Charles Bukowski: The Slavery of the 9 to 5
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- In 1969, an offer came to hell.
"Quit your job, and I'll give you $100 a month for the rest of your life."
The offer came from John Martin, publisher and founder of Black Sparrow Press. Charles Bukowski - still an unknown writer - had spent his last decade at a "soul-wrenching" post office job.
He wanted out.
In a letter at the time, Bukowski wrote:
"I have one of two choices - stay in the post office and go crazy... or stay out here and play at writer and starve. I have decided to starve."
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“How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 8:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so? ”
― Charles Bukowski, Factotum
@Idk ___ I agree bro. If you live with your mom, help her around the house and tell her you lover her.
@@sadcel So fucking true, my mom and dad have the same mindset, there is no life without selling those 8 hours a day to make someone else rich, makes me angry but also so sad how that is so engraved in their heads with no chance to change it. I'll prove them wrong by the end of the year.
@@TheyWantMeGone69 Truth
@Idk ___ That's exactly how I think. you are not alone
wake up at 8:30 this is way to easy, i wake up about 5:10a.m. my turn begun at 7a.m. and it ends at 5 p.m. , monday to friday, every time i need to done something, i need to talk with my boss to leave early, then pay the hours later, work about 22/24 days per month, my income barely pass U$ 500, i am a Brazilian( so sorry if have bad english), our current coin worth about 1/5 of USA dollars here we work 6 to 7 months per year just to pay taxes, you probaly can imagine the rest, the system don't want you to think they will think for you, just follow the orders you are given, less you think about less you suffer
All this can be fixed by simply aknowledging the fact that people get their job done in 3 hours and for the other 5 hours, their life is being stolen from them and they have to pretend they're busy.
This right here, and every time I put more effort in to finish quicker or better, oh no, he's early pile more work on to him. Completely kills any semblance of respect I had for a job that never even rewards hard work.
That’s been my experience when I attempted to have a “regular” job. Also, the more efficient and proficient you are, the less respect you’ll earn.
@@daveowens lol god damn that rang too close to heart. They beat the good worker out of me. The more efficient and proactive I got the more they loaded into me.
Exactly, the Department of Labor Statistics even says that, but the main reason why the 8 hour work day is still prevalent because its too profitable for big business to cut the hours down, most people are slaves to their 9 to 5 and dont even know it
In factories we have to work at 100% all the time
It's truly a meaningless existence. Living to work and working to live.
Start a business then
@@stephenwisniewski1305 yeah, but only for the property taxes. of course, having a $250,000 to $300,000 house isn't the way to do this. Sell that shit and move to a piece of shit property with no house, take 10 grand and build a house twice the size of yours on it, pay off the bill for that in a few months, then shit out some quarters for the cheap ass middle-of-nowhere taxes you have to pay on the property every year. Like, literally shit them out. That's how cheap it is. You just gotta know where to go.
Yeah but it is not as zoomed in has you have phrased it, a hunter gather collecting food to survive and reproduce and than die is just as meaningless, for instance, in fact I cannot imagine anything you could do that would have meaning, expect of course the meaning that you give it.
dumbass edgy teenager lots of people have reasons like the afterlife
@@salnation189 10k for a house you say? because 10k will only cover a roof lol
Nothing worse than a toxic 9-5 with toxic coworkers and drama, toxic stress, power trips, getting blamed for things, no lunch breaks. JOB stands for Just. Over. Broke.
Had to snap on a coworker today, taking to me all crazy, like I was a kid. I let it slide at first, but I had time today.
@@spainwayne941 I snapped at them all then dropped my resignation after two months. Thank God I don’t need a job because I’m a military veteran still getting paid monthly. They can fuck off lol
@@directorclarkmonroe That's what's up. Fulljoy dat!
@@spainwayne941 😂😂😂
Exactly
Remember, these people don’t want you to be happy. You being happy and spending time at home or having fun to them is time you can be earning them money. The idea of you having a life outside of work may even anger them. They feel entitled to our time and think they own us all.
Seriously.
Straight facts
I agree and it's every industry
hi I'm 17 and I want to avoid this in my 20's because I want my 20's to be stress free and the best years of my life ever, I don't want to sacrifice the "best years" of my life to a stressful 9-5 job, is there a way I can avoid working so hard but yet still make money? like an online job or something?
You write "these people." Which people exactly?
I worked with a guy from Syria and I'll never forget when he told me "This is Slave Country." The amount of work necessary to afford rent, food, and a family is almost insurmountable.
@Idk ___ that’s exactly how I feel rn tbh
Socialism without mooney
We are Slaves for Economy.
He is absolutely right. I grew up in an economically developing country and many people from such countries want to move to the West and live a dream life. Yet they don’t realize that in the West they have to work their butts off.
@@Alburr250 Very few people actually work their butts off.
As I tell people - nothing kills creativity more than a regular paycheck ...
Creativity, libido, a good night's sleep, relationships, friendships etc. - yeah, those 9 to 5 jobs kill (or at least damage!) all of them (severely)!
Exactly
But starving to death isn’t really good either for creativity...
@@loussis8584 good one :)
@@loussis8584 youd be surprised how difficult it is to starve to death
you arent going to just sit down and starve
your mind will get creative in order to obtain food, be it dumpster diving or catching fish with bare hands
I work one day a week in a hospital and I tell you the people I see in there, both the patients and the people who visit them, all have been hollowed out by a job they hate. Their jobs have literally put them in the hospital. These people look colourless, gray and dead on their feet. It's terrifying and inspiring all at once
@Idk ___ I feel the same exactly. Doesnt help that i have social phobia and depression. Still i was able to wagecuck for 4 years, but from the beginning always felt this 9-5 (more in my case) was complete bs. I live with my parents and saved some money and invested, but if i ever run out of money completely i´ll simply rope.
@Idk ___ Thank you for the inspiring words. I´m rooting for you also, you dont need to wagecuck all your life in a job you hate, you will atleast find a place you find meaning or atleast figure out a way to make more money and wont have the need to work all your life. There is a balance i suppose if we just keep searching for it. Wish you all the luck
@Idk__ you sound Marxist
😂 I work at hospitals too.
@@PedroTRamos1 "i´ll simply rope." new quote that I'm acquiring...... I feel you on every level possible.
I’ve been self employed for five years. I remember the misery of having to punch that clock everyday. I love my life now.
Jason D Good for u brother.
I'm a student (19 yo) right now.have a creative mind but I can see where I am going(towards a well paying 9 to 5)
Can I talk to you somewhere (insta maybe) and discuss a few things about working as a freelancer and stuff?
I'm still there punching the clock, help me pls lol I don't know what to do
The possible downside of being self employed is nobody is forcing you to work and you might have a greater tendency to slack off. Being employed forces you to go to work each day and make enough money. Then there's healthcare and other issues like possible volatility of income. There are def Pros and cons depending on what you do.
Having finished your work and having a boss or manager make you wait and watch the clock tick until you can punch out is soul destroying. I managed to get out and be self-employed, it's great.
I used to wonder almost daily about this on my way to work. One day, I came to work and a co-worker had killed himself. Another time, a coworker died from falling asleep at the wheel on her way home, so tired from a 14 hour shift. She was a supervisor and we worked 12 hour shifts. Sups had to be there early and stay late. She was pregnant. They named the crappy walking path around the facility after her though, as if it gave meaning to the slavery.
Do you hate people?”
“I don't hate them...I just feel better when they're not around.
Me too bro
I wasted most of my life working in jobs I hated, jobs I just fell into, jobs that chose me because nobody else wanted them. I would spare you the bitterness and pain I live with now by telling you one thing:
Grab life by the balls and tell it what you're going to do
GOD bless u bro... Powerful words
Trouble there is, your balls are alive and need food or they shrivel up and die..That's what they are best at, grabbing hold of your balls...
@Seymour Asses and who made that decision? You put yourself in the situation without knowing it, partly is your fault
@@rml4289 no one asked to be born into this world so blaming them for their troubles won't help them at all.
@Dark Caesar im talkin about the people of the modern day
I was at work and I looked at the clock and noticed that I still had 3 hours left to go at that moment I realized that I was not at work but in a work jail because I could not leave without being fired.
OB TC
The beginning of genuis is being scared shitle$$
It's all true, but what are the other options then?
@@gusgrizzel8397 do your research
@@254ChuckDawg It was a rhetorical question. I'm saying...be homeless or work. Or you can be like a lot of people and sponge off of others. Or go on welfare, same thing.
@@gusgrizzel8397 It's a lot of people that don't work and still isn't homeless
A lot of people don’t realize that early Hunter gatherers only worked an average of about 15 hours a week. The slaving away constantly for a job was a phenomenon that didn’t happen until much later. There was a time when it was necessary for more complex society to function. With automation now, however, there’s no reason why people should still HAVE to work the amount of hours we work-whether you’re on the low end of 40 hrs a week, or the high end of 70+hrs a week. Unfortunately, most people in the US have been cleverly brainwashed into thinking work is a virtue in and of itself and not a means to an end. Corporations have taken advantage of that and the technology that should have freed us primarily benefits those at the very top. The reason they don’t change it is twofold. It can allow them to make more money and it keeps everyone too exhausted to fight back as they seize more and more power.
the 'Puritan Work Ethic' is actually programming that never went away. Sacrifice your life for someone else's dreams 🦄
This makes me question life.
Any answer?
Question everything the media,this video heck even my comment question it.
What I’m i here for?
I just wish the world was more peaceful. Like damn it! Humans have caused too much chaos.
Stephen D
We don’t have the answers that’s the thing.
Everyone thinks they know the truth. Politician feeding off the feeble’s minds.
All of us simply don’t know what life is and we will never solve it’s problems.
I am questioning life every single day as a 25 years old. That's why i am here watching tese videos...
The phrase "modern day slavery" is often used to describe the rigid structure and lack of autonomy in traditional 9 to 5 jobs. Many workers feel trapped in their roles and unable to pursue their passions or live fulfilling lives outside of work.
So much of our day is taken up by our jobs too and doesnt leave enough time to enjoy life. Just on the constant carousel of waking up eating shit shower and work and drive home eat sleep and repeat. It's f*cking brutal. We are all tired of it.
@@Freshadventures_ I know the whole economic system need to change and the job market also need to change. The 9 to 5 job system is from industrial age. They need to come up with a new system where people work shorter hours but get well paid. Its so sad, to see politicians waste time on bullshit issues instead of finding solution to real problems.
@@PoisonelleMisty4311 I agree.
I really hate giving the best hours of my life to a company that really doesn’t care I am a hvac technician and I never know when I’ll be home I’m just so depressed and stressed about losing all these hours of my life.. I just had a daughter and it’s just so hard for me to leave I mean I absolutely hate leaving every morning.. I just hate it I wish we weren’t a slave to society… I’m so ready just this world to go to shit so I can live in the woods and work on myself and family instead of working for someone else’s needs I just hate it
Take care of yourself
leave.
someone once told me “ if you were to stop on a pile of dog shit, would you come back again tomorrow and step on the pile of dog shit again tomorrow? “ if the answer is no.
u need to quit.. now.
@@Iightstar quit now and do what, exactly? His family still needs support and their needs don't just suspend themselves should his employment status ever change. That is terrible advice unless he were contemplating suicide or something harmful.; He needs to have a plan.
OP, I also do HVAC. Though I make very good money, you and I both know the trade forces a lot of overtime that we don't necessarily ask for or want.
Simply leaving without a plan is a recipe for more stress, and you would need time to build up a reliable clientele to work for yourself full time. You need to make a plan, write it out, and get to work on said plan.
Make your current place of work part of your exit plan. Good luck.
@@RationalMinded if "god" is real
it will guide u
if not
why care ?
I have been on a 2 workday schedule per week because of covid 19 with full pay and I am loving it, This has made me realize that working a job every day and only looking forward to the weekend is insane!
Good luck getting insurance
Looking forward to the weekend is because we work. If we had one continuous weekend that didn't end life would be more boring and you would have nothing to get up for. Retirement is overrated.
@@markstewart7002 Agreed. The key is to find work that you enjoy, that gives you purpose, and commit to it. It of course takes time and suffering to figure that out, but it's better than the alternative of doing nothing.
Lot's of suffering to figure it out. I hear that. I am still trying to figure it out.
“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society” - K
I agree with this I hate 9 to 5 my parents though and older people are always like ah your weak it’s called life there a bunch of workaholics I want to enjoy life and what I do
Both my sisters work full time, and have kids.They look tired all the time on the weekends It's all about catching up cooking, cleaning etc. I just can't bring myself to work 40 hours a week. I love the freedom of being an independent contractor!
@Eight Loco Hello, I am a Licensed Massage Therapist. Just look for positions that say 1099. The down side is you get no benefits or 401k etc. Keep that in mind you also need to think about the future.
There's another trap too. You can start your own business and become chained to it as well. Even if it's something you love doing, after while, you can work so much that the reason you liked it in the first place becomes diminished by the pressure to make a buck. We've been taught not to believe in ourselves and to not trust the universe to provide for us so we fall into jobs that feel safe, same with relationships, friendships and ways of conducting our lives. Humanity needs to get off its knees and push back against the establishment SO HARD that we force into existence the society we all need and desire. Unfortunately too many people are still deeply invested in the culture that surrounds them that the mere thought of living without all the things they THINK are making them happy terrifies them.
This is civilization. All individuals are machines that made up of building blocks of this society. And the culture is what blinds them. Outside civilization such as the nature, you have no chance to live, it is the survival of the fittest. Your choice is to become a top/rich class or politicians ( which is why they are mostly corrupted ).
true, imagine eating your favourite lunch every single day
after 2 weeks youre gonna hate it
My last day is this Friday. I'm leaving Saturday to travel the world and focus on my passions. Just do it you guys. Literally. You have nothing to lose. Don't be a Sheeple.
How is it going?
traveling ain't cheap is it?
@@kod593 lol
@@kod593 At least he did, while you are stuck in your 9-5 slavery job.
@@viqtorione what a bitter person, grow some bollox and do the same thing!
I moved from America to a 3rd world country. It's great! Cheap living, by the ocean, all the types of food you can eat, people appreciate your work, and it's safe. The problem is people think of 3rd world countries like they're all mud and flies. Many are beautiful. I live in Morocco. It's a beautiful country and I've slept the best i've ever slept knowing that everyday I wake up people appreciate what I do instead of waking up thinking todays the day i'll be laid off or let everyone down if I'm 15 minutes late. Being debt free making a little money is so much better than swimming in debt making decent money. Fuck that. Never again. Get out of the rat race. You'll never look back. I promise.
I'm coming to join u green envy soon
Wow, would like to hear your story. America is work work work work, and seems like the women only want successful men with money...maybe just some of the people I bump into, but feel like you always worried , car payments, house payments , insurance payments etc etc etc....
I am thinking about moving to Thailand in a few months once I have a little more savings. I make good money but my expenses are high and I hardly have any free time. The free time I do have I am depressed and sleeping.
@ABHAYJEET ABHAYJEET I'm not a mullah.believe whatever religion u want.i could care less
I'm "green with envy" :)
Watching this in 2021 being unemployed it's just scary. I finally had some time to myself to reconnect with who I am but now I have to find a new job. I'm just so tired of giving all my time to jobs that don't fulfill me and make me feel sad/exhausted. I feel a bit lost and scared to go back because I don't want to give up all my time to work. I found myself so miserable when I did. Idk I just wish there were more paths in life besides work 40 hours a week at jobs you hate or become homeless.
SELL EVERYTHING AND BUY A VAN-YOUR HOME IS NOW ON WHEELS !! MOST EVERY ONES DOING IT !! LIFE WILL ALWAYS COST MONEY TO LIVE-BUT THINK OF ALL THE MONEY YOU'D HAVE EACH MONTH IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR RENT AND UTILITIES-WHICH ENTITLES YOU NOT HAVING TO WORK AS MUCH
@@MrSPIRITFEATHER you literally just described homelessness
Nikki you can try self employment or some business,
Like anything you like photography,salon,a garage or some shop.
This would atleast give you happiness rather than working full time at job and not enjoying life.
I'm in Germany and you can be unemployed here and still getting an apartment and enough money to live with. Social benefits. the jobcenter might try to get you into jobs, but you can just go to the doctor again and again, so you never have to work, lol.
@Idk__ there are 2 types of people in this world.... some who keep things the same forever... and some who fight for a change
A powerful reflection given all the suicides we are seeing over the last few years.
Ryan Bronson There may be truth there, but how lazy to think there aren't other very serious contributions to this, like robots and artificial intelligence being able to out perform us, many art forms are stagnating and everything has been done, social media destroying people's ability to interact with one another, etc. We live in a time of rapid change and many abrupt ends to many things we knew (if you're older than 25 or so)
What would really suck if hell was real and all we did was work in a cubicle for eternity.
That which owns your time and money owns your life, if that's not you but an employer, you're a slave. Yes self employment is still work, but it's work that you control. Your own fate is in your own hands, outside circumstances may effect your profits but at least you don't live under the stress and constant threat of being fired and having your entire life disappear from relying on one single idiotic income which is the most dangerous thing one can do. Tradition and religion have made ppl ignore common sense and made them vulnerable to not having a bag up plan. Why would you let your entire life depend on an illusionary security that could go away at any second? Your ability to feed yourself, your children, your shelter, your rent or mortgage, your rent, your communications, your medical coverage? I'll tell you why. You saw your parents do it, they saw their parents do it, and it goes back to back. Your teachers preached it, your religious teachers preached it, your friends preached it and lived by it, it was preached by media, a lie told long and hard enough eventually becomes the truth. Charles a drunk? Yes he was, but alcohol is also a truth serum. And even if he didn't drink, I think the reality of what he observed and spoke of is more than evident before us now. Ask the bankers, politicians and industrialists who employed a plan to keep us stuck in bills is it working. They would say yes.
Over six months ago I was laid off from my 9-5 office job as part of a mass company layoff. I tried for months to get another job. No luck. Then I started focusing more on my creative self, the part of me I denied for many years. I realized that being a worker bee never gets you ahead, not really. It just keeps your head above water. Now I’m teaching guitar lessons part time and finishing writing my first book. Follow your dreams. 9-5 jobs never gave me any sense of value or self-worth. If you can, work for yourself. I still have to find a regular job, but now I know that I’m worth something and I can move forward without the worker bee fear. There is no security in the traditional workplace anymore. Do something, anything that gives your life purpose and you will be stronger. Life should not just be spent working a job you hate until retirement or death. I’m 46 and I feel like I have a second chance to get it right and stop living in regret.
And 3 years later, any updates?
How are you doing now? I hope you found what you are looking for in life and living it the way that brings you freedom.
The sad part is technology and robots is already able to replace most jobs and therefor make everything way cheaper to produce to the point that people could live mostly for free, having machines do everything for them. Sadly we are too concerned with keeping our money system and even creating more jobs just to keep the game going when it is clearly time to give it up.
codyd jenkins I also thought about that but if machines would replace the jobs how would humans make money? And we need money because if everything was for free and all humans could have a certain thing there would be total chaos and they would fight over it
@@milliekl2610 that is exactly what the leaders in the feudalism system said, didn't turn out like that. That money has been kept by those who own capital leading to the current state of the most unequal human society in history. Its the fatal flaw in capitalism, growth will mostly only benefit those who own capital, you could get rich (which is possible and great) but then you'd be just be contributing to the inequality.
@@milliekl2610 Easy answer, it's called the Universal Basic Income.
True the government wants to keep us slaves
@Homo Deus Your time by the standards of the systems economic theory is more scarce than these slave wages. Yet they've brainwashed many into believing $15 an hour is a 'good' wage. That your time which you never get back, is worth less than $10-16/hr on average. That's outright bs, if you get paid $10/hr and you just sacrificed your 20s for that. Now your 30, can they give you your 20s back? Nope, and what do you have to show for it? Absolutely nothing, as that is what $10/hr equates to nothing. You traded your time, and labor, for nothing essentially.
They hope you like the vast majority will fall for the propaganda, and brainwashing. If that isn't enough they'll gaslight you into oblivion. If that still isn't enough and the workers did strike. Governments all throughout modern capitalism have sent in the police, and even military to brutally crush striking workers...
The fact that my parents think of this as an ideal and perfect life for me is a clear proof of how much they hate my guts
i wont have children till im able to live without money, so i can teach them the way, then they'll have a choice at least
They are ignorant
Aaron's Minot but don't judge parents because parenting is a very bad deal and it many parents become parents by accident through ignorance. Most people don't understand the extreme sacrifice of creating children.
Truth is your parents probably are aging and cannot take care of you for the rest of their life so they are encouraging you to take care of yourself and maybe the best thing no for stability is a job even though there may be other options.
The best you can do instead of judging your parents why don't you get permanent birth control and enjoy the one life you have?
Because one of the most difficult and irreversible decisions a person can make is to become a parent.
A vasectomy for men is only a 15-minute procedure.
If you remain Child free for the rest of your life consider yourself very lucky.
Don't judge your parents especially now that you have been given advice to be fortunate enough to remain child-free... A lot of people don't get that advice and they create kids and they have a very difficult life being a because it is permanent and irreversible.
@@nvelopes Never bring kids in this shit hole planet.
I don’t think they actually are going out of their way to hate you lol… They’re just ignorant to how messed up the system is
Those who need less have more. When you get rid of all the excess you can be free
You still need to eat. If you have to work to eat, you're still in shackles.
Graham Wilson absolutely correct. Very wise
Chris, not so. You can be free by earning enough wealth that you no longer need to be employed. You can accomplish that without stealing anything.
I never said anything about not working. Just that WHILE you have to work to eat, you're in chains.
My point was that if you HAVE to work to eat then you have restrictions on your freedom...especially the option to not work.
Get to the point where you don't HAVE to work in order to survive and then you'll be free indeed.
Even after you reach that point, you can still work. But you won't need to work because you have to...but because you choose to.
Yes, not so. You can create wealth without stealing someone's work. And the dying part is just silly, sense that takes you out of the game.
And yes, I never said anything about not working. The creation of wealth requires work. But AFTER you've accumulated a certain amount and then put that amount to work FOR you, you yourself would never HAVE to work again for survival. Then you would be truly free in the sense that you wouldn't HAVE to be chained to a job just to keep eating.
I was objecting to the "steal somebody else's work" part. Creating wealth can come from legitimate enterprise. Hence, my objection.
Been saying for a long time that slavery is alive and well. There's no substantial difference between working for a man to pay off a debt to bank and working for a master to pay off a debt to that man. Financial slavery is real so avoid it where you can, use whatever options you have to your advantage, and escape it as soon as you can.
Plus, the tax man in your pocket for every transaction.
I’ll get out of this 9 to 5 even if that means I have to work 16 hours a day. *update: welp to everybody said it’s unrealistic I’ve stopped working 9 to 5 for awhile now. I don’t even work 16 hours a day haha. Online working has allowed me to be flexible and focus on art/animation that also makes me money. Multiple streams of income is where it’s at!*
Waynimations lol I doubt this guy is doing that he’s probably on the dole
I never worked so hard to make so little as when I had my own business. The 9 to 5 salaried job I got after I gave up the business was a breeze compared to when I was trying to make a go of it on my own. Pension, 401K, 5 weeks vacation, every other Friday off. It was easy. Retired now and have enough financial security to pretty much do what I want. Nothing wrong with a 9 to 5 if the work is fulfilling and interesting.
mattcolver1 I agree my main goal is to find meaningful and fulfilling work. Of course I’d have to work the 9 to 5 for awhile and hopefully what won’t force me to work to death.
Good Luck Brother!
Lol
In my town, I walk past homeless people and millionaires almost intermittently. I just laugh when people say “we need to all come together” without addressing the fact that we are worlds apart.
@ayy lmao we’re all eating the same cake. Some people just don’t get anywhere near the table 👁🗨
Welcome to class struggle, my friend.
It's criminal how humanity treated by the elite. Beyond evil
Controlling others is what they crave. Pure evil.
Just imagine if people didn't let fear run their lives - fear of being out of work, fear of not being able to pay the rent or feed your family, fear of feeling "useless" in society - all the fears that drive people into what amounts to slave wages. If we just, as collective people, refused to live by fear, and so refused to live by these life-draining conditions that the most powerful, wealthy and influential tiny percentage of the population manages to convince the vast majority of the rest of the population to 'put up with', then the whole edifice would come crumbling down under its own lumbering weight. The only ones propping it up are the majority of the population; they have all the power to change it, most just don’t realise this fact because of how well obscured it is by that elite strata of society through various means. Fear is the only true barrier to change.
We could then build something better on the heap of the old world - economies that respect individual human beings as human beings first and foremost, and create a system of work where individuals' genuine desire to be productive and fruitful - not for profit, not for financially enriching your boss or even yourself, but for its own self-reward and joyful value as a craft, or an art, or an invaluable contribution to collective human self-worth - this would become the basis of society, not material enrichment or market competition, as if life needs to be some kind of competition by default.
Meanwhile, the majority of the more unpleasant but undoubtedly essential tasks to the running of a complex society can, thanks to the advances in technology that the old world - in its own messed up way nonetheless helped advance (but was not necessary to their creation per se) - these technologies could automate and fulfil many of these essential processes. This is especially so if all the material, technological and intellectual resources of society were pooled into creating new solutions and replacements for menial tasks (and in integrating with the environment better), allowing all people the freedom to choose what they want to be in their lives rather than being forced to choose something they are not - the true sickness of modern society as we know it today. Rest assured, notwithstanding an extinction event (a self-made one at that!) this future version of human society as a whole can be made a reality, it simply takes enough people acting in concert to make it so.
Well, yes and no. In certain areas I agree that the profit-motive should not be a consideration (healthcare for example, where everybody should receive the best care available - period!), but in other areas I think it is a good thing to have that, it drives innovation IMHO! But it needs regulations, like lowering the working hours to say 30 hours a week (for now, until more innovation comes along and puts more people out of work - like say true self-driving cars, busses, trains, hell, maybe even aircraft!), making at least 3 months of the year holidays (so that people can truly relax) that everybody can take whenever they want to! Sadly with the politicians all bought and owned that is not going to happen! Bernie Sanders types sadly are rare gems and they almost always don't get in power!
Cute text, bro.
nothing will change in this world as long as we teach our children to be competitive than cooperative.
Nothing will change until poor and middle class stop creating new slaves for the system. It's poor and middle class has made the rich richer
As long it takes money to eat people will have to work somehow.
This 9 to 5 means you are actually spending about 11 hours away from home. 2 hours going to and from work + lunch hour. Add 2 hours of waking up and preparing to go to work. That's 13 hours dedicated to this job thing, now you are left with 11 hours for yourself, they say we must sleep for 8 hours, minus that you are now left with 3 hours. Damn.. no wonder why we have failing families. (as it was designed)
Slaves on the field were much much better than this. This is craziness.
Uh oh that's slavery, animals live better than that.
I work 16 hour shifts. My entire day(s) are work only.
@@Francisco-j1e Exactly he had me until he said that I was nodding and nodding then was like “woah…”
Totally freaking agree this system does not work for most of the people on this planet
Facts!
I just did a career change my previous early income was 15k a year terrible now im making 50k yet miserable. Money didn't bring me happiness it brought deep sadness working from 5am to 7pm 14 hrs no life. I truly believe true happiness is to live to do what you want for you not for other's time to break this modern slavery.
That's the whole day damn!
The hours don’t justify the pay
True happiness comes from doing the bare minimim of work i guess
True richness is having time to pursue your creative passions, take care of your health, practice a sport or go to the gym, spend time with loved ones and/or friends, rest, fun, learning new things, enjoying life and being truly alive. Time, not just money is also quality of life
Things I’ve done to gain freedom:
1. My partner and I share a vehicle which significantly reduces costs
2. Change jobs often, I’m not loyal to any company, I go where the money goes because my loyalty is to my family and finding freedom
3. I eat the same thing everyday so I can account for exactly how much my groceries are
4. I don’t buy any new gadgets, my old ones work just fine, however, I buy books that I read frequently to learn how to get out of the rat race
5. I don’t flush the toilet after every use unless it’s #2, this saves on sewer bills and also turn off lights everywhere I go behind me.
6. Most of the entertainment I have can be found for free; peacock tv, Pluto tv, library full of books, UA-cam. Free. There’s no need for me to pay for things I can have for free.
This among more, because of this, I have a large savings and will continue to save to pay for my house in cash because I don’t believe in banks, they keep you poor and tied to being a slave to them.
Eventually I’ll be living on my own land in the house I bought in full with no bills.
The biggest sacrifice has been my ego, upon first glance, I look poor but I’m not. Sometimes my ego is bruised because people treat me like I’m scum of the earth as if I don’t have money or something but I took my feelings out of my goals.
"I have large savings" - I hope you don't actually just put money in a bank account, because inflation eats that up! Invest it, there's pretty safe things out there (ETFs for example)
At least flush the toilet....
I hope you live the life of freedom and don't fall into the trap of what others think. Keep your peace.
@@ButterCookie1984i was like Noooooo😅 when I read that part
The unflushed toilet will from now on become the symbol of the freed man, no longer bound by the shackles of modern life. The stench waved away with dollar bills, true paradise.
I thought I was lonely. I always feel demotivated and depressed everytime I go to a job interview. 😥
I feel that 👍
@Idk ___ solution?
@Idk ___ How do you fight your hunger?
This is exactly why I quit my depressing mentally soul sucking factory job. People sucked, worked sucked, mandatory 12 hour shifts, had to work around sex offenders. Literally people would brag about how much OT they worked, like it was a competition. Not even realizing they were out slaving the next man. Sheep, if the word had to be used. I now day trade stocks, twice the money with only one-two hours per day looking at charts and numbers
I will rather starve then get ANY shitty job EVER again.
I just cant do it.
Dont have the sanity left for it.
I understand, but how do you afford a living ?
With gods help and im not kidding either.@@jkba689
Good thing I dont have a wife or kids, thats when you're trapped into a 9-5... I live my life for no one and can quit a job if I feel like it!
so you don't have a house?
What a horrible life. Not doing things to fulfill yourself, because you want the appearances of being free. But you're still not free.
@@gusgrizzel8397 he is more free than you. You shouldn't have kids if you're not wealthy. You will only bring kids into this world to suffer
@@lifeisabadjoke5750 You know nothing about me. You project your own circumstances on others.
@@gusgrizzel8397 man he is happy ! shut the fuck up with your negative bullshit
I'd rather die now than doing an NPC cycle for 50 years and becoming old and weak who can't even enjoy life
Right! This world is f'd up.
@Idk__ Exactly
At 41 I stop 9-5 , since I was a kid I was very aware of this BS .. right now I'm training my kids to be self sufficient. We need to change this lunacy. My fellow human.. be brave and own yourself.. start the culture now if you really love your children
How do I start?
@@rubiesees all the materialistic things, concentratein you and your spirituality, your deep passions, people around you, do not be obsessed about your look.
It's only when you lose everything you're free to do anything
True 😊
Well said😂
I'm so glad I'm out of the corporate rat race. The last job I had was at a world wide corporate company and there were always these team meetings and group dynamics that were annoying as hell. And of course, if you don't want to go with the flow you're the "bad guy". Never again. I may not have a steady income but I'm immensly happier.
F*** them all 😂
What are you doing now if I may ask?
9 to 5s are more than that because you must also include your sleeping hours to restore yourself for the next day. Preparation times and commuting travel. So they are 7 to 7s. 3 hours at home then 10 hours sleep. They are much more devoted hours to being where you don't want to be, doing what you probably don't enjoy what you do, and working with perhaps a fraction of people you don't relate to or particularly get along with in a difference of rapport. So, it's a dreadful way to live considering you spend the majority of life at work. The chains of slavery/ poverty must be abolished.
Most employers manipulate employees... like vampires sucking the blood of their victims, how sad it is indeed
Life is strange and our minds are even stranger:
I hate working in any workplace I work under someone other.
But I love to work on many things at my home.
People think I am lazy, but I think I just hate authority and that need to work on something others dictate
Maybe change your way of thinking
After you
Your way of thinking is good. Don't change it.
👍
Does your work from home allow you to have shelter, food and provide for your basic needs? If so then you don't need to change. If not then you are dependent on others.
what would Bukowski think about you bleeping the word 'shit'?
He wouldn't give a sh*t
“All paid jobs absorb and degrade the mind.”
-Aristotle
they never paid the slaves enough so they can get free! Just enough so they can stay alive & come back to work. 💔😢😭
Exactly. That's how they keep us all tied together as a society. You see now? The chains are not physical. The chains are mental barriers that they have programmed into all of us since the time we were young.
I hate school i hate college i hate work i hate the f**kng organised time table life.
Live below your means
Yes! This is key💡
Live on your means 🙏
@@zolanddd0007 that’s how you go broke
@@emmy4537 cap 🧢
Very wise simple words always try to spend less than you actually get that way u always have some cash in your pocket unfortunately peoples ego's don't allow them to live below there means as to many people like to show off what they have and to busy trying to out do each other.
I cant comprehend it either. My goal was always financial freedom, while others were more about getting good grades, going to college, to get a job, to work for the rest of their lives. It just doesnt make sence why one would want to work like a slave and not fully enjoy life
life is work. Work is part of life, one way or another. It always has been and always will be.
Financial freedom might be desirable for some. But humans desire worth and respect from other humans, want to have intellectual impact on the world etc.
Most people who advanced humanity (medicine, engeneering etc) went to college/University, had to master the basics in their subjects before becoming great at what they do. Financial freedom is a distant goal many people set for themselves because they are too afraid so start doing what they want already now.
Mr. CEO- I felt the same. But the fact is, a lot of people like having jobs. Because they accept it as part of life. Look at Tom Scholz of Boston. He started out as an engineer at Polaroid, found mega success as a musician, only to discover he preferred the routine of a job, so started his own company. What's more, Charles Bukowski was a life long alcoholic. He escaped the 'rat race', only to remain miserable.
THE A Z SHOW- Most people are not "brainwashed". Which is just another way of calling them stupid. Whereas a lot of them are just more accepting of the facts of life. Charles Bukowski was a life long alcoholic. He may have escaped the 'rat race', but remained miserable. At this point, I find his 'observations' of his fellow workers presumptuous.
WhoIamIsNotImportant no friend.. the meaning of life it is not to work.. it is to live...
The work is also some invent from human...... As money....
When you are thirsty and you go to look for water.. or when knowing about the need to eat.. one plants the food, take care about nature.. it can not be called work.. it is to stay alive..
But I understand you, we have born inside the fishbowl... It is hard to stay thinking in stars from here..
Feel my current job will be my last. I don’t want another one after this one
I have been an employee and an employer. Both sides are bullshit. I got a song in me and I can appreciate you mentioning about starting late in life. Finally, I am actually writing music. Never going to give it up!
Never gonna let it down, Never gonna run around and desert you...
Good luck... May u go tripple platinum and be known world wide
Ananda Mañana hello there. Good for u brother, now is the Time.
@@sajmaggie7879 may we both 🎵
Why is being a employer bullshit ?
The thing about 9 to 5 jobs is that the employer focuses on quantity rather than quality. No one actually does 8 hours of work they just stay 8 hours in workplace and they do 4-5 hours of actual work. Some meetings are unnecessary at all, and you can actually hold meetings virtually after employees go home because virtual meetings tend to be less time consuming, no chitchat, no getting off the topic, and more straight to the point. To sum up you the employer want me to get shit that will take me 3-4 hours done. I get shit done I commit to deadlines. Everybody happy. Now why on earth you want me to stay 8 hours in the workplace?? This’s pure stupidity
Yes!! Exactly how I feel. I was just talking about this the other day with a coworker.
9-5 would be liberating. I couldn't imagine. I have always had to work at least 50 hours just to get by. I work at least 60 now to try to get ahead. When i was young, i had an income goal that i thought would give me a comfortable life. Now, supporting a family of 5, i have greatly surpassed that goal, and still struggle to survive. The raises I have gotten haven't even kept up with inflation. Twenty years ago, I made half as much, and could get lunch for ten bucks. Now, the same lunch costs $25. Definitely feel like a slave.
I am an IT graduate stuck in a customer service job for 9 years. 9 years of lost opportunities.
Im sorry for your lose ... hopefully you helped somone with money you earned during these 9 years... helping others is the only thing will give us the aftermath satisfaction ..I dont have children but I try to spend as much as possible on my mom
I feel you brother.
I really Wana know how an IT graduate has been there 9 years that job market must be tough
I hate suckers at work. Always scared to speak for what they want but instead let us put our necks on the line so they can reap the reward.
live in a tiny house, work part time. or hope for universal income and robots to take over the world. i dont know why people cant organize to change the system, once men would die for there freedom.....
They are trying right now, but given they are a bunch of clueless, spoiled, disagreable Bratz, its not working pretty well. They think they can work without clear leadership. Funny if wasnt tragic.
"Slavery was never abolished, it was only extended to include all the colours" I'm going to steal that quote 😀 Thanks for sharing
They practiced on us black people first 😂 then they tried it on everyone 😂
I always wonder is life about working 9-5 and paying bills and after that we die. That’s all. Maybe I’m not only one thankfully
You won't be a slave if you learn to manage your money and stop trying to run on the treadmill of consumption. You don't need the BMW. You don't need a two story house. You don't need a luxury apartment with a 2500+ bill. Once you learn to manage, a 9 to 5 can turn into a 9 to 1.
You ain't taking my fleet of Bentley's!
I am so glad that there are people who think like me. The true beauty and gifts of life are in nature, not by being a 9 to 5 slave spending your life buying a bunch of things you don’t need. You should spend your life doing what you love
you might be an empath❤ i can get sense it . this world isn’t made for us
Jobs pay us enough to survive but not to be free. Healthcare heals us enough to not die but not have wellness. School doesn’t provide education, rather conditioning and debt enslavement. Our food doesn’t nourish us but instead just keeps us alive and sick. In order to have a place to sleep, we must own or rent overpriced property. We are being treated like cattle, given the illusion of freedom and the illusion of choice to appease the masses, provided endless stimulation to keep us distracted, given hope through one political party or social/economic system/policy over another, all the while nothing ever really gets done. If the people want change they must demand it, we can live in a beautiful world worth living in but WE must create it.
People ask others what is your purpose. My purpose is to not be apart of this capitalism cycle.
@@RandySeverino Your answer shows how well conditioned you are by society.
Work work is for people with nothing else better to do with there lives Oscar wild
Originally we were our own boss, be it hunters ,gatherers or farmers, you took break when you wanted,
rested when you wanted, sure honest hard days work occurred but you ate good, lived well took breaks when wanted.
Then we all fell for the biggest lie in human history. The system. We all became dependent on the system. Governments, banks, corporations keep us all enslaved. "You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it." -Morpheus-from the matrix movie.
THEY call us Wage Slaves 😮
I want to have a farm and be completely self sufficient and reap the benefits of what I grow directly. That would be my dream.
A farm and some solar panels would be better. Build your own crap so you wont have to be dealing with anyone's crap
I've almost read every comment and its basically 50/50 from either side of the coin .
But the thing is why wont we actually have the discussion as to what we should be working towards as a society .
We have the means to communicate with one another all over the world now .
At the end of the day , whether you choose to make money or do something you love .Love each other , relax.
I honestly wish you well in which ever endeavor you pursue.
The emphasis is about working on a job because you WANT to not because you HAVE to. Go ahead and work on a job, but do it because you are passionate about it. However don’t be so dependent on it that if you get laid off, you are devastated - which happens to many people. You have enough income streams to support you.
Working doesn’t make any sense.
This is y I have suicidal thoughts when I feel i need to get a job, just swerve into oncoming traffic and end it, I'd rather kill myself than b trapped because life isn't supposed to b like this
I quit my 9-5 and now I work part time … best decision ever
i don’t give a fuck about society’s norms
Im finally free and happy
Happy for you, man
@@ashishdevadig2835 Thank you , hope you happy too
i dont blame u i wish i could do it too but i cant got bills to pay.
many of you misunderstand this one, working from 9 to 5 doesnt make you slave, doing what you hate for life time in order to benefit employer does
Correct. Bukowski worked his ass off as a writer.
No, you misunderstand Sheeple
You can do what you love and still be a slave. Is someone telling you what to do? Do you have PTO? Can you leave when you want? Can you arrive when you want? If your answer is yes, yes, no, and no, you're a slave. And that's not even the half of it
But isn't 9 to 5 also part of the slavery? Like doesn't it get annoying and exhausting to work 5 days a week 9 to 5 and not have free time?
"find what you love and let it kill you."
Damn damn damn
Now, that's the way to live and die. Live passionately and die passionately ❤❤❤
didn’t know work was slavery. in school if i knew work was slavery i would’ve been working on something during school but now im suffering everyday no escape
Whats with this 9-5 bullshit, thats office workers, everybody else starts at 8 or earlier
I am fine with any job if you could go home early when you finish all your work for the day... but no you have to be there from 9 to 5 no matter what you do like you are in prison...
Exactly, this is the problem
We need to find a away as a humanity to break free of these invisible chains.
If you had all the money stolen from you in taxes, you'd probably be able to live within your means and over time become wealthy. At the current confiscatory tax rates, you have to live WAY below your means, and you also have to have the acumen to understand the nature of debt-based money. Our overlords understand this, and they know most people aren't that savvy. With the increases in productivity over the last 30 years, we should all be rich, but we're not, and there's a reason. Most people are simply tax-cattle.
Tax inst the problem, its the brake. However massively unbalanced tax is , you probably pay 20% the wealthy pay 0%.
My bosses steal my labor.
@@liberalbias4462 quit then.
@@darleyt1 if tax isnt the problem why are people selling something to other people and getting 20+ years in prison aka making money without working for the govt not paying taxes, while a child/woman rapist gets 5 years? Our system is fucked cause you wouldnt be able to have the rich we idolize, without the revenue generated amongst poor modern day slaves. Think about it this way, fast food is common meals for the poor cause which is a multi billion dollar organization, now do rich people eat fast food? No, they eat the little bit of organic shit we have left on this planet as the poor eat processed causing health problems which leads us to another multi billion dollar money generator known as the medicinal field. Our tax money is how the rich keep creating the ideas to keep getting richer while 90% of the population is in almost a seemingly neverending cycle of poverty.
@@darleyt1 now, that I call a smart arse 😂
Who seriously still thinks its "OK" to force a conscious being into this world/life (aka having a child)?
Everyone knows damn well this world is pure suffering but people continue to force real life consciousness into it.
I love my non existant kid so much that id never allow them into this place.
that's responsible but could also be avoidance of responsibility
BayanTheOne i somewhat agree with the "avoidance of responsibility", but anything can happen on this planet and I still would never bring a child into this world.
No matter how well off I could become.
+BayanTheOne No one has a "responsibility" to force more people into existence.
SixPack Shakur (Rep5281)
Mocha Joe understood me perfectly, you don't seem to
+BayanTheOne I understood that you're full of shit.
Thankfully since a young age I hated every job I ever had, even the ones that were sometimes cool or fun, I still wanted to be free. By thr age of 29 I became self sufficient to work for myself. It's 230am & I don't have to dread waking up at 6am to go to some shitty job tomorrow morning.
How do you leave? Especially since most of us have financial obligations. I would rather spend my days walking shelter dogs.
Here in Milwaukee a dog walking service had 2 positions , and 200 applications .
🌞 "You turn 4 and you go to school till university then you find a job and work until you’re incapable or rich which is usually not the case in reality. It’s just depressing how we’re made to just waste our time working."
Jesus Christ I've been waiting years to see people with the same mindset as me, now I'm here reading every comment in this comment section no longer feeling alone.
@TRIBULXTIONS i feel you i do exactly the same :)
Slave for work to be slave for banks.
ha... 9 to 5 is a dream to millennials. it's more like 5 to 9
Most jobs I've ever worked started between 10 pm and 3 am. Ending usually around 6 pm, and paying not even enough to show up for the jobs in the first place. Let alone survive, so yeah that would be a dream to most of us indeed.
Job: A place to go and pick up a regular check for doing something anybody can do as long as they are willing to show up consistently enough to pick up what the company has set aside for that person.
'As long as they're willing to show up'. Yeah that's kind of the point, anybody Can't do it, the merciless grind IS the job. All work is easy.... when someone else is doing the work
I want to be free from the grind..but when winter comes....
..at the end of the day, Im just another beast of the field. And priority number one is survival. With the dream on the backburner slowly cooking.
@Idk ___ exactly my thoughts though this rat race seems inescapable so either we will adapt or we will perish
I take a lot of strength from what Swami Vivekananda said "Work like a Master, Not like a Slave". The feeling of being a master (surprisingly) lies in us.
Thank you.. consciousness is everything.
I'm literally turning 19 soon and already about to be burned out :/ I usually work 9 days without a day off and I'm starting to lose interest in the things I used to love the most, such as drawing...not because they're boring me in any way, but because I feel like I've already lost my skills due to all the stress and shit. I work at the nuthouse btw.
I feel u. I've lost so much interest in things thanks to retail work. I've worked 12 days in a row without a day off. It's soul sucking people are starting to see it more. Hopefully one day things change more freedom more living. It's not normal to live like this we were not meant to live that way
It’s all our fault , we want more buildings to live in because we don’t stop having children , we want more and better cars , better phones , better computers , we keep on wanting and that is the price of it , an unstoppable demand requires unstoppable supply
I left a state job,and worked for myself for about 1year,,,,my business slowed down,now I'm back on the plantation, but I will runaway again..
😂
And you thought AMC created "The Walking Dead."
Fuck it, I'll just be homeless. If every working person took one day off at the same time....