Top Fuel Dragster VS F1 | The Ultimate Comparison
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2023
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SOME INSANE FACTS ABOUT TOP FUEL DRAGSTERS:
- Brittany Force holds the fastest run in NHRA's history: 545.47 km/h (338.94 mph), 3.641 seconds. A Ferrari Enzo or a NASCAR Cup car wouldn't even get to one-fifth of that speed in that time.
- A Top Fuel Dragster consumes as much fuel as a Boeing 747 which weights 412.000 kg (910,000 lbs).
- The cars are incredibly well prepared to protect drivers at those speeds. Racing a Top Fuel Dragster in the NHRA isn't more dangerous than racing in F1 or NASCAR.
- The sound is enough to cause physical pain measuring 2.3 on the Ritcher scale.
- The engines have to be completely rebuilt after a single run, same for the clutch. The tyres can do 8 runs though, so you would need 8 engines to wear a single tyre set.
- Teams can rebuild an engine in just 25 minutes.
- The exhaust gases produce over 500 kg (1100 lbs) of downforce which helps the dragster at launch.
- At top speed it generates 4000 kg (9000 lbs) of downforce.
- The tyres compress by up to 20 cm (8 inches) in diameter at launch, increasing the contact patch.
- Top fuel dragsters have carbon brakes as well as 2 parachutes to stop the car after they cross the finish line. Braking power isn't far off an F1 car.
VIDEOS
- Brittany Force's record run: ua-cam.com/video/b2lEQzb9vvM/v-deo.htmlsi=XTSXjrdTlGmjoKtm
- Tire wrinkle in slow motion: ua-cam.com/video/gXp2QgY1OB8/v-deo.htmlsi=_bHTcJEbLnYwGvYX
- Onboard with telemetry: ua-cam.com/video/TA3i2TNuxcY/v-deo.htmlsi=LIc5Y3SGOeCsGt1w
- 4 Wide Nationals: ua-cam.com/video/dkqoVUJ9gDk/v-deo.htmlsi=xcXATEzEmk3nwu3l
- Mike Austin's 2012 crash: ua-cam.com/video/vTpVd0P8tcU/v-deo.htmlsi=PHuPYSCttJM3ziKU
- Antron Brown's 2014 crash: ua-cam.com/video/RjjxZlB3MsE/v-deo.htmlsi=3hND7PsI1bb0QsfF
Share crazy facts/videos/articles you know about Top Fuel dragsters and I'll add them here so people learn more about this amazing machines! 👇
Fun Fact; They're really fucking fast
Great Vid btw!
Fun Fact: a Top Fuel dragster engine isn’t actually bigger than your mom, but it still outputs about 100000hp more than her.
The spark plugs die after like 200m and they just diesel the rest of the track, also they pump so much fuel that if they don't burn it, it'll hydro lock the engine
That AB video isn't the one I thought it was where the wheel studs sheared and the wheel ended up deep in the pits killing a spectator.
Fanny video😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
the top fuel dragster burns about 19 litres of petrol per second? That seems unreal. Would have guessed 0.5 to 2 liters per second. The fuel pumps must be absolutely insane.
I think that's a bit high. What I've read they consume about 87L for a run which includes warmup, burnout, staging to the line and the run itself, and that's the higher number I found. Average number is about 50-60L, which is still a lot.
A road car usually use a 100 to 250 LPH (liters per hour) fuel pump, funny cars and dragsters use +120 GPM (gallons per minute)... thats +28000 LPH.
At full throttle, a top fuel engine consumes about 1.5 gallons, or 5.7 liters, per second. So where some of the stronger muscle cars in the 60s got around 7 miles to the gallon, a top fuel engine makes about 6 gallons to the mile.
It's truly insane how powerful the engines are. 2 cars at the starting line are generating more power than an entire field of NASCAR stock cars.
They were already generating 7000 hp and reaching over 300 mph in a quarter mile... in 1993. 30 years ago.
I've been an avid drag racing fan since I was 3 and... let's just say, I was around when they first went 300 mph.
Top fuel dragsters run on nitromethane, not petrol
Dragsters don't have a petrol tank. They use Nitromethane
I like how dragster have the same mentality as group C cars : no grip, no handling, just power
More like.. POWEEEEERR!!
Group C had amazing grip and handling for its time. Especially the later ones like the peugeot
Ya for dragsters outside of power has to be put down in to the ground via 2 wheels (no jet/rocket propulsion), needs to have a strong roll cage, some banned materials, and some fuel regulations, they are essentially unlimited freedom of design.
Group C was pretty fast in the corners
Wtf are u talking
Some group C prototypes have groud effect and supposedly generate enough downforce to run on an upside-down surface
The Porsche 956 held the Nürburgring lap record for 35 years😭
It’s crazy how the Top Corner Racing and Top Drag Racing platforms are both open wheel n have the same basic look
Wings on a f1 car are for extra Corning grip, while wings on a top fuel car are just trying to keep it on the ground
@@RandomCommenter-qu2oc no the wings on dragsters are for grip as well lol
@@oblied yeah but without them you got a shitty rocket ship
@@RandomCommenter-qu2oc a top fuel dragster wouldnt be able to launch without its wings lol
@@obliedplenty of dragsters (and even funny cars) have tried to take off from the runway that is a drag strip. The rear wing was made to keep the rear tires planted, when accelerating. They make something like 5000 lbs of downforce at top speed.
Without it, a) the car would never reach those speeds... too busy spinning the rear tires, and b) if it somehow were to reach those speeds, it would be impossible to keep straight.
A front wing was added to help keep the nose of the car on the ground once the rear wings got so big. without it, or if one were to fail, the rear downforce would essentially launch the car into the air. Like I said, it's happened before.
Now we need an F1 car with dragster's power.
The 2000hp f2004 mod in question
I did that 👀
ua-cam.com/video/1X--5IsJBx0/v-deo.htmlsi=z6hhGJgVPEEamFCM
Although a bit much more than what dragsger produces
Mcmurtry speirling is kind of car that Accelerate like an dragster while also cornering like an f1 it just the top speed is losing on both of them
@@devves25z18 mcmurty's acceleration is similar to F1 if we do rolling run
Now we need a dragster with F1’s cornering speeds
Dragsters on the 1/4 mile is already scary enough. Imagine just how _terrifying_ it would be on a 1km straight.
They wouldn't last 1 km.
Wow, I wasn't expecting to both be so close of eachother at the end, really stunning!
I think you shouldve sent it on the banked turns.
It can't handle the banking, trust me, I was going as high as I could: Bicycle tyres, no suspension, extremely long and narrow, the front tyres are way closer than the rear tyres, ground clearance, tyre temps... Did over 15 laps to see where I could go and where I couldn't. This is all it had.
No way in hell the dragster would be able to go 350 km/h in the banking anyway
@@THEWINDTUNNELthanks for the explanation
Next time i suggest to the dragster to use the wallride, i bet he'll win...
"Scuderia Test Dummies, that's our motto!" - The Ferrari team,most likely.
Which one is more technologically advanced in your opinion?
F1 in aero, Dragsters in Engine building and tires
Overall, the f1 car.
F1, it's just more people working and an older proper sport, there is like 800 people per f1 team just working on the car, if we count the engine manufactures and Pireli the number would go even higher. There is a reason why F1 as brought so many inovations
It's all platform based. An F1 car isn't designed for anything more than sharp turns and quick acceleration out of corners. Top Fuel cars are only designed to drop the hammer and send you to another dimension in 3.6 seconds.
F1
OMG with those bicycle wheels about to explode!!😱
That engine sound👌
Excellent video!!!
My 4 year old son always asks me what car is faster... this is a good way to show him that there are different ways of being fast
So good race. I love races between different car styles. Like truck vs gokart or this one.
why have i seen this in my dreams weeks before i even watched it
You have lovely dreams don't you?
Well this has been hell of a matchup! Yeah… doesn’t look like the Top Fuel Dragster isn’t much to handle the circuits that much compared to the F1 car, but it sure as sh!t OBLITERATES it on the straights. Other than that it’s been a fun video to watch! 👍
Now I wonder how a Top Fuel Dragster would go up against and LMP/LMH car at Le Mans? Hmm… 🤔
Top fuel dragsters are the fastest accelerating cars in the world. In fact it would destroy anything with 2 wheels in a straight line.
The acceleration is the only thing that the Top Fuel has it’s made for straightaways so that’s what they focus on
@@GlennWidick I guess that’s pretty much the purpose of a drag racing car! 😅
Thank you, glad you liked it buddy!
I'll give it a go and if it's close I'll do it a video. Will have to be without chicanes to give the dragster a better chance. Don't if it'll be enough though... Will see!!
@@THEWINDTUNNEL For sure! Anytime. 👍
let's see their perfomances in monaco)
I have a little thing for a Short in Monaco 😂
Well this is a very different route x then what I'm used to, im used to just a straight up oval
This one's a fictional version of a fuctional track, it's not even on Gran Turismo
Thats some quality content right there
Thus is actually sick
The dragster went so fast on the straight that the tyres were on fire
So who's folding the parachute after each straight?
I don’t think the top fuel dragster would make it much further than a quarter mile, without the motor exploding in a spectacular manner. They’re really only designed to run seconds at a time.
7:17 bro that rubberband tho 💀
I dont believe that the dragster would be taking any curves at over 100kmh, those skinny front tyres would not provide enough grip and would surely push wide every time the speed started ramping up in anything other than a straight line.
I mean, that's not even a corner, the F1 car could do it 4 times faster if it had the power, the fact that it had to slow down for it shows you how bad it is
sure, but i think the lateral grip provided by the dragsters front tyres would not be sufficient for such speeds. I think probably a maximum of 100kmh is more likely.
Fuel Dragster vs SRT Tomahawk X
Man driver in top fuel drager must be fearless, strong enough to withstand insane g force, and patient and tame while corner while f1 pass you long ago.
I need to know where he got this top fuel mod
i love how the top fuel does a flaming burnout whenever gas is pressed
6:12 all of that is remarkably scary
that was the single greatest comback in motorsport history
I'd like to an all type of Motorsports race again, but on this track.
The problem with the dragster is having to jump out and repack the parachute after each corner.
Yeah and it's not the slightest of the problems 😂
The topfuel dragster sounds amazing!🔥
I wanna see Top Fuel Dragster vs Top Fuel Funny Car that will be interesting
Very cool video! A similar comparison I've always heard is if a top fuel dragster was idling at the end of turn #4 at the Indy track, and an Indy car came by at its average speed of 220 mph, the dragster launches from a dead stop just as the Indy car passes, the dragster would catch and beat the Indy car to the quarter mile mark. Now THAT'S some acceleration! (~11,000 hp, ~60 gallons/mile, 0 - 300 mph ~3 seconds)😎👍
Mmm I gotta try that...
@@THEWINDTUNNEL Cool! It will be interesting to see if it really plays out like that. A really great video of speed comparison on YT is "funny car vs trophy truck". Cruz Pedregon is in his nitro funny car and another guy is in a desert trophy truck at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway dragstrip. The truck gets a "handicap", and launches first. It's astonishing to see Cruz's chase/rundown and the acceleration difference. Its filmed from several different cameras/perspectives. Fun to watch!😎👍
Can we see a unrestricted nascar cup car vs the garage 56 cup car at the Daytona road course please
That exact same video is in the works... Might need to hire you 😂
I tend to have some interesting ideas form time to time 😏
If Top Gear and all Drag Race channels joined forces.
I can't believe gran turismo still hasn't added the road course layout for special route x
It's always so goofy seeing a top fuel dragster turning lol
good stuff more
Dragster: ***shifts***
Shifts and leaves
Brilliant 😁
BRO MADE F1 LOOK SLOW
Compared to a top feul Dragster on straights it is
I made the 2 fastest cars on Earth look slow 😏
Okay so obviously realistically the Topfuel dragster would’ve blown up ages before it finished the second or third race. But since this is a video game, YOU SHOULDVE USED THE BANKS MORE (especially in the half tubes but even in the normal banked corners it could’ve made a big difference)
A Dragster can't use high bankings. (Car's width & length, bicycle front tyres, front and rear track width difference...) Used as much banking as I could.
Truly a "no shyt" moment
The drag car on Monza was hilarious
Formula 4 vs dragster at Monza?
it a little weird how the dragster doesn't go up the bankings and how the f1 broke a couple of times and didn't takes corners as tightly as possible
The Dragster can't handle the banking. I did like 15 practice laps to know exactly where I could go and where I couldn't.
Could you do a lap video on Special Route X? Using the banking and not using it to see which is faster too. There's no good video of this track on yt
Ooh that's a really good idea for the secondary channel. Definitely doing it!
Can you try Red Bull x2014 vs top fuel, im curious to see what the maximum of f1 limits can do vs top fuel
The Track was Not really fair… it is made of high Speed curves and straights, but an f1-car has its strength in tight corners and the accellererarion at the exit of them (and of course in corner Speed generally, but these were not the Limit for the f1 car. The dragster has its strength on the straights, accelleration and high Speed, Both of them happened quite often.
It's not about being fair, It's about making the most entertaining race possible. Could've used the outside ring. Would that be more fair?
THIS IS SO FUNNY JUST SEEING THE DRAGSTER GO WARP MODE ON THE STRAIGHTS OF THE SPECIAL STAGE AND JUST THE CONCEPT OF A DRAGSTER VS F1🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
AND THE DRAGSTER WON
ima give u a tip
try to remove more downforce from the f1 car
increase gears and hp
longer gears
and she'll be a good to go
You could make both a cars a lot faster and by a lot I mean 20-30 seconds as neither is designed for this track. You could remove every wing from the F1 car as well as using longer gears. You could also remove some wing from the dragster as well as removing those front bicycle tyres and most importantly, a gearbox with more than a single gear. This thing could easily reach 1000 km/h with 8 gears. The point of this video was to use the cars as they are, without changing them to see how do they stack up against each other
I have a question, i play GT7 and GT6 and there is Special Stage Route X but it has only straights. I always wanted to see behind the road walls.
This a fan-made layout using those roads
Route xx Is giving me some serious armored core vibes right about now!
Just clicked the video. Why TF is that even a question, in fact im even gonna watch this, im just mad this video/question exists
"Why tf is that even a question?" That's the reason behind 90% of my videos sir 😂
As well as braking performance with assumed paarchute, as well as fuel usage, grip etc not simulated, the other thing the video has had to assume by default is that the top fuels engine can last for longer than 8 seconds at full throttle. In reality, a top fuels engine all but destroys itself after every run - also the spark plugs get incinerated and so the engine starts dieseling, so going off throttle and coming back on likely won't work either
The answers: The Dragster makes up a 27 second deficit from pure speed on the 5km straight Obliterates the F1 car in the end
real
Im gonna be honest, TF dragsters accelerate way quicker than how it's shown in the video.
The acceleration in the drag strip was done using real-life telemetry, you can check the times and see how close it is. As for the road courses: 1 The asphalt has nowhere near the grip 2 There's lot's of rubber laid down which helps massively 3 Couldn't afford to overheat the tyres for thevrest of the lap so I had to take it easy at launch
The f1 car hesitated just a bit when overtaking the dragster. If it had passed flat out, it would've been a lot closer to winning
0:55
😂
Next time on Nümburgring
Imagine the dragster through the Carrousel
Where did you get the special stage route XX track?
I've looked for it and I think it's no longer available unfortunately. Couldn't find it anywhere :(
Having seen a dragster try to leave the track a little too quick, this sim is way more forgiving than IRL. Doesn't take much to twist the whole nose and lift inside front wheel and just push straight.
Can someone tell me the top speed of the top fuel dragster if it was top speed was limited by areo drag besides its gear ratio
I have no I idea, I will try in the future for sure, but it has to be over 1000 km/h (600 mph)
Top fuel cars are direct drive, the tires going from 36 inches tall to 50 inches tall on the high end is the "gear ratio". At 330mph they are still accelerating but much faster and the tires start to blow apart.
Theoretical if the tires kept expanding without exploding and a drag strip was an extra 1320feet long the cars would be going nearly 900mph
👍Do the same dpecial stage race vs other cars, race cars and road cars.
As a life long drag racing fan im calling bs., there is no way a fueler 8s hanging with F1.
And where did you get the mod.
Only using the 3d model, it's broken: assetto-db.com/car/top_fuel_dragster
What is the map you used at the end
Special Stage Route X
Cool
An insane fact about Drag Tires is that they only last 4 passes before they need to be replaced.
7:17 AND HERE COMES HAMILTON!!
I'm sure the dragster could use the bank and keep some higher speed. It would seem the physics engine for the game is lacking!
I think you meant $170/ gallon, $45/litre.
Real question, can funny car dragster able to flat out on Nardo ring?
Interesting... will give it a try!
5:32 why cant the dragster go through the wall
I feel like the dragster could’ve just went horizontal and not break at all to win
there were mamy times on the special stage that the dragster couldve been sent much harder
It couldn't use more banking, trust me that's all it's got
@@THEWINDTUNNEL for real?? it looks like you could damn near wall ride the track
Putting a Top Fuel dragster on a actual race track is like putting a black guy in water it doesn’t work well
A Top Fuel dragster in all honesty would not function beyond a 1/4 mile. The engine would seize. Top Fuel dragster engines literally tear themselves apart and melt themselves.
2:59 Also what helicopter can do 640 km/h? :D
Only ours 😎
Lol, what's the make?@@THEWINDTUNNEL
Top fuel dragster: Lurusan elit, menikung sulit
The stats are so wrong on the TF. They have a weight limit of 500kg, so half this and top speed of ~540km/h.
Needa re run it so the top fuel actually uses the banking😂
I can't, because of the narrow front tyres and the ground clearance. Forgot to mention
no drs for the top fuel dragster? 😉😜
It would literally take off 😂😂
I wonder if the Roman could beat the F1 car here (maybe scaled down a little so the corners were more difficult for Nevera)
You mean the Rimac Nevera? ua-cam.com/video/NG7kpeginQI/v-deo.html
This honestly wouldn't work in real life. And modern sims don't simulate drag racing cars very well. A top fuel dragster engine barely makes it a quarter mile. Which is why they only run at a 1000' now. And the current Funny car speed record is 341 mph. The fuel rate on a 23 gallon tank of nitromethane not counting the burnout. Is 4 gallons a second. I have seen a top fuel car in person and it is wild. The blower acutual covers the sound of the super charger. That I have heard make a dyno pull at a open house. I was standing outside the building. And I still had to cover my ears.
The dragster has only one gear?
Correct!
@@THEWINDTUNNEL I thought the drivers had to do some shifting too... so they only have to have reflexes and hold the car straight
Dragster is the fastest in only straight, but an F1 car is the fastest in a complete circuit
Dragster mod link?
Only using the 3d model, it's broken: assetto-db.com/car/top_fuel_dragster
@@THEWINDTUNNEL The download redirects to an unavailable RaceDepartment mod, pls help
Bono, my engine's gone
who evers driving that dragster needs to learn to stear with there feet...
wth was that LMAO kinda awkward too tbh lol
We do all shorts of crazy stuff here 😂
drag racers can actually steer?
Yeah. And there is alot of street legal drag cars
i meant top fuel dragster specifically. sure there are street legal drag cars@@THELTX427VA
They do, they have to do a lot of corrections during the runs, specifically at launch. They also have to do a 180° turn after the races to get back to the paddock
You should use RB19 instead of this 😂
Do you think it could beat it in the drag race? 🤣
Current F1s can easily hit over 350km/h...plus an F1 deploying DRS everytime is possible...a dragster deploying parachute everytime isn't
Top Fuel Dragster maximum speed 545.
On a 305m (1000 ft) strip
@@THEWINDTUNNEL Did the Draxler make turns at the speed of a car like a Lamborghini? Acceleration of the Draxler requires a lot of fuel and for such a track it needs half a ton. This point must be registered in order to artificially increase the weight of the car in the simulator. Maybe the Draxler was driving 600+, but it certainly wouldn’t be able to take turns like that could 200+. Dragsler's platform is very narrow and he is tall, which is a minus on turns. In reality, F1 turns much faster than Dragsler. With a larger difference than indicated in the test drive. The difference in the same turns on the track between F1 and Laborghini is 100 km per hour. This was tested on the track in Sochi. This is in life. The difference for Draxler should be even greater. In tests with a negative slope of 1.5 degrees, the F1 drove 270 and the Lamba 170. A regular car maxed out at 110.
f1 fanboys fighting for their lives rn😂
これぞまさしく直進番長😂
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