I'm glad the Greeks have some tax income generating assets left after Goldman Sachs' criminal activity (how do banks get away with their country wrecking activity) started the Greeks slide into ECB's asset stripping of Greece.
Money and Capital has no country. It doesn't mean that greek ownership benefits Greeks in the slightest. Greek shipowners OWN Greece. There are the only interest group that has successfully lobbied not to be taxed and it's written in the Greek Constitution! Their money is stashed in tax heavens.
Thank you Greece. I wanna now see if those who blamed and critisized their government for (financially) helping Greece in crisis will shut their mouth or what. Now we don't have to be concerned about sitting in the living room wrapped in blanket during cold nights of winter. 🇬🇷
Even if they shut their mouth or not, they will have to pay greece for the help, as they did, when Greece asked for help. They gave a very expensive “help “. Let’s return the gesture.
You do realise that Greek gas is for Greece use mostly and not ending up in Germany or most of the other major greek crisis lenders. I doubt Bulgaria was a big lender to Greece and it retaining a currency which had a value. Greece is also fortunate to be closer to Qatar and the middle eastern gas suppliers plus the new gas field finds in the eastern med.
the Greek energy tycoons made billions in 2 years and the Greek citizen pays the most expensive electric in EU. Because government closed all coal energy factories that used domestic stock coal mines to "save environment" and make some ppl billionairs
@@andreaberat3355 If you check the eurostat electricity price for household consumers chart, Greece is below the EU average. So its one of the best European countries. Even in the "Change in electricity prices for households consumers (%)" and "Change in natural gas prices for households consumers (%)" charts between 2021 and 2022, Greece is not the country with the highest increase. The problem for Greece is the prices for non-household medium-sized consumers, which they pay more than their European peers, as you can see in the "Electricity prices for non-household consumers" chart.
@@nick7807 lmao I’m not hearing what syriza says.It’s a fact Greece pays the most expensive electricity in EU.Not only the electricity but also petrol oil
In some cases Greece has a railway terminal dedicated to liquid natural gas where it is sent over Europe using the Zagkks LNG Tanker wagons since existing Zacns and Zags LPG tanker wagons are not designed to transport liquefied Natural Gas
I am happy Greece has these terminals too👍🏼!! I heard the Netherlands has expanded Rotterdam Eemshaven with terminals (fixed and flexible ships) as well as opened a new terminal site in the north of the country. I am really curious to the new technologies being developed. Solar energy is becoming rapidly cheaper and mainstream but for stable energy output, storage and multiple sources need to be connected. Hydro, piezo electric, thermal electric and wind energy systems are highly researched. I’ve seen crazy working solutions although not sure about the efficiency.
I worked for few years at Egyptian LNG … quite interesting industry… the most complicated process is to liquify the Natural Gas, store it and the ship it … the gasification (at the importing side) is way less complicated…
Greece with some of the biggest geothermal sites, with possibilities for true renewable and environmentally friendly energy, "ordered" to not use them, and import LNG from USA. This is not green energy, this is business! Read the scientific analysis on Greece's Geothermic fields from the greatest professor of geothermy Dr. Fytikas.
Germany is using the Belgian LNG terminal that is big enough to feed a third of Europe. Germany also has a floating terminal since recently. The price of LNG is still up to 3X more expensive in some situations ...
Import Russian Oil the problem will be solved,no need to suffer like this,otherwise U have Illegal lending, Inflation & the list goes on & on............
Without cheap Russian energy, all energy-intensive industries will shut down or leave Germany.. let’s wait and see how the German economy will look like in the future!!
@@jaja3359 BASF has already left for those reasons. Cheap energy was the only reason Germany still had a strong steel sector and many industrial production sites that other modern countries had lost. Chemical industries are also down right now.
The problem with LNG is that it is 3 to 6 times more expensive than russian Gas and its supply isn't enough to cover the European demands. Also Germany was planning to keep its fossil fuel factories until 2050 and not 2035...
Japan's LNG terminals use the cooling for petrochemical processes and extraction of various gases, cooling residential buildings would be easy only if the city already has a district cooling system like in the case for some chinese cities and some parts of singapore
I just saw a very American, superficial and incomplete news report. This plant has been there sinds 1999, so the Greeks have not errected it just now to save Europe. With no or little investments it just makes more money. Helas, even today this money goes to people who say they are running the Greek State, but as a local friend of mine said: Greece hás no state. Why don't you make an in depth report on that, CNBC?
At max capacity Revithoussa handles 11 shipments of LNG per month, corresponding to 4.3 TWh (terawatthours) if converting the LNG. For comparison of scale: The North Stream-1 Gas Pipeline to Germany alone had a capacity of 55 Billion cubic meters of Gas per anno, equivalent to 537 TWh or 1340 shipments (!) (most LNG ships are small or medium size, not monumental supertankers). This terminal will not be able to handle 132 shipments per Anno consistently (repairs etc.). At 5 times the price for LNG of the former pipeline-gas, what will happen is that all gas-dependent industries will have to disappear from the EU, as they are no longer competitive on international markets - and reestablish in the USA, China, Asia and Southamerica. Energy-crisis dodged, unemployment and debt crisis looming. Nice docu anyways.
I think with the prices of N/G getting lower to the pre-war ones, this you described is not really the case. You see I seriously doubt that an organization like EU does consists of fools
Actually it was (2007) 55 to 5,3 b.c.m. In other words, 1/10th of the Nord Stream capacity. Today there is an extra ship attached n there are expansion constructions ongoing...
Europe's entire energy structure is heavily dependent on gas. There's no other short/mid-term way around switching to LNG - whether the Europeans like it or not. This also heats up an environmental discussion - of course. But, as we found out while researching for one of our latest videos, the current boom in the wood pellet industry is a much worse alternative. For all the different reasons.
Import Russian Oil the problem will be solved,no need to suffer like this,otherwise U have Illegal lending, Inflation & the list goes on & on............
First they announce a new nato base in Ukraine. Putin starts a war and closes gas to Europe then Europe buys gas from USA in double the price. Well done USA. People will never forget this
Germany now has one LNG terminal that was built in less than 12 months. It opened last week. Nuclear power is now being looked upon as another source. Germany couldn't have made a more untimely decision to get rid of it's nuclear power plants, but then again they also laughed at Trump at the U.N. when he told the world that Germany and the EU were crazy to depend upon Russia for oil and gas.
Indeed. Renewables are a very diffuse and unreliable form of power. Subsidized wind veins and sun boards will never replace utilitarian, energy-dense, reliable, plentiful, highly taxed and portable hydrocarbons without civilisational progress going into reverse.
Revithoussa LNG certainly helped Bulgaria weather the gas crisis. As did Azerbaijani piped gas. Previously we were over 80% reliant on Russian supply. Bulgaria has now gained access to Turkish LNG terminals and booked significant capacity at Alexandroupolis LNG terminal which will go online in 2024.
So, there is NO drawback to LNG? No one cared to add that this process, having to turn natural gas into liquid, ship it half a world away and turn it to gas again, makes LNG also the most expensive?
On and on and on goes the reporting in mainstream media about gas as a bridge or transition fuel and taking a "balanced approach" while no mention is made of the climate destroying methane leaks that go hand in hand with using this fuel as an energy source. Heat pumps, RE and storage is the way to go in a climate emergency, but you'd never know it from this kind of reporting. One wonders whether there is pressure from the fossil fuel industry on the editorial angle at CNBC to normalise this madness.
The bottleneck won't be the LNG. It will be not having enough workers to facilitate the supply. Pipelines only need a fraction of the personal per cubic meter of gas delivered. And it's only one major sea disaster away from seeing how dangerous it is. Then the price goes up even more. Europe needs ways of smoothing out energy from renewables and a regional power transmission plan. Move industry closer to the sources.
I once had a discussion with an acquaintance from Europe that one day the US would be supplying his country with natural gas. He scoffed at the idea. That was 2 years ago.
You should be aware that in USA, even among the “petrolheads”, there’re those who oppose USA shale gas exports because it increases domestic natural gas prices (currently, today, $4 in USA if I’m not mistaken). And we in Europe should tread the red line very very carefully, because even if there are some USA suppliers that are eager to export shale gas, there’re some of “America 1st” who oppose USA natural gas exports (because prices go up) and they’re a very vocal group and you cannot easily reason with them. A destabilization of USA, because of energy prices increase, consequently exacerbating deep polarization in USA politics, this serves no-one in Western world economy. Again, Europe should tread the red line very carefully, in constant dialogue with USA government.
@@lv3609 After a year they go back to Russian Gas and tell the US to keep their overpriced product. But one hell of a lot of European Tourists will only have enough disposable income to support a trip to the Store. There goes 20% of a lot of US Hospitality business. But there might be camping spaces in Yellowstone.
@@danielhutchinson6604 USA have a powerful economy on their own, they don’t need Europeans. Just as an example, New Years celebrations had Carabeans overbooked, sold out from rich Americans on yachts, cruises and other. USA hospitality sector will be fine, the market for most part is inelastic, icons like New York, California, San Francisco. Incidentally, I live in Southern Europe, today I was waiting in a dentist waiting room and casually listening to this 2 girls middle-class one of them showing pictures of her trip to New York, the snow storm and the activation of “state of emergency”. I don’t think Europeans will return to Russian like before, if they ever return to Russian natural gas. The European industry will change, (and I hoping there won’t be too much de-industrialization), markets of energy and markets of primary industry like rolls of steel sheets, aluminum, chemicals derived from natural gas, these markets will rotate. USA will be beneficiary, but also India, China and Asia in general.
So we have pipeline that has been built and because of politics we have ships carrying it across the oceans chugging on crude oil, sounds very environmentally friendly.
Watched the full video and surprise surprise @CNBC there's no mention of LNG being incredibly expensive compared to pipeline gas. It has to be ultra cleaned and refined first, then taken down to -160C which needs a ton of energy, transported at -160, again huge refrigeration costs plus the leaks, and then regassified. LNG is meant to complement a country's needs maybe up to 5-10%, not replace it at a huge cost to the consumer. Meanwhile, Russia sends its gas to India and China where they make it to LNG and sell it to Europe, so what sanctions? Its a complete joke and the consumer / taxpayer pays for it.
A few things to consider : if you've got an LNG export terminal, you're not short of energy supply. Use some of the gas to power refrigeration plants, then export the rest. For example, Qatar exploits the largest gas field ever discovered (North Field) - reserves which dwarf the potential local market. LNG is a very effective and efficient way to utilise these resources.. Don't know what you mean by "ultra cleaned" as the gas produced is typically high 90's% methane (natural gas, C1), with the remainder being heavier fractions eg. ethane (C2) propane (C3) which can be extracted for sale as LPG. Leaks? from where? Any boil-off from the LNG tankers in transit (as the exterior of the tanks warm-up - despite being painted white to reflect the sun's energy) is re-injected into the centre of the LNG storage tank so LNG ships don't leak. Any leaks at the gasification or regassification plant would be both a waste and a danger so these are engineered-out. Regassification is not an energy-intensive process. Neither India nor China export LNG - neither has any capacity to do so. LNG is not a joke - it's a major gas supplier. I suggest you check your facts.
@@gplusgplus2286 'fraid the last time I had proper access to the relevant data was 2015 when I retired, but it was always cost-competitive, or it wouldn't have proliferated. If you think the green revolution is expensive - just consider the alternative, which would be catastrophic.
So here in Greece we give electricity to Europe. So why we have the most expensive electricity? Is not Europe guys u are alone is about power and control.
About a decade ago Greece was seen as a mistake by other EU members but now it’s realizing it’s importance. The EU is an inconsistent institution and a very unstable one at best!
@@Abcflc as a non European it’s interesting that Europeans are making a fus on gas for heat versus the moaning and grumbling I’m used to hearing for first world problems like not owning a BMW or a Loui Vuitton purse which are all made in Europe but most Europeans cannot afford!
@@bazingapuzza here is a clue, not part of Europe but still a territory within the developed world. A place with warm climate that attracts a lot of tourist which people think is the backbone of our economy but it is truly the presence of a military power that is responsible for rolling in the big bucks. Did you figure it out yet?
Griechl. im Energiegeschäft interessant. Die anderen Mittelmeerstaaten sollten auch neue Optionen finden Wert zu generieren. Auch der balt. und osteuropäische Raum müsste Neues finden: Archiol. Schätze, Bodenschätze, Energieträger, Rawmaterials ...
Much of the gas is converted to electricity. Increased profits could be made if the importers used the cold within the LNG to cool down the air going into engines generating electricity. A gas turbine generator, for example, can lose 10 to 20% of it's efficiency, and maximum output as air temperature rises, lowering the air density and reducing the inlet air flow to the engine. Inlet air heat exchangers, and intercooler air heat exchangers already exist for many gas turbines. Cooling the air, by transferring its heat into the boiling LNG, increases the electricity generated per unit of gas burned. Less electricity (or none) is also consumed lifting seawater to boil the LNG, so noticeably lower overall fuel costs are gained. Vaporising LNG using seawater typically makes the near shore water far colder than is normal, harming the local flora and fauna. So a second benefit is to stop this harm by not using seawater to boil LNG. This solution does require to site generators close enough to the LNG vaporiser. Ships containing up to 500 MW of generating capacity exist, and can be built that could use the cold from the LNG. I studied this in some detail a decade ago for a company that was designing FSRU's.
1 ton of H2 requires 18 tons of purified water. Why is it called green? Because it takes less than 0.035 kWh to produce 9 liters of pure water from seawater, and 50-65 kWh to produce 1 kg of hydrogen from this 9 liters of pure water. The problem with hydrogen is energy consumption, not water consumption! According to calculations by Michael Webber, associate director of the Center for International Energy and Environmental Policy at the University of Texas at Austin - based on the atomic properties of water - 1 kilogram of hydrogen requires about 9 liters of water as a feedstock. In one year, 60 billion kilograms of hydrogen require 541 billion gallons of freshly distilled water. This figure is similar to the amount of water required to refine an equivalent amount of petroleum (about 3.7 to 9.5 gallons of water are required for 3.7 liters of gasoline). Water treatment systems typically require about two tons of impure water to produce one ton of pure water. That is to say, what a ton of hydrogen actually needs is not 9 tons of water, but 18 tons of water. Taking losses into account, the ratio is close to 20 tons of water per ton of hydrogen. The problem is energy consumption, not water use. Seawater desalination produces 0.035 kWh per kg H2. Then you let the water burn again. However, look at the average grid water usage per kWh of electricity. Making 50-65 kWh to make 1 kg of H2 requires far more than 9 kg or even 18 kg of water. The problem with hydrogen is energy use, not water use. The lowest cost green hydrogen will be produced in the deserts of the western US where there is an ocean, so there is no shortage of desalination.
@@evelyncy1327 My comment was addressing a very low cost way to improve overall system efficiency , which also reduces the environmental burden of creating excessively cold seawater locally. Seawater is usually used to boil the Liquid NG so that it can be added to the gas pipeline network and consumed in gaseous form. The heat of vaporisation is taken from the ocean. The pumping costs money and energy, and has a detrimental impact locally. My comment has nothing to do with H2 production, nor desalination of seawater.
@@ibrahimtouman2279 Renewables are also a very diffuse form of power. Subsidized wind veins and sun boards will never replace utilitarian, energy-dense, reliable, plentiful, highly taxed and portable hydrocarbons without civilisational progress going into reverse.
Denmark is "normally" 100% self reliant on gas , these years our Thyra Platform is down for mainetaince , and should be up and running fall/winter of 2023 , but still only less than 1% of total EU usage , ,denmark dont really use that much gas per capita as other EU country's , so its gonna help alot but danish politicians wants to go green ,, so we dont really build out our gas capacity , coz i heard and expert talk about denmark could be providing around 20-30% of all EU gas , but so far we have many gas areas we dont use .. at all :) so EU make deals with Qatar for LNG and country's like that
I'm here in Greece I thought being on LPG bottled gas was a disadvantage, but guess what I can buy and store it whilst cheap. Something I couldn't do on piped natural gas
And Germany can escape theirs if they finally pay up the remaining of the war reparations and loans they owe to Greece! :) See? I can play that game too!
Actually Greece will always owe money to German and other central banks, because tourism, energy and transport/ship industries which are strong sectors don't help Greece's gdp a lot and the benefit for Greek people is minor. I was an officer in Greek owned oil tankers and i want to say that despite it's one of the highest paying jobs anyone can find in Greece, working conditions are awful, working even more than 100h per week, worst quality food, 6-8 months straight on board and when on vacation they threaten you to join again after 1-2 months or they will fire you. These companies don't pay a penny to the state except of the workers they employ on the offices, and few officers on ships, others are from Phillipines, India mostly. I left the industry and my country 4 years before and i work as a car mechanic in Denmark, and will never go back to vessels, or to Greece for more then 2-3 weeks a year.
@@birdakasiakwvos you were an officer in a greek oil tanker.....and you left to be a mechanic in a car shop in denmark....stay there patrioti .........really.....dont bother coming here for 2-3 weeks a year.........
@@panoscorfu1974 I don't have anything to do in Greece except of seeing parents and some friends, while other friends of mine Greeks or Albanians who grew up in Greece also live abroad and i take vacations on UK, Germany, Austria, NL sometimes to see them. Do you really know how merchant marine officers get treated especially when they start their career, as 3rd officers on Greek vessels? You'll never understand because you are an arrogant supernationalist thug who thinks that you are living in the best country in the world, despite everyone knows how corrupt it is in everything.
Interesting report, i say there is competition coming up Turkey as Gas and Oil Hub, Greece , Spain , Belgium, woow , my Kids would be interested in sustainabilty and cost can someone point out the environmental and climate impact of piped and US shipped LNG gasses and whats the timeline to turn LNG climaneutral? Can you tell us what factories and consumer have to do to run dirty LNG while we have ultra efficient equipment in terms of burnfactor and impurities, Last but no least the target price of 1-2 cent per kW/ h needs to provided otherwise businesses will continue to move
There is only one way, we should be self-sufficient by renewable power sources and have no need by external countries. Greece should and can do it! I'm hoping for the future!
As someone who lives on the European side of the pond it is wired to hear about gas as anything other another evil fossil fuel. It is amazing what happens when crisis brings reality to the forefront
But what alternative do we have ? I have infrared panels in my house but that is not enough. I rent a house, I am not allowed to put Solar panels on top of it
What are u even saying? Germany is the biggest problem child for once, but u are still angry that it got mentioned? Whats your logic? Did u even watch the report?
Import Russian Oil the problem will be solved,no need to suffer like this,otherwise U have Illegal lending, Inflation & the list goes on & on............
@@difficiliscarere9838 You obviously didn't have a lot of contact with Poles - otherwise you would know that they live in constant fear that somebody might forget them. It hurts their national pride. I am quite sure that Hubert wouldn't object to your opinion that "Germany is the biggest problem child". But the Poles also have a fixed terminal, just like Greece, Belgium, Spain, etc., so they want to be mentioned, otherwise they get upset.
This is only LNG Terminal, that means Greece still need to import gas from other countries. Whether you get the supply from other countries is another issues.
I am not worry for Greece or Romania. Worry about : Chehia , Hungary Bulgaria Germany this they are the most hard hit by gas demands. And no other way to import now
Not for long. The new pipeline between Greece and Bulgaria will be ready for use in a couple of months. This pipeline will also help other countries that are low on gas demand.
@Martin Baldwin-Edwards This is not true. I am from Greece. The price is actually lower than the EU average. But It's not about the energy price. Natural Gas has more uses than just generating energy. It's heavily used in the industry. Metallurgy, chemicals, etc.
@@Ukit50 The TANAP won't be for long the major supplier. It will work, until the Greek-Bulgarian pipeline is ready to carry natural gas. This new pipeline is almost finished and will begin within the 1st semester of 2023.
How about grexit? You can join a free trade union with the rest of eastern and south eastern europe. Greece will certainly be the major tourist destination in such a union that will span all the way from Greece, through Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary and Poland.
@@hanneskrogmann98 nah honestly I'm not joking at this point. The EU has turned a lot of these countries into EU dependencies, constantly pushing them into debt and excessive spending. Would rather have a neutral country (like Switzerland) that is part of 1 or 2 local alliances for defence and trade.
@@theodorbutters141 Then let me explain why i thought your comment was a joke: First of all, all of the countries that you mentioned in your previous comment are part of the eu. Poland, bulgaria, romania, hungary are all EU countries. So by going for a "grexit" greece would loose these free trade agreements which they already all have with eachother due to them being in the EU. Another part is that you cant negotiate trade agreements within countries of the EU only with the EU as a whole. Which means that Greece wouldnt be able to negotiate with these eastern european countries. Grexit would also hurt their tourism industrie badly. By leaving the EU, all EU-citizens(ca. 400Mio people) who want go holidays in greece would suddenly need a passport, have border controls and need to pay extra fees just to enter the country. So if a danish person wants to go to the meditaranian for the holidays why should he go to greece if he could go to portugal for less money and with less of an beurocratic hassle.
The fact that we are blithely talking about fossil fuel consumption when any year now we could have a population halving calorie deficit is just horrible.
@@AA-cf4es bullshit, its just that Putin is a little bit crazy with his imperial ambitions, Ukraine has a right to defend itself, Ukraine doesn't want to be part of Russia and wants to join EU&NATO but Putin didn't like it very much because prosperous Ukraine is his ultimate defeat
@@AA-cf4es The term proxy war suggests that the Ukrainians only act/fight because america wants them to. How incredibly naive can you be? Whether with support from the west or without, the Ukrainians would fight like hell to keep their independence. It is NOT a proxy war. The US is "only" trying to get the best out of this situation, which is kinda understandable.
Nuclear should only be used until renewable energy is sufficiently availible. It's not a question if, but when there will be a next Chernobyl, humans are never perfect
@@juliusmeindl6219 My dude nuclear energy is one of the safest and cleanest energy we have. You being worried about the next Chernobyl is like you being worried about leaving your house because a serial killer will get you. Hint: the chances of that are negligible and that's why if you take the necessary precautions, you should feel safe when you get out of the house.
@@blava3155 The difference is that I need to get out of my house, but there is no longterm need for nuclear power plants. The biggest risk factor with nuclear is the safety in a war, if only one missile hits a nuclear power plant, half of Europe will be strongly radioactive.
The thing with nuclear is that it's not suitable as a peaker plant. You can't switch it on and off that easily. So in a world where we are increasingly reliable on variable renewable energy, we can't use nuclear. It's also too expensive if we build it now. It takes 10 years and by then, we'd only need it for 50% of our needs. Not enough for ROI.
Looking past heating your homes, EU manufacturing will never be globally competitive again, your living standards will drop and high prices for goods will remain. Hope the Greeks are making a fortune selling to EU.
What a waste of accumulated energi. Instead of heating it with sea water. Transport it liqufied, then inland gasify it nearby a freezing facility or big ac units where the cold can be recoverd and used.
Sidenote. Most of the LNG tankers worldwide are owned by Greeks. Even the new LNG terminal in Germany is a greek one
Owned by greeks but registered in different flags
I'm glad the Greeks have some tax income generating assets left after Goldman Sachs' criminal activity (how do banks get away with their country wrecking activity) started the Greeks slide into ECB's asset stripping of Greece.
Not really, it's owned by Greek companies that pay barely any tax and hire a relatively small number of Greeks
Money and Capital has no country. It doesn't mean that greek ownership benefits Greeks in the slightest. Greek shipowners OWN Greece. There are the only interest group that has successfully lobbied not to be taxed and it's written in the Greek Constitution! Their money is stashed in tax heavens.
@@eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879 so what? The flag of the ship is not that important today
Thank you Greece. I wanna now see if those who blamed and critisized their government for (financially) helping Greece in crisis will shut their mouth or what. Now we don't have to be concerned about sitting in the living room wrapped in blanket during cold nights of winter. 🇬🇷
Even if they shut their mouth or not, they will have to pay greece for the help, as they did, when Greece asked for help. They gave a very expensive “help “. Let’s return the gesture.
It's not the time yet, but soon the light of Greece will engulf in love everything
This report is misinforming you big time.
You do realise that Greek gas is for Greece use mostly and not ending up in Germany or most of the other major greek crisis lenders. I doubt Bulgaria was a big lender to Greece and it retaining a currency which had a value. Greece is also fortunate to be closer to Qatar and the middle eastern gas suppliers plus the new gas field finds in the eastern med.
so true!!!!
the Greek energy tycoons made billions in 2 years and the Greek citizen pays the most expensive electric in EU. Because government closed all coal energy factories that used domestic stock coal mines to "save environment" and make some ppl billionairs
Greek people don't pay the most expensive electric in EU
@@nick7807 they do
@@andreaberat3355 If you check the eurostat electricity price for household consumers chart, Greece is below the EU average. So its one of the best European countries.
Even in the "Change in electricity prices for households consumers (%)" and "Change in natural gas prices for households consumers (%)" charts between 2021 and 2022, Greece is not the country with the highest increase.
The problem for Greece is the prices for non-household medium-sized consumers, which they pay more than their European peers, as you can see in the "Electricity prices for non-household consumers" chart.
@@andreaberat3355 just read the statistics and don't hear what SYRIZA says
@@nick7807 lmao I’m not hearing what syriza says.It’s a fact Greece pays the most expensive electricity in EU.Not only the electricity but also petrol oil
That's why in Greece we pay more than rest Europe
Once again Greece saves Europe
When was the last time?
WW2
I live in Greece and we are happy to help Europe get through this crises. Our islands are paradises and love to visiting every summer
Greece have a enormous of debt and I hope you now can pay that down to 60% of gdp.
In some cases Greece has a railway terminal dedicated to liquid natural gas where it is sent over Europe using the Zagkks LNG Tanker wagons since existing Zacns and Zags LPG tanker wagons are not designed to transport liquefied Natural Gas
We give outside and in Greece we pay triple price on energy
In the meantime Spain is like... "Hello? I've got the biggest infraestructure for LNG?"
It’s almost 100% full. Ships are wondering around the cost to unload.
Also, Greece has one of the biggest, if not the biggest merchant navy.
This is new capacity not pre existing and in use
It’s not properly connected to the rest of Europe…
Blame France for that. They didn't want to let connection happen.
well done Greece
I am happy Greece has these terminals too👍🏼!!
I heard the Netherlands has expanded Rotterdam Eemshaven with terminals (fixed and flexible ships) as well as opened a new terminal site in the north of the country.
I am really curious to the new technologies being developed. Solar energy is becoming rapidly cheaper and mainstream but for stable energy output, storage and multiple sources need to be connected. Hydro, piezo electric, thermal electric and wind energy systems are highly researched. I’ve seen crazy working solutions although not sure about the efficiency.
Love Greece 🇬🇷 awesome place for vacation ❤
Maybe europe wil have their loans back one time
@@m.k2593 maybe europe will reimburse for holding the immigrants in Greece and also Germany for the ww2 catastrophes
@@aflessas1295 so fucking true!!!!
@@m.k2593 maybe Germany pays back for the 500k people they killed during WWII and the billions of gold the stole from our government again during WWII
@@m.k2593 Europe is getting its loans back. Slowly but steadily. Its not like they are rushing us plus i guarantee you wont see a penny of that money.
I worked for few years at Egyptian LNG … quite interesting industry… the most complicated process is to liquify the Natural Gas, store it and the ship it … the gasification (at the importing side) is way less complicated…
Greece with some of the biggest geothermal sites, with possibilities for true renewable and environmentally friendly energy, "ordered" to not use them, and import LNG from USA. This is not green energy, this is business! Read the scientific analysis on Greece's Geothermic fields from the greatest professor of geothermy Dr. Fytikas.
At what cost Greece has one of the most expensive bills in europe
Greece have Oil and gas...But they dont let them mine and use / sell it....!!
Germany is using the Belgian LNG terminal that is big enough to feed a third of Europe. Germany also has a floating terminal since recently. The price of LNG is still up to 3X more expensive in some situations ...
Import Russian Oil the problem will be solved,no need to suffer like this,otherwise U have Illegal lending, Inflation & the list goes on & on............
Without cheap Russian energy, all energy-intensive industries will shut down or leave Germany.. let’s wait and see how the German economy will look like in the future!!
@@ibrahimtouman2279 Nice story, did you make that up on your own?
@@jaja3359 have you been living in a cave or something, because it seems you haven’t been watching news lately..
@@jaja3359 BASF has already left for those reasons. Cheap energy was the only reason Germany still had a strong steel sector and many industrial production sites that other modern countries had lost. Chemical industries are also down right now.
The problem with LNG is that it is 3 to 6 times more expensive than russian Gas and its supply isn't enough to cover the European demands.
Also Germany was planning to keep its fossil fuel factories until 2050 and not 2035...
It would be great if they capture the coldness during gasification to cool residential buildings, at least during the summer months
Japan's LNG terminals use the cooling for petrochemical processes and extraction of various gases, cooling residential buildings would be easy only if the city already has a district cooling system like in the case for some chinese cities and some parts of singapore
there isnt a network to support something like that here in Greece.
Europe wants to use natural ventilation as much as possible to reduce any generated cold by machines or other means which means more costs.
I just saw a very American, superficial and incomplete news report.
This plant has been there sinds 1999, so the Greeks have not errected it just now to save Europe. With no or little investments it just makes more money.
Helas, even today this money goes to people who say they are running the Greek State, but as a local friend of mine said: Greece hás no state.
Why don't you make an in depth report on that, CNBC?
Did someone mention specifically which Greek Island this is all happening on…did I miss that…is it Revithoussa LNG Terminal perhaps?
The reporter said that she’s at Revithoussa LNG Terminal.
@@eliasl.6902 Time stamp?
@@mingdianli7802 1:13
The island is called Revithoussa. It's not too far away from Piraeus.
The island of the terminal is called psytaleia
At max capacity Revithoussa handles 11 shipments of LNG per month, corresponding to 4.3 TWh (terawatthours) if converting the LNG. For comparison of scale: The North Stream-1 Gas Pipeline to Germany alone had a capacity of 55 Billion cubic meters of Gas per anno, equivalent to 537 TWh or 1340 shipments (!) (most LNG ships are small or medium size, not monumental supertankers). This terminal will not be able to handle 132 shipments per Anno consistently (repairs etc.). At 5 times the price for LNG of the former pipeline-gas, what will happen is that all gas-dependent industries will have to disappear from the EU, as they are no longer competitive on international markets - and reestablish in the USA, China, Asia and Southamerica. Energy-crisis dodged, unemployment and debt crisis looming. Nice docu anyways.
I think with the prices of N/G getting lower to the pre-war ones, this you described is not really the case. You see I seriously doubt that an organization like EU does consists of fools
Actually it was (2007) 55 to 5,3 b.c.m. In other words, 1/10th of the Nord Stream capacity. Today there is an extra ship attached n there are expansion constructions ongoing...
Crisp analysis
Europe's entire energy structure is heavily dependent on gas. There's no other short/mid-term way around switching to LNG - whether the Europeans like it or not. This also heats up an environmental discussion - of course. But, as we found out while researching for one of our latest videos, the current boom in the wood pellet industry is a much worse alternative. For all the different reasons.
Europe is having to do a lot of dodgy enviro book keeping to make things like burning wood chips to appear green.
Someone doesn't know what LNG stand for 🤣🤣🤣
Import Russian Oil the problem will be solved,no need to suffer like this,otherwise U have Illegal lending, Inflation & the list goes on & on............
@@heinaye3594 It stands for Profits.....
theres no long term solution either..its gas or nothing..or back to coal
First they announce a new nato base in Ukraine. Putin starts a war and closes gas to Europe then Europe buys gas from USA in double the price. Well done USA. People will never forget this
Putler thought he could blackmail Europe with his gas. He did not realize Europe can switch suppliers and can do without Russia for energy!
LNG is an important but short bridge. Clean ammonia import and local renewables are expected to begin offsetting LNG over the coming decade.
Green hydrogen without a doubt. We are investing in this industry.
LNG is so expensive, Germany will be de-industrialized.
No - German industrial products will get slightly more expensive in the medium term
That's why Japan has an amazing industry aswell right? Lmao
Germany now has one LNG terminal that was built in less than 12 months. It opened last week. Nuclear power is now being looked upon as another source. Germany couldn't have made a more untimely decision to get rid of it's nuclear power plants, but then again they also laughed at Trump at the U.N. when he told the world that Germany and the EU were crazy to depend upon Russia for oil and gas.
well doing also what US is telling us isn't smart either
Near Revithousa is my home island of Salamis and is tragic and shame that we don't have gas for heating and cooking.
at least we here in Greece have the cheapest price in Europe for electricty instead of the most expensive one according to some comments here 🤣🤣🤣
@@THCHHC Yes, and we have worse wages think better before write a commend ..
@@THCHHC we have the worse electricity prices not the best
@@THCHHC are you nuts, we have the most expensive when it comes to market sold energy price !
@@wakeno.6047 This is what I meant
It is time to forget about net zero by 2050. Perhaps net zero by 5020 is more plausible.
Indeed. Renewables are a very diffuse and unreliable form of power. Subsidized wind veins and sun boards will never replace utilitarian, energy-dense, reliable, plentiful, highly taxed and portable hydrocarbons without civilisational progress going into reverse.
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Either way oil will be over by 2070 if we continue to consume it at the same rate, so we have to find alternatives
@Jack Sparrow Next time don't waste it just put it in a bottle and then light it up to make tea
Revithoussa LNG certainly helped Bulgaria weather the gas crisis. As did Azerbaijani piped gas. Previously we were over 80% reliant on Russian supply.
Bulgaria has now gained access to Turkish LNG terminals and booked significant capacity at Alexandroupolis LNG terminal which will go online in 2024.
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So, there is NO drawback to LNG?
No one cared to add that this process, having to turn natural gas into liquid, ship it half a world away and turn it to gas again, makes LNG also the most expensive?
Putin: let’s check when the facilities on that island go offline. It should be real soon.
Very informative piece, Thank you.
Meanwhile in Greece... We have the most expensive Natural Gas in EU.
No we don't, we are somewhere between the middle
On and on and on goes the reporting in mainstream media about gas as a bridge or transition fuel and taking a "balanced approach" while no mention is made of the climate destroying methane leaks that go hand in hand with using this fuel as an energy source. Heat pumps, RE and storage is the way to go in a climate emergency, but you'd never know it from this kind of reporting. One wonders whether there is pressure from the fossil fuel industry on the editorial angle at CNBC to normalise this madness.
Heat pumps need electricity which comes from (mostly) gas at the moment.
The bottleneck won't be the LNG. It will be not having enough workers to facilitate the supply. Pipelines only need a fraction of the personal per cubic meter of gas delivered. And it's only one major sea disaster away from seeing how dangerous it is. Then the price goes up even more. Europe needs ways of smoothing out energy from renewables and a regional power transmission plan. Move industry closer to the sources.
I once had a discussion with an acquaintance from Europe that one day the US would be supplying his country with natural gas. He scoffed at the idea. That was 2 years ago.
Trump set out to take the market from Russia soon after taking office.
You should be aware that in USA, even among the “petrolheads”, there’re those who oppose USA shale gas exports because it increases domestic natural gas prices (currently, today, $4 in USA if I’m not mistaken).
And we in Europe should tread the red line very very carefully, because even if there are some USA suppliers that are eager to export shale gas, there’re some of “America 1st” who oppose USA natural gas exports (because prices go up) and they’re a very vocal group and you cannot easily reason with them.
A destabilization of USA, because of energy prices increase, consequently exacerbating deep polarization in USA politics, this serves no-one in Western world economy.
Again, Europe should tread the red line very carefully, in constant dialogue with USA government.
@@lv3609 After a year they go back to Russian Gas and tell the US to keep their overpriced product.
But one hell of a lot of European Tourists will only have enough disposable income to support a trip to the Store.
There goes 20% of a lot of US Hospitality business.
But there might be camping spaces in Yellowstone.
@@danielhutchinson6604
USA have a powerful economy on their own, they don’t need Europeans.
Just as an example, New Years celebrations had Carabeans overbooked, sold out from rich Americans on yachts, cruises and other. USA hospitality sector will be fine, the market for most part is inelastic, icons like New York, California, San Francisco.
Incidentally, I live in Southern Europe, today I was waiting in a dentist waiting room and casually listening to this 2 girls middle-class one of them showing pictures of her trip to New York, the snow storm and the activation of “state of emergency”.
I don’t think Europeans will return to Russian like before, if they ever return to Russian natural gas.
The European industry will change, (and I hoping there won’t be too much de-industrialization), markets of energy and markets of primary industry like rolls of steel sheets, aluminum, chemicals derived from natural gas, these markets will rotate.
USA will be beneficiary, but also India, China and Asia in general.
@@lv3609 The american hospitality sector is booked now because of the pent-up demand from 3 years of no-travel.
ExxonMobil decides yesterday to drill in Greece at Crete island for natural gas. Can supply Europe for 20 years.
So we have pipeline that has been built and because of politics we have ships carrying it across the oceans chugging on crude oil, sounds very environmentally friendly.
In Europe We do not have "energy crisis"! We Have a very deep political crisis with a very expensive virtual reality "democracy"!
Watched the full video and surprise surprise @CNBC there's no mention of LNG being incredibly expensive compared to pipeline gas. It has to be ultra cleaned and refined first, then taken down to -160C which needs a ton of energy, transported at -160, again huge refrigeration costs plus the leaks, and then regassified. LNG is meant to complement a country's needs maybe up to 5-10%, not replace it at a huge cost to the consumer. Meanwhile, Russia sends its gas to India and China where they make it to LNG and sell it to Europe, so what sanctions? Its a complete joke and the consumer / taxpayer pays for it.
The LNG sold to Europe doesn't come from India or China. What are you drinking? Vodka?
How much is human life worth to you ??? Not very much obviously .
A few things to consider : if you've got an LNG export terminal, you're not short of energy supply. Use some of the gas to power refrigeration plants, then export the rest. For example, Qatar exploits the largest gas field ever discovered (North Field) - reserves which dwarf the potential local market. LNG is a very effective and efficient way to utilise these resources..
Don't know what you mean by "ultra cleaned" as the gas produced is typically high 90's% methane (natural gas, C1), with the remainder being heavier fractions eg. ethane (C2) propane (C3) which can be extracted for sale as LPG.
Leaks? from where? Any boil-off from the LNG tankers in transit (as the exterior of the tanks warm-up - despite being painted white to reflect the sun's energy) is re-injected into the centre of the LNG storage tank so LNG ships don't leak. Any leaks at the gasification or regassification plant would be both a waste and a danger so these are engineered-out.
Regassification is not an energy-intensive process.
Neither India nor China export LNG - neither has any capacity to do so.
LNG is not a joke - it's a major gas supplier. I suggest you check your facts.
@@brianforrester7707 give me prices please, LNG vs pipeline gas. They didn't tell us the green revolution is gonna cost x10.
@@gplusgplus2286 'fraid the last time I had proper access to the relevant data was 2015 when I retired, but it was always cost-competitive, or it wouldn't have proliferated.
If you think the green revolution is expensive - just consider the alternative, which would be catastrophic.
So here in Greece we give electricity to Europe. So why we have the most expensive electricity? Is not Europe guys u are alone is about power and control.
About a decade ago Greece was seen as a mistake by other EU members but now it’s realizing it’s importance. The EU is an inconsistent institution and a very unstable one at best!
Lol you don’t know what you’re talking about
@@Abcflc as a non European it’s interesting that Europeans are making a fus on gas for heat versus the moaning and grumbling I’m used to hearing for first world problems like not owning a BMW or a Loui Vuitton purse which are all made in Europe but most Europeans cannot afford!
@@jon6309 where are you from ?
@@bazingapuzza here is a clue, not part of Europe but still a territory within the developed world. A place with warm climate that attracts a lot of tourist which people think is the backbone of our economy but it is truly the presence of a military power that is responsible for rolling in the big bucks. Did you figure it out yet?
Europe never saw Greece a mistake
What are you on about lol
Natural gas produces 50% carbon that coal does....it is NOT green energy...
Griechl. im Energiegeschäft interessant. Die anderen Mittelmeerstaaten sollten auch neue Optionen finden Wert zu generieren. Auch der balt. und osteuropäische Raum müsste Neues finden: Archiol. Schätze, Bodenschätze, Energieträger, Rawmaterials ...
Much of the gas is converted to electricity. Increased profits could be made if the importers used the cold within the LNG to cool down the air going into engines generating electricity. A gas turbine generator, for example, can lose 10 to 20% of it's efficiency, and maximum output as air temperature rises, lowering the air density and reducing the inlet air flow to the engine. Inlet air heat exchangers, and intercooler air heat exchangers already exist for many gas turbines.
Cooling the air, by transferring its heat into the boiling LNG, increases the electricity generated per unit of gas burned. Less electricity (or none) is also consumed lifting seawater to boil the LNG, so noticeably lower overall fuel costs are gained.
Vaporising LNG using seawater typically makes the near shore water far colder than is normal, harming the local flora and fauna. So a second benefit is to stop this harm by not using seawater to boil LNG.
This solution does require to site generators close enough to the LNG vaporiser. Ships containing up to 500 MW of generating capacity exist, and can be built that could use the cold from the LNG.
I studied this in some detail a decade ago for a company that was designing FSRU's.
1 ton of H2 requires 18 tons of purified water. Why is it called green? Because it takes less than 0.035 kWh to produce 9 liters of pure water from seawater, and 50-65 kWh to produce 1 kg of hydrogen from this 9 liters of pure water. The problem with hydrogen is energy consumption, not water consumption! According to calculations by Michael Webber, associate director of the Center for International Energy and Environmental Policy at the University of Texas at Austin - based on the atomic properties of water - 1 kilogram of hydrogen requires about 9 liters of water as a feedstock. In one year, 60 billion kilograms of hydrogen require 541 billion gallons of freshly distilled water. This figure is similar to the amount of water required to refine an equivalent amount of petroleum (about 3.7 to 9.5 gallons of water are required for 3.7 liters of gasoline).
Water treatment systems typically require about two tons of impure water to produce one ton of pure water. That is to say, what a ton of hydrogen actually needs is not 9 tons of water, but 18 tons of water. Taking losses into account, the ratio is close to 20 tons of water per ton of hydrogen.
The problem is energy consumption, not water use. Seawater desalination produces 0.035 kWh per kg H2. Then you let the water burn again. However, look at the average grid water usage per kWh of electricity. Making 50-65 kWh to make 1 kg of H2 requires far more than 9 kg or even 18 kg of water. The problem with hydrogen is energy use, not water use. The lowest cost green hydrogen will be produced in the deserts of the western US where there is an ocean, so there is no shortage of desalination.
@@evelyncy1327 My comment was addressing a very low cost way to improve overall system efficiency , which also reduces the environmental burden of creating excessively cold seawater locally. Seawater is usually used to boil the Liquid NG so that it can be added to the gas pipeline network and consumed in gaseous form. The heat of vaporisation is taken from the ocean. The pumping costs money and energy, and has a detrimental impact locally.
My comment has nothing to do with H2 production, nor desalination of seawater.
@@jerryjoynson We are working on the production of the hydrogen energy project, can I get your better opinion? Do you use other contact methods?
The EU has to 10X up their investments into renewables! Especially into wind!
renewable energy is mostly intermittent.. too much of it leads to a fragile power supply system!
@@ibrahimtouman2279 Renewables are also a very diffuse form of power. Subsidized wind veins and sun boards will never replace utilitarian, energy-dense, reliable, plentiful, highly taxed and portable hydrocarbons without civilisational progress going into reverse.
Once hydrogen is in place
Oil and traditional gas will not be needed.
Yeah yeah dodging energy crisis by buying LNG gas 4 times more expensive from our US "allies".
About time it helps Greece as well
Denmark is "normally" 100% self reliant on gas , these years our Thyra Platform is down for mainetaince , and should be up and running fall/winter of 2023 , but still only less than 1% of total EU usage , ,denmark dont really use that much gas per capita as other EU country's , so its gonna help alot
but danish politicians wants to go green ,, so we dont really build out our gas capacity , coz i heard and expert talk about denmark could be providing around 20-30% of all EU gas , but so far we have many gas areas we dont use .. at all :) so EU make deals with Qatar for LNG and country's like that
I'm here in Greece I thought being on LPG bottled gas was a disadvantage, but guess what I can buy and store it whilst cheap. Something I couldn't do on piped natural gas
LPG bottle is useful whereby pipe natural gas is not available in distribution network
Because of the energy involved in cooling and transportation, imported LNG has a carbon footprint roughly equivalent to diesel fuel.
well we could use the gas in aegean to minimize the transport cost but our neighbor Erdogan thinks it belongs to him
Great now Greece can escape their stereotype of always being in debt to germany
And Germany can escape theirs if they finally pay up the remaining of the war reparations and loans they owe to Greece! :)
See? I can play that game too!
@@georgedevries3992 benefits both sides i think they should consider it
Actually Greece will always owe money to German and other central banks, because tourism, energy and transport/ship industries which are strong sectors don't help Greece's gdp a lot and the benefit for Greek people is minor. I was an officer in Greek owned oil tankers and i want to say that despite it's one of the highest paying jobs anyone can find in Greece, working conditions are awful, working even more than 100h per week, worst quality food, 6-8 months straight on board and when on vacation they threaten you to join again after 1-2 months or they will fire you. These companies don't pay a penny to the state except of the workers they employ on the offices, and few officers on ships, others are from Phillipines, India mostly. I left the industry and my country 4 years before and i work as a car mechanic in Denmark, and will never go back to vessels, or to Greece for more then 2-3 weeks a year.
@@birdakasiakwvos you were an officer in a greek oil tanker.....and you left to be a mechanic in a car shop in denmark....stay there patrioti .........really.....dont bother coming here for 2-3 weeks a year.........
@@panoscorfu1974 I don't have anything to do in Greece except of seeing parents and some friends, while other friends of mine Greeks or Albanians who grew up in Greece also live abroad and i take vacations on UK, Germany, Austria, NL sometimes to see them. Do you really know how merchant marine officers get treated especially when they start their career, as 3rd officers on Greek vessels? You'll never understand because you are an arrogant supernationalist thug who thinks that you are living in the best country in the world, despite everyone knows how corrupt it is in everything.
What happened to all the promises of “green energy” Europeans spent trillions on over the past 2 decades???
Now EU can proudly claim that they don’t buy Russian gas!🤪
Not buying Russian Gas is a lie...........
The terminal at Zeebruges in Belgium has a lot more capacity.
Hi Athens , Greece , Ballan entreprises c.a.-Venezuela , Renewable Energies , all my best for the futur of our children . ( Afcharisto , Yassoou ) .
Greece is also building 5 more stations.
Interesting report, i say there is competition coming up Turkey as Gas and Oil Hub, Greece , Spain , Belgium, woow , my Kids would be interested in sustainabilty and cost can someone point out the environmental and climate impact of piped and US shipped LNG gasses and whats the timeline to turn LNG climaneutral? Can you tell us what factories and consumer have to do to run dirty LNG while we have ultra efficient equipment in terms of burnfactor and impurities, Last but no least the target price of 1-2 cent per kW/ h needs to provided otherwise businesses will continue to move
Most of the LNG comes into Europe via the UK is regasified and sent to continental Europe via multiple pipelines
Aah yes nothing better than helping my European fellas.
There is only one way, we should be self-sufficient by renewable power sources and have no need by external countries. Greece should and can do it! I'm hoping for the future!
Many thanks for the report,i am going now to the supermarket to buy 100gr of feta for 1.5€
we just delivered Gas in Revithoussa a month ago
As someone who lives on the European side of the pond it is wired to hear about gas as anything other another evil fossil fuel.
It is amazing what happens when crisis brings reality to the forefront
It is harmful to the environment not to use natural gas. Because if you don't use the gas, it will just be vented into the atmosphere.
But what alternative do we have ? I have infrared panels in my house but that is not enough. I rent a house, I am not allowed to put Solar panels on top of it
The European side of which pond? lol
0:18 do you mean the continent?
I love this video
Why on earth are they cooling the sea?
Why not generate electricity with the cooling?
the sea gets very hot in summer and tourists need it cooler
I love how you think eu ends on Germany, without mentioning PL fixed terminal great reporting 🎉
Poland doesn't matter.
Hi, thanks for your comment. We were featuring the Revithoussa LNG Terminal in Greece out of more than 20 fixed terminals in Europe.
What are u even saying? Germany is the biggest problem child for once, but u are still angry that it got mentioned? Whats your logic? Did u even watch the report?
Import Russian Oil the problem will be solved,no need to suffer like this,otherwise U have Illegal lending, Inflation & the list goes on & on............
@@difficiliscarere9838 You obviously didn't have a lot of contact with Poles - otherwise you would know that they live in constant fear that somebody might forget them. It hurts their national pride. I am quite sure that Hubert wouldn't object to your opinion that "Germany is the biggest problem child". But the Poles also have a fixed terminal, just like Greece, Belgium, Spain, etc., so they want to be mentioned, otherwise they get upset.
Germany should open a floating LNG port in Wilhelmshaven by January 2023.
IN service few week ago
I have nothing against LNG. We will always need it for industry etc.
Russia : send me the coordinates please (Red Salute)
Russia couldn’t hit themselves in the nuts.
@@jarrodgill7576 😂😂😂
Expensive oil and gas
What I'm worried about is her wearing a blue safety vest in a facility with all of that blue paint.
This is only LNG Terminal, that means Greece still need to import gas from other countries. Whether you get the supply from other countries is another issues.
Very interesting!
So why where they not using before all this ?
The UK has 3 LNG terminals and has been feeding Europe gas from these all year
Dragon LNG
Shipping expensive fuel from the USA to Europe where Europeans will have to fork out top $$$ for it. Very clever!
I am not worry for Greece or Romania. Worry about : Chehia , Hungary Bulgaria Germany this they are the most hard hit by gas demands. And no other way to import now
Germany has brought a LNG terminal online a couple of days ago and three more will come online in the coming months
Not for long. The new pipeline between Greece and Bulgaria will be ready for use in a couple of months. This pipeline will also help other countries that are low on gas demand.
@Martin Baldwin-Edwards
This is not true. I am from Greece. The price is actually lower than the EU average.
But It's not about the energy price. Natural Gas has more uses than just generating energy. It's heavily used in the industry. Metallurgy, chemicals, etc.
@@vasiliyt8600
TANAp Tran Anatolia gas from Azerbaijan that branch out from Greece Bulgaria inter connector is in service to supply gas
@@Ukit50
The TANAP won't be for long the major supplier. It will work, until the Greek-Bulgarian pipeline is ready to carry natural gas. This new pipeline is almost finished and will begin within the 1st semester of 2023.
At 1:39, why are they showing the leak from the NordStream pipelines in the Baltic?
Now Europe pays allot more for energy and China pays allot less.
We had this, while Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, Italy, hadn't any. And we were all these years belittled by merkel &co. And we saved their asses.
That's Greece's curse. Playing a critical role in Europe all the while hated and underestimated by the rest of Europe.
How about grexit?
You can join a free trade union with the rest of eastern and south eastern europe.
Greece will certainly be the major tourist destination in such a union that will span all the way from Greece, through Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary and Poland.
@@theodorbutters141 you are joking right?
Because if not i would delete this comment asap if I where you.
@@hanneskrogmann98 nah honestly I'm not joking at this point. The EU has turned a lot of these countries into EU dependencies, constantly pushing them into debt and excessive spending.
Would rather have a neutral country (like Switzerland) that is part of 1 or 2 local alliances for defence and trade.
@@theodorbutters141 Then let me explain why i thought your comment was a joke:
First of all, all of the countries that you mentioned in your previous comment are part of the eu. Poland, bulgaria, romania, hungary are all EU countries.
So by going for a "grexit" greece would loose these free trade agreements which they already all have with eachother due to them being in the EU.
Another part is that you cant negotiate trade agreements within countries of the EU only with the EU as a whole. Which means that Greece wouldnt be able to negotiate with these eastern european countries.
Grexit would also hurt their tourism industrie badly. By leaving the EU, all EU-citizens(ca. 400Mio people) who want go holidays in greece would suddenly need a passport, have border controls and need to pay extra fees just to enter the country.
So if a danish person wants to go to the meditaranian for the holidays why should he go to greece if he could go to portugal for less money and with less of an beurocratic hassle.
The fact that we are blithely talking about fossil fuel consumption when any year now we could have a population halving calorie deficit is just horrible.
you also have israel, cyprus and afrikkan supplies. even egypt has a YUGE find recently
Turkish cyprus yes and Turkiye also
@@m.k2593 no such thing as Turkish Cyprus it’s only recognized by Turkey. It’s illegally occupied Cyprus.
What's White South Africans got to do with anything?
Israel must push for EASTMED pipeline. Greece cannot persuade the us alone.
@@m.k2593 there is No turkish👎🏼 Cyprus👎🏼 my friend, there is only one CYRPRUS🇨🇾🇨🇾🇨🇾... THE REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS 🇨🇾🇨🇾🇨🇾❤️🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
you just showed why US support war in Ukraine
in few years we will see a uscsb video on a lng plant somewhere....
"The unsung hero" lol. Hero if its europe but dirty if it's any other country either than europe
You know us. We the Greeks are warm people
How convenient the US is now suddenly ramping up supply specifically for the EU markets. Nothing to see here.....
Soviets cut off their supplies.
yeah maybe that is because russia is an unstable trading partner
@@AA-cf4esEurope should have moved sooner. The war just sped it up. Thankfully shake has opened this supply or there would be much bigger problems.
@@AA-cf4es bullshit, its just that Putin is a little bit crazy with his imperial ambitions, Ukraine has a right to defend itself, Ukraine doesn't want to be part of Russia and wants to join EU&NATO but Putin didn't like it very much because prosperous Ukraine is his ultimate defeat
@@AA-cf4es The term proxy war suggests that the Ukrainians only act/fight because america wants them to. How incredibly naive can you be? Whether with support from the west or without, the Ukrainians would fight like hell to keep their independence. It is NOT a proxy war. The US is "only" trying to get the best out of this situation, which is kinda understandable.
Availability of Raw Materials and Gas Supply Become Key Factors in the Development of the Manufacturing Industry
Stop Ukraine! Because the gas shortage
Bye bye Russia!
@Martin Baldwin-Edwards Ha ha! That's funny! Why don't you ask yourself who is failing now?
@Martin Baldwin-Edwards For now it looks like Putin's plan to take over Ukraine is failing. Why don't you focus on that?
I sailed on lng. Gemini. In 1981 from the hairy Lundberg School of seamanship piney point Maryland. 😊
Extremely rare LNG W. Also, nuclear is necessary!
Nuclear should only be used until renewable energy is sufficiently availible. It's not a question if, but when there will be a next Chernobyl, humans are never perfect
@@juliusmeindl6219 My dude nuclear energy is one of the safest and cleanest energy we have. You being worried about the next Chernobyl is like you being worried about leaving your house because a serial killer will get you. Hint: the chances of that are negligible and that's why if you take the necessary precautions, you should feel safe when you get out of the house.
@@blava3155 The difference is that I need to get out of my house, but there is no longterm need for nuclear power plants. The biggest risk factor with nuclear is the safety in a war, if only one missile hits a nuclear power plant, half of Europe will be strongly radioactive.
The thing with nuclear is that it's not suitable as a peaker plant. You can't switch it on and off that easily. So in a world where we are increasingly reliable on variable renewable energy, we can't use nuclear. It's also too expensive if we build it now. It takes 10 years and by then, we'd only need it for 50% of our needs. Not enough for ROI.
Looking past heating your homes, EU manufacturing will never be globally competitive again, your living standards will drop and high prices
for goods will remain. Hope the Greeks are making a fortune selling to EU.
US don't sell LMG for free. They got Chance to sell their LMG at High price
What a waste of accumulated energi. Instead of heating it with sea water. Transport it liqufied, then inland gasify it nearby a freezing facility or big ac units where the cold can be recoverd and used.