I really really enjoy Rob’s videos and learn a whole lot while also being entertained, but I admire the guy immensely because of his work with veterans.
All the light in your shop is diffused off of the ceiling. This soft glow illuminates the entire room and looks perfect for carpentry and also videography. Well done.
Once again Rob displays the patience needed to get this kind of fit. The "case" whether a cabinet or drawer case is almost never perfect. Using a hand plane creates a bump in the middle and out of square along the short edge. By taking the "1000th" thick shaving the master carefully brings these all to the perfect fit. Although this seems simple and straight forward the skills being thought here are excellent. Doing fit this way will make us all better wood workers. Many thanks, I enjoy my hobby, because I am better at it because of Rob Cosman.
Always amazing craftsmanship. Custom cabinet makers don’t often get rich because not many can afford the hours it takes to build fine cabinets. The hours and skills needed for perfectly fit inset doors is monumental.
Your videos are so watchable. Thank you to you and the team for the efforts that you all go to to make sure it is that way. Inspirational and aspirational is how I feel about this channel. Greetings from the UK.
I was a Drawer and Door fitter in a major manufacturing company in Michigan , I would have leveled the bottom after the hinge side. Just a suggestion. Still working in the furniture but for myself and still going at it at the age of 68.
Always a pleasure to watch you work, Rob. Really appreciate the pearls you drop about Alan Peters and Edward Barnsley. Handed down to all of us, from nowhere else but Rob Cosman! I think that your viewers could use a lesson in boning up cabinets to make them ready for door fitting, maybe you have covered that already.
The knots look better on the bottom because of what graphic artists call "visual weight." Working among a staff of graphic artists as their photographer was very educational.
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2:00 Wow. I completely misunderstood you. I thought you were saying that the thickness of a dime was too hard to do. But, you meant that the thickness of a dime is too much! You are on a different level sir.
Damn. I just watched the three videos in this series, but really only needed to get to the fourth; the hinges. Did he never do the hinge video? I've gone to his site and can't find it there either.
The great thing about watching your videos, apart from the super-market of information, is the example. The example you set. The quote from Allan Peters that if it's not right throw it in the bin and make one that is. To not settle for nearly good. That example acts as a compass on my tiny little wood work bench. Though I don't make my draws and cupboard door fits so fine as to have to re-adjust for seasonal movement. The wife would be forever chasing me.
How would you hold the door on a Cosman bench with the Sjobergs vice that has a bottom? Use the bench a shooting board like in the video where you made tapered legs by hand? But perhaps face the tail vice?
We developed this over the past year. Finally brought it to market , one model fits Woodriver and Libyan planes, one fits Lie-Nielsen and we have one for Stanley planes that sold out the first few hours, back in stock in a week or so. Www.robCosman.com
Dang bro. You spent like 3/4 of the video just getting the door plumb! 😧🙄 I'm just here to see how you HANG IT....dang it! Hahaha! Nice job though. Truly a perfectionist. Nice SHOP TOO! Learning a lot just from your pocket tool cabs. NICE! Beautiful plane ya got there. Betcha it cost a pretty penny too. My dad was a carpenter his entire life. Cabinetmaking is on another level. My dad's best friend was a cabinetmaker. I use to go to his shop alot with my dad. I saw all this stuff happening but I was REALLY YOUNG and did not appreciate it as much as I do now. Great video. But it should be titled "How to plane and FIT cab doors. Lol. 😉👍🏼 Godbless. P.S. "Gonna start by taking a little bit of the material off..." .lol. Really? The floor shavings say otherwise. Muahahaha. I'd use a belt sander or corded plane and that sucker would be done in about a tenth of the time. Lol. But I RESPECT and appreciate and ADMIRE your patience. Personally, methinks you just like using that GORGEOUS plane. Buahaha! I know I would if I invested that much into it. Lol😢 Lesson in PLANING (and PLANNing...ahead! Lol. Nyut nyut. Love the work table and vice as well. Very nice setup indeed. Masterful work. Perfectionist! Wish my dad had taught me all of these details when I was little. But I had a short attention span for it. Now I'm HUNGRY for it. 😉👍🏼 "Boss, DE PLANE!!! DE PLANE!!! (voice of Tattoo).
Nice stuff Rob. I sharpen up to 16k Shapton and have my opening very shallow on my throat and still can’t quite seem to get the ease planing that you have. Also, do you put a finish on your bench?
Rob, are there other applications (maybe like here), where you would use the wood hinge? If your tolerances are so close anyways, it could have a really cool effect.
Interesting as usual, Rob. one question after the speech on the first two minutes (regarding drawers and door fit). If this was a piece for a customer living in a different area (different humidity, etc), would you have left the gap on the door so narrow , or would you have left it a bit wider? cheers from Italy
Such a difficult situation. The craftsman in me can’t stand to have more gap than absolutely necessary, shipping to a different climate means you will have to allow for us expansion. How much is a judgment call, maybe why a dime thickness all around became the rule.
You will note that the smaller square on the bench is a PEC brand, which Rob now sells on his website. The large square _may_ be an older Starrett, but it could just as easily be the more affordable PEC.
For inset doors on fine furniture, I like to use Brusso knife hinges. They require 1/32" reveals top and bottom, and you need the same reveal on the sides to make everything look right. The only way to do this is to make the doors a little oversize, and then custom-trim them to the opening. Yep, openings are never perfectly rectangular.
Thanks for your teaching. You don’t measure the width of rails and styles. It can be impossible to have them exactly equal. I presume it’s better if the top rail is the thinner, but concerning the styles, should the hinge side be the larger one ? JP from France
Fascinating as usual. Now I'm looking forward to the hinge installation. I'd like to know who the schmendle was that gave this video a thumbs down. There's one in every crowd I guess. {8^)
How do you know what kind of plane you have (i.e. 4, 4.5, 5 and so on)? I have a plane, that I plan on restoring, that looks pretty old. It's black and the only marking is "Made in USA", nothing else. The soul is 14 inches long by 2 5/8 inches wide. It doesn't look cheaply made like some more modern planes I've seen.
Impressive skills but a bit too tight an approach to fitting in my opinion. The ID of the carcass cannot be the same as the OD of the door. If you’re building a cork this approach works but since it’s hinging in the OD of the door must take into consideration the hinged angle will make the width of the door bigger. The thickness of the door coming into the carcass at an angle means the door will surely bind on the opposite side to the hinge side. People often use playing cards to create a small gap enough to accommodate the hinging adding dimension to the width. I’m guessing he’ll fix this on the next video. If you live in a one climate country this approach might work but certainly not here in Canada. Unless you’re using ply solid wood will surely shrink and expand. 😊
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That's incredible precision!
I really really enjoy Rob’s videos and learn a whole lot while also being entertained, but I admire the guy immensely because of his work with veterans.
Glad to know I am not the only one who stuff becomes out of square no matter how careful I am. Thanks for the tutorial on how to fix it.
You are so welcome!
All the light in your shop is diffused off of the ceiling. This soft glow illuminates the entire room and looks perfect for carpentry and also videography. Well done.
Once again Rob displays the patience needed to get this kind of fit. The "case" whether a cabinet or drawer case is almost never perfect. Using a hand plane creates a bump in the middle and out of square along the short edge. By taking the "1000th" thick shaving the master carefully brings these all to the perfect fit. Although this seems simple and straight forward the skills being thought here are excellent. Doing fit this way will make us all better wood workers. Many thanks, I enjoy my hobby, because I am better at it because of Rob Cosman.
Here here. Well said.
thanks so much for the kind words. I am glad that I can help keep the craft alive
thanks for commenting
Always amazing craftsmanship. Custom cabinet makers don’t often get rich because not many can afford the hours it takes to build fine cabinets. The hours and skills needed for perfectly fit inset doors is monumental.
Your videos are so watchable. Thank you to you and the team for the efforts that you all go to to make sure it is that way. Inspirational and aspirational is how I feel about this channel. Greetings from the UK.
I was a Drawer and Door fitter in a major manufacturing company in Michigan , I would have leveled the bottom after the hinge side. Just a suggestion. Still working in the furniture but for myself and still going at it at the age of 68.
Wow, demonstrating the patience of Job~! I really hope to achieve this level of craftsmanship (one day). Thanks for the great Master class, Rob~!
Can't wait for the hinge video that's where I usually have trouble thanks Rob for the help and all you do for us and thanks to your crew all of them.
These types of vids are my favorite. I love his patience
Practice + Persistence + Patience=Perfection
Perfect! I started fitting my first inset doors just a few hours ago
I knew that so we posted this video !!!!!
Always a pleasure to watch you work, Rob. Really appreciate the pearls you drop about Alan Peters and Edward Barnsley. Handed down to all of us, from nowhere else but Rob Cosman!
I think that your viewers could use a lesson in boning up cabinets to make them ready for door fitting, maybe you have covered that already.
Enjoying watching you and hearing your insights!!! Thanks, cheers!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Rob
so cool...........
Thank you
The knots look better on the bottom because of what graphic artists call "visual weight." Working among a staff of graphic artists as their photographer was very educational.
I've not been getting notified! Nice one
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2:00 Wow. I completely misunderstood you. I thought you were saying that the thickness of a dime was too hard to do. But, you meant that the thickness of a dime is too much! You are on a different level sir.
Damn. I just watched the three videos in this series, but really only needed to get to the fourth; the hinges. Did he never do the hinge video? I've gone to his site and can't find it there either.
The great thing about watching your videos, apart from the super-market of information, is the example. The example you set. The quote from Allan Peters that if it's not right throw it in the bin and make one that is. To not settle for nearly good. That example acts as a compass on my tiny little wood work bench. Though I don't make my draws and cupboard door fits so fine as to have to re-adjust for seasonal movement. The wife would be forever chasing me.
Great point! My wife bought our cabinets from IKEA....she got tired of waiting on me!
Smooth as ice shavings ❤❤❤❤
Would you consider using a shooting board for this step?
How would you hold the door on a Cosman bench with the Sjobergs vice that has a bottom? Use the bench a shooting board like in the video where you made tapered legs by hand? But perhaps face the tail vice?
Thanks
Welcome
How do you get blades that sharp?
I like that adjustment knob, that custom or a wood river thing?
We developed this over the past year. Finally brought it to market , one model fits Woodriver and Libyan planes, one fits Lie-Nielsen and we have one for Stanley planes that sold out the first few hours, back in stock in a week or so. Www.robCosman.com
Hi Rob, do you consider putting a leading edge on the latch side?
Dang bro. You spent like 3/4 of the video just getting the door plumb! 😧🙄 I'm just here to see how you HANG IT....dang it! Hahaha! Nice job though. Truly a perfectionist. Nice SHOP TOO! Learning a lot just from your pocket tool cabs. NICE! Beautiful plane ya got there. Betcha it cost a pretty penny too. My dad was a carpenter his entire life. Cabinetmaking is on another level. My dad's best friend was a cabinetmaker. I use to go to his shop alot with my dad. I saw all this stuff happening but I was REALLY YOUNG and did not appreciate it as much as I do now. Great video. But it should be titled "How to plane and FIT cab doors. Lol. 😉👍🏼
Godbless.
P.S. "Gonna start by taking a little bit of the material off..." .lol. Really? The floor shavings say otherwise. Muahahaha. I'd use a belt sander or corded plane and that sucker would be done in about a tenth of the time. Lol. But I RESPECT and appreciate and ADMIRE your patience. Personally, methinks you just like using that GORGEOUS plane. Buahaha! I know I would if I invested that much into it. Lol😢
Lesson in PLANING (and PLANNing...ahead! Lol. Nyut nyut. Love the work table and vice as well. Very nice setup indeed. Masterful work. Perfectionist! Wish my dad had taught me all of these details when I was little. But I had a short attention span for it. Now I'm HUNGRY for it. 😉👍🏼
"Boss, DE PLANE!!! DE PLANE!!! (voice of Tattoo).
Man, you got more chisels than Bernie Made-off in there. LMAO! 😧😱🤣🤪😁😅 Nice tool cabbie. So jelly. Haha. Awesome layout.
i have to ask about the adjustment knob on the plane! I have not see that propeller style before. what is that and does it perform well?
We developed it over the past year. Currently stock ones for Woodriver/Luban, Lie-Nielsen and Stanley. The latter is a week away. RobCosman.com
Another great video. And once again I am challenged to improve my skills. Thank you
Note to self* invest in a better quality plane
Nice stuff Rob. I sharpen up to 16k Shapton and have my opening very shallow on my throat and still can’t quite seem to get the ease planing that you have. Also, do you put a finish on your bench?
Slowly retracting the blade. The thin saving is more about blade protraction than the mouth being closed down. Closed mouth helps prevent tear out
Rob, are there other applications (maybe like here), where you would use the wood hinge? If your tolerances are so close anyways, it could have a really cool effect.
I do use my wooden hinge on cabinets.
It looks like this video is set at, "unlisted." Probably why there aren't many views. Just letting you know! Love the content
Not sure what happened but just reposted it. Thanks for the alert
Rob are you using a #5 or a#6 bench plane? FYI videos are great, thanks
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@@RobCosmanWoodworking Thank you
Interesting as usual, Rob.
one question after the speech on the first two minutes (regarding drawers and door fit).
If this was a piece for a customer living in a different area (different humidity, etc), would you have left the gap on the door so narrow , or would you have left it a bit wider? cheers from Italy
Such a difficult situation. The craftsman in me can’t stand to have more gap than absolutely necessary, shipping to a different climate means you will have to allow for us expansion. How much is a judgment call, maybe why a dime thickness all around became the rule.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking thanks, Rob!
nice vid. what is the model of your starrett master square??? thx
You will note that the smaller square on the bench is a PEC brand, which Rob now sells on his website. The large square _may_ be an older Starrett, but it could just as easily be the more affordable PEC.
For inset doors on fine furniture, I like to use Brusso knife hinges. They require 1/32" reveals top and bottom, and you need the same reveal on the sides to make everything look right. The only way to do this is to make the doors a little oversize, and then custom-trim them to the opening. Yep, openings are never perfectly rectangular.
Rob,
Blue tape loops on the face of the frame might keep the finger nail marks off of the wood.
Thanks for your teaching.
You don’t measure the width of rails and styles. It can be impossible to have them exactly equal.
I presume it’s better if the top rail is the thinner, but concerning the styles, should the hinge side be the larger one ?
JP from France
I make my styles the same size and I make my rails a little wider than the styles.
I don’t think i will ever have your level of patience.
Fascinating as usual. Now I'm looking forward to the hinge installation.
I'd like to know who the schmendle was that gave this video a thumbs down. There's one in every crowd I guess. {8^)
You and me both!
How do you know what kind of plane you have (i.e. 4, 4.5, 5 and so on)? I have a plane, that I plan on restoring, that looks pretty old. It's black and the only marking is "Made in USA", nothing else. The soul is 14 inches long by 2 5/8 inches wide. It doesn't look cheaply made like some more modern planes I've seen.
Sounds like you have a No. 5
Biggest cliffhanger of the year
thanks for watching
If you have to go out and refit drawers and doors and refinish edges, the gaps are way too tight.
Impressive skills but a bit too tight an approach to fitting in my opinion. The ID of the carcass cannot be the same as the OD of the door. If you’re building a cork this approach works but since it’s hinging in the OD of the door must take into consideration the hinged angle will make the width of the door bigger. The thickness of the door coming into the carcass at an angle means the door will surely bind on the opposite side to the hinge side. People often use playing cards to create a small gap enough to accommodate the hinging adding dimension to the width. I’m guessing he’ll fix this on the next video. If you live in a one climate country this approach might work but certainly not here in Canada. Unless you’re using ply solid wood will surely shrink and expand. 😊
If only he addressed that three different times during the video