Thought they did a good job! This is how it is done in our area of new england !many people are opting for this ! My wife and i will be having this done, hopefully not for a while! Alot less expensive than the casket buriel and besides were both clastrophobic, lol. I thought the workers were respectful, thanks for the video!
In New England this is how it is done. I went to pay my respects to my son who was cremated and laid to rest and walked into the ground keepers digging the hole. What they do is after cremation they put the ashes inside the urn ⚱️ and there's a tripod stand already in the ground cemented in and the urn ⚱️ is laid on top of the stand and cemented in as Not to fall over from the elements
Thank you for sharing this video! My children and I are having hard time deciding what to do. I personally like going to my parents graves. If youre cremated and spread ashes, you have nothing left to visit/look at. My kids dont want me to be cremated. I think their concern is not having a place to come and sit wuth me. This video may have resolved our issue. However, now I question if I could be cremated and put between my mother and father! Then just a small plague to put on top of my grave. My parents headstone has all the childrens name on bottom. Im so happy now, I hope I can do this!!
Each cemetery has its own rules -- so you need to talk to the cemetery sexton or cemetery board. Our cemetery allows a cremation added to an existing grave and an additional stone. Cemeteries make their own rules on this. Generally speaking, cemeteries need income to pay for the upkeep -- mowing and trimming are the highest, and so a burial fee may be needed too.
When my aunt passed in 2015 she was cremated and placed with my grandparents in their graves. We then put in a new monument base that had her birth and passing dates and set the existing stone for my grandparents on top of that. I'm thinking for myself I'll either be buried with my parents will be or across from that spot where a tree used to be. Since I plan to be cremated there will be plenty of room if I ever do have a spouse since the lot couldn't accommodate two caskets.
@@47of74 You should check with the cemetery as each has rules as to how many burials can be on a grave. Our cemetery allows 2 cremations or one vault per grave.
Your soil is so rich and easy to dig. At my cemetery in Virginia, the earth is hard red clay. It is like iron in the summer. You have to use a pry bar or some other tool to gradually break it up as you go down, before it can be shoveled
At the end of the video he said it was an urn. You can tell it is as when they were filling the hole you can see the guy using the shovel to spread dirt around the urn.
Digging a grave, either whole body or cremation burial follows the same guidelines except that the urn doesn't need a burial vault (don't quote me, I'm making an observation.), anyhow either way of burial must follow guidelines applicable to state/Country.
Most cemeteries have a set of rules they follow set by their own cemetery board. The Wisconsin state guidelines are essentially one must keep records of burials and the finances must include a perpetual care fund of at least 15% of the cost of a grave. The cemetery makes rules as to vaults, green burials, urns, flowers, and other details, and cemeteries can be quite different in everything including large ranges in price for a cemetery grave. Our small non-profit cemetery has a volunteer board that sets policy as well as an annual meeting of the folks who own graves or whose ancestors are buried in the cemetery where rules can be changed by a vote of the attendees. And we do change rules as needs arise.
In our city, the cemetery people make you pay the going plot price to add the Ashes on top or even with the prior deceased one. 2 people in 1 plot costs dble! Can't sit with them as stickers cover the ground. IT ruins your shoes 👞 and the inside of your cars floor boards. They can't afford to spray for weeds, stickers etc. Shameful 😢😢😢😢😢
To avoid cemetery opening and closing of a grave charge: bring a large pot of flowers to the cemetery, dig a hole, place the urn or ashes in the hole. A bit of dirt then the flowers. A funeral director gave me that advice.
We had my sisters ashes in an urn & the cemetery in Texas where my mother is buried & I have a place by her to be buried allowed us to just dig a hole, circular like the urn, right in front of mother's stone, and put her urn down in that hole. My husband & brother dug the hole about four feet deep & just big enough around to get the urn in. Then we covered it up & put a small flat stone on top of it. There was no need to take up a whole burial place & my mother, my sister & I will all be buried together as we always wanted. My husband is going to be cremated but I'm not so I'm hoping he will have the same thing done we did for my sister. We all grew up in Texas, he didn't, but we live in Alabama but we're 75 now, time to plan. He does love our hometown in Texas though. I watched this become it was interesting to me since we did the same thing basically.
When we know in advance the size that is what we do. But most of the time nowadays, people take the ashes from the funeral home and buy their own burial container, and sometimes add a vault. The 18x18x18 opening shown in the video was about 1 inch wider than the urn and its vault. One recent burial was in a round urn shaped like a foot ball helmet with the team colors. Some are in small cardboard boxes. We want the urn deep enough so that grass will grow over the top -- at least 8 inches of soil above it.
That's how me and my sister done with our moms ashes. We didn't do all the measuring like they did. We used post hole diggers for her ashes. We went about 18 inches deep and about 9 inches square.
Generally if there are cremations, the family decides if they want two burials on one grave. If so then in the 5x10 foot graves the first cremation is put about 1/3 of the distance from the west boundary and the second 2/3. Some couples have a single urn for both of them. When it is a full burial, then only one person is allowed.
@RiverRoadRambler unless the person has a military burial in a cemetery for those who have served in the military like my dad. Then my mom was put on top of him in her casket. We joked poor man never knew a day or night without her . This was a cemetery in Racine Wi
Usually the cremains are buried to the side of the tombstone, but of course it’s up to the person digging where they want to dig, I think it’s creepy to dig on top of the actual grave.
I told my family to do whatever they wanted with me... but I do want to be cremated. I'll never know, I'll be dead. I did tell them that I did want them to play my favorite songs (left them my list) while they remember funny things about me and have a good time!! ☺️
To bad not another way to pack the urn down other then stepping on it. Just seems disrespectful. Just my thought. Ill wait for the hate. Its ok. Thick skin here. Have a wonderful day😊
as an observer of cemetery activities, yes largest cemetery in so cal, back hoes, workers , piles of dirt, many many people frequently steps all over other peoples graves, head stones, Every day, its just impossible to avoid, when there is too many people attending grave site burials.
@cessealbeach I agree. When my grandparents passed, the whole was EXACTLY the size of the liner (which was already in the ground). One was buried at 12 ft the other at 6 ft. We had just family at the graveside and even then we were stepping on markers. It was completely unavoidable.
I thought urns needed to be in a vault? I live in Illinois and I believe vaults are required for urn burials. Please respond, Thank you for the informative video.
Each cemetery establishes its own rules for cremation burials. Illinois law says "Cremated remains may be disposed of by placing them in a grave, crypt, or niche, by scattering them in a scattering area as defined in this Act, or in any manner whatever on the private property of a consenting owner." Cemeteries are the "consenting owners." Cemeteries require vaults for full burials because caskets will collapse after many years and the earth above drop down and need to be filled. The most natural burial of cremation ashes in directly in the earth in no container or spread on the ground. If one wants a big urn that may collapse, a vault is a good idea to prevent that from happening. Old cemeteries who have burials before vaults often have low spots over the graves that have to be filled to mow. Each cemetery in most states determine their own policy for cremation burials.
The family just kneels down and places the urn in the opening. It is not very deep so easy to set it down. Families like to participate in the process, some even asking to dig the opening themselves. We try to meet their preferences.
Burials are not under tombstones. The stones are at either the head or foot of the grave area (4x10 foot grave). The first cremation on a grave is buried 1/3 of the way from the west end of the grave. If a second cremation is done on the same grave it is done 2/3 of the way from the west end (in our cemetery). Tombstones mark the end of the grave and they are in a line north and south. Full burials are with the casket laid east to west, with the person's head on the west. The tradition is in Christian burials and comes from the idea that Jesus will come from the east on the second coming, and the dead rise from the grave facing east. Walking over the buried bodies is a part of how cemeteries are designed.
My nephew passed away from covid he was cremated. His wife has his ashes on a shelf in the living room beside his dog. He was also cremated. My son in. Law passed also from covid my daughter buried him in a cemetery just like that. She will put beside him one day . She placed the whole box. His best friend carried the box he said it was heavy. He was a big man. He was only 54. My nephew was 44.
I know how heavy ashes are. Held my late lady's ashes in the box they came in. Was ultimately the last time I held her. Been 3½, going 4 years since she's been gone.
both of parents were cremated but they have been buried together in their plot,,my sister was to, put her ashes in creek where she wanted some ppl want a pl to visit them
About 60% of US deaths are cremations as of this year. At our cemetery, we rarely have a full burial anymore. Often the choice is based on cost of burial. The cost of cremation is significantly lower than a full burial.
I don’t get this are you the grounds keeper or just a relative. In Australia we can not dig a hole it is done by funeral home. We don’t have the permission.
A cremação se faz necessária hoje em dia, pela falta de espaço nos cemitérios. É doloroso pensar que uma vida se esvaiu assim, em cinzas que desaparecerão. Mas precisamos nos acostumar com essa ideia. - Cremation is necessary nowadays, due to the lack of space in cemeteries. It's painful to think that a life has gone like this, into ashes that will disappear. But we need to get used to this idea.
I'm going to be cremated,and my dogs and I will be scattered together( right now I have 6 creamensof my fur babies). I still have 2 dogs alive.I'm 66 yr.young,have no one who will visit my grave so it doesn't matter.
One never knows for sure. I was thrilled to find the gravestone of my great great uncle who died at age 22, buried in a cemetery with no family and forgotten likely since 1870s when he died from Civil War injuries. We put a flower stand on his grave and plant flowers there every year. People who do family history are excited to find the grave of a long forgotten ancestor. That could happen to you
To Jeanniecosgrove9448 ,I'm with you I'm 70 and my dogs were all I had I have 5 buried on my sisters property ! They are I n caskets and in cement closures! I have only one sister left I have no other family ! I had only my dogs that past so I too will be cremated and buried with them !No one will visit me either !A world so big and all we had to love was our faithul loving dogs !At least they cared ! God Bless You!
I think that after I am gone, it would seem better to have folks walking by or over me than no one at all coming by. In a cemetery, one must walk over other graves to get to those nearby. When a burial is held, maybe 100 folks gather around a grave to say good bye, and of course they must stand on other graves. I like the idea of someone walking by and noticing my gravestone and wondering about me and my life, and if they stop and stand on me as they wonder, that would be fine. My own idea of a cemetery visit it to walk along a row of gravestones reading the inscriptions and wondering about the life of the person buried there. In a local cemetery, it is like walking though a neighborhood of friends, relatives and neighbors.
Rather than pay the expense of burial of cremated remains in a cemetery, consider finding a place which the deceased had enjoyed during life, and bury those ashes there.
Many people do that. Others like to have a location and marker. We have some graves that are 150 years old with the only reminder the person every lived, a gravestone in the cemetery. The cost of a cemetery lot at our cemetery is $350. A basic stone can be bought for about the same. Cremation burials here cost $75. The real cost is in the cremation itself, often several thousands of dollars. Personally, I like to visit the cemetery where the stone and veterans flag reminds me that great great grandpa was in the Civil War. The memorial is the focus for remembering an ancestor, friend or neighbor. And a walk through an old cemetery like ours, a walk through history and through the neighborhood.
Those are not ashes, ashes look like cigar ashes and a person can fit in a gallon ziplock bag. I worked in a cemetery office and saw a cremation in 3 stages.
Why is there no relatives watching? I would think one would make sure it's done respectfully, better still, do it yourself. These gentleman have more compassion than the deceased relatives, despite being paid. I'm maori, and we do everything ourselves, out of sight. This gives absolute closure.
The hole was dug and prepared. Then a graveside service with the family putting the urn in the grave came next. When that was all over, the hole was closed. We didn't film the family and the service out of privacy issues. We do let people dig a grave for their family, but prefer to have an experienced grave digger who cuts the sod, and replaces it as well as sprinkles a little grass seed on it and spreads the extra dirt to low spots ihe cemetery. Although most folks have a short service at graveside, some just have a few family members there and some do want to help with the hole and burial. We respect the family's wishes.
Mi querida hermana hace unos meses que fallecio y pidió que sus cenizas las echaramos al mar y eso hicimos.,!! Un saludo desde Madrid (España) y ánimo a todos.,!!
Assuming that's not in Illinois all they do around here is drill a hole 12 inches by 18inches deep that's all or the family scatters the ashes some where
You can choose a vault upon your creamation. If, husband and wife have chosen of either will go first one spouse can one be cremated first, and the second one can be buried. The cremated person can be placed inside the casket, along side the other spouse. My parents chose that way. My mother passed away first, and she was native American. She, chose to be cremated. Two years later my father died he chose burial by casket, and he wanted mom, and our fury mutts to be placed inside the casket with him. On his tomb stone he requested to be written humorously. It's a little bit noisy in here, mom is in here, along with our fury mutts, and they're barking up a storm everytime the mail man comes. Pooh bear, Daisy, Jasper, Scooby-Doo, Bob, Roxanne, Charlie, and Eddie. Sit mutts sit, now here's a treat treat. 😉 😅
My father in law passed away 2016 and was cremated. When his wife died in 2022 we placed his ashes in her coffin when she passed in 2022. He died from sepsis. She died from dementia.
Why bury someone that was cremated 98 percent of people that were cremated have there ashes spread somewhere later not buried that’s the point to avoid burial and a tombstone and all that
Some people like the idea of having a gravestone and being buried in a cemetery with other members of their family. If the cost bothers you, donate your body to medical research and your family will have your ashes returned and then you can avoid the cost of cremation, burial, stone etc. My own plan is to donate my body to research and have the ashes buried in a cemetery lot with a stone with my name on it. The cost will be the cemetery grave -- $350 at the cemetery in this video, a stone for about $400 and some cemetery costs to dig the hole -- get out of life with cemetery burial and stone for under $1000. If I didn't want the grave and stone it would be all free, and the medical research could help others.
@@dalegrays8053 People have the right to choose their burial type. If they choose a cemetery, a stone etc., then it will cost money as the cemetery has to pay for all the maintenance. The cemetery in this video pays about $2000 - 2500 per year just for the lawn mowing. The cemetery has been in existence since 1857 and many local families have 5 generations of their family in the cemetery. They want to be buried (or their ashes) near the rest of their family. The cemetery here has an all volunteer unpaid board, and contracts for someone to dig the graves, install the stones etc;, witn NO money coming to the cemetery other than the actual grave payment. If a customer wants a grave dug, they pay the digger, just like if you had hired a tree planted in your yard. If they want a stone, they buy it and have the seller install it. Those are all choices made by people with the cemetery just providing the space and the ongoing maintenance of the cemetery.
The older guy likes giving orders and breathing like he about to keel ovèr. And there is a tool more cemeteries have for pressing thr dirt down instead of standing in the whole and on the deceased.
However, the older guy is still above ground! He was teaching the younger person, his son, to take over the job. Congestive heart failure causes the heavy breathing. This video is used to explain to folks who choose to dig their own cremation opening in our cemetery how we want it done. We do normally use a dirt tamper but didn't have it along. Almost all of the folks we bury are from our local neighborhood and most of them friends, but a main goal is trying to return the cemetery lawn to normal after the burial with the sod intact and no noticeable disturbance left behind. When the family returns to visit, it should look untouched.
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The ashes are usually in an urn and often the urn is in another container (a small casket). We have found that an 18x18x18 inch hole is about right for that situation. Of course if the ashes were not in containers the opening could me much smaller. Since we often are not told what the urn or casket size is, the hole we dig is an estimate of the largest size needed. The burial urn and casket here fit well, but another one the same week was 17x16x15 and the hole was just big enough.
It seems like they could just pull the tarp over and dump all of the Earth the dirt back in the hole and just pack it down with the shovel and then put the song back on why present down with your foot I'm surprises old man can do this
The $75 charge at this cemetery includes the paperwork that must be filed, locating the exact site by precise measuring, several visits with the family, contacts with the funeral home, preparations for a grave side burial service, sometimes selling a new grave for the person, and placement of a stone that comes in later, digging the hole, watering the replaced seed and sod several times and if the grave settles, filling it in later years. When the person buys a grave, much of the money is put in a perpetual care fund where the interest earned pays for the mowing and cemetery maintenance. It seems to be a reasonable charge. A grave site costs $350, mostly for the ongoing mowing cost that is paid for in perpetuity by the interest off of that charge.
There is much more than digging the hole. The exact location has to be measured based on the cemetery records. Several visits with the family to find out there wishes, and if they want to dig the hole themselves. A few calls with the funeral home to get their information and their required paperwork. Filing the cemetery paperwork required by law and updating the records. This video was meant to show how just the grave opening and closing is done. That is done either by the family or by a contracted person. Generally there is a graveside service that has to be arranged. There is a great deal more to a burial than what is shown in the video. The cost for this is $75 at our cemetery. The cost of a grave is $350. Part of that goes into the perpetual care fund. The interest on that fund pays for keeping the cemetery mowed, maintained, plantings etc. Cemeteries like ours, are non-profits, run by volunteers and attempt to ease the burial part of death. We charge what is necessary to pay for the ongoing costs and only the grave digger, a contracted person, gets any pay from a burial. Also included in the cost is working with the gravestone maker to get it properly located and placed. The burial part of death is, at least at our cemetery, a very minor cost compared to the overall cost. People don't realize how much behind the scenes effort is involved in a cemetery burial. There are many for-profit cemeteries who charge a great deal more!
At our cemetery, the family is allowed to dig the cremation opening or they can hire it done. I put this video out to give those who dig their own guidance on how to do it themselves in a way that leaves the cemetery sod intact and doesn't make a mess. Otherwise we have had some that do leave us with a mess to re-sod and clean up. It is essentially a DIY video and has been quite useful for our cemetery.
I just love how they’re so disrespectful by stepping on peoples, graves and throwing stuff on the headstones and put stuff on him you don’t disrespect the dead
Our cemetery has designated two independent experienced grave diggers we allow to dig the graves. They are paid by the family or funeral home as part of a funeral cost. We have no cemetery employees. The grave diggers are independent contractors. Our cemetery does not charge for the digging, just the grave digger. The cemetery fee is only the cost of purchasing the grave.
These two older men looks like they have done this many times before. I thought they did a nice job. Thank you ❤
Thought they did a good job! This is how it is done in our area of new england !many people are opting for this ! My wife and i will be having this done, hopefully not for a while! Alot less expensive than the casket buriel and besides were both clastrophobic, lol. I thought the workers were respectful, thanks for the video!
In New England this is how it is done. I went to pay my respects to my son who was cremated and laid to rest and walked into the ground keepers digging the hole. What they do is after cremation they put the ashes inside the urn ⚱️ and there's a tripod stand already in the ground cemented in and the urn ⚱️ is laid on top of the stand and cemented in as Not to fall over from the elements
Thank you for sharing this video! My children and I are having hard time deciding what to do. I personally like going to my parents graves. If youre cremated and spread ashes, you have nothing left to visit/look at. My kids dont want me to be cremated. I think their concern is not having a place to come and sit wuth me. This video may have resolved our issue. However, now I question if I could be cremated and put between my mother and father! Then just a small plague to put on top of my grave. My parents headstone has all the childrens name on bottom. Im so happy now, I hope I can do this!!
Each cemetery has its own rules -- so you need to talk to the cemetery sexton or cemetery board. Our cemetery allows a cremation added to an existing grave and an additional stone. Cemeteries make their own rules on this. Generally speaking, cemeteries need income to pay for the upkeep -- mowing and trimming are the highest, and so a burial fee may be needed too.
When my aunt passed in 2015 she was cremated and placed with my grandparents in their graves. We then put in a new monument base that had her birth and passing dates and set the existing stone for my grandparents on top of that. I'm thinking for myself I'll either be buried with my parents will be or across from that spot where a tree used to be. Since I plan to be cremated there will be plenty of room if I ever do have a spouse since the lot couldn't accommodate two caskets.
@@47of74 You should check with the cemetery as each has rules as to how many burials can be on a grave. Our cemetery allows 2 cremations or one vault per grave.
Great team work enjoyed the video
Your soil is so rich and easy to dig. At my cemetery in Virginia, the earth is hard red clay. It is like iron in the summer. You have to use a pry bar or some other tool to gradually break it up as you go down, before it can be shoveled
I’m being cremated and will be buried in my church cemetery free. My sisters don’t want my urn in their homes or scatter me. I respect that.
Thank you for sharing this, very helpful, 👩🏼👍🏼
Very good video.
What did they do? Put the urn in the hole? Or pour the ashes in rhe hole? They didn't show or tell? Someone please tell me
At the end of the video he said it was an urn. You can tell it is as when they were filling the hole you can see the guy using the shovel to spread dirt around the urn.
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Urn vaults may be purchased to protect the urn from heavy cemetery equipment and some cemeteries require it.
A very good job.👍
In texas you have document where and who is buried
Digging a grave, either whole body or cremation burial follows the same guidelines except that the urn doesn't need a burial vault (don't quote me, I'm making an observation.), anyhow either way of burial must follow guidelines applicable to state/Country.
Most cemeteries have a set of rules they follow set by their own cemetery board. The Wisconsin state guidelines are essentially one must keep records of burials and the finances must include a perpetual care fund of at least 15% of the cost of a grave. The cemetery makes rules as to vaults, green burials, urns, flowers, and other details, and cemeteries can be quite different in everything including large ranges in price for a cemetery grave. Our small non-profit cemetery has a volunteer board that sets policy as well as an annual meeting of the folks who own graves or whose ancestors are buried in the cemetery where rules can be changed by a vote of the attendees. And we do change rules as needs arise.
In our city, the cemetery people make you pay the going plot price to add the Ashes on top or even with the prior deceased one. 2 people in 1 plot costs dble! Can't sit with them as stickers cover the ground. IT ruins your shoes 👞 and the inside of your cars floor boards. They can't afford to spray for weeds, stickers etc. Shameful 😢😢😢😢😢
Urns should be in a vault they say so urn won't get crushed
To avoid cemetery opening and closing of a grave charge: bring a large pot of flowers to the cemetery, dig a hole, place the urn or ashes in the hole. A bit of dirt then the flowers. A funeral director gave me that advice.
That's how me and my sister buried our mom's ashes. She passed away from cancer in 2022.
Sorry about your mother. My brothers and I did that with my mother when she passed away 10 years ago.
sorry about that
This was how my dad was buried. He requested to be cremated and buried in a particular cemetery. He has a gravestone as well.
Nice vlog
We had my sisters ashes in an urn & the cemetery in Texas where my mother is buried & I have a place by her to be buried allowed us to just dig a hole, circular like the urn, right in front of mother's stone, and put her urn down in that hole. My husband & brother dug the hole about four feet deep & just big enough around to get the urn in. Then we covered it up & put a small flat stone on top of it. There was no need to take up a whole burial place & my mother, my sister & I will all be buried together as we always wanted. My husband is going to be cremated but I'm not so I'm hoping he will have the same thing done we did for my sister. We all grew up in Texas, he didn't, but we live in Alabama but we're 75 now, time to plan. He does love our hometown in Texas though. I watched this become it was interesting to me since we did the same thing basically.
Why don’t they just dig a hole the size of the urn?
When we know in advance the size that is what we do. But most of the time nowadays, people take the ashes from the funeral home and buy their own burial container, and sometimes add a vault. The 18x18x18 opening shown in the video was about 1 inch wider than the urn and its vault. One recent burial was in a round urn shaped like a foot ball helmet with the team colors. Some are in small cardboard boxes. We want the urn deep enough so that grass will grow over the top -- at least 8 inches of soil above it.
That's how me and my sister done with our moms ashes. We didn't do all the measuring like they did. We used post hole diggers for her ashes. We went about 18 inches deep and about 9 inches square.
Different strokes for different folks.
How deep is a cremation burial????
About 2 feet or so the top of the urn is at least 6 inches under so sod will grow over it.
18 inches deep
We dig them 24" × 24" × 3ft deep at my cemetery
Can they bury someone else ashes on top of another person’s grave ?
Generally if there are cremations, the family decides if they want two burials on one grave. If so then in the 5x10 foot graves the first cremation is put about 1/3 of the distance from the west boundary and the second 2/3. Some couples have a single urn for both of them. When it is a full burial, then only one person is allowed.
@@RiverRoadRambler oh thank you so much for explaining. God bless you
I didn’t see them put the ashes in the hole? 🤔🤷♂️
@RiverRoadRambler unless the person has a military burial in a cemetery for those who have served in the military like my dad. Then my mom was put on top of him in her casket. We joked poor man never knew a day or night without her . This was a cemetery in Racine Wi
Had they maybe placed the urn in the ground that i missed ?
Yes, a 1x1 foot square metal box. No vault.
How do you put it in the ground??? By hand??@@RiverRoadRambler
@@dcsr2457 generally the family place it in the opening themselves.
In plots that already have coffins in them, how far above the coffin is the cremated remains placed ?
In Connecticut a Grave Vault for Coffin must be at least 18" under Ground.
@@TheOneAndOnlyRalph not being a smartie, is that from the top of urn or box?
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Usually the cremains are buried to the side of the tombstone, but of course it’s up to the person digging where they want to dig, I think it’s creepy to dig on top of the actual grave.
@@TheOneAndOnlyRalphactually the casket is 6ft
I told my family to do whatever they wanted with me... but I do want to be cremated. I'll never know, I'll be dead. I did tell them that I did want them to play my favorite songs (left them my list) while they remember funny things about me and have a good time!! ☺️
I told my daughter to put popcorn cernals in my casket for cremation. So i can watch from above
Do you know Jesus is a messenger of God
To bad not another way to pack the urn down other then stepping on it. Just seems disrespectful. Just my thought. Ill wait for the hate. Its ok. Thick skin here. Have a wonderful day😊
as an observer of cemetery activities, yes largest cemetery in so cal, back hoes, workers , piles of dirt, many many people frequently steps all over other peoples graves, head stones, Every day, its just impossible to avoid, when there is too many people attending grave site burials.
There is it called a hand tamper
There’s a tamper you can use gently
It is disrespectful-😢
@cessealbeach I agree. When my grandparents passed, the whole was EXACTLY the size of the liner (which was already in the ground). One was buried at 12 ft the other at 6 ft.
We had just family at the graveside and even then we were stepping on markers. It was completely unavoidable.
I thought urns needed to be in a vault? I live in Illinois and I believe vaults are required for urn burials. Please respond, Thank you for the informative video.
Each cemetery establishes its own rules for cremation burials. Illinois law says "Cremated remains may be disposed of by placing them in a grave, crypt, or niche, by scattering them in a scattering area as defined in this Act, or in any manner whatever on the private property of a consenting owner." Cemeteries are the "consenting owners."
Cemeteries require vaults for full burials because caskets will collapse after many years and the earth above drop down and need to be filled. The most natural burial of cremation ashes in directly in the earth in no container or spread on the ground.
If one wants a big urn that may collapse, a vault is a good idea to prevent that from happening.
Old cemeteries who have burials before vaults often have low spots over the graves that have to be filled to mow.
Each cemetery in most states determine their own policy for cremation burials.
How did you put the urn in the hole?? Just drop it
The family just kneels down and places the urn in the opening. It is not very deep so easy to set it down. Families like to participate in the process, some even asking to dig the opening themselves. We try to meet their preferences.
Cremains can be spread on public lands in most states.
It's not even in line with the other headstones but in the middle where visitors walk the whole thing just seems to be a little hokey to me
Burials are not under tombstones. The stones are at either the head or foot of the grave area (4x10 foot grave). The first cremation on a grave is buried 1/3 of the way from the west end of the grave. If a second cremation is done on the same grave it is done 2/3 of the way from the west end (in our cemetery). Tombstones mark the end of the grave and they are in a line north and south. Full burials are with the casket laid east to west, with the person's head on the west. The tradition is in Christian burials and comes from the idea that Jesus will come from the east on the second coming, and the dead rise from the grave facing east. Walking over the buried bodies is a part of how cemeteries are designed.
Is there no vault with a cremation burial?
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I didn't use a vault for my father's urn. I placed it right into the grave with my hands. It was covered in dirt.
@mikeklimczak9600 My cemetery wouldn't let me bury my nephew without the vault!
No there isnt
There is , it would cost one $10K, yes in So Cal plus $ opening and sealing Vault
How do you get the urn in the ground???
My nephew passed away from covid he was cremated. His wife has his ashes on a shelf in the living room beside his dog. He was also cremated. My son in. Law passed also from covid my daughter buried him in a cemetery just like that. She will put beside him one day . She placed the whole box. His best friend carried the box he said it was heavy. He was a big man. He was only 54. My nephew was 44.
I know how heavy ashes are. Held my late lady's ashes in the box they came in. Was ultimately the last time I held her. Been 3½, going 4 years since she's been gone.
@@christophermccarthy6192 what did she pass from ? You have your memories. No one can take away . Stay strong. And merry Christmas 🎅 🎄. GOD BLESS YOU
@@dianapickett3793 Complications of Comgestive Heart Failure
@@christophermccarthy6192 so sorry. My mom passed from that also. Take care of yourself .she will always be by your side no matter what.
@@dianapickett3793 thank you
Very interesting video... I'll have to remember to bury a metal ring with my Mom's urn..
Who was the person that passed away ?
Mr. Erving G. Doty
Thank you
Get a dirt Tampa that's the best tool .I used that when I worked on a golf course
both of parents were cremated but they have been buried together in their plot,,my sister was to, put her ashes in creek where she wanted some ppl want a pl to visit them
Nice soil
That part of the cemetery is virgin soil -- not every farmed or otherwise disturbed. There is about 12 inches of topsoil and then underneath sand.
Although i have my burial plot already. I don't know if I want to be buried or cremated.
About 60% of US deaths are cremations as of this year. At our cemetery, we rarely have a full burial anymore. Often the choice is based on cost of burial. The cost of cremation is significantly lower than a full burial.
I don’t get this are you the grounds keeper or just a relative. In Australia we can not dig a hole it is done by funeral home. We don’t have the permission.
In Deutschland ist auch ein Bestattungsunternehmer und Friedhofsverwaltung dafür zuständig.
It depends on the cemetery. If it is a small country cemetery the rules are more lax.
A cremação se faz necessária hoje em dia, pela falta de espaço nos cemitérios. É doloroso pensar que uma vida se esvaiu assim, em cinzas que desaparecerão. Mas precisamos nos acostumar com essa ideia. - Cremation is necessary nowadays, due to the lack of space in cemeteries. It's painful to think that a life has gone like this, into ashes that will disappear. But we need to get used to this idea.
Omg yes of course it's very heavy
They like to knick you up with various services and charges.
Some comment are very disrespect
I'm going to be cremated,and my dogs and I will be scattered together( right now I have 6 creamensof my fur babies). I still have 2 dogs alive.I'm 66 yr.young,have no one who will visit my grave so it doesn't matter.
66 is still young and who knows what the future holds
En seri no tienes a nadie que visite tu tunba ?
Beo que te gustan los perritos ?
One never knows for sure. I was thrilled to find the gravestone of my great great uncle who died at age 22, buried in a cemetery with no family and forgotten likely since 1870s when he died from Civil War injuries. We put a flower stand on his grave and plant flowers there every year. People who do family history are excited to find the grave of a long forgotten ancestor. That could happen to you
To Jeanniecosgrove9448 ,I'm with you I'm 70 and my dogs were all I had I have 5 buried on my sisters property ! They are I n caskets and in cement closures! I have only one sister left I have no other family ! I had only my dogs that past so I too will be cremated and buried with them !No one will visit me either !A world so big and all we had to love was our faithul loving dogs !At least they cared ! God Bless You!
Spelled passed wrong not past
wow in the uk that ahes hole is massive same sort of depth though
How deep is cremation 38" as I dug 3 of them,fyi
Our son passed away in May, we visit his grave often and there are footprints on his grave, makes me so angry!!
I think that after I am gone, it would seem better to have folks walking by or over me than no one at all coming by. In a cemetery, one must walk over other graves to get to those nearby. When a burial is held, maybe 100 folks gather around a grave to say good bye, and of course they must stand on other graves. I like the idea of someone walking by and noticing my gravestone and wondering about me and my life, and if they stop and stand on me as they wonder, that would be fine. My own idea of a cemetery visit it to walk along a row of gravestones reading the inscriptions and wondering about the life of the person buried there. In a local cemetery, it is like walking though a neighborhood of friends, relatives and neighbors.
sorry about that
Why not just take the tarp and dump the dirt in the hole
The tarp with damp earth was far too heavy to do that. An 18x18x18 inch hole has almost 6 cubic feet of damp earth. That weighs about 500 lbs.
All this time I thought they are doing with excavation machines.
At the graveside ceremony the urn is put in a vault and sealed.
That's how I laid my son to rest.2019
Rather than pay the expense of burial of cremated remains in a cemetery, consider finding a place which the deceased had enjoyed during life, and bury those ashes there.
Many people do that. Others like to have a location and marker. We have some graves that are 150 years old with the only reminder the person every lived, a gravestone in the cemetery. The cost of a cemetery lot at our cemetery is $350. A basic stone can be bought for about the same. Cremation burials here cost $75. The real cost is in the cremation itself, often several thousands of dollars. Personally, I like to visit the cemetery where the stone and veterans flag reminds me that great great grandpa was in the Civil War. The memorial is the focus for remembering an ancestor, friend or neighbor. And a walk through an old cemetery like ours, a walk through history and through the neighborhood.
Those are not ashes, ashes look like cigar ashes and a person can fit in a gallon ziplock bag. I worked in a cemetery office and saw a cremation in 3 stages.
That's right . When my uncle died they sent me his asĥez in a big zip lock bag in a plastic container.
I absolutely agree! I have both my mom's and my dad's ashes, they look nothing like . Did they maybe mix the ashes with dirt ?
Why is there no relatives watching? I would think one would make sure it's done respectfully, better still, do it yourself. These gentleman have more compassion than the deceased relatives, despite being paid. I'm maori, and we do everything ourselves, out of sight. This gives absolute closure.
The hole was dug and prepared. Then a graveside service with the family putting the urn in the grave came next. When that was all over, the hole was closed. We didn't film the family and the service out of privacy issues. We do let people dig a grave for their family, but prefer to have an experienced grave digger who cuts the sod, and replaces it as well as sprinkles a little grass seed on it and spreads the extra dirt to low spots ihe cemetery. Although most folks have a short service at graveside, some just have a few family members there and some do want to help with the hole and burial. We respect the family's wishes.
Insane. I could do it with a small garden shovel.
Mi querida hermana hace unos meses que fallecio y pidió que sus cenizas las echaramos al mar y eso hicimos.,!!
Un saludo desde Madrid (España) y ánimo a todos.,!!
Assuming that's not in Illinois all they do around here is drill a hole 12 inches by 18inches deep that's all or the family scatters the ashes some where
You can choose a vault upon your creamation. If, husband and wife have chosen of either will go first one spouse can one be cremated first, and the second one can be buried. The cremated person can be placed inside the casket, along side the other spouse. My parents chose that way.
My mother passed away first, and she was native American. She, chose to be cremated. Two years later my father died he chose burial by casket, and he wanted mom, and our fury mutts to be placed inside the casket with him. On his tomb stone he requested to be written humorously. It's a little bit noisy in here, mom is in here, along with our fury mutts, and they're barking up a storm everytime the mail man comes.
Pooh bear, Daisy, Jasper, Scooby-Doo, Bob, Roxanne, Charlie, and Eddie.
Sit mutts sit, now here's a treat treat. 😉 😅
My father in law passed away 2016 and was cremated. When his wife died in 2022 we placed his ashes in her coffin when she passed in 2022. He died from sepsis. She died from dementia.
Why bury someone that was cremated 98 percent of people that were cremated have there ashes spread somewhere later not buried that’s the point to avoid burial and a tombstone and all that
Some people like the idea of having a gravestone and being buried in a cemetery with other members of their family. If the cost bothers you, donate your body to medical research and your family will have your ashes returned and then you can avoid the cost of cremation, burial, stone etc. My own plan is to donate my body to research and have the ashes buried in a cemetery lot with a stone with my name on it. The cost will be the cemetery grave -- $350 at the cemetery in this video, a stone for about $400 and some cemetery costs to dig the hole -- get out of life with cemetery burial and stone for under $1000. If I didn't want the grave and stone it would be all free, and the medical research could help others.
Yeah! Anyway to make money 😢😢😢 No Respect!!!!!
@@dalegrays8053 People have the right to choose their burial type. If they choose a cemetery, a stone etc., then it will cost money as the cemetery has to pay for all the maintenance. The cemetery in this video pays about $2000 - 2500 per year just for the lawn mowing. The cemetery has been in existence since 1857 and many local families have 5 generations of their family in the cemetery. They want to be buried (or their ashes) near the rest of their family. The cemetery here has an all volunteer unpaid board, and contracts for someone to dig the graves, install the stones etc;, witn NO money coming to the cemetery other than the actual grave payment. If a customer wants a grave dug, they pay the digger, just like if you had hired a tree planted in your yard. If they want a stone, they buy it and have the seller install it. Those are all choices made by people with the cemetery just providing the space and the ongoing maintenance of the cemetery.
There are religious reasons.
@@RiverRoadRamblerthanks for that information.
I have my urns at home.😱
The older guy likes giving orders and breathing like he about to keel ovèr. And there is a tool more cemeteries have for pressing thr dirt down instead of standing in the whole and on the deceased.
However, the older guy is still above ground! He was teaching the younger person, his son, to take over the job. Congestive heart failure causes the heavy breathing.
This video is used to explain to folks who choose to dig their own cremation opening in our cemetery how we want it done. We do normally use a dirt tamper but didn't have it along. Almost all of the folks we bury are from our local neighborhood and most of them friends, but a main goal is trying to return the cemetery lawn to normal after the burial with the sod intact and no noticeable disturbance left behind. When the family returns to visit, it should look untouched.
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They weren't standing on anyone.they were just stepping on the dirt to even it.out.the burial hadn't even happened yet
That was entirely too much ash for a person
The ashes are usually in an urn and often the urn is in another container (a small casket). We have found that an 18x18x18 inch hole is about right for that situation. Of course if the ashes were not in containers the opening could me much smaller. Since we often are not told what the urn or casket size is, the hole we dig is an estimate of the largest size needed. The burial urn and casket here fit well, but another one the same week was 17x16x15 and the hole was just big enough.
It seems like they could just pull the tarp over and dump all of the Earth the dirt back in the hole and just pack it down with the shovel and then put the song back on why present down with your foot I'm surprises old man can do this
A wheelbarrow might have been useful.
I work in an auto body repair shop, they are putting my ashes in a can of bondo.😅
I’m not getting cremated just bury me next to my daddy
And they charge $600 to dig up and cover in
The $75 charge at this cemetery includes the paperwork that must be filed, locating the exact site by precise measuring, several visits with the family, contacts with the funeral home, preparations for a grave side burial service, sometimes selling a new grave for the person, and placement of a stone that comes in later, digging the hole, watering the replaced seed and sod several times and if the grave settles, filling it in later years. When the person buys a grave, much of the money is put in a perpetual care fund where the interest earned pays for the mowing and cemetery maintenance. It seems to be a reasonable charge. A grave site costs $350, mostly for the ongoing mowing cost that is paid for in perpetuity by the interest off of that charge.
Listen to him breathe cause he is using a shovel
When you are 77 and have heart disease like I do, maybe you will get out of breath a little too ;-)
My ashes will be scattered around the back pasture that isn't used.....
Depends on state laws, which are individual.
Take my ashes and go to the sea at the ocean. Feel free and swim away. Just like bird fly away and let it go.
They. Should charge 2000
My ashes will be scattered in a cow pasture.
I never Sean anyone make a project out of digging a cremation hole. L.O.L. The cemetery workers must be getting paid good, and the cemetery.
There is much more than digging the hole. The exact location has to be measured based on the cemetery records. Several visits with the family to find out there wishes, and if they want to dig the hole themselves. A few calls with the funeral home to get their information and their required paperwork. Filing the cemetery paperwork required by law and updating the records. This video was meant to show how just the grave opening and closing is done. That is done either by the family or by a contracted person. Generally there is a graveside service that has to be arranged. There is a great deal more to a burial than what is shown in the video. The cost for this is $75 at our cemetery. The cost of a grave is $350. Part of that goes into the perpetual care fund. The interest on that fund pays for keeping the cemetery mowed, maintained, plantings etc. Cemeteries like ours, are non-profits, run by volunteers and attempt to ease the burial part of death. We charge what is necessary to pay for the ongoing costs and only the grave digger, a contracted person, gets any pay from a burial.
Also included in the cost is working with the gravestone maker to get it properly located and placed. The burial part of death is, at least at our cemetery, a very minor cost compared to the overall cost. People don't realize how much behind the scenes effort is involved in a cemetery burial. There are many for-profit cemeteries who charge a great deal more!
If Chris Watts ever gets out of prison he could probably help you dig holes to bury people in. He is good at digging holes to bury people in. Lol
Who is Chris Watts I know who that is never mind
Why joke about this?it sad.
These guys need to invest in a wheelbarrow.
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Two old men digging a hole that is funny ?😂😂😂
Maybe it was some of your kinfolk!
At our cemetery, the family is allowed to dig the cremation opening or they can hire it done. I put this video out to give those who dig their own guidance on how to do it themselves in a way that leaves the cemetery sod intact and doesn't make a mess. Otherwise we have had some that do leave us with a mess to re-sod and clean up. It is essentially a DIY video and has been quite useful for our cemetery.
I just love how they’re so disrespectful by stepping on peoples, graves and throwing stuff on the headstones and put stuff on him you don’t disrespect the dead
Whatever 😂
They are buried so close you cannot help but step on other graves. I have to walk over many graves to get to one I’m visiting.
Nonsense superstition crap. It is not disrespectful. Deliberatly spitting on somebody's grave space would be disrespectful.
How do you think the grass gets mowed?
Who employs grave diggers?
Our cemetery has designated two independent experienced grave diggers we allow to dig the graves. They are paid by the family or funeral home as part of a funeral cost. We have no cemetery employees. The grave diggers are independent contractors. Our cemetery does not charge for the digging, just the grave digger. The cemetery fee is only the cost of purchasing the grave.
Hell since we need to do more recycling just dump my ashes in kitty litter box!!!!
Then they'll piss and shit allover you 😺