Since Season 3 each season gets worse and worse, inflation gets worse and worse. Riot needs to do something. Imagine we are at the point where 12% of the playerbase is within Master, when its used to be less than 1% in old seasons. Its honestly depressing, great video to raise awareness about this issue xd
Hey man I watch your videos and love your content. Ive been experimenting with being overly nice and supportive to the team regardless of how toxic they are. Trust it works wonders on stoping people from griefing if you say "Gj good kill'' ''Sorry that was my bad'' all the time
I will ask you dark breaker. Weren't these changes for addressing que times? So they literally succeeded in that and now people complain that there are too many people in higher ranks?
Hey man I watch your videos and love your content. Ive been experimenting with being overly nice and supportive to the team regardless of how toxic they are. Trust it works wonders on stoping people from griefing if you say "Gj good kill'' ''Sorry that was my bad'' all the time
Hey I’m from NA and I feel we have the problem too now if you are telling me in top 1.25 percent and I get some of the teammates I get I can only imagine what you guys are going through
on the dot. i told my friend all this. at the end of the day they dont give a shit lol as long as these kids keep spending they wont ban em even if they are bad. im convinced they will ignore any reports as long as they are spending. The better you are the bigger the trash bag you are handed to carry to keep these kids having fun.
As a support main,I find it very frustrating at times,the matchmaking makes it almost impossible in certain games to make any difference. When 2 out of 5 players are basically going 0-10 with champs they barely ever tried in a ranked,you can just try and win by luck (cause in solo or duo you cannot coordinate much).
i can agree these days i only play casual matches cuz its more fun and cuz players there actually know the basics and when im talking about the basics im talking about looking at the map and surviving the first 5 minutes of line
Tell me about it. Back in my days as Iron - Silver, i just spammed Braum and we did fantastic. But when it reaches gold 1 to plat that's when the shit hit the fan. They dont know about low defense line and minion management, they dont ward so they kept geting early ganks, big egos at draft pick, and they blamed ME, the support who roams around babysitting their asses.
Happened in a game of Vanquisher elo. I asked a guy who was inting after losing first drake "is one drake = lose?" He deadass said "yes and f*ck your dead mom". Then he proceeded to clear my camps and went afk. Of course he didn't get punished at all.
@@muzakkirmohd4060 not really, 4 platings is more worth it than one dragon. Better off getting herald and use it instantly to get gold when enemy going for drake.
Spread the Word! Finally someone adressing the REAL problem WR is having for a few seasons. Please share this video on as many platforms as you can so that someone at Riot can finally see what the playerbase wants
They have to do this because not all people want to play harder games..that's the point of mobile league its easier and shorter.. Just uninstall this game and play league PC more fun because its harder right 😏
@@dear_myself people play wild rift because they don't have PC or they don't like League Of Legends there are many changes in those two games like rune system etc also League Of Legends is not harder it's just more complicated than wild rift
@@dear_myself Yeah ditch and completely ignore the competetive scene in a game with a COMPETETIVE ENVIRONMENT amirite? Yeah continue being Rito's cash cow slave they sure love those.
I've been playing more normal pvp last season, and I find the quality of games better there. I noticed it's less trolls/afks/toxicity. In ranked it's a clown fiesta (big egos, trash talking in preselect, alot of pointless chasing, low health but throw themselves to enemy, neglecting the crashing minion waves at the turrets). Oh and for some reason in ranked the duo lane, they keep dying every 30 seconds.
lmao it's the opposite for me XD. in my experience, pvp is unbalanced af. i got matched with iron in my team & 3 master on the enemy side. and when it's balanced, some players likes to troll/afk because it's 'pvp'.
Playing ADC in low elo was always a pain because your support either tries to farm or just doesnt know how to engage. Now i climbed to masters thinking the quality would enhance but it didnt. I get so many people that dont buy the support of item, they dont know when to push wave or to recall. And when you as adc dont follow up on a kamikaze mission they say "ADC trash" or smth like that...
Hard reset EVERYONE!! Let them cry. DO IT!! Then bring back LP that isn’t some kind of baby’s first moba version and bring back placements. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! If you were stuck in Diamond until last year when they babified rank, that IS WHERE YOU BELONG!! Deal with it.
They killed the game basically, first they removed promos and now this shit points system everyone can reach master now by just playing so many games, for the game to come back we need both promos and LP system back with hard rest everyone to platinum.
Im with it. I am by no means a pro. And my understanding of the fundamental elements in the game is solid. Get to your rank by your skills. Because I don't like getting matched with people that aren't my skill level, be them higher or lower. Im guilty of ditching games, only because I refuse to break my phone or my toe, AGAIN. LOL
Would be very nice if riot would hear it. I think there will be the same amount of people spending money for a game, that is worth getting better and being rewarded after a long journey.
They know people doesn't like harder game especially in mobile that's why they make it easier to climb...this game also doesn't have too much player..so matchmaking could be so bad if there are too less player in high elo..
I was a diamond-ranked player by season 2 and now currently in master, but damn i still feel like my game sense in the past is so much better than my game sense now
On one hand, i like fortitude, because it saves me from losing a game when im getting griefed by some dude whose ego was hurt or smth. On the other hand i understand its just a crutch and it doesnt address the fundamental problem. Tho, knowing how this exact problem exists in the PC game, i dont think we are anywhere close to seeing it getting resolved.
I remember how hard it was get out of diamond it took me like 200 games reach master in s2 but in the last 3 seasons i was able to reach gm in like 50 to 70 games. XD Imagine you must very often tell your support that there is a freaking support item in the game in grandmaster or to explain to the stupid adc that his tank can last hit minions with the sup item ...
Sometimes, just sometimes support items sucks hard. I know you are grieving about Nami, Karma and Lux not taking support items and they play like mid lane. The damage that everyone of you team really matter, I only play support items in some sense if my adc can have healthy CS, then I know he is good to play around. But most of the times support items sucks hard against mage items unfortunately expect for sicke and relic shield and mandate.
@@karimgoudy Im talking about the the new sup item idk what its called idc about my supp if he goes mage or supp items. Its just the huge gold disadvantage you get as supp without the item
@@zawarudo384 back when I was playing PC lol it took me 2 months to get to emerald and a total of 1 year to diamond. In pc the opponents are just too hard to deal with because keyboard isn't as seamless as sliding your fingers in mobile moba games.
In s2 i played 600 hundred games to be in Diamond 4 whn i climb dia 4 almost screamed and so proud of myself for like 1 week but now when i get gm in 130 match i dont feel a single thing its Just sad now
As a League player I think it is kind of suprising that the communities are distinct enough that the solution you suggest is so far removed from simply implementing League's ranked system.
rank means zero in WR. all masters and grandmasters have 47-48% win rates. the matchmaking system is a meme. until they fix the algorithm so it isn’t literal garbage, the game is going to flounder
Losing so many games at Diamond previous season because of players who don't know what they were doing was frustrating, let alone losing because of trolls, this current system needs purification.
A hard reset to everyones mmr would bring me back to the game! So sad that people in challanger with sub 50% winrate can outrank me due to playing more games than me even though I have a 60% wr. Hopefully they can fix elo inflation to the rank system like season 2 and before.
No no not only hard reset add promos back remove this stupid rank protection system ( which allows player to get higher rank with 48% win rate)and players needs to match with same rank ( in current match making emerald 4 get matched with diamond 1 which doesn't make any sense same in LQ commander 4 get matched with guardian 1)
@@buncotton9669 that's the system since PC league. They try to make It so that you lose and have a 50% WR. They also try to make you be promoted after a number of matches so it would be difficult for Smurfs to easily get rank 1, 2, 3 cause they would have to spend so much time in each account. To prevent smurfing they hurt everyone and make It terrible to play.
It's interesting finding this video, been playing WR for about 5 months and got as high as plat and it felt weirdly easily but though it was just me. Then I go back to play league and find out you get up to two free wins for promos, it seems like the "appeal to masses" for competitive games is spreading like wild fire and its a symptom of competitive games going hard main stream. Almost every competitive scene that I've been in or participated in has done the same thing (pokemon, fighting games, shooting games), sadly the days of sweaty competitive scenes are a relic of the past and slowly going away.
You're gonna have to pick your poison on this one Quality over quantity = Higher queue times Quantity over quality = elo inflation there will be no in-between, regardless of what riot does on the matchmaking. the next update might be landing on the center of the two, but as time go on, it's gonna lean on either of them. Take also to account that the players are the ones that caused this
Remember the fear of being matched with masters/grandmasters from the MMR based matchmaking. Was a completely different game. 7 months later, we’re in season 9 and i’m in master…. I wasn’t even diamond in S3, I was low plat. Happy I got there but sad that I’ll have to get to challenger for it to mean half as much. Gotta love the top 11%
riot lowered the competitiveness of normal ranked because they wanted to create legendary ranked which is something original to LoL mobile in the last season players kept complaining about how some players kept abusing 5 q and trio q to rank up and players felt that they have to play in party to rank up in legendary ranked you have to play solo q and you have to play the role that you master
Season 1 and 2 was the most sweaty season. I remember being hopeless in Emerald, but I still managed to get to Masters since Diamond was a breeze. I stopped playing the game til I decayed back to Emerald, and holy shit. The current Emerald players felt like playing with/against Gold players back in beta and the first two seasons. It's not even funny that I'd go 10/0 on 3 consecutive games, and still lose without being queued up in a higher elo.
We need a way larger playerbase for us to have an actual high elo. The thing is, riot gave up this game. Remember, riot is one of the biggest gaming companies in the world (owned by tencent). Tencent don't want this game to overshadow their other titles, so there is no budget for advertising. Ask yourself, when is the last time you saw a WR ad? Probably back in season 3 lol. Edit: and stop deceiving the new playerbase by adding bots into their games.
This game has the most manipulative and unfair matchmaking. Don't try it. It will hook you in with a few wins but will then on, be so against you every match feels like torture. Quit or avoid it while you are still ahead.
Well players on the line like to blame junglers even though they are the ones who play badly. In many cases junglers are not helped to take objectives and in other cases line players are eager to kill.I as a jungler felt it, even if I managed to steal the dragon or the Baron would definitely lose if my team only cared about killing opponents instead of pushing.Crazy start to the season😓
This is my first moba and I'm noob, but I've got into master. I can see the skill gap, I shouldn't be there. On top of that I can see the players who are worse than me and are in master. It's absolutely crazy. It gets even worse because match making puts diamond 4 players in the game. If one team gets a particularly bad D4 player it's a predetermined outcome. Not satisfying to play at all.
NA Wild Rift and PC player here. I'm bronze in PC and Gold/Plat in WR... I can tell you from personal experience that they don't feel too different. I don't mind an ELO reset.
Bro the jungle part is so truee, i play jungle and got blamed for everything like it's really crazy, that's why i quit jungle and play toplane instead, whether i play good or bad, i have never been blamed
I was top 1k players last season playing sion supp 65% win rate. It is just getting worse and worse. I tried to talk about this on WildRift reddit, all my posts were denied. You can't have people with 48/49% win rate get to master grandmaster, just because they've 800 games.
The sad part is My group started Playing WR but Im the only one who stayed. Everyone went back to ML. i still play both though. But most of the time, I play ML because of he quick pacing. Action starts at level 4 for for assassins. And the game is finished within 15 minutes (high rank)
That happened to me so many times. Where you carry your team and still lose. That's when you learn kills don't win games. After adjusting my playstyle. I found myself winning more games
Great video indeed. Very honest evaluation of everything (close to) what is wrong with the game. Skill gap in games and trolling is unbearable and really frustrating.
As a new player that just started playing yesterday and just stumbled upon this video while watching guides and damn hearing this is really discouraging me to grind up if its just going to be like this... I atleast want to be rewarded for getting better at the game
Man i suggest you to drop this sht as soon as possible or else you gonna build up a bad addiction to it and im saying all of this to you as a former PC&Mobile League player. Mobile version so far has been a dead cause Rito now only cares about how to satisfy their brainless cash cows.
2023 now.both normal and rank really sucks...i can tell whos who...Teamates who will do good in middle game so i dont throw that game and keep pushing until getting that Win... play all roles...the biggest downfall is the bot lane and the jungler....if both falls...its alrealy a lossing state....playing mid and going to bot lane helps team alot...if jungler too busy....and that game mentality is mosly missing to wildrift player...they just want to hunt and kill...they just want to be lucky in a clash...no one wants to punish a overpush enemy player...and defend the tower...if i can't sense it to my teammates....definitely im throwing the game...thats the wildrift state right now...to teamwork...and composition in champion picking....Thats worst than mobile legends...i mean mobile legends end game is much good than wildrift.. .in ML you can fight if your feed up just farm the lane...in wildrift youll just have to give up.....
Rank is shit. I was in Masters and I am still playing with people who do not know how to time objectives and rage quits over a support killing a minon to proc the support item.
After reaching GM, I stopped playing ranked. Legendary queue is much better. Last season, I got stuck in vanquisher I, but the experience was still much better than regular ranked.
maybe will help bringing the point system back into diamond and above instead of this win marks,, the old system punished you taking back more points from you if you lose and giving you less if you win , was like win +10, loss -13/15 points forcing you into winning more to achieve a tier , that point system separated the good players in masters and above from the bad in Diamond or lower
+10 -15 was brutal tho. I got 3 games in a row afk and went down 45 points for no reason cuz remake not existed and "protection" for afk not existed either. +11 -13 was okay.
This inflation is so annoying, but it’s also very smart from the devs, because if you get „highrank“ it’s more likely you keep playing, it’s a bait. Everyone can hit challenger with enough time in wild rift.
I agree . Master ELO is full of diamond players who have an ego in the size of a mountain . Literally u cannot convince them that they r not good mechanically
Imagine most of high elo players don't know the basics 💀 I think the only thing that excites me about wild rift is only the champion releases 😢 It also becomes so hard to climb now
I could not tell how many times I've met with dudes bragging Yasuo, Yi, or zed with mastery 7 only to find out they have 44% wr and use that mastery as an excuse for their harmful actions.
As a SEA player, I always said this and I'll keep on saying it. Despite being better in EVERY ASPECT than Mobile Legends, the sheer incompetence of Wild Rift matchmaking somehow still able to make ML a more fun game to play.
I already quit this game. I thas been nearly 2 months now I am so sick of those trollers and toxic players quiting games for not getting first drake and master ranked player not having knowlege and skill of platinum rank Making player inflation in diamond made WR doomed , which was very bad decision of Riot And removing promo matches is also a bad move Matching platinum 4 with Diamond 1 is also a bad match making system Nerfs and buffs are always irrelavent Riot needs to try harder if they really want to maintain WR for the future and needs to stop acting like they are superior than the other Moba games just because LOL PC is the father of MOBAs
Tft has a mechanic where after 2 sets (2 season 6 months) every person's rank resets completely (not mmr) and you play 5 placement matches and highest you can get is gold 4/gold 1, depends on the players previous rank and the matches won in the placements, and after 1 set, second set soft resets and you drop to d4 if you're challenger gm or master.
As long as Masters isn't hard gated (i.e. only fixed numbers of players can be Masters) then it's possible for everyone in the playerbase to get to it. Nothing wrong with that. The problem in this game is not the ranking, I personally think it's the auto fill system. I play as fill 100% of the time, and in 19/20 games I get JG role. What this says is very few people plays JG, which is arguably the most important role in the game. I can also say that when I got better in JG role, my winrate improved a lot, and this is mostly because the enemy JG doesn't know what he's doing.
When a player can’t climb rank without fortitude , they will quit. Every player that quit are going on to be a major issue for riot. They need to balance competitiveness , fairness and also ability to survive or make a profit.
I'm diamond 2 and one time playing duo with my friend that is an Emerald 3 I caught Platinum players. It doesn't make sense at all. If I can't queue with platinum in premade party why does the game let platinum play with diamonds?????? Another thing that frustrates me a lot are lots of diamonds that play like gold: don't ward river, objectives, don't gather (the basic mechanics)... It's awful especially when people are playing full SoloQ. I'd like another elo either between Platinum and Emerald or between Emerald and Diamond to separate better the good players from the awful players. Another thing I'd like to happen more during ranks is the recreation. It doesn't make sense if recreation doesn't happen in all matches when someone is visibly afk. Having it and not having happens to be the same once that doesn't work well. I'd like also that ranked games allowed only solo queue players or make the legendary ranks (like flex in lol pc) starting in emerald due the premade teams that sabotage lots of soloq. I think that the elos are unbalanced due to premade groups. A player can simply carry rhe other noobs, it's like elo job without paying.
After seeing how long it takes for them to bring remake to the game, I don't think they'll bring the honor system anytime soon. I'd love to be proven wrong though.
In my opinion, Riot "Games" doesn't know how to make proper games, and with logical rules for its community. Wild Rift is a very good example for being such a huge disappointment. Not referring to its gameplay, but more to its matchmaking system and also the penalties or notices. Riot doesn't know how to make matchmaking systems. It's very obvious. Either they have bad programmers or they are lazy to do the job right. Many of the matches, no matter what mode you choose to play on, they are incredibly broken, unbalanced, etc. Also, the penalties or notices... man, this is so annoying, irritating and also tiring. Why do I have to get banned because I decided to help the enemies to end the match faster just because my team was full of noobs and wouldn't even surrender? Why noobs should play this game on first place? Yes, the game is free, but just because it's free, doesn't necessarily mean that it's for everyone, and this is where Riot loses the road. And by banning a lot of players that some of them have decided to invest on Riot's skins which are relatively expensive, that's even worse, because this way Riot substantially steals money. Then Riot forces you in its own way that if you want your skins back, you have to pay for them again by creating a new account and start over. Well, this doesn't make any sense at all. Riot is from the worst videogame companies I've ever seen.
things that need to be rework on ranked: 1: fuck duo/trio abusers, soloQ is the only true way of getting better at league/WR and climbing ranks. if u wanna party, make a new 5-man ranked by reworking existing guild system 2: fuck mark-based tally system, as it doesnt rewarding better players for winning the game and implement LP to all tier, also making LP requirement goes higher on higher tier 3: fuck BM players, as they ruining ranked players' experience 4: fuck smurfers, as it ruining new players experience 5: fuck account traders, selling/buying high elo account doesnt make ur skill as same as them 6: fuck boosted players, tier promotion need to be back since boosters having fun making moneys
This. I agree with all of this. I am jungle main, used to be a vi one trick reaching emerald. Upon reaching top 100 with her and diamond I dropped her completely in order to learn new lanes and champs so that I can improve my gameplay as a jungler by understanding other lanes. Then returned to jungle with new champs increasing my champion pool and this year I reached master stomping my way through the ranks.... But I don't feel like I achieved something. I didn't feel like it's a higher rank it feels like I am playing on diamond all over again and in turn it makes me doubt my skills. Did I reach there because I tried and improved or was I just pushed into there because below average players are there too because of the system. In all honestly I don't feel like I am worthy of thus rank at all
Before, it took me so hard just to climb to diamond 4, took a break, then last season, i was surprised i climbed from plat to master 32 in like 1 and a half months? It was crazy quick honestly. I dont think im that good LMAO!🤣 The struggle inside the plat-diamond was lowkey nonexistent. I think getting matched with diamonds in masters is good. Gives a bit of a challenge for both parties. If the diamond player is worthy to play with masters and the master having the patience and skill to help carry the team. Yes it was chaotic but it had lots of challenges. I also agree that lots of people in masters really dont know even the basics, some are not even flexible in their roles, dont know prioritization and have the lowest patience. So easy to give up, troll, or lose their shit. I hope they can fix it soon. NGL, i dont deserve to remain on masters, i feel like i shouldve dropped back to dia on my last grind last season but i just remained in masters all the way. TBH it felt like i was just playing pvp. I sometimes dont even take the game seriously at some point. Its just all over the place. I hope they have a solution to it soon
Thank god someone addressed this issue I once saw my adc tristana jump into a blitz hook in grandmaster rank and a lee sin who doesn't know how to use his ultimate at higher rank and always kicks the target away from the team. at diamond rank people think the normal elemental drake is more important than baron or the towers.
Jungle role isn’t the most appreciated role in the game because of the heavy responsibility of playing this role. Imagine receiving all the hate because of a missed objective, gank, etc. Not many players are keen to learn the role cuz….it receives the most toxicity. The worst part is the matchmaking in solo rank where I had 11 games where people say “I don’t play jungle” and we lose because well he/she can’t play jungle in HIGH ELO
I sent a complaint to riot about their shitty matchmaking and the reply was basically that riot has made sure that each team has a 50% chance of winning each match so I asked if they could elaborate on what he meant by that and what methods they use to ensure that each team on each match has a 50% chance of winning and no reply yet
Skill is (supposedly) measured by MMR, and rank (to enable progression) doesn’t reflect skill-intentionally. And discussion about addressing inflation and skill gaps must deal with MMR. MMR differences in lobbies also explain why it’s possible for a more skilled player to have a bad winrate, and still be more skilled. The video has a lot of good points, but it missed on this issue.
OMG!! That's gooing to hurt! Amazing video! I don'tn think Riot is thinking of doing anything but it's nice to see you guys speaking up!! thanks a lot!!
Normal ranked is dead. I exclusively played legendary queue as soon as I reached diamond last season and climbed to guardian 1. Now I‘ve been reset to platinum 2 due to the weird new reset rules. All I want is play legendary ranked again but platinum is literally bronze and I don‘t see myself getting back to diamond 4 any time soon…
Kinda hard to fix the rank system when the playerbase is very big....inflating ranks was a desperate because everyone was complaining about really long que times
we do the blitzcrank troll game as well, to point out that the reporting system and permaban system is nonexistent nor working. we will not stop trolling (responsibly) until riot implement a better reporting system. our strategy: a 5 man will rank up 5 games, then we will individually queue (seperately) and ruin games 5x for others. so 5 x 5 = 25 games to ruin and then we will group up and rank up 5 games again ( rinse and repeat).
I think i do understand that blitzcrank, i would as well rather wait 5 more mins of que time rather than getting putted as 5th assigned pos. That iam not enjoy playing..
That one problem in ranked is Platinum ranks also called as *Elo Hell* which is so freaking hard to get over. And the games in platinum ranks are too confusing...it's like Having a Smurf enemy And a bad teammate. And the other way around- Having a good teammate (Probably a Smurf) And very BAD enemy Like I said, the games in platinum elo is way too confusing and it's TOO UNFAIR for everyone. I mean u can't enjoy a good game with SMURFS or just good at high ceiling champ that CAN 1v9
Totally agree, wildrift don't have fair matchmaking system they only care about earning money from average players who can buy their skins. Climbing the ladder is easier for those lucky players who are queued against weaker opponents making it a one sided game. These totally need to be resolved before the game goes beyond the worst.
9:33. Agreed. One more step is Ban champs that is being used on the other lane. For example, if a baron laner is going to use an adc on the lane, the game should not make the role adc, support, jungle, and mid available to that baronlaner and riot must be flexible on the champs available for the player to choose on the lane.
One BIG ISSUE THEY NEED TO FIX ASAP! If it ever happens to you, one of your teammate will disconnect and then recon and then disconnect again in the entirety of the game . and you cant even do a thing to remake the game its like a free lose how is it fair. This also happened to tyler1. And they will give you some protection points like 150+-300 players feel like its a way of bargaining of the problem which is not enough, 4v5 in a game in high elo is a sure lose riot should fix this.
Honestly I stopped playing ranked because of having at least 1 inting teammate every game. If I had to put it in percentages I think 10% of my games I get carried, 30% of my games I carry and win, 50% of my games I get inted (myself not having a bad score or being mvp), then losing 10% of my games by myself. It gets annoying trying to play as best as you can then get rewarded with an inting player in my team.
I was Season 4 GM and it used to be prestigious and you are considered somewhat pro, now even a noob can hit master/gm being carried by 1 guy. I quit the game for 3 months now and life has been better for me. I dont know how, but riot has to do something about this "inflation" cuz now being gm/master is not as prestigious as it was once before and im sick of troll players
You forgot the biggest reason, low player count, that is why they made it easier to rank up, to incentivize players to keep grinding and to make queue times faster
A grandmaster player first pick yasuo mid and lost the lane to a orianna and the jungler have to babysit his lane to help him to get kills and push the mid tower with herald. What's funny that orianna is a support main in emerald 1. Clearly something wrong here right?
How long is the tempory shield on current rank system for slow climb protecting you on losses? Just Managed gold v in 2 weeks support and adc Not bashing the system compared with main game there is still are less champions slowly added from main
I personally got better at the game. I have never played league on PC and when i started playing Wild Rift you can imagine how skilled i was and how i understood the game. In season 5 i started to look at the patch notes and upcoming updates to the game. I'm still doing it now. So i started to use new metas and learn more and more about the game also darkbreaker helped a lot
Y’all too much… why would you want to replicate the ranked system on desktop that’s absolutely terrible?? Where high elo players have long queue times and then get bored and go smurf and ruin lower elo games??? Also the LP system on desktop is bizarrely calculated and punishing for no reason. Also I find it funny that Wild Rift publishes NO DATA about the ranked distribution system but everyone wants to make up numbers to complain about it??? Just play the game. The game isn’t putting anyone in a rank they don’t “deserve”. They had to win or loose the games the games to get there.
I kind of agree, people should get over ranked being inflated and go to legendary queue if they want competition. Ranked is just an improved version of pvp now, which is not a bad thing, less waiting, higher rank for your ego, you can play with friends, no one cares
I agree with the "special" treatment of high spending players, I've met a lot of players at emerald with lots of skins but has poor skills, its not fun to play the game anymore, be it rank or pvp. At one time, when I bought the Dawnbringer Riven, it felt like the system was in my favor, been winning lots of rank games straight, and after a few weeks, It went back to having toxic teammates. And one more thing, that ridiculous ping spike in rank sucks, start having a good connection at the lobby, then all of a sudden 999ms in game. Riot needs to fix these problems
I had a 49.7% wr (about ranked 400 games) in season six (I have made to gm each season since season 4) and made it to 30lp gm. My wr is less than 50% but I’m the best performing player on my team 2/3 games. More often I dealt twice the damage of my adc than my adc having dealt more damage than me. I play jungle, evelynn main + a little bit of olaf, morgana and shyvana. I started legendary ranked just a couple weeks ago and have 70% wr after 80 games. I finished in Vanquisher I. Up until vanquisher the games felt really easy and I stomped almost every game, even though many opponents where master, gm or challenger but played like they just bought the account a week ago. Yes, sometimes I have bad games but that happens maybe once every 10 games. 7/10 I stomp the enemy jungler into the ground, 2/10 its even and one time I get stomped, but still less than 50% wr in ranked.
I've reach challenger in both pc and wildrift and yes i do agree with what you said. The players quality in wildrift compared to summoner rift is a huge dif. In summoner rift player are force to not just mastering your champ but also mastering the mechanic itself. I can clearly remember i was busting my ass trying to mastering baron role back then. What happen on top stay on top jg dont come yeah that's not a joke. 😂 Compared to wild rift, it's either you get trolled or you get crybaby. "I can't jg riot autorolled me" yes that's because the role you wanted got filled by players that are better than you so get your grip together! Have you heard mundo or jarvan or vi at the very least. They are the most easiest jg to be play so play them! No need to go wannabe faker or showmaker just take a babystep.
This is absolutely correct even my winrate is not as good as others I played solo que since season 0 It is getting worsen every single season My worst lose streak was atleast 11 straight loses I want to learn more I want to grind more but F that problem
I have a question. I'm currently in plat rn and I just don't find playing ranked enjoyable bcs every game some one is a baby learning how to walk. So I've never pushed for emerald and above. Do you guys think I should push? I honestly don't know bcs I want to play with better people but it's too tilting to play with these monkeys.
Exactly why I don't go for above diamond since s4. Early seasons even diamond was hard since you could be matched with very skilled players that are on leaderboards now. After s4 the amount of toxicity and trolling isn't just worth the nerves for higher title. Now I just play for few days to hit diamond and uninstall. Haven't had above 100 games per season since s4.
Currently I'm emrald but the teammates I get in soloQ are people who instant locks master yi who always goes 0 9 and afk farming adc and support with 0 game sense and are completely blind about what is happening on the map, as a mid player it's so frustrating to play with such F players
i find it funny because i reached challenger easily and early seasons, and it's harder now. I reached Master on the second day of the current season, and for some reason, the matchmaking takes forever for me now.
You forgot to mention another thing that has been rampant lately.. the massive amount of wintraders and boosters. While wintraders were present in previous seasons, mostly in challengers, 5mans trading with each other, now they're basically everywhere. And the boosters.. just today I've had a 0-11-2 Kayle on my team.. in a game that ended in 8 minutes. 65% winrate master, with 0.8kda and 12% teamfight participation... Game is truly going to shit sadly...
Totally agree! These past few seasons have been so bad that I’d rather have an afk in a rank game than a troll! Then need to bring back the old system and RESET EVERYONE. If ppl suck and they’re hard stuck, that’s on THEM!
In the NA server we don’t have this kind of inflation. Master is still around 1% of server consistently. The biggest issue with the game is the trolling and lack of repercussions for those players. It’s also impossible to reach challenger if you are not proficient in all roles. Also if you don’t know how to jungle you will not reach challenger unless you get carried in duo/trio queue.
I feel like even in Europe, legendary queue should be the only queue that should matter. You can't get carried by your friends, you only have yourself.
@@Thomas-lu6tc Legendary que became bullshit late in the season. I remember getting teamed with inflated diamond 4’s that wouldn’t even know when to recall and to group/back off
I’m in NA, so it’s not as bad yet. I will say, win rate % doesn’t mean much to me. You could be losing 80% of your games first half of the season, and then win 75% of your games second half of the season. You would have 47.5% WR and be pretty high on the ladder. You could have been bad first half of season, and then learned and gotten better second half. This is just 1 example
If that the case you didn't learn anything you just waited for all the good players to climb and it made it too easy playing against the 40% wr inflated players.
While I dont agree with this specific example ( because at the end of the season its easy to climb ) but yea win rate doesnt matter since you could play like a god and still lose bcs your top laner went 0/10 against Kayle and now you are screwed but I believe there is a matchmaking system that pairs you with good players if you lose alot in a row so having a very very low win rate ( like 20% as you said ) is not good
the best video i've seen cuz thats a huge prblm bro i played with masters and gm that don't even know what a anti heal and anti crit is they claim just by playing a lot of game and that makes the game going down if you are a diamond player u need at least to understand all items and know all champs abilities the only diff that should be between masters ,gms and challengers is macro play.
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I agree. Anyone can be Challenger if they just play enough games per day
Yep, this is very true. I know my skill is right about mid of gold ranked, but when i played nearly everyday in the last season, i managed to push to diamond4
I stick to normal and aram, ranked is too toxic. I'm pretty sure I could get to master, but why? Casual play is simply more fun right now. P.s. there is also the question about the size of the player base, do we have enough players for people to regularly find competition of similar ability?
I was Gold or Platinum in S1, and then it started... The Salty Cancer Randoms that Raged into the Feeding Illnes. I saw Garen Mid Lane, i saw 2 APs in Botlane. I've Seen so much hate, Rage and Trolling in Ranked Games..
Since Season 3 each season gets worse and worse, inflation gets worse and worse. Riot needs to do something. Imagine we are at the point where 12% of the playerbase is within Master, when its used to be less than 1% in old seasons. Its honestly depressing, great video to raise awareness about this issue xd
Hope u will also make a vid about this on your channel, everyone need to spam about this issue
Hey man I watch your videos and love your content. Ive been experimenting with being overly nice and supportive to the team regardless of how toxic they are. Trust it works wonders on stoping people from griefing if you say "Gj good kill'' ''Sorry that was my bad'' all the time
Also wasnt there a huge issue with Q times that brought about certain changes?
I will ask you dark breaker. Weren't these changes for addressing que times? So they literally succeeded in that and now people complain that there are too many people in higher ranks?
Told u SEA server is harder
great video, this needs to be spread for awareness because I am sick and tired of the current ranked system.
love you hell's keep up the good work.
Make a video about this also hells, everyone need to spam
Hey man I watch your videos and love your content. Ive been experimenting with being overly nice and supportive to the team regardless of how toxic they are. Trust it works wonders on stoping people from griefing if you say "Gj good kill'' ''Sorry that was my bad'' all the time
Hey I’m from NA and I feel we have the problem too now if you are telling me in top 1.25 percent and I get some of the teammates I get I can only imagine what you guys are going through
on the dot. i told my friend all this. at the end of the day they dont give a shit lol as long as these kids keep spending they wont ban em even if they are bad. im convinced they will ignore any reports as long as they are spending. The better you are the bigger the trash bag you are handed to carry to keep these kids having fun.
As a support main,I find it very frustrating at times,the matchmaking makes it almost impossible in certain games to make any difference.
When 2 out of 5 players are basically going 0-10 with champs they barely ever tried in a ranked,you can just try and win by luck (cause in solo or duo you cannot coordinate much).
Support main just rely on their own luck
@@e-plays2907 yeah,skills are never enough...
i can agree these days i only play casual matches cuz its more fun and cuz players there actually know the basics and when im talking about the basics im talking about looking at the map and surviving the first 5 minutes of line
Tell me about it. Back in my days as Iron - Silver, i just spammed Braum and we did fantastic. But when it reaches gold 1 to plat that's when the shit hit the fan. They dont know about low defense line and minion management, they dont ward so they kept geting early ganks, big egos at draft pick, and they blamed ME, the support who roams around babysitting their asses.
Honor system is a must the amount of games i had with people leaving after not getting first drake is unbearable 🤦
I'm getting sick of that.... Too.
Happened in a game of Vanquisher elo. I asked a guy who was inting after losing first drake "is one drake = lose?" He deadass said "yes and f*ck your dead mom". Then he proceeded to clear my camps and went afk. Of course he didn't get punished at all.
its quiet hard to comeback if ur team behind after 1st dragon in higher ranked.riot should consider this
@@muzakkirmohd4060 not really, 4 platings is more worth it than one dragon. Better off getting herald and use it instantly to get gold when enemy going for drake.
@@muzakkirmohd4060 your weak will and mental makes me puke
Spread the Word! Finally someone adressing the REAL problem WR is having for a few seasons. Please share this video on as many platforms as you can so that someone at Riot can finally see what the playerbase wants
They have to do this because not all people want to play harder games..that's the point of mobile league its easier and shorter.. Just uninstall this game and play league PC more fun because its harder right 😏
What's that real problem?
Musch
@@dear_myself people play wild rift because they don't have PC or they don't like League Of Legends there are many changes in those two games like rune system etc also League Of Legends is not harder it's just more complicated than wild rift
@@dear_myself Yeah ditch and completely ignore the competetive scene in a game with a COMPETETIVE ENVIRONMENT amirite? Yeah continue being Rito's cash cow slave they sure love those.
I've been playing more normal pvp last season, and I find the quality of games better there. I noticed it's less trolls/afks/toxicity. In ranked it's a clown fiesta (big egos, trash talking in preselect, alot of pointless chasing, low health but throw themselves to enemy, neglecting the crashing minion waves at the turrets). Oh and for some reason in ranked the duo lane, they keep dying every 30 seconds.
lmao it's the opposite for me XD. in my experience, pvp is unbalanced af.
i got matched with iron in my team & 3 master on the enemy side. and when it's balanced, some players likes to troll/afk because it's 'pvp'.
PvP is a joke , no competition at all. If I play PvP now, it is just to test out new champions. And even then I total smurf , the ranks make no sense
Playing ADC in low elo was always a pain because your support either tries to farm or just doesnt know how to engage. Now i climbed to masters thinking the quality would enhance but it didnt. I get so many people that dont buy the support of item, they dont know when to push wave or to recall. And when you as adc dont follow up on a kamikaze mission they say "ADC trash" or smth like that...
For me pvp us far worse
I ( diamond 3 player ) got matched with iron or bronze players
Riot match making is really bad which makes me quit the game
@@akihikokougeki8945 you havent even started playing the game being master 3 at the end of the season xD its like being plat 1 3 seasons ago
Hard reset EVERYONE!! Let them cry. DO IT!! Then bring back LP that isn’t some kind of baby’s first moba version and bring back placements. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! If you were stuck in Diamond until last year when they babified rank, that IS WHERE YOU BELONG!! Deal with it.
agree bro. too elo inflated. the way that i can tell Plat players on league PC is better than wild rift GM+ players
They killed the game basically, first they removed promos and now this shit points system everyone can reach master now by just playing so many games, for the game to come back we need both promos and LP system back with hard rest everyone to platinum.
Agreed
I couldn‘t agree more on this
Im with it. I am by no means a pro. And my understanding of the fundamental elements in the game is solid. Get to your rank by your skills. Because I don't like getting matched with people that aren't my skill level, be them higher or lower. Im guilty of ditching games, only because I refuse to break my phone or my toe, AGAIN. LOL
Would be very nice if riot would hear it.
I think there will be the same amount of people spending money for a game, that is worth getting better and being rewarded after a long journey.
They know people doesn't like harder game especially in mobile that's why they make it easier to climb...this game also doesn't have too much player..so matchmaking could be so bad if there are too less player in high elo..
They won't do anything, legendary queue was their way to try and address the issue. The majority of players are terrible and the change suits them.
Play the game since release and 2023 nothing has change.
I was a diamond-ranked player by season 2 and now currently in master, but damn i still feel like my game sense in the past is so much better than my game sense now
The fact that ARAM feels more fun than the normal ranked mode lol
team ARAM
ARAM let's goooo
On one hand, i like fortitude, because it saves me from losing a game when im getting griefed by some dude whose ego was hurt or smth. On the other hand i understand its just a crutch and it doesnt address the fundamental problem.
Tho, knowing how this exact problem exists in the PC game, i dont think we are anywhere close to seeing it getting resolved.
I remember how hard it was get out of diamond it took me like 200 games reach master in s2 but in the last 3 seasons i was able to reach gm in like 50 to 70 games. XD
Imagine you must very often tell your support that there is a freaking support item in the game in grandmaster or to explain to the stupid adc that his tank can last hit minions with the sup item ...
I agree with you. Diamond used to be high elo but now it's not.
Sometimes, just sometimes support items sucks hard. I know you are grieving about Nami, Karma and Lux not taking support items and they play like mid lane. The damage that everyone of you team really matter, I only play support items in some sense if my adc can have healthy CS, then I know he is good to play around. But most of the times support items sucks hard against mage items unfortunately expect for sicke and relic shield and mandate.
@@karimgoudy Im talking about the the new sup item idk what its called idc about my supp if he goes mage or supp items. Its just the huge gold disadvantage you get as supp without the item
@@zawarudo384 back when I was playing PC lol it took me 2 months to get to emerald and a total of 1 year to diamond. In pc the opponents are just too hard to deal with because keyboard isn't as seamless as sliding your fingers in mobile moba games.
In s2 i played 600 hundred games to be in Diamond 4 whn i climb dia 4 almost screamed and so proud of myself for like 1 week but now when i get gm in 130 match i dont feel a single thing its Just sad now
As a League player I think it is kind of suprising that the communities are distinct enough that the solution you suggest is so far removed from simply implementing League's ranked system.
rank means zero in WR. all masters and grandmasters have 47-48% win rates. the matchmaking system is a meme. until they fix the algorithm so it isn’t literal garbage, the game is going to flounder
Matchmaking system can be only fixed by promotion series.
Direct climbing ruins gaming experience. Bcoz all unworthy players climbing so easily
actually return the promotional match and allowed only duo when you're in iron to diamond when they reach master dont let them play duo but solo only
Yupp
true
ranked fortitude is broken
Losing so many games at Diamond previous season because of players who don't know what they were doing was frustrating, let alone losing because of trolls, this current system needs purification.
A hard reset to everyones mmr would bring me back to the game! So sad that people in challanger with sub 50% winrate can outrank me due to playing more games than me even though I have a 60% wr. Hopefully they can fix elo inflation to the rank system like season 2 and before.
Winrate is also based on this matchmaking meaning you can carry each game but still lose. Just because the people in the same rank are inflated
No no not only hard reset add promos back remove this stupid rank protection system ( which allows player to get higher rank with 48% win rate)and players needs to match with same rank ( in current match making emerald 4 get matched with diamond 1 which doesn't make any sense same in LQ commander 4 get matched with guardian 1)
Didn’t riot add a system a while back to make everyone’s win rate at a solid 50 by making people above 50 playing with the lower than 50?
@@FLS9083 promos would be the pre-promotion matches you had to win? Otherwise you had to start again?
@@buncotton9669 that's the system since PC league. They try to make It so that you lose and have a 50% WR. They also try to make you be promoted after a number of matches so it would be difficult for Smurfs to easily get rank 1, 2, 3 cause they would have to spend so much time in each account.
To prevent smurfing they hurt everyone and make It terrible to play.
It's interesting finding this video, been playing WR for about 5 months and got as high as plat and it felt weirdly easily but though it was just me. Then I go back to play league and find out you get up to two free wins for promos, it seems like the "appeal to masses" for competitive games is spreading like wild fire and its a symptom of competitive games going hard main stream. Almost every competitive scene that I've been in or participated in has done the same thing (pokemon, fighting games, shooting games), sadly the days of sweaty competitive scenes are a relic of the past and slowly going away.
How is that sad? Competitiveness should have NEVER existed in games
You're gonna have to pick your poison on this one
Quality over quantity = Higher queue times
Quantity over quality = elo inflation
there will be no in-between, regardless of what riot does on the matchmaking. the next update might be landing on the center of the two, but as time go on, it's gonna lean on either of them. Take also to account that the players are the ones that caused this
the in between would be legendary queue
@@Thomas-lu6tc they should out legendary que as primary and solo/duo que as secondary
Just for comparison, the top 11% on league of legends in august 2022 is platinum 3+.
Damn
Hard reset everyone? That's gonna hurt the player base
But overtime it's definitely going to get better if the game becomes an actual competitive game
The current matchmaking hurts more than a hard reset.
@@seangen true, let's just hope there'd be a hard reset and a fix to ranked in the next season or something :P
Remember the fear of being matched with masters/grandmasters from the MMR based matchmaking. Was a completely different game.
7 months later, we’re in season 9 and i’m in master…. I wasn’t even diamond in S3, I was low plat. Happy I got there but sad that I’ll have to get to challenger for it to mean half as much.
Gotta love the top 11%
riot lowered the competitiveness of normal ranked because they wanted to create legendary ranked which is something original to LoL mobile in the last season players kept complaining about how some players kept abusing 5 q and trio q to rank up and players felt that they have to play in party to rank up in legendary ranked you have to play solo q and you have to play the role that you master
tbh, legendary rank is kinda meh to me. you have to wait for legendary rank to open and u can’t spam legendary rank always.
oh look at me, i am a grandmaster but only a commander in the legendary queue....hmm....i wonder why
Season 1 and 2 was the most sweaty season. I remember being hopeless in Emerald, but I still managed to get to Masters since Diamond was a breeze. I stopped playing the game til I decayed back to Emerald, and holy shit. The current Emerald players felt like playing with/against Gold players back in beta and the first two seasons. It's not even funny that I'd go 10/0 on 3 consecutive games, and still lose without being queued up in a higher elo.
We need a way larger playerbase for us to have an actual high elo.
The thing is, riot gave up this game. Remember, riot is one of the biggest gaming companies in the world (owned by tencent). Tencent don't want this game to overshadow their other titles, so there is no budget for advertising. Ask yourself, when is the last time you saw a WR ad? Probably back in season 3 lol.
Edit: and stop deceiving the new playerbase by adding bots into their games.
I never discarded the bot theory
This game has the most manipulative and unfair matchmaking. Don't try it. It will hook you in with a few wins but will then on, be so against you every match feels like torture. Quit or avoid it while you are still ahead.
Well players on the line like to blame junglers even though they are the ones who play badly. In many cases junglers are not helped to take objectives and in other cases line players are eager to kill.I as a jungler felt it, even if I managed to steal the dragon or the Baron would definitely lose if my team only cared about killing opponents instead of pushing.Crazy start to the season😓
This is my first moba and I'm noob, but I've got into master. I can see the skill gap, I shouldn't be there. On top of that I can see the players who are worse than me and are in master. It's absolutely crazy.
It gets even worse because match making puts diamond 4 players in the game. If one team gets a particularly bad D4 player it's a predetermined outcome. Not satisfying to play at all.
NA Wild Rift and PC player here. I'm bronze in PC and Gold/Plat in WR... I can tell you from personal experience that they don't feel too different. I don't mind an ELO reset.
Bro the jungle part is so truee, i play jungle and got blamed for everything like it's really crazy, that's why i quit jungle and play toplane instead, whether i play good or bad, i have never been blamed
I was top 1k players last season playing sion supp 65% win rate. It is just getting worse and worse. I tried to talk about this on WildRift reddit, all my posts were denied. You can't have people with 48/49% win rate get to master grandmaster, just because they've 800 games.
The sad part is My group started Playing WR but Im the only one who stayed. Everyone went back to ML. i still play both though. But most of the time, I play ML because of he quick pacing. Action starts at level 4 for for assassins. And the game is finished within 15 minutes (high rank)
I literally went 11-0-10 on Akali today on ranked and still lost coz my team have no map awareness and game sense 💔💔
That happened to me so many times. Where you carry your team and still lose. That's when you learn kills don't win games. After adjusting my playstyle. I found myself winning more games
Great video indeed. Very honest evaluation of everything (close to) what is wrong with the game. Skill gap in games and trolling is unbearable and really frustrating.
As a new player that just started playing yesterday and just stumbled upon this video while watching guides and damn hearing this is really discouraging me to grind up if its just going to be like this... I atleast want to be rewarded for getting better at the game
Man i suggest you to drop this sht as soon as possible or else you gonna build up a bad addiction to it and im saying all of this to you as a former PC&Mobile League player. Mobile version so far has been a dead cause Rito now only cares about how to satisfy their brainless cash cows.
2023 now.both normal and rank really sucks...i can tell whos who...Teamates who will do good in middle game so i dont throw that game and keep pushing until getting that Win... play all roles...the biggest downfall is the bot lane and the jungler....if both falls...its alrealy a lossing state....playing mid and going to bot lane helps team alot...if jungler too busy....and that game mentality is mosly missing to wildrift player...they just want to hunt and kill...they just want to be lucky in a clash...no one wants to punish a overpush enemy player...and defend the tower...if i can't sense it to my teammates....definitely im throwing the game...thats the wildrift state right now...to teamwork...and composition in champion picking....Thats worst than mobile legends...i mean mobile legends end game is much good than wildrift.. .in ML you can fight if your feed up just farm the lane...in wildrift youll just have to give up.....
Rank is shit. I was in Masters and I am still playing with people who do not know how to time objectives and rage quits over a support killing a minon to proc the support item.
After reaching GM, I stopped playing ranked. Legendary queue is much better. Last season, I got stuck in vanquisher I, but the experience was still much better than regular ranked.
This is such a good video! Well said and well executed 💯 hope to hearing your voice more Vindey!!!!❤❤❤
maybe will help bringing the point system back into diamond and above instead of this win marks,, the old system punished you taking back more points from you if you lose and giving you less if you win , was like win +10, loss -13/15 points forcing you into winning more to achieve a tier , that point system separated the good players in masters and above from the bad in Diamond or lower
+10 -15 was brutal tho. I got 3 games in a row afk and went down 45 points for no reason cuz remake not existed and "protection" for afk not existed either. +11 -13 was okay.
@@SAINT_SPYRO Well, excepting the rounds when you get afk which in my opinion are the only rounds that should be spared by shields this system is fair
This inflation is so annoying, but it’s also very smart from the devs, because if you get „highrank“ it’s more likely you keep playing, it’s a bait.
Everyone can hit challenger with enough time in wild rift.
I agree . Master ELO is full of diamond players who have an ego in the size of a mountain . Literally u cannot convince them that they r not good mechanically
Imagine most of high elo players don't know the basics 💀 I think the only thing that excites me about wild rift is only the champion releases 😢 It also becomes so hard to climb now
I could not tell how many times I've met with dudes bragging Yasuo, Yi, or zed with mastery 7 only to find out they have 44% wr and use that mastery as an excuse for their harmful actions.
As a SEA player, I always said this and I'll keep on saying it. Despite being better in EVERY ASPECT than Mobile Legends, the sheer incompetence of Wild Rift matchmaking somehow still able to make ML a more fun game to play.
I already quit this game. I thas been nearly 2 months now
I am so sick of those trollers and toxic players quiting games for not getting first drake and master ranked player not having knowlege and skill of platinum rank
Making player inflation in diamond made WR doomed , which was very bad decision of Riot
And removing promo matches is also a bad move
Matching platinum 4 with Diamond 1 is also a bad match making system
Nerfs and buffs are always irrelavent
Riot needs to try harder if they really want to maintain WR for the future and needs to stop acting like they are superior than the other Moba games just because LOL PC is the father of MOBAs
Tft has a mechanic where after 2 sets (2 season 6 months) every person's rank resets completely (not mmr) and you play 5 placement matches and highest you can get is gold 4/gold 1, depends on the players previous rank and the matches won in the placements, and after 1 set, second set soft resets and you drop to d4 if you're challenger gm or master.
The devs need to see this
As long as Masters isn't hard gated (i.e. only fixed numbers of players can be Masters) then it's possible for everyone in the playerbase to get to it. Nothing wrong with that.
The problem in this game is not the ranking, I personally think it's the auto fill system. I play as fill 100% of the time, and in 19/20 games I get JG role. What this says is very few people plays JG, which is arguably the most important role in the game. I can also say that when I got better in JG role, my winrate improved a lot, and this is mostly because the enemy JG doesn't know what he's doing.
When a player can’t climb rank without fortitude , they will quit. Every player that quit are going on to be a major issue for riot. They need to balance competitiveness , fairness and also ability to survive or make a profit.
I'm diamond 2 and one time playing duo with my friend that is an Emerald 3 I caught Platinum players. It doesn't make sense at all. If I can't queue with platinum in premade party why does the game let platinum play with diamonds?????? Another thing that frustrates me a lot are lots of diamonds that play like gold: don't ward river, objectives, don't gather (the basic mechanics)... It's awful especially when people are playing full SoloQ. I'd like another elo either between Platinum and Emerald or between Emerald and Diamond to separate better the good players from the awful players. Another thing I'd like to happen more during ranks is the recreation. It doesn't make sense if recreation doesn't happen in all matches when someone is visibly afk. Having it and not having happens to be the same once that doesn't work well. I'd like also that ranked games allowed only solo queue players or make the legendary ranks (like flex in lol pc) starting in emerald due the premade teams that sabotage lots of soloq. I think that the elos are unbalanced due to premade groups. A player can simply carry rhe other noobs, it's like elo job without paying.
About step three... There are already plenty of resources to learn from, people are just not willing to do the work.
After seeing how long it takes for them to bring remake to the game, I don't think they'll bring the honor system anytime soon. I'd love to be proven wrong though.
In my opinion, Riot "Games" doesn't know how to make proper games, and with logical rules for its community. Wild Rift is a very good example for being such a huge disappointment. Not referring to its gameplay, but more to its matchmaking system and also the penalties or notices.
Riot doesn't know how to make matchmaking systems. It's very obvious. Either they have bad programmers or they are lazy to do the job right. Many of the matches, no matter what mode you choose to play on, they are incredibly broken, unbalanced, etc. Also, the penalties or notices... man, this is so annoying, irritating and also tiring. Why do I have to get banned because I decided to help the enemies to end the match faster just because my team was full of noobs and wouldn't even surrender? Why noobs should play this game on first place? Yes, the game is free, but just because it's free, doesn't necessarily mean that it's for everyone, and this is where Riot loses the road.
And by banning a lot of players that some of them have decided to invest on Riot's skins which are relatively expensive, that's even worse, because this way Riot substantially steals money. Then Riot forces you in its own way that if you want your skins back, you have to pay for them again by creating a new account and start over. Well, this doesn't make any sense at all. Riot is from the worst videogame companies I've ever seen.
things that need to be rework on ranked:
1: fuck duo/trio abusers, soloQ is the only true way of getting better at league/WR and climbing ranks. if u wanna party, make a new 5-man ranked by reworking existing guild system
2: fuck mark-based tally system, as it doesnt rewarding better players for winning the game and implement LP to all tier, also making LP requirement goes higher on higher tier
3: fuck BM players, as they ruining ranked players' experience
4: fuck smurfers, as it ruining new players experience
5: fuck account traders, selling/buying high elo account doesnt make ur skill as same as them
6: fuck boosted players, tier promotion need to be back since boosters having fun making moneys
This. I agree with all of this. I am jungle main, used to be a vi one trick reaching emerald. Upon reaching top 100 with her and diamond I dropped her completely in order to learn new lanes and champs so that I can improve my gameplay as a jungler by understanding other lanes. Then returned to jungle with new champs increasing my champion pool and this year I reached master stomping my way through the ranks.... But I don't feel like I achieved something. I didn't feel like it's a higher rank it feels like I am playing on diamond all over again and in turn it makes me doubt my skills. Did I reach there because I tried and improved or was I just pushed into there because below average players are there too because of the system. In all honestly I don't feel like I am worthy of thus rank at all
I reached grandmaster in 1 1/2 season..
I got masters cause of feeders on the enemy team for two games. They just ran down mid, or afked walking in the jungle.
meaning, uve gotten better.. silly you
Before, it took me so hard just to climb to diamond 4, took a break, then last season, i was surprised i climbed from plat to master 32 in like 1 and a half months? It was crazy quick honestly. I dont think im that good LMAO!🤣 The struggle inside the plat-diamond was lowkey nonexistent. I think getting matched with diamonds in masters is good. Gives a bit of a challenge for both parties. If the diamond player is worthy to play with masters and the master having the patience and skill to help carry the team. Yes it was chaotic but it had lots of challenges. I also agree that lots of people in masters really dont know even the basics, some are not even flexible in their roles, dont know prioritization and have the lowest patience. So easy to give up, troll, or lose their shit. I hope they can fix it soon. NGL, i dont deserve to remain on masters, i feel like i shouldve dropped back to dia on my last grind last season but i just remained in masters all the way. TBH it felt like i was just playing pvp. I sometimes dont even take the game seriously at some point. Its just all over the place. I hope they have a solution to it soon
Thank god someone addressed this issue I once saw my adc tristana jump into a blitz hook in grandmaster rank and a lee sin who doesn't know how to use his ultimate at higher rank and always kicks the target away from the team.
at diamond rank people think the normal elemental drake is more important than baron or the towers.
Jungle role isn’t the most appreciated role in the game because of the heavy responsibility of playing this role. Imagine receiving all the hate because of a missed objective, gank, etc. Not many players are keen to learn the role cuz….it receives the most toxicity. The worst part is the matchmaking in solo rank where I had 11 games where people say “I don’t play jungle” and we lose because well he/she can’t play jungle in HIGH ELO
4hrs into the game, I didn't understand 80% of what you were talking about😂, but watched anyway.
TLDW :
getting master and grandmaster rank is getting too easy because of a lack of a good system.
I sent a complaint to riot about their shitty matchmaking and the reply was basically that riot has made sure that each team has a 50% chance of winning each match so I asked if they could elaborate on what he meant by that and what methods they use to ensure that each team on each match has a 50% chance of winning and no reply yet
cuz they use bots to reply to players therefore they won't answer questions that aren't relevant to the complaints
Skill is (supposedly) measured by MMR, and rank (to enable progression) doesn’t reflect skill-intentionally.
And discussion about addressing inflation and skill gaps must deal with MMR.
MMR differences in lobbies also explain why it’s possible for a more skilled player to have a bad winrate, and still be more skilled.
The video has a lot of good points, but it missed on this issue.
OMG!! That's gooing to hurt! Amazing video! I don'tn think Riot is thinking of doing anything but it's nice to see you guys speaking up!! thanks a lot!!
Normal ranked is dead. I exclusively played legendary queue as soon as I reached diamond last season and climbed to guardian 1.
Now I‘ve been reset to platinum 2 due to the weird new reset rules.
All I want is play legendary ranked again but platinum is literally bronze and I don‘t see myself getting back to diamond 4 any time soon…
Kinda hard to fix the rank system when the playerbase is very big....inflating ranks was a desperate because everyone was complaining about really long que times
we do the blitzcrank troll game as well, to point out that the reporting system and permaban system is nonexistent nor working. we will not stop trolling (responsibly) until riot implement a better reporting system.
our strategy: a 5 man will rank up 5 games, then we will individually queue (seperately) and ruin games 5x for others. so 5 x 5 = 25 games to ruin and then we will group up and rank up 5 games again ( rinse and repeat).
I think i do understand that blitzcrank, i would as well rather wait 5 more mins of que time rather than getting putted as 5th assigned pos. That iam not enjoy playing..
That one problem in ranked is
Platinum ranks also called as
*Elo Hell* which is so freaking
hard to get over.
And the games in platinum ranks
are too confusing...it's like
Having a Smurf enemy
And a bad teammate.
And the other way around-
Having a good teammate
(Probably a Smurf)
And very BAD enemy
Like I said, the games in platinum elo is way too confusing and it's TOO
UNFAIR for everyone.
I mean u can't enjoy a good game with SMURFS or just good at high ceiling champ that CAN 1v9
Totally agree, wildrift don't have fair matchmaking system they only care about earning money from average players who can buy their skins. Climbing the ladder is easier for those lucky players who are queued against weaker opponents making it a one sided game. These totally need to be resolved before the game goes beyond the worst.
9:33.
Agreed. One more step is Ban champs that is being used on the other lane. For example, if a baron laner is going to use an adc on the lane, the game should not make the role adc, support, jungle, and mid available to that baronlaner and riot must be flexible on the champs available for the player to choose on the lane.
One BIG ISSUE THEY NEED TO FIX ASAP!
If it ever happens to you, one of your teammate will disconnect and then recon and then disconnect again in the entirety of the game . and you cant even do a thing to remake the game its like a free lose how is it fair. This also happened to tyler1. And they will give you some protection points like 150+-300 players feel like its a way of bargaining of the problem which is not enough, 4v5 in a game in high elo is a sure lose riot should fix this.
Honestly I stopped playing ranked because of having at least 1 inting teammate every game. If I had to put it in percentages I think 10% of my games I get carried, 30% of my games I carry and win, 50% of my games I get inted (myself not having a bad score or being mvp), then losing 10% of my games by myself.
It gets annoying trying to play as best as you can then get rewarded with an inting player in my team.
We don't even have the game.
-India
( When it releases I will give it 1 star and enjoy the game )
I was Season 4 GM and it used to be prestigious and you are considered somewhat pro, now even a noob can hit master/gm being carried by 1 guy. I quit the game for 3 months now and life has been better for me. I dont know how, but riot has to do something about this "inflation" cuz now being gm/master is not as prestigious as it was once before and im sick of troll players
You forgot the biggest reason, low player count, that is why they made it easier to rank up, to incentivize players to keep grinding and to make queue times faster
Really? Okay maybe I'm biased but all I see is elitism, granted I didn't finish the video
Im fine with Riot making classic Rank only in solo without duos/squads and removing safe protection.
A grandmaster player first pick yasuo mid and lost the lane to a orianna and the jungler have to babysit his lane to help him to get kills and push the mid tower with herald.
What's funny that orianna is a support main in emerald 1. Clearly something wrong here right?
How long is the tempory shield on current rank system for slow climb protecting you on losses?
Just Managed gold v in 2 weeks support and adc
Not bashing the system compared with main game there is still are less champions slowly added from main
I personally got better at the game. I have never played league on PC and when i started playing Wild Rift you can imagine how skilled i was and how i understood the game. In season 5 i started to look at the patch notes and upcoming updates to the game. I'm still doing it now. So i started to use new metas and learn more and more about the game also darkbreaker helped a lot
Oh yeah forgot to mention that season 6 is a joke
Y’all too much… why would you want to replicate the ranked system on desktop that’s absolutely terrible?? Where high elo players have long queue times and then get bored and go smurf and ruin lower elo games??? Also the LP system on desktop is bizarrely calculated and punishing for no reason. Also I find it funny that Wild Rift publishes NO DATA about the ranked distribution system but everyone wants to make up numbers to complain about it???
Just play the game. The game isn’t putting anyone in a rank they don’t “deserve”. They had to win or loose the games the games to get there.
I kind of agree, people should get over ranked being inflated and go to legendary queue if they want competition.
Ranked is just an improved version of pvp now, which is not a bad thing, less waiting, higher rank for your ego, you can play with friends, no one cares
I agree with the "special" treatment of high spending players, I've met a lot of players at emerald with lots of skins but has poor skills, its not fun to play the game anymore, be it rank or pvp. At one time, when I bought the Dawnbringer Riven, it felt like the system was in my favor, been winning lots of rank games straight, and after a few weeks, It went back to having toxic teammates.
And one more thing, that ridiculous ping spike in rank sucks, start having a good connection at the lobby, then all of a sudden 999ms in game. Riot needs to fix these problems
I had a 49.7% wr (about ranked 400 games) in season six (I have made to gm each season since season 4) and made it to 30lp gm. My wr is less than 50% but I’m the best performing player on my team 2/3 games. More often I dealt twice the damage of my adc than my adc having dealt more damage than me. I play jungle, evelynn main + a little bit of olaf, morgana and shyvana. I started legendary ranked just a couple weeks ago and have 70% wr after 80 games. I finished in Vanquisher I. Up until vanquisher the games felt really easy and I stomped almost every game, even though many opponents where master, gm or challenger but played like they just bought the account a week ago. Yes, sometimes I have bad games but that happens maybe once every 10 games. 7/10 I stomp the enemy jungler into the ground, 2/10 its even and one time I get stomped, but still less than 50% wr in ranked.
Thats right. I remembered playing up to ss4 was still quite right. But after it. it was a total nightmare.
I've reach challenger in both pc and wildrift and yes i do agree with what you said. The players quality in wildrift compared to summoner rift is a huge dif.
In summoner rift player are force to not just mastering your champ but also mastering the mechanic itself. I can clearly remember i was busting my ass trying to mastering baron role back then.
What happen on top stay on top jg dont come yeah that's not a joke. 😂
Compared to wild rift, it's either you get trolled or you get crybaby.
"I can't jg riot autorolled me" yes that's because the role you wanted got filled by players that are better than you so get your grip together!
Have you heard mundo or jarvan or vi at the very least. They are the most easiest jg to be play so play them! No need to go wannabe faker or showmaker just take a babystep.
This is absolutely correct even my winrate is not as good as others I played solo que since season 0
It is getting worsen every single season
My worst lose streak was atleast 11 straight loses
I want to learn more I want to grind more but F that problem
I have a question. I'm currently in plat rn and I just don't find playing ranked enjoyable bcs every game some one is a baby learning how to walk. So I've never pushed for emerald and above. Do you guys think I should push? I honestly don't know bcs I want to play with better people but it's too tilting to play with these monkeys.
Did you watch the video it explains how even Master players are playing like Iron
Exactly why I don't go for above diamond since s4. Early seasons even diamond was hard since you could be matched with very skilled players that are on leaderboards now. After s4 the amount of toxicity and trolling isn't just worth the nerves for higher title. Now I just play for few days to hit diamond and uninstall. Haven't had above 100 games per season since s4.
Currently I'm emrald but the teammates I get in soloQ are people who instant locks master yi who always goes 0 9 and afk farming adc and support with 0 game sense and are completely blind about what is happening on the map, as a mid player it's so frustrating to play with such F players
i find it funny because i reached challenger easily and early seasons, and it's harder now.
I reached Master on the second day of the current season, and for some reason, the matchmaking takes forever for me now.
You forgot to mention another thing that has been rampant lately.. the massive amount of wintraders and boosters. While wintraders were present in previous seasons, mostly in challengers, 5mans trading with each other, now they're basically everywhere. And the boosters.. just today I've had a 0-11-2 Kayle on my team.. in a game that ended in 8 minutes. 65% winrate master, with 0.8kda and 12% teamfight participation... Game is truly going to shit sadly...
Totally agree! These past few seasons have been so bad that I’d rather have an afk in a rank game than a troll! Then need to bring back the old system and RESET EVERYONE. If ppl suck and they’re hard stuck, that’s on THEM!
In the NA server we don’t have this kind of inflation. Master is still around 1% of server consistently. The biggest issue with the game is the trolling and lack of repercussions for those players. It’s also impossible to reach challenger if you are not proficient in all roles. Also if you don’t know how to jungle you will not reach challenger unless you get carried in duo/trio queue.
I feel like even in Europe, legendary queue should be the only queue that should matter. You can't get carried by your friends, you only have yourself.
@@Thomas-lu6tc Legendary que became bullshit late in the season. I remember getting teamed with inflated diamond 4’s that wouldn’t even know when to recall and to group/back off
@@Thomas-lu6tc Legendary Rank DOES NOT MATTER. It's based on a flawed regular rank.
I’m in NA, so it’s not as bad yet. I will say, win rate % doesn’t mean much to me. You could be losing 80% of your games first half of the season, and then win 75% of your games second half of the season. You would have 47.5% WR and be pretty high on the ladder. You could have been bad first half of season, and then learned and gotten better second half. This is just 1 example
If that the case you didn't learn anything you just waited for all the good players to climb and it made it too easy playing against the 40% wr inflated players.
While I dont agree with this specific example ( because at the end of the season its easy to climb ) but yea win rate doesnt matter since you could play like a god and still lose bcs your top laner went 0/10 against Kayle and now you are screwed but I believe there is a matchmaking system that pairs you with good players if you lose alot in a row so having a very very low win rate ( like 20% as you said ) is not good
the best video i've seen cuz thats a huge prblm bro i played with masters and gm that don't even know what a anti heal and anti crit is they claim just by playing a lot of game and that makes the game going down
if you are a diamond player u need at least to understand all items and know all champs abilities
the only diff that should be between masters ,gms and challengers is macro play.
I agree. Anyone can be Challenger if they just play enough games per day
Even Darkbreaker said that this game became spam to Challenger than the real grind.
Yep, this is very true. I know my skill is right about mid of gold ranked, but when i played nearly everyday in the last season, i managed to push to diamond4
I stick to normal and aram, ranked is too toxic. I'm pretty sure I could get to master, but why? Casual play is simply more fun right now.
P.s. there is also the question about the size of the player base, do we have enough players for people to regularly find competition of similar ability?
Normal is not safe, sometimes its even more toxic
One of my friend
Season 4 -> platinum
Season 5 -> emerald
Season 6 -> master
If you are reading this im not making fun of you bro just saying.
I was Gold or Platinum in S1, and then it started... The Salty Cancer Randoms that Raged into the Feeding Illnes.
I saw Garen Mid Lane, i saw 2 APs in Botlane. I've Seen so much hate, Rage and Trolling in Ranked Games..