Why stop at the 2000s, I'm hype for the eventual 2020s flashback episodes 🤩 Homer and Marge meet during the pandemic and give birth to Bart in time for him to grow up addicted to cocomelon and skibidy toilet videos
For things like this I support the fan theory that states that each season takes place in a different reality, the newer seasons/realities everyone was born some years later, it also explains why nobody ages.
There is the recent episode of Homer being a young Millennial graduating high school in either 1999 or 2000. (Putting his birthday around 1982). That makes him about as old as S1 Lisa or S4 Bart. Also, Skinner being a Vietnam vet hasn't been mentioned at all since S10. That's not a part of his character and hasn't been for over 20 years. They also recently made Grandpa Simpson a Vietnam vet and abandoned the WW2 connection. Burns is old enough he's mostly fine though, his age has varied from 83 to 104 to unknown 4 digit number.
The crash test dummies were not based on the band but the popular American commercial campaign that started in the 80's and end into the early 90's. There was even a TV show called the Incredible Test Dummies.
Ya know, it's weird to think about the Idea that one day, The Simpsons will run for another few years, that Homer might get retconed into a Gen Z kid XD.
I was an 80's child and a 90's teen. I dont have nostalgia for movies or TV and damn sure none for music. But that era of video games will always be special to me.
At least the 90s episodes gave us 'The Rachel' version of Marge's hair. She always looks great with it down. Also I think Homer is supposed to have a Caesar cut, like George Clooney.
2000s episode, where Marge is a sensitive weeb that does Inuyasha fanart, Moe is a white rapper, and Barney is a proto-incel. Instead of MacGyver, Patty and Selma are obsessed with Stargate SG-1. Selma doesn't realize that Patty is crushing on Carter instead of O'Neill.
Real life isn't like a decade-themed Halloween party. Real people do not mindlessly follow fads and trends just so time travelers can figure out when they've arrived without having to look at a newspaper. Some people will be behind the times, and some people will be ahead of their time - or both. I was still listening to music on cassettes in 1993, but I was also obsessed with edgy '90s comic books, which wouldn't start to enter the mainstream until a year later with the release of the film adaptations of THE CROW and THE MASK. Many a decade has one year that exemplifies the spirit of the overall era more than the other years. For the '50s, for example, it's (in my opinion) 1957 (Chevrolet cars/earliest rock music/"I Love Lucy" in its last season and "Leave It to Beaver" starting its first season). There's also 1966 (James Bond/Beatles/hippies), 1977 (disco/the Eagles' "Hotel California"/punk rock not yet mainstream), and 1985 (Madonna/"Miami Vice"/FIRST BLOOD and ROCKY sequels released). Having lived through - and vividly remembering - the entire '90s, I'd consider the most representative year to be 1993 (grunge/Bill Clinton's political honeymoon/"skater"-style haircuts on the men). Therefore, I'd guess that "That '90s Show" is supposed to be taking place in a slightly inaccurate incarnation of '93.
I'm 99% sure Futurama is being used here as a stand-in for the Simpsons. It's an in-joke. Simpsons was the Matt Groeing cartoon from the 90s that was everywhere and had lunchbox merch (Futurama is mostly associated with the 2000s).
Yeah the only good thing about That 70's Show is it was not a 70's show. It was a family sitcom that happened to be set in the 70's. They wrote good characters first then wrote a setting later. Everything that tried to copy the formula was too generic and simple, and it failed horribly. Freaks & Geeks was good because they focused on characters and story. Not "The 80's". Also we now have more time between today and Freaks & Geeks than time between Freaks & Geeks and the era in which is was set.
The Simpsons should've been allowed to die with some dignity in the mid-2000s. Instead it still shambles about 20 years later, an irrelevant husk of its former glory.
The Simpsons were part of the 1990s general zeitgeist, and those first 10 to 12 seasons are the best. Silly, desperare retconning like this should be avoided at all costs in my opinion. As far as I'm concerned Homer was late 30s / early 40s in those shows. The moon landing happened when he was a young teen. He should now be in his 70s. The show should have concentrated on the kids as grown ups from maybe mid-2000s onward.
According to the show's original timeline, Montgomery Burns was born sometime between 1890 and 1909 (they increased his age at some point in the sixth season, I believe). He'd now be at least 115 years old, or as many as 134, which would make him close to being the oldest person who ever lived. (He joked in one episode that his age number had four digits, but there must be a decimal point in there somewhere.) More realistically, him being the son of a Southern slaveholder, he could have been born as recently as the 1920s - which I admit is a stretch, but with much younger women as partners, men can father children VERY late in life. He'd be in the low triple digits now, then.
I agree with all 7 of your points. Except maybe I think the show could have just died in 2000 or 2001. After the 9/11 attacks America just felt like a very different nation to me and I dont know if The Simpsons had a proper place in that new world. The fact thats also when the writing went to shit kinda helps solidify my opinion. Kill at at 11 seasons and its an epic success like MASH or Frasier or Friends or some others. And people wont hate it for dragging on too long.
Kirk’s internet connection must have been really weak. Usually just the act of picking up the phone wouldn’t have any effect on the dial up connection. You’d pick it up, hear the telltale screeching, and then you’d go yell at the kid to get off the dang computer already.
I can understand some mistaking T.U.F.F. Puppy or Kick Buttowski as 2000s cartoons, but a juggernaut like Adventure Time is impossible to be considered that.
Adventure Time premiered April 2010 but had a teaser premiere in March on top of being originally created and airing a short in 2008 Tuff Puppy premiered October 2010 but was created after Danny Phantom ended in 2007. Kick Butkowski premiered February 2010 but was originally created in 2002 and took eight years to get to air but was a solid 2000s show each are actually 2000s shows, they barely qualify as 2010s shows especially with one delayed due to premiering as part of an anniversary special event
GOING TO do a flashback to the 00s? They already did an episode where homer is now a teen in the 90s, so it basically already exists. By virtue of homer being a teen in the 90s, he and marge got together in the 00s!
When this episode came out I thought, "Welp, it's official. I'm no longer the audience for this show," and I stopped watching new episodes. It boggles the mind that this was fifteen years ago.
I got fed up with them after that horrible season 9 episode about Skinner. Theres some excellent analysis vids of how the simpsons collapsed. But this one is still my fave: ua-cam.com/video/KqFNbCcyFkk/v-deo.html Its long but goes into excellent detail. And if you grew up with them from the first episode, its also a nice little nostalgia trip but not pure nostalgia. They analyze what went right and what eventually went wrong.
Or...if you go by the logic of the ABC sitcom, "The Goldbergs," the episode takes place in the year "1990-something," due to the fact that the episodes of "The Goldbergs" take place in the year "1980-something" and they make references to 1982 events, 1985 events and 1989 events in just a single episode...
I haven't seen that episode but there are so many references that I have to wonder if there is story or character development beyond the recognizable anecdote.
Maybe one of the worst episodes of any show ever. I remember catching it when it premiered and basically just picture the "welp imma head out" SpongeBob meme afterwards except I was thinking "yup, another nail in the coffin"
There is an episode where newlyweds Marge and Homer are trying to take care of toddler Bart in the 2000s. It basically retcons That '90's Show by once again updating the backstory to keep up with the times
I guess it's supposed to be either in 1991 or 1992, given that grunge rock is just being created. However, another big theme of this episode is political correctness, which would put the time slightly later. "Politically correct" was a term originally referring to how "purely" Marxist-Leninist a political movement was, and it didn't start to gain its current "sensitivity" connotation until 1987, when it was used with that definition in mind in the book "The Closing of the American Mind." What we now call the "woke" subculture was already evident in Hollywood films, as well as criticism of Hollywood films, in '91/'92, but political correctness wouldn't become a "mainstream" cultural joke until 1994, with the release of the movie P.C.U. and James Finn Garner's "Politically Correct Bedtime Stories." It was shortly afterward that I first encountered that word, and asked my parents what it meant. I was surprised to learn that its connotations are now more cultural than political.
I’m not sure if someone else has said it, but the salve thing around 7:30 is likely a reference to Dr. Drew and Loveline, a call in radio show about “romance” and medical advice. Using a “salve” was Dr. Drew’s frequent advice to dudes calling in about a rashes they got.
The Crash Test Dummies is most likely a reference to a series of PSAs which ran from 85 to 98 featuring talking CTDs Vince and Larry, who went on to have toys, a video game and a CGI film. We had several of the toys and the film on VHS growing up in the 90s.
I'm not the first person to make this comment, but it's relevant... When the Simpsons first aired, I was younger than Bart, now I'm older than Homer. Regarding "That 90s Show", I think it's just the writers having a bit of fun, it can't possibly be canon.
Goes to show how these characters and this universe were completely drained. I remember how i loved the 'future' episode with the kids all grown up and stuff, now they've made dozens of them. Every possible idea they could ever had was already turned into an episode numerous times. It's a soap opera, people grow out of it and a new audience takes over. What they need to do now is to replace the aging voice actors with new ones as this seems more likely to happen then to let this show finally rest.
One way that you could do an episode like this and allow the writers to reference basically anything from the decade without being anachronistic would be to tell a three-part story with the first segment taking place in the early 90s, the second one in mid 90s and the last portion in the late 90s. Any joke or reference could be worked into the segment where it would fit the best.
I’m on my first full series rewatch since I was a kid when I watched every episode multiple times. There is a noticeable shift in writing and subject matter around season 10, but I wouldn’t call it a drop off yet, a lot of these episodes I still remember as being classics, like The Lord of the Flies parody for example.
I hated this episode and a bunch of others because of Marge. She's always leaving Homer for something he said/did or for a miscommunication and then gets back with him at the end of the episode. If she's gonna leave him then leave him for good because I hate this TV trope.
"I would later find out that the syringe in his arm contained insulin, and he did in fact 'need it'" is still probably one of my favorite lines in all of Simpsons
I think given how long they’ve been on the air they’re gonna have to switch up the timeline for the sake of new stories. I think even if it fucks up whats cannon and what’s not I think it’s best they do some episode in time with the original timeline and some where it follows along with them being in there 30s in 2024
I wonder if this got retconned because I hate how it made Marge leave Homer for someone else because cheating isn’t something Marge would do so this made her look bad so I’m hoping this has been retconned
As a Nirvana fan something that bothered me about this episode is that the other members of Sadgasm are supposed to parallel the other members of Nirvana (Lenny is Krist Novoselic, Carl is Dave Ghrol, Lou is Pat Smear) but even though Dave Ghrol is supposed to be the drummer Carl is playing guitar and Lou is the drummer
They gotta stablish some sort of time altering device or something to keep messing with this shit. I swear soon Grandpa will become a veteran of Vietnam and Skinner will be a veteran of Iraq
I think the crash test dummy thing is a reference to the crash test dummy commercials that were widely popular in the 90s and spawned cartoons and video games
I don't know why people continue to be so up in arms about this episode. It was a pretty funny send up of the 90s, and I don't think it was meant to be canon (until viewers got angry so the writers decided to double-down).
This is one of my favourites episodes... Sadgasm is in my Top 5 fake animated bands... the 90s style and tone were mocked perfectly to me... those teen/young adult dramas... 90210, melrose place, gilmore girls, my god, dawson's creek... I myself watched Gilmore Girls, it was fun... but the rest... I was born back in the 70s so not much teen drama for me and the young adult was becoming just "adult"... but my younger sisters watched Dawson and melrose... and I laughed at them... anyway this episode bring back memories...
I think they should have established/implied a soft reboot after the movie so they could be able to do flashback episodes that don't contradict established continuity from the early seasons
Your autism is impressive, you really went all out on this. I think you might understand my indignation towards the retconning of Abe Simpson, yet again. They made him into some Chinatown meets Miami Vice 80s PI. No hint of senility or the gullibility of the original grandpa.
I’m not gonna lie, but the Sadgasm songs and the Weird Al Parody Of a Parody really wants me to listen to the full parody songs even if they’re parody of Nirvana music.
Based on this information I would really love for the eventual finale to troll the fan base by incorporating different fan theories over time, like Homer being in a coma throughout the show due to the poisonous fish all the way back in the earlier seasons.
trying to figure out the timeline of the simpsons is like trying to figure out how doctor who and the powerrangers and the x-files and friends and 24 and the walking dead can all be set in the same realality/universe.
I would say this just reference episode, and those can be over bloated themselves, if they just throw everything blindly. Mostly overuse "Memberberries" with no good sense. like mixing Chinese and Japanese clothes in an "American kung-fu" film because it looks Asian without context, not if it the context is parody or satire.
also: if you ask permission from SEGA to use Sonic characters, if you wanted a timeline accurate version of Sonic's Girlfriend, you would need to ask ARCHIE for permission to use Sally Acorn and she's a bit too naked for 9PM on Sundays when the family runs from whatever they were doing to gather on the couch and have something silly happen to them, for your family at home on your very own couch to watch and laugh together. maybe check the comics for when Amy Rose appears and gets her redesign and notable Amy Rose moments from the comics that take place after Sonic CD but before Sonic Adventure.
Good to see I'm not alone in hating this episode. The writers justifications are the worst. It always boils down to "oh yeah, well you're a huge nerd for noticing how bad our writing is."
Honestly it's on the nose. People look way too deep into stuff like this. People complain about how the show fell off yet always tune in to complain about it. Gotta give them props for some unintentional trolling, it's hilarious seeing people mald over something unimportant as what goes on in a cartoon.
@@Channeleven2345789 I disagree. If that's true then what does that say about the writers? Shouldn't you take your job seriously, no matter what it is? That's a cop out. We're talking about a beloved show that has been around for decades. Not a sloppily written high school English assignment. It's lazy and bad writing.
@@brianboese9884 Right, but what can anyone really do about it? The Simpsons is never gonna stop. I agree the older episodes are better, but I don't stress about it, like so many do, because what's that gonna get anyone, some steam let out? Some people (the writers) just want to have fun, mess with people's heads, and though some may take it personally they really shouldn't, because no matter how bad it is, the show is gonna keep going, and honestly I'm getting tired of holding out for a miracle that's never gonna come.
@@brianboese9884 probably for the same reason people are watching the newer Simpsons episodes if they don’t like the quality of them. It goes both ways.
There will be an episode where Homer tells the story of how he was long distance dating Marge during the pandemic while there were on High school and sending her a fortnite dance video asking her to ciber prom and theres nothing any of us can do to stop it
They should have had a scene of Homer and Marge watching The Simpsons.
"Boooooring. This show won't even last one season. *changes channel*"
or the Tracey Ullman Show
@@radrobd123 i think theyve done a tracey ulman show reference before
The Simpsons itself is just so quintessentially 90's, even today. This just doesn't work.
Why stop at the 2000s, I'm hype for the eventual 2020s flashback episodes 🤩 Homer and Marge meet during the pandemic and give birth to Bart in time for him to grow up addicted to cocomelon and skibidy toilet videos
I love how satirical AND serious this comment is. You've earned a beer and a skibidy toilet video, enjoy!
If the show continues for the next decade, this is definitelly happening at some point.
I just threw up in my mouth
I wanted this show to die off in 2000. So for me it doesnt matter. Do whatever wacky stupid shit you want. It cant hurt me anymore.
In the not too distant future Bart will have been conceived during the Covid pandemic lockdowns...
I hated this retcon so much, especially since the Simpsons were huge pop culture icons of the 90’s
For things like this I support the fan theory that states that each season takes place in a different reality, the newer seasons/realities everyone was born some years later, it also explains why nobody ages.
I like the theory that it's a fictional cartoon and we're not viewing actual events occurring in a real world
There is the recent episode of Homer being a young Millennial graduating high school in either 1999 or 2000. (Putting his birthday around 1982). That makes him about as old as S1 Lisa or S4 Bart. Also, Skinner being a Vietnam vet hasn't been mentioned at all since S10. That's not a part of his character and hasn't been for over 20 years. They also recently made Grandpa Simpson a Vietnam vet and abandoned the WW2 connection. Burns is old enough he's mostly fine though, his age has varied from 83 to 104 to unknown 4 digit number.
They made Grandpa a Vietnam vet?When?His entire personality is built around his WW2 service. So that means Skinner is what now?
@@florinivan6907 Gulf War, maybe?
Whenever you notice these kind of these kind of things , a wizard did it
The crash test dummies were not based on the band but the popular American commercial campaign that started in the 80's and end into the early 90's. There was even a TV show called the Incredible Test Dummies.
They even had their own toy line of dismemberable action figures.
@@capacamaru I vaguely remember that! God I'm old.
Ya know, it's weird to think about the Idea that one day, The Simpsons will run for another few years, that Homer might get retconed into a Gen Z kid XD.
Zomer
Wait until Gen Alpha Homer
@@TheNerevahkiin i can already imagine Homer saying stuff like "Remember my Awesome Skibidi Rizz Marge!"
...ew
That Gaming in the Clinton Years reference really threw me. Feels like you unlocked a hidden memory in my brain lol
I was an 80's child and a 90's teen. I dont have nostalgia for movies or TV and damn sure none for music. But that era of video games will always be special to me.
At least the 90s episodes gave us 'The Rachel' version of Marge's hair. She always looks great with it down. Also I think Homer is supposed to have a Caesar cut, like George Clooney.
2000s episode, where Marge is a sensitive weeb that does Inuyasha fanart, Moe is a white rapper, and Barney is a proto-incel.
Instead of MacGyver, Patty and Selma are obsessed with Stargate SG-1. Selma doesn't realize that Patty is crushing on Carter instead of O'Neill.
Real life isn't like a decade-themed Halloween party. Real people do not mindlessly follow fads and trends just so time travelers can figure out when they've arrived without having to look at a newspaper. Some people will be behind the times, and some people will be ahead of their time - or both. I was still listening to music on cassettes in 1993, but I was also obsessed with edgy '90s comic books, which wouldn't start to enter the mainstream until a year later with the release of the film adaptations of THE CROW and THE MASK.
Many a decade has one year that exemplifies the spirit of the overall era more than the other years. For the '50s, for example, it's (in my opinion) 1957 (Chevrolet cars/earliest rock music/"I Love Lucy" in its last season and "Leave It to Beaver" starting its first season). There's also 1966 (James Bond/Beatles/hippies), 1977 (disco/the Eagles' "Hotel California"/punk rock not yet mainstream), and 1985 (Madonna/"Miami Vice"/FIRST BLOOD and ROCKY sequels released). Having lived through - and vividly remembering - the entire '90s, I'd consider the most representative year to be 1993 (grunge/Bill Clinton's political honeymoon/"skater"-style haircuts on the men). Therefore, I'd guess that "That '90s Show" is supposed to be taking place in a slightly inaccurate incarnation of '93.
I was a 90's teen and for me 1993 was definitely memorable, but mostly with the video games and less with movies and TV and fashion and music.
I'm 99% sure Futurama is being used here as a stand-in for the Simpsons. It's an in-joke. Simpsons was the Matt Groeing cartoon from the 90s that was everywhere and had lunchbox merch (Futurama is mostly associated with the 2000s).
"That 90s Show" episode, aka how much 90s shite can we shove in a 22 minute episode.
Yeah the only good thing about That 70's Show is it was not a 70's show. It was a family sitcom that happened to be set in the 70's. They wrote good characters first then wrote a setting later. Everything that tried to copy the formula was too generic and simple, and it failed horribly.
Freaks & Geeks was good because they focused on characters and story. Not "The 80's".
Also we now have more time between today and Freaks & Geeks than time between Freaks & Geeks and the era in which is was set.
12:48 Wow, that Gaming in the Clinton Years bit unlocked some deep memories in me. I used to watch the hell out of those reviews when I was 12
The Simpsons should've been allowed to die with some dignity in the mid-2000s. Instead it still shambles about 20 years later, an irrelevant husk of its former glory.
just like youtube
When The Simpsons Movie came out in 2007, a lot of people thought the series would came to an end a sometime after. God I wish they were right.
Can confirm, everyone thought the movie was the (already overdue) end of the show.
Simpsons lost all its dignity when Homer got graped by a panda, in late 2000
@@joeyjo-joshabadu9636 no, I think The Simpsons lost their dignity when they sucked off Lady Gaga for half-an-hour.
Nonsense. The most infamous retcon is Principle Tamzarian.
I like that episode.
There have been so many bad Simpsons episodes since The Principle and the Pauper.
The Simpsons were part of the 1990s general zeitgeist, and those first 10 to 12 seasons are the best. Silly, desperare retconning like this should be avoided at all costs in my opinion. As far as I'm concerned Homer was late 30s / early 40s in those shows. The moon landing happened when he was a young teen. He should now be in his 70s. The show should have concentrated on the kids as grown ups from maybe mid-2000s onward.
According to the show's original timeline, Montgomery Burns was born sometime between 1890 and 1909 (they increased his age at some point in the sixth season, I believe). He'd now be at least 115 years old, or as many as 134, which would make him close to being the oldest person who ever lived. (He joked in one episode that his age number had four digits, but there must be a decimal point in there somewhere.) More realistically, him being the son of a Southern slaveholder, he could have been born as recently as the 1920s - which I admit is a stretch, but with much younger women as partners, men can father children VERY late in life. He'd be in the low triple digits now, then.
they should just have kept them the same ages born the same time. the show itself has made the joke that cartoons dont have to make sense.
I agree with all 7 of your points. Except maybe I think the show could have just died in 2000 or 2001. After the 9/11 attacks America just felt like a very different nation to me and I dont know if The Simpsons had a proper place in that new world. The fact thats also when the writing went to shit kinda helps solidify my opinion. Kill at at 11 seasons and its an epic success like MASH or Frasier or Friends or some others. And people wont hate it for dragging on too long.
Kirk’s internet connection must have been really weak. Usually just the act of picking up the phone wouldn’t have any effect on the dial up connection. You’d pick it up, hear the telltale screeching, and then you’d go yell at the kid to get off the dang computer already.
I can understand some mistaking T.U.F.F. Puppy or Kick Buttowski as 2000s cartoons, but a juggernaut like Adventure Time is impossible to be considered that.
Unless you’re referring to it having originally been a segment on Oh Yeah! Cartoons
Being mindless drivel that just keeps dragging on and on, yeah, it's a crap show
Adventure Time premiered April 2010 but had a teaser premiere in March on top of being originally created and airing a short in 2008
Tuff Puppy premiered October 2010 but was created after Danny Phantom ended in 2007.
Kick Butkowski premiered February 2010 but was originally created in 2002 and took eight years to get to air but was a solid 2000s show
each are actually 2000s shows, they barely qualify as 2010s shows especially with one delayed due to premiering as part of an anniversary special event
@@sheehase What does that have to do with people confusing Adventure Time for a 2000s show?
Technically, we’re still in the 2000s. It’s a century, not a decade.
GOING TO do a flashback to the 00s?
They already did an episode where homer is now a teen in the 90s, so it basically already exists. By virtue of homer being a teen in the 90s, he and marge got together in the 00s!
Noooo, they still have plenty of "eras" to put the simpsons in. More work to do. More lives to ruin.
aww man you've gone and made me nostalgic for the 90s. life was better when there was free goo on the streets.
@12:00 Actually I think that is reference to The Crash Test Dummies PSA commercials which were pretty popular back then, like getting toys popular
Right. They hit their peak as a cultural phenomenon in 1992.
The Incredible Crash Dummies! 😂❤ I loved those guys! Had a couple of the toys when I was young.
"That isn't a dummy!"
*"THIS EXHIBIT IS CLOSED"*
They also had a cartoon series in the 90s
@@jimihendricks5602 They had a PILOT for a cartoon series, sadly.
When this episode came out I thought, "Welp, it's official. I'm no longer the audience for this show," and I stopped watching new episodes. It boggles the mind that this was fifteen years ago.
Nothing after season 15 counts as reality or canon. They're just treading water.
cant wait until season 60 where they flashback to homer and marge meeting in the 2020s and homer says "skibidi" without a single hint of irony
Literally the episode that got me to say, "Fuck this!" to The Simpsons. You may not want to complain about its existence but I do.
I got fed up with them after that horrible season 9 episode about Skinner. Theres some excellent analysis vids of how the simpsons collapsed. But this one is still my fave:
ua-cam.com/video/KqFNbCcyFkk/v-deo.html
Its long but goes into excellent detail. And if you grew up with them from the first episode, its also a nice little nostalgia trip but not pure nostalgia. They analyze what went right and what eventually went wrong.
Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder...
Or...if you go by the logic of the ABC sitcom, "The Goldbergs," the episode takes place in the year "1990-something," due to the fact that the episodes of "The Goldbergs" take place in the year "1980-something" and they make references to 1982 events, 1985 events and 1989 events in just a single episode...
I haven't seen that episode but there are so many references that I have to wonder if there is story or character development beyond the recognizable anecdote.
"the soup- the no soup for you episode" i love that lmao
My guy. It's the Simpsons.
Remember, with all the inconsistencies….a wizard did it.
Maybe one of the worst episodes of any show ever. I remember catching it when it premiered and basically just picture the "welp imma head out" SpongeBob meme afterwards except I was thinking "yup, another nail in the coffin"
They had an episode recently where Homer was a millennial who liked rap and worked at a pizza parler
Did they ever have one where you knew how to spell simple words?
At least when King of the Hill was still on until 2010 it still keep its continuity of being relatively early 2000’s.
someday, Homer Simpson will be a zoomer who grew up as an ipad baby
There is an episode where newlyweds Marge and Homer are trying to take care of toddler Bart in the 2000s. It basically retcons That '90's Show by once again updating the backstory to keep up with the times
the problem with these types of "90s episodes" is that the early 90s and late 90s are completely different realities
Same goes to Mid 90s
@@ShockwaveFPSStudios true true
I don’t think The Simpsons is meant to be taken this seriously.
This whole video is just "Boy, I sure hope someone got fired for that blunder." and I love it.
I’ve always wondered what year this episode was set in. Good video, I’ve looked at the clues myself in the past
I guess it's supposed to be either in 1991 or 1992, given that grunge rock is just being created. However, another big theme of this episode is political correctness, which would put the time slightly later. "Politically correct" was a term originally referring to how "purely" Marxist-Leninist a political movement was, and it didn't start to gain its current "sensitivity" connotation until 1987, when it was used with that definition in mind in the book "The Closing of the American Mind." What we now call the "woke" subculture was already evident in Hollywood films, as well as criticism of Hollywood films, in '91/'92, but political correctness wouldn't become a "mainstream" cultural joke until 1994, with the release of the movie P.C.U. and James Finn Garner's "Politically Correct Bedtime Stories." It was shortly afterward that I first encountered that word, and asked my parents what it meant. I was surprised to learn that its connotations are now more cultural than political.
I’m not sure if someone else has said it, but the salve thing around 7:30 is likely a reference to Dr. Drew and Loveline, a call in radio show about “romance” and medical advice. Using a “salve” was Dr. Drew’s frequent advice to dudes calling in about a rashes they got.
2:14 "Nice fella. Wonder if he's gay?"
It took part in the year 199X
The gaming in the Clinton years bit scared me I hadn’t seen it in so long
The Crash Test Dummies is most likely a reference to a series of PSAs which ran from 85 to 98 featuring talking CTDs Vince and Larry, who went on to have toys, a video game and a CGI film. We had several of the toys and the film on VHS growing up in the 90s.
Oh, man. I wasn't expecting you to reference Navigatr Gaming In The Clinton Years lol
I'm not the first person to make this comment, but it's relevant... When the Simpsons first aired, I was younger than Bart, now I'm older than Homer.
Regarding "That 90s Show", I think it's just the writers having a bit of fun, it can't possibly be canon.
Goes to show how these characters and this universe were completely drained.
I remember how i loved the 'future' episode with the kids all grown up and stuff, now they've made dozens of them.
Every possible idea they could ever had was already turned into an episode numerous times. It's a soap opera, people grow out of it and a new audience takes over. What they need to do now is to replace the aging voice actors with new ones as this seems more likely to happen then to let this show finally rest.
One way that you could do an episode like this and allow the writers to reference basically anything from the decade without being anachronistic would be to tell a three-part story with the first segment taking place in the early 90s, the second one in mid 90s and the last portion in the late 90s. Any joke or reference could be worked into the segment where it would fit the best.
I’m on my first full series rewatch since I was a kid when I watched every episode multiple times. There is a noticeable shift in writing and subject matter around season 10, but I wouldn’t call it a drop off yet, a lot of these episodes I still remember as being classics, like The Lord of the Flies parody for example.
I'm so old I've gone from identifying with Bart to identifying with Homer. And Abe Simpson is waiting in the wings.
I hated this episode and a bunch of others because of Marge. She's always leaving Homer for something he said/did or for a miscommunication and then gets back with him at the end of the episode. If she's gonna leave him then leave him for good because I hate this TV trope.
"I would later find out that the syringe in his arm contained insulin, and he did in fact 'need it'" is still probably one of my favorite lines in all of Simpsons
Literal crash test dummies as cartoon characters also had big commercial fame around the late 80s early 90s and were used for a lot of crap lol
How can you guess 1995 when there were several things that could have only been known later in that decade? Earliest it can be is 1997.
props to them for taking Cobain to task and demystifying his struggles
They used Amy’s Dreamcast design? Boy I hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
I wish they would have stopped doing flash back episodes, there are creating contradictions within the Simpsons universe.
There's a furby watching X-Files behind you right now... don't look! Just run!!!
I think given how long they’ve been on the air they’re gonna have to switch up the timeline for the sake of new stories. I think even if it fucks up whats cannon and what’s not I think it’s best they do some episode in time with the original timeline and some where it follows along with them being in there 30s in 2024
The transition is too gradual for this to be true but I consider the show to have been rebooted once they switched to HD format.
I wonder if this got retconned because I hate how it made Marge leave Homer for someone else because cheating isn’t something Marge would do so this made her look bad so I’m hoping this has been retconned
As a Nirvana fan something that bothered me about this episode is that the other members of Sadgasm are supposed to parallel the other members of Nirvana (Lenny is Krist Novoselic, Carl is Dave Ghrol, Lou is Pat Smear) but even though Dave Ghrol is supposed to be the drummer Carl is playing guitar and Lou is the drummer
Speaking of dating yourself that meme template right at the end was very shocking
That Bart’s Nightmare OST sure is something, isn’t it?
Okay but the bit where Marge thinks homer is a junky and won't let him get to his needles only for it to turn out that he is diabetic was hilerious
They gotta stablish some sort of time altering device or something to keep messing with this shit. I swear soon Grandpa will become a veteran of Vietnam and Skinner will be a veteran of Iraq
12:48 good god I was not ready for GITCY
I only knew that because of caddicarus because I was looking back on some old videos…I honestly thought NO ONE ELSE knew about that show
I haven't watched in 25 years, but Marge is kind of a baddie with that Rachel haircut 😂
I think the crash test dummy thing is a reference to the crash test dummy commercials that were widely popular in the 90s and spawned cartoons and video games
Holy macaroni,that was insane,absolutely insane.🤯
I don't know why people continue to be so up in arms about this episode. It was a pretty funny send up of the 90s, and I don't think it was meant to be canon (until viewers got angry so the writers decided to double-down).
This is one of my favourites episodes... Sadgasm is in my Top 5 fake animated bands... the 90s style and tone were mocked perfectly to me... those teen/young adult dramas... 90210, melrose place, gilmore girls, my god, dawson's creek... I myself watched Gilmore Girls, it was fun... but the rest... I was born back in the 70s so not much teen drama for me and the young adult was becoming just "adult"... but my younger sisters watched Dawson and melrose... and I laughed at them... anyway this episode bring back memories...
9:35 The irony is that Vinyl has made a huge comeback over CDs in recent times. So this episode is even MORE dated.
I think they should have established/implied a soft reboot after the movie so they could be able to do flashback episodes that don't contradict established continuity from the early seasons
03:48; mentioned in the 'Spinoff Showcase'.
When I was a kid, I was Lisa's age. Now Homer was my age? Nonsense.
As a 90s kid I have a soft spot for this episode, but I consider it non-canon in a show where I barely hold any regard to canon to begin with.
It always bothered me Homer didn't know who Michael Jackson was but he knew Lady Gaga though.🥲
Your autism is impressive, you really went all out on this. I think you might understand my indignation towards the retconning of Abe Simpson, yet again. They made him into some Chinatown meets Miami Vice 80s PI. No hint of senility or the gullibility of the original grandpa.
I’m not gonna lie, but the Sadgasm songs and the Weird Al Parody Of a Parody really wants me to listen to the full parody songs even if they’re parody of Nirvana music.
Based on this information I would really love for the eventual finale to troll the fan base by incorporating different fan theories over time, like Homer being in a coma throughout the show due to the poisonous fish all the way back in the earlier seasons.
trying to figure out the timeline of the simpsons is like trying to figure out how doctor who and the powerrangers and the x-files and friends and 24 and the walking dead can all be set in the same realality/universe.
Is this even true
Nvm I looked it up you’re lying also horrible example if it’s not true
I like to think we see alternate dimensions with different variations of the past and the future.
I was JUST thinking about how they do the flashback scenario nowadays. It's been years since I watched any recent Simpsons episodes
Homers hairstyle is the caesar aka the george clooney, it came into style after the Rachael and weeeelll after grunge music.
I would say this just reference episode,
and those can be over bloated themselves, if they just throw everything blindly.
Mostly overuse "Memberberries" with no good sense.
like mixing Chinese and Japanese clothes in an "American kung-fu" film because it looks Asian without context,
not if it the context is parody or satire.
Maybe the Sonic poster predicted Sonic Generations😅
Excellent summary, but you forgot the oxygene bar reference
also: if you ask permission from SEGA to use Sonic characters, if you wanted a timeline accurate version of Sonic's Girlfriend, you would need to ask ARCHIE for permission to use Sally Acorn and she's a bit too naked for 9PM on Sundays when the family runs from whatever they were doing to gather on the couch and have something silly happen to them, for your family at home on your very own couch to watch and laugh together. maybe check the comics for when Amy Rose appears and gets her redesign and notable Amy Rose moments from the comics that take place after Sonic CD but before Sonic Adventure.
Good to see I'm not alone in hating this episode. The writers justifications are the worst. It always boils down to "oh yeah, well you're a huge nerd for noticing how bad our writing is."
Honestly it's on the nose. People look way too deep into stuff like this. People complain about how the show fell off yet always tune in to complain about it. Gotta give them props for some unintentional trolling, it's hilarious seeing people mald over something unimportant as what goes on in a cartoon.
@@Channeleven2345789 I disagree. If that's true then what does that say about the writers? Shouldn't you take your job seriously, no matter what it is? That's a cop out. We're talking about a beloved show that has been around for decades. Not a sloppily written high school English assignment. It's lazy and bad writing.
@@brianboese9884 Right, but what can anyone really do about it? The Simpsons is never gonna stop. I agree the older episodes are better, but I don't stress about it, like so many do, because what's that gonna get anyone, some steam let out?
Some people (the writers) just want to have fun, mess with people's heads, and though some may take it personally they really shouldn't, because no matter how bad it is, the show is gonna keep going, and honestly I'm getting tired of holding out for a miracle that's never gonna come.
@@Channeleven2345789 Why are you even watching and commenting on this video if you disagree with the entire premise?
@@brianboese9884 probably for the same reason people are watching the newer Simpsons episodes if they don’t like the quality of them. It goes both ways.
Homer is a milenial on current season, no flashback tho, just them saying it as a fact. So homer is now born the same year lisa was originaly
I dislike a lot of flashbacks of the modern Simpsons because they felt like the writers were going with " what if."
The episode's love triangle also seems like a nod to Reality Bites.
Why would people in The Simpsons universe have Simpsons merchandise? We don’t carry Real Life lunchboxes, after all.
There will be an episode where Homer tells the story of how he was long distance dating Marge during the pandemic while there were on High school and sending her a fortnite dance video asking her to ciber prom and theres nothing any of us can do to stop it