This art is so good. I love how Red's drawing Aruora and Blue's holding the Veneziad. I'm excited for the release of both, and I love hearing the process behind them.
“Obviously, we all have books happening…” What a beautiful thing to be able to say :). Congratulations to all of you! Daniel! Also grew up in the DC area in the late ‘90s/early ‘00s. Can’t wait to see how you render it.
I’m just thinking about how, in a few hundred thousand years, there might be some people who look at a copy of his book, and legitimately think it’s a part of the epic soga, i.e. prints and all of those, meanwhile, Internet, archaeologist, just find the evidence like this, and start laughing their heads off.
I always go a bit insane (positive connotation) when I learn/remember my favorite youtubers know each other... like it makes sense, but breaks my brain.
Really excited about getting to read Aurora and the Veneziad! Congratulations! Also: glad to see all the colors in one place lol. You guys are fantastic as always.
It's amazing how I see some of my favorite creators all getting together and discussing their process and struggles. It helps conceptualize my own process
This pod helped me flesh out something I was stuck on how to flesh out. In a project I'm working on I have two characters who were both starting to recover from some intense depressive spirals and then got slammed into an isekai adventure, and the advice on getting out of writers block helped me flesh out the struggle one of the characters was having and how they tried to pull themself out of it
Holy fucking shit. Matt Dinniman??? My mom heard his name and went to the bookshelf and grabbed the proof for "The Shivered Sky" which, according to his acknowledgements, was his *first ever book* which she *published* as part of Silver Lake Publishing back in 2003. Holy fuck. We're so glad he's doing well, she loves that book and wanted me to read it when I grew up (I was a toddler when it got published) so hearing he got a contract was incredibly exciting.
You guys are awesome and congrats on the novel, Blue. Though do wonder why the book is primarily red, instead of blue. *Wink Wink Nudge Nudge* Joke aside, once again congrats.
There’s also that you can pull a Michael Kirkbride while he was working at Bethesda and take a shit ton of mushrooms and write all the lore for Morrowind.
I love Daniel’s advice on joining writers groups. I publish on Vocal and it’s the best decision I’ve ever made. Honestly, with the people there to give not only feedback but open armed support, my confidence and my skill has sky-rocketed
I'm so glad that you guys have done a podcast like this. I am also an upcoming author, with a book being published early next year and what you have talked about has really helped me get the motivation to keep on writing while patiently waiting for the book to come out. Hope all of your upcoming projects do well and can't wait for your next video.
i'm so looking forward to reading Red's comic when it comes out next year. i'm one of the people who need a physical thing to read comics, otherwise i cannot focus.
+++++ one thousand upvotes for the discussion on criticism. Getting feedback from trusted teachers and classmates in university was critical for me learning what effective shop talk is, but if you've never had that, the suggestion of anonymous writers' prompt groups online sounds like a brilliant way to dip your toes in the water and start collecting data.
Great to hear a shout-out for Phil Foglio - I stumbled across him from Dragon magazine back in my youth thanks to D&D and the local hole-in-the-wall game store, and decades later rediscovered him when "The Internet" had become a thing. (Yes, I am older than The Internet. 😜) It was one of those things where I stumbled across Girl Genius from some totally random path, had a moment of "hey, something about this seems somehow ... familiar ..." Phil's drawing style and story-telling had evolved tremendously, but there was still some core that was recognizable. I sometimes wonder if I'd only seen OSP videos and then decades later found Aurora if I'd have that same feeling of "this isn't that, and yet ... this ... this feels fundamentally ... Red"
I've been wanting to get into aurora but now that i know that arc 1 will be out physically ill probably wait for that. Congratulations to all 3 of you (and great job running the podcast Indigo)
29:55 i went in the complete opposite direction lol. my first project IS my passion project that means so much to me that at one point i considered it my only reason to live. (i got extremely sick for a few years, i almost died and it sucked, but i'm better now! yay!) getting out of that headspace took making something that i knew i would be making regardless, even if the entire world hated it. this is for ME, and any criticism i could get doesn't hold a shred of a candle to my (once) very real fear of dying before i get to finish it. lucky for me, i've gotten no criticism at all in the last 2 years of posting my comic online! it has it's flaws, but everyone loves it anyway and now i feel like an idiot for having taken so long to put myself out there. life is short! make art!!!!
UA-cam likes to do a funny thing where it deletes my comment if I try to tell people where to find my art. 🙄 hopefully this will work: if you Google "Space Princess Webcomic" then it should be the top result. You know you found it when you see a girl in a pink and white outfit and a green bug guy with wings. Thanks for your interest! ❤️
One tip about criticism that I picked up from Larry Niven in one of his essays is that other people are generally very good at identifying where something isn't working for them, but not great at identifying what isn't working for them, and terrible at knowing how to fix it. If someone complains about something specific in your work, it's probably worth thinking about whether they have a point (it's possible that the reason something doesn't work for them is because they're not part of the target audience, in which case you can probably ignore them), but you should absolutely make your own decisions about how to fix things. Maybe the problem isn't that you misspelled a word, but that you waited too long before using a word you wanted to mis-spell for effect? Okay, chances are that simple spelling and grammar errors are genuine errors rather than deliberate stylistic choice, but, even so... And when you get into more subtle considerations, once you understand their point, it's up to you to decide what you actually want to do about it.
I love it when my characters surprise me. I’m in for getting around two arcs into a story and my protagonist had this big issue with revealing a certain piece of information. A little part of that was plot but not entirely. the story would work just fine if he told people. I knew he had the issue, but I couldn’t figure out what it was until I got to the end of that second arc, and it all made sense. And it was shocking and really exciting because my subconscious figured out the character far before I did.
When you talk about watching episodes out of order and figuring out the context, it reminds me of my experience with Attack on Titan. When I watched through the show for the first time I accidentally skipped season three part two. And if you’ve seen it, you know that season three part two is the biggest turning point in the entire series. That’s when all the mysteries are explained. There are some really important fights. And so I enter season four completely confused, and I have the time of my life with it. I’m figuring out all the way the world is recontextualize and the character development. “ What happened to this character? And when did they lose an eye? Who the heck is Zeke?” Then I found the opening song for S3 Pt2 and I was none in the wiser. “I don’t remember this op? I must’ve missed it? Huh… wait this opening reveals information about gap in the show! Woah!” Shortly after that, it clicked. I realize I skipped a season and went back to watch it. That season and that opening song are my favorite in the series either upon their own merits or my active engagement with them. Most likely both.
The premise of the Veneziad reminds me so much of I Promessi Spossi, which makes sense considering... the entire premise of the Veneziad, but hey, still cool!
Randos CAN give actual concrit. I relish getting it on my fanfics! I hate that people seem so allergic to concrit nowadays that they consider it rude to so much as point out a typo. There's a belief nowadays that if you give any sort of feedback that could even REMOTELY be considered negative then it's rude and could conceivably scare someone away from continuing writing. But if we're not supposed to write thinking of bad faith readers, why are we expected to review for them?
Red's point of the empy space, implied story, and getting people into art by picking a random middle bit to show off is LITERALLY how I got into Star Trek and Spider-Man! I had tried before to watch Star Trek, working chronologically through TOS and TNG, but only got a couple episodes into either one. Then I heard about DS9, started watching it, and got so hooked that I watched THE ENTIRE ENTERPRISE TO VOYAGER CHRONOLOGICAL BACKLOG IN SIX MONTHS. And also got really obsessed with Vulcans to the level that I learned a bit of Golic Vulcan. Recently, I remembered watching Into The Spiderverse around the same time I started hearing about the incredible practical effects in Spider-Man 2, watched the movie, aaand oops now I'm kinda obsessed with Doc Ock and working through the bits of the Spider-Man backlog that interest me (including comics, which are very hard for me to read, so I'm expanding my comfort zone here). I'm telling you, that strategy is magic. I didn't get why people liked Star Trek until I watched DS9 and got some alien slice of life stories, which got me into the rest of Trek with the assumptions and implications of lore they drop in that show, and the time the show gives you to quietly get very attached to characters and then want to know what the history behind them is. I didn't get why people liked Spider-Man (and as a kid I especially didn't like him because I was arachnophobic) or superheroes in general until very recently, when I figured out I actually really love superhero stories when they feel very grounded in a familiar, realistic modern world (as little magic tech as you can put in, please, I want it to feel like this could plausibly be stuff that happens in the world I live in, to some degree). Now I find him quite compelling, and I can't wait to watch and read more. On the creative end of things, this video was a boon. I've been thinking about my writing and (hopefully) eventually publishing a lot lately, because structurally, I'm really struggling with the two books I'm trying to write. Which means I'm basically spinning in circles. So I've just been worldbuilding, writing little scenes I'm quite sure of, and writing other stuff (and reading A LOT) to see if that gets the juices flowing. Writing completely different short stories and fanfic is nice practice, but I hope I figure out a way to pull myself through this rut soon, because it sucks. Hearing some practical advice on writing beyond "Are you a plotter or a pantser? Figure it out :)" and ESPECIALLY hearing advice from writers with ADHD (undiagnosed at the moment but hello yes it is I, Probable ADHD McGee) is making me feel more like, "Alright, I can do this, and I've got a roadmap here." It's very nice. Also, if anyone's got advice on writing novels when you've got ADHD, PLEASE LET ME KNOW ABOUT IT. This shit is so hard and I am ass at time management
When I was in high school, my teacher would give us story prompts and we had to write the last scene before we decided to write the first one. I really didn't know what the goal was today actually know what it was. Now I read stories where everything begins in the middle, I don't know why chinese manhwa does this but I've been really into it, lately. And because of this I have started learn Mandarin Chinese. At this point I just read a lot of other people's stuff, then for the things that I have opinions for I just start writing poetry. Now if people like it when I write poetry about their stuff, I'm actually not quite sure. This is something that I do for free even though, on my profile for UA-cam it says just as much the opposite in Brazilian Portuguese.
I just realized your videos would be great to translate. Like having a different channel that's just osp Spanish or osp Indonesian. You'd just have to find a few (rookie or pro) voice actors and maybe one editor to write over the small jokes do you have in the background frames. It'd be hard to find a voice like reds but I'm imagining blues videos but with the most attractive Spanish accent there's ever been. Like way too much for a history video. And reds would all sound like her but there'd just be one that's just voiced by the best Optimus prime impressionist for funzys.
59:34 To add to Reds point, the most fun I had with some stories/musicals/whatever was watching Animatics, MAPs, Fansongs or AMVs with little to no context because my brain would make up the connective tissue in between. Especially if its Fandom A MAP set to Fandom B song the resulting stories can be so different from the originial (plus, Im not an english native speaker so I might interpret lyrics slightly differently, ESPECIALLY when I was younger and worse at the language). Just look at the Dream SMP animatics, on average those are more fun than the actual main piece of media (a bunch of different peoples Minecraft streams). I found Hamilton through a Warrior Cats MAP for Wait for It - but not knowing american history and my only point of interpretation being knowing the animated characters I thought Burr was the protagonist, Hamilton an enemy General who was Burrs begrudgingly respected arch enemy etc. This MAP is probably the reason why the song is still my favourite from the musical and why I might be more sympathetic to Burr than if I had started at the first song of the musical without animated cats fighting as visuals...
Oh how could I forget to mention the arch example, one of the first videos I kept watching on UA-cam, "Ich bin ich" which splices scenes from a Wolf-Dog movie (White Fang iirc) with a german song (about breaking free and accepting yourself). That one inspired a few of my earliest attempts at writing.
Sometimes it’s the opposite- the show being used for the AMV can sometimes lead you to find a really good band. Case in point, an OK KO Season 2 finale AMV featuring Skillet’s “The Resistance” made me a Skillet diehard and led me down a rabbit hole that I’m still not out of.
55:45 I'll do you one better: psilocybin. Idk about the legality over in the states but it got me writing while I'm not even a writer and hated writing in school.
Re: Criticism Blue touched on it a little, but it's also important to remember not everybody is going to like what you make. Even if you did everything 100% objectively perfectly, some people are just not going to mesh with it, and it's important to acknowledge and separate those inputs if what they want isn't what you were trying to achieve.
Gotta partially disagree with Red saying its not constructive criticism on the channel, cause while its not within the colloquial meaning/understanding of the phrase, it is constructive for viewers and from the sounds of it also for herself, and it is quite often criticism. (I say this as someone for whom a lot of these topics were deeply poisoned when younger, and is now learning through this channel and other places to take another look while working on my own writing, and so on multiple occasions already the commentary has also wound up indirectly fulfilling the more standard conception of constructive criticism)
Has anyone ever done a study on why so many artist seem to have ADHD , or just seem to be Nero-divergent in general; Or is that something that I’m gonna have to do?
Adhd is also just genuinely common (ish) and we are better at diagnosing it in its more subtle forms and expressions in people. That being said, i dont know if there are any official studies out there about it
Where as part of the conceit of The Lord of the Rings is that it is in universe a translation of Frodo's written account, the conceit of the Venezia is that it is the translation of an original Italian version with that original version is also coming with the book
We really need to bring back the word "fortnight" so we can say "fortnightly" and we don't have to explain biweekly. What's the point of using a word that then immediately needs to be explained? Bring back fortnightly and biweekly makes sense again! Explanation free 😊
I do improv comedy for fun and I’m a pure pantser, and every choice I make is still a choice, even if it feels like a natural choice. Characters aren’t people they are characters in your head that you are writing.
Remember when this channel was entertaining with well edited 20-30 minute pieces on literature or history instead of these boring fucking podcasts? Good times.
Remember how they still do that and uploaded a new video just a few days ago and people in the comment sections weren't douchebags about optional content? Good times.
"I out-Tolkiened Tolkien himself, that f*king amateur..."
*hubris intensifies*
Oh no his hubris!
Ahhh! His hubris!
Well, he is part Greek, so it fits.
Can you truly out-Tolkien Tolkien if you didn’t make the language yourself?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
my hubris
I like how Red is drawing Aurora pages, Daniel is (probably) holding his books, and and Blue is holding The Vensiad
Even better: she's drawing 3 pages, as she mentions during the talk.
This art is so good. I love how Red's drawing Aruora and Blue's holding the Veneziad. I'm excited for the release of both, and I love hearing the process behind them.
"Careful, that's load bearing my friend" would make an excellent shirt or mug design
30 seconds in and I am hooked on this podcast lmfao
Edit: WHOLLY SHIT DID I HEAR "BUFFY BLADE AND CYBERPUNK"?!?! I would die for this man.
Red mentioning Girl Genius has me so excited, so cool to hear creatives I respect also enjoy that comic!
I know right I sequel every time it happens.
“Obviously, we all have books happening…” What a beautiful thing to be able to say :). Congratulations to all of you!
Daniel! Also grew up in the DC area in the late ‘90s/early ‘00s. Can’t wait to see how you render it.
I’m just thinking about how, in a few hundred thousand years, there might be some people who look at a copy of his book, and legitimately think it’s a part of the epic soga, i.e. prints and all of those, meanwhile, Internet, archaeologist, just find the evidence like this, and start laughing their heads off.
Is Red doing math? During a writing podcast, even though she has made a web comic
Yeah, it looks like Aurora pages, which makes sense, because apparently she’s publishing the first arc next summer
@@VictoriaStarratt WHAT
@@VictoriaStarratt So hype
@@VictoriaStarratt like this summer or next year? (6/5/2024
@@PonyoJimon next, 2025, she says this in the podcast guys
"Being possessed by an idea you are constantly arguing with". Man, that sums it up many creative ventures rather well.
I always go a bit insane (positive connotation) when I learn/remember my favorite youtubers know each other... like it makes sense, but breaks my brain.
Really excited about getting to read Aurora and the Veneziad! Congratulations! Also: glad to see all the colors in one place lol. You guys are fantastic as always.
It's amazing how I see some of my favorite creators all getting together and discussing their process and struggles. It helps conceptualize my own process
Dude, looked at JRR Tolkien and said, “ hold my meed.”
Meanwhile, Miguel Cervantes stopped tilting at windmills.
This pod helped me flesh out something I was stuck on how to flesh out. In a project I'm working on I have two characters who were both starting to recover from some intense depressive spirals and then got slammed into an isekai adventure, and the advice on getting out of writers block helped me flesh out the struggle one of the characters was having and how they tried to pull themself out of it
Holy fucking shit. Matt Dinniman??? My mom heard his name and went to the bookshelf and grabbed the proof for "The Shivered Sky" which, according to his acknowledgements, was his *first ever book* which she *published* as part of Silver Lake Publishing back in 2003. Holy fuck. We're so glad he's doing well, she loves that book and wanted me to read it when I grew up (I was a toddler when it got published) so hearing he got a contract was incredibly exciting.
I haven't read it yet, I've been busy with school and stuff, but I definitely will I promise. 😅
...This made me finally go back to my 80.000+ words WIP. The desire to procrastinate is really hard to go against.
"I got my start tracing Ariel from the Little Mermaid".... Red, there was absolutely no need to call me out like this :)
ahh okay this is making me finally open up my manuscript and edit it. Editing is hard, man. Why can't my first draft be perfect.
I tried making my first drafts perfect.
I havent meaningfully written in YEARS because of it
You guys are awesome and congrats on the novel, Blue. Though do wonder why the book is primarily red, instead of blue. *Wink Wink Nudge Nudge* Joke aside, once again congrats.
I was the one who asked the patron question at the beginning of the QnA section, I really appreciate all your answers! Thank you so much!!
There’s also that you can pull a Michael Kirkbride while he was working at Bethesda and take a shit ton of mushrooms and write all the lore for Morrowind.
Funny that the dude giving that advice should have the name of "Greene" 🤔
But seriously, is that how the Morrowind lore happened? Lol that's amazing
@@horseenthusiast1250 as far as I know that’s how it happened. I don’t remember where I saw it but I believe it is true.
This was fun to listen to! Love the art.
I love Daniel’s advice on joining writers groups. I publish on Vocal and it’s the best decision I’ve ever made. Honestly, with the people there to give not only feedback but open armed support, my confidence and my skill has sky-rocketed
Note to self: you came back to this video for the moment at 58:03, because you needed to be reminded about this snippet of good writing advice.
Commenting so I can get the time stamp as well.
I'm so glad that you guys have done a podcast like this. I am also an upcoming author, with a book being published early next year and what you have talked about has really helped me get the motivation to keep on writing while patiently waiting for the book to come out. Hope all of your upcoming projects do well and can't wait for your next video.
i'm so looking forward to reading Red's comic when it comes out next year. i'm one of the people who need a physical thing to read comics, otherwise i cannot focus.
Man, compare this thumbnail to the ospodcast artist special, and you can see how much Red's art has improved in such a short time.
+++++ one thousand upvotes for the discussion on criticism. Getting feedback from trusted teachers and classmates in university was critical for me learning what effective shop talk is, but if you've never had that, the suggestion of anonymous writers' prompt groups online sounds like a brilliant way to dip your toes in the water and start collecting data.
Great to hear a shout-out for Phil Foglio - I stumbled across him from Dragon magazine back in my youth thanks to D&D and the local hole-in-the-wall game store, and decades later rediscovered him when "The Internet" had become a thing. (Yes, I am older than The Internet. 😜) It was one of those things where I stumbled across Girl Genius from some totally random path, had a moment of "hey, something about this seems somehow ... familiar ..." Phil's drawing style and story-telling had evolved tremendously, but there was still some core that was recognizable. I sometimes wonder if I'd only seen OSP videos and then decades later found Aurora if I'd have that same feeling of "this isn't that, and yet ... this ... this feels fundamentally ... Red"
I've been wanting to get into aurora but now that i know that arc 1 will be out physically ill probably wait for that. Congratulations to all 3 of you (and great job running the podcast Indigo)
29:55 i went in the complete opposite direction lol. my first project IS my passion project that means so much to me that at one point i considered it my only reason to live. (i got extremely sick for a few years, i almost died and it sucked, but i'm better now! yay!) getting out of that headspace took making something that i knew i would be making regardless, even if the entire world hated it. this is for ME, and any criticism i could get doesn't hold a shred of a candle to my (once) very real fear of dying before i get to finish it. lucky for me, i've gotten no criticism at all in the last 2 years of posting my comic online! it has it's flaws, but everyone loves it anyway and now i feel like an idiot for having taken so long to put myself out there. life is short! make art!!!!
What's it called?
Waiting for the comic name to be as well 👀
UA-cam likes to do a funny thing where it deletes my comment if I try to tell people where to find my art. 🙄 hopefully this will work: if you Google "Space Princess Webcomic" then it should be the top result. You know you found it when you see a girl in a pink and white outfit and a green bug guy with wings. Thanks for your interest! ❤️
Red should make a book with all the arr in their Trope Talk series.
One tip about criticism that I picked up from Larry Niven in one of his essays is that other people are generally very good at identifying where something isn't working for them, but not great at identifying what isn't working for them, and terrible at knowing how to fix it. If someone complains about something specific in your work, it's probably worth thinking about whether they have a point (it's possible that the reason something doesn't work for them is because they're not part of the target audience, in which case you can probably ignore them), but you should absolutely make your own decisions about how to fix things.
Maybe the problem isn't that you misspelled a word, but that you waited too long before using a word you wanted to mis-spell for effect? Okay, chances are that simple spelling and grammar errors are genuine errors rather than deliberate stylistic choice, but, even so... And when you get into more subtle considerations, once you understand their point, it's up to you to decide what you actually want to do about it.
I actually just started reading Aurora today. Really enjoying it so far!
I love it when my characters surprise me. I’m in for getting around two arcs into a story and my protagonist had this big issue with revealing a certain piece of information. A little part of that was plot but not entirely. the story would work just fine if he told people. I knew he had the issue, but I couldn’t figure out what it was until I got to the end of that second arc, and it all made sense. And it was shocking and really exciting because my subconscious figured out the character far before I did.
Man, as someone who just finished writing the first draft of a book that I want to publish someday, having this drop is awesome.
It took me hearing Daniel Green talk about Mary Jane the second time to recognize him from Rustage’s Isekai DnD XD
the stuff about serisal publsihing like in webcomics also work in fanfic. (i know expreince) its so fun to hear this kind of chat i love it
The Tough Guide to Fantasyland is one of my favorites. I still have my copy.
I am subscribed, got the bell and I only learned now after so many years that they have some podcast episodes what
AND I'VE MISSED OUT ON LIKE 100 EPISODES GODS DAMNIT
When you talk about watching episodes out of order and figuring out the context, it reminds me of my experience with Attack on Titan. When I watched through the show for the first time I accidentally skipped season three part two. And if you’ve seen it, you know that season three part two is the biggest turning point in the entire series. That’s when all the mysteries are explained. There are some really important fights. And so I enter season four completely confused, and I have the time of my life with it. I’m figuring out all the way the world is recontextualize and the character development. “ What happened to this character? And when did they lose an eye? Who the heck is Zeke?” Then I found the opening song for S3 Pt2 and I was none in the wiser. “I don’t remember this op? I must’ve missed it? Huh… wait this opening reveals information about gap in the show! Woah!” Shortly after that, it clicked. I realize I skipped a season and went back to watch it. That season and that opening song are my favorite in the series either upon their own merits or my active engagement with them. Most likely both.
Great start
The premise of the Veneziad reminds me so much of I Promessi Spossi, which makes sense considering... the entire premise of the Veneziad, but hey, still cool!
Love your podcast ❤❤❤❤
I love that they invited Daniel GREENE
im so behind in ospod when i finshed one a new one comes GOD DAMN IT
“I was watching Buffy, Blade, and playing Cyberpunk and went like ‘What if we mixed em’?!’” Lmao
Oh no, I have to go work on my book now /s
Randos CAN give actual concrit. I relish getting it on my fanfics! I hate that people seem so allergic to concrit nowadays that they consider it rude to so much as point out a typo. There's a belief nowadays that if you give any sort of feedback that could even REMOTELY be considered negative then it's rude and could conceivably scare someone away from continuing writing. But if we're not supposed to write thinking of bad faith readers, why are we expected to review for them?
I'm a hobby writer and this podcast episode is speaking to me lol
obviously the cyberpunk version should be translated to/from binary
Red's point of the empy space, implied story, and getting people into art by picking a random middle bit to show off is LITERALLY how I got into Star Trek and Spider-Man! I had tried before to watch Star Trek, working chronologically through TOS and TNG, but only got a couple episodes into either one. Then I heard about DS9, started watching it, and got so hooked that I watched THE ENTIRE ENTERPRISE TO VOYAGER CHRONOLOGICAL BACKLOG IN SIX MONTHS. And also got really obsessed with Vulcans to the level that I learned a bit of Golic Vulcan. Recently, I remembered watching Into The Spiderverse around the same time I started hearing about the incredible practical effects in Spider-Man 2, watched the movie, aaand oops now I'm kinda obsessed with Doc Ock and working through the bits of the Spider-Man backlog that interest me (including comics, which are very hard for me to read, so I'm expanding my comfort zone here). I'm telling you, that strategy is magic. I didn't get why people liked Star Trek until I watched DS9 and got some alien slice of life stories, which got me into the rest of Trek with the assumptions and implications of lore they drop in that show, and the time the show gives you to quietly get very attached to characters and then want to know what the history behind them is. I didn't get why people liked Spider-Man (and as a kid I especially didn't like him because I was arachnophobic) or superheroes in general until very recently, when I figured out I actually really love superhero stories when they feel very grounded in a familiar, realistic modern world (as little magic tech as you can put in, please, I want it to feel like this could plausibly be stuff that happens in the world I live in, to some degree). Now I find him quite compelling, and I can't wait to watch and read more.
On the creative end of things, this video was a boon. I've been thinking about my writing and (hopefully) eventually publishing a lot lately, because structurally, I'm really struggling with the two books I'm trying to write. Which means I'm basically spinning in circles. So I've just been worldbuilding, writing little scenes I'm quite sure of, and writing other stuff (and reading A LOT) to see if that gets the juices flowing. Writing completely different short stories and fanfic is nice practice, but I hope I figure out a way to pull myself through this rut soon, because it sucks. Hearing some practical advice on writing beyond "Are you a plotter or a pantser? Figure it out :)" and ESPECIALLY hearing advice from writers with ADHD (undiagnosed at the moment but hello yes it is I, Probable ADHD McGee) is making me feel more like, "Alright, I can do this, and I've got a roadmap here." It's very nice.
Also, if anyone's got advice on writing novels when you've got ADHD, PLEASE LET ME KNOW ABOUT IT. This shit is so hard and I am ass at time management
The drawing of Indigo really looks like Toph to me, I thinks it's mostly the eyes.
When I was in high school, my teacher would give us story prompts and we had to write the last scene before we decided to write the first one. I really didn't know what the goal was today actually know what it was. Now I read stories where everything begins in the middle, I don't know why chinese manhwa does this but I've been really into it, lately. And because of this I have started learn Mandarin Chinese. At this point I just read a lot of other people's stuff, then for the things that I have opinions for I just start writing poetry. Now if people like it when I write poetry about their stuff, I'm actually not quite sure. This is something that I do for free even though, on my profile for UA-cam it says just as much the opposite in Brazilian Portuguese.
Wait how dare you not make daniel greenes eyes green?!
Poor Joe Random being thrown under the hypothetical bus. Also, that is so Trad.
I’m reading aurora now it’s pretty good!!!! (Also buy blues book )
they disappear oh no!
I just realized your videos would be great to translate. Like having a different channel that's just osp Spanish or osp Indonesian. You'd just have to find a few (rookie or pro) voice actors and maybe one editor to write over the small jokes do you have in the background frames. It'd be hard to find a voice like reds but I'm imagining blues videos but with the most attractive Spanish accent there's ever been. Like way too much for a history video. And reds would all sound like her but there'd just be one that's just voiced by the best Optimus prime impressionist for funzys.
59:34 To add to Reds point, the most fun I had with some stories/musicals/whatever was watching Animatics, MAPs, Fansongs or AMVs with little to no context because my brain would make up the connective tissue in between. Especially if its Fandom A MAP set to Fandom B song the resulting stories can be so different from the originial (plus, Im not an english native speaker so I might interpret lyrics slightly differently, ESPECIALLY when I was younger and worse at the language). Just look at the Dream SMP animatics, on average those are more fun than the actual main piece of media (a bunch of different peoples Minecraft streams). I found Hamilton through a Warrior Cats MAP for Wait for It - but not knowing american history and my only point of interpretation being knowing the animated characters I thought Burr was the protagonist, Hamilton an enemy General who was Burrs begrudgingly respected arch enemy etc. This MAP is probably the reason why the song is still my favourite from the musical and why I might be more sympathetic to Burr than if I had started at the first song of the musical without animated cats fighting as visuals...
Oh how could I forget to mention the arch example, one of the first videos I kept watching on UA-cam, "Ich bin ich" which splices scenes from a Wolf-Dog movie (White Fang iirc) with a german song (about breaking free and accepting yourself). That one inspired a few of my earliest attempts at writing.
Sometimes it’s the opposite- the show being used for the AMV can sometimes lead you to find a really good band. Case in point, an OK KO Season 2 finale AMV featuring Skillet’s “The Resistance” made me a Skillet diehard and led me down a rabbit hole that I’m still not out of.
55:45 I'll do you one better: psilocybin. Idk about the legality over in the states but it got me writing while I'm not even a writer and hated writing in school.
Red senpai please can we have the BACCHAE
How does Daniel Greene have blueish purpleish eyes and not Green? Are we not all color coordinated?
Re: Criticism
Blue touched on it a little, but it's also important to remember not everybody is going to like what you make. Even if you did everything 100% objectively perfectly, some people are just not going to mesh with it, and it's important to acknowledge and separate those inputs if what they want isn't what you were trying to achieve.
I have to ask. Is Greene Green?
What's the name of the publisher?
Actually, could we get a list of traditional publishers?
I've been wanting to test the waters myself.
Call the local library, get the reference desk, ask them.
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Wait... Is that anecdote about The West Wing true?! LOL
Dan: oh, sorry about the swearing 😅
meanwhile, Red in like every stream: fucking Reboot season 4
This video couldn’t have come at a better time! Marijuana for the win!
German?
Gotta partially disagree with Red saying its not constructive criticism on the channel, cause while its not within the colloquial meaning/understanding of the phrase, it is constructive for viewers and from the sounds of it also for herself, and it is quite often criticism. (I say this as someone for whom a lot of these topics were deeply poisoned when younger, and is now learning through this channel and other places to take another look while working on my own writing, and so on multiple occasions already the commentary has also wound up indirectly fulfilling the more standard conception of constructive criticism)
Has anyone ever done a study on why so many artist seem to have ADHD , or just seem to be Nero-divergent in general; Or is that something that I’m gonna have to do?
Adhd is also just genuinely common (ish) and we are better at diagnosing it in its more subtle forms and expressions in people.
That being said, i dont know if there are any official studies out there about it
I (a non professional rando on the internet) believe due to not fitting in they spend more time alone which can spark creativity and then writing
How does Blue out-Tolkien Tolkien? Sorry, I need a bit of context, I’m a noob.
Where as part of the conceit of The Lord of the Rings is that it is in universe a translation of Frodo's written account, the conceit of the Venezia is that it is the translation of an original Italian version with that original version is also coming with the book
@@nicolasdiaz1542 Ah! I get it. Thank you!
The cartoon daniel from the thumbnail made me gay
Omg green?????
We really need to bring back the word "fortnight" so we can say "fortnightly" and we don't have to explain biweekly. What's the point of using a word that then immediately needs to be explained? Bring back fortnightly and biweekly makes sense again! Explanation free 😊
And for a fortnight there, we were forever
Hello
Even if you improvise your writing you are still making choices, characters aren’t real and you as a writer are in charge of them.
I do improv comedy for fun and I’m a pure pantser, and every choice I make is still a choice, even if it feels like a natural choice. Characters aren’t people they are characters in your head that you are writing.
obvious 'red, blue, and Greene' jokes, anyone?
maybe your fans can help you with panelling
Step one: have already cultivated an audience in a separate media?
Ironically, you need to critically evaluate criticism
Second.
More Non Anglo Novel for the win
Where is my Journey to the West!!
delete your art
(just be sure to save back-ups first)
Remember when this channel was entertaining with well edited 20-30 minute pieces on literature or history instead of these boring fucking podcasts?
Good times.
Remember how they still do that and uploaded a new video just a few days ago and people in the comment sections weren't douchebags about optional content?
Good times.
Seems like it’s time for you to move on then, dude. No need to announce your departure.