@@linkskywalker5417 No, change is incited by unfairness at the extreme levels. Change by fleeing, change by altering the system, or change by leaving a country that persecutes you to create a new ration based on free speech and religion. Totalitarian regimes are often incited by people who want power and control, while the reason why they get their is just an excuse along the way.
@@GenUrobutcher Yet most dictators like hitler, or mussolini lived in a society that was already the most fair to them. The only thing that changed it that it was more unfair to people who disagreed with them.
@@linkskywalker5417 No, they are incited by those who take advantage of others, they just tend to use the "it's not fair" phraseology to incite the unwary into giving them all the power.
finally.....i've been asking that question for years... what is fair.. never got an answer till now....well done, someone forward this to Bernie Sanders....
You know what is not fair, the top 1% paying less in effective tax rate than the working class. A more realistic cake analogy is Jane pays 4$ but getting 77% of the cake, you have to share 23% of the cake with your 8 brothers.
@@mochithepooh5368 " you have to share 23% of the cake with your 8 brothers." what and why jane should get more than half if she paid less? "1% paying less in effective tax rate than the working class." not true.
if they've silenced you into tucking your tail between your legs and not calling out the unfair tax system in this country, then your a fool. The rich know how easily gullible ppl like you can be mind phuqed.
@Jacques Vermeulen well, start on a nation by nation basis and make equal access to education a priority. Then go from there. Right now it is not about inmediate and perfect equality of opportunities, but rather moving into the right direction.
@@andaros2106 In this case accessible education for everyone is the right direction. We can make the choice by voting for the politicians that share this view, that is one possibility.
No, fairness is equality of law. You cannot have equality of opportunities. For example, we from the start have very unequal physical and cognitive abilities. Also, if you were born in a rich family and your parents read a book a day, you have so much more opportunities to succeed than if you were born from a poor drug addict single mom and put into a shelter at age 5. Education of our parents is crucial when it comes to succeeding in a society, socialization under age 5 is the most important period of our life and whether we like it or not, it decides a loooot about our future. Language skills, emotional control, and overall knowledge are very dependent on where we were born, it's a myth to think that just because we all go to school this is equal opportunity, it's not, and im not even talking about preferential education based on wealth. That doesn't mean we are doomed, but some start to run at the top of the hill and others have to climb it.
@@aidencurl2532 The fortune is right, INCOME tax is a fine for doing well. There are other forms of tax which economists would argue are better (eg. land value tax, consumption tax, tax on externalities)
I'm always suprised when I encounter anyone who knows much about either love or war. . God is the author and foremost example of love, but the vast majority of people choose enmity with God. War is an endeavor which is harder to master than brain surgery, but professional warriors are actually more essential to the life of a free nation in a sick world than a doctor is to a sick patient. As for the phrase, "All's fair..." it seems to be a Descriptive thing that could be perverted by thinking it to be a Prescriptive thing which would be neither lovely, nor the way of a noble warrior.
Perfect example: My brother and I grew up in the exact same household. Had the same exact upbringing, had excellent parents that are still together to this day. We literally had the exact same opportunities growing up. However, I decided I wanted quality friends and to put myself through college. Whereas he was more interested in hanging out with burnouts, not saving his money, and he dropped out of school in 10th grade. Now he's a 38 year old with two kids living in my parents basement, whereas I am a 31 year old that lives on his own and has a small business and just turned our first six figure year. Guess which one of us blames everyone else and blames the world just isn't "fair"? Also, you guessed it, he's a lunatic Democrat where I lean more to the Republican side of things. We live in the United States of America, where we only get out as much as we put in.
@domhnall777 yeaaaah conservatives are confederates...its not the libtards...the confederates are conservatives...yeaaah Abraham Lincoln was a libtard democrat...yeah lets never read history books again so that we can stay dumb...opsss i mean smart forever...
@domhnall777 should history be ignored because you don't like it or disagree with what happened? Should we erase someone's legacy because of one bad thing they did? If that's the case, then no one should ever be honored with a statue, plaque, or even a photo hanging on a wall somewhere. People are not perfect.
@@Karamarika In ancient times it was common practice to tear down the monuments and temples of defeated enemies. As for erasing someone's legacy I disagree with that, but there are other ways of doing so such as museums and document. To have a statue for someone is to literally put their ideals and character on a pedestal. While the Confederate generals were mostly good people the cause they are most known for supporting and fighting for is slavery. (I hate to use Hitler as an example, but he's the most infamous and I lack sufficient knowledge of every other example.) It's like if the Germans erected a statue of Hitler for getting them out of the depression. While he did technically accomplish that his good deeds are overshadowed by his evil deeds. While the Confederates are nowhere near as evil as the Nazis this doesn't mean we should try to prop up what they stood for as something that should be looked up to. (Yes I know it wasn't all about slavery, but slavery happens to be the most infamous cause.)
What's NOT fair are mafias and unions that band together to set minimum fees and eliminate competition. Realtors 6% commission regardless of work done; government fees with no competitor; referrals by judges; lawyer fees; taxes and more.
@@borisboris9524 So Venezuela, and North Korea... like those places? Places with more human rights abuse than anywhere else. I would prefer possessions to slavery or death. Also, possessions aren’t what makes one greedy... where is that coming from? Is it that root of all evil thing? (Yes I’m baiting a trap.)
Good on you! I have 3 kids. 2 of them are teenagers. I have the "fairness" debate with them constantly. One day i believe they will join you in understanding that "fair" is not always what one thinks it is.
BoB M Exactly, i enjoyed the cake example. Fair would be paying for what you got, equality would be paying equally and having half. I enjoyed that example and will use it when explaining my viewpoint to others.
I use it sometimes in discussions but always followed by an ironic "but it do be like that sometimes". Life is not 'fair' but you have to deal with the cards you get.
"The only way to measure the economic value of a service is to see how much others are prepared to pay for it." This is why we should do away with Public schools and encourage "charter schools" Let the tax dollars follow the child not the school districts.
Careful with that one, it is a country, not a company. We already have a real world manifestation of that philosophy: Private universities. Charter schools enjoy a witches brew of the guarantee of public funding, but the freedom of private enterprise. Oh sure, they look good on paper, but they can expel problem students, to include those with learning disabilities. With public schools, no such luxury exists, a student gets expelled, that student is still in the system. The free market system is not above criticism either, look no further than the gilded age of the late 1800's. Child labor, homelessness, education only to those that can afford it, corruption, and most famous of all, food. While I too enjoy Prager's content, I'm no sycophant. The free market has had more than enough chances to clean up its act, and still chooses not to. Don't believe me? Look up "wage fraud", the economic damage that daily everyman crime committed dwarfs anything Madoff has caused.
Your sentiment is right, but a "charter" school is simply a private entity that has the "charter" to administer the Duties of a public school. It is school choice and, as you point out, money following the child that makes the difference.
My mom always use to say to me - "Who says life is fair? It never did and it won't be." As I grew older I realize that, that was true. Because if it was fair, everybody is living in a dreamland. You make your own destiny and only you can make your dreams come true. You work hard for it in order to get what you want. You earn it. Stop whining that it isn't fair because it won't.
@@willhiggins9563 The only people who "know PragerU is full of BS," are the people who are either too cowardly to properly and reasonably consider the information (which is verifiable) in the videos... or people too stupid and immoral to want to accept that the video contains truth they refuse to acknowledge - while their own perspective might be WRONG. Which type of person are you, Will?
@@willhiggins9563 Will, you show your ignorance with every post! What "MO"? The videos are straightforward; they promote beliefs and policies a lot of people also believe, and support; so, what "MO" is happening here? Either the information in the videos is true, important, and accepted; or it isn't! Now, if you want to debate specific videos or points; let's do that! But don't be a wuss and just make pronouncements like "PragerU has a MO," and just expect people to nod their heads! Don't you have any self-pride? Can't you reason out for us WHY you think the way you do? Can't you share insights and experiences that help convince people PragerU is wrong about something... other than just saying gimmicky responses like "PragerU has an MO"? If you can't be specific, offer specific reasons, or defend your positions specifically... then you're useless here - and you prove why SO many of you on the Left RUN away from people like me, and the right! You can't defend your precepts and principles... *because you have none!* If you did - you'd be engaging me in a debate right now; starting with PragerU's so-called "MO"! You refuse to - so you present yourself as nothing more than a CHILD among adults!
There is such a thing as fair. It doesn't mean everybody gets a trophy and free money from the government. Fair means that cops aren't above the law, politicians have to live by the laws they make, corporations can't buy off politicians and judges, court trials aren't won by the richest party, pharmaceutical companies can't raise drug prices by 400%, etc. etc. etc. There is a level of unfairness in this country that should not exist and something should be done about it.
The problem with framing, unfortunately, is that the people can use a word, such as "just", and change its meaning based on examples. "It would be *just* if the baker makes more than the banker because of the hardships the baker has to go through that the banker does not. Therefore, justice should be enacted and a portion of the banker's wealth should be given to the baker. Because it's just." Don't think for one second that English is the reason framing exists. Remember the Germans justified the Holocaust, in German, because it was framed that they were the problem.
the definition of fair according to google is: just or honest. PragerU just work to make us americans feel like fools for calling out the unfair tax system. We contribute a good chunk of our paychecks to the IRS, while the rich contribute zero. We're carrying the burden of our dept whole the rich are laughing at us. And that's not fair!
I remember as a kid a story about a duck that wanted to bake some bread. She asked the pig to help her with cutting the grain. The pig didn't want to help. She went to the bunny, she didn't want to help. She went to the goat, he didn't want to help. So she took all day to make the bread and everyone wanted to eat the loaf when she was done. But she said no none of you did anything to deserve this, why should i let you benefit at no sacrifice from you. I like that story alot more seeing all the entitled babies in this generation.
I’ve been told it’s not fair that I own 4 cars while some can’t afford 1! When tell them 2 of those cars are 21 years old , 1 is 10 years old , 1 is 7 years old and that I do MOST of the maintenance and repairs I’m told it’s not fair that I was “born” with the talent of fixing cars while most people weren’t.
I taught my children that in life, there is no "fairness fairy". Study hard, work diligently, be kind to others and expect that success is predicated upon their efforts, nothing else. I wish people "best of luck, and by luck, I mean those things we do to create opportunities for ourselves". My kids are well-adjusted and successful. Can't ask for more than that.
I think the best definition of fair that I have seen can be summed up in this quote from a webnovel. "The prerequisite of fairness is efficiency. If one thing fails to achieve the goal, it could not be called as fair. The purpose of the imperial examination system in the mortal world is to select people who are erudite and capable. Therefore, it is fair to be an official through study, and it is unfair to spend money to buy an official post. But if it is in the auction, it is fair for the one who bid the highest get the item." (Once upon a time there was a spirit sword mountain, chapter 592) Therefore I believe that determining fairness requires a goal. If we decide the market's goal is to ensure people are properly compensated for their labor and the products that are produced than a completely free market is not the best solution. This is largely because of the presence of dishonesty and corruption. Markets can and have historically lied about the products they sell (Addictive drugs in medicine and food). From a free market perspective, this could theoretically be resolved by reviews and companies that rate and recommend products. However, companies have been shown to be very capable of manipulating information. In this cases like these the government should intervene as its officials while still capable of being corrupt have an incentive to not do so as they can be removed by the will of the people who put them there. Now we run into another problem, these government offices cost money and many people who stand to benefit from it are paying nothing. Now this creates a new conflict as the government is clearly unable to meet the initial goals of the market. Therefore we can continue to try to make the government's goal the same as the market (like how Chinese government owned businesses compete with Private business) or change the goal of the government. Thus we have conflicts over the government's goal and how best to meet it. I will stop here as this can go on forever with no final answer. My point is that while I respect and often agree with the principles and ideas behind PragerU's solutions/suggestions I find that they often tend to give a solution as it is the only solution without offering opposing viewpoints or straw manning the opposition when they do. If anyone has any suggestions on how to resolve the dilemma of fairness or disagrees with my opinions please give me a reply and sorry for the long comment.
Question: Do you all think it's fair when small businesses have to pay hefty taxes/follow strict regulations, yet giant corporations can use influence and money to sway laws in their favor?
The fair comes once a year. Its here for 5 days and at the end i have went for a few hours to look at the crafts and live stock. And by then i have had enuff of the fair. Then its time to go back to reality and not worry about what my neighbor has or how he got it or what he is doing.
They should be. Or better yet, no one should be. There is no criteria that makes women unable to serve in the modern military, so if there's a need for a draft system it should apply to both genders.
The amount of money you earn can determine your lifestyle. The money you earn is proportional to the value you provide. And the worth of your value is determined by what people will pay for it... And you provide value by having skills... You can work in ANY industry and earn millions of dollars if that is your goal or be financially free. If you're the best Baker in the country, then become good at selling your cakes nationwide. If you're a good janitor and you do a great job but you work minimum wage, then learn the skills necessary to get your own clients, run a business and do it! The problem today is people want 'things' but they Don't want to put forth the required effort. "So you so shall you reap" this is a natural law.
One of my high school teachers used to say "if life was fair, there would be no wheelchairs" This I think sums up how life goes. We deal with the cards we are dealt. As for market fairness or financial fairness, our system seeks to encourage people to succeed by providing financial incentives which could be interpreted as 'unfair'.
How can you say the free market is the perfect (and only) solution? People born into poverty was undoubtably have less opportunities to make money. Imagine starting your monopoly game with just $10. This kind of bad circumstance is not accounted for by a perfectly free market. We should strive for a fairer society.
PragerU does the same thing in another video they made called "are progressive taxes fair" here's a link to it ua-cam.com/video/junBJZRDFzk/v-deo.html Edit: I meant to say "is America's tax system fair"
In 2013, I was once served by a waitress who was wearing an Obama shirt. So I asked her what about him did she like. She said his tax plan. So I said, so you think the rich paying the poor is fair. She said yes. So then, I should take the money for the tip and give it to the homeless person outside? After all, you have a job; he doesn't. You're richer than he is. And that is the fair thing to do, right? Strangely, she didn't agree with that.
What is fair during a divorce? Is it fair the higher earning spouse (in a 10 year marriage) must pay alimony to his lower earning spouse who refuses to work full time, get promotions and raises? (An argument could be made for a 1-year severance, but for 6-8 years?!) Imagine if this were done in the workplace? You QUIT a job of 10 years and the EMPLOYER must pay a severance for 6-8 years? Is it fair that the higher earning spouse must pay child support even though custody is 50/50 and the children are equally his and her financial responsibility? In my opinion this is all not fair. The only way to make it fair is for people either not to enter into a marriage or get a prenup before they marry.
I can relate to the "fairness" of the story below. The word fairness is often misused by people who didn´t put in the effort. The example of the two brothers with the same upbringing and opportunities perfectly shows this idea. One of them has smoked ten joints a day since his early teen years, quits school, is lazy and has friends with the same bad habits. The other studied, graduated as a doctor, surrounded himself by people with the same ambitions, AND took care of the family business after their father passed away. Is it fair that both get the same share of the family business profits? There's a huge gap between having rights and fairness. Justice should be to give someone what he deserves, not what he expects for being born. Thank you for the video.
Equal opportunity or equal outcome, which is fair? Pretty simple really, equal opportunity and let the person determine their own pursuit for happiness.
There are to many impossabilities for equal oppurtunity. Number one we are all at different starting points. Then there is when and where you were born. Your parents and other socialisation affects. Biological and mental differences. It is better for more equal outcomes. That is actually the social structure we evolved in to and as a species spent most of our existance in. High levels of inequality only began around 10 to 15 thousand years ago.
@@josephde-haan1074 understand but that is discrimination at its core. I grew up on welfare but am now considered to be in a position of "privilege". My parents taught me hard work and never take or accept shortcuts. I put myself in a position of success just like those around me could have, i created my own luck and success. Anyway, would you also make sports an equal outcome gain? Its not equal outcome we should be considering, it is helping people understand their choices.
@@JK-hj7cf Absolutely none of what you wrote relates to my comment. All you said is what so many self obsessed people have said (And there is a lot of us.) 'I come from shit and I made something great of myself. If I can do it, anyone can.' it means nothing. It takes nothing about the diversity of peoples lives, geography, time, biology and many other factors in to consideration. Also the accepted value systems we give to things like sports is made up under a tacit, involuntary (You were born in to it.) agreement. It's subjective and fluid. The sports analogy is another boring, hackneyed argument against equal outcomes. Let me use the analogy differently. If you are good at sport you can have a house, have children, have food and energy and other lovely things. If you are not good at sport and are unable to achieve the required outcomes you are unneccassary to society and can die for all us sports people care. I'm not trying to tell you what to think. I am a big fan of critical thinking. I run a work shop on critical thinking and think it provides the best available tools to get a more accurate understanding of the world we live in.
@@josephde-haan1074 didn't read your comment in full as has deteriated unfortunately. Critical thinker though, yes very critical. Competition is something that needs to also be considered and the intangible affects diminishing it. But it all depends to what degree peoples position is as to the level of equal outcome. Anyway, best of luck Joseph.
I don’t care if taxing on the rich is not “fair” by definition. It’s just the right thing to do. Language or atleast the English language doesn’t have strict lines on words, if people use a word for a different meaning it gets that meaning. Saying “I’m going to start.” doesn’t make sense, “start” is not a place, but “going to” got a new definition. Language changes.
when we say we want to tax the rich more the reason we want that is because rich people dont just make more money than the rest of us they make it in a different way. when i go to my job as a line cook i am paid a wage set by an employer for the time i work, but the resturant owner is paid the surplus value of my labour. the owner doesnt actually do anything except own the facility and the stove and the plates and freezer and everything in the resturant
@@linkskywalker5417 You mean the unfairness of existence? That's like if the planet Mars complained it doesn't have life growing on it. When 99%+ of the universe doesn't have life. Society in most modern countries are as fair as its gonna get, unless you want to be dumped into the wilderness, and see how you "Fair" for yourselves. (Intentional pun.)
@ChaiwatThATprotonmailDOTcom And chefs who serve the rich and powerful should be paid more than chefs at fancy restaurants because the rich and powerful demand the best and as such, the best chefs are required.
Daniel Hannan is one of my favourite political figures. He was Member of European Parliament for where I live (South East England) and his book Inventing Freedom was truly a masterpiece! Plus his Oxford Union debate in 2013 about why socialism doesn’t work was excellent too. Thank you so much PragerU for having him on!!
As a baker I know a banker’s work is worth more. When I mess up my bread tastes funny. When the banker messes up somebody might end up in jail or the poorhouse.
“Adults have started using the word in much the same ways that teenagers do” Isn’t this the same channel that cried about “happy holidays” being used instead of “marry Christmas”?
What's your point? It's bad to act like an immature teenager and it's also bad to try to ban Merry Christmas someone might get offended. If they do, they're probably an immature adult.
Rules of life (1 and 2 are unavoidable) #1 Life is NOT fair. #2 You are not actually entitled to anything good in Life. #3 Where there is life, there is hope.
claudia church yes because the people who are funded by oil barons such as the Koch brothers are completely reasonable and unbiased when they say climate change is a myth
@@lizardguy4236 But climate change is a myth, in that we cause it ,it is just fluctuations and patterns that would happen anyway , that is not to say that we to need to be polluting rivers and we use and dispose of too much plastic , but the ice caps have not melted and all the dire predictions of the passing decades have not happened this is just a cover up for the far more dangerous phenomena of personal technology where people are more interactive with their cell phones then in real conversations and interactions with other people , people have no sense of self, no core they clutch on to every passing social fad because most people are utterly lost
right! I mean how dare us say that our tax system is unfair. In that we carry the burden of our trillions of dollars dept, while the rich sail away on their yachts! While we're busy working and giving a good chunk of our paycheck to the IRS, they're working to make tax laws that protect them, so they can pay zero. How dare us call them out and recognize that it's not fair!
claudia church who told you that scientists or oil barons also the ice caps are melting Greenland definitively has been losing ice for years and so has the eastern ice sheets in Antarctica I assume you watched the Steven crowed video on the topic but the article he cited didn’t debunk climate change watch hbomberguy for details
@@lizardguy4236 no sorry didn't watch the video you cited I was referring to the article Analysis there is no climate change emergency published in Clintel.nl by 6 very respected scientists take a look at it and you will see where I am coming from
He makes good sense. I remember when my son said “That’s not fair!” My response was “I never told you life is fair. I wouldn’t lie to you like that.” He never said it again. I taught my children that life is what you make it. Prager U has it right. We have a bunch of adults acting like entitled children these days. I don’t understand how people can even think about functioning as adults with the “fair” mindset.
I firmly believe the question shouldn't be about whether the free market system works, because it clearly does. The question should be about whether or not the machine is working properly... whether it be through manipulation or inevitability. In a place like the US, the fairness question comes about so often because of the birth lottery and brand name phenomena. Birth lottery effect: Determines where you are born (NYC or Detroit? Good school districts or bad? Good job market or bad?) and initial socioeconomic resources. This is the biggie, as the correlation between that and success is staggering. Brand name effect: Kid #1 busts his ass and works two jobs to get through school with a top notch GPA, Kid #2 had his parents pay full tuition and never even worked during those 4 years. Both finish with similar GPA's, achievements, and have the same major. Kid #1 went to a state school and Kid #2 went to Harvard. Kid #2 gets carte blanche access to recruitment channels at top firms as a result, and Kid #1 is forced to start his career cold calling because he wasn't at a target school (and crushing debt as a bonus). PragerU is right in the sense that when people complain about fairness they need to be more specific and less ambiguous about what they actually mean. The answer shouldn't rely on arbitrary estimates of how much the rich should be paying... the answer should depend on which actions can be undertaken to mitigate the two toxic effects. How do we make it so that kids in the US have access to similar quality *PUBLIC* education, and how to we make it so that antiquated reliance on ivy league institutions and their questionable quality advantages over lesser known schools is reduced? Our school and university systems need to be more standardized across the country, doing this would erase so many of the directly observable feedback loops that makes others feel left out. Perception is reality and so long as the internet allows us to peek into the lives of others, people will be noticing those differences in privilege and will grow angrier until something is done to dampen that perception.
I remember when I was a little kid whining about "That's not fair!" Adults always laughed at me and told me that life isn't fair. It seems strange that now we have supposed adults who now whine about how unfair everything is. Apparently adults no longer tell children that life isn't fair?
so yo believe that grown americans are fools because they acknowledge that the current tax system in unfair in that the rich pay zero in taxes? PragerU has you believing that we're all running around screaming unfair about everything. When in reality, we're just calling out the rich corporations who use our congress to exempt themselves from paying into the system, like we have to.
@@MBasu-km8by he just means that the rich don't pay proportional to everyone else. while progressive tax is unfair to the rich, a flat tax is even more unfair to the poor. America last year earned 3.5 trillion (check my figure) in tax revenue and there are around 200 million 18 and older (and therefore tax eligible) citizens in the US. Divide that figure you get around $17,500. Not great for the poor. The average household makes around 90K, that's a lotta damage.
If we take the example of “playing a game”... the rules of the game tend to be that everyone starts with the same money AND same rules apply to everyone... I don’t see the video cover that aspect
I'm italian and I think this: It's a matter of potential: if you start from a lower point (low education, hard childhood, parental problems...) And the environment Is not offering you opportunity to rise Money, as lack of job market demand, you won't get enough Money to pay for your needs and taxes will'appear heavier. For this I Stick with the proportional taxes method.
So, essentially, the more you put into something, the more you should get out of it. Seems logical to me. I don't know how other people argue against this.
I think the problem is people grow up so much they can’t look down at the problems they cannot see anymore, and they put forward a government letting bad things happen to good people, instead of dealing with problems. Hence Trump.
@@topsecret1837 If people would grow up so much then we'd be full with great philosophers and thinkers which would be awesome! The real problem is there are more childish people than rational ones.
My grandmother's response when I used to shout that life wasn't fair: "A fair is a place where you go to spend too much, eat too much, and throw up everything you ate. Who wants a life like that?"
Is it fair that the interest rate on the poors savings is zero after inflation, which at the same time, pushes up the prices of stocks and real estate because money for the rich is cheap?
Exactly, it cant be "FAIR" Trade unless the government stops the monopolies of corporations!! Perfect example..6 companys own all of MSM, yet that keeps anyone who would like the opportunity to start their own out of reach. Google has the monopoly on internet and its impossible to try to start your own with the legal system on the side of who can pay more money!!!
Interest in bank accounts seems pretty flat to me. It only makes a difference when you are getting interest on $2,000 compared to 2,000,000. Maybe you should find out what that millionaire did to become wealthy.
@@shewolfee4247 I'm just sick of hearing conservatives like this talk about fair lmao they all own stocks and real estate so they benefit from the feds policy, therefore don't want to rock the boat. The poor have been priced out of the housing market due to cheap money. Hence why socialism is on the rise and the talk of what is FAIR. It's socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor. Look at the repo market atm. Around 50billion a night the fed is printing. To keep rates low. OK.
@@Waynesworrldexcellent Yeah I'm at a point of being tired of flavor of the month labels...Democrats, Republicans, liberals, leftist, right wing...I just wish everyone would stop with this blaming others and realize we are all humans, and we are individuals! Stop acting like everyone else is dumb, and trying to force a certain ideology on others!!!
the other thing your "my money is the same as yours" comment ignires is that rich people dont buy things in cash really anymore the economy is increasingly credit based and a rich persons credit is more valubal than a poor persons. like if jeff bezos goes to a bank and wants to expand amazons capital they will loan him however much he needs but i cant go to a bank ask for more than like 10k.
This video effectively summarizes the case that Hayek had argued in his "The Knowledge problem". For one to distribute effectively, one has to effectively gather every small bit of information which is impossible😀😀
Fairness is complex... thus it cannot be made a blanket statement. It has to be precise. Especially because not only is there no shortage of unfairness and thrownness in existence, we can get it dangerously wrong in a malicious way when we choose a type of fairness and, regardless of the choice, we take it too far, fast and hard. I think we need to acknowledge all possible conceptions of what fairness can be and bring them all to the table and decide which ones to put forth to fix a multi-level complex issue. And the definition and decision of fairness can change again to account for another multi-level complex issue, that differs to some degree or another from the others. It's not a "best" and one-size fits-all" approach - that is not only childish and immature, but worse than that, it's a contributable suicidal threat towards existence itself (and it's the type of threat that people that want to look for trouble to make things worse and to see things burn, would look to push and further hide under the falsely portrayed and exaggerated, benevolent facade - just seeing how they act and how that deviates from their words and appearances tells you so much). We can talk about it for an indefinite period of time... and we probably need to, because the alternative makes things much worse, for example, a crippling scenario that is lead by (to use a simple summary) either a "too fair" or "too unfair" strategy. Either side of the spectrum is a dangerous cliff that you can fall off and die painfully. I reckon we have to strike that balance, and it's dynamic because the road and it's side-cliffs are changing all the time to some degree or another. Thus we have to always either reserve a current functionable balance or, if not, recalibrate, recast and discover a new functioning balance that is ideally better than the previously decaying one... because by then, the road (ie. External or internal factors outside of our control) has changed it's course.
Good Job, Daniel ...do one on "Nice" ...and "Free" ...and "Peace" ...It would seem to be an argument against language and an affirmative for emotion as a "State of Being" (Righteous) ...it is a shame to be silent and be thought a fool, rather than speak and remove the doubt
0:00 considering that you don’t decide to born with disability you don’t decide your iq your country of origin your parents socioeconomic status or your sexual orientation Yes life is very unfair at some point
The problem with the banker analogy is that the top banks are protected by the Federal Reserve. It's not a free market if they get bailed out by the reserve printing them more money to cover their debts, and devalue the money of those that actually work for it by constant inflation. I don't disagree with keeping what's yours, but that's the problem, it's not theirs to give, and we don't get a vote. Financial democracy died with the gold standard. The banks are out of control and the repo market is on life support.
This video argues that what is fair, is that a person is only worth their capital. Think about it. Someone born into a rich home, with wealthy parents is now inherently worth more, it is only just that they receive more, because their parents were richer. The treatment of their diseases, the quality of their education, for everything, it is only "fair" that they receive the best, while others suffer for having access to only inferior versions or none at all. You cannot think this is the correct way, if you have ever regarded the statement "all men are created equal" as remotely true.
I mean then you wouldn't get roads, or things like electricity. You'd have to have citizens pay for roads to connect their city to everywhere else.... which could isolate and make things troublesome. Some taxes are ok.
@@UltraKardas I agree. But in this video, they are referring to federal income taxes in which there was no such thing until after the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. The controlling elite knew the federal government could never pay interest on loans from the fed (Private profiteers) so they devised a plan for federal income tax. At first, only the very wealthy would have to pay as they knew if they tried to tax ordinary working people, they would be lynched in the streets by sundown! So for 137 years, there were no federal income taxes. And in the last 106 years, they went from taxing only the very wealthy who could most afford it, the the working people who can least afford it.
@@UltraKardas but is it fair that the working man should pay for it, while the rich contribute zero to the IRS? We work to pay down the national dept, while billionaire corporations work to pay zero in taxes.
@@gerri577 You'd have to give me a specific person or name, get out of general hogwash, and point to the individuals who aren't paying their taxes. When you give me a list of rich billionaires, who you know for a fact aren't paying taxes we can address them. Until then? Literally who are you talking about.
@@UltraKardas FB, Google, Amazon, and many other national corporations. High tech corporations, like fb are selling your profile, making literally billions off of us and pay zero taxes. There are currently 607 billionair's in the US today, and they pay zero in taxes. Do you find it fair that you go to work everyday, and are taxed on that job every payday? WE the ppl are working and contributing to the tax system, while the rich work to contribute zero! Stop sticking up for a class of ppl who have successfully mind phuqed us!
Yeah, it’s more important if money is given as a voluntary remuneration as opposed to a forced tribute, even if the recipient receives billions in the former case. BUT: Tax rates are about commensurate contributions to the government’s tasks. There is a reason why there will always be a non-taxable income bracket, regardless if “flat tax” or not. If you take 10 % of a single person earning less than 12 grands a year, it means forcing someone to give up something essential, such as food of better quality. The same applies for higher income brackets in contrast to the highest brackets. One Person has to make do with a second hand family car because of the tax toll, whereas the same given tax rate means nothing for a billionaire (I’m not for 70 % tax rates, though). If someone wants more money for investment reasons, he can usually leave the money in corporations. For smaller businesses, there should be a tax rebate for investments.
I remember the time when I whining to my parents why my 5 year older brother than me get more lunch money than I do. I came out with arguments we shared the same school and I'm so angry at that time because it wasn't fair. But my parents told me yes it is fair. My mom told me what you mean isn't about fairness but it's more about equality. I didn't understand back then what my mom mean but the more I get older I realized what she mean. Now I'm happy that my parents had told me what fairness is at the very young age.
In the first few seconds of this video, before we see his face, his voice made me instantly recognize that he is Daniel Hannan. In my country the UK, he is our version of Rand Paul and one of the few politicians to oppose the NHS. I get excited whenever I see him.
If he studied and worked harder than it's fair. But if he was rich and had expenses covered by his parents, while you had to do a part time job in McDonald to sustain yourself than it's clear that the game is rigged against you.
It's so ironic when Communists say that it is "fair" to be entitled to another person's money, but it is "greed" to keep my hard earned money.
Yes, but no.
Well, the thing is that oftentimes, totalitarian regimes are often incited by unfairness at extreme levels.
@@linkskywalker5417 No, change is incited by unfairness at the extreme levels. Change by fleeing, change by altering the system, or change by leaving a country that persecutes you to create a new ration based on free speech and religion.
Totalitarian regimes are often incited by people who want power and control, while the reason why they get their is just an excuse along the way.
@@GenUrobutcher Yet most dictators like hitler, or mussolini lived in a society that was already the most fair to them. The only thing that changed it that it was more unfair to people who disagreed with them.
@@linkskywalker5417 No, they are incited by those who take advantage of others, they just tend to use the "it's not fair" phraseology to incite the unwary into giving them all the power.
Fair means not having to pay for someone else’s choices or mistakes
Fair means: not having to pay taxes, while the rich pay zero!
you've had an accident and now you're in crippling debt? Your mistake!
@Andrea Mendenhall do you think that people should earn as much as they work for?
@Andrea Mendenhall should people earn as much money as they make? No less and no more, do you agree?
@Andrea Mendenhall yes?
You get a "fair", you get a " Fair" And you get a "fair"....everyone gets a " Fair"!!!!!
And when everyone is fair.... no one is
That's not fayre
@@yezki8 - I mean, by how most people define fairness that is false.
And then,, will there be any left over for the 4H, or theCounty??
😲😲😲😲😲😆lol
@Treasure Cave: I like fair's. All those rides and yummy food, mmmm. Yes, please.
finally.....i've been asking that question for years... what is fair.. never got an answer till now....well done, someone forward this to Bernie Sanders....
If you are on Twitter or Facebook you can go to either one of his profile and actually post it there in response to one of his tweets or postings....
@john peters -- We all know that _fair_ applies to those who *do not contribute to political causes.*
@@faithfulpatriot5590 you got that right.
You know what is not fair, the top 1% paying less in effective tax rate than the working class.
A more realistic cake analogy is Jane pays 4$ but getting 77% of the cake, you have to share 23% of the cake with your 8 brothers.
@@mochithepooh5368 " you have to share 23% of the cake with your 8 brothers." what and why jane should get more than half if she paid less? "1% paying less in effective tax rate than the working class." not true.
This is the most true thing I heard in today's world.
Youve got a lot left to hear
@@thegodofyoutube266 "left to hear"? "left",, "hear"?
I think you're maybe being clever!
Good one!
Indian fam wassup
ahh yess, typical right wing propaganda at its finest in an effort to keep the poor, poor. And keep the rich and powerful unchallenged.
if they've silenced you into tucking your tail between your legs and not calling out the unfair tax system in this country, then your a fool. The rich know how easily gullible ppl like you can be mind phuqed.
Farness is equality of opportunities for everyone, opportunities only.
snow white is the fairest of all, not snow brown.
@Jacques Vermeulen well, start on a nation by nation basis and make equal access to education a priority. Then go from there. Right now it is not about inmediate and perfect equality of opportunities, but rather moving into the right direction.
@@C0rill0 Who decides what the right direction is? These modern politicians that wouldn't know what right is from the get go?
@@andaros2106 In this case accessible education for everyone is the right direction. We can make the choice by voting for the politicians that share this view, that is one possibility.
No, fairness is equality of law. You cannot have equality of opportunities. For example, we from the start have very unequal physical and cognitive abilities. Also, if you were born in a rich family and your parents read a book a day, you have so much more opportunities to succeed than if you were born from a poor drug addict single mom and put into a shelter at age 5. Education of our parents is crucial when it comes to succeeding in a society, socialization under age 5 is the most important period of our life and whether we like it or not, it decides a loooot about our future. Language skills, emotional control, and overall knowledge are very dependent on where we were born, it's a myth to think that just because we all go to school this is equal opportunity, it's not, and im not even talking about preferential education based on wealth. That doesn't mean we are doomed, but some start to run at the top of the hill and others have to climb it.
"A fine is a tax for doing bad, and a tax is a fine for doing well '
-Chinese fortune cookie
"Taxation is the basis of civilised society" - Any rational mind on earth
Taxation is the price we pay for not going to jail.
@@blakesliberator3197 tax is the price we pay to have firemen, police officers, civil workers.
And prisons. Taxes are the price we pay for not going to prison.
@@aidencurl2532 The fortune is right, INCOME tax is a fine for doing well. There are other forms of tax which economists would argue are better (eg. land value tax, consumption tax, tax on externalities)
That video held like ten mic-drop moments. Absolutely enlightening.
You'd be surprised how many people misinterpret "ALL'S fair in love and war"...
I'm always suprised when I encounter anyone who knows much about either love or war. .
God is the author and foremost example of love, but the vast majority of people choose enmity with God.
War is an endeavor which is harder to master than brain surgery, but professional warriors are actually more essential to the life of a free nation in a sick world than a doctor is to a sick patient.
As for the phrase, "All's fair..." it seems to be a Descriptive thing that could be perverted by thinking it to be a Prescriptive thing which would be neither lovely, nor the way of a noble warrior.
@@sempergumby3929 Sometimes the only reward for ingenuity is you get to live another day on your own terms
Perfect example: My brother and I grew up in the exact same household. Had the same exact upbringing, had excellent parents that are still together to this day.
We literally had the exact same opportunities growing up.
However, I decided I wanted quality friends and to put myself through college. Whereas he was more interested in hanging out with burnouts, not saving his money, and he dropped out of school in 10th grade.
Now he's a 38 year old with two kids living in my parents basement, whereas I am a 31 year old that lives on his own and has a small business and just turned our first six figure year. Guess which one of us blames everyone else and blames the world just isn't "fair"?
Also, you guessed it, he's a lunatic Democrat where I lean more to the Republican side of things.
We live in the United States of America, where we only get out as much as we put in.
PragerU Is The Fairest Of Them All
Perhaps that's an exaggeration.
I mean they have some videos who they are right but others who are wrong but i think its fair
I thought that was Lady Guinevere...
Lolll prager deletes majority of comments talking agains them..
@@dropbear2972 not really, youtube is the one who delete them
And they asked “what is wrong with giving everyone a trophy?” That is where it started.
Except no matter what, the winner still won. And most likely is still winning today.
No. It started long before that. Somewhere right before the “free love” movement.
@domhnall777 yeaaaah conservatives are confederates...its not the libtards...the confederates are conservatives...yeaaah Abraham Lincoln was a libtard democrat...yeah lets never read history books again so that we can stay dumb...opsss i mean smart forever...
@domhnall777 should history be ignored because you don't like it or disagree with what happened? Should we erase someone's legacy because of one bad thing they did? If that's the case, then no one should ever be honored with a statue, plaque, or even a photo hanging on a wall somewhere. People are not perfect.
@@Karamarika In ancient times it was common practice to tear down the monuments and temples of defeated enemies. As for erasing someone's legacy I disagree with that, but there are other ways of doing so such as museums and document. To have a statue for someone is to literally put their ideals and character on a pedestal. While the Confederate generals were mostly good people the cause they are most known for supporting and fighting for is slavery. (I hate to use Hitler as an example, but he's the most infamous and I lack sufficient knowledge of every other example.) It's like if the Germans erected a statue of Hitler for getting them out of the depression. While he did technically accomplish that his good deeds are overshadowed by his evil deeds. While the Confederates are nowhere near as evil as the Nazis this doesn't mean we should try to prop up what they stood for as something that should be looked up to. (Yes I know it wasn't all about slavery, but slavery happens to be the most infamous cause.)
Should 5% appear too small
Be thankful I don’t take it all
Taxman by The Beatles
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine by John Lennon
Boris Boris I missed the part where he said take the possessions of others.
What's NOT fair are mafias and unions that band together to set minimum fees and eliminate competition. Realtors 6% commission regardless of work done; government fees with no competitor; referrals by judges; lawyer fees; taxes and more.
*Let me tell you how it will be:*
*There’s one for you, nineteen for me*
@@borisboris9524 So Venezuela, and North Korea... like those places? Places with more human rights abuse than anywhere else. I would prefer possessions to slavery or death. Also, possessions aren’t what makes one greedy... where is that coming from? Is it that root of all evil thing? (Yes I’m baiting a trap.)
I’m a teenager and let me tell you I would never use the expression “its not fair” and I understand the difference between fair, justice and equality.
Good on you! I have 3 kids. 2 of them are teenagers. I have the "fairness" debate with them constantly. One day i believe they will join you in understanding that "fair" is not always what one thinks it is.
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Exactly, i enjoyed the cake example. Fair would be paying for what you got, equality would be paying equally and having half.
I enjoyed that example and will use it when explaining my viewpoint to others.
Good for you, I wish all teenagers were well educated like you! 🙏
@@69wandering I hope so, for your sake. Mine's 39 and still not grown up!
I use it sometimes in discussions but always followed by an ironic "but it do be like that sometimes". Life is not 'fair' but you have to deal with the cards you get.
Fair is a place where people judge pigs.
_That_ was cool!
I'm still laughing 40 minutes later!
That's one of those fat positivity pageants.
Republican National Convention?
JoniukasVader I don’t get it
@@GG-xe1sj Read Little House on the Prairie(I think its that one, although it could be a different one in the series)
"Its unfair. How can you be on the Jedi counsel without being a Jedi Master?"
take a seat young skywalker
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through mistrust and unfounded distrust.
"The only way to measure the economic value of a service is to see how much others are prepared to pay for it." This is why we should do away with Public schools and encourage "charter schools" Let the tax dollars follow the child not the school districts.
Careful with that one, it is a country, not a company.
We already have a real world manifestation of that philosophy: Private universities.
Charter schools enjoy a witches brew of the guarantee of public funding, but the freedom of private enterprise. Oh sure, they look good on paper, but they can expel problem students, to include those with learning disabilities.
With public schools, no such luxury exists, a student gets expelled, that student is still in the system.
The free market system is not above criticism either, look no further than the gilded age of the late 1800's. Child labor, homelessness, education only to those that can afford it, corruption, and most famous of all, food.
While I too enjoy Prager's content, I'm no sycophant. The free market has had more than enough chances to clean up its act, and still chooses not to. Don't believe me? Look up "wage fraud", the economic damage that daily everyman crime committed dwarfs anything Madoff has caused.
no actually you should have both - let there be competition, free choice and equal access to education
Then you're just paying more for no reason. "For profit" means parents will be paying for hefty CEO salaries and shareholder dividend checks.
How so? If a charter school isn't doing a good job a parent can pull their child and place in a better school. Public schools are a failure
Your sentiment is right, but a "charter" school is simply a private entity that has the "charter" to administer the Duties of a public school. It is school choice and, as you point out, money following the child that makes the difference.
My mom always use to say to me - "Who says life is fair? It never did and it won't be." As I grew older I realize that, that was true. Because if it was fair, everybody is living in a dreamland. You make your own destiny and only you can make your dreams come true. You work hard for it in order to get what you want. You earn it. Stop whining that it isn't fair because it won't.
These videos are always so high quality👍🏻
they used a goddamn british man to mind phuq you. Yeah, that's quality! lol!
@@gerri577 He means HD camera...
"Things don't always have to be fair" - my dad when I was 6 years old. Always stuck with me and ironically brought a sense of peace
Video is released, -five seconds pass- six ignorant people down vote it and go watch CNN.
It might just be a UA-cam(Google) algorithm; they aren't PragerU's biggest fans!
Many know PragerU is full of BS. Doesn’t hurt to just hit the dislike in case you forget by the end of the video.
@@willhiggins9563 The only people who "know PragerU is full of BS," are the people who are either too cowardly to properly and reasonably consider the information (which is verifiable) in the videos... or people too stupid and immoral to want to accept that the video contains truth they refuse to acknowledge - while their own perspective might be WRONG.
Which type of person are you, Will?
SeatBill I’m the type of person who just know Prageru’s MO at this point.
@@willhiggins9563 Will, you show your ignorance with every post! What "MO"? The videos are straightforward; they promote beliefs and policies a lot of people also believe, and support; so, what "MO" is happening here? Either the information in the videos is true, important, and accepted; or it isn't! Now, if you want to debate specific videos or points; let's do that! But don't be a wuss and just make pronouncements like "PragerU has a MO," and just expect people to nod their heads! Don't you have any self-pride? Can't you reason out for us WHY you think the way you do? Can't you share insights and experiences that help convince people PragerU is wrong about something... other than just saying gimmicky responses like "PragerU has an MO"? If you can't be specific, offer specific reasons, or defend your positions specifically... then you're useless here - and you prove why SO many of you on the Left RUN away from people like me, and the right! You can't defend your precepts and principles... *because you have none!* If you did - you'd be engaging me in a debate right now; starting with PragerU's so-called "MO"! You refuse to - so you present yourself as nothing more than a CHILD among adults!
There is such a thing as fair. It doesn't mean everybody gets a trophy and free money from the government. Fair means that cops aren't above the law, politicians have to live by the laws they make, corporations can't buy off politicians and judges, court trials aren't won by the richest party, pharmaceutical companies can't raise drug prices by 400%, etc. etc. etc. There is a level of unfairness in this country that should not exist and something should be done about it.
Im glad in Polish language we dont have word "fair", you have to say "just" or "right" or "honest". Everything is simplier.
@Chris Ruiz It means justfull.
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The problem with framing, unfortunately, is that the people can use a word, such as "just", and change its meaning based on examples.
"It would be *just* if the baker makes more than the banker because of the hardships the baker has to go through that the banker does not. Therefore, justice should be enacted and a portion of the banker's wealth should be given to the baker. Because it's just." Don't think for one second that English is the reason framing exists. Remember the Germans justified the Holocaust, in German, because it was framed that they were the problem.
the definition of fair according to google is: just or honest. PragerU just work to make us americans feel like fools for calling out the unfair tax system. We contribute a good chunk of our paychecks to the IRS, while the rich contribute zero. We're carrying the burden of our dept whole the rich are laughing at us. And that's not fair!
I remember as a kid a story about a duck that wanted to bake some bread. She asked the pig to help her with cutting the grain. The pig didn't want to help. She went to the bunny, she didn't want to help. She went to the goat, he didn't want to help. So she took all day to make the bread and everyone wanted to eat the loaf when she was done. But she said no none of you did anything to deserve this, why should i let you benefit at no sacrifice from you. I like that story alot more seeing all the entitled babies in this generation.
I’ve been told it’s not fair that I own 4 cars while some can’t afford 1! When tell them 2 of those cars are 21 years old , 1 is 10 years old , 1 is 7 years old and that I do MOST of the maintenance and repairs I’m told it’s not fair that I was “born” with the talent of fixing cars while most people weren’t.
I taught my children that in life, there is no "fairness fairy". Study hard, work diligently, be kind to others and expect that success is predicated upon their efforts, nothing else. I wish people "best of luck, and by luck, I mean those things we do to create opportunities for ourselves". My kids are well-adjusted and successful. Can't ask for more than that.
I think the best definition of fair that I have seen can be summed up in this quote from a webnovel.
"The prerequisite of fairness is efficiency. If one thing fails to achieve the goal, it could not be called as fair. The purpose of the imperial examination system in the mortal world is to select people who are erudite and capable. Therefore, it is fair to be an official through study, and it is unfair to spend money to buy an official post. But if it is in the auction, it is fair for the one who bid the highest get the item." (Once upon a time there was a spirit sword mountain, chapter 592)
Therefore I believe that determining fairness requires a goal. If we decide the market's goal is to ensure people are properly compensated for their labor and the products that are produced than a completely free market is not the best solution. This is largely because of the presence of dishonesty and corruption. Markets can and have historically lied about the products they sell (Addictive drugs in medicine and food). From a free market perspective, this could theoretically be resolved by reviews and companies that rate and recommend products. However, companies have been shown to be very capable of manipulating information.
In this cases like these the government should intervene as its officials while still capable of being corrupt have an incentive to not do so as they can be removed by the will of the people who put them there. Now we run into another problem, these government offices cost money and many people who stand to benefit from it are paying nothing. Now this creates a new conflict as the government is clearly unable to meet the initial goals of the market. Therefore we can continue to try to make the government's goal the same as the market (like how Chinese government owned businesses compete with Private business) or change the goal of the government. Thus we have conflicts over the government's goal and how best to meet it.
I will stop here as this can go on forever with no final answer. My point is that while I respect and often agree with the principles and ideas behind PragerU's solutions/suggestions I find that they often tend to give a solution as it is the only solution without offering opposing viewpoints or straw manning the opposition when they do.
If anyone has any suggestions on how to resolve the dilemma of fairness or disagrees with my opinions please give me a reply and sorry for the long comment.
It’s not fair that I’m not 1/1,000th as well-spoken as Dan Hannan, and I was born in an English-speaking society.
Question: Do you all think it's fair when small businesses have to pay hefty taxes/follow strict regulations, yet giant corporations can use influence and money to sway laws in their favor?
It's not so much that that isn't fair. It's not right.
yes
No because they are abusing the system and its called crony capitalism. That is why i vote for small government advocates
“The only thing that makes life unfair is the delusion that it should be fair.”
-- Steve Maraboli
The fair comes once a year. Its here for 5 days and at the end i have went for a few hours to look at the crafts and live stock. And by then i have had enuff of the fair. Then its time to go back to reality and not worry about what my neighbor has or how he got it or what he is doing.
“For the sake of fairness all females have to register in the military and be drafted in case of a war” -a feminist without name
in the netherlands females get a draft letter just like men
They should be. Or better yet, no one should be. There is no criteria that makes women unable to serve in the modern military, so if there's a need for a draft system it should apply to both genders.
The amount of money you earn can determine your lifestyle. The money you earn is proportional to the value you provide. And the worth of your value is determined by what people will pay for it... And you provide value by having skills... You can work in ANY industry and earn millions of dollars if that is your goal or be financially free. If you're the best Baker in the country, then become good at selling your cakes nationwide. If you're a good janitor and you do a great job but you work minimum wage, then learn the skills necessary to get your own clients, run a business and do it! The problem today is people want 'things' but they Don't want to put forth the required effort. "So you so shall you reap" this is a natural law.
One of my high school teachers used to say "if life was fair, there would be no wheelchairs" This I think sums up how life goes. We deal with the cards we are dealt. As for market fairness or financial fairness, our system seeks to encourage people to succeed by providing financial incentives which could be interpreted as 'unfair'.
We make wheelchairs to make life more fair. Even handicapped people deserve to move around, because of that we make wheelchairs.
Dealt cards are the greatest metaphor! Life is a game
@@Fateslav yea but if someone is cheating when he's dealing cards you need to call it out.
so we should just let capitalism grow out of control until the rich dominate our life?
How can you say the free market is the perfect (and only) solution? People born into poverty was undoubtably have less opportunities to make money. Imagine starting your monopoly game with just $10. This kind of bad circumstance is not accounted for by a perfectly free market. We should strive for a fairer society.
The Loony Left, "I want Fairness!". Then gets that and then shouts, "NO the other FAIRNESS!"
PragerU does the same thing in another video they made called "are progressive taxes fair" here's a link to it
ua-cam.com/video/junBJZRDFzk/v-deo.html
Edit: I meant to say "is America's tax system fair"
@@kaic1649 You're criticizing the use of fair yet they're criticizing the overuse of fair.
In 2013, I was once served by a waitress who was wearing an Obama shirt. So I asked her what about him did she like. She said his tax plan. So I said, so you think the rich paying the poor is fair. She said yes. So then, I should take the money for the tip and give it to the homeless person outside? After all, you have a job; he doesn't. You're richer than he is. And that is the fair thing to do, right?
Strangely, she didn't agree with that.
This stuff is sooo true!
What is fair during a divorce? Is it fair the higher earning spouse (in a 10 year marriage) must pay alimony to his lower earning spouse who refuses to work full time, get promotions and raises? (An argument could be made for a 1-year severance, but for 6-8 years?!) Imagine if this were done in the workplace? You QUIT a job of 10 years and the EMPLOYER must pay a severance for 6-8 years?
Is it fair that the higher earning spouse must pay child support even though custody is 50/50 and the children are equally his and her financial responsibility?
In my opinion this is all not fair. The only way to make it fair is for people either not to enter into a marriage or get a prenup before they marry.
"Equality Before The Law." Shout out to any Nebraskans out there. Best state motto in the Union.
Timothy Bess wassup Nebraska, this video is still pointless with a lot of holes in his overall political point,
I can relate to the "fairness" of the story below. The word fairness is often misused by people who didn´t put in the effort. The example of the two brothers with the same upbringing and opportunities perfectly shows this idea. One of them has smoked ten joints a day since his early teen years, quits school, is lazy and has friends with the same bad habits. The other studied, graduated as a doctor, surrounded himself by people with the same ambitions, AND took care of the family business after their father passed away. Is it fair that both get the same share of the family business profits? There's a huge gap between having rights and fairness. Justice should be to give someone what he deserves, not what he expects for being born. Thank you for the video.
Equal opportunity or equal outcome, which is fair? Pretty simple really, equal opportunity and let the person determine their own pursuit for happiness.
This imo is a good argument to massively raise taxes on inheritance
There are to many impossabilities for equal oppurtunity. Number one we are all at different starting points. Then there is when and where you were born. Your parents and other socialisation affects. Biological and mental differences. It is better for more equal outcomes. That is actually the social structure we evolved in to and as a species spent most of our existance in. High levels of inequality only began around 10 to 15 thousand years ago.
@@josephde-haan1074 understand but that is discrimination at its core. I grew up on welfare but am now considered to be in a position of "privilege". My parents taught me hard work and never take or accept shortcuts. I put myself in a position of success just like those around me could have, i created my own luck and success. Anyway, would you also make sports an equal outcome gain? Its not equal outcome we should be considering, it is helping people understand their choices.
@@JK-hj7cf Absolutely none of what you wrote relates to my comment. All you said is what so many self obsessed people have said (And there is a lot of us.) 'I come from shit and I made something great of myself. If I can do it, anyone can.' it means nothing. It takes nothing about the diversity of peoples lives, geography, time, biology and many other factors in to consideration. Also the accepted value systems we give to things like sports is made up under a tacit, involuntary (You were born in to it.) agreement. It's subjective and fluid. The sports analogy is another boring, hackneyed argument against equal outcomes. Let me use the analogy differently. If you are good at sport you can have a house, have children, have food and energy and other lovely things. If you are not good at sport and are unable to achieve the required outcomes you are unneccassary to society and can die for all us sports people care. I'm not trying to tell you what to think. I am a big fan of critical thinking. I run a work shop on critical thinking and think it provides the best available tools to get a more accurate understanding of the world we live in.
@@josephde-haan1074 didn't read your comment in full as has deteriated unfortunately. Critical thinker though, yes very critical. Competition is something that needs to also be considered and the intangible affects diminishing it. But it all depends to what degree peoples position is as to the level of equal outcome. Anyway, best of luck Joseph.
I don’t care if taxing on the rich is not “fair” by definition. It’s just the right thing to do. Language or atleast the English language doesn’t have strict lines on words, if people use a word for a different meaning it gets that meaning. Saying “I’m going to start.” doesn’t make sense, “start” is not a place, but “going to” got a new definition. Language changes.
Exactly.
4:36 it's crazy that this guy hasn't figured out that these same flaws are the defining factors of capitalism
It's not about any particular system but the corruption within that system.
It's human error, not system error.
“Sarah: That's not fair!
Jareth: You say that so often, I wonder what your basis for comparison is?”
labyrinth
And Of Course, "Never go that way"
when we say we want to tax the rich more the reason we want that is because rich people dont just make more money than the rest of us they make it in a different way. when i go to my job as a line cook i am paid a wage set by an employer for the time i work, but the resturant owner is paid the surplus value of my labour. the owner doesnt actually do anything except own the facility and the stove and the plates and freezer and everything in the resturant
The problem is that the idea of "fairness" should not be applied to life.
It should be. Too bad not enough people realize the unfairness of our society these days.
@@linkskywalker5417 You mean the unfairness of existence?
That's like if the planet Mars complained it doesn't have life growing on it. When 99%+ of the universe doesn't have life.
Society in most modern countries are as fair as its gonna get, unless you want to be dumped into the wilderness, and see how you "Fair" for yourselves. (Intentional pun.)
@ChaiwatThATprotonmailDOTcom I get that. Which is why chefs of the rich should be paid more than chefs at a fancy restaurant.
@@linkskywalker5417 Applying the word fair was Cane's problem too, he murdered his brother over it.
@ChaiwatThATprotonmailDOTcom And chefs who serve the rich and powerful should be paid more than chefs at fancy restaurants because the rich and powerful demand the best and as such, the best chefs are required.
Daniel Hannan is one of my favourite political figures. He was Member of European Parliament for where I live (South East England) and his book Inventing Freedom was truly a masterpiece! Plus his Oxford Union debate in 2013 about why socialism doesn’t work was excellent too. Thank you so much PragerU for having him on!!
THAT WAS OUTSTANDING! Blessings! 💐💝💌👏
lol! PragerU just made a fool out of you!
As a baker I know a banker’s work is worth more. When I mess up my bread tastes funny. When the banker messes up somebody might end up in jail or the poorhouse.
“Adults have started using the word in much the same ways that teenagers do”
Isn’t this the same channel that cried about “happy holidays” being used instead of “marry Christmas”?
Yes lol.
What's your point? It's bad to act like an immature teenager and it's also bad to try to ban Merry Christmas someone might get offended. If they do, they're probably an immature adult.
@@CaveFreediving "Ban"
This just in, multiple houses raided and occupants arrested after saying "Merry Christmas"
"teenage sense of self-centeredness " .....This describes everything.
For what I can see "It's not fair." is used as "This thing is not going the way that I believe it should be going.".
Rules of life (1 and 2 are unavoidable)
#1 Life is NOT fair.
#2 You are not actually entitled to anything good in Life.
#3 Where there is life, there is hope.
Prager University the voice of reason in an insane world
claudia church yes because the people who are funded by oil barons such as the Koch brothers are completely reasonable and unbiased when they say climate change is a myth
@@lizardguy4236 But climate change is a myth, in that we cause it ,it is just fluctuations and patterns that would happen anyway , that is not to say that we to need to be polluting rivers and we use and dispose of too much plastic , but the ice caps have not melted and all the dire predictions of the passing decades have not happened this is just a cover up for the far more dangerous phenomena of personal technology where people are more interactive with their cell phones then in real conversations and interactions with other people , people have no sense of self, no core they clutch on to every passing social fad because most people are utterly lost
right! I mean how dare us say that our tax system is unfair. In that we carry the burden of our trillions of dollars dept, while the rich sail away on their yachts! While we're busy working and giving a good chunk of our paycheck to the IRS, they're working to make tax laws that protect them, so they can pay zero. How dare us call them out and recognize that it's not fair!
claudia church who told you that scientists or oil barons also the ice caps are melting Greenland definitively has been losing ice for years and so has the eastern ice sheets in Antarctica I assume you watched the Steven crowed video on the topic but the article he cited didn’t debunk climate change watch hbomberguy for details
@@lizardguy4236 no sorry didn't watch the video you cited I was referring to the article Analysis there is no climate change emergency published in Clintel.nl by 6 very respected scientists take a look at it and you will see where I am coming from
Life isn't fair. Live with it.
The thing is that adaults are just older teenagers
@Steve Loeschke -- Many are but not all.
@@faithfulpatriot5590 Even you are.
True adults are those who understand life is not fair, and do not use it as an excuse to get their way.
@@andaros2106 Do they just accept that life is unfair without trying to change that?
@@linkskywalker5417 Yes some adults will try to change that but unlike you the adults will try to solve the problem in a peaceful unbiased way.
The market will solve everything if you believe all products are equal.
No they aren't equal and that is what the market decides
Well said and beautifully presented.
He makes good sense.
I remember when my son said “That’s not fair!”
My response was “I never told you life is fair. I wouldn’t lie to you like that.” He never said it again.
I taught my children that life is what you make it.
Prager U has it right. We have a bunch of adults acting like entitled children these days.
I don’t understand how people can even think about functioning as adults with the “fair” mindset.
What he explains is so true. Thanks a lot for making a video of it.
I firmly believe the question shouldn't be about whether the free market system works, because it clearly does. The question should be about whether or not the machine is working properly... whether it be through manipulation or inevitability. In a place like the US, the fairness question comes about so often because of the birth lottery and brand name phenomena.
Birth lottery effect: Determines where you are born (NYC or Detroit? Good school districts or bad? Good job market or bad?) and initial socioeconomic resources. This is the biggie, as the correlation between that and success is staggering.
Brand name effect: Kid #1 busts his ass and works two jobs to get through school with a top notch GPA, Kid #2 had his parents pay full tuition and never even worked during those 4 years. Both finish with similar GPA's, achievements, and have the same major. Kid #1 went to a state school and Kid #2 went to Harvard. Kid #2 gets carte blanche access to recruitment channels at top firms as a result, and Kid #1 is forced to start his career cold calling because he wasn't at a target school (and crushing debt as a bonus).
PragerU is right in the sense that when people complain about fairness they need to be more specific and less ambiguous about what they actually mean. The answer shouldn't rely on arbitrary estimates of how much the rich should be paying... the answer should depend on which actions can be undertaken to mitigate the two toxic effects. How do we make it so that kids in the US have access to similar quality *PUBLIC* education, and how to we make it so that antiquated reliance on ivy league institutions and their questionable quality advantages over lesser known schools is reduced? Our school and university systems need to be more standardized across the country, doing this would erase so many of the directly observable feedback loops that makes others feel left out. Perception is reality and so long as the internet allows us to peek into the lives of others, people will be noticing those differences in privilege and will grow angrier until something is done to dampen that perception.
I do agree
Adults pouting about fairness, the devolution of responsibility.
I remember when I was a little kid whining about "That's not fair!" Adults always laughed at me and told me that life isn't fair. It seems strange that now we have supposed adults who now whine about how unfair everything is. Apparently adults no longer tell children that life isn't fair?
so yo believe that grown americans are fools because they acknowledge that the current tax system in unfair in that the rich pay zero in taxes? PragerU has you believing that we're all running around screaming unfair about everything. When in reality, we're just calling out the rich corporations who use our congress to exempt themselves from paying into the system, like we have to.
gerri577 you have no right to anyone else’s labor, regardless of however noble your ambitions might be.
@@MBasu-km8by ha ha! you must never listen to trump!
@@MBasu-km8by he just means that the rich don't pay proportional to everyone else. while progressive tax is unfair to the rich, a flat tax is even more unfair to the poor. America last year earned 3.5 trillion (check my figure) in tax revenue and there are around 200 million 18 and older (and therefore tax eligible) citizens in the US. Divide that figure you get around $17,500. Not great for the poor. The average household makes around 90K, that's a lotta damage.
If we take the example of “playing a game”... the rules of the game tend to be that everyone starts with the same money AND same rules apply to everyone... I don’t see the video cover that aspect
👏👏👏👏👏 This gentleman just explained my entire economic ideology. It's not that I just agree w/ him, it's my actual political viewpoint.
Under the current system our relations ARE mediated by accidents of births and social cast, and financial rewards are often determined by favouritism.
Cake's considered a non-essential?? .....I don't want to live in this world! 😓
@Nicholas Pedatella LMAOOOOO
I'm italian and I think this: It's a matter of potential: if you start from a lower point (low education, hard childhood, parental problems...) And the environment Is not offering you opportunity to rise Money, as lack of job market demand, you won't get enough Money to pay for your needs and taxes will'appear heavier. For this I Stick with the proportional taxes method.
So, essentially, the more you put into something, the more you should get out of it.
Seems logical to me. I don't know how other people argue against this.
so if all taxes are raised for everyone, more money is put into the government and all people get what they need. I agree the logic is unbeatable
Yeah.
If only the system actually worked that way.
Problem is no one wants to pay anything for services. There are people saying food and water should be free.
"GROW UP!"
That sums that up.
I think the problem is people grow up so much they can’t look down at the problems they cannot see anymore, and they put forward a government letting bad things happen to good people, instead of dealing with problems. Hence Trump.
@@topsecret1837 If people would grow up so much then we'd be full with great philosophers and thinkers which would be awesome! The real problem is there are more childish people than rational ones.
@@topsecret1837 lol so admit you are stuck in childhood.
@@andreanacalhoun5402 And so are you.
My grandmother's response when I used to shout that life wasn't fair:
"A fair is a place where you go to spend too much, eat too much, and throw up everything you ate. Who wants a life like that?"
You have a very wise grandmother.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 I do. Miss her terribly.
@@ashleypenn7845
🕯May she rest in peace...
Is it fair that the interest rate on the poors savings is zero after inflation, which at the same time, pushes up the prices of stocks and real estate because money for the rich is cheap?
Exactly, it cant be "FAIR" Trade unless the government stops the monopolies of corporations!! Perfect example..6 companys own all of MSM, yet that keeps anyone who would like the opportunity to start their own out of reach. Google has the monopoly on internet and its impossible to try to start your own with the legal system on the side of who can pay more money!!!
Interest in bank accounts seems pretty flat to me. It only makes a difference when you are getting interest on $2,000 compared to 2,000,000.
Maybe you should find out what that millionaire did to become wealthy.
@@shewolfee4247 I'm just sick of hearing conservatives like this talk about fair lmao they all own stocks and real estate so they benefit from the feds policy, therefore don't want to rock the boat. The poor have been priced out of the housing market due to cheap money. Hence why socialism is on the rise and the talk of what is FAIR. It's socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor. Look at the repo market atm. Around 50billion a night the fed is printing. To keep rates low. OK.
@@Waynesworrldexcellent All points pushed by politicians, and all about what is "Fair". You just proved the video's validity.
@@Waynesworrldexcellent Yeah I'm at a point of being tired of flavor of the month labels...Democrats, Republicans, liberals, leftist, right wing...I just wish everyone would stop with this blaming others and realize we are all humans, and we are individuals! Stop acting like everyone else is dumb, and trying to force a certain ideology on others!!!
the other thing your "my money is the same as yours" comment ignires is that rich people dont buy things in cash really anymore the economy is increasingly credit based and a rich persons credit is more valubal than a poor persons. like if jeff bezos goes to a bank and wants to expand amazons capital they will loan him however much he needs but i cant go to a bank ask for more than like 10k.
"Life is pain. Anyone saying otherwise is trying to sell you something."
-The Princess Bride
What's the connection between what you said and the video?
@@theultumateprezes6379 The fact they are saying life isn't fair and isn't easy.
This is some next level way of explaining something! Loved the logic behind it.
This video effectively summarizes the case that Hayek had argued in his "The Knowledge problem". For one to distribute effectively, one has to effectively gather every small bit of information which is impossible😀😀
*Clicking whirring noises at Google gets louder
Fairness is complex... thus it cannot be made a blanket statement. It has to be precise. Especially because not only is there no shortage of unfairness and thrownness in existence, we can get it dangerously wrong in a malicious way when we choose a type of fairness and, regardless of the choice, we take it too far, fast and hard. I think we need to acknowledge all possible conceptions of what fairness can be and bring them all to the table and decide which ones to put forth to fix a multi-level complex issue. And the definition and decision of fairness can change again to account for another multi-level complex issue, that differs to some degree or another from the others. It's not a "best" and one-size fits-all" approach - that is not only childish and immature, but worse than that, it's a contributable suicidal threat towards existence itself (and it's the type of threat that people that want to look for trouble to make things worse and to see things burn, would look to push and further hide under the falsely portrayed and exaggerated, benevolent facade - just seeing how they act and how that deviates from their words and appearances tells you so much).
We can talk about it for an indefinite period of time... and we probably need to, because the alternative makes things much worse, for example, a crippling scenario that is lead by (to use a simple summary) either a "too fair" or "too unfair" strategy. Either side of the spectrum is a dangerous cliff that you can fall off and die painfully. I reckon we have to strike that balance, and it's dynamic because the road and it's side-cliffs are changing all the time to some degree or another. Thus we have to always either reserve a current functionable balance or, if not, recalibrate, recast and discover a new functioning balance that is ideally better than the previously decaying one... because by then, the road (ie. External or internal factors outside of our control) has changed it's course.
Good Job, Daniel
...do one on "Nice" ...and "Free" ...and "Peace"
...It would seem to be an argument against language and an affirmative for emotion as a "State of Being" (Righteous)
...it is a shame to be silent and be thought a fool, rather than speak and remove the doubt
0:00 considering that you don’t decide to born with disability you don’t decide your iq your country of origin your parents socioeconomic status or your sexual orientation
Yes life is very unfair at some point
and is there something wrong with working to keep the playing field level? Is that such an evil idea?
“Fair” is whatever I damn well say it is.
The problem with the banker analogy is that the top banks are protected by the Federal Reserve. It's not a free market if they get bailed out by the reserve printing them more money to cover their debts, and devalue the money of those that actually work for it by constant inflation. I don't disagree with keeping what's yours, but that's the problem, it's not theirs to give, and we don't get a vote. Financial democracy died with the gold standard. The banks are out of control and the repo market is on life support.
This was excellent thank you.
This video argues that what is fair, is that a person is only worth their capital. Think about it. Someone born into a rich home, with wealthy parents is now inherently worth more, it is only just that they receive more, because their parents were richer. The treatment of their diseases, the quality of their education, for everything, it is only "fair" that they receive the best, while others suffer for having access to only inferior versions or none at all.
You cannot think this is the correct way, if you have ever regarded the statement "all men are created equal" as remotely true.
Justice is more important than fairness!
The rich fair share in taxes would be the same rate! We should ALL be paying ZERO...
I mean then you wouldn't get roads, or things like electricity. You'd have to have citizens pay for roads to connect their city to everywhere else.... which could isolate and make things troublesome.
Some taxes are ok.
@@UltraKardas I agree. But in this video, they are referring to federal income taxes in which there was no such thing until after the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. The controlling elite knew the federal government could never pay interest on loans from the fed (Private profiteers) so they devised a plan for federal income tax. At first, only the very wealthy would have to pay as they knew if they tried to tax ordinary working people, they would be lynched in the streets by sundown! So for 137 years, there were no federal income taxes. And in the last 106 years, they went from taxing only the very wealthy who could most afford it, the the working people who can least afford it.
@@UltraKardas but is it fair that the working man should pay for it, while the rich contribute zero to the IRS? We work to pay down the national dept, while billionaire corporations work to pay zero in taxes.
@@gerri577
You'd have to give me a specific person or name,
get out of general hogwash, and point to the individuals who aren't paying their taxes.
When you give me a list of rich billionaires, who you know for a fact aren't paying taxes we can address them.
Until then? Literally who are you talking about.
@@UltraKardas FB, Google, Amazon, and many other national corporations. High tech corporations, like fb are selling your profile, making literally billions off of us and pay zero taxes. There are currently 607 billionair's in the US today, and they pay zero in taxes. Do you find it fair that you go to work everyday, and are taxed on that job every payday? WE the ppl are working and contributing to the tax system, while the rich work to contribute zero! Stop sticking up for a class of ppl who have successfully mind phuqed us!
Yeah, it’s more important if money is given as a voluntary remuneration as opposed to a forced tribute, even if the recipient receives billions in the former case. BUT:
Tax rates are about commensurate contributions to the government’s tasks. There is a reason why there will always be a non-taxable income bracket, regardless if “flat tax” or not. If you take 10 % of a single person earning less than 12 grands a year, it means forcing someone to give up something essential, such as food of better quality. The same applies for higher income brackets in contrast to the highest brackets. One Person has to make do with a second hand family car because of the tax toll, whereas the same given tax rate means nothing for a billionaire (I’m not for 70 % tax rates, though).
If someone wants more money for investment reasons, he can usually leave the money in corporations. For smaller businesses, there should be a tax rebate for investments.
We got a british guy to say our nonsense and make it sound smart.
I remember the time when I whining to my parents why my 5 year older brother than me get more lunch money than I do. I came out with arguments we shared the same school and I'm so angry at that time because it wasn't fair. But my parents told me yes it is fair. My mom told me what you mean isn't about fairness but it's more about equality. I didn't understand back then what my mom mean but the more I get older I realized what she mean. Now I'm happy that my parents had told me what fairness is at the very young age.
Yes, a video!
In the first few seconds of this video, before we see his face, his voice made me instantly recognize that he is Daniel Hannan. In my country the UK, he is our version of Rand Paul and one of the few politicians to oppose the NHS. I get excited whenever I see him.
"My neighbor finished school and makes 10 times as much as I do, its not fair!!"
If he studied and worked harder than it's fair.
But if he was rich and had expenses covered by his parents, while you had to do a part time job in McDonald to sustain yourself than it's clear that the game is rigged against you.
I was thinking about this the other day. You're not buying a commodity or service. You're paying a person for what they do.
As a farmer, I find it unfair of how I can drop sick beets.
*throws on shades and crosses arms*
BOOOOO! LMAO!
@@andaros2106 I guess I got a bit carrot away. Alright, I'll see myself out.
excellent presentation; thank you!
Treat adults like children, and *they will act like children!*
#NannyState
Ah, Mister Hannan. After the death of Sir Roger Scruton yesterday, it is all the more pleasing to see you.