WOW, you're bringing back a lot of memories. Not only had the unit pair, but had the portable case, camera (HVC 2200) extension cord (10 meters long) and travel case (that you and i have talked about). That case was really heavy, should have had an option for a hitch and wheels. BTW, the recorder had PCM! could record mono sound. Mine developed a recording problem, so I stopped using it. Made many a video with it. Yea, I did try a wedding but needed anther camera for POV change. A very hard job.
This device is absolutely jam packed! Back in the 90's this kinda tech was pretty much the standard yet. The world changed a LOT! These days your phone does an even better job than this, with the lens & the little vibrating motor being the only mechanical parts. 26:36 - That's a pretty interesting discharge tube in the center. Good to see these working properly yet. That little lever thing in the cassette, I'm not even sure in the purpose of it, seems it's just there to cause trouble. I'd simply remove it. Sometimes devices contain one or a few parts that are just there to cause problems, and removing them won't affect any of the functions. Hmm, actually, you need it there; the lack of it would ALSO cause misthreading or a lack of. Funny how it's the part that does a prevention, also causes just the same problem. Seems like someone's brain farted back in the day at Scotch...
I've owned one of these new since 1984. Unlike VHS (and its rotating upper head drum) the upper and lower head drum is static on these machines, and drum wear causes the tape to stick and causes a knocking sound and sluggish tape winding. EDIT: My oldest surviving Betamax home movie recording from 08 March 1984 (almost 39 years old), plays back perfectly! Nice and clean with no dropouts. My eject is fine, but I suggest slowing the violent eject with your hand!
A friend of mine had a pair of them and one unit had a tv tuner and he used it as his tv cable remote ,this brings back found memories of the eight's thanx for the memories .😊
You talked about the camera and it's quality and limitations. My HVC 2200 also had great color retention except for when the existing light dimmed. Noise started to increase and the image went down.
Looking for the audio board for a Sony 2000 SL. Audio out-put goes in to oscillation / motorboating in playback. Looking for the left side audio board. Any suggestions?
Hi @12voltvids! Nice video ... I have the same model of this beta and the issue is when it plays the rotation of the playing tape is stuttering … as a result the audio wobbles … how can I fix this? :) Thanks!
I have a Sony studio camera that had a dead trinicon tube but I eventually found a new one on Ebay and put it in but it still didn't work. Found some shorted transistors and then I did something stupid that cracked a board in half.
It probably wouldn't have worked anyway or if it did would have looked terrible. Special light boxes and alignment jigs are necessary to do tube replacement on those cameras. Unlike 3 tube or black and white, single tube color are critical in the setup Correct orientation vector is needed as well as critical horizontal and vertical scanning and static beam deflection. Otherwise it won't work. I would not attempt myself because i have seen it done by a Sony tech and he had a real fun time. In addition to the various light box slides he had to use, he had it hooked to a waveform and vector scope and a quad trace scope.
All betamax vcr that I owned in the past had this random horizontal white dropout lines, but I have never seen these annoying lines in even cheapest VHS machines. Some people said that sl-hf900 doesn't has.
@@12voltvids After I received your reply on my comment I jumped and moved the pcm switch on, I don't see any more that white dropout lines , unbelievable I didn't know that for years. 12volvids , Thank you
@@dmitripetrov5536 the reason that switch is there is to disable the drop out compensator. How the dropout compensator works is the video signal not the chroma but just the video signal is fed through a one horizontal line analog delay. This is just a glass delay line which takes one horizontal line for the information to travel from one end of the glass to the other. When a dropout is detected it immediately switches to that one delayed line to replace the dropout which would show up as a white streak. drop out still there but it's not as noticeable because it has active video information from the previous line of video. The problem with the dropout compensator is if you are using the VCR as a PCM recorder with an outboard PCM adapter to record digital audio, digital audio has built in air control so lots of signal for a split second won't affect it the error control will kick in. If the dropout compensator however is trying to compensate for dropouts this will repeat the previous packet which will cause severe errors on the PCM decoder. So they added that switch usually put a rubber cap over it to prevent people from switching it to intentionally disable the tropical compensator to allow the machines to be used as a PCM audio recorder. I used to see machines coming in for service and the switch was turned on because people didn't know what it was they thought it was to improve something. So the PCM switch should never be turned on on a beta Max machine unless you are using it with a standalone PCM audio processor and using it as a audio recorder which many were used as that before digital audio tape became common.
12voltvids thank you for these important and helpful information, I heard that pcm for digital audio, but didn't know that how it's relation to dropout line signals. Thank you very much.
@@dmitripetrov5536 the PCM adapter what it did was it digitized audio and it encoded it as a black and white video signal. Complete with horizontal sink vertical sink everything that would make it display on a TV screen and if you watched it on playback on a monitor it would look like static that changed with the music. the black and white dots on the screen that moved around represented ones and zeros that were laid down on videotape as white and black marks. How a dropout compensator works is by delaying the last known good line so as the tape is being read from top to bottom the scanning lines are drawing out left to right top to bottom a dropout occurs when something on the tape kills the signal typically for a line or two a video. Drop out compensator remembers the previous line before loss of signal and switches that delayed line which is done in the analog domain on these old machines. How it's done is device called the delay line a 1H delay line which means one horizontal line. That way when I drop out occurs the circuit switches to the output of the delay line which is outputting the previous line before the dropout and that line will get repeated over and over until the dropout clears I meant it switches back to what's off the tape typically drop oats only last one or two lines. The problem with Digital Data is that repeating the stream from the previous sample will cause the entire packet to fail. In Digital Data there's what's called CRC, cyclic redundancy check. The audio information and this is the same on compact discs and digital audio tape is not just the audio waveform digitized it is that and then there are copies of it that are also streamed as the correct data so if a packet is decoded in error the processor can look back and see a copy or make up enough information from the CRC data to reconstruct the frame the digital frame. if the errors are too long then you get a digital dropout which will typically result in distortion or the sound cutting out completely but most errors are correctable due to the redundant data. you can't have any analog circuits trying to correct ahead of that that is just going to prestort the data and that delayed signal will really wreck havoc with these PCM adapters. PCM was very widely used on three quarter inch pneumatic decks and betamax. Prior to digital audio tape it was the easiest solution to record digital audio in the studio. They would record a multitrack analog or even a multi-track digital tape in the studio and then Master it to either a beta or 3/4" tape. Prior to digital audio tape NFL 2000 and a PCM F1 which would plug right into the SL 2000 in place of the tuner and provide it with power and the digital circuits, they were used quite extensively for field recording of live performances because they can take the sound right out of the soundboard and come back with a CD quality digital Master which is something they could not do with any analog format. VHS machines didn't have this capability because there was no way to disable the dropout compensator so beta one in this respect. It wasn't better system even for home video but beta really found it's calling in professional work in particular the BETACAM camcorder. Panasonic tried a VHS type professional camcorder called the m format and then later the m2 which was a component system like betacam but it never gained any traction King be the one in the broadcast and professional world even though it lost in the home video war.
Got new engineers at the biomedical department. Do you know how to solder? "Soldering, whats that?" OK, try this copper mesh to exercise on. They turn on the soldering iron to 500 degrees celcius, maximum. Frying the tip. "Why you put it on so high?" "Because it does not work" they said. "Did you clean the tip before putting solder on it?" Nope they said. I'm afraid the human evolution of the next generation is slowly deteriorating. Maybe the movie Idiocracy is where its going after all.
Sad that Sony decided to make the cassettes so small. Longer tape would have been better, Beta 1 had superior quality to digital DVD. But with just 1 hour length it was doomed to be a professional's format, even with Beta II and III whose still couldn't reach the play time of VHS.
Beta 2 got to 3 hours with a 750 foot tape. 3:40 with the thin L830. B3 4:30 and 5h respectively. Btw b1 would do 90min on L750 and 98 on L830 so many movies would fit on a single cassette at b1. Beta failed due to bad marketing on Sony's behalf. The recording speed had nothing to do with it because beta2 was available on all but the first model which wasn't even targeted at consumers.
We've a couple of these wee beasties. One is still 'in line' in our 'computer lab's' A/V rack. Have loads of accessories for 'em - including an early CCD camera. Much lichen. There is a switch in the back (PCM/Captions) of the TT-2000 tuner that turns off the Dropout Compensator for PCM recordings. BTW - we found out 'the hard way' that attempting to charge a crusticated dead NP-1 battery will zotz one of the internal fuses.
Are these portable tuners good for anything now that analog TV is gone? Have a April 1981 General Electric (really just a Matsushita) 1CVT600 tuner. Is it just useless garbage now?
In the U.K. This was the SL-F1, with the matching TT-F1 tuner/timer, top end unit with linier stereo, I always wanted the SL-PCM-F1 adaptor for early digital audio recording.... fab bit of kit! Here is a link to F1 info www.palsite.com/slf1ovi.html
35:59 I've done a video about this very subject: ua-cam.com/video/2EwR3UguxJM/v-deo.html Yet some people says it never happens. In the UK this machine is the SL-F1. I've found the flexi-cables between PCBs can fracture when the case is removed, making repair virtually impossible.
Sony date code "1D" (written on the bottom of the tuner board) means 1981, fourth quarter. They always have the last digit of the year with A through D for quarters.
You must have made this video for me. I have the VCR, tuner, and camera. The last time I used the VCR was 2002. It's always been stored indoors (not a garage). I'd like to get the VCR running well enough to dump my tapes to my computer. What is the best way to digitize the VCR output? I imagine there is some USB converter, but that may not be best.
hi my dad and his mate used to do weddings with this kind of beta unit dad said at the end of the day they would hurt as the gear was so heavy funny thing late on i had a 100ub hi-fi unit and at the time i did had some betacam sp time what i pickup from used tape sells around london later on i looked in to betacam formats they were a lot easier to fix the home unit just could not take the home's i was needing them to do as we all know computer editing killed tape video recorders i have been picking up spares repairs units all over London town for skip prices as video editing pad have to pay for it to be take away 27kgs a betacam is would you get one on your fixing place i have cable all over like you have there we are the same kind of man
He thought this was heavy try hauling around a vo4800 3/4" deck with a Sony dxc1800 or even worse dxcm3 camera. Now that was a brute. The recorder was 20+ lbs as was the camera. Pack one of those around all day.
my unit i GOT 1982. I want to use it to see old recordings but it stopped playing the tape. the unit will fast forward or reverse but it shuts off when I try to plat the tape. What could be the problem.
The Ctl was not adjusted properly.also You have change of speed of capstan motor .may be tape was sticky to blame or capstan motor was dirty on the inside.i was a repair man for these when I was young
Back on Monday, I just ordered my first Betamax VCR which is a Sony SL-2000/TT-2000 portable Betamax VCR and I can’t wait to get it working. I got my first 12 used Betamax tapes and they’re all Scotch L-750’s and I have to test these to see if it looks.
I hope you didn't pay too much. I have 2 systems that were given to me. As far as i know they work. Should sell them but i haven't had much luck selling anything lately. People buy, use for copying their tapes and then threaten negative comments if i don't buy back. Negative review means nobody will buy from you in future. God dam social media.
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The Haunted? Wow very revered Garage band. Have you looked at the value of their original LP and 45s? Off the charts! I have never found a copy been looking for 35 years and I live in Canada. The price has actually gone up for their LP since the last time I looked like tripled price : www.discogs.com/The-Haunted-The-Haunted/release/5897287
And I know a guy that has all the album's and singles. He has a nice house up on the hill with a beautiful view of the Georgia straight and a nice big yaught too. Probably has some unreleased material in his archives too.
This unit belonged to the guitarists of that band. Did much work for him over the years maintaining equipment in his home studio. Must be nice just to play a guitar for a living. As the song went. Money 4 nothing. Ok not quite that famous but......
Any chance you could recommend a repair shop for my SL-2000? My Tuner/Timer unit powers up, but the VCR does not. Would like to transfer lots of old Beta content to digital. Thanks.
Don't know anyone. I service then however the sl2000 is a real pain to work on and with those direct drive motors very complex. They used double sided boards that are easily damaged. You can probably find a mono beta cheaper then fixing they 2000. For that matter i have 2 sl2000 that I will be selling.
In Canada beta actually did very well for years. They had a 45% market share well into the 90s. Most video stores carried both formats and as a rental format it was generally easier to find a movie because less people were looking for it especially as the format started to wane in the early 90s. The shop I worked for initially did video rentals and because it was a Sony dealer had beta only rentals and we were busy for many years renting beta tapes. I forget exactly what year we dropped rentals but I did end up with a bunch of tapes that were left over after the big beta sell off. We had a big collection of RCA CED video disks too but RCA took all those back when they killed the CED format
@@12voltvids in the UK you could tell Betamax was waning by the mid 1980s and Sony came out with a VHS machine in 1988. A large percentage of people rented, and the parent of the major rental companies had a tie in JVC. We came very close to getting VHD video disc with them even building a factory in the UK to press them. The machine that kept Betamax going in the second half of the 1980s was the Sanyo VTC5000. If you wanted to buy a VCR and your main interest was time shifting, at £249 it was £100 cheaper than the cheapest VHS.
Good video! I was wondering if you might have an idea about the problem I have with my TT-200 and the tuner module. The images seems fine on screen, the the audio is another story… I think that the sound output is low (on the rf or the audio jack). I then need to turn up the volume. But then, sound is not very clear, and i either have a MMMMMM (potentially ground issue) or some kind of a Sssssssss ….. So far I could not figure out how this can be fixed (not a repair person to say…
Great video. I have the European version the SL-F1E, unfortauntely, it has a few issues. Sluggish rewind for one but the main issue is during play. It's fine if I play and do FF picture seach but if I just play it stops after a few seconds. I took off the cover and I see that the tape is spooling just south of the largest of the two eject wheels are. Any ideas what I could do to fix it?
I saw someone in college who owned one of these. The tuner is modular apart from the mechanical tape manipulator. If you have sticky videotapes, try baking it in a food dehydrator to dry it out.
I have Sanyo's alternative option for a portable Betamax, the VPR-5800. Manufacturing date is 1981 and uses the same battery and K-connector camera socket.
The betamax portable units all used the same np1 battery and the k camera connector. The battery was also used on pretty much all professional cameras right up to at least 2000 perhaps even longer. My last professional camera the JVC gydv500 uses the same battery. They did change from nicd to NIMH so the newer ones did run longer.
My much loved Sony C-7 died and It Is almost Impossible to get parts In the UK. So had to bin It so sad. I used to get the Music Video's of the day on this format now I can't play them.
There are plenty of refurbished Betamax machines on Ebay. Some even come with a warrantee. Don't expect to get one for the price of a VHS machine though.
HAHA shows how much attention I paid to that. I had a watch that when I bought it had the date and time already set and it was off by a year. It didn't display the day, just the month and date so of course every day was correct until the leap year was off. I had gotten the watch for my birthday the prior year and didn't discover the error until after the error. The date should have said March 1 85, but I just wrote what was on my watch when I wrote the label.
Great video. I have the F1 digital audio unit that matches that style machine. We used to use them for digital audio at the CBC before the advent of DAT.
@@12voltvids They were handy little interfaces that allowed the conversion of audio to pcm 16-48 and back. We did a lot of classical and jazz concerts recordings to Beta. The BBC used them heavily as well. We had two F1's and two 601's in Vancouver. The F1's were generally used on the road with the portable Beta machines and the 601's were used in studio with home style Beta machines primarily for playback.
@@12voltvids do you have a model for it? Otherwise you have to make a model first. And i guess someone much closer to you can print it in nylon. Or perhaps in a resinprinter may be better resolution.
See if you can find anyone who can cad it for you. If you kept the old parts it should be pretty easy. Almost everyone with 3d printers have learned it i think.
WOW, you're bringing back a lot of memories. Not only had the unit pair, but had the portable case, camera (HVC 2200) extension cord (10 meters long) and travel case (that you and i have talked about). That case was really heavy, should have had an option for a hitch and wheels. BTW, the recorder had PCM! could record mono sound. Mine developed a recording problem, so I stopped using it. Made many a video with it. Yea, I did try a wedding but needed anther camera for POV change. A very hard job.
A good old quality machine, it didn't even have any bad caps stopping it from working.
This device is absolutely jam packed! Back in the 90's this kinda tech was pretty much the standard yet. The world changed a LOT! These days your phone does an even better job than this, with the lens & the little vibrating motor being the only mechanical parts.
26:36 - That's a pretty interesting discharge tube in the center.
Good to see these working properly yet. That little lever thing in the cassette, I'm not even sure in the purpose of it, seems it's just there to cause trouble. I'd simply remove it. Sometimes devices contain one or a few parts that are just there to cause problems, and removing them won't affect any of the functions.
Hmm, actually, you need it there; the lack of it would ALSO cause misthreading or a lack of. Funny how it's the part that does a prevention, also causes just the same problem. Seems like someone's brain farted back in the day at Scotch...
I've owned one of these new since 1984. Unlike VHS (and its rotating upper head drum) the upper and lower head drum is static on these machines, and drum wear causes the tape to stick and causes a knocking sound and sluggish tape winding.
EDIT: My oldest surviving Betamax home movie recording from 08 March 1984 (almost 39 years old), plays back perfectly! Nice and clean with no dropouts.
My eject is fine, but I suggest slowing the violent eject with your hand!
The upper drum gets polished by the tape. The tape slap is due to the heavy rotors on the tape hubs. Direct drive reel tables were a bad idea.
Loving the wonky telegraph pole from 2019 😂
Arial plant it still the majority of infrastructure here. Too expensive to burry it.
A friend of mine had a pair of them and one unit had a tv tuner and he used it as his tv cable remote ,this brings back found memories of the eight's thanx for the memories .😊
You talked about the camera and it's quality and limitations. My HVC 2200 also had great color retention except for when the existing light dimmed. Noise started to increase and the image went down.
These old tube cameras were horrendous. Tubes might sound fine on an amplifier but for cameras they suck.
Coincidentally, I also worked for Sony in 1983.
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Looking for the audio board for a Sony 2000 SL. Audio out-put goes in to oscillation / motorboating in playback. Looking for the left side audio board. Any suggestions?
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Hi @12voltvids! Nice video ... I have the same model of this beta and the issue is when it plays the rotation of the playing tape is stuttering … as a result the audio wobbles … how can I fix this? :) Thanks!
Probably caps in the capstan servo circuit. Sorry don't know which ones. Have not worked on one of these in many years.
I have a Sony studio camera that had a dead trinicon tube but I eventually found a new one on Ebay and put it in but it still didn't work. Found some shorted transistors and then I did something stupid that cracked a board in half.
It probably wouldn't have worked anyway or if it did would have looked terrible. Special light boxes and alignment jigs are necessary to do tube replacement on those cameras. Unlike 3 tube or black and white, single tube color are critical in the setup
Correct orientation vector is needed as well as critical horizontal and vertical scanning and static beam deflection. Otherwise it won't work. I would not attempt myself because i have seen it done by a Sony tech and he had a real fun time. In addition to the various light box slides he had to use, he had it hooked to a waveform and vector scope and a quad trace scope.
@@12voltvids Wow. I guess thats why I got it for free.
I still have it but what should I do with it ?
@@andershammer9307 i only use mine as a colorbar generator.
All betamax vcr that I owned in the past had this random horizontal white dropout lines, but I have never seen these annoying lines in even cheapest VHS machines. Some people said that sl-hf900 doesn't has.
Many people turned the PCM switch on which disabled the drop out compensator.
@@12voltvids After I received your reply on my comment I jumped and moved the pcm switch on, I don't see any more that white dropout lines , unbelievable I didn't know that for years. 12volvids , Thank you
@@dmitripetrov5536 the reason that switch is there is to disable the drop out compensator. How the dropout compensator works is the video signal not the chroma but just the video signal is fed through a one horizontal line analog delay. This is just a glass delay line which takes one horizontal line for the information to travel from one end of the glass to the other. When a dropout is detected it immediately switches to that one delayed line to replace the dropout which would show up as a white streak. drop out still there but it's not as noticeable because it has active video information from the previous line of video. The problem with the dropout compensator is if you are using the VCR as a PCM recorder with an outboard PCM adapter to record digital audio, digital audio has built in air control so lots of signal for a split second won't affect it the error control will kick in. If the dropout compensator however is trying to compensate for dropouts this will repeat the previous packet which will cause severe errors on the PCM decoder. So they added that switch usually put a rubber cap over it to prevent people from switching it to intentionally disable the tropical compensator to allow the machines to be used as a PCM audio recorder. I used to see machines coming in for service and the switch was turned on because people didn't know what it was they thought it was to improve something. So the PCM switch should never be turned on on a beta Max machine unless you are using it with a standalone PCM audio processor and using it as a audio recorder which many were used as that before digital audio tape became common.
12voltvids thank you for these important and helpful information, I heard that pcm for digital audio, but didn't know that how it's relation to dropout line signals.
Thank you very much.
@@dmitripetrov5536 the PCM adapter what it did was it digitized audio and it encoded it as a black and white video signal. Complete with horizontal sink vertical sink everything that would make it display on a TV screen and if you watched it on playback on a monitor it would look like static that changed with the music. the black and white dots on the screen that moved around represented ones and zeros that were laid down on videotape as white and black marks. How a dropout compensator works is by delaying the last known good line so as the tape is being read from top to bottom the scanning lines are drawing out left to right top to bottom a dropout occurs when something on the tape kills the signal typically for a line or two a video. Drop out compensator remembers the previous line before loss of signal and switches that delayed line which is done in the analog domain on these old machines. How it's done is device called the delay line a 1H delay line which means one horizontal line. That way when I drop out occurs the circuit switches to the output of the delay line which is outputting the previous line before the dropout and that line will get repeated over and over until the dropout clears I meant it switches back to what's off the tape typically drop oats only last one or two lines. The problem with Digital Data is that repeating the stream from the previous sample will cause the entire packet to fail. In Digital Data there's what's called CRC, cyclic redundancy check. The audio information and this is the same on compact discs and digital audio tape is not just the audio waveform digitized it is that and then there are copies of it that are also streamed as the correct data so if a packet is decoded in error the processor can look back and see a copy or make up enough information from the CRC data to reconstruct the frame the digital frame. if the errors are too long then you get a digital dropout which will typically result in distortion or the sound cutting out completely but most errors are correctable due to the redundant data. you can't have any analog circuits trying to correct ahead of that that is just going to prestort the data and that delayed signal will really wreck havoc with these PCM adapters. PCM was very widely used on three quarter inch pneumatic decks and betamax. Prior to digital audio tape it was the easiest solution to record digital audio in the studio. They would record a multitrack analog or even a multi-track digital tape in the studio and then Master it to either a beta or 3/4" tape. Prior to digital audio tape NFL 2000 and a PCM F1 which would plug right into the SL 2000 in place of the tuner and provide it with power and the digital circuits, they were used quite extensively for field recording of live performances because they can take the sound right out of the soundboard and come back with a CD quality digital Master which is something they could not do with any analog format. VHS machines didn't have this capability because there was no way to disable the dropout compensator so beta one in this respect. It wasn't better system even for home video but beta really found it's calling in professional work in particular the BETACAM camcorder. Panasonic tried a VHS type professional camcorder called the m format and then later the m2 which was a component system like betacam but it never gained any traction King be the one in the broadcast and professional world even though it lost in the home video war.
The audio seems a little out of sync this time.
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Got new engineers at the biomedical department. Do you know how to solder? "Soldering, whats that?" OK, try this copper mesh to exercise on. They turn on the soldering iron to 500 degrees celcius, maximum. Frying the tip. "Why you put it on so high?" "Because it does not work" they said. "Did you clean the tip before putting solder on it?" Nope they said. I'm afraid the human evolution of the next generation is slowly deteriorating. Maybe the movie Idiocracy is where its going after all.
Sad that Sony decided to make the cassettes so small. Longer tape would have been better, Beta 1 had superior quality to digital DVD. But with just 1 hour length it was doomed to be a professional's format, even with Beta II and III whose still couldn't reach the play time of VHS.
Beta 2 got to 3 hours with a 750 foot tape. 3:40 with the thin L830. B3 4:30 and 5h respectively. Btw b1 would do 90min on L750 and 98 on L830 so many movies would fit on a single cassette at b1. Beta failed due to bad marketing on Sony's behalf. The recording speed had nothing to do with it because beta2 was available on all but the first model which wasn't even targeted at consumers.
@@12voltvids I see. Sad. VHS is just garbage.
@@kyoudaiken It was, but it was the format with staying power.
We've a couple of these wee beasties. One is still 'in line' in our 'computer lab's' A/V rack. Have loads of accessories for 'em - including an early CCD camera. Much lichen. There is a switch in the back (PCM/Captions) of the TT-2000 tuner that turns off the Dropout Compensator for PCM recordings.
BTW - we found out 'the hard way' that attempting to charge a crusticated dead NP-1 battery will zotz one of the internal fuses.
Was the CCD camera a Sony CCD-G5? That was an old CCD camera that plugged into a portable VCR, like a Trinicon camera. There's one on eBay for $50.
Are these portable tuners good for anything now that analog TV is gone? Have a April 1981 General Electric (really just a Matsushita) 1CVT600 tuner. Is it just useless garbage now?
Great video. When I was in school back in 90s they still betamax player in use.
In the U.K. This was the SL-F1, with the matching TT-F1 tuner/timer, top end unit with linier stereo, I always wanted the SL-PCM-F1 adaptor for early digital audio recording.... fab bit of kit!
Here is a link to F1 info www.palsite.com/slf1ovi.html
The Clamp disc are missing? (On the drum)
That's just the head disk stabilizer.
35:59 I've done a video about this very subject: ua-cam.com/video/2EwR3UguxJM/v-deo.html
Yet some people says it never happens.
In the UK this machine is the SL-F1. I've found the flexi-cables between PCBs can fracture when the case is removed, making repair virtually impossible.
Hi will you do or have done a tear down/repair on a Sony MZ-R30 minidisc recorder/player as I would like to refurbish my unit.
The personal ones are the hardest to fix , I have 2 of them on standby .
Can not get inside them yet
My friend had one of those. We had lots of fun making videos of all kinds of stuff.
Sony date code "1D" (written on the bottom of the tuner board) means 1981, fourth quarter. They always have the last digit of the year with A through D for quarters.
Learned something new for SUNY date codes.
You must have made this video for me. I have the VCR, tuner, and camera. The last time I used the VCR was 2002. It's always been stored indoors (not a garage). I'd like to get the VCR running well enough to dump my tapes to my computer. What is the best way to digitize the VCR output? I imagine there is some USB converter, but that may not be best.
Japanese engineering to the max !!!!
hi my dad and his mate used to do weddings with this kind of beta unit dad said at the end of the day they would hurt as the gear was so heavy
funny thing late on i had a 100ub hi-fi unit and at the time i did had some betacam sp time what i pickup from used tape sells around london
later on i looked in to betacam formats they were a lot easier to fix the home unit just could not take the home's i was needing them to do
as we all know computer editing killed tape video recorders i have been picking up spares repairs units all over London town for skip prices
as video editing pad have to pay for it to be take away 27kgs a betacam is would you get one on your fixing place i have cable all over like you have
there we are the same kind of man
He thought this was heavy try hauling around a vo4800 3/4" deck with a Sony dxc1800 or even worse dxcm3 camera. Now that was a brute. The recorder was 20+ lbs as was the camera. Pack one of those around all day.
thats right i like beta vcr its my history
my unit i GOT 1982. I want to use it to see old recordings but it stopped playing the tape. the unit will fast forward or reverse but it shuts off when I try to plat the tape. What could be the problem.
I own the Zenith version of this (Zenith VR9800 VCR/Zenith VRT9850 tuner unit). This video will be handy if it stops working.
The Ctl was not adjusted properly.also You have change of speed of capstan motor .may be tape was sticky to blame or capstan motor was dirty on the inside.i was a repair man for these when I was young
Back on Monday, I just ordered my first Betamax VCR which is a Sony SL-2000/TT-2000 portable Betamax VCR and I can’t wait to get it working. I got my first 12 used Betamax tapes and they’re all Scotch L-750’s and I have to test these to see if it looks.
I hope you didn't pay too much. I have 2 systems that were given to me. As far as i know they work. Should sell them but i haven't had much luck selling anything lately. People buy, use for copying their tapes and then threaten negative comments if i don't buy back. Negative review means nobody will buy from you in future. God dam social media.
The Haunted? Wow very revered Garage band. Have you looked at the value of their original LP and 45s? Off the charts! I have never found a copy been looking for 35 years and I live in Canada. The price has actually gone up for their LP since the last time I looked like tripled price : www.discogs.com/The-Haunted-The-Haunted/release/5897287
And I know a guy that has all the album's and singles. He has a nice house up on the hill with a beautiful view of the Georgia straight and a nice big yaught too.
Probably has some unreleased material in his archives too.
I looked up the band you mentioned and did not regret it. That was some good stuff!
This unit belonged to the guitarists of that band. Did much work for him over the years maintaining equipment in his home studio. Must be nice just to play a guitar for a living. As the song went. Money 4 nothing. Ok not quite that famous but......
Sir please the VCR is sale
Any chance you could recommend a repair shop for my SL-2000? My Tuner/Timer unit powers up, but the VCR does not. Would like to transfer lots of old Beta content to digital. Thanks.
Don't know anyone. I service then however the sl2000 is a real pain to work on and with those direct drive motors very complex.
They used double sided boards that are easily damaged. You can probably find a mono beta cheaper then fixing they 2000. For that matter i have 2 sl2000 that I will be selling.
It's amazing the caps are still good.
Why not? They are not surface mount crappacitor and they were made before all the fakes hit the market.
@@12voltvids agree that machine will still outlast anything from today. its older than me.
@@eman59461 especially when it isn't used!
I have an SL2001 that isnt working. Whereabouts in Canada are you? Id love yo get it working
Vancouver region.
Never had Beta. But watched because it's interesting.
In Canada beta actually did very well for years. They had a 45% market share well into the 90s. Most video stores carried both formats and as a rental format it was generally easier to find a movie because less people were looking for it especially as the format started to wane in the early 90s. The shop I worked for initially did video rentals and because it was a Sony dealer had beta only rentals and we were busy for many years renting beta tapes. I forget exactly what year we dropped rentals but I did end up with a bunch of tapes that were left over after the big beta sell off. We had a big collection of RCA CED video disks too but RCA took all those back when they killed the CED format
@@12voltvids in the UK you could tell Betamax was waning by the mid 1980s and Sony came out with a VHS machine in 1988. A large percentage of people rented, and the parent of the major rental companies had a tie in JVC. We came very close to getting VHD video disc with them even building a factory in the UK to press them.
The machine that kept Betamax going in the second half of the 1980s was the Sanyo VTC5000. If you wanted to buy a VCR and your main interest was time shifting, at £249 it was £100 cheaper than the cheapest VHS.
Hi, I have this unit a real beauty., and she still works .
I have 2 and last time i checked they worked too.
Does it use beta software lol
Everything about it is beta lol
Good video!
I was wondering if you might have an idea about the problem I have with my TT-200 and the tuner module.
The images seems fine on screen, the the audio is another story…
I think that the sound output is low (on the rf or the audio jack). I then need to turn up the volume. But then, sound is not very clear, and i either have a MMMMMM (potentially ground issue) or some kind of a Sssssssss …..
So far I could not figure out how this can be fixed (not a repair person to say…
Great video. I have the European version the SL-F1E, unfortauntely, it has a few issues. Sluggish rewind for one but the main issue is during play. It's fine if I play and do FF picture seach but if I just play it stops after a few seconds. I took off the cover and I see that the tape is spooling just south of the largest of the two eject wheels are. Any ideas what I could do to fix it?
I saw someone in college who owned one of these. The tuner is modular apart from the mechanical tape manipulator.
If you have sticky videotapes, try baking it in a food dehydrator to dry it out.
I have Sanyo's alternative option for a portable Betamax, the VPR-5800. Manufacturing date is 1981 and uses the same battery and K-connector camera socket.
The betamax portable units all used the same np1 battery and the k camera connector. The battery was also used on pretty much all professional cameras right up to at least 2000 perhaps even longer. My last professional camera the JVC gydv500 uses the same battery. They did change from nicd to NIMH so the newer ones did run longer.
Betadinosaurs not Betamax>>lool
My much loved Sony C-7 died and It Is almost Impossible to get parts In the UK. So had to bin It so sad. I used to get the Music Video's of the day on this format now I can't play them.
There are plenty of refurbished Betamax machines on Ebay. Some even come with a warrantee. Don't expect to get one for the price of a VHS machine though.
I had the exact Sony here back in the mid 80s .
Give the battery a jump start Dave , get a spark & give it a chance why not
It's apple laptop it's input is from tape but maybe it's not newer one
Why don't you use VCR cleaner
The tape is dated, "Feb. 29, 1985." :D
HAHA shows how much attention I paid to that. I had a watch that when I bought it had the date and time already set and it was off by a year. It didn't display the day, just the month and date so of course every day was correct until the leap year was off. I had gotten the watch for my birthday the prior year and didn't discover the error until after the error. The date should have said March 1 85, but I just wrote what was on my watch when I wrote the label.
Great video. I have the F1 digital audio unit that matches that style machine. We used to use them for digital audio at the CBC before the advent of DAT.
I saw the F1 once but never used one.
@@12voltvids They were handy little interfaces that allowed the conversion of audio to pcm 16-48 and back. We did a lot of classical and jazz concerts recordings to Beta. The BBC used them heavily as well. We had two F1's and two 601's in Vancouver. The F1's were generally used on the road with the portable Beta machines and the 601's were used in studio with home style Beta machines primarily for playback.
I love the cat voice in the beginning ❤
try 3d printing a new gear.
How about you 3d print one for me.
@@12voltvids do you have a model for it? Otherwise you have to make a model first. And i guess someone much closer to you can print it in nylon. Or perhaps in a resinprinter may be better resolution.
@@Erlandsson1964 Nope no cad drawing for it.
See if you can find anyone who can cad it for you. If you kept the old parts it should be pretty easy. Almost everyone with 3d printers have learned it i think.