I'm suspecting they encountered a sudden change to tailwind as they rotated (local vortex), and couldn't get flying speed. Pilot pulled back instead of lowering the nose and adding power, possibly because they were running out of runway.
I’m actually very surprised that the LATAM stayed in one piece after that tail strike, that had to be one of the longest scrapings of the runway I have ever seen!
@@soaringvultureit’s a factor but they would have planned it pretty carefully, and I assume the tow rope has some weight to it so that if the glider releases its not likely to go up.
I have seen many aircraft at my local airport do a crab maneuver even in light cross winds let alone heavy cross winds during a tropical storm or hurricane. I am always amazed at these pilots ability's to land these aircraft safely.
@@frankmoreau8847 well a couple of years ago a bad Boeing software update caused a couple of Alaska airlines 737 to tail strike within minutes of each other, due to errata in the EFB coding used to calculate take-off performance, which resulted in giving to low V1, VR and V2 speeds, so there is president.
@@frankmoreau8847 As they should. Boeing just plead guilty to fraud. Cutting costs to save a few bucks at the expense of passengers. You side with corporations, I side with working people. Let me guess.....Republican?
Many pilots are unaware that the localizer antenna is positioned on the nose of the aircraft and this means that during approaches with strong crosswinds, landing with a significant drift angle, the main landing gear will touch the ground not at the center of the runway as it should but several meters moved towards the edge of the runway, enormously limiting the possibilities of regaining the center line safely during de-crab. The correct way to land in these conditions is to align the cockpit between the center line and the windward runway edge in proportion to the crosswind component and above all depending on the length of the fuselage between the cockpit and the main landing gear, which on very long aircraft it can even be over 30 m
That helicopter towing a glider was unusual. How does the helicopter detach the glider and do they drop the tow cable to the ground because it would be too dangerous to wind it back into the helicopter?
Yeah was wondering about the end of the show. If the tow rope is weighted then it’s not a big deal so long as you are expecting it when the glider releases.
IMHO the A380 did not get blown off the centerline. You have to take into account from where the aircraft is flown. It's flown from the flight deck, which is in the very front of the aircraft. During landing pilots don't keep the center of the aircraft over the centerline, but but themselves, because that's their reference point. Even during an automatic landing the same will happen, because the localizer antenna is under the radome and it will keep the nose of the aircraft right on the centerline. Looking at the footage, the flight deck stays over the centerline almost perfectly, so I think the pilots did a good job.
@@pnwsnewton Then how come, in the Boeing 747 training manual, it specifically advises positioning the cockpit upwind of the centreline in crosswind landings? (Yes I've done the course). In an autoland the problem doesn't arise because the crosswind limitation is so low as to make the small deviation from centreline acceptable.
Conversely, in my view, the pilots butts ought to be UPWIND of the centerline when approaching the threshold so that the main gear is properly over and aligned with the Centerline of the runway and not horribly downwind and askew from it. A skilled pilot then adds rudder to swing the long axis of airplane parallel to and on the centerline just as the plane is about to and or touching down. He doesn't side load the hell out of the gear (and pax necks) and simply let inertia straighten the jet. This will also prevent the furious rudder-dance that so often follows horrible crosswind landings as the jet yaws all over the runway. Having the nose gear on the centerline does no good if the rest of the jet is headed elsewhere. There are dozens of Emirates jets landing sideways on YT. It ain't pretty.
A380 had perfect approach for the conditions. When landing you want to be downwind of the centre line because when the wheels touch down, and given their angle to the runway, they will immediately try to take the aircraft to the left, which would need to be corrected by right rudder. In that brief left movement at touchdown the aircraft can move quite a distance laterally and if you are already at the centre of the runway, you could end up too close to the lhs edge. As can be appreciated, this is problem on narrow runways with large aircraft. If however you are right of centre you will end up in the middle which is where you want to be. Try landing a light aircraft on a 6m wide runways in a 15 knot crosswind, you'll quickly find out what works. As for Boeing, yes well.....
I'll be always amazed by the sheer counterintuitiveness of the stall recovery maneuver... I mean, the plane is falling? Hey, no problem, I point it down and accelerate so it falls even faster. No wonder it's gotta be one of the most trained maneuvers, you gotta condition yourself to fight the natural urge of pulling up.
It's not counter-intuitive - there is absolutely no urge to pull up. This is because at the moment the wing loses lift the plane is not falling - there is no sensation of falling, there's no visible sign that you're falling, but the trained pilot notices the controls become sluggish & it's perfectly natural to regain control by pushing the nose down to restore wing air flow & hence lift.
@@Strathclydegamer Your point is absurd the flight deck of AF 447 were most likely never aware they were in a stall - the word isn't mentioned on the voice recorder. The final report on Airbus A330-203, F-GZCP, AF 447 [Rio de Janeiro - Paris]:- "The plane began to climb. During the whole climb to 38,000 feet, the crew failed to understand the situation. Even when the plane stalled and the stall warning sounded, the crew likely did not understand the stall situation they were in and so never tried to put the nose down and recover the plane from the stall. The plane remained stalled until impact with water."
@@nightjarflyingThat’s not necessarily correct. In various flight clubs I’ve visited, there’s plenty of posters reminding student pilots to nose down in a stall and not fight the drop. Those of us with licences know better and know the procedure, but to a student or non-pilot, I can definitely see it feeling counter-intuitive initially.
@@PN_48 Never felt that way myself & reread where I wrote "trained". The key is realising one has entered a stall - at that moment the plane is rarely falling, one is usually climbing with too great an angle of attack. One applies "nose down" nearly always before the plane falls.
Thanks, if you are unfortunate enough to have a cross wind or severe wind landing situation, then the A 380 is the one to be in, size matters. I thought the landing looked OK for the situation, but what do I know.
B2 - a few years back I saw one of these on the outskirts of Las Vegas, above me at probably 10k feet. It does not look right - in fact, it looks like it should be an alien craft from outer space. EXTREMELY weird.
If you watch the plane taxiing on the left you can see how the first clip is sped up for the first 18 seconds in order to make to approach appear more dramatic. Watch at 0:19 how it suddenly slows down
@@verifiedtoxicangel2411 watch how quickly it happens. It would have had to smoke the tires to actually do so, and you would have seen the nose dip at the same time. Neither of which are seen
1:29 BREAKING NEWS: Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirits are now being called, "Butter Machine 2.0." This is not good news for the airbus a330. Stay tuned for further updates!
I would guess that the 777 pilots go some wrong take-off data in terms take-off weight, thus V1, VR and V2 were all incorrect, so they ended up rotating too early.
Usually in these a tail strike is a puff of dust. You blink and you miss it. This one was more a full feature opera. That plane needs a real inspection after that must dragging -- I would think. At leave before I fly on it.
I've never seen a glider being towed by a helicopter , just by planes. It's the helicopter not to slow for the glider to fly safely? Also if the towing cable snaps is it not too dangerous in case it gets tangled into the blades?
I assume there was a swivel joint in the tow rope between the helicopter and the glider. Otherwise the rope would be winding up like an elastic band on a toy plane and applying all that torsion to the helicopter.
Most of the rotorwash goes downwards, so the glider is probably going to be ok directly behind or just above. But if he gets too low it could be decidedly dodgy.
They returned on their own I believe. I just hope repairs are done correctly and we don't see another JAL123, where a bad repair work comes back to bite them back with an explosive decompression.
0:41 "Tailstrike"? That guy was digging a trench down the runway!
stress testing a wheelie guard
For real! I just finished watching blancolirio cover that, then was pleasantly surprised to see it again in this video.
the pilot forgot they're not flying dc-3 😅
@@힐만94 Even the DC-3 is supposed to lift the tail before the mains liftoff. 🤣
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that LATAM looked like a dog dragging its ass on the carpet xdd
Same thought!
hahahahaha
Tailstrike? That LATAM pilot decided to shave off a solid few inches of aluminum on the back. Attempted to rotate way early.
No v1? No problem!
Not a strike, a drag!
I'm suspecting they encountered a sudden change to tailwind as they rotated (local vortex), and couldn't get flying speed. Pilot pulled back instead of lowering the nose and adding power, possibly because they were running out of runway.
Not enough power too much weight typical south America 😂
The airplane was tail heavy and needed a little balance 🤦
I’m actually very surprised that the LATAM stayed in one piece after that tail strike, that had to be one of the longest scrapings of the runway I have ever seen!
The tower asked him to do that. the center-line needed repainting and this was quicker than scraping it off by hand.
@MatthewPettyST1300 i can't tell if you're being funny or serious
@@FlyoutAerospacereally?
@@FlyoutAerospaceyou can’t? Wait. Now I can’t tell if YOU’RE being funny or serious. 😂
@@FlyoutAerospace so you're just joking right? wait, are you serious?
Wow, they turned that from a 777-300 to a 200.
shaved off the entire end of it 😂
The glider was crazy.
Because the gilder has zero risk of stall. The helicopter can support its full weight even if its not flying.
Except if the cable breaks and the glider gets caught in the rotor wash...
The glider helicopter tow thing was pretty impressive
Yeah I can’t say I’ve ever seen that before. That’s a lot of trust between those pilots and the tow rope.
That Northrop B-2 Spirit looks so "alien", like it's out of some sci-fi movie
I can say w all confidence I’d never seen - or even thought of - a helicopter towing a glider before! That was crazy.
It looked horrible to me. I was expecting the cable to foul the rotor.
@@soaringvultureit’s a factor but they would have planned it pretty carefully, and I assume the tow rope has some weight to it so that if the glider releases its not likely to go up.
Still in tow while rolling
The pilots have some REAL skill to land a giant with that much crosswind.
It never ceases to amaze me how the wind can blow a huge plane around so easily.
It would be more difficult with a GA plane
@@AnimalisMDwell considering it’s light enough to fly. And wind can topple buildings. Never underestimate nature.
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@@MeppyMan 💯
I have seen many aircraft at my local airport do a crab maneuver even in light cross winds let alone heavy cross winds during a tropical storm or hurricane. I am always amazed at these pilots ability's to land these aircraft safely.
When A380 decides it's landing time, the crosswind goes around... :x
That was some real crosswind with the A380
Good job by the pilot and that A380 makes the runway look very narrow.
@@mikeh2520 and short
Holy Moly. That LATAM 777-300ER tail strike for 8 seconds until it eventually airborne.
News media will blame it on Boeing design problems.
@@frankmoreau8847 well a couple of years ago a bad Boeing software update caused a couple of Alaska airlines 737 to tail strike within minutes of each other, due to errata in the EFB coding used to calculate take-off performance, which resulted in giving to low V1, VR and V2 speeds, so there is president.
@@frankmoreau8847 As they should. Boeing just plead guilty to fraud. Cutting costs to save a few bucks at the expense of passengers.
You side with corporations, I side with working people.
Let me guess.....Republican?
Redefining the term 'taildragger'.
1:36 That landing was beautiful. He or she knew what they was doing.
They was? I was, they were.
Thanks for adding that B-2 footage. I would love to see that live someday!
half of that LATAM plane was practically left on the runway
Many pilots are unaware that the localizer antenna is positioned on the nose of the aircraft and this means that during approaches with strong crosswinds, landing with a significant drift angle, the main landing gear will touch the ground not at the center of the runway as it should but several meters moved towards the edge of the runway, enormously limiting the possibilities of regaining the center line safely during de-crab.
The correct way to land in these conditions is to align the cockpit between the center line and the windward runway edge in proportion to the crosswind component and above all depending on the length of the fuselage between the cockpit and the main landing gear, which on very long aircraft it can even be over 30 m
Now we know where all the Aerosucre pilots went. They were hired by LATAM! 😳😮
That LATAM 777 is gonna need some MeGuiars scratch removal.
That helicopter towing a glider was unusual. How does the helicopter detach the glider and do they drop the tow cable to the ground because it would be too dangerous to wind it back into the helicopter?
Yeah was wondering about the end of the show. If the tow rope is weighted then it’s not a big deal so long as you are expecting it when the glider releases.
Great video, and no clickbait as far as I'm concerned. Thank you 🙂
That Latam 777 looked like a dog with a itchy rear end.
Strike? More like a slide
IMHO the A380 did not get blown off the centerline. You have to take into account from where the aircraft is flown. It's flown from the flight deck, which is in the very front of the aircraft. During landing pilots don't keep the center of the aircraft over the centerline, but but themselves, because that's their reference point. Even during an automatic landing the same will happen, because the localizer antenna is under the radome and it will keep the nose of the aircraft right on the centerline. Looking at the footage, the flight deck stays over the centerline almost perfectly, so I think the pilots did a good job.
I agree, it looked to me like the nosewheel touched down almost perfectly on the centerline.
@@pnwsnewton Then how come, in the Boeing 747 training manual, it specifically advises positioning the cockpit upwind of the centreline in crosswind landings? (Yes I've done the course). In an autoland the problem doesn't arise because the crosswind limitation is so low as to make the small deviation from centreline acceptable.
As a retired airline pilot, I have to differ. The objective is to land the main gear centred over the centreline.
Conversely, in my view, the pilots butts ought to be UPWIND of the centerline when approaching the threshold so that the main gear is properly over and aligned with the Centerline of the runway and not horribly downwind and askew from it. A skilled pilot then adds rudder to swing the long axis of airplane parallel to and on the centerline just as the plane is about to and or touching down. He doesn't side load the hell out of the gear (and pax necks) and simply let inertia straighten the jet. This will also prevent the furious rudder-dance that so often follows horrible crosswind landings as the jet yaws all over the runway. Having the nose gear on the centerline does no good if the rest of the jet is headed elsewhere. There are dozens of Emirates jets landing sideways on YT. It ain't pretty.
A380 had perfect approach for the conditions. When landing you want to be downwind of the centre line because when the wheels touch down, and given their angle to the runway, they will immediately try to take the aircraft to the left, which would need to be corrected by right rudder.
In that brief left movement at touchdown the aircraft can move quite a distance laterally and if you are already at the centre of the runway, you could end up too close to the lhs edge. As can be appreciated, this is problem on narrow runways with large aircraft.
If however you are right of centre you will end up in the middle which is where you want to be.
Try landing a light aircraft on a 6m wide runways in a 15 knot crosswind, you'll quickly find out what works.
As for Boeing, yes well.....
Singapore looked stunning 👌
Cool thanks for the repost 👍😎
That glider stunt was impressive!
I heard of someone dragging’ tail, but this takes it to another level!
I'll be always amazed by the sheer counterintuitiveness of the stall recovery maneuver... I mean, the plane is falling? Hey, no problem, I point it down and accelerate so it falls even faster. No wonder it's gotta be one of the most trained maneuvers, you gotta condition yourself to fight the natural urge of pulling up.
It's not counter-intuitive - there is absolutely no urge to pull up. This is because at the moment the wing loses lift the plane is not falling - there is no sensation of falling, there's no visible sign that you're falling, but the trained pilot notices the controls become sluggish & it's perfectly natural to regain control by pushing the nose down to restore wing air flow & hence lift.
@@nightjarflying”there’s absolutely no urge to pull up” tell that to the crew of Air France 447
@@Strathclydegamer Your point is absurd the flight deck of AF 447 were most likely never aware they were in a stall - the word isn't mentioned on the voice recorder. The final report on Airbus A330-203, F-GZCP, AF 447 [Rio de Janeiro - Paris]:- "The plane began to climb. During the whole climb to 38,000 feet, the crew failed to understand the situation. Even when the plane stalled and the stall warning sounded, the crew likely did not understand the stall situation they were in and so never tried to put the nose down and recover the plane from the stall. The plane remained stalled until impact with water."
@@nightjarflyingThat’s not necessarily correct. In various flight clubs I’ve visited, there’s plenty of posters reminding student pilots to nose down in a stall and not fight the drop.
Those of us with licences know better and know the procedure, but to a student or non-pilot, I can definitely see it feeling counter-intuitive initially.
@@PN_48 Never felt that way myself & reread where I wrote "trained". The key is realising one has entered a stall - at that moment the plane is rarely falling, one is usually climbing with too great an angle of attack. One applies "nose down" nearly always before the plane falls.
Love your video, and happy to have been included! Feel free to reach out anytime… your collections are very impressive! 😊
thats not a tailstrike,thats a plane with one really itchy bum.
Doggy style
Tailscrape
You sound English. "Remember: In America bum means "ass, not your midge"
That wasn't a tail strike. That was a naughty puppy scratching its ass on the carpet!
Came to the comment section for funny comments about that massive tailstrike...not disappointed :)
Thanks, if you are unfortunate enough to have a cross wind or severe wind landing situation, then the A 380 is the one to be in, size matters.
I thought the landing looked OK for the situation, but what do I know.
That tail strike was scary ngl couldn't imagine what it was like for the passengers
2:37 Bitte, Rüdiger. Keine Kapriolen!
An air show "stunt"? Two words I don't like to see together. That was nuts!
1:56 Took some extra tread off those tires.
Love the flexibility of the wings on the first video
*Excellent Video 👍🏻*
*DISCLAIMER: No wheels were lost in this episode.*
B2 - a few years back I saw one of these on the outskirts of Las Vegas, above me at probably 10k feet. It does not look right - in fact, it looks like it should be an alien craft from outer space. EXTREMELY weird.
If you watch the plane taxiing on the left you can see how the first clip is sped up for the first 18 seconds in order to make to approach appear more dramatic. Watch at 0:19 how it suddenly slows down
How you sure that the taxing plane didn't slow down intentionally ?
@@verifiedtoxicangel2411 watch how quickly it happens. It would have had to smoke the tires to actually do so, and you would have seen the nose dip at the same time. Neither of which are seen
Owwww these GE90 sounddddddd 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Love this video
Great video!
You can be quite sure that the pilot in the B-2 is highly skilled - smooth operator
1:29 BREAKING NEWS:
Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirits are now being called, "Butter Machine 2.0." This is not good news for the airbus a330.
Stay tuned for further updates!
That is one hell of a long tail strike. Sheesh.
That rolling glider is still on the tow line 😲😲😲
The LATAM's tail itched
Somebody needs to check if the aft lav is still there on that LATAM.
That LATAM plane looks like my dog wiping its butt on my rug after going outside.
I would guess that the 777 pilots go some wrong take-off data in terms take-off weight, thus V1, VR and V2 were all incorrect, so they ended up rotating too early.
And too fast from the looks of it.
LATAM decided to identify as a taildragger
Where's the link to the video with the "tailstrike"?
That 777 had a bad case of worms.
Dog owners will get this 🤣
Actually it’s often to do with blocked anal glands. Oh the smell when they are cleared. 🤢
دعوة عالمية لكل شركات الطيران في العالم ✈️🌏
0:55 😳this was a tailstrike? it was a taildrag! 🤭 good that he was able to lift, almost started slowing down because of the friction...
Usually in these a tail strike is a puff of dust. You blink and you miss it. This one was more a full feature opera. That plane needs a real inspection after that must dragging -- I would think. At leave before I fly on it.
I've never seen a glider being towed by a helicopter , just by planes. It's the helicopter not to slow for the glider to fly safely? Also if the towing cable snaps is it not too dangerous in case it gets tangled into the blades?
I’d like this channel’s videos to go dark mode.
So cool! 😁👍
0:50 they should have paid attention to the tail wheel on the Concorde.
That 380 landed late? Wow. Incredible it stopped.
That LATAM pilot must be an ex Aerosucre pilot
"Tight final turn" laughs in bushpilot.
Is LatAm trying to become the new AeroSucre...quite a few recent issues...!
b 2 was crazy
Fun fact, you can still see the crashed b2 at Whiteman AFB on Google maps
LATAM maintenance crew..."nahhh, that ain't gonna buff out"
If planes were people: that glider looked like it was having a time of its life
that "tail strike" rather looked like they were doing a minimum unstick test .... ;)
That wasnt a tail strike that tail was mining to the center of the earth 😂😂😂
Feel for the maintenance crew dealing with that tail strike
I assume there was a swivel joint in the tow rope between the helicopter and the glider. Otherwise the rope would be winding up like an elastic band on a toy plane and applying all that torsion to the helicopter.
Tailstrike? Bro Wut
I wouldn't be surprised if that LATAM 777-300ER had its tail portion separated from the body during its flight.
How that glider didn't get caught in the wake turbulence of the helicopter?
Most of the rotorwash goes downwards, so the glider is probably going to be ok directly behind or just above. But if he gets too low it could be decidedly dodgy.
The A380 was far from being blown off. It is because of the camera angle that looks like the A380 was way off the center line.
I wonder how that "tail strike" felt like from inside the plane, specially for the back rows passengers.
I think he invented a new term besides tail strike? Tail grind?..
A 380 looked like a perfect crosswind landing to me.
Just like I tell my butcher: “Grind me a couple of pounds while you’re at it”! 😵💫🤪
I do hope that ATC asked the LATAM airplane to return and land as it appears he might have pressurization problems if he doesn't.
They returned on their own I believe. I just hope repairs are done correctly and we don't see another JAL123, where a bad repair work comes back to bite them back with an explosive decompression.
I ve never heard of a tail strike from a B2 spirit
That was quite a tail strike by the LATAM.
That's not a tailstrike. That's a fissure strike for the people sitting in the back of that LATAM.
The “tail strike” looked more like a dog dragging his bottom. That aircraft has to majorly comprimised.
that wasn't a tailstrike, this was a RDM (Runway Destruction Maneuver)
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The 380 didn’t come close to going off runway - the nose wheel was on the centerline.
Wow!! ❤
is the mother of all tail strikes 0:54
Holy crap. WTF was that LATAM crew thinking?
the tailstrike was the most dangerous thing i've ever seen -- how can the pilot do that on takeoff and decide to finish the flight??
I think the pilot forgot this isn't a taildragger config.
That wasn't a tail strike, that was a tail ass whoopin.
Those aren't vortices, THEMS CHEMTRAILS!