This is amazing. Thank you for that. I “still” have a Digitakt OG and love it. With this trick it makes it even better. I just wish there would be more LFOs :)
Another vote for more in-depth techniques like this - in the 9 months I've had the DT I love it and think that actually it's just down the imagination of us users to push it to new levels - and you've just shown (with some knowledge) it's actually already capable of so much - no need for a FW update! So yeah, more please :-)
Thanks!! You're right, you can use retrigs to up the resolution for better coherence at extreme stretch/repitch values. Also, if you use 4 bar samples with a 1:4 trig lock on the first step combined with four pages you can play back 16 bars in one pattern! More coming on that topic soon..
@@SoonComeSound ahh I get what you mean now. Good idea and if you combine the scale multiplier with retrigs you could nearly play back a whole song with a single track & pattern!
WHAT? Srs, I've seen some janky and awkward timestretch hacks on this thing that have never satisfied me. This is way, way better than anything I've seen so far.
Alright I gotta comment again because I've been playing with this for an hour and this is amazing, thank you so much. The trick is so simple yet genius. It opens a new realm of possibilities on the DT, and makes it even more flexible. Doubling the "sample rate" by setting the track scale x2 and adjusting the LFO accordingly brings great results.
@@dialectricStudios I agree 100%. I've stacked up a few loops like the amen break and whatnot, it works so well. I've found the track scale setting (x2, x1/2, x1/4) to be very interesting, depending on the material. Since it doesn't change the speed of the sample but only the "definition", it can be used to create build-ups, or to mix things up on the fly if you have some param locks on the track. Definitely worth exploring!
@@dialectricStudios It's me again. I've tried the granular method using retrigs, definitely interesting on lower BPMs, but I find there's more artifacts this way. I still prefer to double the scale of the track instead, but man it drives the LED crazy. It's blinking so fast it's not even blinking, it's just white! It becomes hard to tell what's going on. It also behaves strangely when muted/unmuted, staying green or purple, adding to the confusion. We're pushing the boundaries here haha !!
Well used knowledge +skill to logically bypass technical restriction of the device. Still, I think Elektron should add time stretch as a feature in the next update. It's 2021, any sampler can have it. It can be Oktatrack algorit, as long as it works.
Thanks a lot, dude! It really inspired me to finally start using loops in my productions - as before I didn't want to bother with all the hoops jumping to make it work nicely. Looking forward to your new vids!
Wow, consider my mind blown! My brain can’t begin to work out what’s going down here but man, you’ve just opened up a tremendous can of worms. Wonderful stuff dude, cheers. You have a new sub here... Peace ✌️
Thanks I appreciate your support! It's a big can of worms and this video is just the tip of the iceberg. This is one grain.. now think about 8 working together. more on that soon :)
Don't think so, you still can't play samples chromatically on the keyboard. it does not timestretch the samples. Repitch works on the BPM, not the key.
Thank you for sharing this great technique! I love it tho im having some trouble with it - it only plays the middle part of my sample, making it sound really wonky with some samples. Do you know why it wont play the entire sample?
try changing the multiplier on the lfo page! i was having the same problem then i made the mult 8 and made the sample starting point 30 instead of 60 nd that worked for me.
cool deff gonna use this thank you .. do you think it's possible to resample using external FX ( ie using the headphone out ) if so please make a video .
First of all thank you so much for sharing and you good for you for figuring this out. I have two questions: 1) do you know if Elektron has added a time warp feature in any updates; 2) assuming answer is no, does this method only work for samples that are a certain length? For example your sample here was the length of 1:4. What if the sample I’m using is longer than that? Would the method still work or do I need to modify it. Thanks again
Nope it’s not an official feature. The method isn’t limited to certain lengths. Think of it like this - the LFO speed determines how long in seconds/bars it takes to complete its cycle. If you put a 1 bar sample in and the LFO takes 4 bars to complete, the sample will be way stretched out. Drop a 4 bar sample in the same track and it will play back pretty much normally. The samples original BPM vs the digitakts pattern BPM also determines the time stretch error. Happy jammin!
This is outstanding!. I’m still scratching my head over it… I guess the rate has to be set at 16 to make the Lfo last one pattern… but why depth at 30?
Thanks! Admittedly it's a bit cryptic what's going on, check out my newer vid for a hopefully clearer explanation. Depth actually is 60 since the new update. The LFO will go 60 above and below the current sample start position which spans the entire sample index 0-120
When I set the depth to +30 the sample does not start at 0 but at 30. Which also sort of makes sense. Do more people have that? If I set the depth to 60 it does work. Do you always have the multiplier on 16bmp? I noticed it does not work on every sample. sometimes 8 bpm works better.
You're right, thats a change made in the 1.3 update actually. It always made sense the LFO depth would be 60 but for some reason it used to be 30. As for the multiplier you're correct again, it changes based on how many bars the sample you're playing back is. Also there's a relationship between the sample's original BPM and the BPM you're playing it back at. Anyways this is a long post 😅 All will be clarified in a video coming out Saturday, plus I'll show a few new tricks too. Cheers
And now that we have two LFO's on the DT... Great stuff!
This is amazing. Thank you for that. I “still” have a Digitakt OG and love it. With this trick it makes it even better. I just wish there would be more LFOs :)
this is so insanely useful and so so simple, I'm not sure its more amazing that somebody thought of this or that nobody has thought of this before
Another vote for more in-depth techniques like this - in the 9 months I've had the DT I love it and think that actually it's just down the imagination of us users to push it to new levels - and you've just shown (with some knowledge) it's actually already capable of so much - no need for a FW update! So yeah, more please :-)
Truly great technique. You can make the resolution / locking even better if you use all 64 steps and increase the scale multiplier.
Thanks!! You're right, you can use retrigs to up the resolution for better coherence at extreme stretch/repitch values. Also, if you use 4 bar samples with a 1:4 trig lock on the first step combined with four pages you can play back 16 bars in one pattern!
More coming on that topic soon..
@@dialectricStudios this wizardry gets you another subscriber!
@@dialectricStudios btw I didn’t even mean retrigs, but that should work too, good call! I meant the track scale setting (2x)
@@SoonComeSound ahh I get what you mean now. Good idea and if you combine the scale multiplier with retrigs you could nearly play back a whole song with a single track & pattern!
@@dialectricStudios exactly... if only the DT had more storage 😭
0:47 - I was like "wait... what? you have my attention."
LFO level: EXPERT.
thanks for this.
The simplest witchcraft I’ve ever seen. Bravo!
WHAT?
Srs, I've seen some janky and awkward timestretch hacks on this thing that have never satisfied me. This is way, way better than anything I've seen so far.
You're too kind! thx
Alright I gotta comment again because I've been playing with this for an hour and this is amazing, thank you so much. The trick is so simple yet genius. It opens a new realm of possibilities on the DT, and makes it even more flexible. Doubling the "sample rate" by setting the track scale x2 and adjusting the LFO accordingly brings great results.
I'm glad you're having fun 😁 it solves my main gripe with the Digitakt and solidifies it's status (in my mind) as the best sampler ever
@@dialectricStudios I agree 100%. I've stacked up a few loops like the amen break and whatnot, it works so well. I've found the track scale setting (x2, x1/2, x1/4) to be very interesting, depending on the material. Since it doesn't change the speed of the sample but only the "definition", it can be used to create build-ups, or to mix things up on the fly if you have some param locks on the track. Definitely worth exploring!
@@dialectricStudios It's me again. I've tried the granular method using retrigs, definitely interesting on lower BPMs, but I find there's more artifacts this way. I still prefer to double the scale of the track instead, but man it drives the LED crazy. It's blinking so fast it's not even blinking, it's just white! It becomes hard to tell what's going on. It also behaves strangely when muted/unmuted, staying green or purple, adding to the confusion. We're pushing the boundaries here haha !!
Hey guys I need help. For some reason still not able to figure this out. Can someone message me?
this is the first new trick i've seen on the dt for years. nice nice!
Well used knowledge +skill to logically bypass technical restriction of the device. Still, I think Elektron should add time stretch as a feature in the next update. It's 2021, any sampler can have it. It can be Oktatrack algorit, as long as it works.
Effin brilliant. Thanks man.
Still prefer this method over the 'machine' updates that came with V1.5. Thanks for a great run through, man!
Thanks a lot, dude! It really inspired me to finally start using loops in my productions - as before I didn't want to bother with all the hoops jumping to make it work nicely. Looking forward to your new vids!
thx man :) just got 2k after basically doing nothing for 6months i should probably make another vid lol
Brilliant, you've just given my Digitakt a new lease of life!
This is amazing! Even works on Model:Samples!
Wow works like a charm finally someone truly cracked the code thank u well done
What an epic discovery. I'll be chomping at the bit to see where else you take this. Liked and subed
Wow - nice! Would love to learn more about this - so if you're planning further explorations - - I vote YEA!
was really considering upgrading to OT but now those plans are out the window!
I can finally forget about daw, thank you!!!
omg! thank you very much for this gamechanging idea!
Digitakt is the best👽
Elektron should hire you.
You should get the Nobel Prize for this trick :)
WOW that's definitely a game changer Thank you so much!!
i tried this, it works better for pitching down than up, I have an sp16, tried this on that and it works better than the auto maintainer tempo :)
O shit that’s awesome! Glad to hear it
Amazing. Many thanks for uncovering this method and divulging this information.
Curious to know how you worked this out, and also why it’s those particular settings in the LFO for speed and depth?
Wow, consider my mind blown! My brain can’t begin to work out what’s going down here but man, you’ve just opened up a tremendous can of worms. Wonderful stuff dude, cheers. You have a new sub here... Peace ✌️
Thanks I appreciate your support! It's a big can of worms and this video is just the tip of the iceberg. This is one grain.. now think about 8 working together. more on that soon :)
Super YES to this. THANKS!!!
Been needing this for some time now! Thanks for the knowledge 👊🏻
No problem brother glad you like it
@@dialectricStudios gonna test it out later on some amens! Subscribed anyway, keep em coming man 👏🏻👏🏻
So insanely useful, thanks for sharing this!!!
Pure Genius!
🙏 🙏
this is amazing
Fabulous! Thank you.👍🏽
This is really good. An actual quick and easy hack that might just be a game changer.
future digitakt owners will look back on this and wonder why on earth it ever existed
Don't think so, you still can't play samples chromatically on the keyboard. it does not timestretch the samples. Repitch works on the BPM, not the key.
Nice technique, love the creativity of limitations!
Can't wait to try this. Thanks!
This is insane! subbed!
Thank you for sharing this man! It's awesome
wow..thanks ..that is a awsome idear!!!!
Thank you so much for this, Dialectrics Digital. Very useful!!!
Genius, thanks for the knowledge \m/
That’s really clever - and I don’t even have a Digitakt (makes me want one though). Thanks 🙏
Nice one! Thanks for the Video 👌
so awesome. thank you!
basically genius really
Still waiting for part two on this one 😉
Good things come to those who wait
There is a part two?!
Nice speech!
Phenomenal stuff man
Wow brilliant! Thanks
Dude ? Thanks you so much , this is fire !
Thanks man!
Genius
Dude nicely done. You've got more of this ???
🙏❤️🙏 Thanks, your tutorial was Great!!!!
Hey Bro, This Elektron Digitakt, looks like a fun thing! I own the Maschine MK3, is this a good addition, in my setup? Or is it almost the same?
Always a good addition ;)
Very cool 😎 thanks man
A true wizard
ty very much
Wow thank you for this!
You are a genius 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Thank u. So good
Thank you very much ! 🙏🏻🖤
Great trick 👍👀
Ha, now do song mode! xD
Thanks for sharing, this is brilliant!
WOW!
magic, thanks for this.
thank u !
Thank you 🤤
Clever…Thanks!
This is soooo sick
Incredible usefull, thank you!!
needed this thanks :)
brillante 🚀
Thanks for sharing
Very clever.
Amazing, you are a great
Thank you for sharing this great technique! I love it tho im having some trouble with it - it only plays the middle part of my sample, making it sound really wonky with some samples. Do you know why it wont play the entire sample?
try changing the multiplier on the lfo page! i was having the same problem then i made the mult 8 and made the sample starting point 30 instead of 60 nd that worked for me.
Amazing.
nice thanks !
I do the shame things but when I change bpm the sample stay with the same velocity, any help? Thanks
Thanks!!!!!
cool deff gonna use this thank you .. do you think it's possible to resample using external FX ( ie using the headphone out ) if so please make a video .
cool!
Thank you 🙏
NICE. Subscribed :)
First of all thank you so much for sharing and you good for you for figuring this out. I have two questions: 1) do you know if Elektron has added a time warp feature in any updates; 2) assuming answer is no, does this method only work for samples that are a certain length? For example your sample here was the length of 1:4. What if the sample I’m using is longer than that? Would the method still work or do I need to modify it.
Thanks again
Nope it’s not an official feature. The method isn’t limited to certain lengths. Think of it like this - the LFO speed determines how long in seconds/bars it takes to complete its cycle. If you put a 1 bar sample in and the LFO takes 4 bars to complete, the sample will be way stretched out. Drop a 4 bar sample in the same track and it will play back pretty much normally. The samples original BPM vs the digitakts pattern BPM also determines the time stretch error. Happy jammin!
🙌
King
and now with a second LFO...
Didn't catch why the lfo speed is set to negative 8.0 instead of say positive 8?
WOW
This is outstanding!. I’m still scratching my head over it… I guess the rate has to be set at 16 to make the Lfo last one pattern… but why depth at 30?
Thanks! Admittedly it's a bit cryptic what's going on, check out my newer vid for a hopefully clearer explanation. Depth actually is 60 since the new update.
The LFO will go 60 above and below the current sample start position which spans the entire sample index 0-120
doing stuff with the second lfo like pitchshifting it with parameter locked lfo speeds would be fun ;P
I think ur onto something 🙄
Posted this over on r/Elektron, if you want to go see all the happy comments
Thanks for the promotion I was wondering why my views went up 🌞
It’s incredible and thank you!
When I set the depth to +30 the sample does not start at 0 but at 30. Which also sort of makes sense. Do more people have that? If I set the depth to 60 it does work. Do you always have the multiplier on 16bmp? I noticed it does not work on every sample. sometimes 8 bpm works better.
You're right, thats a change made in the 1.3 update actually. It always made sense the LFO depth would be 60 but for some reason it used to be 30. As for the multiplier you're correct again, it changes based on how many bars the sample you're playing back is. Also there's a relationship between the sample's original BPM and the BPM you're playing it back at.
Anyways this is a long post 😅 All will be clarified in a video coming out Saturday, plus I'll show a few new tricks too. Cheers
@@dialectricStudios Thanks for your replay and this video. Looking forward on the one coming this Saturday. cheers!
Let’s see more examples of time stretching and how well it handles drum breaks vs melodies vs chords vs vocals
Please O’ Great One 🙏 🧎🧎♂️🧎♀️
in the works :)
Just try it yourself. It works perfectly for everything. Almost better fidelity then the octatrack
The biggest easter egg
Sounds very old Akai-ish, doesn't it? Is this basically how those old algorithms worked?
Yup, it's the same idea as "Cyclic" time stretch mode on old Akai samplers.