@@bamzerdaniel1997 if you want people to argue with you on the internet you need to give more justifications for your claims. Otherwise you just wasting everyone's electricity.
@@strangelaw6384 The many “Qurans” part is wrong. The Quran was revealed in 7 Arabic ahruf (dialects). and the meaning of the Quran is the same between them all. And those were revealed by the prophet, it’s fully accepted that all were correct. And no none of them was “competing”. There were disputes from the lack of knowledge of reciters sometimes. The Quran was standardised by the third caliph to establish to the more unity. And yeah “lost text” is wrong too as the Quran was memorised by 100s of companions during the prophets time and afterwards. So losing a chapter is impossible. The Quran was consistently recited by the prophet and companions daily.
Agree. Posting links to these sources would be very helpful as a Muslim acquaintance wouldn't care what a Christian prof has to say but might care about his own authoritative texts.
Teacher. Why do my brothers not like me? Since Abraham’s impatient act which led to the separation of half brothers, they have chosen to curse me. In fact, I have seen that they will accept Gentiles before accepting us. Is there a way that we can come together as siblings from the same father or are we destined to live through the revelation in two different households? I see that the way forward is mending these bonds, so far, an impossible task.
That's the will of Allah az wa jal, like promising that the lineage of Ishmael a.s. being great and prosperous as long as they follow Islam. Our renaissance is unfolding very soon in chaa Allah.
Question to the prof: was there any major event regarding the Quran in Egypt in 1920s? If so, could you create a video on this and post some resources. I heard, but don't remember where or when, that the Quran today is a result of all other Qurans being destroyed in Egypt at that time. True?
There was. In the past the Quran was made to accommodate most recitations but with printing press being cheaper to stick with one recitation, they made the Quran specifically to accommodate the Hafs recitation as it was the recitation taught to ottoman emperors. North Africa uses warsh recitation and other countries use other recitations as well but most Quran reciters know at least 4 or 5 styles of recitations
There are over 100 Qurans with no original text to point to. Dr Jay Smith and his team are amazing in disproving the whole Muslim movement and politio/religio religion of it.
We still sticking with that 🤣 it’s been refuted like 1000 times. See Farid responds if you are sincere. Any questions after watching his video on the matter I will answer any subsequent question
@@slightlyopinionated8107 show me 50 of those 1,000 times. You can't because Islam is not a real religion. It's a cult and there are no Muslims prior to the the 6 th century, just Arabs. What's great is the amount of "Muslims" finding out the truth and turning to Jesus for their salvation. Have a great day
Sources or evidences? We have carbon tested texts proving our claims in Topcapi museum in Istanbul. What do you have? Only hearsays and unsubstantiated rants so far.
The many “Qurans” part is wrong. The Quran was revealed in 7 Arabic ahruf (dialects). and the meaning of the Quran is the same between them all. And those were revealed by the prophet, it’s fully accepted that all were correct. And no none of them was “competing”. There were disputes from the lack of knowledge of reciters sometimes. The Quran was standardised by the third caliph to establish to the more unity. And yeah “lost text” is wrong too as the Quran was memorised by 100s of companions during the prophets time and afterwards. So losing a chapter is impossible. The Quran was consistently recited by the prophet and companions.
Why was it memorised? It doesn't make sense because they had materials to write it down and preserve it. We have no manuscripts dating before uthaman days which is around 130 or 240 years after Mohamad's death. That's why you have to pull an argument that it was memorised.
@@0xgodson119 paper wasn’t that much available, memorising the quran is a common practise throughout the world. I have few of my family members who memorised it too and there are millions of people who memorise it around the world(they are called hafiz). The Quran is memorised because it is recited during prayers (we do that today too). The Quran is made to be memorised as even the word Quran originates from the word “the recited”. There were 100s of companions of the prophet who memorised it. There are manuscripts during Othman’s time and even during the prophets time (the Birmingham manuscript) and they still match the Quran today.
Memorization is a stronger standard for maintaining scripture than writing. There are many reasons for this that I can explain if interested but a quick example would be the lost letters of Paul or the exegesis additions that were added to the Bible even though they haven’t been part of it such as the three heavenly or apocrypha that was added such as the various times scripture is quoted yet in the New Testament yet the source cannot be found in the Old Testament but rather in apocryphal sources.
@@slightlyopinionated8107The NT never quotes the apocrypha, Catholics who believe in the ‘apocrypha’ admit this. It might make allusions, but not quotations. The only book that does is Jude, but it’s well known in biblical studies quoting something (and especially allusions) does not automatically equal inspiration. It’s actually the Quran that tells apocryphal stories never belonging to the Bible. Dr Shabir Ally has admitted this. So has Bart Ehrman.
@@Jolomon the bible quotes apocrypha multiple times and a quick google search would've shown that. You even have additions to the Old Testament that the Jews do not accept as scripture. You also didn't say anything regarding the lost letters of Paul or the trinitarian attempt to place the doctrine in there with the three heavenly witnesses verse
Scholars have and do make such videos. The Bible was written over thousands of years in different languages by numerous authors spread out geographically and is still a unified story that makes sense and is supported by archeological and non-Christian historical sources. Only the Spirit of a mighty God could do that.
It’s not that it must-it just is. I invite us all (self included) to examine it. For instance, Psalm 22, written by King David under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit speaks of Christ’s crucifixion although it happened 1,000 years later and the practice of crucifixion had not yet been invented by the Persians (or at least perfected by them). Yet the Christ spoke the words of David when He hung in the cross, recalling the Psalm and indicating He was the fulfillment of it, “My God, my God…” After studying the New Testament then reading the Bible through from the beginning, it’s easy to see Jesus everywhere. Everything points to Him as the Christ, the Lord and Savior of the world. Shalom!
@@bnk4149 Even then, the Bible is simply a story to me. Jacob/Israel, Moses, King David, ...These are characters of God's story, who lived in the distant past. I read the Bible like a newspaper or science magazine. Yes, happy, exciting news. Hopeful future. Terrifying challenges but also the Hand that guides us through. God's followers triumph over and over again. But it's all so very distant, somehow. I can't HEAR God.
I think that can be normal-I had to fight to love the Word of God and ask for God’s help to bring it alive to me. I used to fall asleep but confessed to God I found the Word boring and dense. And it is dense-the treasures are endless. At any rate, after asking that He’d help me love and understand His Word, I can assure you He answered my prayer. I still have to commit myself to it because it doesn’t read as easily as uninspired works of man, but it is SO RICH! There’s an answer for whatever ails us. We also learn so much about the character and nature of God, Who loves us without end although He doesn’t have to. I find listening to an audio Bible very helpful. I’ll listen to the same book multiple times and then read it, and the Holy Spirit will give me revelation. He’ll do the same for you!
Spoken like a true scholar and academic…. Oh wait almost all scholars and academics agree he existed the only ones who don’t are Christian apologists. There is more doubt on the existence of Jesus in academia than there is of the Prophet Muhammad so if that’s your standard disbelieve in both.
@@slightlyopinionated8107 Narrated Aisha: Once the Prophet (ﷺ) was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done. SAHIH AL-BUKHARI 3175 BOOK 58 HADITH 17🤣
Facial expressions don’t determine truth. Someone could simply say “not knowing how to spell LYING, shows that a person is lying” These are terrible reasons. This is a weak, fallacious argument at best. Explain why he is wrong and maybe you’ll get traction.
@@TheJDough1he's lying about the many Holy Quran and lost chapters, contradictions in the bible are undeniable. Just some logical thoughts, Jesus was Jewish as most of his disciples, they wouldn't accept association to God then like now. Can you put two, or three captains to one ship, better two or three kings to one kingdom. NEVER.
“There’s wholes in the narrative” -Yasir Quadi
Allhamdu-Isa
*holes
He's speaking very, very carefully
that's academia for ya
And is very wrong too
@@bamzerdaniel1997 if you want people to argue with you on the internet you need to give more justifications for your claims. Otherwise you just wasting everyone's electricity.
@@strangelaw6384
The many “Qurans” part is wrong. The Quran was revealed in 7 Arabic ahruf (dialects). and the meaning of the Quran is the same between them all. And those were revealed by the prophet, it’s fully accepted that all were correct. And no none of them was “competing”. There were disputes from the lack of knowledge of reciters sometimes.
The Quran was standardised by the third caliph to establish to the more unity.
And yeah “lost text” is wrong too as the Quran was memorised by 100s of companions during the prophets time and afterwards. So losing a chapter is impossible. The Quran was consistently recited by the prophet and companions daily.
Very well put.
I am very happy to learn so much on history of Quran, but would enjoy direct references to support. I want knowledge to discuss with Muslim believers.
UA-cam: Christian Prince ❤
I completely agree, I think it's a wonderful video and I have no doubt he has sources to back it up, I just wish you would share with us.
CIRA International UA-cam channel. Hands down the best
Agree. Posting links to these sources would be very helpful as a Muslim acquaintance wouldn't care what a Christian prof has to say but might care about his own authoritative texts.
Take his class and you will get the sources and much more
Very good video.
Teacher. Why do my brothers not like me? Since Abraham’s impatient act which led to the separation of half brothers, they have chosen to curse me. In fact, I have seen that they will accept Gentiles before accepting us. Is there a way that we can come together as siblings from the same father or are we destined to live through the revelation in two different households? I see that the way forward is mending these bonds, so far, an impossible task.
That's the will of Allah az wa jal, like promising that the lineage of Ishmael a.s. being great and prosperous as long as they follow Islam. Our renaissance is unfolding very soon in chaa Allah.
Thank you!
Good explanation
Jesus is Lord.
"...and we're proud of it."
- Ali Dawah
Sir one video on Hinduism please 🙏🙏
Question to the prof: was there any major event regarding the Quran in Egypt in 1920s? If so, could you create a video on this and post some resources. I heard, but don't remember where or when, that the Quran today is a result of all other Qurans being destroyed in Egypt at that time. True?
There was. In the past the Quran was made to accommodate most recitations but with printing press being cheaper to stick with one recitation, they made the Quran specifically to accommodate the Hafs recitation as it was the recitation taught to ottoman emperors. North Africa uses warsh recitation and other countries use other recitations as well but most Quran reciters know at least 4 or 5 styles of recitations
It’s pointless to argue about religion.
In the Quran -- Why Not Al-Muhammad ???? But Why Muhammad"UUUN" and Muhammad"IIIN" ??????
There are over 100 Qurans with no original text to point to. Dr Jay Smith and his team are amazing in disproving the whole Muslim movement and politio/religio religion of it.
We still sticking with that 🤣 it’s been refuted like 1000 times. See Farid responds if you are sincere. Any questions after watching his video on the matter I will answer any subsequent question
@@slightlyopinionated8107 show me 50 of those 1,000 times. You can't because Islam is not a real religion. It's a cult and there are no Muslims prior to the the 6 th century, just Arabs.
What's great is the amount of "Muslims" finding out the truth and turning to Jesus for their salvation.
Have a great day
Sources or evidences? We have carbon tested texts proving our claims in Topcapi museum in Istanbul. What do you have? Only hearsays and unsubstantiated rants so far.
@@HadiB123 Dr.Smith and from there you can find many others who work on or with their archeological team. EVIDENCE
Is whether the Quran has many versions the bigger issue or whether Mohammad really "married" a 6 year old girl when he was 50?
That was two minutes of content crammed into ten
The many “Qurans” part is wrong. The Quran was revealed in 7 Arabic ahruf (dialects). and the meaning of the Quran is the same between them all. And those were revealed by the prophet, it’s fully accepted that all were correct. And no none of them was “competing”. There were disputes from the lack of knowledge of reciters sometimes.
The Quran was standardised by the third caliph to establish to the more unity.
And yeah “lost text” is wrong too as the Quran was memorised by 100s of companions during the prophets time and afterwards. So losing a chapter is impossible. The Quran was consistently recited by the prophet and companions.
Why was it memorised? It doesn't make sense because they had materials to write it down and preserve it. We have no manuscripts dating before uthaman days which is around 130 or 240 years after Mohamad's death. That's why you have to pull an argument that it was memorised.
@@0xgodson119 paper wasn’t that much available, memorising the quran is a common practise throughout the world. I have few of my family members who memorised it too and there are millions of people who memorise it around the world(they are called hafiz). The Quran is memorised because it is recited during prayers (we do that today too). The Quran is made to be memorised as even the word Quran originates from the word “the recited”. There were 100s of companions of the prophet who memorised it. There are manuscripts during Othman’s time and even during the prophets time (the Birmingham manuscript) and they still match the Quran today.
Memorization is a stronger standard for maintaining scripture than writing. There are many reasons for this that I can explain if interested but a quick example would be the lost letters of Paul or the exegesis additions that were added to the Bible even though they haven’t been part of it such as the three heavenly or apocrypha that was added such as the various times scripture is quoted yet in the New Testament yet the source cannot be found in the Old Testament but rather in apocryphal sources.
@@slightlyopinionated8107The NT never quotes the apocrypha, Catholics who believe in the ‘apocrypha’ admit this. It might make allusions, but not quotations. The only book that does is Jude, but it’s well known in biblical studies quoting something (and especially allusions) does not automatically equal inspiration.
It’s actually the Quran that tells apocryphal stories never belonging to the Bible. Dr Shabir Ally has admitted this. So has Bart Ehrman.
@@Jolomon the bible quotes apocrypha multiple times and a quick google search would've shown that. You even have additions to the Old Testament that the Jews do not accept as scripture. You also didn't say anything regarding the lost letters of Paul or the trinitarian attempt to place the doctrine in there with the three heavenly witnesses verse
Their counter argument: why would I believe a Christian?😅😅
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Hehe, this channel made a bold move making this video, considering that the bible can be casted in almost the exact same light.
Scholars have and do make such videos.
The Bible was written over thousands of years in different languages by numerous authors spread out geographically and is still a unified story that makes sense and is supported by archeological and non-Christian historical sources. Only the Spirit of a mighty God could do that.
@@bnk4149 Why do you think that the Bible MUST be a unified story though?
It’s not that it must-it just is. I invite us all (self included) to examine it. For instance, Psalm 22, written by King David under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit speaks of Christ’s crucifixion although it happened 1,000 years later and the practice of crucifixion had not yet been invented by the Persians (or at least perfected by them). Yet the Christ spoke the words of David when He hung in the cross, recalling the Psalm and indicating He was the fulfillment of it, “My God, my God…”
After studying the New Testament then reading the Bible through from the beginning, it’s easy to see Jesus everywhere. Everything points to Him as the Christ, the Lord and Savior of the world.
Shalom!
@@bnk4149 Even then, the Bible is simply a story to me. Jacob/Israel, Moses, King David, ...These are characters of God's story, who lived in the distant past. I read the Bible like a newspaper or science magazine. Yes, happy, exciting news. Hopeful future. Terrifying challenges but also the Hand that guides us through. God's followers triumph over and over again.
But it's all so very distant, somehow. I can't HEAR God.
I think that can be normal-I had to fight to love the Word of God and ask for God’s help to bring it alive to me. I used to fall asleep but confessed to God I found the Word boring and dense. And it is dense-the treasures are endless. At any rate, after asking that He’d help me love and understand His Word, I can assure you He answered my prayer. I still have to commit myself to it because it doesn’t read as easily as uninspired works of man, but it is SO RICH! There’s an answer for whatever ails us. We also learn so much about the character and nature of God, Who loves us without end although He doesn’t have to.
I find listening to an audio Bible very helpful. I’ll listen to the same book multiple times and then read it, and the Holy Spirit will give me revelation. He’ll do the same for you!
Jesus is Lord
Muhammad never existed
Jesus is Lord, but Muhammed did exist, he is an historical figure, but he is not a true prophet
@@jelmerprins
What's the earliest non Muhammadan source of Muhammad?
@@joehouston2833 c.730 AD
Spoken like a true scholar and academic…. Oh wait almost all scholars and academics agree he existed the only ones who don’t are Christian apologists. There is more doubt on the existence of Jesus in academia than there is of the Prophet Muhammad so if that’s your standard disbelieve in both.
@@slightlyopinionated8107
Narrated Aisha:
Once the Prophet (ﷺ) was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done.
SAHIH AL-BUKHARI 3175
BOOK 58 HADITH 17🤣
His facial expression shows that the man is laying. He uses a lot of efforts to claim false claims. May the Almighty guide us.
Facial expressions don’t determine truth. Someone could simply say “not knowing how to spell LYING, shows that a person is lying” These are terrible reasons. This is a weak, fallacious argument at best.
Explain why he is wrong and maybe you’ll get traction.
@@TheJDough1he's lying about the many Holy Quran and lost chapters, contradictions in the bible are undeniable.
Just some logical thoughts, Jesus was Jewish as most of his disciples, they wouldn't accept association to God then like now. Can you put two, or three captains to one ship, better two or three kings to one kingdom. NEVER.