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How Historically Accurate is The Highwaymen?
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2019
- This video will be going through the movie The Highwaymen (2019) and looking at its historical accuracy.
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Costner made stiuff up himself
Lawmen are working class folks, People who work in banks are working class folks, and People who put their money in banks are largely working class folks. Bonnie and Clyde were murdering thugs.. full stop.
Think Bonnie and Clyde earned every bullet in their final goodbye and they knew it was coming.
Correct, and, in at least some of her writing, she had already-been making that clear. That GANG had obviously-been taking-advantage-of local, small-town banks and Cops, while employing their STOLEN Texas National Guard Armory Browning Automatic Rifles, against local bank guards or Deputies armed with their .38's. But Bonnie was no dummy, and she just had-to-KNOW that, eventually, the LAW would EVENTUALLY-be getting SERIOUS, ENOUGH, to run-in someone who wouldn't PLAY-with them, and THAT was RANGER FRANK HAMER.
But you don't consider those who rob innocent people deserve the same treatment?
@@eja339 Oh, bugger off. That's a completely unrelated topic.
@@eja339 they do deserve the same thing if, they do it constantly. Bonnie and Clyde murdered and robbed at a time where money was scarce, the Great Depression. They are different situations
I believe the real total was 173 bullets fired into their car 51 bullets hit and killed Clyde 53 bullets hit Barney the first bullet hit Clyde on the left temple some speculate a pastors had an actually kill Barney while other reports actually state that it killed Clyde Barney was still alive and actually started screaming (whether she screamed because Clyde killed her or because Ted Higgins gun actually fired eight rounds from his browning automatic rifle in a straight vertical line that hit Bonnie through the windshield is the question); I’ve done a lot of research into the accuracy of this movie definitely hands-down the best representation and I wish they showed this story first instead of glorifying the killers of Bonnie and Clyde because they were no good citizens frank Hamer Maney Gault Bob Alcorn Ted Hinton and the other two officers definitely should’ve been portrayed as the heroes back in the 60s when they made the fade done away worn bee version it’s sad it took 85 years for the real story to finally come out glad it did though!! What better actors to portray the two than Kevin Costner in Woody Harrelson top-notch acting
Costner and Woody Harrelson Said the film shoot out was done on the exact place where the real shootout took place.
I heard that to. but the place today is a paved road with the tree line cut way back from the road side. It was a dirt road back then with the trees almost right up to the road side. I think what they did for the movie was to just film a few hundred yards down on a side road which is still dirt and looks the way the ambush site was that fateful day?
@@MegaWolfgang that makes sense, thanks for update.
How Woody never won an oscar for his role in this movie is a mystery. He is brilliant.
@@MegaWolfgang I was once in a period film ("Gettysburg") that was shot on location on a portion of the Gettysburg battlefield that had the same situation...it was shooting on a road that was dirt at the time of the scene, but had since been paved in modern times. To make the dirt road on the same stretch of road that was now paved, the production trucked in a dozen or so dump trucks full of dirt. They spread it over the road and packed it down with a roller; after shooting was wrapped for that scene, they scraped all the dirt up with a front-end loader and got rid of it again.
I heard that 2. Also supposedly some of the movie Public Enemies with Johnny Depp playing John Dillinger was supposedly filmed at the same places or near the same places that events took place.
I just visited the Texas Ranger Museum and Hall of fame in Waco TX. They had a neat exhibit on Hamer and Bonnie and Clyde. Have all the weapons they used as well. I recommend a visit there.
I want to visit that one of these days.
I've been there, it's a great museum.
Overall, good review. Good points about Ma and the Ranger force. I’d like to share some details with you regarding Bonnie’s involvement. I am very familiar with these events as a family member of one of the two primary characters (Maney Gault) amd as someone who has discussed this case in detail with legitimate historians. Bonnie did, in fact, shoot the officer in Grapevine. The belief that she did not had been a myth perpetuated by her cult following. They are using a misleading statement made to a newspaper reporter to perpetuate this myth. There were actually multiple eye witnesses that saw Bonnie shoot the officer. Forensic evidence at the scene also indicated Bonnie. The witness (Giggles) who say he saw “the taller of two men” shoot the officer was not even at the scene of the crime until after the officer had already been shot by Bonnie. Giggles was only at the scene because he heard gun shots and then turned his car around and drove to the scene. He could not possibly have seen who shot the officer. There were 4 people who saw Bonnie do the shooting. There was a fifth witness who saw Bonnie there moments before the shooting. Their stories are all consistent. Giggles saw the scene from a distance, with his view obstructed by a grove of trees. Bonnie was indicted for the murder by a grand jury. These are all verifiable facts. I hope you will consider amending your video one more time to reflect this truth: I’m happy to discuss the details with you and provide references.
Respectfully,
Mike Gault
Very disturbing how people viewed and still view those criminals. Sure hope someday they find some sense.
Thanks for that, I always thought the testimony was accurate.
@@progenji6407 Yes, the "latterday Robin Hoods" myth, that Dillinger and Floyd also had. The Depression era brought out the worst in some and the best in others.
Nobody knows with 100% certainty whether she shot the officer or not except for Bonnie, Clyde and Methvin and they're not talking.
@@JackTheSkunk There is no such thing as 100% certainty. But anyone who would doubt Bonnie's guilt in the face of the evidence against her is just looking for a reason to sympathize with a very sick individual that ruined many lives.
My grandma told me a little bit about them since she lived through it (my daddy was a toddler at the time) & they came through Oklahoma. Bonnie did commit murder, I don't how many she participated in (actually the only one shooting as depicted) but there was a police officer who she did kill. I was young, so she didn't go into details but did confirm that she was responsible for killing at least 1 officer & other people. What is amazing is that people actually admired them, not my grandma. It was due in large part by newspapers & their selfish desire to sell them, not so different from today's MSM. Thanks for this video, well done young man!!
I've always felt Bonnie was MUCH more involved that history would have us believe. There are accounts, but these were dismissed by "journalists" who wanted to keep them heroes (reminds me of "journalists" these days).
Amen
I'm amazed at how many people attended their funerals
Go read the book "Public Enemies" it's the most accurate history on all the depression era bank robbers !!!! Everything else is fabrication!!!!
This movie is more accurate than the 1967 movie that one glamorize Bonnie and Clyde as depression era robin hood bank robbers, realuty is they mostly robbed small family owned stores and the thompson submacinegun was not used by in the fatal ambush because the 45 bullets could not go all the way through a fords car body that is why the possie used remington 08 and BARs full size rifle cartridge firing guns.
Well the Texas Rangers were actually largely disbanded following 1848… they were just reinstated and funded in 1857. So you’re partially correct on that one.
However the rest, it’s been proven Bonnie was a willing participant and it’s been proven that this movie is quite literally the most accurate, outside of the liberties taken by Hollywood.
You may want to read "I'm Frank Hamer", the book has a bibliography. Bonnie wasn't an innocent bystander......
Russell Hamer lied thruout his book
@@gregwatson8219 To what do you base your statement on???
His book was full of holes
@@russellowen4543 He was a corrupt and liar
@@gregwatson8219 Again, to what do you base your statement on??
actually, she did shoot the cop. Could be wrong, but you know. I'm not.
I know the scene at the gas station wasn't to our knowledge something that happened but if you read about Frank Hamar it is very much something he would have done to find the criminal he was after im sure he really did things like that often.
It happened. My grandfather was on the roof repairing shingles at the time and saw and heard everything.
@@JC-oc7um thats awesome. Hamer was the guy you didn't wanna run into but also a guy we needed doing the job.
He was one tough hombre
Hey there. I played a background character in the highwaymen movie in that scene when the little girl shows the doll. I just wanted to say, that it was fun to be a part of. 😀
The hitmarkers 🤣. Combined with the memes in this you earned a like instantly my man
Well made video. I do believe you are underestimating Bonnie's involvement though, based on historical records.
She was well involved more than what people think
The prison escape scene where Bonnie is firing a Thompson full auto for what seems like 2 plus minutes is comical. I giggle everytime I see it.
My police department had six 1927 Thompsons smgs and I had the good fortune of firinging them in the late 1990s at the range. A fully loaded drum magazine held 50 rounds on full auto that drum was empty in less then 4 maybe 5 seconds . I believe the rate of fire is 800 rounds per minute of a pre WW2 Thompson . Meaning Bonnie would have fired 1600 to 2000 rounds during the prison break scene.
I dont think crippled Bonnie Parker could lift that much ammo, never mind switching drums
Bonnie and Clyde walked into a BAR
When you look at the bullet pattern on the actual car... for close range the gun fire was not that accurate from at least some of the ambush team... a sort of spray and pray
Hahaha
Not sure I believe any movie is historically accurate but the manos arribas story was certainly worth the price of admission.
You did your homework. As for Bonnie's involvement in the killings, there has been great debate. I don't much care either way. Like Clyde, she needed killing. Hamer was the the man to do it. The only thing you left out was the controversy over who called out for them to surrender, Hamer or Sheriff Jordan? I suspect both men did. In the fusillade that followed it is generally agreed that Deputy Oakley fired the first fatal shot into Barrow. After that it is anyone's guess who shot whom.
Bonnie & Clyde made their bed crime scene by crime scene, killing by killing. Bonnie go where Clyde go and ain't no way Clyde was going to surrender. They knew what the end would be, Bonnie wrote a poem about it for Gods sake. Recalling the letter Clyde sent to Ford Motor Co about their wonderful V8 car congratulating Henry Ford "While I still have breath in my lungs" 60 seconds of terror for them perhaps if that ....and their gone together B&C=Problem Hamer=Solution
Interesting to note how many more bullet holes were in the driver's side of the windshield.
In the movie both sides were shot full of holes.
The bullet holes on the passenger side were exit holes.
Yeah those BARs shoot 30-06 so they would have passed right through the whole car.
@@yourarseismine1016 Yes, they said at the time that the steel jacketed bullets went through the drivers side door, through Clyde, through her, and exited through the passenger side door. The first couple of shots were headshots and did the job but the rest was the "hail of bullets" as revenge that they were notorious for.
@@yourarseismine1016 Ted HInton's BAR was the only full automatic used. There was no Thompson since they didn't trust the pistol cartridges to go through cars.
This is not the story of Bonnie & Clyde its the story of Frank Hamer & Manny Gualt
Good point... it's not a Bonnie and Clyde movie at all really.
The scene where they ambush the couple is one of my favorite scenes in movie history. Just because you can feel the tension and the fear in everyone.
Na the original Bonnie and Clyde shootout scene in the 1967 film was a million times better!!!!! They made u feel for them as humans & see it from their point of view rather than just making them look like evil criminals which they definitely were but they were still humans with emotions!!!!! Both films tell it from each separate side but the 1967 film makes more of a intense scene because u already spent two hours getting to know them as characters!!!! Highway men just portrays them as devils & nothing else & it doesn't do anything for anyone as a viewer!!!!! They shouldn't be romanticized but they shouldn't be treated as soulless ppl either like they are from a different planet or something!!!! The original ending shooting was a billion times more impactful !!!!! This one doesn't even make u feel anything at all😂 it just looks cool & that's literally it
@@maralinekozial9131 the 1967 movie was a poor one since they didn't bother with facts. The Highwaymen was better since they kept themselves close to history.
Bonnie wrote that she killed an Officer. She got exactly what she deserved.
Great commentary, this is a very good movie, and I enjoyed it very much.
It’s a movie based on historical events and real people. It’s a dramatization. A damn good one
The Highwaymen was 100% accurate. I was there. You weren’t born yet . I was the fat kid in the gun store.
your were simply robust for your age dear. and I agree, based on the facts alone this film was indeed very accurate.
No he was big boned
LOL😄👌
The pair died as violently as they lived. They totally had it coming.
Ma Ferguson was as corrupt as they come. I enjoyed your video.
Ok, there are several historians that contend Bonnie did participate, including shooting innocent victims. The rumor about her being innocent was started by her mother. My issue with these presentations is it's subjective. In addition, if someone wants history , take a college class, not watch a movie. Movies use artistic license to make movies interesting. History and movies about historical events aren't the same thing.
One thing the movie showed was how despicable the duo were in their killing. The romanticized Hollywood version in 1967 had little to do with reality.
According to John Boessenecker who wrote “Texas Ranger, the epic life of Frank Hamer”, Hamer and his posse were in the weeds along the road, ten feet apart. Clyde Barrow and Bonnie came along in their light tan Ford V-8 and stopped for Mr. Methvin, fixing the flat tire. Just then, a logging truck with two black guys came the other direction. Clyde moved his car forward to let the logging truck by on the narrow road. There had been arguments between Hamer and Sherrif Jordan IF they would say “Halt” to Bonnie and Clyde OR just open up. As the logging truck proceeded and Clyde car moved forward, an inexperienced deputy thought Clyde was escaping. Several of the officers yelled”Halt!!”, but then ...Firing began.
Kathy Bates as Ma b. a good movie
Oakley didn't wait for a warning. He shot Clyde in the head when the car started moving and it could have been over at that point.
Yeah supposedly Bonnie's family kept saying she didn't do any of the killing. Fact is they weren't there so they have no idea, a witness said he saw a small person execute the police officers on the ground. That's bull crap to keep saying Bonnie didn't do any of the killing. You think we get better at telling this story as time goes on that doesn't seem to be the case
There was no car chase. That was to show the frustration of being always one step behind.
Great video cheers - what’s the song at the end can’t find it in the sounds track (so stuck in my head)
Sure, they targeted some banks and penitentiary locations. But they mostly targeted small businesses; gas stations and general stores.
It's amazing that you speak with such confidence about facts that are still not fully established, like whether Bonnie shot police or how involved she was, kind of crappy historic fact checking dude
Agreed
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She wrote it in her diary that she shot a cop. It was her mother who twisted that truth. Bonnie knew what she was doing and was a sadist. I read a good book where Clyde's family said if he never met Bonnie his life path would be different. That's what's called Wicked Attractions like from cable network ID. That doesn't take away the cold blooded murders of the cops they did.
You know, I've never played any "Grand Theft Auto", but whenever I see that screen that says "WASTED", I think of Bonnie and Clyde, quite the legacy...
Thanks for this. There is so much misinformation about the real Bonnie and Clyde story, much of it from Hollywood...
Good job,.....thx for being straight forward and non biased.
Even though there were some historical inaccuracies, and there always is, I thought this was a very entertaining movie. One has to have an interest in this time period, the people portrayed within it and so on. If your thing is power rangers and rap artists, then it's likely not for you. If you like crime drama, history and events of early 1900's America, you'll like it for sure. Me... I liked it.
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Good video.
Yes, indeed, and a superb addition to the "Road Movie" genre with excellent soundtrack by Thomas Newman.
To tell how accurate a period movie is, look the mens' hair length
Everyone want to be Bonny and Clyde. I rather be the highwaymen
Bonnie & Clyde were cowardly murderous thugs and this movie does not tell their story. It tells the story of the brave lawmen who brought justice to them. All the while explaining how the public will reach out and adopt has heroes very bad people.
It is a movie so dramatic license is understood, but this movie is fairly accurate in the viciousness of the criminals and the anguish of those tasked with ending their crime spree.
Having said all that, you did a fairly good job in making this video. Practice makes perfect.
They shot the final scene on the exact spot ,used the same guns ,same scenes. I think it was a really good film. And Costner and Woody come on ,that ain't half bad.👍
We know that Bonnie was an accessory to many crimes including robbery and murder of police officers. It sort of is a moot point whether she pullled the trigger or not because no doubt she did kill at least a few people. We will never know for sure but when she hung around Clyde Barrow a murderer, robber and killer of police officers, she made her own choices. I tend to think she was entirely capable of shooting the wounded cops with a shotgun.
But here again, the historical evidence is sketchy on these points. Police officers were killed by Bonnie and Clyde or by Clyde with lots of help from Bonnie. It gets silly which movie version gets it all perfect. The historical records and witness testimonies conflict with other stories. I couldn't find a description in her brief FBI history online whether she killed a police officer(s) or not. It makes little difference to the widow and children of the slain cops. Bonnie and Clyde were inhuman animals who both would have faced death in the electric chair if captured alive for trial.
This movie was done so well that it gave me Zero Dark Thirty and Patriot Day movies vibes.
It was also greatly educational in the historical background; never knew that a female governor encouraged the law enforcement efforts to track down these notorious outlaws.
It’s well worthy note for Ted Hinton being invited to their posse to identify them since he was both Bonnie’s and Clyde’s friend.
The car itself that held their dead bodies is now in a Nevada casino.
Interestingly, the romanticized 1967 bio movie of Bonnie and Clyde had grossly and inaccurately portrayed Frank Hamer; it eventually was sued for defamation for this controversy.
The historical Texan lawman himself was a certified badass; Hamer was also credited for saving many from and fighting against white supremacists/KKK, also he with others offered their services to the British King George VI against potential Nazi invasion.
Honestly, even with the inaccuracies in this film, it still had a happy ending. Other than learning the Hoover was a sissy boy.
Clyde's jacket had 45 bullet holes in it.
Bud, you better believe that Bonnie Parker did her share of killing. Or not...
Great video, you've earned my sub, chap!
PS, sorry about the copyright claims, that must be frustrating.
Thanks for the concern and support! Unfortunately since I'm such a small UA-camr there's only so much I can do about copyright :/
Damn Costner took film personal
Dont blame Warren Beatty
Watched The Highwaymen and Bonnie and Clyde. When I was a kid in the 70s ,a ‘34 Ford showed up at a fair in Reston Manitoba,claimed to be the death car. It was a two door sedan,and even back then I wondered if gangsters would steal a car that takes time to get in back under fire. Seems a four door sedan would be a more logical choice.
One thing I know that was never used by Bonnie and Clyde were Tommy guns. After they were killed there were no Tommy guns found in their arsenal. They used BARs and other firearms and from what I heard the BAR is an extremely heavy rifle and has a kick to it. Bonnie was a said to be a tiny woman, less than five feet tall, and not likely to be able to handle the rifle. Some historians speculate that her part in the shootings was she loaded the guns and handed them out. She likely carried smaller handguns, one of which she allegedly taped to her leg to smuggle in to Clyde during one jail break.
True, no Tommy guns. . .But Neither the BAR or the Colt Monitor have any great "Kick" (more than usual). In order to keep the barrel from rising on full auto, the dead weight of a BAR is specifically designed to counteract the kick of a 30-06 round. A standard 12 gage pump shotgun has 3 times the "kick" shoulder pressure than a 30-06 BAR. Conversely, the same 30-06 bullet in a bolt action Model 70 Remington has extreme "kick" , due to the light weight of the rifle and no recoil buffer spring mechanism. Watch Ian on Forgotten Weapons shoot actual full auto BARs and Monitors, NATO 7.62 M14s, and more , and watch slow motion barrel rise comparisons, and his commentary. And there are plenty of videos showing girls firing BARs, because shooting one is one thing, but carrying one around all day is another.
According to former gang members Bonny never fired a shot in any of their shootouts "but she was a hell of a loader". She was mostly the gang's cook.
Yes, the B.A.R. actually-WAS quite-heavy, SO-heavy, in fact, that American soldiers (among-whom my own FATHER was counted, since HE was a 75th Infantry Division B.A.R. man, in the midst of the Battle of the Bulge), could TELL YOU that the recoil-impulse from the B.A.R. was SO-MODEST, even despite its powerful .30-'06 Cartridge, that American Soldiers would literally hold this Automatic Rifle's butt-against their NOSES, in-order-to demonstrate the Browning Automatic Rifle's astonishingly-modest recoil-impulse. Nice-TRY, at some supposedly-valid historical-revisionism, though. NOT-particularly-"convincing," though, except-among the similarly-UNINFORMED. Good grief. Can't we get anyone-better, to "comment?"
@@johnstanley7442 You had a good information there regarding the recoil until you started trolling. I can appreciate the information your provide, especially from a valid source who handled it. However, if you wish to be taken seriously with your information might I suggest you keep in the historical information and leave out the sarcasm. Moreover, if you can verify that Bonnie did or didn't handle a BAR, this would be better and make a more sound argument, especially considering soldiers who at the time had meet a height and physical requirements which a small framed woman with no military training didn't or couldn't meet.
The Model of 1921 Thompson SMG is iconic, like the Colt 1873 Single Action Army revolver. To not have it in a movie leaves the audience feeling shorted. Bonnie did have a cut-down Remington Model 11 20 gauge semiautomatic shotgun (a variation of the Browning Auto-5), but whether she ever used it to shoot anyone remains a matter of some debate.
If you go to Google Maps and type "Bonnie & Clyde Death Spot" it will take you to the actual site. I visited the site this past October while in Shreveport for my job. It's less than an hour east of Shreveport. Standing there and looking around, you can imagine the events that day.
The specific spot with the markers on that road is elevated from the surrounding area, and is in the middle of about a mile of straight road. A car driving south from Gibsland (as were Bonnie and Clyde), would be in sight for a half mile before reaching that little rise. You can see that by zooming to street level on the map and looking north (towards Gibsland). The gravel area on the east side is obviously new, but next to that, and just south of it a few yards on the road, the area has a berm beside the road that is elevated about four feet higher than the roadway.
The story is that the southbound side of the road was blocked by Ivy Methvin's truck, which would force Clyde's car to move over closer to the east side of the road, and get him to slow down, as he knew Ivy's truck. At that time, the men on the berm would have an elevated position, and would be firing down into the car. For me, the bullet holes visible in the upper doorframe on Clyde's car supports this elevated firing position theory.
Whether you believe the part about Hamer standing in the roadway or not, this was a very well executed ambush, and the results speak to that.
As for the accuracy of the movie, and specifically how the ambush was portrayed, there are a few points that stick out for me. At about 7:37 in the clip above, you see the road beyond the car, but it curves in the completely wrong direction. Compare the actual road on google maps with that clip at 7:37 and you'll see what I mean. Then, notice that the cars in the ambush scene are oriented with the steering wheel on the wrong side for how we drive in the US. Finally, go to 7:22 on the clip and notice that all four of the shooters at the side of the road are firing from their left shoulder. Sure, maybe a lefty in the bunch, maybe even two, but all four???? Also, Costner is shooting lefty in that scene and Harrelson is righty, opposite what they do in any other film. What does all this mean? Well if we accept the often quoted comment from the stars in the movie about how that scene was filmed at the actual site, and then take into account that everything in the scene is completely backwards, it has to mean one thing. The film footage from that scene is reversed, loaded backwards, shown flipped over from how it actually was filmed. That's the only way everything works.
I'll be honest and say I didn't notice any of that the first time I watched the movie, but I picked it up watching this youtube clip. Good job to The History Squad, you have my subscription.
Wow!
Everything in this video was reversed to avoid copyright.
Definitely reversed, never thought about avoiding copyright violations. Good point!
You state that they act like the rangers have been gone a long time and they were never disbanded. That’s not actually correct. True the numbers of Texas rangers fluctuates during the depression budget cut’s reduced ranks to a total of 45 rangers and in 1932 the Texas rangers publicly backed governor, Ross Sterling for reelection when he lost the election to Ma Ferguson the first thing she did in 1933 was discharge all remaining ranges. So there was no active Texas rangers anywhere. That’s why she was against bringing them in to catch them.
Good work sir. Might slow your talking down just a tad...
Law enforcement of the time was embarrassed that they couldn't catch Bonnie & Clyde. Bonnie & Clyde were killers. Hamer and company were killers, too. No attempt was really made to apprehend Bonnie & Clyde. They were simply gunned down. Notably, no money, weapons or other valuables were ever turned in from the shooting scene.
Didn't seem they ever intended to try and take them alive. Clyde was lethal.. I think he ran armour piercing rounds in a 30.06 BAR... you can't take cover from that... the idea seemed to be to nail Clyde before he could get his hands on a gun
Hard to catch. No cell phones or Internet back then. The car they stole was fast for the day
Back then, when you write to a newspaoer telling them you have no intention to be taken alive, they take you up on the offer. Especially when you have already demonstrated that thru police killings. They should treat people in modern times the same way. Why wait until good people get hurt? You make a promise to kill people, you should be killed yourself. Thats what stand your ground is all about. Why should they wait until you try to kill again? You killed once, and promise to do it again, I think you should be shot at first site.
@@davealmighty9638 Clyde probably couldn't have been rehabilitated if he had been captured but he was horribly mistreated in prison as a youth. Can see why he didn't intend to be captured and sent back to prison. He and Bonnie were almost kids. Doubt they ever really had a plan.
Some of the local historians say that bonnie was the trigger happy one.
My grandpa made me watch this movie and I said this movie was shit to him, so then he made me watch it again
I almost think Hamer had the camera rolling all along but only edited the aftermath for public viewing.
Hope I’m right. What a movie that would be!
Good video, but you should try slowing down your rate of speech, and maybe enunciate your words a bit more. Not trying to hate, because again, good video 👍
I had no idea this movie about Bonnie and Clyde.
At the ambush, the lawmen used 2-BAR's, 2- .35 Remington's, and 1 or 2- shotguns, or one 30/30 and one shotgun. There is a photo of the guns used on the death car. The Lawmen did not use .45 Caliber Tompsons because they would not penetrate a V-8 ford body. as was portraited in the movie. Maybe one day they will make an accurate movie about Bonnie and Clyde. The lawmen ambushed and killed them both in cold murder. They were afraid to take any chances with Bonnie and Clyde. The ambush scene in the highwaymen is pure fiction on how it happened. Please check your facts.
Ted HInton's BAR was the only one used for the engine. Manny Gault had the only shotgun.
You wouldn’t know what Bonnie Parker did or didn’t do no one would apart from them !
Great point.
@@jackalister1662 of course I’m full of them 😂
But the trail of bodies gives us an idea
The Dust Bowl (extreme drought in Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas) started in 1930 and ended in 1936. Bonnie and Clyde were killed in 1934. This movie had two scenes with very heavy rain storms while the Rangers were in Texas, in 1934. In order to be historically accurate, they should have waited for clear weather to shoot these scenes.
Bonnie and Clyde did not generally operate in the region affected by the drought and dust bowl. That area doesn't have much in the way of banks.
@@DarkFilmDirector Correct, however, Texas was affected by the dust bowl drought and that is where Bonnie and Clyde were born and raised, That is where the Rangers were waiting for them and where it was pouring rain in the film.
you keep changing your profile pic lel
haha I'm still trying to figure out what this channel should look like-- you'll probably see my profile pic change again
My understanding is that there is no actual proof that Bonnie Parker ever shot anyone - the eyewitness who claimed she had been the one to shoot a wounded deputy was so far away he could only see silhouettes of 2 figures of which the shorter one did the shooting. Parker had been recently severely wounded and couldn't even walk so the actual shooter was almost certainly Methvin who was shorter than Barrow and was with the gang at that time - a known killer who got off 2 murder charges by helping to set up the fatal ambush. Also, in the real ambush there was no offer given to " stick'm up " - the posse just opened up on the car.
Great video
There are two photos of the car at the ambush site with a Remington 8 rifle, a B.A.R. rifle and 3 shotguns on the shot up car roof and policemen standing around. If you presume a 2nd BAR or a 2nd Remington 8 was the 6th firearm, then no lever rifle and no tommy gun were used. These weapons are not among the weapons in the photo of what was inside the car. Also the photos show the bullet holes in the front window glass as exit holes made by large mushroomed slugs (as compared to smaller primary entry holes in the rear driver side glass ). Ergo; No-one was standing in front of the car during the ambush. Hole patterns on the car door show a 9 pellet group spread from a 12 gage 00 buckshot. From which forensics can gage the distance the shooters were from the car door. The 9 pellet group has the holes centered in the missing paint chip, indicating the 90 degree perpendicular angle the shooter was from the car door, ergo; the first shots were shotgun blasts. The movie seems to show 4 men shooting somewhat "uphill" from a roadside ditch, which would put most rounds thru the metal of the door, But most shots were "Downhill" thru the glass. The victims were bodyshot but below the level of the window bottom. Other car door holes are "smeared", where the hole is not on center with the missing paint chip, and in a spray arc. indicating a full auto burst taken as the car appeared to start driving away, a low angle entry hole. Also, testimony said the very first shot was to Clyde's Head, presumably from the 35cal. Remington 8. The only semi-auto single projectile weapon, that can be verified to have been used by photo evidence. Although there are photos of Hamer with either a big magazine Remington 81, and a pistol grip Colt Monitor, no photos at the ambush scene show these types of weapons were present.
Ted HInton said he wasn't sure he could kill Bonnie since he knew her as a waitress. He was tasked to hit the engine of the car if they were going to escape. There is a line of bullet holes from the engine compartment to the driver's door handle.
There was no crossfire at all in the ambush. There was two men in front of the car. And a bunch of guys on one side of the road perpendicular to those two men. Everybody shooting straight ahead so there's no crossfire.
Frank Hammer did not step out on the car at the ambush. If he did, Clyde would have run him over. It was an ambush. I am not a Bonnie and Clyde lover but get your facts straight.
I highly doubt that Hamar or anyone gave notice to them but instead just began shooting. Either way it is a great movie with enough historical accuracies to make it well worth watching.
That scene with “hi sweetie” was the shit! Real or not, it was powerful
BUT remember something. Bonnie shooting people is an image of what THEY are being told. Which was accurate. Even the movie theater "recreation" where Bonnie shoots the State Trooper. It wasn't until years later that historians began to figure out that Bonnie never actually made a successful kill.
Wrong. Update your history, it's pretty eye-opening stuff
@@throttlegalsmagazineaustra7361 huh?
Excellent movie
It’s a movie, not a historical documentary.
Good video
You are wrong Sir- Bonnie killed the Police man. Fact.
Also Bonnie and Clyde did rob gas stations.
There were no machine guns used in the shootout of Bonnie and Clyde. Do your homework!
Just one BAR.
@@shooterqqqqThere is a photo on the guns used in the shooting of Bonnie and Clyde on top of the death car. There are two BAR’S in the photo I thought. I will have to find that photo and get back on this. Thanks for replying.
I liked the movie, I thought they did a good job for Hollyweird. I was at the Texas Rgr Museum, I found that Hoover people were mostly college grads, who didn't know how to shot or run and investigation. He recruited heavy from the TX Rgr's. As for Hamer beating up the guy at the station, that is old fashion law enforcement, it was usually done behind closed doors, but no one around works too. I think it would have been something they swept under the rug. Also after this movie, on wikepedia I think I was looking into it and they were talking about how many of the realitives on both sides who were charged with helping them. But all in all nice job
Great movie! Gamer carried a Colt 1911 in 38 Super the day of the shootout not his Old Lucky Colt 1873 SAA in .45 Colt!
You keep calling them Texas Rangers, they were not. Frank was a former ranger and the other character is a composite of of real people. At this time there were special agents of department of corrections.
Once A Ranger, Always A Ranger.
Believe in Jesus Christ and the blood he shed for you and be saved from hell before it’s eternally too late if you haven’t already.
Guns were accurate for a change
I think someone you may know is copyrighting you maybe?
Just a tip from someone who worked in broadcasting for over two decades: Next time you decide to do your own voice over for a video, skip the quadruple latte first. You're talking so fast half of what you're saying is nearly unintelligible.
Hey Timmy Shen Boy: Bonnie's leg was badly burned in a single car accident by BATTERY ACID! It "drew up" and she basically couldn't walk at all the last year or so of her life. Clyde had to carry her around. He walked with a limp too. DOPE!!
You don't know what really happened, now do you.
The death scene is a little inaccurate
I thought the same thing about the crossfire. The muzzle discipline for the police was sketchy at best if not downright deadly.
TrueGrit14 Haha true. That’s back when men walked off a gun shot wound.
As a former active duty USMC artillery officer who spent a lot of time on patrols with our infantry units, I had to respond to your comment. What Hamer's team did in real life and in the movie is called an L-shaped ambush. This is a very common and highly effective tactic for ambushing an enemy on a road/avenue of approach you know they're going to use. The crossfire is in fact the desired effect as it means there is no cover for the intended targets from your fire. The shooters are each assigned a zone of fire and given visual markers past which they don't shoot to avoid friendly fire casualties. Put another way, an ambush is intended to kill everyone in the kill zone. Real life ambushes almost always result in the targets being killed or rendered combat ineffective in the first volley of shots. Everything after that is the product of adrenaline and every shooter's desire to make sure the targets stay down and combat ineffective.
I would have thought that they would all be top marksman. Hamer hand selected the team didn't he? On the other hand, if they fired machine guns on full auto... pretty hard to control... especially those heavier calibres back then.
It was intended for Alcorn to light them up with a Thompson sub machine gun .45 cal and for Hinton to use the BAR 30-06 to take out the engine block from the blind, if they didn’t surrender on Hamers command(who was to Clyde’s 11 o’clock) however, Oakley being the most inexperienced with a firearm, beat them all to it when he fired off his Remington first, which started the hail of bullets. At least that’s how Hamer describes it in his autobiography?
@@TheBrucenz6 men from 4 different agencys & 2 States. Doubt all the agencies trained the same.
1.) You forgot to mention that during, the Bonnie and Clyde pursuit, Maney and Frank bring there instruments with them to play.
2.) Bonnie and Clyde were not killed that way. As soon as they stopped by to offer ivy help, they just starting blasting bullets.
Right. And they were never stood in front of the car waiting for them to give themselves up.
Didn't know they were musical... thanks
It's not a town. It's a Hooversville
Just watched this on a bit torrent channel. I know YT censors right-wing channels but yours?? Censorship in the US is getting way out of control. Thx for the upload!
My god slow down and take a breath. Even though, thumbs up.
0:08:25 What? The steering wheel in the photo is on the right side??? We’re not in England
Also it is totally verified that the 2 policemen killed were on motorcycles
As for the final ambush. Damn! Get the shootings correct They were initially shot at a 90 * angle
The car was in gear and when Clyde was shot, the car moved. That’s when they continued blasting away thinking they were driving off.
Go look at the actual movie reel.
Why can’t the movie get the bullet holes right? The windshield holes are only on the passenger side
Lastly. Politicians are all corrupt.
Look at our current Potato in the White House and his corrupt crack head son and the entire family. Grifters for almost 50 years.
I wanted to see Highwaymen but now. No thanks
They were viscous low life's, I don't believe that Bonnie never killed anyone, when u can kill up close personal u deserve to be out down
Wrong....the story isn't about Bonnie and Clyde at all....it about Frank Hamer
Ive never seen an historically accurate movie because movies aren't made that way. All writers and directors take artistic licence to make the movie interesting. The only historically accurate film about Bonnie & Clyde was done at the site right after they were killed.
Agreed.. it's an entertainment movie not a documentary
Do watch the Highway Men but also read Texas Ranger by John Boessenecker
For a movie trying to be more realistic than that actual original film , this movie has way too much made up bullshit in it😂 for example Clyde never bribed no police off !!!!! They didn't even steal large amounts of money from banks , they were just poor small timers , the most they ever stole from a single bank heist was about 2,300$ & they literally all had to all split it up 5-6 ways together as a gang plus they were always on the run constantly , they never laid low in once place for more than a few days at most & even that was rarely too!!!!! Most of the time they had to literally sleep in cars or in the woods at campsites that they handmade themselves!!!!! I read the novel "Public Enemies" & its the most accurate knowledge on all of this information about all the legendary 1930's era ban robber gangs!!!!! This is just a movie!!!!! The original 1967 film had its flaws that were different than this but it was also way more realistic overall even though they romanticized Bonnie & Clyde more than they should have in the original film but regardless that film is still more authentic & also a timeless masterpiece that single handedly created the R Rating in Cinema & the first to show actual graphic violence, this film is just.... "Good" at it's very best!!!!! The types of guns & gun sound effects is about the only more accurate thing about this film verses the original film😂