@@luizcandidoborges2282 Football Marx's The Capital was published in 1867. The first football association club were formed in 1863. I am not a genius, I am simply well-read.
@@JesseArt I have read his ideas. They are poorly thought out and don't hold up to any sort of critical analysis. However, I have also studied his life. He sat and fed off his rich capitalist friend's money, and dreamed of how much better the world would be if everyone followed his ideology. He never actually cared about anyone but himself.
@@ReinoutVrijhoef They're still his hands, aren't they? Or, in a communist state, are they considered shared property (e.g., means of production and all that)?
@@khangasOozaki Perhaps. You might "have" hands in the sense that they are attached (or unattached) to the body you inhabit, but it is the collective that "owns" the hands, proprietarily speaking, as they exist to serve the interests of the communist revolution.
@@Nick154999 Before beeps, races were started by a human with a pistol that said, "On your marks... get set... GO!" (and shot the pistol at the same time as shouting, "GO!"). "Marks" were objects or lines on the ground before blocks were used. Marx was German but had a huge influence on Russians, Starlin and Trotsky who interpreted his writing differently and formed opposing parties after the Russians Revolution. Onya is a Russian name. Onya Marks sounds like, "On your marks" The joke implies Marks had a familial link to Russia. Jokes need the audience to put together missing information themselves, and they laugh if they're successful; there's a lot to put together in this one so most people won't get it! 🥰
The true kings of comedy. Sadly Karl lost both hands but Eric Idle was in such a chipper mood he gave him the non materialistic lounge suite for his troubles but wouldn’t give him a hand to get it out the door
The lounge suite was the perfect choice for Marx, a parasitic layabout who never had a real job. He was a 19th century analogue of today's mom's-basement-keyboard-warrior-brony. In My Little Pony Land, there's no student debts, and It's OK to have needs, because the other guy has abilities.
ehh... that's kind of a stretch, but it did remind me that Cuba beat America and Dominica Republic in the baseball world classic nearly every time. The world classic is like the Fifa for baseball, but is dramatically less popular. It's also a joke how sad the national baseball team of China is. They literally lose to everyone by 20+ runs.
matthieuriolo Please tell me you don't genuinely believe that socialist governments kill their own athletes' families or actually punished them in any way as harsh as that for not winning sports competitions.
I was a kid at school when Monty Python started, and used to stay up to watch the show which was on about 11pm. It made every other comedy programme look tired and dull, and opened up wonderful new areas. It was so exciting, and the only drawback is that nothing I can think of since has lived up to the promise it made. Now the world is still a mess, and maybe I’m wrong but I think we have nothing like this now. Oh well....
Comedy relies on contrast, the more extreme the better, but political correctness slaps criticism of divergence down. At root, conformity and political extremism are at odds, so there is still plenty of scope.
@@JelMain political correctness slaps down divergence, not criticism of divergence. I don’t think MP was actually political on the whole, they laughed at everything in a completely anarchic way. People will politicize their comedy because they are like that. There’s trouble now because the pc left can’t tolerate dissent. I don’t remember much complaining about Python in the 60s.
I was probably around 10 years old when I was introduced to Monty Python. My uncle, who is about 5 years older than me introduced me to it. One of the first skits I saw was the Oscar Wilde “your majesty is like.” Although a lot of the more complex humor in that flew over my head it was still hilarious.
Trotsky was invited, but so was Stalin. so Stalin and Trotsky were fighting each other in the parking lot with baseball bats when they saw each other, and since neither showed up into the studio on time, the producers had to go on without Stalin and Trotsky
The best part of the sketch is the subtext in it. It doesn’t matter if you want to help the working class, because football is much more important to the media and in short term also to the masses than their own well-being.
I can see that interpretation but I think now we have the opposite problem and everything is political. I just want to watch a basketball game but I have to hear a sermon about equity or whatever.
I think its more, you want to help them, yet 1. jobs come from the people you dont like as you just admitted. and 2. you have no idea what the proles enjoy - eg the football and so therefore have nothing in common with them.
The reason this sketch makes me laugh is not so much the politics, but because it reminds me of being in a similar position, in the old pub quizzes. The pub quiz was always a popular form of entertainment in the UK ... now there are not so many of them around. But I would sit with my team (at a table with pint of lager) waiting hopefully for a question I could answer (history, geography, zoology etc) which seldom came ! ... it was always football, cricket, tv soaps, or formula one racing ( ... which I know nothing about)! So ... Karl, Vladimir, Che, Mao ... join the club!
Nietzsche believed that a type of ball was only a means to get a few great balls, and then to achieve even greater balls, until you had the greatest balls of all. (but, for some reason, you then had to repeat the process over and over.)
This is hilarious! Che was Argentinian, though. The CIA was absolutely positive that he was Bolivian. It is said that when they finally got him, very near to his death, after they read everything they had on him and claimed him to be Bolivian, he laughed.
You can only kill a man, an idea lives on! Murderous CIA invaders will be remembered in 100 years as just that. Che will still be a legend, loved by the people!
@@bourbonbrigade1968 che is already remembered as a serial killer pretending to be a socialist lmao He put gay people in camps and tortured everyone he could get his hands on to death. Personally. He was a serial killer who could only get his rocks off to torturing someone to death.
I interpreted that as "leader of the bolivian guerrilla", which to me would make it incredibly funny since that's not what he's known for and also that's when he kicked the bucket
@Oliver Formby Lenin was power hungry commie piece of shit , he was never good for Russia , after Lenin and his Bolshevik party did the coup , all hell broke out in Russia , a resistence against the Bolsheviks ( white army ) was assembled , the civil war between the Bolsheviks and White army caused the death of 9.5 million Russians , it would be best for Russia if Lenin's Bolshevik party never did their coup , so that the awful civil war could be avoided , people who support Lenin are not right in the head , he was an awful power hungry communist , he didn't care how many people his soldiers killed , he only cared about setting up his autoritharian communist state with himself as the dictator
@@dragoncrown2029 Just one correction. Civil War was inevitable after the Provisional Government's multiple failings in 1917. The reason Bolsheviks came to power in the first place is because there was a complete power vacuum in Petrograd. The leader at the time Kerensky had no legitimate authority beyond the walls of the Winter Palace, as the historian Orlando Figes liked to say. Some one was going to try and take the charge. It wasn't a matter of if, but when the civil war would occur. Lenin obviously had no reservations about all the horrors Russia would endure, viewing the civil war as the realisation of class struggle.
@@dragoncrown2029 The October Revolution was inevitable, Kerensky's government was unable to deliver to any of the promises they had made, they didn't retreat from ww1, they didn't improve the peasantry's conditions and if that wasn't enough they where about to allow the restoration of the tsar. The bolsheviks had much more popular support than the white guards and you can't deny by no means the huge improvement in life conditions after the civil war, huge increase in literacy rate, massive increase in life expectancy and incredibly quick industrilization. The fact that you think that some guy that was in exile can just snap his fingers and have himself an army capable of defeating the pro-tsarist counter-revolutionaries and make himself the dictator of the USSR is just not right. You should really research what you're talking about, or at the very least have the common sence to know that things don't work like that
but the joke here is that the game show host doesn't know what he is talking about. saying the louge suite is non-materalistic is just using the term incorrectly in the context. I see this sketch as just a means to simplify the discourse and muddy the water on what any of the policy or philosophy of these people were. even more telling that its framed in an popular tv quiz game show where they talk about sports statistics... I'd laugh if more people understood what this skit was really about and what the joke is other then the stuff i'm seeing in the comments of "haha look at these leaders, wasn't socialism bad? haha"
I actually thought the “This non-materialistic lounge suite'' line was the weakest part of the sketch -it was just being too obvious and lighting up a neon sign and pointing excitedly at the joke for those too thick to get it. Still, I suppose part of being a good performer is knowing your audience...
I feel people that find that funny conflate communism with post modern theories of consumer criticism. Communists don't think that people buy too many things, and communists don't think people ought to share more and be less selfish. Communism is a critique of the mode of production that leads to amassment of wealth in the hands of few while excluding those wo toil to produce that wealth on the other. It is not a critique of consumption of goods.
Right? Why is sports in there. It doesn't matter. It isn't relevant to anything in the real world. And they treat it like its equal to the other subjects. WTF is that even?
The importance of sports entertainment (and entertainment generally) must be continually impressed upon the masses. Even grown men are thrilled to wear clothing emblazoned with the name of their Sports Hero. They have been psychologically infantilized. Important to keep everyone distracted, amused, and most importantly, convinced that they ARE aware of current important events. Concentrate on the trivial, ignore reality. As the Western World is culturally and demographically decimated, the unwitting masses are well fed and immersed in frivolity.
You know monty python are the best of all time when across generations they are still funny and the jokes are still relevant for different people to get, truly genius and pioneers of the comedy genre Especially in movies, everything they made has aged remarkably
Well, the comedy certainly aged well. Not so sure about having Terry Gilliam play a Chinese man and the occasional black face routine in Flying Circus.
When Monty Python started in the 60s my older brothers watched it and the show always had them laughing so hard . They loved it. Then us younger one's got to watch it with them it was hilarious we always looked forward to it when it came on. It still just as funny as it was back then. 🤣😂😅
it's complete crap now. SNL just hired someone, then fired him before his first appearance because the sjw outrage community went digging and found something insensitive he said years ago.
Eisenwulf666 I stopped watching by the time Ackroid, Newmann, Morris had left (of course Belushi and Radner has upped and died and Chase was gone). Started out on a high.
what positive light bro? lol. Stalin sent millions of people to the gulag for basically nothing. Russians hated him in his time and definitely still despise him decades after his death.
@@theearthguy1814 Today? No. Since 1991? Also no. Since 1956, when Khruschev denounced Stalin? Also no. Under Stalin? Maybe, but they’d have to do more than just speak ill of him, and a very small percent of people went to prison (or labor camp) for political opposition. (Even 70% of the gulags were non-political inmates)
@@frenchfrysz6695 not true yet, we can still laugh don’t think like that. There’s so much pain and evil in this world and yet the progressive powers of the west wanna remove any slight chance to laugh
@@user-cs5ld9if2y no. Russia is nothing like the ussr. NATO has expanded into Ukraine and on Russias border. Russia is defending themselves from antagonizers.
The fact that MT TUNG just comes in and answers a question is comedy at it's finest. You were under the illusion the entire thing was gonna be a staring match. Then BAM - GRAATE BALLS OF FIRE!
Apparently, Coventry City has since won the English Football Cup once, in the 1986-1987 season. They beat Tottenham Hotspur 3-2 in the final, with striker Keith Houchen scoring a memorable diving header to level the score at 2-2. This was Coventry City's first major trophy in their history. (ChatGPT!)
Coventry was absolutely robbed in this year’s FA Cup semifinal against Man Utd by a stupid VAR reversal of their game winning goal. Will not be watching the final in protest.
Because things rarely ever change. Gotta wait for the complete downfall of Western-capitalist imperialism when there are 49 new countries in America and then check back for how humor has evolved. 😉
00:18 Omg I spotted a mistake! Che Guevara was not Bolivian, he was killed there while leading a guerrilla, but he was Argentinian, and a Cuban citizen as well since he participated in the Cuban revolution! ^_^
Here's the real joke: "What English Premier League team is not owned by Russian oligarch after stealing the means of production from the Russian people?
I find Marx looks more like Engels and only Lenin really looks like Lenin, only I think they gave him and Mao hats so they wouldn't have to use bald caps etc. The odd thing is that Mao would have been salvageable if they had given him Lenins costume , since the military uniform in Mao china was basically a blue-er version of the workers uniform. What ever they put him in here makes no sense. Makes you wonder if they changed the sketch last minute.
Andrew You can also describe him as having been a Cuban guerrilla commander. It's not wrong but it's not the most understandable use of the English language either. The nationality describes the organisation he had a role of leadership in ( Bolivian guerrilla), not Ché himself. Look at it this way , a US postal service worker with the Canadian nationality is both a 'US postal' worker ánd a Canadian postal worker employed by the US postal service.
When I was a kid I’d go visit my great grandparents and my great grandfather would always be watching Monty Python. I still watch this stuff because of those days. Good memories.
Would be interesting to know how Terry ranked himself, he was a keen Medieval historian, whether that was more important to him or monty python. One of Wale's finest.
Monty Python were the masters of the ridiculous sketch and this is no exception. But that throwaway line at the end made me laugh rather more loudly than I was expecting.
All I can think of is the sketch from FC where contestants had to summarize the works of Proust in 10 seconds or less... Something to the effect of "since we don't have a winner, first prize goes to the girl with the biggest tits!"
@John LaFever . Like most people that never read the communist manifesto and then just repeat what other uninformed people said about it, your idea of communism is way off. There is nothing connecting communism to the atrocities committed by 'communist' dictators. I can come up with examples of capitalist countries ruled by dictators that are just as bad. Inform yourself please.
@John LaFever yeah sure, get mad, why not? Why exactly do you accuse me of having a ' reading comprehension problem'? So you have read the communist manifesto, or did you read about it? And btw, as far as my memory about the book goes, Marx never promised a 'sweet smelling paradise', instead he warned about economical issues, which for a large part came true. And suggested an alternative for capitalism ( which ,as im sure you know ,is just the next step after feudalism, introduced mostly after the french revolution, together with enlightenment). Instead, it's the capitalist creed that says ' you can become whatever you want as long as you work for it', which is not true for most people. Unless you're rich, you're just a puppet, working to make someone else rich. Or read about it here:en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surplus_value
Guys, the joke is that these are four of the most important men in political and economic history, and Eric Idle is asking them about soccer. Not that they don't know about it.
I think you're confusing Marx and Trotsky. Marx died in London he's buried there. Trotsky was assassinated in Mexico city with an Ice pick by agents of Stalin.
Agreed, we need all the comedians and laughter we can get ! We need Benny, Dave, Rodney, and George so badly right now ! Sadly they have all passed away !:(
@@ReasonAboveEverything What do you mean "would", is this not a sketch today? Look into the comments, do you see anyone, a single person saying "uh thats yellow facing"? Youll probably find one eventually, but for very person who says that, there are thousands of people like you guys. Chill out, why be so speculative, they arent getting crucified, thats a fact, nothing to discuss here.
The attention to detail is the best part of this skit, Great Balls of Fire came out in 1957, when Mao was still alive, so it is entirely possible he actually knew the answer.
Since this was filmed in 1982 it wasn't exactly ancient history back then (25 years earlier). Today's question might include a question about Michael Jackson's "Bad" which came out in 1987 or 35 years ago (ok now I feel old).
Only the masses have to share, and they made share what little they are given. All the money stays at the top with the party leaders. Absolute power as they say....
@@dragons_red That absolute power stuff is a load of nonsense. Doesn't explain anything. There have been plenty of examples where absolute power has not corrupted and current examples today how partial (democratic) power has corrupted and the problem with partial power is it leaves anyone in it paralyzed to kick out any one who is corrupt. At least absolute power depends on the nature of the person themselves. I would take Marcus Aurelius over any of these Orwellian U.N bureaucrats anyday. Who voted them in anyway? Democracy sucks, but so does socialism and communism. Also fuck Hitler.
@Jake Williams For sure. But the state's will swing blue soon, then the only option will be for republicans to move futher left and shift the Overton window further and further left. You can already see it with gay and trans advocacy as well other policies that would of never been adopted 50 years ago
@blue heeler *makes fun of people's intelligence based on their hair colour *uses the preposition 'of' instead of the auxiliary verb 'have' because it sounds more or less the same classic
To me it was just the British accents and the British sense of morality that made them funny,they took being British and all its inane customs to task by a high level of hyperble which when done by real Brits was hilarious
"No one leaves this show empty-handed...so we're gonna cut of his hands" lol, so that's where Izzard got the joke he used in his quiz show act in Definite Article. Then again Izzard does make a ton of Python references in his comedy.
*How to do comedy:*
Step 1: Have a low budget
Step 2: Be a parody
@@historyarmyproductions Sorry is Chinese a race
@@alexh2947 They are a People, And he certainly isnt portraying them in the best light.
@@historyarmyproductions I know I just get annoyed when people say stuff like that's racist when I've said something about a country
@@alexh2947 I agree.
The men who wanted to save the working class have no idea what the working class really cares about: football.
They never wanted to save the working class.
The football was not yet created during Marx lifetime, genious!
@@Skyblade12 Maybe actually read Marx?
@@luizcandidoborges2282 Football Marx's The Capital was published in 1867. The first football association club were formed in 1863. I am not a genius, I am simply well-read.
@@JesseArt I have read his ideas. They are poorly thought out and don't hold up to any sort of critical analysis. However, I have also studied his life. He sat and fed off his rich capitalist friend's money, and dreamed of how much better the world would be if everyone followed his ideology. He never actually cared about anyone but himself.
Some comics make a normal situation into a political joke, Monty python takes something with the most potential for one and does this and I love it
they publicaly shared comunist ideas in the individual marx section, this was some high quality radicalisation techniques and i'm on board with it.
🌅🏞️😎Also, those scenes from the late 1960's...👀🏘️📚☎️🎾📚 &, thanks,
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this is political af tho
@@bogdang8759 what I mean is that it’s like actually funny. It’s comedy before commentary despite being both
@@nightyorb On the other hand, a family member was the Ukrainian goalie in the Wolves team.
It kind of blows my mind now that this sketch (1970) was released closer to the time Lenin lived (up to 1924) than the present day
wait hold on . . .
damn that really is mind blowing
Mao was also alive at the time. Guevara had died a few years earlier.
Well obviously, this is ancient TV.
@@KasumiRINA What do you mean exactyl by "TV"? ;-)
@@KasumiRINA "Ancient"?
"Marx" actually looks like Engels,
"Lenin" looks a bit like Trotsky,
"Che" somehow looks like Castro,
"Mao" definitely looks like Tito.
And all of them looks like poop
Tito Jackson?
I believe that was part of the joke.
@@markschnabel1353 😂
And "Che" is definitely not a Bolivian..
"No one leaves the show empty-handed, so we're gonna cut off his hands." Is a GEM just delivered as a throwaway line!
They are still empty, but now also detached.
@@tintinismybelgian well, he’s not going to leave with them, is he?
@@ReinoutVrijhoef They're still his hands, aren't they? Or, in a communist state, are they considered shared property (e.g., means of production and all that)?
@@tintinismybelgian so you can't claim to be communist and have hands.
"hands don't exist in my reality" ~Kaldor Draigo
@@khangasOozaki Perhaps. You might "have" hands in the sense that they are attached (or unattached) to the body you inhabit, but it is the collective that "owns" the hands, proprietarily speaking, as they exist to serve the interests of the communist revolution.
I would have thought Karl knew about sports!
After all, his wife, Onya, was an Olympic runner!
They still use her name at the start of races
You win the comment section. 👍
That's fairly amusing.
I do not get it
@@Nick154999
Before beeps, races were started by a human with a pistol that said, "On your marks... get set... GO!" (and shot the pistol at the same time as shouting, "GO!"). "Marks" were objects or lines on the ground before blocks were used.
Marx was German but had a huge influence on Russians, Starlin and Trotsky who interpreted his writing differently and formed opposing parties after the Russians Revolution.
Onya is a Russian name. Onya Marks sounds like, "On your marks"
The joke implies Marks had a familial link to Russia.
Jokes need the audience to put together missing information themselves, and they laugh if they're successful; there's a lot to put together in this one so most people won't get it! 🥰
@@Nick154999 At the beginning of a race, they say "On your marks" which sounds kind of like "Onya marx"
The true kings of comedy. Sadly Karl lost both hands but Eric Idle was in such a chipper mood he gave him the non materialistic lounge suite for his troubles but wouldn’t give him a hand to get it out the door
LOL I would give a thumbs up but that would be too ironic.
shame that joke makes no sense. Materialism is the basis of Marx's whole philosophy (it just meant something different back then)
May your long third leg never fumble a ball.
The lounge suite was the perfect choice for Marx, a parasitic layabout who never had a real job. He was a 19th century analogue of today's mom's-basement-keyboard-warrior-brony. In My Little Pony Land, there's no student debts, and It's OK to have needs, because the other guy has abilities.
@@ulture it still means the same thing, it is just one of those words that people use completely wrong.
John Cleese did not have one line in this skit and he was still hilarious.
Always is
Of course.
He did use his funny walk later to exit the stage.
The look of concentration on his face as he considers the question is fantabulous.
Agreed a hundredfold! Their facial expressions were the most hilarious, I think, particularly Michael Palin as Che. Che!
The best part is that I can't even find a political joke, the fact the entire joke is they don't know about English sports makes it so much better
ehh... that's kind of a stretch, but it did remind me that Cuba beat America and Dominica Republic in the baseball world classic nearly every time.
The world classic is like the Fifa for baseball, but is dramatically less popular.
It's also a joke how sad the national baseball team of China is. They literally lose to everyone by 20+ runs.
matthieuriolo Please tell me you don't genuinely believe that socialist governments kill their own athletes' families or actually punished them in any way as harsh as that for not winning sports competitions.
Xiclotrode Stalin killed anyone that didn't cough at his direction.
Kaotikrakkerz 22 he cant. he is just brainwashed sheepie
Kaotikrakkerz 22 I'm not sure if he did, but I was just messing around given the fact that Stalin had quite the ego (cult of personality).
The way Marx goes "aw shit" after losing was a masterstroke
I was a kid at school when Monty Python started, and used to stay up to watch the show which was on about 11pm. It made every other comedy programme look tired and dull, and opened up wonderful new areas. It was so exciting, and the only drawback is that nothing I can think of since has lived up to the promise it made. Now the world is still a mess, and maybe I’m wrong but I think we have nothing like this now. Oh well....
Foil Arm's and Hog come close to a modern day MP.
Comedy relies on contrast, the more extreme the better, but political correctness slaps criticism of divergence down. At root, conformity and political extremism are at odds, so there is still plenty of scope.
@@JelMain political correctness slaps down divergence, not criticism of divergence. I don’t think MP was actually political on the whole, they laughed at everything in a completely anarchic way. People will politicize their comedy because they are like that. There’s trouble now because the pc left can’t tolerate dissent. I don’t remember much complaining about Python in the 60s.
@@stevef9530 Any more than Boris' bunch can.
I was probably around 10 years old when I was introduced to Monty Python. My uncle, who is about 5 years older than me introduced me to it. One of the first skits I saw was the Oscar Wilde “your majesty is like.” Although a lot of the more complex humor in that flew over my head it was still hilarious.
Can't believe Trotsky wasn't invited he was a staunch Evertonian
Trotsky was invited, but so was Stalin.
so Stalin and Trotsky were fighting each other in the parking lot with baseball bats when they saw each other, and since neither showed up into the studio on time, the producers had to go on without Stalin and Trotsky
Why didn't they invite Tito? He would have been the smartest one.
@@StrongCoreSociety Ice axes*
trotsky had an unfortunate accident with an ice-pick when it accidentally fell on his skull
AllSeeingEye ofGod
Get out of here with your stupid ass theories people are coming here to watch Monty python not to see your dumb propaganda
"The hammers is the name of which english football team"
Karl Marx: *has a full existensial crisis*
They were never a football team. It's a trick question ! 🇨🇦 71+ yr old hunter expat
@@dereklonewolf9011 Every 25 years they are..
@@siypic lol ⚽️
Perhaps learn to spell.
Precious
The facial expression adopted to portray Mao is just priceless.
An uncanny likeness!😂
The best part of the sketch is the subtext in it. It doesn’t matter if you want to help the working class, because football is much more important to the media and in short term also to the masses than their own well-being.
Bread and circuses
I can see that interpretation but I think now we have the opposite problem and everything is political. I just want to watch a basketball game but I have to hear a sermon about equity or whatever.
In 1984 all the proles seemed to care about was the lottery!
I think its more, you want to help them, yet 1. jobs come from the people you dont like as you just admitted. and 2. you have no idea what the proles enjoy - eg the football and so therefore have nothing in common with them.
The reason this sketch makes me laugh is not so much the politics, but because it reminds me of being in a similar position, in the old pub quizzes. The pub quiz was always a popular form of entertainment in the UK ... now there are not so many of them around. But I would sit with my team (at a table with pint of lager) waiting hopefully for a question I could answer (history, geography, zoology etc) which seldom came ! ... it was always football, cricket, tv soaps, or formula one racing ( ... which I know nothing about)! So ... Karl, Vladimir, Che, Mao ... join the club!
Karl lived in London for a significant portion of his life, he probably had the best shot at winning
A century before this sketch tho
Lenin lived in London for a couple years
And Che was a known sports enthusiast, although he played rugby he also followed a local football team
And he's buried in England... it's a real Communist plot.
@@JeffDeWitt And you have to pay to get in hahahaha
"Ah, shit..." - Karl Marx
What a poet that man was.
The most famous of the Marx Brothers, at least in Europe!
GathGealaich he just wasn't as funny as Groucho.
Simo nah mate, chico was the funniest
Nietzsche claims the ball did not exist, Marx claims its offside.
Nietzsche believed that a type of ball was only a means to get a few great balls, and then to achieve even greater balls, until you had the greatest balls of all. (but, for some reason, you then had to repeat the process over and over.)
no one ever gives Friedrich Engels the notoriety he deserves.
This is hilarious! Che was Argentinian, though. The CIA was absolutely positive that he was Bolivian. It is said that when they finally got him, very near to his death, after they read everything they had on him and claimed him to be Bolivian, he laughed.
You can only kill a man, an idea lives on! Murderous CIA invaders will be remembered in 100 years as just that. Che will still be a legend, loved by the people!
@@bourbonbrigade1968 che is already remembered as a serial killer pretending to be a socialist lmao
He put gay people in camps and tortured everyone he could get his hands on to death. Personally. He was a serial killer who could only get his rocks off to torturing someone to death.
@@bourbonbrigade1968 Che got what he deserved
Well, the people that he didn't personally dispatch with his handgun, anyway.
I interpreted that as "leader of the bolivian guerrilla", which to me would make it incredibly funny since that's not what he's known for and also that's when he kicked the bucket
Marx eyeing Lenin suspiciously at the start... glorious bit of acting/writing.
Marx would have liked Lenin tho
@Oliver Formby Marx was all about the means justifying the ends. As we all are comrade.
@Oliver Formby Lenin was power hungry commie piece of shit , he was never good for Russia , after Lenin and his Bolshevik party did the coup , all hell broke out in Russia , a resistence against the Bolsheviks ( white army ) was assembled , the civil war between the Bolsheviks and White army caused the death of 9.5 million Russians , it would be best for Russia if Lenin's Bolshevik party never did their coup , so that the awful civil war could be avoided , people who support Lenin are not right in the head , he was an awful power hungry communist , he didn't care how many people his soldiers killed , he only cared about setting up his autoritharian communist state with himself as the dictator
@@dragoncrown2029 Just one correction. Civil War was inevitable after the Provisional Government's multiple failings in 1917. The reason Bolsheviks came to power in the first place is because there was a complete power vacuum in Petrograd. The leader at the time Kerensky had no legitimate authority beyond the walls of the Winter Palace, as the historian Orlando Figes liked to say. Some one was going to try and take the charge. It wasn't a matter of if, but when the civil war would occur. Lenin obviously had no reservations about all the horrors Russia would endure, viewing the civil war as the realisation of class struggle.
@@dragoncrown2029 The October Revolution was inevitable, Kerensky's government was unable to deliver to any of the promises they had made, they didn't retreat from ww1, they didn't improve the peasantry's conditions and if that wasn't enough they where about to allow the restoration of the tsar. The bolsheviks had much more popular support than the white guards and you can't deny by no means the huge improvement in life conditions after the civil war, huge increase in literacy rate, massive increase in life expectancy and incredibly quick industrilization. The fact that you think that some guy that was in exile can just snap his fingers and have himself an army capable of defeating the pro-tsarist counter-revolutionaries and make himself the dictator of the USSR is just not right. You should really research what you're talking about, or at the very least have the common sence to know that things don't work like that
Absolutely brilliant sketch.
*_“This non-materialistic lounge suite.”_*
but the joke here is that the game show host doesn't know what he is talking about. saying the louge suite is non-materalistic is just using the term incorrectly in the context. I see this sketch as just a means to simplify the discourse and muddy the water on what any of the policy or philosophy of these people were. even more telling that its framed in an popular tv quiz game show where they talk about sports statistics...
I'd laugh if more people understood what this skit was really about and what the joke is other then the stuff i'm seeing in the comments of "haha look at these leaders, wasn't socialism bad? haha"
but what about Marxist materialist world view?
I actually thought the “This non-materialistic lounge suite'' line was the weakest part of the sketch -it was just being too obvious and lighting up a neon sign and pointing excitedly at the joke for those too thick to get it. Still, I suppose part of being a good performer is knowing your audience...
I feel people that find that funny conflate communism with post modern theories of consumer criticism. Communists don't think that people buy too many things, and communists don't think people ought to share more and be less selfish. Communism is a critique of the mode of production that leads to amassment of wealth in the hands of few while excluding those wo toil to produce that wealth on the other. It is not a critique of consumption of goods.
@@4nc3st0r ^^^^
"Solid Gold Biggie" was my nickname in college. 🤘
The soldiers of the United States will have their way with you one day
@@charliek115
Why, are "The soldiers of the United States" all Gay?
It is so poignantly apt that all the questions (apart from Karl's speciality Q & A's) were literally regarding topics of 'Opiates of the Masses'.
This is how I feel every time I play Trivial Pursuit and I get the friggin' Sports category.
SAME
Right? Why is sports in there. It doesn't matter. It isn't relevant to anything in the real world. And they treat it like its equal to the other subjects. WTF is that even?
The importance of sports entertainment (and entertainment generally) must be continually impressed upon the masses.
Even grown men are thrilled to wear clothing emblazoned with the name of their Sports Hero.
They have been psychologically infantilized.
Important to keep everyone distracted, amused, and most importantly, convinced that they ARE aware of current important events.
Concentrate on the trivial, ignore reality.
As the Western World is culturally and demographically decimated,
the unwitting masses are well fed and immersed in frivolity.
Reasonable Speculation That totally sounds like an English translation of a letter written by Marx!!
You uncoordinated snobs have no fucking idea about the importance of sport to humanity...and the Python sketch was yet another of their BIG misses.
Funny how Marx looks more like Engels, and Che looks more like Castro.
I thought this Marx looked like Rasputin!
@@Kelveron Rasputin wasn't even communist
Also kinda funny how Marx’s accent sounds more Russian than German
ThereIs ASnakeInMy that wasn’t what they were saying
and Lenin looks more like Dzerzhinsky
You know monty python are the best of all time when across generations they are still funny and the jokes are still relevant for different people to get, truly genius and pioneers of the comedy genre Especially in movies, everything they made has aged remarkably
True, I'm 25 and I absolutely love the life of Brian
Which one was Monty?
Well, the comedy certainly aged well. Not so sure about having Terry Gilliam play a Chinese man and the occasional black face routine in Flying Circus.
This is unrealistic, no four leftists could sit in a room for this long without infighting
Truth
Bruh
@@Caboose4091 Is he wrong
Ye Olde Circular Firing Squad, that's the straight dope!
Marxist Leninists, not "leftists"
The fact that they don't even attempt to speak a word makes it even better.
Agreed 😆 but Mao knew Great Balls of Fire 😆
Funny but not realistic at all. In real life none of those idiots ever shut up. That's what makes it funny to me.
Marx looks more like rasputin
SuperCool 69 Rah rah Rasputin lover of the Russian queen..
+Delta3 Actual I heard there's no hell
+Delta3 Actual by the way, I think Marx would go to the Christian hell, still don't think he would deserve that
+Delta3 Actual I don't think there can be a worse thing than infinite pain forever
That’s what I was thinking
When Monty Python started in the 60s my older brothers watched it and the show always had them laughing so hard . They loved it. Then us younger one's got to watch it with them it was hilarious we always looked forward to it when it came on. It still just as funny as it was back then. 🤣😂😅
Karl Marx lived in England. Unfortunately he died about 12 years before West Ham United was founded in 1895. Bad luck Karl!
RIP to Terry Jones who passed away today.
Should show this at universities that might understand soccer history better!
So sad news, thanks for the info though, bro !
how can he rest when we have people fishing for likes on his death
FUCK! I came here to laugh now I'm crying
@PAT Warner Sadly ..
SNL could take a note or two thousand from these guys.
PaNDaSNiP3R I’m fairly sure they did. Especially the greats from the first few years.
Snl is cringe nowadays anyway, used to be great,then was ok, then meh..now it's just sad
it's complete crap now. SNL just hired someone, then fired him before his first appearance because the sjw outrage community went digging and found something insensitive he said years ago.
heatshield Wth? That used to be prerequisite for getting on the show! Did Lorne Michaels sell the show or is he turning neo con?
Eisenwulf666 I stopped watching by the time Ackroid, Newmann, Morris had left (of course Belushi and Radner has upped and died and Chase was gone). Started out on a high.
this is good stuff, needs to be on TV again
Gorgeous sound at presenting the Lounge Suite. 😁
The resemblance to Mao is stunning...
LOL, and thumbs up.... but only because I'm a bit drunk...
Remarkable isn’t it 😂
Mao Zedunning
Looks like herman goering
Except that he wasn't fat enough .... great comment anyway by you.
"We're gonna cut off his hands" I'm starting to see the violence inherent in the system.
Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help! He's being repressed!
@@namemcpersonsname6772 Bloody peasant!
Oh, quit bitching and let's have tea.
Ok, first we'll cut off his hands, and then have tea.
Right.
Strange woman laying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for government!
@@cowboypilot7059 Supreme executive power is derived from a mandate of the masses, not from some watery bint, who threw a sword at you!
I used to date a Communist. It didn't work out. I was Russian and she was Stalin.
Good joke but I'll add that most Russians see Stalin in a positive light
what positive light bro? lol. Stalin sent millions of people to the gulag for basically nothing. Russians hated him in his time and definitely still despise him decades after his death.
@@wabc2336 aye because they'd get killed if they thought any different
@@theearthguy1814 Today? No. Since 1991? Also no. Since 1956, when Khruschev denounced Stalin? Also no. Under Stalin? Maybe, but they’d have to do more than just speak ill of him, and a very small percent of people went to prison (or labor camp) for political opposition. (Even 70% of the gulags were non-political inmates)
This is exactly what happens to the smart kid whenever the class has to do a Super Bowl kahoot quiz
We need Monty Python’s humor now more than ever.
Russia want to create USSR 2.0
Tomorrow Georgia was their prey. Today - Ukraine. Tomorrow - you will be.
yeah, communism is a total failure. only North Korea very stubbornly persists with the dudd system. 😐🤪
the world has lost the ability to laugh at itself. everything is offesnsive now. and its depressing.
@@frenchfrysz6695 not true yet, we can still laugh don’t think like that. There’s so much pain and evil in this world and yet the progressive powers of the west wanna remove any slight chance to laugh
@@user-cs5ld9if2y no. Russia is nothing like the ussr. NATO has expanded into Ukraine and on Russias border. Russia is defending themselves from antagonizers.
The fact that MT TUNG just comes in and answers a question is comedy at it's finest. You were under the illusion the entire thing was gonna be a staring match. Then BAM - GRAATE BALLS OF FIRE!
Yes.. a bit too early if you ask me.
Him buzzing in for some reason just got me.
I mean funny yes but also very predictable.
It's pretty funny that his surname is actually Mao, and it gets listed as Tung, half his given name.
Isn't there another version of this sketch in which the question is about another song and Mao answers, correctly, "Sing Little Birdie"?
This amount of class and wittiness is restoring the brain cells I've lost today.
Apparently, Coventry City has since won the English Football Cup once, in the 1986-1987 season. They beat Tottenham Hotspur 3-2 in the final, with striker Keith Houchen scoring a memorable diving header to level the score at 2-2. This was Coventry City's first major trophy in their history. (ChatGPT!)
This sketch is from the 70s, ChatGpenis
Coventry was absolutely robbed in this year’s FA Cup semifinal against Man Utd by a stupid VAR reversal of their game winning goal. Will not be watching the final in protest.
Monty Python humour is absolutely timeless. Who would have thought their skits would be relevant and still funnier after so many decades.
Their themes are rooted in truth. Truth is eternal. And funny AF
Any of the Democratic candidates.
@@timjohnson1199 True, as John Cleese has noted, Drumpf has no sense of humor whatsoever.
Because things rarely ever change.
Gotta wait for the complete downfall of Western-capitalist imperialism when there are 49 new countries in America and then check back for how humor has evolved. 😉
@@Dowlphin Nahh..... Then we would be like Afghanistan and the Chinese would come and take over. How would you like to be ruled by the Chinese?
Can’t believe Marx didn’t get the West Ham question correct!
Absolutely, given that he lived in London for nearly 35 years!
@@jediroya6810 Wasn't he a QPR fan?
Perhaps because he died before the club was founded?
@@portcullis5622 Nay! Everybody knows that Marx rooted for Chelsea 😂
@@oni741 I hear that he also made sneaky visits to Loftus Road.
00:18 Omg I spotted a mistake! Che Guevara was not Bolivian, he was killed there while leading a guerrilla, but he was Argentinian, and a Cuban citizen as well since he participated in the Cuban revolution! ^_^
Here's the real joke: "What English Premier League team is not owned by Russian oligarch after stealing the means of production from the Russian people?
Che looks like Fidel
That sounds like Cold War code.
Most four word sentences do
I find Marx looks more like Engels and only Lenin really looks like Lenin, only I think they gave him and Mao hats so they wouldn't have to use bald caps etc. The odd thing is that Mao would have been salvageable if they had given him Lenins costume , since the military uniform in Mao china was basically a blue-er version of the workers uniform. What ever they put him in here makes no sense.
Makes you wonder if they changed the sketch last minute.
Che was also an Argentine, not Bolivian.
Andrew
You can also describe him as having been a Cuban guerrilla commander. It's not wrong but it's not the most understandable use of the English language either. The nationality describes the organisation he had a role of leadership in ( Bolivian guerrilla), not Ché himself.
Look at it this way , a US postal service worker with the Canadian nationality is both a 'US postal' worker ánd a Canadian postal worker employed by the US postal service.
Historical stages of development:
Tribalism
Feudalism
Capitalism
Socialism
Communism
Lounge Suite
Brian Arbenz you forgot to add: “Running a massive genocide against your own population.”
He wrote communism already
BennettParsons1 yeah he did it was called capitalism
@@Neuroticmancer you're pretty stupid arent you?
@@sdivine13 Y'all forgot feudalism and tribalism, ya gormless tossers!
"great balls of fire"
When I was a kid I’d go visit my great grandparents and my great grandfather would always be watching Monty Python. I still watch this stuff because of those days. Good memories.
That's nice! Thank you for sharing your childhood memories with us!
Rest in Peace, Terry Jones. Your laughter will ring until the last smile fades.
Would be interesting to know how Terry ranked himself, he was a keen Medieval historian, whether that was more important to him or monty python. One of Wale's finest.
He said he's not dead
5 years after this sketch, Coventry City caused a shock winning their first English cup :) 0:52
Never gets old because it's still relevant.
Monty Python were the masters of the ridiculous sketch and this is no exception. But that throwaway line at the end made me laugh rather more loudly than I was expecting.
well im sure there was tons of similar comedian groups such as finnish Kummeli. Monty Python is lucky to be english so they're known worldwide
@@VacantSpirit That's the funniest thing I've seen for a long while!
All I can think of is the sketch from FC where contestants had to summarize the works of Proust in 10 seconds or less... Something to the effect of "since we don't have a winner, first prize goes to the girl with the biggest tits!"
@@VacantSpiritNords aren't funny.🥱😴
"No one leave this show empty handed, so we just gonna cut off his hands"
Sounds spot on
@Focux no it doesn't. Can you even define communism?
Everyone sinks to the lowest common denominator.
Except for the people who are more equal than the rest.
@John LaFever . Like most people that never read the communist manifesto and then just repeat what other uninformed people said about it, your idea of communism is way off. There is nothing connecting communism to the atrocities committed by 'communist' dictators. I can come up with examples of capitalist countries ruled by dictators that are just as bad. Inform yourself please.
@John LaFever yeah sure, get mad, why not? Why exactly do you accuse me of having a ' reading comprehension problem'? So you have read the communist manifesto, or did you read about it? And btw, as far as my memory about the book goes, Marx never promised a 'sweet smelling paradise', instead he warned about economical issues, which for a large part came true. And suggested an alternative for capitalism ( which ,as im sure you know ,is just the next step after feudalism, introduced mostly after the french revolution, together with enlightenment). Instead, it's the capitalist creed that says ' you can become whatever you want as long as you work for it', which is not true for most people. Unless you're rich, you're just a puppet, working to make someone else rich. Or read about it here:en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surplus_value
That’s how some countries eliminate poverty: just eliminate the poor people.
Guys, the joke is that these are four of the most important men in political and economic history, and Eric Idle is asking them about soccer. Not that they don't know about it.
Man Love all these guys and Idle rocks!!
Karl Marx spent most of his life in london of course he'd know who the hammers were!
Was thinking that if anybody would get it, it'd be Marx.
paul metzler Judging a communist by the contents of his bank account is pointless.
I think you're confusing Marx and Trotsky. Marx died in London he's buried there. Trotsky was assassinated in Mexico city with an Ice pick by agents of Stalin.
Wow, it's been quite a while since I've read anything that discoherently angry. Impressive!
Adolf Hitler never went by the name 'Shickelgruber'.
www.nytimes.com/1990/05/06/opinion/l-hitler-never-really-was-schicklgruber-016390.html
That Mao face
it's borderline lol
Looks like Elizabeth the 2nd
*correction: it's borderline lmao
I am fucking beautiful
it's Terry Gilliam. That's all that matters.
This is bloody brilliant 🤣
I love M.P. and I never seen this skit! Ty for posting! Lnao
Karl Marx look like Rasputin and Che Guevara look like Fidel Castro 😂
Marx looks a little like Keanu Reeves
@@Cjnw Wha-
How dare you.
@space cowboy#2 Vlad Putin is Rasputin but Karl Marx is but another foreigner in London.
He looks like Friedrich Engels, one of the famous Communists. Marks, Engels and Lenin
And Lenin looks like Trotsky
Why did Marx end up in the final round, Mao was the only one who answered a question. Just plain silly.
mcaddicts "Just plain silly" is the entire point of Monty Python.
Yeah I realize that and was making reference to the running joke of the silliness.
mcaddicts
Oh. Well, stop that. It's silly.
All right I'll get on with it.
+mcaddicts YES! Get on with it!
17 Years later Coventry City won the FA cup. They beat Tottenham Hotspur 3:2 (a.e.t).
Damn, I was hoping Marx would win the lounge suite.
He had enough free shit given to him in real life.
@@feartheghus Like his 7 dead kids ? That was a free gift from society right ?
Le PlAn CoOp no but all the draining he did from family member’s funds and all the mooching he did while producing nothing was.
@@feartheghus I wouldn't call writing over 20 books nothing... but sure...
Cameface H he was a teacher numnuts
"...that wonderful non-materialistic lounge suite"
I read this just when Idle said it kkkkkkkk
@Dmitry TKR it's hahahaha in Portuguese, I'm mexican anyway
The works of the worker. Marx logic would have the couch maker own all his couches and no bread.
@Jim Goose Why are you booing him? He’s right!
@@spiicypotato lmao. He dipped out. His phone maker wanted his work back.
"Grate-uh Bowls of Fye-yah?" Comedy gold! lol
Agreed, we need all the comedians and laughter we can get ! We need Benny, Dave, Rodney, and George so badly right now ! Sadly they have all passed away !:(
Strangely Coventry City won the English FA Cup for the only time only five years after this was made
Shaun House wow!
Shaun House
only 5 years, that's long enough for that to not be relevant
Shaun House Nothingham Forest has won the Champions League. Anything is possible!
ObviousBaitYetYouStillFellForIt 0
This is the sort of thing I trawl the comments for!
At least Marx knows offsides when he sees it.
I still think the German's made a huge mistake by subbing him in for Wittgenstein.
I liked the days of Socrates.
Seeing this 14 years later with 14 million views is quite something
That lounge suite is sweet.
1:15 Covetry city won in 1987. Seven years after this sketch.
Terry Gilliam pulling that face. Wouldn't get away with that these days.
SJW's would sh-t
@@DL-cd7ew i mean probably cause its racist?
@@dom2752 - You mean comedy 😇
@@DL-cd7ew can comedy not be racist?
@@dom2752 - Do you go after black people who impersonate a white person, and call them racist too?
Python would be crucified today for Gilliam's portrayal of Mao.
I mean... Are they? This isnt a "would" scenario.
@@superbrain7852 yes, we both know that would happen...
@@ReasonAboveEverything What do you mean "would", is this not a sketch today? Look into the comments, do you see anyone, a single person saying "uh thats yellow facing"? Youll probably find one eventually, but for very person who says that, there are thousands of people like you guys. Chill out, why be so speculative, they arent getting crucified, thats a fact, nothing to discuss here.
Honestly this perfectly encapsulates why I don't like games like trivial pursuit.
The attention to detail is the best part of this skit, Great Balls of Fire came out in 1957, when Mao was still alive, so it is entirely possible he actually knew the answer.
Since this was filmed in 1982 it wasn't exactly ancient history back then (25 years earlier). Today's question might include a question about Michael Jackson's "Bad" which came out in 1987 or 35 years ago (ok now I feel old).
Of course he knew the answer!!! he answered the question.
2:53
Reminds me of when an old man stood next to a bridge with a knight and asked him what's Assyria's capital
It’s definitely not a casual and easy-going capital
I don't know that! (I bet Arthur knew it was Ashur because of some silly debate before the opening credits...)
Ninevah. where's my sofa?
How did they manage to get all those famous people in the same room?
I was really hoping that when Mao won $10, it'd be redistributed to the other contestants and everyone would have $2.50.
Naaa... that's not how Communism is implemented in reality... More like: $9.95 to the "Party", and 5c for the masses...
And then everyone starves.
Only the masses have to share, and they made share what little they are given.
All the money stays at the top with the party leaders.
Absolute power as they say....
@@dragons_red That absolute power stuff is a load of nonsense. Doesn't explain anything. There have been plenty of examples where absolute power has not corrupted and current examples today how partial (democratic) power has corrupted and the problem with partial power is it leaves anyone in it paralyzed to kick out any one who is corrupt. At least absolute power depends on the nature of the person themselves. I would take Marcus Aurelius over any of these Orwellian U.N bureaucrats anyday. Who voted them in anyway? Democracy sucks, but so does socialism and communism. Also fuck Hitler.
@Jake Williams For sure. But the state's will swing blue soon, then the only option will be for republicans to move futher left and shift the Overton window further and further left. You can already see it with gay and trans advocacy as well other policies that would of never been adopted 50 years ago
About everything I know about English Football I've learned from this Monty Python sketch.
The irony is that most of them would know these at a drop of a hat... except Mao. I think Mao liked baseball more
I’m not a proletariat, I’m temporally embarrassed bourgeoise
I like that one of the jokes is now out-of-date as Coventry won the cup in 1987.
"Che" looks a lot like Fidel Castro.
And Marx looks like Engels. Don't think it's a coincidence.
Everyone had beards
Che looked like a pussy in real life.
chaostrich, he looks nothing like the real Che (other ban the beard)
chaostrich strangely, so does Justin Trudeaux...
i like how everyone in the audience got excited when they announced karl marx
One of my favorites
This skit must have sailed right over my head when watching Monty Python as a child.
@blue heeler
*makes fun of people's intelligence based on their hair colour
*uses the preposition 'of' instead of the auxiliary verb 'have' because it sounds more or less the same
classic
@blue heeler
My prrrrrecious!
or did you mean ''you're'?
@blue heeler 😘
@blue heeler I was born brunette, like Stalin.
To me it was just the British accents and the British sense of morality that made them funny,they took being British and all its inane customs to task by a high level of hyperble which when done by real Brits was hilarious
"Beautiful, non-materialistic lounge suite"
The Monty team are still the best in the west ...50 years later.. priceless gems
Marx lived in London a number of years, but sadly he passed away in 1883, 12 years before the founding of West Ham United FC :(
50 years later, and one of their clips gets 13 million views and 10K comments.
Pure.
Genius.
"Great balls of fire?" I'm so glad I found this video again lmao
😃😃😃
the guy playing Tung is squinting so goddamned hard
1:13 they all kind of half-nod like that's the reason they didn't answer LMAO
"Great buarrs of a-fiyah?"
Yes it was indeed! Very well challenged!
lmao
LordOfTheHunt In the original British version, it was a Eurovision Song Contest winner called ‘Sing Rittle Birdy’
@@jeffblack5024 Ha ha has
"No one leaves this show empty-handed...so we're gonna cut of his hands"
lol, so that's where Izzard got the joke he used in his quiz show act in Definite Article. Then again Izzard does make a ton of Python references in his comedy.
Socialist stealing form someone? Shocking! hehe
Well izzard is a jew.... just like marx
You they ever did any work of their own?
John Cleese & Eric Idle… they’re all fantastic but those two- heavy hitters