her mom was wrong but Lana was wrong for slapping in the face and in case you haven’t noticed Sarah is still trying to adjust to her new normal with her parents being divorced and all so give her a break
I thought the slap was wrong, but whoever wrote the portrayal of Sarah was terrible too I mean no matter what your kid says no 1 deserves to be slapped but at the same time as I said idiotic writing, for example when she was in the dark about Jordan and his excuse was family emergency and she said she wanted to be put 1st I am like oookkaayy put 1st before his family that made a lot of not sense.
Before the show began. It's mentioned in the pilot that she's on medication because she tried to take her own life the year prior. It's why her parents were so strict/overprotective toward her for most of the show, and it's explicitly why Kyle stopped his affair. Their constant fights almost cost them their daughter and they were scared it could happen again.
We need to bring back corporal pubishment. Suddenly it's not okay to discipline your own child for stepping out of line in the way that you see fit as the parent? BS.
It is not okay. You aren’t disciplining anything. You are just assaulting someone which could normally have you charged and arrested. Beating children because they bruised your precious ego is bad parenting. Act like the adult you claim to be. You aren’t going to teach kids how to deal with conflict, which will happen in life, by beating them when they are in conflict with you.
@birdiewolf3497 she blamed her own mother for her father's adultery. The trauma of that sort of betrayal is already really severe, then to hear your own child blame you for it?? That's not bruising ego. That's just disgusting behavior to gaslight someone over something so sensitive and traumatic, let alone your own mother. That slap was deserved.
@@ryantony7743 It was an ugly thing for Sarah to do, but again using violence as a way deal with hurt feelings is not the answer. Nor does it even teach your child what they did was wrong and disgusting. I mean Lana hit her and what happened after the fact? It all became about how sarah was slapped. All hitting people does is satisfy your bruised ego. I’m not saying that to trivialize the bruised ego, because some people can really dig into where it hurts. But is hitting people going to make it go away? Is it going to make it hurt less? No. You are just using violence as a means to establish power and control over another person because you feel weak and vulnerable. It hurts Lana’s feelings and the only thing Lana could do to hurt her kid back was to slap her. That’s not how to resolve your issues or deal with pain. It’s not about if Sarah ‘deserves’ the slap. It is about effective parenting. Hitting children doesn’t teach them what you want them to know. You are not teaching them what is appropriate things to say when in conflict or recognizing when they’ve crossed the line and hit below the belt and what to do when they have done that. You just beat them.
@@The_Memorial She is spoiled in the way of your second point... she acts like she can nd should do whatever she wants and have no consequences... that is what led to her been slapped
Sure, if you want your kids to learn how to act that way towards everything they have a problem with by beating and hitting. It destroys reasonable conversation. Children replicate what they see from their parents.
Well when parents learn to act like adults. Kyle is a drunky who cheated. Lana is trying to force her emotions down, distracting herself with mayorhood and distancing herself from her children, trying to be a control freak about Sarah's life, telling her bf not to be close to her and then putting Sarah in the middle of her divorce with Kyle.
Have no context to who the girl is or what this show is but a slap seems pretty light thing to get into a fuss about. Plenty of families do worse with perfectly functioning relationships
@@arcticangel1628 I get what you're saying but that was not a reasonable conversation. Sarah was intentionally trying to hurt her mother. I'm not saying slapping her is the right solution, but how Sarah acts when she's upset is definitely a problem.
Oh hell no, I’m 31 years old and trust me, I was raised by an iron fisted mother who never doubted to beat the shit out of me, and many many many times did I got a slap just cause she was pissed, but I knew better than to defy her and I grow to be a man of good, todays kids just make a huge uproar over something that in the 90s was a common occurrence..
The man who lost his family is the one trying to keep it together
The irony is strong
His marriage falling apart knocked sense into him.
@@AdeptKing him cheating is a mistake that he’s gonna have to live with and he has accepted that.
Ah, the irony.
I guess him not being in the house and not seeing his family really affected him. Comparing seasons 1 and 2, it seemed more like the writers didn't really have a plan for the character anymore, so they just threw him cheating on his wife last minute. What was in season 1 possessed by a kryptonian? Then season 2 cheating really a downfall for the character
I like this show. I like the emphasis on family values. Which is exactly what we see from Clarks upbringing as a kid watching superman...
Man never thought Kyle would be the sensible one here... color me suprised
Kyle is really a good dad
You know I'm really sick of this actress I really am
Now he is. He was really distant especially in season 1, especially as a husband.
hes trying to be and that counts for a lot
@@joejose8433
The actress is doing a great job at playing that kind of character. I think it's more the character you are sick of, not the actress
It's really easy to make a deadbeat mom/dad amid a divorce when one character has more rank than the other. I'm amazed they make him as good of a guy as they do.
I think they handled this topic very well. They showed Both were wrong.
What Sara said did not make getting slapped okay, but getting slapped does not make what she said okay. Neither should have lashed out at the other.
Agreed.
Sarah's behavior came across as very bratty in this arc. She didn't see anything wrong with blaming her Lana for Kyle's affair. That's so messed up.
The writing is incredible. Relatable characters, realistic flaws (superhero/supervillain shenanigans notwithstanding), and where some shows might take it in a darker direction, the characters model healthy ways to deal with emotional and relational problems.
This is a show about families that happens to have Superman in it.
Damn, "everythings changed" and "I just see Mom differently" really hits me deep coming from a divorced family. At least Her parents are civil with each other unlike mine. I know this is just a show but yeah her actions just sums up how I constantly feel...
Anyone getting a death flag for Kyle, with how great his character is this season?
Parents must understand that their actions have consequences, not just for themselves, but for their children as well. And children of divorce are going to be especially volatile, which is to be expected when the normalcy they grew up with suddenly gets shattered in ways nobody prepared them for. That's why I'm glad to see Kyle did not try to excuse or downplay his own role in how all this came about; he took responsibility, like a GROWN-UP is supposed to do. And in his own taking responsibility, he's helping his ex-wife and daughter to take responsibility for their own negatives as well.
I hope that the show continues.
It’s funny how the man who lost his family is the one playing family counsel.
People don’t seem to realize that words can hurt
Yeah and actions too. Lana keeps putting Sarah in the middle of her divorce with Kyle. At some point Sarah would react
@@The_Memorial
How?
Sara leaves out important details because If she said what she told her mom Kyle wouldn’t be on her side!
I got to say Kyle is definitely dad of the year. And this is the most messed up harsh reality I’ve ever seen when it comes to marriage or just relationships period.
It doesn’t matter how good of a father you are, even how good of a husband you are. For whatever reason she doesn’t want you anymore your wife or your significant other. The title doesn’t matter the actions do. You’re forever an outsider. Spending weekends with your children instead of every single day with them. That’s not fair. I find Kyle‘s story very interesting. He started off really as a pathetic loser not gonna lie. Wallowing in self-pity. He lost his wife he lost certain connection with his children. And in doing so, he became the best version of himself ever. This show is amazing. Cuz a lot of the themes behind it are real.
I don't know if it was ever explained why Kyle cheated on Lana. In this case, it was his fault that the marriage ended. Some men are victims of divorce after they did everything right. Unfortunately, love isn't always enough to survive for a marriage to survive after an affair.
I hope you don't have/won't have children if this is your mindset
"Kyle is definitely dad of the year", you a second later "it doesn't matter how good a father you are".
Dude with two children cheats on his wife. And has a job(firefighter) that requires him to work multiple day long shifts.
And you say it's "not fair" that the dude who cheats on his wife and has a job that requires at the LEAST the majority of an entire day away from his home doesn't get custody for 5 days a week of two minor children?
Don't breed dude. Don't.
Sarah shouldn’t have said what she said to Lana, but Lana shouldn’t have slapped her. Teenagers normally get into arguments with their parents, it’s 100% normal, but parents shouldn’t act out and hurt their children like that either. And when they do, it can cut deeper than any words said, because it’s a physical reaction and because the kid can be very hurt, not physically but emotionally and mentally, from that. Sure, some parents spank their kids as punishment for their actions, but a slap to the face is very different, especially if it’s made in anger. Lana knows this because of her abusive upbringing, which is why she felt horrible about it because she felt like it was the first step toward becoming the mom she had, which she NEVER wants either of her daughters to experience
What is the matter with Sarah her father and Mother are trying to keep it together but she just not having it!
Is it weird that Valdez gives me serious Vincent D'Onofrio vibes?
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No parent is perfect unfortunately every parent's snaps eventually especially when they reach a breaking point and lose the patients with there kid there is only so much tolerance a parent can have being disrespected by her kid on top of that she comes off saying stuff about her parents marriage that's between husband and wife nobody is throwing the fact that she tried killing herself in season 1 in her face to hurt her like she did when she mentioned her dad cheating to her Mom. Lana didnt just up and slap her the breaking point came when Sarah mentioned affair.. lana reacted.. i dont believe in beating the crap out of you kid. But i do believe in a hand across the ass. BUT EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND HAS DIFFERENT OPINIONS WHICH THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THIS IS JUST MY OWN
Well I'm glad I grew up hating my mother who hated my father who drove him away blah blah blah second of all I never knew the reason why I was here on this f****** the Earth 🌎 that's the thing about apparent when they reach a certain point they don't feel like they got to explain nothing to you sorry what was the reason behind me being born on this f****** Earth to do what? And one day after so many years of my mother beating my ass I struck back and I enjoyed it and I loved it keyport hot water on my ass can I have the run for the house had to run out in agony but that was good 👍 I learn to stand on my feet it was time to go it was difficult would it made me the man I am today and I'm glad of it hello children and I'm glad of it in raising a child with a female woman f*** a b****there will be no blood line after when I'm gone that's it I am the first and the last and besides I got brothers and sisters so I let them do all the f****** in the breeding having brats after themselves I'm not interested my sister told me one time don't you want to see your nieces and nephews I said the white picket fence of your b******* and that other f****** that I don't want to like but I want to kill him if I ever see him my half-brother is not my idea I can care less about you anybody else and I told her I see you stay where you at and I'm going to stay where I'm at another state 30 years ago only when I send it on the telephone
Then why did Lana put Sarah between her divorce with Kyle? Asking her "what did you tell your father?" "Did you tell her about me and Henry?" "Be careful what you tell to your father about me?"
Lana put her daughter in the worst place a child can ever be put. Between a divorce.
Since Sarah is now in between she gets to speak her mind.
Simple as that
@@The_Memorial she’s not speaking her mind so much as verbally attacking her mother in the worst possible way
@@allioops12345 Well her mother attacked first
@@The_Memorial no she didnt attack Sarah.
I think we are coming from different places. Agree to disagree. As far as I’m concerned, She deserves that slap. It’s the only thing that finally shut her up. That’ll learn her.
They made the fans of this show really hate Kyle in Seasons 1 and 2. But in Season 3, he actually is doing a fairly good job of redeeming himself.
All this cause the girl got slapped for having a smart mouth. Kids need to be disciplined, the occasional slap to the mouth or spanking. But there is a line between discipline and abuse.
I wouldn't have gotten an apology after a remark like that... I would've been lucky to be alive at all.
She slapped me. I said that to my dad, my mother’s slap would be the least of my problems.
Not a fan of Sarah. She pretty much asked for that slap.
@StareachValcin I'm not a fan of sarah either the fact that Kyle telling she shouldn't never that to lana all can think is her self and hate lana had to apologize for the fact that she being disrespectful to her I can't I don't like her character at all.
No she didn't.
She's so manipulative and tries to make herself the victim all the time. She doesn't give a crap that she hurt her mother. All she gives is attitude all the time.
@@thescream18 She’s not manipulative yes the way she treated her mom was wrong but Lana was wrong for slapping in the face and in case you haven’t noticed Sarah is still trying to adjust to her new normal with her parents being divorced and all so give her a break
I thought the slap was wrong, but whoever wrote the portrayal of Sarah was terrible too I mean no matter what your kid says no 1 deserves to be slapped but at the same time as I said idiotic writing, for example when she was in the dark about Jordan and his excuse was family emergency and she said she wanted to be put 1st I am like oookkaayy put 1st before his family that made a lot of not sense.
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Shes lucky it was just one slap if I ever said anything like that to my mom she would've slapped the crap out of me
Did I miss an episode, when did Sarah try to kill herself?
I think it was at some point before the show began
Before the show began. It's mentioned in the pilot that she's on medication because she tried to take her own life the year prior. It's why her parents were so strict/overprotective toward her for most of the show, and it's explicitly why Kyle stopped his affair. Their constant fights almost cost them their daughter and they were scared it could happen again.
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Hurting your mother by blaming her for infidelity that your father did worse than your mother slapping you. You deserved that slap...
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We need to bring back corporal pubishment. Suddenly it's not okay to discipline your own child for stepping out of line in the way that you see fit as the parent? BS.
It is not okay. You aren’t disciplining anything. You are just assaulting someone which could normally have you charged and arrested. Beating children because they bruised your precious ego is bad parenting. Act like the adult you claim to be. You aren’t going to teach kids how to deal with conflict, which will happen in life, by beating them when they are in conflict with you.
@birdiewolf3497 she blamed her own mother for her father's adultery. The trauma of that sort of betrayal is already really severe, then to hear your own child blame you for it?? That's not bruising ego. That's just disgusting behavior to gaslight someone over something so sensitive and traumatic, let alone your own mother. That slap was deserved.
@@ryantony7743 It was an ugly thing for Sarah to do, but again using violence as a way deal with hurt feelings is not the answer. Nor does it even teach your child what they did was wrong and disgusting. I mean Lana hit her and what happened after the fact? It all became about how sarah was slapped. All hitting people does is satisfy your bruised ego. I’m not saying that to trivialize the bruised ego, because some people can really dig into where it hurts. But is hitting people going to make it go away? Is it going to make it hurt less? No. You are just using violence as a means to establish power and control over another person because you feel weak and vulnerable. It hurts Lana’s feelings and the only thing Lana could do to hurt her kid back was to slap her. That’s not how to resolve your issues or deal with pain. It’s not about if Sarah ‘deserves’ the slap. It is about effective parenting. Hitting children doesn’t teach them what you want them to know. You are not teaching them what is appropriate things to say when in conflict or recognizing when they’ve crossed the line and hit below the belt and what to do when they have done that. You just beat them.
ya know, a child needs to be manipulated to feel guilty for something they need to feel guilty about every once in awhile.
Guilty about what?
@@arcticangel1628 about what they did, or said.
Sarah is annoying she disrespect her mom that messed up
0:00 just starting the video and sarah is doing it again... i really cant stand with this character.
I hope lana will return to her ex husband kyle and sarah forgives her parents
Sarah is just a spoiled kid but definitely one of my fav characters
shes not spoiled shes a suicide survivor with clinical depression and divorced parents any ONE of those would be a lot to deal with for an ADULT
@@WardNightstone Hell no... she IS spoiled... She can be a suicide survivor and a spoiled brat both at once
@@cosocosoful how is she spoiled? In what sense? Is she rich? Was she raised to believe she can do whatever she wants and have no consequences?
@@The_Memorial She is spoiled in the way of your second point... she acts like she can nd should do whatever she wants and have no consequences... that is what led to her been slapped
@@cosocosoful You keep saying spoiled. i don't think you actually know what that word means.
How is this episode whit lana save sarah life?
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What's this about lana's mother
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Kyle and lana should get back together
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So many soft people in the comments you for sure should have your parents slap you if you act that out of line especially at that age
Sure, if you want your kids to learn how to act that way towards everything they have a problem with by beating and hitting. It destroys reasonable conversation. Children replicate what they see from their parents.
Well when parents learn to act like adults. Kyle is a drunky who cheated. Lana is trying to force her emotions down, distracting herself with mayorhood and distancing herself from her children, trying to be a control freak about Sarah's life, telling her bf not to be close to her and then putting Sarah in the middle of her divorce with Kyle.
Have no context to who the girl is or what this show is but a slap seems pretty light thing to get into a fuss about. Plenty of families do worse with perfectly functioning relationships
@@arcticangel1628
I get what you're saying but that was not a reasonable conversation. Sarah was intentionally trying to hurt her mother. I'm not saying slapping her is the right solution, but how Sarah acts when she's upset is definitely a problem.
Oh hell no, I’m 31 years old and trust me, I was raised by an iron fisted mother who never doubted to beat the shit out of me, and many many many times did I got a slap just cause she was pissed, but I knew better than to defy her and I grow to be a man of good, todays kids just make a huge uproar over something that in the 90s was a common occurrence..
Discipline is one thing but hitting your kid just because you're mad is completely different and it is wrong