Yall gotta remember these Dudes are 60 plus years old they’re memory isn’t going be perfect they just going off what they know or heard everybody has they own history it’s up to you to align the stories and know what’s true or false 💯💯
One of the few times you see Kev Mac ASTONISHED by a guest's powers of recollection. To have a guy recall so much and be able to detail things in such a matter is remarkable. Of particular interest is the fact that Kev Mac will mention someone's name, Swann will not only mention the name but give the description, other names the guy goes by and his set or click to show that he's not just confirming a name, he's remembering the actual person. This is amazing work. Congrats to KMV and greetings to all the macheads and maniacs.
Mr. Verlis is 69 years old. Think he just misspoke on a date from over 50 years ago. All the great info in the interview, can focus on that info instead a date that isn’t correct? Some people, especially seniors will say “30 years ago” in reference to an event from the 80’s. It’s not malicious.
I wish he was out, and was able to come on livestream and just share information like OG Cutes. His perspective is interesting, being that he was one of the original handful of members. He was in the clique before it became a full-fledged gang. If you talked to him more, I am sure he could answer or give perspective on alot of debatable subjects. Keep pushing Kev. This is gold!
Salty was born in 1957. Mack Thomas 1953 Melvin Thomas 1955 Honcho 1955. Salty was a youngster to these guys. Lol @ Cutes coming around in 1979. Cutes caught his murder case in 1979. Cutes was 22 in 1979.
There's no Swans by Drew , Swans don't go east of Central , Used to be Kitchens & East Coast surrounding Drew but the northern part of both thier Hoods is mostly Mexican Fx13 now
We go from 75st to 95st From broadway to central 1999 to 2009 The only hoods that would play ball was 91H 88agc EC 6pack There was no 84msc or 87kc or 88HTHc at this timing well there was none around my age playing ball an 87 was friendly 😂😂 I went to Drew the only sets that was pushing a line there was 89ec Grape st BHW Swans F13 Anything else was TD
Of all the Crip names I heard on Kevmac being an OG subscriber. Number 1 and Moviestar sound the hardest names. Don't want to know what they did to earn names like that.
HE WAS WRONG ON A FEW THINGS, BUT IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE DUE TO HIS AGE. THE 87GC CAME OUT IN 1979 AND BROADWAY HOSPITAL WAS ON COLDEN AND BROADWAY. CASTLE CRIPS WERE OUT IN 1972 BEFORE KITCHEN AND FADED OUT AROUND 73'74. THAT BECAME SWAN HOOD.
Billy Jakc and Skull started Kitchen and it was in 71-72, not 73... but I understand he may have his times mixed up and definitely, the found of the set
I get a little confused sometimes, he’s clearly pretty sharp but at the same time stuff seems to get a little jumbled up. Idk I just have a gang of questions
KM what up fool better late than never you know I will never forget to come through and pay my tides to the founder of my set KMV I'm first generation Machead Baby Smac what up fool
About time I start 'fact correcting, not fact checking but fact correcting. Nobody wants to use the educational history to look up or say certain year frames. ATLEAST I'm the only one who know better. Come on it is Simple, get it? Simple... Early 1970's are 70, 71, 72, 73. Mid 1970's is 74, 75, 76. Late 1970's are 77, 78, 79. Or you go your buttt on the Google and it will say the SAME thing for Each! I will correct the incorrected
we want to hear the subjective account of those people. how they saw it through their eyes. if things are inaccarute, for example if he gives tookie founder status, is a statement in itself, that took was the man. we know it's not true though. all the dates and numbers and facts that aren't a secret are availible online. it's much more intetesting how he felt and how things looked for him than accuracy newspaper articles, obituaries etc. etc. it's not that much about accuracy anymore, i think kev has a better timeline than any og crip who was there
@@fila_arthurThat's where "getting it straight" come in, just because Kev was told such and such won't mean he won't fact check it later, unlike everyone else who do that. But my case toward Kev is he's guilty for telling me '76 is late 70's which is a straight lie. But I'm also doing other things right now so I still had not took time to come back to this video to look at the chat to see where me and Kev started having that mid and late 70's conversation from, but I will get to it soon.
@@fila_arthur he clarified because he has to consider his audience. He was giving Tookie founder status because as a Crip in 69, he considered it just a click of youngsters. He gives Tookie credit for helping to establish the click into a real dominant gang.
im still figuring out how to get the audio going, try stuff with my mixer, try different speakers and heafphones, listen to it in 75%x speed etc. do you guys understand everything or is my english not good enough the subtitles are absolutely incoherrent
You know Kev gonna ask you which 60s he from right? Kev is from Overhill(60s) other members come from different areas of 60s, like the Dime Block(60s) and AG(60s) and Front Hood(60s) and few other area sets of 60s. So Kev might ask you which part of 60 he from. Remember,- not all 60s know eachother
We are going to be forced to come together....
Damn we are on #7 already???. Great interview going faster than I thought. Salute Loco
Yall gotta remember these Dudes are 60 plus years old they’re memory isn’t going be perfect they just going off what they know or heard everybody has they own history it’s up to you to align the stories and know what’s true or false 💯💯
Facts. He 80yo.
Facts. Same people saying he has a great memory are questioning what he’s saying. It’s one or the other
OOO Verlis Swan 💪👊..... good episode
🗣️📢 KMV ‼️
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One of the few times you see Kev Mac ASTONISHED by a guest's powers of recollection. To have a guy recall so much and be able to detail things in such a matter is remarkable. Of particular interest is the fact that Kev Mac will mention someone's name, Swann will not only mention the name but give the description, other names the guy goes by and his set or click to show that he's not just confirming a name, he's remembering the actual person. This is amazing work. Congrats to KMV and greetings to all the macheads and maniacs.
Good content
Mr. Verlis is 69 years old. Think he just misspoke on a date from over 50 years ago. All the great info in the interview, can focus on that info instead a date that isn’t correct?
Some people, especially seniors will say “30 years ago” in reference to an event from the 80’s. It’s not malicious.
So true....
Trill Spill! 🏴☠️
I wish he was out, and was able to come on livestream and just share information like OG Cutes. His perspective is interesting, being that he was one of the original handful of members. He was in the clique before it became a full-fledged gang. If you talked to him more, I am sure he could answer or give perspective on alot of debatable subjects. Keep pushing Kev. This is gold!
Salty was born in 1957.
Mack Thomas 1953
Melvin Thomas 1955
Honcho 1955.
Salty was a youngster to these guys.
Lol @ Cutes coming around in 1979. Cutes caught his murder case in 1979. Cutes was 22 in 1979.
He made a mistake. He already stated Cutes vs Brims at along Table in 1976.
Yea he up in age probably forget alot of stuff
Let's see what you remember in your 60s
Getting caught up in the date and not the information that was presented is exactly why misinformation gets thru
@@jshipp5469 in gang history, dates are crucial.
There's no Swans by Drew , Swans don't go east of Central , Used to be Kitchens & East Coast surrounding Drew but the northern part of both thier Hoods is mostly Mexican Fx13 now
Whenever they say something and Kevin Mac know it’s not true
He just go along lol
It’s crazy how the old heads want to organize the young guys… but didn’t want to be organized when they were young by BGF etc
Peace and blessings Maniacs and Mac heads
Peace up Kev
J Jonah from the Bay Uncle love your history Topix great content great interviews keep it up Kev Mac because there's a story about every gang banger
We go from 75st to 95st
From broadway to central
1999 to 2009
The only hoods that would play ball was 91H 88agc EC 6pack
There was no 84msc or 87kc or 88HTHc at this timing well there was none around my age playing ball an 87 was friendly 😂😂
I went to Drew the only sets that was pushing a line there was
89ec
Grape st
BHW
Swans
F13
Anything else was TD
@MNHFSB789 How old are you?
@ 40
Good one Kev
Broadway hospital was on Colden and Broadway
In the 1980s no bloods brims or pirus walked the los Angeles county jail mainline.
Of all the Crip names I heard on Kevmac being an OG subscriber. Number 1 and Moviestar sound the hardest names. Don't want to know what they did to earn names like that.
Is the OG ever going to get out ?
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HE WAS WRONG ON A FEW THINGS, BUT IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE DUE TO HIS AGE. THE 87GC CAME OUT IN 1979 AND BROADWAY HOSPITAL WAS ON COLDEN AND BROADWAY. CASTLE CRIPS WERE OUT IN 1972 BEFORE KITCHEN AND FADED OUT AROUND 73'74. THAT BECAME SWAN HOOD.
89 family is from McKinley to central 92 to Manchester
Wait a minute he said OG Cutes didn't join Crip until 79???? Nah that can't be right
how is he even supposed to know. cutes probanly was just a nameless and faceless baby crip to him
@fila_arthur Nah. He said they hung out but I do think 79 is wrong. But he also knew his brothers name and knew he was from mac 7.
Batman started 74 ESC or 74 ECC.
But yea, he didnt approve of the Crip split. He wasnt down with the Crips fighting each other.
What years was Verlis on the street?
🫡 to the channel
How did L.B original Piru get caught for Salty murder??
Billy Jakc and Skull started Kitchen and it was in 71-72, not 73... but I understand he may have his times mixed up and definitely, the found of the set
I don’t think Billy Jack started Kitchen when I interviewed him he said they recruited him. But he’s an original for sure.
Familys took damn near everything outside the Avalon Projects. Shit Crazy
I get a little confused sometimes, he’s clearly pretty sharp but at the same time stuff seems to get a little jumbled up. Idk I just have a gang of questions
Did Cutes fall in 79? How could have joined in 79?
💯👣💪🏿
Swan is a cold dude
Kev Mac make sure you ask Verlis Swan again did he attend Raymond funeral.
BATMAN SOUND LIKE A CRIPS CRIP 💪🏽💯🫡
Hey Mac ask him about my big homie from 92 Bishop name Ryder Mike he been down 40 years he said he's ran across him a few times
4:21 definitely a shot a wack 100
😂😂
KM what up fool better late than never you know I will never forget to come through and pay my tides to the founder of my set KMV I'm first generation Machead Baby Smac what up fool
About time I start 'fact correcting, not fact checking but fact correcting. Nobody wants to use the educational history to look up or say certain year frames. ATLEAST I'm the only one who know better. Come on it is Simple, get it? Simple... Early 1970's are 70, 71, 72, 73. Mid 1970's is 74, 75, 76. Late 1970's are 77, 78, 79. Or you go your buttt on the Google and it will say the SAME thing for Each! I will correct the incorrected
we want to hear the subjective account of those people. how they saw it through their eyes. if things are inaccarute, for example if he gives tookie founder status, is a statement in itself, that took was the man. we know it's not true though. all the dates and numbers and facts that aren't a secret are availible online.
it's much more intetesting how he felt and how things looked for him than accuracy
newspaper articles, obituaries etc. etc. it's not that much about accuracy anymore, i think kev has a better timeline than any og crip who was there
@@fila_arthurThat's where "getting it straight" come in, just because Kev was told such and such won't mean he won't fact check it later, unlike everyone else who do that. But my case toward Kev is he's guilty for telling me '76 is late 70's which is a straight lie. But I'm also doing other things right now so I still had not took time to come back to this video to look at the chat to see where me and Kev started having that mid and late 70's conversation from, but I will get to it soon.
@@fila_arthur he clarified because he has to consider his audience. He was giving Tookie founder status because as a Crip in 69, he considered it just a click of youngsters. He gives Tookie credit for helping to establish the click into a real dominant gang.
Lololololololol "yeah,he had a lil size on em... lololololololol bwhahahahahahaha
Deeezzamn...
im still figuring out how to get the audio going, try stuff with my mixer, try different speakers and heafphones, listen to it in 75%x speed etc.
do you guys understand everything or is my english not good enough
the subtitles are absolutely incoherrent
I can understand just about everything that he’s saying but yes the audio quality is not the greatest when it comes to those jail calls
Gotta use earpods comes thru better!!
He lost me when he talked about killing a woman…no respect for him. Not a nice guy!’
I wonder if V.S. is standing on his take on the Groove?
It’s crazy how he got so much information wrong but he’s a OG highly spoke on
Come back when you’re 70 and tell us about all the shit that happened from the time you were 14-22 and let’s see how many details you get wrong
A Kev Mac Did you know my bigg brother from 60$ that died in 95. Lil IVE Dogg 2 was a bigg hitta from yo set. I never hear anybody talk about him.
You know Kev gonna ask you which 60s he from right? Kev is from Overhill(60s) other members come from different areas of 60s, like the Dime Block(60s) and AG(60s) and Front Hood(60s) and few other area sets of 60s. So Kev might ask you which part of 60 he from. Remember,- not all 60s know eachother
@@Austintx78721 not all 60s push a side. There are a lot that are traditional.
Lil I've Dog didn't push no side. But he hung on 67th st.
@@Austintx78721never see Kev Mac ask that question at all
Kc, and 89 Ec by drew
Family Swans only 1 street over. Plus they was all 1 gang with the 89 NH
KITCHEN always been its own.. we was cool wit 89EC.. never been 1 with them@ronaldmcdonald1977