Yes. My last two cars I went slow. This one is like to go all out eventually. Glad I put this on early. Think I’m going to throw one on the Pcv side too. Won’t gather as much but should help some. Especially when I get tuned and put more on her. Last two cars had dry sump oiling and I heard it’s coming for camaro in aftermarket very soon. Would a great track addition.
Thanks for posting this. Yup, those trays are great. When ever I'm working on an older vehicle (paint not in super condition) I stick it to the lower fender area to hold lug nuts, brake caliper bolts, etc...you can stick it to anything under the vehicle too. Just remember to take it off before you drive away ;-) (I did leave a pizza on the roof of my car once).
Yes I always saw them being used and always thought ah it’s just money not needed to be spent. But after owning I feel like it’s a must have. Nothing more annoying than looking for a bolt for hours.
Love the vid bro! Very informational! I’ve got this catch can waiting to be installed! Receiving my 2018 2SS 1LE around next week, I’ve got a catch can on my older 2014 Camaro and boy it does wonders for the longevity of your engine life!! 🙌🏼💪🏼 #camarogang
No. That’s pretty extreme. And it’s not just oil it’s actually a mixture of gas vapors too. What you get out of can usually lighter than oil. But I will be taking off my supercharger lid next week. This car has gone 20k miles without a can. I’m expecting there to be some oil in the crevices I’ll have to clean up.
I just remove mine today, my car is an evo x mr, it is a weekend warrior fun car with boltons, I have another car for dd, anyways I have a feeling that if you do not use your car regularly, the oil just dries on the pieces and it will not let enough vacuum build up to suck out the oil vapours, so for a rarely used sports car, that is not taken to the track it is not a must have, your money is better spent elsewhere.
I think it depends on a lot of factors to be honest. My camaro has a ton of blowback and the can to be honest was always half full at oil changes. All that car had was bolt ons.... what’s weird is this car now is close to 800 hp with cam and ported heads, but I don’t get near the blowback on the LS motor than I did the LT motor. So I think the motor and maybe even type of injection matter. I’m no expert though. But I have seen it worse on some vehicles than others. So you might ask other EVO owners with cans how much oil they get from their can. I have always added to vehicles regardless, but will agree some vehicles I’ve had so little it was pointless.
Not to be critical, but at 5:11, your hand covers the baffle you are describing and, beginning at 6:50, the hood darkens the area you're addressing; what happened to the light? Did you install the catch can yourself? If so, is there a video of that installation? And, in doing some research, I understand that the Mishimoto can requires the bronze baffle (in the top) to be removed periodically and cleaned (reverse blow) but you didn't mention that, so I'm wondering if it is true that it has to be removed? Wouldn't that require removing the entire assy?
I apologize and appreciate the criticism. Only way to improve. Yes it does require it to be removed. But you only need to unscrew the two top Allen screws to access the can and unscrew. Which gives access to the bronze plate in question and also to empty/clean the can. Ill also be honest about something I am learning over time... The plastic inlet and outlet screws are fail!!!. With the catch can be right over the headers, which is good, and generating heat. The plastic inlet and outlet screw on tubes seem to shrink or unscrew with heat. I have had to retighten 3 times in the 9 months since installing. Be so much better if they would have used alluminum or something else.
Just pulled my intake and it has a lot of oil down in it still even after the mishimoto. The catch can caught a OZ after 2000 miles but my intake needs a oil change as well.....
That IS NOT a magnet in the bottom of the catch can.It is a bung,which if you replace with a threaded pipe fitting allows you to fit a oil resistant rubber pipe that runs down to the subframe.Then you fit a open/close valve on the end of the rubber pipe.Means you can easily get under the car and drain the oil straight into a container .On my car I only need to drain the catch can every 5,000 miles, so I do it while changing the oil.The additional rubber pipe also increase's the total capacity of the catch can.
Didn’t know that. I’ll be honest I was disappointed with the misimoto catch can. Where it did do it’s job and I was always emptying oil/vapor trash from it; I found the plastic inlet and outlet pipes cheap. Almost like they were 3D printed. If you replaced with metal it would probably be the best can made dollar for dollar. Even a better plastic would have helped. I found after running car hard or being in hot Texas weather in summer the clamps and screw connection always were lose when hot. It would even seal back when cooling down. The plastic itself must have been shrinking.
@@OnlinecarshowNet1 The inlet and outlet fittings are now made of alloy.You're not the only UA-camr who has mentioned the plastic fittings coming loose.Seems Mishimoto took heed of the complaint's.
That’s awesome. I need one for the other side. Guess that’s the clean side? Not totally sure. I know it won’t be near as bad but if I chose to to head and cam work in the future would help.
James, let me know if you want to perform the "Catchcan Challenge" Test. Here is one done with the Mishimoto can. The goal is to stop all, or nearly all of the ingestion, and read through this thread of a 6 month detailed test performed: www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=512223 If you would like to duplicate this test on the V8 you show, let me know and will discuss providing you with the proper system to do so for another video if you choose. Cheers!
Wow great article and findings. I’ve used catch cans on three vehicles now. After you see what gunk can get in an intake and valves I became a believer for sure. Thank you for sharing and would love to do a video and test. You can reach me at james@onlinecarshow.net.
LOL metal flakes. Why are you checking for that it’s not an oil filter it’s a catch can. You won’t get any metal flakes travelling through blowback gases to a catch can.
Maybe a small leak on the lines. It shouldn’t smell... let me know. You need help you can connect to me on Instagram or my email is james@onlinecarshow.net
You're right, the cup may be filled at 4000 miles. And note you have the can in a hot area (over the headers), which is why you had very little water in the can. Do not mount them in a cool air stream. They will fill with liquid water if not hot enough.
Yes. I had one fill up and send oil and water into the intake. Engine would stumble and smoke. I did not know what was going on at first, then saw the reservoir was full. When I relocated the unit on the firewall, everything was normal and water would disappear after running for 15 minutes or more. A small amount of water is normal.
@@tarquineous Very informative! I mounted my can up near the radiator on my Impala and noticed condensation mixed in with the oil that it caught. Problem is, there isn't anywhere else to mount the can!! Guess I'll continue to empty it every other gas fill up...
Hey bro love your channel. Just subbed. I have a 2017 ss in krypton green. These cars are awesome. Just wanted to ask you what oil are u putting on your car? For my first oil change I used Mobil 1 5-30 but I wanted to see if there's anything better .
10,000 miles on my SS and essentially no oil - if you have that much blow by your break in was off. I changed the oil very early and often and don't drive the car too easy - most break-in happens in the first few hundred miles
I have the same issue trying to loosen up my catch can. Now, I just take off the hoses and then loosen the catch can. I find it easier than loosening the small little allen screws.
I bought the JTL Performance catch can for my car. It come completely assembled and the hose ends have the same quick release on them. The fitting in the catch can are plastic, which I dont like but will see how well it works out. This also has a small recovery can. The price is some what cheaper. I think I paid $139.00 . Installs the same also.
I dont know man...if it collected that much oil in such a short time, maybe there is something wrong somewhere. BTW, why would there be metal flakes? It just allows oil and water vapors to condense. Why would there be evaporated flying metal particles in the crank case. "never too late to add a catch can", "the sooner you add, the better", sounds like youre up-selling for Mishimoto .
Honestly you check my later video after owning a Mighty Mouse catch can the mishimoto has a major flaw. The plastic inlets seem to shrink with heat. I was constantly having an issue with the seals on the mishimoto and after making it public don’t think they are fans of me currently. Inlets need to be metal... the amount of oil I was getting is pretty standard with direct injection LT motor. The LS now I have about 1/10th the oil in can. As for the metal flakes I always check and seen multiple motors that had metal flakes in oil and it does show in can when you have a major internal issue believe it or not. 🥴
So if I install this on my new to me Camaro with 35k miles on it, will it eventually catch the oil that got by before the install? In other words does that old oil that wasn't caught cycle through again?
How would you like to be in a hurry to an appointment, and find out the can is full. Then drop a screw or allen wrench. My point is, these products need to be very convenient to service.
Yea that’s my only issue with this one other than price. You should just be able to unscrew empty and put back in like 5 minutes. The way the little Allen screws are setup you can’t put too much pressure unscrewing. I may change the Allen head screws out for some good Phillips or nut headed screws. Not a fan of Allen keys in general. 😂
I just put my catch can on the other day. Unfortunately I bought the car used with 30 thousand miles. Out of curiosity how many miles do you change your oil?
No worries never too late to put on a catch can. As for the oil change I typically go off what the vehicle said on the 6th gen camaro SS and change at about 30% life left with Mobil 1 or AMS OE oil. But typical long you can go 3000-5000 on synthetic oil.
MMS all the way. The mishimoto was good at collecting oil but I had hell with the plastic inlet/outlets coming lose when it heated up. Mishimoto would be perfect if it wasn’t for those plastic pieces. For that reason alone I’d go MMS or Rx catch can.
No just blowback. So I guess in a way yes. But it’s naturally going to happen and especially with the LT motors. The LS motors I’ve had get a 1/10th of the oil. Everyone I know gets about the same amount. Especially if they are pushing the car. It’s an eye opener with the LTs and worst part is since it’s direct injection once it introduces the oil to the intake nothing is there to clean off the valves. Since injection happening in the cylinders.
Yeah I love this can and the lines and the filter inside. Plus it’s worked great. I’ll do as you recommend and see if hardware store can match in metal
@@OnlinecarshowNet1 They should be able to, as there have at least 2 isles if nothing but different screws/bolts, usually, if you can fit the threads of one screw into the threads of another its a fit, just take a screw in to be sure :).
I’ll find out this week and let you know in the strut tower brace install video coming up. Just ordered the bmr twin tube brace. Good question!!! And I don’t know yet...
OnlineCarShow oh yea, I’m now at 20 thousand miles and this oil catch can has been amazing! Plus I also installed a potted throttle body and haven’t noticed too much oil within my intake manifold and old throttle body, so bonus!
After viewing I believe the threads are in normal direction. It being upside down inverted me :)
Love the flags behind you!
Always proud 💪🙌
It is crazy how much it collects ! So glad to not have the oil in my manifold. Man your ride is a baby - 3k miles
Yes. My last two cars I went slow. This one is like to go all out eventually. Glad I put this on early. Think I’m going to throw one on the Pcv side too. Won’t gather as much but should help some. Especially when I get tuned and put more on her. Last two cars had dry sump oiling and I heard it’s coming for camaro in aftermarket very soon. Would a great track addition.
Good demonstration that all of us with Camaros should get an oil catch can.
Yes these lt1 are infamous for blowback.
Thanks for posting this. Yup, those trays are great. When ever I'm working on an older vehicle (paint not in super condition) I stick it to the lower fender area to hold lug nuts, brake caliper bolts, etc...you can stick it to anything under the vehicle too. Just remember to take it off before you drive away ;-) (I did leave a pizza on the roof of my car once).
Yes I always saw them being used and always thought ah it’s just money not needed to be spent. But after owning I feel like it’s a must have. Nothing more annoying than looking for a bolt for hours.
Great video, can't wait for the strut brace!
It’s already installed. Check my 2-3 from last video
Love the vid bro! Very informational! I’ve got this catch can waiting to be installed! Receiving my 2018 2SS 1LE around next week, I’ve got a catch can on my older 2014 Camaro and boy it does wonders for the longevity of your engine life!! 🙌🏼💪🏼 #camarogang
Congrats on the 2ss 1le! Yes I’m always amazed how much comes out of the cans. It’s definitely a must have.
OnlineCarShow Thanks bro! - Most definitely!! 💪🏼
So before you put the catch can on were you going through a quart of oil between oil changes?
No. That’s pretty extreme. And it’s not just oil it’s actually a mixture of gas vapors too. What you get out of can usually lighter than oil. But I will be taking off my supercharger lid next week. This car has gone 20k miles without a can. I’m expecting there to be some oil in the crevices I’ll have to clean up.
Lol didn’t even notice this is my old catch can video. I just posted one this week on new car 😂😬
at 33k miles on my ss i am now finally buying a catch can lol.... crap im scared.
Well new zr1 has 20k and never had one either 😞. Never too late though.
@@OnlinecarshowNet1 makes me feel better lol I'm at 5k miles on my SS. Installing catch can tomorrow
Decarbonize after placing catch can
I just remove mine today, my car is an evo x mr, it is a weekend warrior fun car with boltons, I have another car for dd, anyways I have a feeling that if you do not use your car regularly, the oil just dries on the pieces and it will not let enough vacuum build up to suck out the oil vapours, so for a rarely used sports car, that is not taken to the track it is not a must have, your money is better spent elsewhere.
I think it depends on a lot of factors to be honest. My camaro has a ton of blowback and the can to be honest was always half full at oil changes. All that car had was bolt ons.... what’s weird is this car now is close to 800 hp with cam and ported heads, but I don’t get near the blowback on the LS motor than I did the LT motor. So I think the motor and maybe even type of injection matter. I’m no expert though. But I have seen it worse on some vehicles than others. So you might ask other EVO owners with cans how much oil they get from their can. I have always added to vehicles regardless, but will agree some vehicles I’ve had so little it was pointless.
I'm no mechanic - but if you find metal shavings in your catch can, you probably already heard the engine explode. 😂
No believe it or not there's a story behind that. I've seen it with my owns owns. .etal flakes in Catch Can just like in oil pan old oil.
Not to be critical, but at 5:11, your hand covers the baffle you are describing and, beginning at 6:50, the hood darkens the area you're addressing; what happened to the light? Did you install the catch can yourself? If so, is there a video of that installation? And, in doing some research, I understand that the Mishimoto can requires the bronze baffle (in the top) to be removed periodically and cleaned (reverse blow) but you didn't mention that, so I'm wondering if it is true that it has to be removed? Wouldn't that require removing the entire assy?
I apologize and appreciate the criticism. Only way to improve. Yes it does require it to be removed. But you only need to unscrew the two top Allen screws to access the can and unscrew. Which gives access to the bronze plate in question and also to empty/clean the can. Ill also be honest about something I am learning over time... The plastic inlet and outlet screws are fail!!!. With the catch can be right over the headers, which is good, and generating heat. The plastic inlet and outlet screw on tubes seem to shrink or unscrew with heat. I have had to retighten 3 times in the 9 months since installing. Be so much better if they would have used alluminum or something else.
I would guess they are standard thread and available in steel to replace; maybe Locktite Blue?
Just pulled my intake and it has a lot of oil down in it still even after the mishimoto. The catch can caught a OZ after 2000 miles but my intake needs a oil change as well.....
Yeah lt1 is bad on oil vapes. 😩😩😩. My cam is almost filled after about 3000 miles I think
I change about every 2000
That IS NOT a magnet in the bottom of the catch can.It is a bung,which if you replace with a threaded pipe fitting allows you to fit a oil resistant rubber pipe that runs down to the subframe.Then you fit a open/close valve on the end of the rubber pipe.Means you can easily get under the car and drain the oil straight into a container .On my car I only need to drain the catch can every 5,000 miles, so I do it while changing the oil.The additional rubber pipe also increase's the total capacity of the catch can.
Didn’t know that. I’ll be honest I was disappointed with the misimoto catch can. Where it did do it’s job and I was always emptying oil/vapor trash from it; I found the plastic inlet and outlet pipes cheap. Almost like they were 3D printed. If you replaced with metal it would probably be the best can made dollar for dollar. Even a better plastic would have helped. I found after running car hard or being in hot Texas weather in summer the clamps and screw connection always were lose when hot. It would even seal back when cooling down. The plastic itself must have been shrinking.
@@OnlinecarshowNet1 The inlet and outlet fittings are now made of alloy.You're not the only UA-camr who has mentioned the plastic fittings coming loose.Seems Mishimoto took heed of the complaint's.
With that much oil you are catching. Are you having to top the car off with oil every time you empty the catch can?
No it’s not quite that bad but it is amazing how much it catches.
I need one of these
I highly recommend it especially with gm motors.
Semper Fi !!
Sempra Fi Brother
Oil not awl
Coupon not cuepon
Towel not towl
😂😂😂😂😂😂. Sorry was sick and west Texas slang comes out sometimes 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
And I work in the Awl industry 😂😂
I'd like to see the inside of return line.
Already sold this car but my new zr1 I just installed a catch can. Give me a month or two and I’ll show what your requesting...
Im not surprised. I've been making my own catch cans for decades. especially for my diesel vehicles the have even more blowby.
That’s awesome. I need one for the other side. Guess that’s the clean side? Not totally sure. I know it won’t be near as bad but if I chose to to head and cam work in the future would help.
James, let me know if you want to perform the "Catchcan Challenge" Test. Here is one done with the Mishimoto can. The goal is to stop all, or nearly all of the ingestion, and read through this thread of a 6 month detailed test performed: www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=512223 If you would like to duplicate this test on the V8 you show, let me know and will discuss providing you with the proper system to do so for another video if you choose. Cheers!
Wow great article and findings. I’ve used catch cans on three vehicles now. After you see what gunk can get in an intake and valves I became a believer for sure. Thank you for sharing and would love to do a video and test. You can reach me at james@onlinecarshow.net.
I defiantly need to get me one just been getting other stuff but it's next
Yea with intake my mechanic said it’s a must have for carbon reduction.
LOL metal flakes. Why are you checking for that it’s not an oil filter it’s a catch can. You won’t get any metal flakes travelling through blowback gases to a catch can.
Everyone shows how much oil they catch but all the videos I watched never shows the return side. You should do a quick video show just that
Roger Carlin, there is no “return side”. The can is simple in and out, no return.
I’ve been waiting for this follow up video..solid work👍
Thanks man. Yea had to show results. Appreciate the compliment.
I don't know for you, but since I've put the catch can the car smells oil but there is no leak..?
Maybe a small leak on the lines. It shouldn’t smell... let me know. You need help you can connect to me on Instagram or my email is james@onlinecarshow.net
You're right, the cup may be filled at 4000 miles. And note you have the can in a hot area (over the headers), which is why you had very little water in the can. Do not mount them in a cool air stream. They will fill with liquid water if not hot enough.
I didn’t know that. That’s good to know. So the front mounted ones near radiator are actually in a bad spot.
Yes. I had one fill up and send oil and water into the intake. Engine would stumble and smoke. I did not know what was going on at first, then saw the reservoir was full. When I relocated the unit on the firewall, everything was normal and water would disappear after running for 15 minutes or more. A small amount of water is normal.
@@tarquineous Very informative! I mounted my can up near the radiator on my Impala and noticed condensation mixed in with the oil that it caught. Problem is, there isn't anywhere else to mount the can!! Guess I'll continue to empty it every other gas fill up...
Hey bro love your channel. Just subbed. I have a 2017 ss in krypton green. These cars are awesome. Just wanted to ask you what oil are u putting on your car? For my first oil change I used Mobil 1 5-30 but I wanted to see if there's anything better .
I’d stay away from royal purple. If you use you will always have to use. I’m still on free dealership oil
Mobil 1 is perfectly fine. Don’t waste money on ams oil or redline unless you’re tracking your car or beating the shit out of it.
Does it void the warranty?
no
10,000 miles on my SS and essentially no oil - if you have that much blow by your break in was off. I changed the oil very early and often and don't drive the car too easy - most break-in happens in the first few hundred miles
I have the same issue trying to loosen up my catch can. Now, I just take off the hoses and then loosen the catch can. I find it easier than loosening the small little allen screws.
I bought the JTL Performance catch can for my car. It come completely assembled and the hose ends have the same quick release on them. The fitting in the catch can are plastic, which I dont like but will see how well it works out. This also has a small recovery can. The price is some what cheaper. I think I paid $139.00 . Installs the same also.
Yes inlet and outlet on this mishimoto are plastic too. I’m constantly retightening them 😩
I dont know man...if it collected that much oil in such a short time, maybe there is something wrong somewhere. BTW, why would there be metal flakes? It just allows oil and water vapors to condense. Why would there be evaporated flying metal particles in the crank case. "never too late to add a catch can", "the sooner you add, the better", sounds like youre up-selling for Mishimoto .
Honestly you check my later video after owning a Mighty Mouse catch can the mishimoto has a major flaw. The plastic inlets seem to shrink with heat. I was constantly having an issue with the seals on the mishimoto and after making it public don’t think they are fans of me currently. Inlets need to be metal... the amount of oil I was getting is pretty standard with direct injection LT motor. The LS now I have about 1/10th the oil in can. As for the metal flakes I always check and seen multiple motors that had metal flakes in oil and it does show in can when you have a major internal issue believe it or not. 🥴
Very nice video James. It is scary at how much those things do catch. I have not emptied mine yet but it is getting close to that time.
Camaro Time yea added to last two vettes and my 02 TA. They are a must I think
So if I install this on my new to me Camaro with 35k miles on it, will it eventually catch the oil that got by before the install? In other words does that old oil that wasn't caught cycle through again?
No it will catch future blowback though
How would you like to be in a hurry to an appointment, and find out the can is full. Then drop a screw or allen wrench.
My point is, these products need to be very convenient to service.
Yea that’s my only issue with this one other than price. You should just be able to unscrew empty and put back in like 5 minutes. The way the little Allen screws are setup you can’t put too much pressure unscrewing. I may change the Allen head screws out for some good Phillips or nut headed screws. Not a fan of Allen keys in general. 😂
Awesome video moshimoto is what I'm buying next
Sirhc CcM Thank you. I agree for the money it’s a great deal. Did it job and looks good
You may have said in the video but I missed it ... Is that a 2 stage or 3 port can ?
I just put my catch can on the other day. Unfortunately I bought the car used with 30 thousand miles. Out of curiosity how many miles do you change your oil?
No worries never too late to put on a catch can. As for the oil change I typically go off what the vehicle said on the 6th gen camaro SS and change at about 30% life left with Mobil 1 or AMS OE oil. But typical long you can go 3000-5000 on synthetic oil.
@@OnlinecarshowNet1 Thank you!
Hey man would you recommend the mishimoto or the Mighty Mouse catch can?
MMS all the way. The mishimoto was good at collecting oil but I had hell with the plastic inlet/outlets coming lose when it heated up. Mishimoto would be perfect if it wasn’t for those plastic pieces. For that reason alone I’d go MMS or Rx catch can.
So you must be loosing oil since it’s going to the catch can.
No just blowback. So I guess in a way yes. But it’s naturally going to happen and especially with the LT motors. The LS motors I’ve had get a 1/10th of the oil. Everyone I know gets about the same amount. Especially if they are pushing the car. It’s an eye opener with the LTs and worst part is since it’s direct injection once it introduces the oil to the intake nothing is there to clean off the valves. Since injection happening in the cylinders.
Go down to ACE and match the screws with metal versions, problem solved :D, planing to do a stage 1 & 2 catch can setup. thanks for the vid :D.
Yeah I love this can and the lines and the filter inside. Plus it’s worked great. I’ll do as you recommend and see if hardware store can match in metal
@@OnlinecarshowNet1 They should be able to, as there have at least 2 isles if nothing but different screws/bolts, usually, if you can fit the threads of one screw into the threads of another its a fit, just take a screw in to be sure :).
Awesome beautiful CAMARO! Nice color too!
Thank you. Have to thank the wife for pushing me on the red. Had 4 black musclecars in the past.
Will you have to remove the strut brace every time you empty the catch can??
I’ll find out this week and let you know in the strut tower brace install video coming up. Just ordered the bmr twin tube brace. Good question!!! And I don’t know yet...
That would be a poor installation. There will be times when the service needs to be quick.
Mine is coming in, in about a week and I have 17,245 miles, I'm scared :(
Your fine. But the sooner you add the better.
OnlineCarShow oh yea, I’m now at 20 thousand miles and this oil catch can has been amazing! Plus I also installed a potted throttle body and haven’t noticed too much oil within my intake manifold and old throttle body, so bonus!
That’s great news. Yeah more mods adds more blowback so good you added before adding go mods
checking for metal shavings in PCV vapor? lol u're crazy
Lol. I’m always paranoid after having them on a car before.
OnlineCarShow check ur oil filter bro
Oh trust me I check dip stick and filter too