About 25 years after this episode, Yves Montand starred in a pair of movies that are among my all-time favorites: Jean de Florette and Manon of the Spring. Based on novels by Marcel Pagnol, these French films were superbly done and won a number of international awards. The cast also included Gérard Depardieu, Daniel Auteuil, and Emmanuelle Béart.
During one of the many times during this episode where Arlene was smiling and laughing, I wondered what would she and Bennett and Dorothy and John would think if they knew that they were still delighting audiences with their performance on these shows some 50-65+ years later (depending upon which year the episode originated).
Given Dorothy played straight through the 70's at least, she'd probably believe it all too much. Something tells me that she'd be right on top of everything like she always is here.
No one making films from the '10s to the '40s would believe that the television age would not just give their product new life, but that their films would become immortal and be enjoyed practically forever. Likewise, people of the early TV age could not foresee the age of the internet and their product could be enjoyed by generations to come around the world. I see a day when Moon or Mars colonists are watching WML reruns. What would A, B, D, & J think about that?
@@bluecamus5162 I would think that the episodes of WML? where Jackie Gleason was the Mystery Guest (3/8/53 & 9/25/55) or Audrey Meadows was the Mystery Guest (8/21/55) would be especially popular on the Moon.
Interesting that Arlene commented on Mrs. Eaton's heart necklace on her way out of the studio; must have noticed because of her own, very special necklace that was similar. Sweet!
For the record, since nobody has yet posted a comment on it: WHAT'S MY LINE? was pre-empted by CBS the following Sunday, 29 October 1961, by a 90-minute made-for-TV adaptation (by Dale Wasserman) of Graham Greene's "The Power and the Glory," co-produced by Ronald H. Gilbert, David Susskind, and Renee Valente, directed by Marc Daniels, and with music by Lawrence Rosenthal. The cast principals were Laurence Olivier, Julie Harris, George C. Scott, Martin Gabel (as the Chief of Police), Roddy McDowall, Keenan Wynn, and Patty Duke. Also in the cast were Val Avery, Linda Canby, Frank Conroy, Cyril Cusack, Mildred Dunnock, Thomas Gomez, Mildred Natwick, Fritz Weaver, Florence Stanley, Joanna Merlin, and Steve Curry, among others.
+jmccracken1963 Thank you for this info that will save me the trouble of searching for a 10/29/61 episode. Surprising that "The Power and the Glory" wasn't promoted on this WML episode, both let viewers know and because "family" in the person of Martin Gabel was part of the production.
Wonderful wonderful Arlene , Dorothy , Bennett , Steve Allan , you are all unforgettable love to watch whats my line from Germany in youtube . Isn´t it a pitty you ´re never invite Marilyn ??
Frank Engelhardt It is a pity. I also think James Dean would've been a fantastic mystery guest. Actually I wonder if it was a 'no-no' for any member of Strasberg's "Actors Studio" as notably people like Brando, Dean and Steiger don't seem take part. Monroe was also a member for a while though she clearly co-operated with the idea of celebrity as well as ambitiously wanting to better her acting skills.
I was thinking the same thing when he made his entrance! Barry was close to 50 at this time, and looks practically the same as he did when he was playing romantic second leads at Metro in the 1940's.
I have to admit that I'd never heard of either Yves Montand or Barry Nelson before, but if Mr. Nelson was really almost 50 in this episode, then that is very amazing indeed -- I thought he looked closer to 30!
The second contestant was wearing a diamond heart necklace, similar to Arlene's, and Arlene definitely noticed this time! Take a look & listen at 12:35.
+Save The TPC I did catch that bit of byplay between Arlene and Mrs. Eaton. Not only that, but I think that Aileen Eaton bore quite a striking facial resemblance to Arlene Francis on this episode, too (as well as a resemblance in hair-style and even dress).
I wish Arlene's heart would show up somewhere (lost to a mugger). I bet the diamonds were reset in another piece long ago and that's why it's never been recovered.
Mrs. Eaton is niche famous, since she and her husband co-booked wrestling and boxing for the LA Olympic Auditorium from the 40s on, and it was an active hub for several different wrestling promotions, and a boxing hotbed. (It was also the backdrop for some movies like The Manchurian Candidate.) She fell in love with boxing when first working at the Olympic (actually, she was inspecting it for financial irregularities), and way preferred it over other things she promoted. After her first husband (Martin LaBell, which I mention because it’s weirdly hard to find in) died, she married Cal, who at the time was a boxing commission inspector. When they partnered up, he did more of the wrestling and she did more of the boxing; once he died in ’65, she did both. (And also roller derby and concerts and whatever the hell.) The Olympic was The Place for wrestling and boxing in the area, so she was really quite central to the whole thing. (She also promoted some matches at, frex, Dodger Stadium.) She and Martin had a couple kids, one of whom, Gene LeBell, is famous in his own right for various movie and TV stuff, and judo & wrestling. (Judo Gene LeBell is how a lot of people’ve heard of him.) Eaton had some dramatic health issues in the late 70s, and retired in 1980. She died in 1987. Obit: articles.latimes.com/1987-11-09/sports/sp-14600_1_southern-california-boxing Eaton outside the Olympic: pbs.twimg.com/media/CGnSCMNU8AAsbR5.jpg:large Eaton with a few of the fighters they promoted -- from left, Carlos Polomino, Eaton, Denny "Lil Red" Lopez and Albert "Superfly" Sandoval: i28.tinypic.com/2aais0p.jpg
jut seeing montand's expressions and hearing his voice while answering questions it immediately gave him away- he sounded exactly as he did in that movie with marilyn monroe "lets' make love".
Ruth Voboril, especially when he doesn't know that a hand kiss should never - ever - be kissing the hand but touch the hand with the tip of his chin in sign of respect. And Montand was not exactly the gentleman when everybody knows that he cheated on Simone Signoret with Marilyn Monroe as soon as Simone flew back to France after the shooting of Le milliardaire. That man is just a disgrace.
This is not the first time I noticed this, but I find the place identification by the last contestant interesting. He said he was from "Jamaica, Long Island". I have seen this in other episodes where someone is from a neighborhood in Queens and they refer to it as "Long Island". Of course Queens IS on Long Island, but part of NYC as well. Today no one from Queens would say it that way. It would be "Bayside, Queens" or "Jamaica, Queens"" or "Astoria, Queens". There are reasons for this change, but seeing this window into an old form of location naming is fascinating.
One of my favorite film noir's is MAN WITH MY FACE featuring Barry Nelson. He was married to an actress with the same last name as mine (Which is kind of rare) Teresa Celli. On TV correct me if I'm wrong, the first actor to play James Bond on TV ?
I'll always remember Barry Nelson for appearing in my favorite Twilight Zone classic episode, 'Stopover in a Quiet Town', in which him and his wife are kidnapped by giant aliens to be playthings for a giant little girl.
"Have you ever had what I consider the extreme pleasure of playing in a motion picture with Marilyn Monroe?" Actually, that shoot was a horror for pretty much everyone involved, and Montand had an affair with MM that ended maybe only a year before this appearance.
Bennett was very starstruck with Marilyn Monroe, seeing her from a fan's point of view, not the perspective of someone who worked with her on a picture.
@gcjerryusc Simone Signoret in her memoirs wrote that she wished Marilyn had lived long enough to know that she never blamed her for having an affair with Montand. She understood that they had in common being born in poverty and could share their memories of very poor children together. Signoret was a very generous person when it came to Montand. But everyone noticed that it is from this moment that she stopped caring for her looks, and that she started to drink more and not giving a damn that it showed. So Montand paid that price, I guess, for not behaving himself. Simone Signoret unconditionally loved her husband and he didn't deserve that love.
@gcjerryusc I wrote an answer but YT deleted it. I'm going to try to start again. YM sexually molested the daughter Simone Signoret had with her first husband Marc Allegret. Catherine Allegret (the daughter) wrote a book about this 20 years after her mother's death, her son Benjamin wrote a book, and another woman wrote a book claiming that her daughter was YM's daughter and YM's body was exhumed for DNA tests (the resemblance between the supposed daughter and YM was just crazy, everybody believed she was his dauhter). So, I don't know what the DNA tests revealed, all I know is that french justice decided that the girl was not YM's daughter. YM's image was...a lot destroyed. Catherine (Simone's daughter) also said that her mother saw, as she was growing to a teen, that Montand had some flirtatious behavior with her but that she (Simone) found it flattering (understand who can, as we say) and that to Simone it was like an extension of their relationship since she was getting old and less beautiful. To me the whole family is in la la land. There have been other not stories but facts about YM before SSignoret's death. It's awful. This man was never a gentleman. I stay polite because I know YT is not a democracy. If you search about YM, you'll find.
@@loissimmons6558 Bennett knew MM and told a few anecdotes about her in an interview I read somewhere. He said she dressed ridiculously, and that she hated sex, which begs the question: How did he know? It's a rather odd thing for her to have confided in him, unless they were very good friends indeed, and I don't believe he ever made such a claim.
Barry Nelson was married to Teresa Celli. One of the few actors with my last name. There is an actor by the name of Ted Celli also and that's about it. He was in a Seinfeld Episode.
I am very put out with Mr. John Daly for giving away the first game! Arlene played well, of course, but I don't think she ever would have gotten onto the costume track at all if John hadn't felt the need to qualify that there would be specific times that it would NOT be unusual to wear the contestant's product while having guests. I think that was completely unnecessary and very unlike him, since he usually wants to give the panel a hard time. They could have had a lot of fun with that one. Odd and aggravating behavior on his part.
On the other hand, the quick early rounds meant that the final round didn't have to be aborted due to lack of time, as it usually is. (And despite the panels usual jokes, I think John really was trying to be fair, which can't always have been easy.)
He often gives away the line when he "clarifies" when it's simply not needed. Still, it's hard to fault the tremendous overall job this guy did every week.
Considering the first guest was from NY and Arlene figured out his job so quickly, its too bad he couldn't have been the fourth contestant on one of those evenings where that segment always gets rushed!
@@thamnosma yeah y'know it doesn't make sense. He's the one that stops a contestant "upp upp don't give them too much; yes or no answers! The panel always complains about John being too tough on them but......
Anyome can say YEP but Yves did a smart think going 'uh-uh' rather than 'no' as his accent would've been a giveaway on the word. Ahhhh he's just got caught....I thought he would make it all the way!!
+john long + Rachel Moore To be exact, "Casino Royale" was the third teleplay of the first season of the TV version of CLIMAX!, which had aired on radio for quite a few years. "Casino Royale" aired originally on CBS on 21 October 1954. Barry Nelson did, indeed, play James Bond (sans British accent). Other cast principals were Linda Christian, Peter Lorre, Michael Pate, Eugene Borden, Jean Del Val, Gene Roth, and Kurt Katch. Antony Ellis and Charles Bennett adapted Ian Fleming's novel for TV; William H. Brown directed; William Lundigan was the host of CLIMAX!; and, as on radio, the co-producers of the TV show were Elliot Lewis and Bretaigne Windust. (CLIMAX! ran on CBS-TV for four seasons, by the way.)
Yves Montand is one of the very few people I've seen who PROPERLY knows how to kiss a lady's hand. You always, always bend down to MEET HER HAND, and you do not raise the hand to your lips
The idea is to hold the woman's hand, bend down and kiss the back of your own thumb, giving the impression to distant viewers that you are kissing her hand.
Towards the end of the program, Bennett comments, “We should’ve gotten that,” referring to the panel’s ability to figure out the line of the final contestant. Arlene agreed with him. I think this is the first time I’ve ever heard anybody on the panel say that they should have been able to determine someone’s occupation but didn’t succeed. Bennett seemed very disappointed in their performance tonight, and I felt bad for him.
Boxing: Let's celebrate and reward this barbaric activity of beating the "crap" out of somebody and claiming victory and renowned adulation. If only these fighters knew that, for many of them, their later years weren't so formative...
It's probably just me, but I find it annoying and disingenuous when people from Queens say they're from "Long Island". Yes, Queens is on said island, but that is not its principal identification.
Montand's command of English was negligible. Film critics were critical of Montand's language skills in the Marilyn Monroe film "Let's Make Love'--- he was often hard to understand, and he sometimes had no idea what he was saying in English. He was just mouthing the lines phonetically. Here he was obviously in a hurry to get off the stage because the last thing he wanted was to have a conversation in English on live television, and who can blame him?
How Bennett came up with Yves Montand after a few casual questions makes me start to wonder, after all the episodes I have watched, if the fix wasn't in occasionally. Montand sounded like Gary Cooper with his "yep". No questions about whether he had a movie out or a Broadway play. Yet, out of the blue, Bennett comes up with Yves Montand. Methinks something is rotten in the state of Denmark!
It has been noted quite a few times in comments on the various WML? episodes on UA-cam (and also in Gil Fates's book on the show) that Dorothy Kilgallen and Bennett Cerf and Arlene Francis would scan the New York newspapers each day/week (in preparation for their appearances as a panelist) to see which notable celebrities might be in town, as well as which movies and/or Broadway shows and/or nightclub acts might be opening, as well as which TV specials might be on, to try to get some idea of who might by the Mystery Guest on Sunday evening. I'm quite sure that one or several of them probably saw in the paper (Bennett certainly did, because he brought it up as Mr. Montand was making a hasty exit) that Yves Montand was putting on a special show at the Golden Theater a couple of days after this show. And, as one commenter noted previously, Yves Montand's voice sounds quite a bit like it had the year before in "Let's Make Love," in which he did, indeed, co-star with Marilyn Monroe. So: Nothing "rotten" at all - just good game-playing and preparation.
@@Rockaria23 It's not only Bennett that does it, but as time goes by I noticed the others doing it too. The show changed as time went by with John Daley too often "accidently" giving the panel many clues which helped the millionaires cheat the mostly ordinary poor folks out of a measly $50. I don't care if the $50 would be worth much more today, I still think John Daley's head became larger and larger, which led him to long winded blathering of clues that accidently? helped the panel.
@@jmccracken1963 I suspected this way back in the 50's, but even so, the famous people, 90% of the time were there - not to stump the panel- but to advertise whatever they recently did, or just to keep their faces in front of the camera. So when the panel often admitted to seeing or hearing something about the mystery guest's name, I was not surprised and usually didn't care. I found the part featuring "ordinary" people much more interesting. However, I can also see where "Hollywood" or "NYC" wealthy peeps might watch the show for clues as to where to spend a Saturday night.
The panelists check who is in town and what new movie is out there and who is acting on stage etc. At times I am suspicious of Dorothy where half the time her mask is askew.
Not a fix. Bennett was renowned to have scoured the NY tabloids to see who was in town. Particularly this soon after the quiz show scandals, S&P kept close scrutiny.
Having watched many episodes, it's obvious when Bennet already knows who the mystery guest is. When he doesn't have previous knowledge, you can tell from his questioning that he has no idea.
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Arlene just had the nicest smile, and the most endearing personality. She just seemed like the most lovely person anyone would ever want to meet.
Probably, they did make very good money here.
I love these people. Manners from a bygone era.
About 25 years after this episode, Yves Montand starred in a pair of movies that are among my all-time favorites: Jean de Florette and Manon of the Spring. Based on novels by Marcel Pagnol, these French films were superbly done and won a number of international awards. The cast also included Gérard Depardieu, Daniel Auteuil, and Emmanuelle Béart.
During one of the many times during this episode where Arlene was smiling and laughing, I wondered what would she and Bennett and Dorothy and John would think if they knew that they were still delighting audiences with their performance on these shows some 50-65+ years later (depending upon which year the episode originated).
Given Dorothy played straight through the 70's at least, she'd probably believe it all too much. Something tells me that she'd be right on top of everything like she always is here.
@@El_Ophelia Do you mean Arlene? Dorothy tragically died in 1965.
Lilly Beans Ahhh you mean Arlene. I was well confused there!!
No one making films from the '10s to the '40s would believe that the television age would not just give their product new life, but that their films would become immortal and be enjoyed practically forever. Likewise, people of the early TV age could not foresee the age of the internet and their product could be enjoyed by generations to come around the world. I see a day when Moon or Mars colonists are watching WML reruns. What would A, B, D, & J think about that?
@@bluecamus5162 I would think that the episodes of WML? where Jackie Gleason was the Mystery Guest (3/8/53 & 9/25/55) or Audrey Meadows was the Mystery Guest (8/21/55) would be especially popular on the Moon.
Interesting that Arlene commented on Mrs. Eaton's heart necklace on her way out of the studio; must have noticed because of her own, very special necklace that was similar. Sweet!
Arlene's diamond heart necklace was stolen from her neck when she was exiting a cab in 1979.
Barry Nelson was the guy who interviewed "Jack" for the hotel job in "The Shining"
For the record, since nobody has yet posted a comment on it:
WHAT'S MY LINE? was pre-empted by CBS the following Sunday, 29 October 1961, by a 90-minute made-for-TV adaptation (by Dale Wasserman) of Graham Greene's "The Power and the Glory," co-produced by Ronald H. Gilbert, David Susskind, and Renee Valente, directed by Marc Daniels, and with music by Lawrence Rosenthal.
The cast principals were Laurence Olivier, Julie Harris, George C. Scott, Martin Gabel (as the Chief of Police), Roddy McDowall, Keenan Wynn, and Patty Duke. Also in the cast were Val Avery, Linda Canby, Frank Conroy, Cyril Cusack, Mildred Dunnock, Thomas Gomez, Mildred Natwick, Fritz Weaver, Florence Stanley, Joanna Merlin, and Steve Curry, among others.
+jmccracken1963
Thank you for this info that will save me the trouble of searching for a 10/29/61 episode.
Surprising that "The Power and the Glory" wasn't promoted on this WML episode, both let viewers know and because "family" in the person of Martin Gabel was part of the production.
Great episode. Love the manners and this show still holds up very well.
Wonderful wonderful Arlene , Dorothy , Bennett , Steve Allan , you are all unforgettable
love to watch whats my line from Germany in youtube . Isn´t it a pitty you ´re never invite Marilyn ??
Frank Engelhardt It is a pity. I also think James Dean would've been a fantastic mystery guest. Actually I wonder if it was a 'no-no' for any member of Strasberg's "Actors Studio" as notably people like Brando, Dean and Steiger don't seem take part. Monroe was also a member for a while though she clearly co-operated with the idea of celebrity as well as ambitiously wanting to better her acting skills.
I just Arlene she is so gracious. She got more beautiful with age.
Thanks for sharing this clip with one of the greatest international stars, Yves Montand. By the way, Barry Nelson never seems to age!
I was thinking the same thing when he made his entrance! Barry was close to 50 at this time, and looks practically the same as he did when he was playing romantic second leads at Metro in the 1940's.
I have to admit that I'd never heard of either Yves Montand or Barry Nelson before, but if Mr. Nelson was really almost 50 in this episode, then that is very amazing indeed -- I thought he looked closer to 30!
Todd Brandt Barry Nelson was 44 when he appeared on this show.
The second contestant was wearing a diamond heart necklace, similar to Arlene's, and Arlene definitely noticed this time! Take a look & listen at 12:35.
SaveThe TPC Nice catch!
+Save The TPC I did catch that bit of byplay between Arlene and Mrs. Eaton. Not only that, but I think that Aileen Eaton bore quite a striking facial resemblance to Arlene Francis on this episode, too (as well as a resemblance in hair-style and even dress).
I just caught that and then saw your comment. Was that heart design a thing of the time?
@@thamnosma Her hubby’s parents owned a jewelry store in Philly
I wish Arlene's heart would show up somewhere (lost to a mugger). I bet the diamonds were reset in another piece long ago and that's why it's never been recovered.
Mrs. Eaton is niche famous, since she and her husband co-booked wrestling and boxing for the LA Olympic Auditorium from the 40s on, and it was an active hub for several different wrestling promotions, and a boxing hotbed. (It was also the backdrop for some movies like The Manchurian Candidate.) She fell in love with boxing when first working at the Olympic (actually, she was inspecting it for financial irregularities), and way preferred it over other things she promoted. After her first husband (Martin LaBell, which I mention because it’s weirdly hard to find in) died, she married Cal, who at the time was a boxing commission inspector. When they partnered up, he did more of the wrestling and she did more of the boxing; once he died in ’65, she did both. (And also roller derby and concerts and whatever the hell.) The Olympic was The Place for wrestling and boxing in the area, so she was really quite central to the whole thing. (She also promoted some matches at, frex, Dodger Stadium.) She and Martin had a couple kids, one of whom, Gene LeBell, is famous in his own right for various movie and TV stuff, and judo & wrestling. (Judo Gene LeBell is how a lot of people’ve heard of him.) Eaton had some dramatic health issues in the late 70s, and retired in 1980. She died in 1987.
Obit: articles.latimes.com/1987-11-09/sports/sp-14600_1_southern-california-boxing
Eaton outside the Olympic: pbs.twimg.com/media/CGnSCMNU8AAsbR5.jpg:large
Eaton with a few of the fighters they promoted -- from left, Carlos Polomino, Eaton, Denny "Lil Red" Lopez and Albert "Superfly" Sandoval: i28.tinypic.com/2aais0p.jpg
I'm very surprised that John didn't flip over the cards for that first guest!
If it had been a woman he would have
Interesting to hear the reference to "Password" as a brand new game at this time, and I guess Bennett was one of its first celebrity players.
Bennett, a celebrity? A ham, yes, celebrity, no.
@@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Bennett's weekly appearances as a regular panelist on _What's My Line?_ most certainly turned him into a celebrity.
jut seeing montand's expressions and hearing his voice while answering questions it immediately gave him away- he sounded exactly as he did in that movie with marilyn monroe "lets' make love".
Terrible movie
Arlene is really a sharp questioner. Two more questions about the skywriter, and I think she would have gotten the answer. She got the mask question.
Barry Nelson was charming and handsome. Nice to see him here. 🥰
Enchanté, Monsieur Montand ! There's nothing more charming than a gentleman who kisses ladies' hands!
Esp. in flu season.
Ruth Voboril, especially when he doesn't know that a hand kiss should never - ever - be kissing the hand but touch the hand with the tip of his chin in sign of respect. And Montand was not exactly the gentleman when everybody knows that he cheated on Simone Signoret with Marilyn Monroe as soon as Simone flew back to France after the shooting of Le milliardaire. That man is just a disgrace.
This is not the first time I noticed this, but I find the place identification by the last contestant interesting. He said he was from "Jamaica, Long Island". I have seen this in other episodes where someone is from a neighborhood in Queens and they refer to it as "Long Island". Of course Queens IS on Long Island, but part of NYC as well. Today no one from Queens would say it that way. It would be "Bayside, Queens" or "Jamaica, Queens"" or "Astoria, Queens". There are reasons for this change, but seeing this window into an old form of location naming is fascinating.
Having been born in Queens in 1952, around the time I started school I was taught that my address was Richmond Hill, LI, 19, NY.
I lived in Jamaica, and our address was occasionally seen as Jamaica, LI, NY. Absolutely.
Does anyone else notice Bennett’s difficulty in pronouncing people’s names correctly?
Mr. Cerf had a slight speech impediment.
He employs a lot of quixotic pronunciations.
Arlene appears especially attractive tonight.
One of my favorite film noir's is MAN WITH MY FACE featuring Barry Nelson. He was married to an actress with the same last name as mine (Which is kind of rare) Teresa Celli. On TV correct me if I'm wrong, the first actor to play James Bond on TV ?
I believe he was.
Wow Daly has EIGHT minutes left to fill with the last contestant. He must've been desperate for the clock hand to soeed up this time!
I'll always remember Barry Nelson for appearing in my favorite Twilight Zone classic episode, 'Stopover in a Quiet Town', in which him and his wife are kidnapped by giant aliens to be playthings for a giant little girl.
Good old American pronunciation! Why I'm here (American living in France:)
Dorothy was really a rare bird. Had a mysterious & tragic end, I believe.
mckavitt Yep. Check out the LONG lecture about it here on UA-cam. Prepare to be outraged and saddened.
I love how Mr. Cerf seems to take all of this so seriously sometimes. “We should have guessed it,” he adds with a not of decided consternation.
Let's Make Love was the Montand Monroe movie (1960.)
"Have you ever had what I consider the extreme pleasure of playing in a motion picture with Marilyn Monroe?" Actually, that shoot was a horror for pretty much everyone involved, and Montand had an affair with MM that ended maybe only a year before this appearance.
Boy, was he in a hurry to get out of there! And he did the classic French thing of kissing the ladies' hands.
Bennett was very starstruck with Marilyn Monroe, seeing her from a fan's point of view, not the perspective of someone who worked with her on a picture.
@gcjerryusc Simone Signoret in her memoirs wrote that she wished Marilyn had lived long enough to know that she never blamed her for having an affair with Montand. She understood that they had in common being born in poverty and could share their memories of very poor children together. Signoret was a very generous person when it came to Montand. But everyone noticed that it is from this moment that she stopped caring for her looks, and that she started to drink more and not giving a damn that it showed. So Montand paid that price, I guess, for not behaving himself. Simone Signoret unconditionally loved her husband and he didn't deserve that love.
@gcjerryusc I wrote an answer but YT deleted it. I'm going to try to start again. YM sexually molested the daughter Simone Signoret had with her first husband Marc Allegret. Catherine Allegret (the daughter) wrote a book about this 20 years after her mother's death, her son Benjamin wrote a book, and another woman wrote a book claiming that her daughter was YM's daughter and YM's body was exhumed for DNA tests (the resemblance between the supposed daughter and YM was just crazy, everybody believed she was his dauhter). So, I don't know what the DNA tests revealed, all I know is that french justice decided that the girl was not YM's daughter. YM's image was...a lot destroyed. Catherine (Simone's daughter) also said that her mother saw, as she was growing to a teen, that Montand had some flirtatious behavior with her but that she (Simone) found it flattering (understand who can, as we say) and that to Simone it was like an extension of their relationship since she was getting old and less beautiful. To me the whole family is in la la land. There have been other not stories but facts about YM before SSignoret's death. It's awful. This man was never a gentleman. I stay polite because I know YT is not a democracy. If you search about YM, you'll find.
@@loissimmons6558 Bennett knew MM and told a few anecdotes about her in an interview I read somewhere. He said she dressed ridiculously, and that she hated sex, which begs the question: How did he know? It's a rather odd thing for her to have confided in him, unless they were very good friends indeed, and I don't believe he ever made such a claim.
Barry Nelson was married to Teresa Celli. One of the few actors with my last name. There is an actor by the name of Ted Celli also and that's about it. He was in a Seinfeld Episode.
I am very put out with Mr. John Daly for giving away the first game! Arlene played well, of course, but I don't think she ever would have gotten onto the costume track at all if John hadn't felt the need to qualify that there would be specific times that it would NOT be unusual to wear the contestant's product while having guests. I think that was completely unnecessary and very unlike him, since he usually wants to give the panel a hard time. They could have had a lot of fun with that one. Odd and aggravating behavior on his part.
On the other hand, the quick early rounds meant that the final round didn't have to be aborted due to lack of time, as it usually is. (And despite the panels usual jokes, I think John really was trying to be fair, which can't always have been easy.)
He often gives away the line when he "clarifies" when it's simply not needed. Still, it's hard to fault the tremendous overall job this guy did every week.
Considering the first guest was from NY and Arlene figured out his job so quickly, its too bad he couldn't have been the fourth contestant on one of those evenings where that segment always gets rushed!
No...its exactly like him... I've seen him do this several times causing the contestant to lose...doesn't know when to shut up
@@thamnosma yeah y'know it doesn't make sense. He's the one that stops a contestant "upp upp don't give them too much; yes or no answers! The panel always complains about John being too tough on them but......
Ah man, I was thinking the same thing Mr. Daly was, Geiger counter, Lol! Wrong. He probably got that a lot.
I wonder if there ever was 5 guests because the guessing was so swift and what show was that ? I'd like to see that one.
That never happened.
I had just turned 1 that week😊.
Surprise, surprise, Bennett Cerf "guesses" the mystery guest again.
His wife was a nosy blabber mouth and he was a creepy cheater.
Anyome can say YEP but Yves did a smart think going 'uh-uh' rather than 'no' as his accent would've been a giveaway on the word. Ahhhh he's just got caught....I thought he would make it all the way!!
Barry Nelson, the original James Bond !!!
Hi John,
you're right about him being the original James Bond. You re refreshed my memory. Thanks for the chuckle.
+john long + Rachel Moore To be exact, "Casino Royale" was the third teleplay of the first season of the TV version of CLIMAX!, which had aired on radio for quite a few years. "Casino Royale" aired originally on CBS on 21 October 1954. Barry Nelson did, indeed, play James Bond (sans British accent). Other cast principals were Linda Christian, Peter Lorre, Michael Pate, Eugene Borden, Jean Del Val, Gene Roth, and Kurt Katch. Antony Ellis and Charles Bennett adapted Ian Fleming's novel for TV; William H. Brown directed; William Lundigan was the host of CLIMAX!; and, as on radio, the co-producers of the TV show were Elliot Lewis and Bretaigne Windust.
(CLIMAX! ran on CBS-TV for four seasons, by the way.)
john long He may have been, but it's a stretch to really understand how .
007 actors - from Mr Nelson onwards:
www.007james.com/articles/who_played_james_bond.php
John Daley gave away something by saying the word "plane." Whoops!
Yves Montand is one of the very few people I've seen who PROPERLY knows how to kiss a lady's hand. You always, always bend down to MEET HER HAND, and you do not raise the hand to your lips
I usually kiss along the arm then plant one right on the lips.
@@davidsanderson5918 and he doesn't mind?
The idea is to hold the woman's hand, bend down and kiss the back of your own thumb, giving the impression to distant viewers that you are kissing her hand.
I guess the False face was a fancy word for a mask. Interesting.
Lotta whistles for a man (Montand)
barry nelson from the shining :D
Towards the end of the program, Bennett comments, “We should’ve gotten that,” referring to the panel’s ability to figure out the line of the final contestant. Arlene agreed with him. I think this is the first time I’ve ever heard anybody on the panel say that they should have been able to determine someone’s occupation but didn’t succeed. Bennett seemed very disappointed in their performance tonight, and I felt bad for him.
I do not
22:37 "What have you written lately?"
Barry Nelson..first actor to portray Ian Fleming's secret agent James Bond. TV Show back in the 1950's..
The mask manufacturer got to advertise his products so he won't miss the $50 maybe. His advertising cost. Lol
I hope they gave that first contestant the money anyway.
In the long run, every regular contestant receives the maximum $50.
@@RonGerstein Again, no they did not. The MG received $500, however.
OK, how did she get mask. Cmon.
Man, Arlene was half in the bag!
“Polysyllabic panjandrum!” LOL I LOVE Bennet! Now I’ll have to look for him on that week of Password.
Bennett Cerf's pronunciation of Los Angeles is bizarre! He pronounces it with a hard "g". It's off putting.
Bennett pronounces many simple words bazarre.
“False Face”??😂
Barry Nelson was the first actor to ever portray James Bond
I heard recently that Peter Lorre wss the first.
Nelson was not a good Bond. 🙄
14:40 Aaahhh... this is boring, those super-professionals finds it out after 4 questions.
Boxing: Let's celebrate and reward this barbaric activity of beating the "crap" out of somebody and claiming victory and renowned adulation. If only these fighters knew that, for many of them, their later years weren't so formative...
How does Bennett Cerf get it so quick?
It's probably just me, but I find it annoying and disingenuous when people from Queens say they're from "Long Island". Yes, Queens is on said island, but that is not its principal identification.
Trivial.
Not uncommon in those days. And Jamaica was very much considered LI.
Is John for REAL?!! people have 40 and 45 points on this show, and he flips over those STUPID cards. This had NO points, and he just lets it go!
It’s a guy, that’s the difference
The point-keeping is just to keep an air of competition in the program. In reality, all contestants are paid the full amount for just being there.
So much to talk to Montand, and off he goes in a minute. What a waste.
Montand's command of English was negligible. Film critics were critical of Montand's language skills in the Marilyn Monroe film "Let's Make Love'--- he was often hard to understand, and he sometimes had no idea what he was saying in English. He was just mouthing the lines phonetically. Here he was obviously in a hurry to get off the stage because the last thing he wanted was to have a conversation in English on live television, and who can blame him?
False Faces?...do Americans not use the word mask? False Face us a minor Batman villian to me lol🎩
She was drunk this show. Likely she was an alcoholic. .
Who?
How Bennett came up with Yves Montand after a few casual questions makes me start to wonder, after all the episodes I have watched, if the fix wasn't in occasionally. Montand sounded like Gary Cooper with his "yep". No questions about whether he had a movie out or a Broadway play. Yet, out of the blue, Bennett comes up with Yves Montand. Methinks something is rotten in the state of Denmark!
It has been noted quite a few times in comments on the various WML? episodes on UA-cam (and also in Gil Fates's book on the show) that Dorothy Kilgallen and Bennett Cerf and Arlene Francis would scan the New York newspapers each day/week (in preparation for their appearances as a panelist) to see which notable celebrities might be in town, as well as which movies and/or Broadway shows and/or nightclub acts might be opening, as well as which TV specials might be on, to try to get some idea of who might by the Mystery Guest on Sunday evening. I'm quite sure that one or several of them probably saw in the paper (Bennett certainly did, because he brought it up as Mr. Montand was making a hasty exit) that Yves Montand was putting on a special show at the Golden Theater a couple of days after this show. And, as one commenter noted previously, Yves Montand's voice sounds quite a bit like it had the year before in "Let's Make Love," in which he did, indeed, co-star with Marilyn Monroe.
So: Nothing "rotten" at all - just good game-playing and preparation.
I still get annoyed with Bennett every time he shouts the answer out when it's not his turn.
@@Rockaria23 It's not only Bennett that does it, but as time goes by I noticed the others doing it too. The show changed as time went by with John Daley too often "accidently" giving the panel many clues which helped the millionaires cheat the mostly ordinary poor folks out of a measly $50. I don't care if the $50 would be worth much more today, I still think John Daley's head became larger and larger, which led him to long winded blathering of clues that accidently? helped the panel.
@@jmccracken1963 I suspected this way back in the 50's, but even so, the famous people, 90% of the time were there - not to stump the panel- but to advertise whatever they recently did, or just to keep their faces in front of the camera. So when the panel often admitted to seeing or hearing something about the mystery guest's name, I was not surprised and usually didn't care. I found the part featuring "ordinary" people much more interesting. However, I can also see where "Hollywood" or "NYC" wealthy peeps might watch the show for clues as to where to spend a Saturday night.
The panelists check who is in town and what new movie is out there and who is acting on stage etc. At times I am suspicious of Dorothy where half the time her mask is askew.
Broadway Cerf knew who the Mystery Guest was (Yves Montand) with one simple question. A fix if there ever was one.
Not a fix. Bennett was renowned to have scoured the NY tabloids to see who was in town. Particularly this soon after the quiz show scandals, S&P kept close scrutiny.
Having watched many episodes, it's obvious when Bennet already knows who the mystery guest is. When he doesn't have previous knowledge, you can tell from his questioning that he has no idea.
Amazing how they got away with so much cheating during the years of the show..it is so obvious
Oh, Arlene! You showed your age wearing gaudy jewelry. That look isn't 'charming'.
Her Hubby’s parents owned a jewelry store in Philly do tho gaudy it was probably real
Barry Nelson was the first James Bond.