The "not fitting in their clique" is in game too. Recently brought 15 of my friends to Palia, we were running around , chopping trees and mining , just all the things . A grove spawns, my group and i call it out and wait for folks to show up , then another person calls it out and everybody flocks to them , we wait patiently , still nobody , so we start chopping trees. Get called names , told we "stole " the trees for "everybody who worked so hard to make it happen" Yeah me and my friends ...... there is resource gatekeeping going on . AND the resources take forever to spawn again. I am a solo player , i find corners to do my thing alone as i dont fit in with everybody else . I have warned the players that as soon as its out of beta there are going to be throngs of people coming to play , some very toxic players. I dont think ill be playing anymore , it was a good 6 months , but im over it now , tired of being left out and mistreated in a game.
There are a HUGE amount of costumes available free in the game when you launch the game. No free pets, though. You must not have played it yet. They were actually very generous with the number of clothing options they give us for free.
they launched the pets to reward those who are giving this vote of confidence to a new company with their game in open beta, but in the future they intend to do something more about this
@Violetbunnyfish the clothing options they gave us are sub-par at best. But yeah, there are a decent amount of options. Still, a 50$ outfit is fn ridiculous. 15$ minimum for a new outfit.
@@beepboop97 Yeah I agree, the free options aren't exactly good enough to make buying clothes an actual choice. Which is a tactic used by the companies a lot of those devs come from. Sure you don't have to buy the clothes, but if want your character to actually look nice? You will pay.
For an MMO that is supposed to be social aspect focus it is severely lacking, it's more like a single player game with minimal player to player interaction
Free to play is no excuse for all the issues of this game. I played other ftp mmo's with much more content. I really like Palia but after playing a while I'm getting bored with all the grind. Collecting hours and hours flow trees for just one piece of furniture isn't enough. For a game with such a high development budget it really should offer more than only 2 maps and 3 huntable animals. I'm not active on discord so I didn't know about the community issues. ingame I always thought the community is very friendly. I play since open beta and right now I only join when a new update is released. That's ok for a ftp game but it is not enough for spending money for overprized cosmetics.
Yeah, I've always had nice interactions in game (whenever I happen to see people, that is). I was kinda hoping to have more things to collect and gather by this point. 2 maps is pretty small. We're talking PSO2 levels of spaceship small, but at least that game has instances to queue up with people. We need something like that in Palia.
I kind-of agree with the notion that if the game is free-to-play, it doesn't really harm the consumer to not divulge that the game is not complete and actually in beta or early access. That said, it's still an INCREDIBLY STUPID thing to do because it DOES, in fact, hurt the gamedevs themselves and their game. They are just shooting themselves in the foot!!!
This may have been mentioned already in the comments, but the Switch version doesn’t even say “beta” on the main menu of the game. They removed it when porting to Switch. Super unethical in my opinion.
"Like getting a free bag of chips, only realizing it's a free sample" Nah, more like, getting a free can of energy drink, and no where on the packaging/can does it say anything, except after you consume some, the person handing out the free drink then notifies you that the drink is still in development, and may contain unfinished, untested chemicals and vitamins from "trust me bro" sources. But don't worry, don't complain, because it's free. May or may not contain a few bugs and glitches here or there, don't worry about it.
I really like the game but i have not joined their discord and now i know to just stay away from it. I did find an awesome youtuber who plays the game and have joined his discord and all those members are awesome! I mostly play as a single player. I will keep playing but hopefully it gets better! Thanks for the information about what's been going on! ❤
Yeah, game chat is very nice, discord not so much. Hard to believe it's the same people on both places. I think Discord was hijacked by those people that like to make everything political. I once said that I think we don't have many girly and cute outfits and hairstyles in Palia and that I'm really not a fan of the androgen look going on, and people in chat acted like it was an attack on LGBT community or something. And I was like "it's a freaking game, get your politics out of it!"
I have never had a problem with singularity6 or palia. The thing with beta is you have to go to their website or be in discord or have been with the community for a while. I came into this game wanting to be left alone (i dont like multiplayer). I have never seen the issues mentioned in the discord or community. Bugs are an issue because its still in BETA you have to give feed back for them to even fix it. They are still making new content and fixing bugs. I do agree with the cosmetics atea tho
That's fair. It's just alarming when early Alpha players are saying they're not listening to feedback when we're in open Beta now. It kinda makes you wonder... yunno?
@XoloQueue yea I get where people are coming from. Singularity6 needs to be more organized and cater more to the people who play their games. I get the whole 'if you don't like it get losts' but that's bad business in the first place especially when the people they are telling to 'get lost' make very valid points
I agree that the outfits are SO expensive, but I havent had any issues with Discord or the Mods/Devs being nasty (but maybe I am not on there enough to see it)
That was not my experience. I found Palia Discord to be very nasty if one doesn't agree with the mob mentality. I only go there now for game help, not to chat.
palia fan long before steam launch, just tried it out and it genuinely feels like it runs worse on steam, which is wild. ive never had a game open up and say press any button only to not respond to the A button. i just wanted to be mad abt it somewhere
Yes it should be $2.00 to $3.00 for a outfit but it could be worse like a gotcha game like town of fantasy or genshin impact. If you want good game wait for Fastasy Life The Girl who steal time on nintendo switch. Singularity 6 acting like Rockstar Game at this point how they treat there consumers
i played the game about 8 months ago, i liked it at first but problems in-game became too much so stopped playing after some time but i'm a little confusio..is it STILL in beta right now??
Sounds like a perfectly normal open beta to me. Only gripe I'd have is the fail of it being mentioned on Steam and Nintendo Switch, but everything else sounds perfectly normal. As for the Discord stuff, it's hard to say without any screenshots. I will hold off my judgment on that until I see some evidence. Oh yeah and I almost forgot: y'all are trippin' about the skin prices. It's not 50 quid for a skin. It's 50 for a SET of THREE skins, each with their own flair and usually THREE colours each, making it a total of NINE skins. And you don't have to buy the set. If you like just one skin, you can buy it separately. Palia has some of the most affordable skins in the FTP model. Again: y'all be trippin'.
It's not 3 skins. It's 1 skin with 3 variations. The changes aren't different enough to be described as "3 skins" imo. You can't mix and match the pieces into a single outfit price so you're forced to buy the entire bundle to get the exact piece, texture, and color combination you want. Other ftp games would sell this as recolors or chromas, NOT standalone skins. One bundle is 5,100 Palia coins, so it's basically a $50 skin. I would argue that Palia has some of the LEAST affordable skins I've ever seen in a FTP game. What makes it worse, is they are selling these skins at this price, while in open beta. That is crazy. The fact that they still haven't changed the store pages to state that the game is actually in open beta, despite feedback and backlash from the player base is sneaky and erodes player trust. I agree with you with the screenshots thing. That being said, I felt it would be a disservice not to include those reviews in the video since there were more than 10 that mentioned issues with the discord. Many of them mentioned messages being deleted by mods. At first, I thought maybe it was just a couple of salty outliers, but over 10? That's a bit concerning. Thanks for your comment. And thanks for watching, btw. :)
@@XoloQueueI agree with your assessment on the skins, if there was more fluidity between colors and individual items it would be easier to write off It doesn’t sit right that aspects of climbing, bug catching, hunting, and Tamala’s house are still broken yet they’re raking in easily thousands of dollars from the premium store :/ Also other players are constantly glitching around me Where is that money going???
@@XoloQueue You would both be wrong... It's 1 skin with 3 variations and then 3 variations of that.. At the end of the day it's still 9 skins, even if they are similar. You may argue that they have the most expensive FTP skins, but definitely not, they are in the high range for sure, but i play many FPT games with skins can be between 30-50 and then there are the games you pay for that are 30-50 dollars for skins... I've been on the front line of calling Palia out, but we look bad if we over exaggerate the state of it.
I left the discord after two moments. The server is heavily in fandom and trying to envolve myself in it, i pointed out something i found in one of the npcs room. Brought it up and was immediately dismissed like it wasnt worth discussing cause it didnt fit the narrative of the npc they assumed or wanted. The second was being ignored. Id comment, interact, and nothing. Theyed responed to comments directly above and below mine on multipe discussions, but i was effectively given a chat room silent treatment. So i bounced.
Man this hurts to find out the devs are like this however most in game have been nice every now and then i get a jerk and have read stories of a gay kid being bullued by girls n crap and i agree im ok with micros in the free too play but they way to high priced. And some of the streamers like Percival have been saying its a beta i guess i know why i dont mind the glitchyness too much but this bug were ur character freezes sux. Andi get what they mean about the devs The ARK devs are like that ban u for reporting glitches n crap. I still like the game so ill keep playing but the stuff you read off is all very fair critisms and i agree with most of itbut would still like to see it survive cuz i have made some decent friends in the game despite its flaws and the grind doesnt bother me cuz im not rushing through the story. I hope the devs smarten up. I never played stardew valley either this is my first game like this the closest ive come is ARK but i playby myself or with my gf. I used to do it too gta v online cuz if u change your ping u can get on a server alone with patients if ur like me who doesnt wanna be bullied
If you like games like Palia, perhaps I can make some suggestions for alternative games other than Stardew Valley. I've played Bandle Tale and have had a really good time. It's super cute with nice lo-fi beats that keep me relaxed. Farm Together is another really good farming sim where you can visit other people's plots online, but you're not obligated to interact with anyone. Both of these games I mentioned have some neat home customization and decorating options. Neither of them are free, but they do go on sale from time to time and are very fun and relaxing to play. :)
Thanks for the video. I found the game simply as a free to play on steam. Wife liked it so we had fun doing all the starting items. Were playing slow enough to not have the grinding same items affect us yet. I can definately see the points of the comments. I'm on the fence too but as someone who just found it and hasn't spent anything on the game cant argue much for hours of free game time with the fam.
My steam review. If ya want casual lil game similar to diablo 4 where you can just play in a world populated by players with not much but still somewhat nice possibilities to play together mainly thinking about benefits of hunting with friends but even then we have had fun just competing between friends about progress and monetary gain while also just learning whatever roundabout secrets etc we can find and share, i do agree with the opinion of many other players about increasing the multiplayer aspect but even then id likely just want like a community/guild plot/house to build and share resources together in, also finding out early on about easy moneymaking with gems was quite a fun and nice way to ease off the need to grind much. But yeah havent bought anything personally but id gladly buy 20 euro outfits to support the game expecially seeing that the quality of them is totally worth it, also ya do get the pets too just buying the credits so seems pretty easy.
The only point of comparison between Diablo IV and Palia is that somehow D4 has better character customization and cosmetics than the cozy life sim game that touted how well they did both of those things.
It's so sad because so far I actually really enjoyed the story of a "lost civilisation" and the ruins everywhere...its really good there is great potential....tf are they doing with it?! DONT RUIN THIS GAME PLS PLS!
I mean these review bombers are talking about toxic people not game. Trust me as long time MMO player you can ALWAYS find toxic people. I played wow for years moderators were always slow and often didn't give two shits about most the trolls and toxic people if they didn't cross a line like people don't get this there is a line in the sand in MMOs and vets know these lines. Everything you explained and complained about has been out since the first MMO cosmetic item lol. Likerememberr wow cash shop pets people would try to brag about it, and "poor shame" I just ignored them, and moved the hell on with my life lol. You don't even want to get me started on MMO bugs there was multiple instances where I couldn't even play a game I paid a SUBCRIPTION for one or more days and had to get sub days added to my account pushing billing date. Which is really annoying. None this is new complaints about MMOs. ESPECIALLY on steam who has some the most toxic players out there, like steam forums are starting to rival COD kids these days for toxicity. especially in reveiws.
I can tell you didn't actually watch the video. Lol 1) Palia is CLEARLY not an MMO (this is false advertising. Even the good reviews admit to it) 2) The devs are STILL lying about the open beta status of the game on their store fronts. You've missed the entire point of the video. Toxicity might sound trivial but the sheer number of reviews that mentioned it was alarming.
Those who did this are simply rotten!!, they forget that this game is free! I play on a Switch and is it the best at the moment? nooo.. However, Palia is still a fantastic game. Go over and hammer games such as Disney Dramlight Valley which is NOT free, obtained for a heavy fee, far more glitchy than Palai and includes outrageous in-game purchases for "premium items" (which should be included because those supplied with the game are nothing but crap) All of you who felt the need to bash Palia should be congratulated on many people losing their jobs, well done...
"Bashing" Palia, and people getting laid off have absolutely nothing to do with each other. A lot of layoffs are happening throughout the gaming industry (and the entire economy), right now, so it's not exactly unexpected. The game is free. Why would that lead to layoffs if people aren't playing while they're STILL IN DEVELOPMENT? The idea that negative player feedback had led to layoffs is ridiculous and laughable. The devs aren't even listening to the player feedback in the first place. Also the game being free doesn't excuse shitty behavior. Stop trying to shield the same people who are actively lying to you and losing player trust. This is player feedback, not "bashing". I'm not going to go and criticize that random Disney game you just mentioned. Why? I don't play the game, and don't want to. This video is about Palia, so saying "but this game over here is worse!" Is completely irrelevant. It's amazing to me that people are still out here defending S6 despite the facts. It's ok to like a game, and have criticism. In fact, I would say that some of the reviews probably came from some of the most loyal and dedicated players. Many of them played this game from is very early stages. If we don't speak up now, and express our concerns, we are doing a disservice to literally everyone (including the devs at S6).
If they are getting laid off becuase of backlash and people no longer playing the game, then in truth that has more to do with the development and how they handled things. It's like Kill The Justice League, or Skull and Bones, those games tanked tremendously because they over promised and did some shit things and some bad choices. Granted people paid up front for those games, but Free to Play doesn't mean you can offer horse shit with gold flakes on it and call it a golden stone and that be okay. Also, as many who have play tested games before, the current state of the game isn't where most games are expected to be when in an open beta cycle. Often open beta is used to stress test servers, if it is an multiplayer game, and hammer out any remaining bugs that might be present. Open beta is to make sure the game is as stable as it can be when launched. It's why AAA developers have lost so much love in recent years and why studios like Laraian are industry darlings. BG 3 was insanely stable at launch mostly considering they under guessed how many would be playing at launch. People unhappy with S6's behavior and pointing it out, are not to blame. It's S6's shit behavior and poor choices that are.
Palia community in game is very nice and helpful and I never had any bad experiences in game chat. Palia discord, in other hand, can be very hostile, to the point I only go there now for game help but not just to chat about the game, cause any criticism would be immediately squashed. I went to Palia discord thinking I would find a community like Animal Crossing Pocket Camp, that is the most wholesome community ever, but instead I found a chat full of toxic positivity.
Yikes. I've also had a good experience with people in game. I think I'll take the advice of others and not even enter the discord. They'll probably just kick me for joining at this point. They've probably seen this video. LMAO
Palia is basically a home decorating game like ACNH but more stressful. It is very far from being complete and I am surprised they released this game in this state despite them saying its closed beta, they should have worked on it for a bit longer before " release". the main quest is shallow and quick to complete, leaves a lot to be desired with the added gift of unnecessary burn out.
I had originally planned to spend as much on it a month as I did in other MMOs, but once I got playing, I realized how very little content it had compared to them. I bought coins at the beginning, then decided no more until they finished the vaults so I bought another $30 of them last week. I'm going to need to see something really impressive to buy again though. I need a new large zone with a massive number of interesting quests and new mats or a new skill to make me feel like it's worth the money.
Reading your comment reminded me of the way some contractors get paid at various times throughout a project. It makes sense to me. I'm just too broke atm. LOL
I haven't spend any money on this game cause they still haven't added a safe paying method, one that it's not paypal or requires giving our credit card number. And honestly, the more time passes, the less I'm interested in investing in a game that is far from being a full developed game, that is full of bugs, and that is losing my interest rather quickly.
What I'm worried about is they will do what they did going from Alpha into closed beta, they wiped everything and they had the cash shop then. They refunded the coins but raised the store prices so you couldn't even rebuy your items without spending more money. I am worried something similar will happen when the game, if it does, properly launch. Because despite what they may be saying I don't trust them.
I wanted to play this game with friends. I love cozy farming Sims and the idea of an open world mmo farming sim was amazing. But after the launch of the open beta i was dissapointed. There is no reason to play together, no incentive to group up and the only things where you can play together is farming materials, the dullest mindnumbing tasks in the game. This game might be free to play but thats because there is not a lot to do in this game and nobody would pay to play this lackluster "farming sim" that limits how much you can farm....
Yunno... now that you mention it, having a limit on farming when there's no market board or mass trading mechanic in the game makes no sense. I haven't even thought of this.
I wish more people were talking about these things. Because as of S6 censoring, it's just rabid fans defending the game and having people flood steam to leave positive reviews and most of those reviews are one line, or people lying to defend the actual problems with "It's a cozy game and it's free to play" Everything about S6 screams shady, and having tested a fair amount of games, from Alpha up and into open beta, this game as it stands is barely beta ready. And it's clear they aren't doing what Larian did which is have a small (though with Larian small was 40 hours) part of the game open so they could focus on some mecianial cores to make sure they are ready to go with launch. They literally just don't have anything. They have plans, but this stuff won't be magically in game at launch. I would bet money on that. More truthfully, I don't see the game leaving beta like Warframe so they can skirt around shit and their "cozy" fans will keep defending them. Like I wanted this game to do well, it's something a lot of people wanted, but you can see the AAA game industry stink all over it, and I feel like the simulator crowd and cozy crowd are more easily manipulated into being okay with these red flags than other gamers. Sims players do it too. EA messes up big time and they forget and forgive in like a week, even though the game is still massively broken.
I still think this game will become what DDLV could only hope to be. I use them to compare because of how terrible DDLV played on the switch, and the fact that DDLV is filled with micro transactions that arent so micro and palia has the costumes. They are both fetch quest heavy and contain many npcs. I like farming better in DDLV but Palia is much more cozy, and if they released another map and add on to the characters it would be even more amazing. I hope the devs change their ways though...
@@XoloQueue Yeah it was recent, I really think this game is more and more looking like a quick money grab to work on something else, or for them to vanish and go back to other studios. Who knows.
@Amondra87 I have a weird feeling too they'll take the money and run. I kept telling my friend not to buy anything yet. She's glad she didn't. She stopped playing Palia with me cause of the bugs :(
@@SpookyAsuna That's the thing, right? People keep saying but it's in beta and they are an indie team. However, I think most can easily point the holes in the arguments. The bugs I will say while beta is for fixing bugs, "Open beta" is often when games are polished and stress testing servers to ensure stability. And the fact they kept hiding it's in beta on Switch and Steam is another giant red flag.
I was really looking forward to Palia when it got announced. I installed it on the Switch, but it was a blurry mess I just couldn’t look at. Sadly it’s not on PS5, so I sat down on my desk and installed it on PC. Looked better, but my god the first story beats were so shallow. I mean I fell out of the magic portal into a strange world and nobody even cared. Must be so traumatic for my character, I mean … can I ever go home? Do I have a family were I came from? Maybe a pet? Does time go on there? Does someone look after them? … no, nothing. Take that axe and go build a tent. I know not every game out there can be a BG3, but I just felt immediately bored with Palia and uninstalled 😕
Since I've started playing two months ago, we got 2 new temples, which was nice. But I thought we woulda gotten new places to gather resources from, which didn't happen.
you seem to have not read everything completely because, and i'll spoiler here early-game things 1) nobody is surprised because humans, while uncommon, were appearing before you, the surprise is that the girlie that found us never SEEN how it happens. 2) you are established early to have amnesia, which is apparently something all humans have when they pop from the smoke. 3) you ARE home, which is something you ALSO learn very early on. its just human civilization went kaput, with most people on the surface disappearing into the thin air, and the rest (those that were left at the temples specifically) left to perish. purple peeps were born after that. yeah, this story aint that deep, but if you read into what villagers say - things with times before purple palians werent all rainbow and sunshine
@@SorarikoMotone I really haven’t played long. I was so disappointed by the bad performance on the switch (I don’t like gaming on my PC that much anymore, I prefer snuggling up on the couch) and the weird start, that I quit probably 15 minutes in. That sounds extreme, but nowadays if games don’t grab me within the first 30 minutes, they probably lose me.
Love this game too and want it to succeed :( and has anyone seen their reviews on Glassdoor? most reviews I've read from their current and former employees talked about how lacking the S6's leadership is...
Thank you for addressing the toxic moderating problem and though I’m late to watch your video the toxicity continues. You mention discord etc but this also is happening on facebook. I’m a nice person and want to share videos and tell stories using the game Palia so I have no interest in arguing or insulting people in any group I join, yet I’ve been banned from two groups and four messenger groups. 🤷♀️the groups not only kicked me out they also banned me making sure I can’t find them again to rejoin. I don’t have multiple accounts and I figured if they act like children I neither want nor need to be in their group. I have found a good group that’s very small right now but it’s uncensored so we can talk openly but players are in shock and are still not opening up. I have been told in a large group I managed to stay in that some of my posts are refused because they go against terms and conditions? So apparently posting a link to a page that shares the positions of the rummage piles every day is wrong but it’s okay if I go and find them and share the positions (because I have nothing better to than do something already done!) i was not allowed even discuss the change of pallium nodes distribution and then the glitch that gave us the green trash cans all over the bay - nope too much posting about that. But they want feedback don’t they? Apparently they only want it if it’s kind and positive. Thank you so much for addressing this very important issue, I really want Palia to succeed, it’s so beautiful and engrossing for me to play but this toxic backdrop in the social pages needs to be discouraged and stamped out. Will be following you from now on and have subscribed. 🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷.
This is why I've been reporting bugs when I see them and haven't bought anything from the in game shop... Boy I'm glad I got rid of discord a while ago if it sounds that bad... Honestly pretty decent game if you just wanna zone out in and ignore everything else. 🤣
I downloaded and played it on switch over the weekend. Its ok overall but I can tell I will get bored of the gameplay loop pretty quick. Performance was meh with frequent softlocks and required many reboots. Thankfully the autosave feature works well. The community seems friendly and not very toxic. There are many farm/village sims on the switch that are better regardless of price as the cost with these games are time, not money. I would recommend Stardew Valley over Palia.
@@XoloQueue they really don't care about there game and only hire palia partners to show off cosmetics that they get for free and defend them with there lives
lol at most of these "complaints". I guess people with a negative perspective in life are gonna complain about anything though... even if it is of their own doing through ignorance or self entitlement. The people complaining about the "grind" are the same people that will complain that there's nothing to do. The people complaining about the premium outfits don't appreciate the fact that they paid zero dollars for hours of entertainment and that there is in fact hundreds (thousands if you count colors) of clothing combinations that come with the FREE game. The people complaining about the social aspects of the game are spending more time complaining than redirecting that energy into actually making friends in game and being a part of a fun and engaging community. But hey, if you want to compare everything you experience in your life to what could be better then this is the consequence. Maybe try coming back in a few more months if you can't handle the amount of content and bugs currently in the game. If you're able to manage your expectations and see things other than from a selfish perspective you'll be a much happier person.
Being a free to play game doesn't give you a free pass to overpromise, and underdeliver. It also doesn't give you a free pass to false advertise on Steam and the Nintendo eShop. This is like saying it's ok if a barista spits in my drink if the drink was "on the house". The only reason why I've been as tolerant of the bugs as I have been is because 1) I want this game to succeed 2)I knew the game is free to play 3)I knew the game was in open beta before I downloaded it and was willing to give it a chance. When the devs promise an mmo experience, and players get mad that they haven't delivered, that's not "ignorance or self-entitlement". That's a breach of TRUST. Player feedback is important. They're not just "complaints". If the devs don't listen, it ruins the experience for many people who would've otherwise enjoyed the game. The game may be free to play, but it's not free to maintain. If the devs aren't willing to listen to player feedback and take it into consideration, this game won't last very long. MMOs are supposed to be long-term.
@@XoloQueueYes, some of the complaints were legitimate reasons to give negative feedback. The mislabeling on Switch and Steam platforms are one of them. I personally think the PC version is mislabeled as "beta" as there has been focus on releasing to more platforms and expansions to the game rather than a focus solely on fixing bugs and making sure their game mechanics are all working properly. I do agree with you that being a free game does not entitle a developer to do something as extreme as the example you laid out. However, some concessions must be given since it is a free game. As you mentioned, it helped you to be more tolerant to the bugs. A lot of the complaints were centered around games that have been around much longer or were not free to play. What an MMO is to a person can be subjective as well. It stands for Massively Multiplayer Online, meaning, a player gets to interact with a large number of other players. I'm not sure what others consider "large" but a standard multiplayer game is 2-4 people. Every time you leave your house in Palia you are going into a server with (usually) 24 other people. If you leave that zone and come back to it, chances are that it'll be 24 new people. This is just a limit of current technology and that is what I mean when I say people can be ignorant. Can we have more people in a zone at once? Yes probably, but then people might complain about lag or some other consequence we're not thinking of. I do agree with you that MMOs are supposed to be long term though which will mean there will be some form of grind to artificially inflate play time. You brought up a good point about the game not being free to maintain which is probably the biggest danger to releasing an MMO. I don't think devs should have to listen to every suggestion given, especially since a lot of suggestions are made out of laziness. Players love to ruin games for themselves and a good dev will think of ways to try to prevent this. That being said, the large amount of employees needed to run an MMO and server costs can rack up fast so a lot of devs can cave in to some of the more petty requests which can be just as destructive to the lifetime of a game as a greedy dev just milking a game for the cash shop.
I started playing during the last closed beta. Ive sunk a couple hundred hours in and had a blast! But once youve done the main progressions you end up not having much to do. I have just been waiting for them to add more content, and progression systems into the game. It makes me sad that the devs and community are shady. Because I feel like this game has a lot of potential for depth and coziness.
There's really not enough social content to call this a MMO. It's more lika a desktop distraction game where you just happen to share play space with a few random players.
Hmmmm this is interesting but I got the game on Switch and knew it was in open beta. It’s on the title. Have been very comfortable and really enjoying it. Not sure I agree with your review but you are entitled to it.
This isn't a review. This is a PSA. Also, the "open beta" tag is only visible once you open the game. That's far too late. This is not a normal business practice. It comes of as shady, and erodes player trust. You should try the PC version if you can, btw. It's much better. Also, thanks for watching. :)
Thanks for this indepth update about what’s going on w the game. I stopped playing after a while ages ago now n didn’t know about how bad things have gotten. Hopefully things improve but for now I don’t see myself returning any time soon🤕
Yeah... like I said, it wasn't a fun video to make, but it was necessary. It's really a shame. The game has excellent housing, but it's so empty. I think the game will be more casual for me as time goes on.
Ah yes "It's free, just uninstall if you have criticism". Got curious, just looked at the discussion, my gods the fanboys are deluded. You can love a game and still be critical. Nothing will improve if everyone just praises the crap out of things they like. Clearly there are issues with the game, people are free to be critical about it, but nope, fanboys think they will be the bestests of friends with the developers and get to be invited for their wedding party if they attack anyone who dares to say anything negative.
I've been playing for several weeks and can honestly not understand what people are moaning about? I haven't encountered any major issues at all and certainly nothing game breaking. There is loads to do and already a nice community. I genuinely believe people just enjoy complaining and finding fault. If you didn't know it was in beta then that's on you for not doing your homework. The charges for outfits are definitely expensive but they are 100% cosmetic and no-one is forcing anyone to buy them. It's a free game that's still be developed FFS.
I'm inclined to think that you possibly haven't played enough hours to encounter a game breaking bug. I've had to use the unstuck function when climbing and cooking several times. I couldn't progress in the Temple of the Winds for weeks due to a bug that prevented me from progressing. Just 3 days ago, my screen went black, but I could still see the HUD. Restarting the game didn't help, and I had to go on their bug forums to figure out what to do to fix it. I can't really fault people for not knowing it was open beta, when the devs seemed to want to hide it until you actually open the game. If you watched the Steam or Switch trailers, no where does it say the game is in open beta. It is the responsibility of the devs to communicate this in a way that is not obfuscated to the general public, and they've failed to do that, and still continue to gaslight and omit the information on their store pages. These aren't minor complaints.
@@XoloQueue I've probably played a couple of hundred hours at least and, yes, I've had to use the unstuck thing a few times but it's a very minor inconvenience imo.
@@GoingGreyer So you missed where an entire creature was removed accidently in an update and people had to wait a month for it to return, haulting a core story quest for many? And in some cases a gift giving option, which not as big, but nonetheless annoying? The sheer amount of bugs I've encountered that have been around since closed beta is almost laughable if it weren't so sad.
I kind of entered both the switch and steam's palia with the understanding of them still being beta as I saw no "official release" I do agree. They should be very frank about the state of the game. I do like Palia don't get me wrong. The grind is a lot though And makes it hard to return consistently.
Steam is horrible anyway. I play palia on the switch, but if I was to use another platform, I'd choose Epic Games, not Steam. I can't believe that you have to pay to be able to write a review on Steam. Steam definitely isn't for me. I give it 1 star. ⭐️ Also, I'm pretty sure that Nintendo had Palia on their Newsfeed, and it said Open Beta on it -unless I saw it when making an S6 account?
There's a few things I would like to clarify. 1)You do not have to pay to be able to write a review on steam. You just have to own the game, and if you got the game for free, there's a checkbox for that. I'm not sure where you got that info. 2)Idk about the Nintendo newsfeed, but the Palia store page on both Steam and the Nintendo eShop are what most people will see before they decide to download. That is the one place the word "beta" should be, and it's still not! 3) I like your name.
9:05 rofl. this game was dead on conception. i wonder if they ever planned on making it a good game, maybe its meant for crazy woke people to plot in secrecy. XD (Edit) hold on...... this game had 50 MILLION DOLLARS BACKING IT! AND THIS IS WHAT THEY MADE! damn i would make an amazing game with only 10grand >.> and part of that would be to upgrade my rig and take a class >.> WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE!
the devs, discord mods and reddit mods dont like anything being pointed out. they delete any kind of criticism. itll be their own doing if they continue to ignore their players
The "not fitting in their clique" is in game too. Recently brought 15 of my friends to Palia, we were running around , chopping trees and mining , just all the things . A grove spawns, my group and i call it out and wait for folks to show up , then another person calls it out and everybody flocks to them , we wait patiently , still nobody , so we start chopping trees. Get called names , told we "stole " the trees for "everybody who worked so hard to make it happen" Yeah me and my friends ...... there is resource gatekeeping going on . AND the resources take forever to spawn again. I am a solo player , i find corners to do my thing alone as i dont fit in with everybody else . I have warned the players that as soon as its out of beta there are going to be throngs of people coming to play , some very toxic players. I dont think ill be playing anymore , it was a good 6 months , but im over it now , tired of being left out and mistreated in a game.
I'm sorry to hear that 😔
I also thought that with their Steam launch that the game is no longer on beta
I can see why. If I hadn't already been playing the game, I would've thought the same thing.
Same, I had no idea it was in Beta I have only been playing since the Switch launch and never saw "Beta" mentioned anywhere
Might wait PS5 or Xbox series x release when it be out of beta who know
Some pets and costumes should be obtainable in-game
The only free stuff we get is friend code rewards and promotional stuff like twitch drops
There are a HUGE amount of costumes available free in the game when you launch the game. No free pets, though. You must not have played it yet. They were actually very generous with the number of clothing options they give us for free.
they launched the pets to reward those who are giving this vote of confidence to a new company with their game in open beta, but in the future they intend to do something more about this
@Violetbunnyfish the clothing options they gave us are sub-par at best. But yeah, there are a decent amount of options. Still, a 50$ outfit is fn ridiculous. 15$ minimum for a new outfit.
@@beepboop97 Yeah I agree, the free options aren't exactly good enough to make buying clothes an actual choice. Which is a tactic used by the companies a lot of those devs come from. Sure you don't have to buy the clothes, but if want your character to actually look nice? You will pay.
For an MMO that is supposed to be social aspect focus it is severely lacking, it's more like a single player game with minimal player to player interaction
Ironically, I think that's why I like the game. xD
@@XoloQueuesame, i like that there are other ppl but I dont have to interact with them
It would have been better sold as a single player experience.
This is some disappointing news
Yeah... :(
Free to play is no excuse for all the issues of this game. I played other ftp mmo's with much more content. I really like Palia but after playing a while I'm getting bored with all the grind. Collecting hours and hours flow trees for just one piece of furniture isn't enough. For a game with such a high development budget it really should offer more than only 2 maps and 3 huntable animals.
I'm not active on discord so I didn't know about the community issues. ingame I always thought the community is very friendly.
I play since open beta and right now I only join when a new update is released. That's ok for a ftp game but it is not enough for spending money for overprized cosmetics.
Yeah, I've always had nice interactions in game (whenever I happen to see people, that is). I was kinda hoping to have more things to collect and gather by this point. 2 maps is pretty small. We're talking PSO2 levels of spaceship small, but at least that game has instances to queue up with people. We need something like that in Palia.
I kind-of agree with the notion that if the game is free-to-play, it doesn't really harm the consumer to not divulge that the game is not complete and actually in beta or early access.
That said, it's still an INCREDIBLY STUPID thing to do because it DOES, in fact, hurt the gamedevs themselves and their game. They are just shooting themselves in the foot!!!
Its all self-inflicted /:
ive put so much time into this game, and i love it so much. but it really is hard to ignore all of these red flags 😔
I know how you feel 😞
This may have been mentioned already in the comments, but the Switch version doesn’t even say “beta” on the main menu of the game. They removed it when porting to Switch. Super unethical in my opinion.
"Like getting a free bag of chips, only realizing it's a free sample" Nah, more like, getting a free can of energy drink, and no where on the packaging/can does it say anything, except after you consume some, the person handing out the free drink then notifies you that the drink is still in development, and may contain unfinished, untested chemicals and vitamins from "trust me bro" sources. But don't worry, don't complain, because it's free.
May or may not contain a few bugs and glitches here or there, don't worry about it.
LMAO 🤣
I really like the game but i have not joined their discord and now i know to just stay away from it. I did find an awesome youtuber who plays the game and have joined his discord and all those members are awesome! I mostly play as a single player. I will keep playing but hopefully it gets better! Thanks for the information about what's been going on! ❤
Thanks for watching! I love this game and want it to succeed well into the future.
Is the UA-camr persvial?
Yeah, game chat is very nice, discord not so much. Hard to believe it's the same people on both places. I think Discord was hijacked by those people that like to make everything political.
I once said that I think we don't have many girly and cute outfits and hairstyles in Palia and that I'm really not a fan of the androgen look going on, and people in chat acted like it was an attack on LGBT community or something. And I was like "it's a freaking game, get your politics out of it!"
I have never had a problem with singularity6 or palia. The thing with beta is you have to go to their website or be in discord or have been with the community for a while. I came into this game wanting to be left alone (i dont like multiplayer). I have never seen the issues mentioned in the discord or community. Bugs are an issue because its still in BETA you have to give feed back for them to even fix it. They are still making new content and fixing bugs. I do agree with the cosmetics atea tho
That's fair. It's just alarming when early Alpha players are saying they're not listening to feedback when we're in open Beta now. It kinda makes you wonder... yunno?
@XoloQueue yea I get where people are coming from. Singularity6 needs to be more organized and cater more to the people who play their games. I get the whole 'if you don't like it get losts' but that's bad business in the first place especially when the people they are telling to 'get lost' make very valid points
I agree that the outfits are SO expensive, but I havent had any issues with Discord or the Mods/Devs being nasty (but maybe I am not on there enough to see it)
That was not my experience. I found Palia Discord to be very nasty if one doesn't agree with the mob mentality. I only go there now for game help, not to chat.
palia fan long before steam launch, just tried it out and it genuinely feels like it runs worse on steam, which is wild. ive never had a game open up and say press any button only to not respond to the A button. i just wanted to be mad abt it somewhere
LOL. I've been seeing some weird new bugs on Steam for sure. Not sure why, but it is concerning.
Yes it should be $2.00 to $3.00 for a outfit but it could be worse like a gotcha game like town of fantasy or genshin impact. If you want good game wait for Fastasy Life The Girl who steal time on nintendo switch. Singularity 6 acting like Rockstar Game at this point how they treat there consumers
I can buy clothing irl for $2.00-$3.00. LOL
i played the game about 8 months ago, i liked it at first but problems in-game became too much so stopped playing after some time
but i'm a little confusio..is it STILL in beta right now??
Yes. It's been less than a year since they started the open beta, so that's not weird.
Sounds like a perfectly normal open beta to me. Only gripe I'd have is the fail of it being mentioned on Steam and Nintendo Switch, but everything else sounds perfectly normal.
As for the Discord stuff, it's hard to say without any screenshots. I will hold off my judgment on that until I see some evidence.
Oh yeah and I almost forgot: y'all are trippin' about the skin prices. It's not 50 quid for a skin. It's 50 for a SET of THREE skins, each with their own flair and usually THREE colours each, making it a total of NINE skins. And you don't have to buy the set. If you like just one skin, you can buy it separately. Palia has some of the most affordable skins in the FTP model. Again: y'all be trippin'.
It's not 3 skins. It's 1 skin with 3 variations. The changes aren't different enough to be described as "3 skins" imo. You can't mix and match the pieces into a single outfit price so you're forced to buy the entire bundle to get the exact piece, texture, and color combination you want. Other ftp games would sell this as recolors or chromas, NOT standalone skins. One bundle is 5,100 Palia coins, so it's basically a $50 skin. I would argue that Palia has some of the LEAST affordable skins I've ever seen in a FTP game. What makes it worse, is they are selling these skins at this price, while in open beta. That is crazy. The fact that they still haven't changed the store pages to state that the game is actually in open beta, despite feedback and backlash from the player base is sneaky and erodes player trust.
I agree with you with the screenshots thing. That being said, I felt it would be a disservice not to include those reviews in the video since there were more than 10 that mentioned issues with the discord. Many of them mentioned messages being deleted by mods. At first, I thought maybe it was just a couple of salty outliers, but over 10? That's a bit concerning. Thanks for your comment. And thanks for watching, btw. :)
@@XoloQueueI agree with your assessment on the skins, if there was more fluidity between colors and individual items it would be easier to write off
It doesn’t sit right that aspects of climbing, bug catching, hunting, and Tamala’s house are still broken yet they’re raking in easily thousands of dollars from the premium store :/
Also other players are constantly glitching around me
Where is that money going???
@@XoloQueuealso, first video I’ve seen and I love your name 😭 subscribed!
Thank you!
@@XoloQueue You would both be wrong... It's 1 skin with 3 variations and then 3 variations of that.. At the end of the day it's still 9 skins, even if they are similar.
You may argue that they have the most expensive FTP skins, but definitely not, they are in the high range for sure, but i play many FPT games with skins can be between 30-50 and then there are the games you pay for that are 30-50 dollars for skins...
I've been on the front line of calling Palia out, but we look bad if we over exaggerate the state of it.
I left the discord after two moments. The server is heavily in fandom and trying to envolve myself in it, i pointed out something i found in one of the npcs room. Brought it up and was immediately dismissed like it wasnt worth discussing cause it didnt fit the narrative of the npc they assumed or wanted. The second was being ignored. Id comment, interact, and nothing. Theyed responed to comments directly above and below mine on multipe discussions, but i was effectively given a chat room silent treatment. So i bounced.
Sorry to hear that
Man this hurts to find out the devs are like this however most in game have been nice every now and then i get a jerk and have read stories of a gay kid being bullued by girls n crap and i agree im ok with micros in the free too play but they way to high priced. And some of the streamers like Percival have been saying its a beta i guess i know why i dont mind the glitchyness too much but this bug were ur character freezes sux. Andi get what they mean about the devs The ARK devs are like that ban u for reporting glitches n crap. I still like the game so ill keep playing but the stuff you read off is all very fair critisms and i agree with most of itbut would still like to see it survive cuz i have made some decent friends in the game despite its flaws and the grind doesnt bother me cuz im not rushing through the story. I hope the devs smarten up. I never played stardew valley either this is my first game like this the closest ive come is ARK but i playby myself or with my gf. I used to do it too gta v online cuz if u change your ping u can get on a server alone with patients if ur like me who doesnt wanna be bullied
If you like games like Palia, perhaps I can make some suggestions for alternative games other than Stardew Valley. I've played Bandle Tale and have had a really good time. It's super cute with nice lo-fi beats that keep me relaxed. Farm Together is another really good farming sim where you can visit other people's plots online, but you're not obligated to interact with anyone. Both of these games I mentioned have some neat home customization and decorating options. Neither of them are free, but they do go on sale from time to time and are very fun and relaxing to play. :)
@@XoloQueue are they on switch or only pc? Ill keep an eye out for them tho
Both games are on Switch and PC
Thanks for the video. I found the game simply as a free to play on steam. Wife liked it so we had fun doing all the starting items. Were playing slow enough to not have the grinding same items affect us yet. I can definately see the points of the comments. I'm on the fence too but as someone who just found it and hasn't spent anything on the game cant argue much for hours of free game time with the fam.
As long as you're having fun, that's all that matters, honestly. :)
My steam review.
If ya want casual lil game similar to diablo 4 where you can just play in a world populated by players with not much but still somewhat nice possibilities to play together mainly thinking about benefits of hunting with friends but even then we have had fun just competing between friends about progress and monetary gain while also just learning whatever roundabout secrets etc we can find and share, i do agree with the opinion of many other players about increasing the multiplayer aspect but even then id likely just want like a community/guild plot/house to build and share resources together in, also finding out early on about easy moneymaking with gems was quite a fun and nice way to ease off the need to grind much.
But yeah havent bought anything personally but id gladly buy 20 euro outfits to support the game expecially seeing that the quality of them is totally worth it, also ya do get the pets too just buying the credits so seems pretty easy.
I wish you could buy the pets separately.
The only point of comparison between Diablo IV and Palia is that somehow D4 has better character customization and cosmetics than the cozy life sim game that touted how well they did both of those things.
@@Kalyahna LMAO
They weren’t ready for steam and it was a joke they should of fixed the bugs before rolling out new junk
It's so sad because so far I actually really enjoyed the story of a "lost civilisation" and the ruins everywhere...its really good there is great potential....tf are they doing with it?! DONT RUIN THIS GAME PLS PLS!
My thoughts exactly.
I mean these review bombers are talking about toxic people not game. Trust me as long time MMO player you can ALWAYS find toxic people. I played wow for years moderators were always slow and often didn't give two shits about most the trolls and toxic people if they didn't cross a line like people don't get this there is a line in the sand in MMOs and vets know these lines. Everything you explained and complained about has been out since the first MMO cosmetic item lol. Likerememberr wow cash shop pets people would try to brag about it, and "poor shame" I just ignored them, and moved the hell on with my life lol.
You don't even want to get me started on MMO bugs there was multiple instances where I couldn't even play a game I paid a SUBCRIPTION for one or more days and had to get sub days added to my account pushing billing date. Which is really annoying. None this is new complaints about MMOs. ESPECIALLY on steam who has some the most toxic players out there, like steam forums are starting to rival COD kids these days for toxicity. especially in reveiws.
I can tell you didn't actually watch the video. Lol
1) Palia is CLEARLY not an MMO (this is false advertising. Even the good reviews admit to it)
2) The devs are STILL lying about the open beta status of the game on their store fronts.
You've missed the entire point of the video.
Toxicity might sound trivial but the sheer number of reviews that mentioned it was alarming.
Those who did this are simply rotten!!, they forget that this game is free! I play on a Switch and is it the best at the moment? nooo.. However, Palia is still a fantastic game. Go over and hammer games such as Disney Dramlight Valley which is NOT free, obtained for a heavy fee, far more glitchy than Palai and includes outrageous in-game purchases for "premium items" (which should be included because those supplied with the game are nothing but crap) All of you who felt the need to bash Palia should be congratulated on many people losing their jobs, well done...
"Bashing" Palia, and people getting laid off have absolutely nothing to do with each other. A lot of layoffs are happening throughout the gaming industry (and the entire economy), right now, so it's not exactly unexpected. The game is free. Why would that lead to layoffs if people aren't playing while they're STILL IN DEVELOPMENT? The idea that negative player feedback had led to layoffs is ridiculous and laughable. The devs aren't even listening to the player feedback in the first place.
Also the game being free doesn't excuse shitty behavior. Stop trying to shield the same people who are actively lying to you and losing player trust. This is player feedback, not "bashing". I'm not going to go and criticize that random Disney game you just mentioned. Why? I don't play the game, and don't want to. This video is about Palia, so saying "but this game over here is worse!" Is completely irrelevant.
It's amazing to me that people are still out here defending S6 despite the facts. It's ok to like a game, and have criticism. In fact, I would say that some of the reviews probably came from some of the most loyal and dedicated players. Many of them played this game from is very early stages. If we don't speak up now, and express our concerns, we are doing a disservice to literally everyone (including the devs at S6).
If they are getting laid off becuase of backlash and people no longer playing the game, then in truth that has more to do with the development and how they handled things. It's like Kill The Justice League, or Skull and Bones, those games tanked tremendously because they over promised and did some shit things and some bad choices. Granted people paid up front for those games, but Free to Play doesn't mean you can offer horse shit with gold flakes on it and call it a golden stone and that be okay.
Also, as many who have play tested games before, the current state of the game isn't where most games are expected to be when in an open beta cycle. Often open beta is used to stress test servers, if it is an multiplayer game, and hammer out any remaining bugs that might be present. Open beta is to make sure the game is as stable as it can be when launched. It's why AAA developers have lost so much love in recent years and why studios like Laraian are industry darlings. BG 3 was insanely stable at launch mostly considering they under guessed how many would be playing at launch.
People unhappy with S6's behavior and pointing it out, are not to blame. It's S6's shit behavior and poor choices that are.
I hate that it takes a long time to craft stuff, literally hours just to make a house
Yeah it's pretty insane, especially early on when you're not sure what the next steps are.
The house is the longest thing, everything is quite quick
Coming from other cozy games its pretty standard to have to wait to build houses
Palia community in game is very nice and helpful and I never had any bad experiences in game chat. Palia discord, in other hand, can be very hostile, to the point I only go there now for game help but not just to chat about the game, cause any criticism would be immediately squashed.
I went to Palia discord thinking I would find a community like Animal Crossing Pocket Camp, that is the most wholesome community ever, but instead I found a chat full of toxic positivity.
Yikes. I've also had a good experience with people in game. I think I'll take the advice of others and not even enter the discord. They'll probably just kick me for joining at this point. They've probably seen this video. LMAO
Palia is basically a home decorating game like ACNH but more stressful. It is very far from being complete and I am surprised they released this game in this state despite them saying its closed beta, they should have worked on it for a bit longer before " release". the main quest is shallow and quick to complete, leaves a lot to be desired with the added gift of unnecessary burn out.
I had originally planned to spend as much on it a month as I did in other MMOs, but once I got playing, I realized how very little content it had compared to them. I bought coins at the beginning, then decided no more until they finished the vaults so I bought another $30 of them last week. I'm going to need to see something really impressive to buy again though. I need a new large zone with a massive number of interesting quests and new mats or a new skill to make me feel like it's worth the money.
Reading your comment reminded me of the way some contractors get paid at various times throughout a project. It makes sense to me. I'm just too broke atm. LOL
I haven't spend any money on this game cause they still haven't added a safe paying method, one that it's not paypal or requires giving our credit card number. And honestly, the more time passes, the less I'm interested in investing in a game that is far from being a full developed game, that is full of bugs, and that is losing my interest rather quickly.
What I'm worried about is they will do what they did going from Alpha into closed beta, they wiped everything and they had the cash shop then. They refunded the coins but raised the store prices so you couldn't even rebuy your items without spending more money. I am worried something similar will happen when the game, if it does, properly launch. Because despite what they may be saying I don't trust them.
I wanted to play this game with friends. I love cozy farming Sims and the idea of an open world mmo farming sim was amazing. But after the launch of the open beta i was dissapointed. There is no reason to play together, no incentive to group up and the only things where you can play together is farming materials, the dullest mindnumbing tasks in the game. This game might be free to play but thats because there is not a lot to do in this game and nobody would pay to play this lackluster "farming sim" that limits how much you can farm....
Yunno... now that you mention it, having a limit on farming when there's no market board or mass trading mechanic in the game makes no sense. I haven't even thought of this.
I wish more people were talking about these things. Because as of S6 censoring, it's just rabid fans defending the game and having people flood steam to leave positive reviews and most of those reviews are one line, or people lying to defend the actual problems with "It's a cozy game and it's free to play"
Everything about S6 screams shady, and having tested a fair amount of games, from Alpha up and into open beta, this game as it stands is barely beta ready. And it's clear they aren't doing what Larian did which is have a small (though with Larian small was 40 hours) part of the game open so they could focus on some mecianial cores to make sure they are ready to go with launch. They literally just don't have anything. They have plans, but this stuff won't be magically in game at launch. I would bet money on that. More truthfully, I don't see the game leaving beta like Warframe so they can skirt around shit and their "cozy" fans will keep defending them.
Like I wanted this game to do well, it's something a lot of people wanted, but you can see the AAA game industry stink all over it, and I feel like the simulator crowd and cozy crowd are more easily manipulated into being okay with these red flags than other gamers. Sims players do it too. EA messes up big time and they forget and forgive in like a week, even though the game is still massively broken.
Yeah we can't be holding games to a low standard, ESPECIALLY when there's so much money behind this one.
I still think this game will become what DDLV could only hope to be. I use them to compare because of how terrible DDLV played on the switch, and the fact that DDLV is filled with micro transactions that arent so micro and palia has the costumes. They are both fetch quest heavy and contain many npcs. I like farming better in DDLV but Palia is much more cozy, and if they released another map and add on to the characters it would be even more amazing. I hope the devs change their ways though...
I want more things to work towards. Another map would be really nice. The game feels waaaay too small atm.
Jeez watching this, knowing they laid off so many employees...safe to say they aren't gonna be really trying anymore
Didn't know about layoffs. wow
@@XoloQueue Yeah it was recent, I really think this game is more and more looking like a quick money grab to work on something else, or for them to vanish and go back to other studios. Who knows.
@Amondra87 I have a weird feeling too they'll take the money and run. I kept telling my friend not to buy anything yet. She's glad she didn't. She stopped playing Palia with me cause of the bugs :(
@@SpookyAsuna Glad to know I'm.not the only one who worries about this.
@@SpookyAsuna That's the thing, right? People keep saying but it's in beta and they are an indie team. However, I think most can easily point the holes in the arguments. The bugs I will say while beta is for fixing bugs, "Open beta" is often when games are polished and stress testing servers to ensure stability. And the fact they kept hiding it's in beta on Switch and Steam is another giant red flag.
I was really looking forward to Palia when it got announced. I installed it on the Switch, but it was a blurry mess I just couldn’t look at. Sadly it’s not on PS5, so I sat down on my desk and installed it on PC. Looked better, but my god the first story beats were so shallow. I mean I fell out of the magic portal into a strange world and nobody even cared. Must be so traumatic for my character, I mean … can I ever go home? Do I have a family were I came from? Maybe a pet? Does time go on there? Does someone look after them? … no, nothing. Take that axe and go build a tent.
I know not every game out there can be a BG3, but I just felt immediately bored with Palia and uninstalled 😕
Since I've started playing two months ago, we got 2 new temples, which was nice. But I thought we woulda gotten new places to gather resources from, which didn't happen.
you seem to have not read everything completely because, and i'll spoiler here early-game things
1) nobody is surprised because humans, while uncommon, were appearing before you, the surprise is that the girlie that found us never SEEN how it happens.
2) you are established early to have amnesia, which is apparently something all humans have when they pop from the smoke.
3) you ARE home, which is something you ALSO learn very early on. its just human civilization went kaput, with most people on the surface disappearing into the thin air, and the rest (those that were left at the temples specifically) left to perish. purple peeps were born after that.
yeah, this story aint that deep, but if you read into what villagers say - things with times before purple palians werent all rainbow and sunshine
@@SorarikoMotone I really haven’t played long. I was so disappointed by the bad performance on the switch (I don’t like gaming on my PC that much anymore, I prefer snuggling up on the couch) and the weird start, that I quit probably 15 minutes in.
That sounds extreme, but nowadays if games don’t grab me within the first 30 minutes, they probably lose me.
And even if my character has amnesia. She’s still probably confused as heck 😅 I wouldn’t just send someone like that in the wild unsupervised 🫣
Love this game too and want it to succeed :(
and has anyone seen their reviews on Glassdoor? most reviews I've read from their current and former employees talked about how lacking the S6's leadership is...
Nice video. Im glad to see someone talking about the issues
Thanks. It wasn't until after I posted it that I realized it's true value.
Thank you for addressing the toxic moderating problem and though I’m late to watch your video the toxicity continues. You mention discord etc but this also is happening on facebook. I’m a nice person and want to share videos and tell stories using the game Palia so I have no interest in arguing or insulting people in any group I join, yet I’ve been banned from two groups and four messenger groups. 🤷♀️the groups not only kicked me out they also banned me making sure I can’t find them again to rejoin. I don’t have multiple accounts and I figured if they act like children I neither want nor need to be in their group. I have found a good group that’s very small right now but it’s uncensored so we can talk openly but players are in shock and are still not opening up. I have been told in a large group I managed to stay in that some of my posts are refused because they go against terms and conditions? So apparently posting a link to a page that shares the positions of the rummage piles every day is wrong but it’s okay if I go and find them and share the positions (because I have nothing better to than do something already done!) i was not allowed even discuss the change of pallium nodes distribution and then the glitch that gave us the green trash cans all over the bay - nope too much posting about that. But they want feedback don’t they? Apparently they only want it if it’s kind and positive. Thank you so much for addressing this very important issue, I really want Palia to succeed, it’s so beautiful and engrossing for me to play but this toxic backdrop in the social pages needs to be discouraged and stamped out. Will be following you from now on and have subscribed. 🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷.
Thanks! Sometimes all it takes is a few voices to start a conversation. I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment.
Thank you for the vid 💜
Thanks for watching!
This is why I've been reporting bugs when I see them and haven't bought anything from the in game shop...
Boy I'm glad I got rid of discord a while ago if it sounds that bad...
Honestly pretty decent game if you just wanna zone out in and ignore everything else. 🤣
True!
The cake parties were fun, but things got boring real fast after the first event IMO. TBF I haven't even played in 3+ months though
I tried it on switch because it's the only mmo on switch. The concept is interesting but the result is mediocre.
I downloaded and played it on switch over the weekend. Its ok overall but I can tell I will get bored of the gameplay loop pretty quick.
Performance was meh with frequent softlocks and required many reboots. Thankfully the autosave feature works well. The community seems friendly and not very toxic.
There are many farm/village sims on the switch that are better regardless of price as the cost with these games are time, not money.
I would recommend Stardew Valley over Palia.
Bandle Tale was fun, also.
The fact that this whole video is still true to this day it's crazy to me
LMFAO. yeah I was gonna do an update video, but nothing has really changed.
@@XoloQueue they really don't care about there game and only hire palia partners to show off cosmetics that they get for free and defend them with there lives
lol at most of these "complaints". I guess people with a negative perspective in life are gonna complain about anything though... even if it is of their own doing through ignorance or self entitlement. The people complaining about the "grind" are the same people that will complain that there's nothing to do. The people complaining about the premium outfits don't appreciate the fact that they paid zero dollars for hours of entertainment and that there is in fact hundreds (thousands if you count colors) of clothing combinations that come with the FREE game. The people complaining about the social aspects of the game are spending more time complaining than redirecting that energy into actually making friends in game and being a part of a fun and engaging community. But hey, if you want to compare everything you experience in your life to what could be better then this is the consequence. Maybe try coming back in a few more months if you can't handle the amount of content and bugs currently in the game. If you're able to manage your expectations and see things other than from a selfish perspective you'll be a much happier person.
Being a free to play game doesn't give you a free pass to overpromise, and underdeliver. It also doesn't give you a free pass to false advertise on Steam and the Nintendo eShop. This is like saying it's ok if a barista spits in my drink if the drink was "on the house". The only reason why I've been as tolerant of the bugs as I have been is because 1) I want this game to succeed 2)I knew the game is free to play 3)I knew the game was in open beta before I downloaded it and was willing to give it a chance. When the devs promise an mmo experience, and players get mad that they haven't delivered, that's not "ignorance or self-entitlement". That's a breach of TRUST. Player feedback is important. They're not just "complaints". If the devs don't listen, it ruins the experience for many people who would've otherwise enjoyed the game. The game may be free to play, but it's not free to maintain. If the devs aren't willing to listen to player feedback and take it into consideration, this game won't last very long. MMOs are supposed to be long-term.
@@XoloQueueYes, some of the complaints were legitimate reasons to give negative feedback. The mislabeling on Switch and Steam platforms are one of them. I personally think the PC version is mislabeled as "beta" as there has been focus on releasing to more platforms and expansions to the game rather than a focus solely on fixing bugs and making sure their game mechanics are all working properly. I do agree with you that being a free game does not entitle a developer to do something as extreme as the example you laid out. However, some concessions must be given since it is a free game. As you mentioned, it helped you to be more tolerant to the bugs. A lot of the complaints were centered around games that have been around much longer or were not free to play.
What an MMO is to a person can be subjective as well. It stands for Massively Multiplayer Online, meaning, a player gets to interact with a large number of other players. I'm not sure what others consider "large" but a standard multiplayer game is 2-4 people. Every time you leave your house in Palia you are going into a server with (usually) 24 other people. If you leave that zone and come back to it, chances are that it'll be 24 new people. This is just a limit of current technology and that is what I mean when I say people can be ignorant. Can we have more people in a zone at once? Yes probably, but then people might complain about lag or some other consequence we're not thinking of. I do agree with you that MMOs are supposed to be long term though which will mean there will be some form of grind to artificially inflate play time.
You brought up a good point about the game not being free to maintain which is probably the biggest danger to releasing an MMO. I don't think devs should have to listen to every suggestion given, especially since a lot of suggestions are made out of laziness. Players love to ruin games for themselves and a good dev will think of ways to try to prevent this. That being said, the large amount of employees needed to run an MMO and server costs can rack up fast so a lot of devs can cave in to some of the more petty requests which can be just as destructive to the lifetime of a game as a greedy dev just milking a game for the cash shop.
I started playing during the last closed beta. Ive sunk a couple hundred hours in and had a blast! But once youve done the main progressions you end up not having much to do. I have just been waiting for them to add more content, and progression systems into the game. It makes me sad that the devs and community are shady. Because I feel like this game has a lot of potential for depth and coziness.
open BEIRA
LOL
I play on switch I knew it was in beta but the graphics on switch are so bad that I have to dock it just to play it
Yeah... it's pretty bad. I just tried it on switch and was like.... "bruh"
There's really not enough social content to call this a MMO. It's more lika a desktop distraction game where you just happen to share play space with a few random players.
LMAO
Hmmmm this is interesting but I got the game on Switch and knew it was in open beta. It’s on the title. Have been very comfortable and really enjoying it. Not sure I agree with your review but you are entitled to it.
This isn't a review. This is a PSA. Also, the "open beta" tag is only visible once you open the game. That's far too late. This is not a normal business practice. It comes of as shady, and erodes player trust. You should try the PC version if you can, btw. It's much better. Also, thanks for watching. :)
Good grief. Free game, regular updates definitely a work in progress.the paid costumes help in the development. Crying about nothing
So lying is excused because it's free?
Thanks for this indepth update about what’s going on w the game. I stopped playing after a while ages ago now n didn’t know about how bad things have gotten. Hopefully things improve but for now I don’t see myself returning any time soon🤕
Yeah... like I said, it wasn't a fun video to make, but it was necessary. It's really a shame. The game has excellent housing, but it's so empty. I think the game will be more casual for me as time goes on.
Ah yes "It's free, just uninstall if you have criticism". Got curious, just looked at the discussion, my gods the fanboys are deluded. You can love a game and still be critical. Nothing will improve if everyone just praises the crap out of things they like. Clearly there are issues with the game, people are free to be critical about it, but nope, fanboys think they will be the bestests of friends with the developers and get to be invited for their wedding party if they attack anyone who dares to say anything negative.
I've been playing for several weeks and can honestly not understand what people are moaning about? I haven't encountered any major issues at all and certainly nothing game breaking. There is loads to do and already a nice community. I genuinely believe people just enjoy complaining and finding fault. If you didn't know it was in beta then that's on you for not doing your homework. The charges for outfits are definitely expensive but they are 100% cosmetic and no-one is forcing anyone to buy them. It's a free game that's still be developed FFS.
I'm inclined to think that you possibly haven't played enough hours to encounter a game breaking bug. I've had to use the unstuck function when climbing and cooking several times. I couldn't progress in the Temple of the Winds for weeks due to a bug that prevented me from progressing. Just 3 days ago, my screen went black, but I could still see the HUD. Restarting the game didn't help, and I had to go on their bug forums to figure out what to do to fix it. I can't really fault people for not knowing it was open beta, when the devs seemed to want to hide it until you actually open the game. If you watched the Steam or Switch trailers, no where does it say the game is in open beta. It is the responsibility of the devs to communicate this in a way that is not obfuscated to the general public, and they've failed to do that, and still continue to gaslight and omit the information on their store pages. These aren't minor complaints.
@@XoloQueue I've probably played a couple of hundred hours at least and, yes, I've had to use the unstuck thing a few times but it's a very minor inconvenience imo.
@@GoingGreyer So you missed where an entire creature was removed accidently in an update and people had to wait a month for it to return, haulting a core story quest for many? And in some cases a gift giving option, which not as big, but nonetheless annoying? The sheer amount of bugs I've encountered that have been around since closed beta is almost laughable if it weren't so sad.
I kind of entered both the switch and steam's palia with the understanding of them still being beta as I saw no "official release" I do agree. They should be very frank about the state of the game.
I do like Palia don't get me wrong. The grind is a lot though And makes it hard to return consistently.
Played this when it first released. 100% the non-existent playing with friends and cosmetic price turned me off.
Steam is horrible anyway. I play palia on the switch, but if I was to use another platform, I'd choose Epic Games, not Steam. I can't believe that you have to pay to be able to write a review on Steam. Steam definitely isn't for me. I give it 1 star. ⭐️ Also, I'm pretty sure that Nintendo had Palia on their Newsfeed, and it said Open Beta on it -unless I saw it when making an S6 account?
There's a few things I would like to clarify.
1)You do not have to pay to be able to write a review on steam. You just have to own the game, and if you got the game for free, there's a checkbox for that. I'm not sure where you got that info.
2)Idk about the Nintendo newsfeed, but the Palia store page on both Steam and the Nintendo eShop are what most people will see before they decide to download. That is the one place the word "beta" should be, and it's still not!
3) I like your name.
9:05 rofl.
this game was dead on conception.
i wonder if they ever planned on making it a good game, maybe its meant for crazy woke people to plot in secrecy. XD
(Edit) hold on...... this game had 50 MILLION DOLLARS BACKING IT! AND THIS IS WHAT THEY MADE!
damn i would make an amazing game with only 10grand >.> and part of that would be to upgrade my rig and take a class >.> WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE!
the devs, discord mods and reddit mods dont like anything being pointed out. they delete any kind of criticism. itll be their own doing if they continue to ignore their players
You know it's bad when you see almost 10 comments mentioning the discord on the steam reviews. I think I will live in bliss and not join it haha.