I planned on buying it the first time I saw it when it was announced. Friday I can order it... the two things I am worried about the weight... another reviewer said it is about 1pound and he said he was fatigued around 15 minutes... he didn't think he could make it an hour, so a 2 hour movie would be a challenge. MAybe that is something we get use to... depending on how much of the weight is on your nose (which is a bad place to put the weight but doesn't sound like the weight is there). The second issue is that I am nearsighted and would need to buy the inserts... the inserts are just $150 so that is actually really cheap from what was speculated. So that is less of an issue (I just found that out and found my prescription.. so that won't be a hassle). The weight worries me because I don't want to spend a lot of money and not use it because it is heavy or just use it for short periods of time... I'm on my computer all day (maybe a good alternative to a standing desk... alternate back and forth) Will this take off over time... simple answer is yes... the dream goal for computers is to have holographic displays and talk to the computer and control a device with your eyes or hand gestures. This accomplishes that... in the future maybe they are just regular glasses (tech that exists) but this is far superior but again the weight. It is Wednesday and I am still planning on ordering it Friday. The weight has tempered by hype for this maybe 50% ... I will have to see where I am on Thursday.
@@KodaVoss I have to wonder if any of the people complaining about weight have ever spent time in a Meta Quest headset. That is to say, I don’t think Apple is committing any kind of original sin here so much as failing to improve much upon the burden that goes with current state of the art in VR. And yes, Tim Apple, it’s VR.
Always been an early adopter. I worked at Apple retail for 15 years as a creative. I remember the 1st iPhone launch very well. This one I'm leaning towards getting, but still not at 100%. sure. My guess is I will get it. I love the VR aspect and believe that when Apple delves into something like this, they do it well.
I will buy the Vision Pro. I have already created 73 panoramas and 26 spatial videos via my iPhone 15 Pro Max. I meditate each day and want to use the mindfulness app. I create various documents and plan to use the Siri dictate feature. I plan to watch movies via Vision Pro in place of my TV. I want to explore any new apps. For me, it is not a toy, I will use it for the activities I enjoy.
When it comes to apples first Gen prodcuts you have to look at it for what it will be 3-4 generations from now. The 1st iPhone was fine but most thought it was way too expensive, unnecessary, and just for enthusiasts. By the time we got to the 3GS and iPhone 4, it was everywhere. Same with iPad. The Vision Pro is the START of the journey toward slim glasses you use everyday instead of your phone+tablet+laptop+tv, all that hardware can collapse into spatial glasses.
@@Story_Teller_Everyone then don’t buy this model and clearly you’re not the audience lol a cheaper lighter version will come that’s mostly likely in iPad price range
False. Statement. The iPhone changed everything.. with this .. I’m not sure it’s the same thing. Not sure it’s an iPhone moment. Maybe I’m wrong .. but I remember the change the first iPhone brought .. and that was just looking at the photo.. we knew.
@@Instant_NerfI remember it too and not everyone was on board there were many news outlets trying to write its obituary. I also think post iPhone it’s hard for anyone to capture that again, we are not naive to what tech can do anymore expectation is 10 years ahead of the tech. It will get there.
7:59 “isn’t it sad we are trying to find justifications to buy this product”. Dude I started laughing so hard because it’s so true. If that’s the case then maybe we don’t need the product at this moment.
I wonder if the Vision Pro will be a yearly release. For that price tag, I’m definitely not buying but curious about future gens at a lower price point
I think they'll start slowly making it more and more VR games oriented while keeping all the commute functionality. They'd eventually over take Meta, or maybe they keep there's more like a computer while giving the gaming to Meta and other companies the gaming win
I'm been asking myself that same question. Considering the fact it took Apple six years to develop this (which is three times longer than it took them to develop the first iPhone) it's hard to believe they are likely to have a yearly release cadence. They could of course do incremental improvements, like moving to M3+, moving to the newest version of WiFi, etc, but can they meaningfully improves the experience on a yearly schedule? Shrink it down, strip the weight out, improve the optical stack, meaningfully improve battery life, drive the price down to a mainstream price point? I don't think they are likely to make meaningful advancements on those fronts on a yearly basis. So the question is: Is Apple willing to retool on a yearly basis to make incremental spec bumps on a niche product? And in general, historically, the answer to that has been "no." The only curve ball here is that Apple may wish to push for accelerated development to drive toward mass market, but at the price they are launching at, that doesn't really look like their objective at the moment. I think they are launching with a strong enough feature set to not need to upgrade it for a while, and give the developer community time to build out an ecosystem, before they start getting aggressive about iterating on the product.
I'm buying it. It's potentially a seismic change in computing. I know it is first gen, I know it has the potential to flop. All of that but it is fun to on the cusp of innovation. Also, Apple products tend to hold its value and have high resell. I am truly excited for it.
I’m on the fence as well. I look at this as an accessibility tool for me personally as someone who is visually impaired and someone who works in accessibility in my 9-5, but my work said they plan to wait given the price, and I am really…like I understand why, and I agree with them… but it’s like… new thing, new platform, new potential… I have tried the simulator and it has what I need as someone who is visually impaired but… like what will it be like on a physical device? One big plus for me I see is: infinite monitors of infinite sizes, along with the AT (assistive technology) I already know how to use from other Apple products. That said, I see tremendous potential of this platform with the right software.
My first thought is that it will quickly become a content consumption device, much like my iPad Pro did. I bought the iPad Pro with the hope it would replace my laptop for retouching, but it just didn't work out. The Vision Pro is a bit different because you can sync right into your laptop for pro-level work and, maybe, gone are the days of multi-monitor setups. It's a tricky transition period. That said, I'm releasing a digital asset management app for visionOS. Will anyone use it? If my App Store iOS vs. macOS stats are any indication... not really, at least not yet. I'm just inspired by the platform, so I want to be a part of it. As a visual creative, it's hard to imagine a better way to immerse yourself in your work.
I'd like to see info about it and how things work since I'm interested in developing apps for it but have no idea what is possible since I won't be able to afford it
The real issue is the price, at $1000 or even $1500 it would be more bearable as this is just a video watching device with some very light gaming since there arent actual vr controllers like the quests. But at 3500 it seems like apple are money guilt tripping people into justifying it rather than looking forward to it without the guilt trip
About 90% sure that I'll preorder this Friday... but that 10% doubt also keeps telling me that this is quite a bit of money for a device & maybe I should hold off. Still.. I'll likely end up getting it.. I think.
I'm going to continue being a spectator on this one, because I literally just don't have the money for it. It's not actually THAT expensive, when you compare it to the devices it replaces. I'll be saving for mine, but it's going to be a while. Maybe the Vision Non-Pro?!
I will be hard-pressed to buy it site unseen. I need to have it on my head and experience it before I can shell out that amount of money. I am certainly intrigued. I am thrilled that this product is coming out. If it is for me, then it will be for me, if not, then maybe later.
If you are familiar with the Apple ecosystem, the file system is consistent across all products. No questions there .. The OS of Vision Pro is an iteration of iOS and that has been documented. I would like you to get some info that’s not being told by every reviewer.
all this device is a stepping stone to the ultimate goal, the glasses. the glasses would be useful since i wear glasses. 4 grand for ski goggles, nope!
Great video. It’s hard for me to recommend someone spend $3500 for an experimental device. I know I will watch different viewpoints about this new technology. I clicked on this one because I thought you were one of the media sites who had access to the device. I will not buy one, but I am not the ideal customer for this device. I think they are 3 types- the developer or the people who have the ability to advance the technology or uses of the device, the critic or “reviewer” who can provide detailed analysis and breakdown the features to the general public and finally the “early adopters” people who can afford the latest tech and will let everyone else know if it has the “it factor” and is fun to use. To me you are definitely in the critic/reviewer space and unless it is an unmitigated failure, millions of people who do not fit the customer profiles will be interested in hearing from.
I think the "Pro" is only there to help you feel better about the degree Apple is going to violate your wallet. When this actually get's launched at a reasonable price, I expect all of the features will still be present, and probably a few more to boot.
I’m definitely interested in the technology. The price is too high for me given the limitations of size weight and short battery life, but those are all things that can be addressed as the product evolves. Definitely like the idea of how they’re changing the way we interact with technology.
I’m honestly still on the fence. I might try to order one just to see what it can do. I don’t think watching other people review it will help me determine if it’s worth it to me. The fact that I can’t share it with my wife or kids is a big negative for me. I don’t think we need to be more isolated from people than we already are with the technology we have now. Very curious to see how it will be received.
I’m sure it’s not meant to be an outdoor product. The video package never shows anything outside the home except on a plane. A future product will be able to due to making it small and battery tech getting better.
I was on the fence as well but the way I see it.. if I don’t see/ feel like it’s completely worth the money after I get it, I’m sure I can turn around and sell it for more than I paid for it being that it’s going to be a limited amount. I’m going to get it day one. Side note: it’s over 350million people in America alone. If they’re only going to release 80k of them for preorder it’s no guarantee that we’re even going to be able to purchase it for sure. If you’re able to get an order through I feel like that would be a sign that you’re suppose to have it lol. If you don’t, you saved yourself $3500+ $$
The biggest con is the price. Will be very challenging for this project to take off given that it will not be adopted by the masses. It's hard enough for people to pay $1k for their iPhones, so an Apple product thats 3x their phone cost is a fail imo.
not your main topic, but you mentioned apple blew the AirPod max case... I know thats a popular opinion, but do you own one? have you travelled with it? its not meant to be seen, its meant to take minimal space when you pack it in your backpack. and it excels at that. I wasted money on a bulky case because everyone said you did. nope. the apple case works great. get over how it looks. it's much easier to pack. okay, back to your topic. been following the news and will likely get one to get a glimpse of the future.
Thank you for your honest review of the Vision Pro. I live in Germany and won't have the opportunity to buy an Apple Vision Pro until later in the year anyway. I have decided not to buy the first generation of a new product this time. Seeing how fast Apple updates its processors, the first generation Apple Vision Pro will soon be an obsolete product. I had that experience with the first Apple Watch and I don't want to repeat it, not at that price. I only got back into the Apple Watch with the 6th generation and still wear it today. With the Vision Pro, I'll wait for all the reviews to come out and decide later if a second or third generation comes onto the market.
So far, most of the apps I have seen are just flat panels floating on the screen. The spatial features have not been demonstrated, not really. As a productivity tool, touchless keyboards and eye tracking are still new experiences for most people and there will be rejection at first. So far, there are really no spatial games for it. This is more like a media consumption device. Apple stock is taking a hit due to slagging iPhone sales, so the future of the company rests on the success of this new product line. I'm on the same page with you. I just dont know.
@@paulrevere1479 no one is saying apple is doomed. The video is more about whether or not makes sense for "regular" people to buy this first gen device at 4k piece. I know a lot of app developers, and none of them are interested in developing for this device or buying it. This is just the first, there will be more to come, and those will probably have a better chance of success.
I don’t know where you’re getting your data, but for the first time in over a decade, Apple has taken over Samsung as the number one cell phone seller in the world. So I’m not 100% sure your data is accurate.
@@guacamole456 What’s with this first gen device nonsense? Apple has worked on this for nearly a decade. While this is may be version one to us, this is certainly not version one to Apple. You can sit around and wait for the next best thing all you want but there will always be a next best thing. Why buy anything if you’re going to wait for something better? This device has tech in it that was only a fantasy to have before now. 2 micro-oled 4k+ screens in each eye? A fantasy before now. The amount of tech in this device is worth way more than the price it’s selling for. People are just bitter because they can’t afford it. If they could afford it they wouldn’t say “who is this for?”
@@paulrevere1479 exactly, you nailed in the head, the VisionPro is perfect for peope like you that just buy stuff because is cool and can afford it. that is what first adopters are. No one is arguing that it is an impressive piece of technology. I'm not a first adopter. I'm not getting it, period.
Really? You really want to compute for 8 hours with 650g hanging off your face? I think the value needs to be a lot more unique than just Mac utility, as I'd rather use a Mac for Mac stuff.
@bujin5455 Yes, I do! The idea of everything on a computer fits in a small form factor is neat. Holograms will be interesting. Plus, this is just the first version. Wait until Windows and Linux spatial computers show up. Probably in lighter materials. The glasses will get smaller and lighter. We might get helmet spatial computers that distribute the weight across the whole head. So people wear helmets like the Mandalorian with larger battery packs.
@@MeNoOther I agree that the "idea" of a computer fitting in that form factor is neat. I think the reality of using a hot heavy thing hugging your face for 8+ hours is hell.
@@MeNoOther Also, Microsoft already had a crack at this a LONG TIME AGO. Remember the HoloLens? They even released a follow up, the HoloLens 2. So yeah, that's a thing already.
On another note I would wait to see how Apple responds to the ongoing lawsuit with watches. If they have to pull them Apple is going to take a massive loss. I think it may cover series 6 onward. Apple pulls the sensor and they would essentially need to refund people thousands. Just in my home alone the last time I checked pulling/disabling product would entitle me to over 10k in damages. Without going into detail I am sure you all get the point.
It’s a new product with a high price tag; I’m going to wait for the 2nd generation. Don’t want to spend almost $3.9K (w/taxes) to be a guinea pig. Want to hear the feedback from the early adopters and give the apple team time to improve the product, especially since Vision hasn’t been through the public ringer. It needs to be a game changer to justify the cost. The “cool factor” for owning one could wear off quick, and there are other options that could be more in-line with our use case.
Yeah don’t buy first gen. Look at how lackluster and quickly abandoned the gen 1 Apple Watch was. Feel bad for those people that spent $10K on the premium material one lol
As someone who is already using VR headsets…I just can’t justify the price…even with the better features of AVP. It still comes down to practical usage…compared to say, a comparable priced desktop…just don’t see where my usage would warrant the spend given the limitations of power supply and wearability.
I'll wait for Apple Vision Air without Eyesight (I don't want others to deduce what I'm doing and I really don't care for the human contact), much lighter and cheaper. It's too pricy.
My opinion, Wait! I'm a techie, too... but I don't see the price point as being practical. Soon, someone will do a versus video, comparing this against the Meta Quest and other headsets. The question won't be if it's better. The real question will be: Is it worth $3,000 more! I've seen every video on the product so far, and I'm still wondering what the big deal is. Then again, I still don't understand why MacBooks cost 4-5 times more than Windows laptops, and I own 2 MacBook's!
For me honestly, i won't buy it because I don't own no Apple products i been fine with my window android Eco system plus im a gamer so vr for me has been more in steam and meta at the moment, good for apple for giving people more options to buy the headset that fix their budget 👍🏽
Apple games will need to be redesigned for VR. Otherwise you may as well just be playing on your Mac/iPad or Phone. Let's be honest. The games for Apple are not the best. They never have been as Apple isn't known for gaming. This will be more for productivity and that is where it has the most potential. I can see them being the BEST at making VR apps for business and productivity. There are other VR headsets that are "passable" for productivity (Meta 3) but will outshine Apple in gaming. The question is, will enough people be willing to pay that much to work on their computers in VR?
Who the fuck wants to drop almost 4k USD to be a beta tester for this tech? Plus the weight and inconvenience of putting them on and taking off. Would’ve been more convenient if they’d been able to make light weight glasses with accessories like light/wind guards. Probably be better if they weren’t so costly and bulky.
According to a UA-camr that tried it already 4 times, it's not comfortable enough to watch a full movie with it and start getting heavy after about 15 minutes, so bye bye productivity work... I guess early adopters might regret their purchase sooner or later because Apple will probably launch another Apple Vision No-Pro with lower res, probably more like Pimax Crystal or BSB because of availability and prices of displays, no front display for probably half the price that they also can produce and sell millions of times.
Apple did all their loyal customers a huge disservice. They priced this product outside the margins for so many people. I have purchased almost every Apple product and multiples in some cases since their is 5 of us. But $3,500 plus tax is way too much. It’s priced to push loyal customers out of this market, not to mention being a unicorn. In that sense I mean that it’s priced in a way that product will not be purchased by many or at least the commoners. Essentially people may be beta testers opposed to actual consumers, similar to Amazon Glow. But for 4k it’s simply too much. Then again could this be a business write off…if I did it that way I would likely wait a bit to see how the year is going. If you have and can justify it buy it! But if life is hard wait and play it by ear, as it looks like a glorified meta or similar device.
In other words, it will be the usual disappointing Apple accessory release, then like the iPad no one will use it after a year or so. It's sad watching people push this just because it's apple hence awesome.for some reason🤷🤷🤷
I’ve been an early adopter of Apple products since the first iPod. The AVP is the first new product I’m not sure I’ll be setting an alarm to make the pre order for. I think you hit the nail on the head. If I could use this as a work computer to really get my moneys worth I’d be sold, but early reports from tech journalists I trust have all confirmed this thing is very heavy, making it something you might not want to use for an hour +. I think that’s partly why apples marketing of this product has shifted from “Spacial Computer” to essentially “Revolutionary Entertainment Device.” I want to want it and I hope it’s successful.
I Would, be Employer with employees in home office, this is my dream come, true! I have hundred percent control that there are actually working from home, where their eyes are, and what they are doing. Instead of supplying them with the expense, PC, workspace, chair, and desk I would give them, the Apple Vision Pro with the proper software, and a bunch of batteries. The future of home offices.
Apple would not allow those kinds of creeping software for something like this especially with where people are looking. That would be a privacy nightmare. You sound like the worst kind of employer tbh
Avid Apple user here. Can’t afford it at all. But I see that if Vision Pro succeeds it’s going to change the world probably for the worse. It’s the equivalent to the experience machine thought experiment: either people is hedonistic or not, if people’s goals are purely hedonistic we have all reason to get plugged into mixed reality, but we won’t have freedom or access to reality on the long term, if people isn’t purely hedonistic, we don’t have good reasons to get plugged but everything will be occurring in the mixed universe… so bad luck, you have to be plugged, otherwise … reduced access to primary resources is a likely outcome. I will get the device if given the chance, anyway….
I really don't get the price. I know it's first gen and it's packed with brand new tech but I wonder if Apple shouldn't have found a way to shave a thousand bucks off this. Build an install base like video game consoles, make the investment to move these things even if this cut out your profits for now. The curiosity is huge but the cost is wildly almost laughably prohibitive. I see the future Apple (and Meta) want to build, I am all in, but I am not investing for now. As a tech enthusiast I'm next in line that means the masses are even further removed. Apple has a giant wall to climb. I wonder what Apples adaption rate projections really are, are they realistic. Is it a 3 year plan, a 5 years plan...
I respectfully disagree. We have had a decade of cheaper VR headsets ($300-$1,500) and there’s a reason they only have 10% retention. The quality of the experiences are limited and the user barriers are too high: weak gaming-centric software, middling mobile processors, clunky Wii controllers, blurry passthrough and mirroring, cheesy graphics and UIs. A cheaper Vision Pro would have to compromise on crucial differentiating aspects like the display & graphics, passthrough clarity, Mac-level processor, the sensors & input methods, Spatial Audio drivers, years of R&D poured into a purpose-made OS and UI, media content deals and acquisitions, etc. At that point it’s a completely different and compromised product. It needs to first be capable of enabling breakthrough experiences. Once they’ve planted a flag and people see they’ve achieved next level quality, they can slowly bring the cost down, sell more units, continue optimizing the software, build out the content ecosystem, etc. Palmer Luckey, the founder of Oculus, has gone on record saying this is the right approach for Apple and one he tried to do at Oculus before being overruled. Having said that, there will likely be different tiers and market segments as there are for many other products. The market for low end and/or gaming-centric headsets is still wide open.
I can hook up keyboard and mice, monitors, storage, do multi screen, I edit in Lightroom and have used Final Cut Pro. I'd say that kicks the crap out of any computer I had growing up and is more than enough for most people these days? I think this is all changing right now as we speak! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Gotta be honest: I don’t get this AT ALL. Very expensive. A bulky, heavy unit that doesn’t have huge storage and probably has sketchy battery life? Can’t wear it out in the real world? I’d have to see what the next generation of this toy brings before I’d even think about it.
When it comes to apples first Gen prodcuts you have to look at it for what it will be 3-4 generations from now. The 1st iPhone was fine but most thought it was way too expensive, unnecessary, and just for enthusiasts. By the time we got to the 3GS and iPhone 4, it was everywhere. Same with iPad. The Vision Pro is the START of the journey toward slim glasses you use everyday instead of your phone+tablet+laptop+tv, all that hardware can collapse into spatial glasses.
When people say they don’t get it, that’s usually because it’s not something they need. I am not saying you are doing this, but I read posts of many people trying to find usage for this in their lives. If you are looking for a reason, it’s not for you. Skip the buy because you are not the demographic at this moment.
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Bonus points if you record in spatial video
I planned on buying it the first time I saw it when it was announced. Friday I can order it... the two things I am worried about the weight... another reviewer said it is about 1pound and he said he was fatigued around 15 minutes... he didn't think he could make it an hour, so a 2 hour movie would be a challenge. MAybe that is something we get use to... depending on how much of the weight is on your nose (which is a bad place to put the weight but doesn't sound like the weight is there). The second issue is that I am nearsighted and would need to buy the inserts... the inserts are just $150 so that is actually really cheap from what was speculated. So that is less of an issue (I just found that out and found my prescription.. so that won't be a hassle). The weight worries me because I don't want to spend a lot of money and not use it because it is heavy or just use it for short periods of time... I'm on my computer all day (maybe a good alternative to a standing desk... alternate back and forth) Will this take off over time... simple answer is yes... the dream goal for computers is to have holographic displays and talk to the computer and control a device with your eyes or hand gestures. This accomplishes that... in the future maybe they are just regular glasses (tech that exists) but this is far superior but again the weight. It is Wednesday and I am still planning on ordering it Friday. The weight has tempered by hype for this maybe 50% ... I will have to see where I am on Thursday.
Definitely buy one. The content you make on it with pay for it.
@@KodaVoss I have to wonder if any of the people complaining about weight have ever spent time in a Meta Quest headset. That is to say, I don’t think Apple is committing any kind of original sin here so much as failing to improve much upon the burden that goes with current state of the art in VR. And yes, Tim Apple, it’s VR.
I’m still going to order it the second it’s available 😅
It’s so refreshing to hear you people say you won’t buy it because that means I have a better chance of getting one on day 1. Thank you!!
I am already tapping into my 401k as we speak
love it!
Facts lol
Same mentality 👀
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"I have more questions than crystal balls." ...I like it. Nice turn of phrase!
Always been an early adopter. I worked at Apple retail for 15 years as a creative. I remember the 1st iPhone launch very well. This one I'm leaning towards getting, but still not at 100%. sure. My guess is I will get it. I love the VR aspect and believe that when Apple delves into something like this, they do it well.
I’ll have my 14th Appleversary in July. SO excited to learn the whole demo path. Not long now!
I will buy the Vision Pro. I have already created 73 panoramas and 26 spatial videos via my iPhone 15 Pro Max. I meditate each day and want to use the mindfulness app. I create various documents and plan to use the Siri dictate feature. I plan to watch movies via Vision Pro in place of my TV. I want to explore any new apps. For me, it is not a toy, I will use it for the activities I enjoy.
When it comes to apples first Gen prodcuts you have to look at it for what it will be 3-4 generations from now. The 1st iPhone was fine but most thought it was way too expensive, unnecessary, and just for enthusiasts. By the time we got to the 3GS and iPhone 4, it was everywhere. Same with iPad. The Vision Pro is the START of the journey toward slim glasses you use everyday instead of your phone+tablet+laptop+tv, all that hardware can collapse into spatial glasses.
Well said and thanks for watching!
If I’m going to by a toy I’d likely only use a few times a month it has to be 2k or less.
@@Story_Teller_Everyone then don’t buy this model and clearly you’re not the audience lol a cheaper lighter version will come that’s mostly likely in iPad price range
False. Statement. The iPhone changed everything.. with this .. I’m not sure it’s the same thing. Not sure it’s an iPhone moment. Maybe I’m wrong .. but I remember the change the first iPhone brought .. and that was just looking at the photo.. we knew.
@@Instant_NerfI remember it too and not everyone was on board there were many news outlets trying to write its obituary. I also think post iPhone it’s hard for anyone to capture that again, we are not naive to what tech can do anymore expectation is 10 years ahead of the tech. It will get there.
Love the vibe in this channel. So positive and welcoming. Keep it up man you are awesome
Really appreciate the kind words! Thanks for hanging around!
If I wasn't currently in debt I'd buy it. It's a new computing paradigm that only apple can pull off
7:59 “isn’t it sad we are trying to find justifications to buy this product”.
Dude I started laughing so hard because it’s so true. If that’s the case then maybe we don’t need the product at this moment.
I wonder if the Vision Pro will be a yearly release. For that price tag, I’m definitely not buying but curious about future gens at a lower price point
I think they'll start slowly making it more and more VR games oriented while keeping all the commute functionality. They'd eventually over take Meta, or maybe they keep there's more like a computer while giving the gaming to Meta and other companies the gaming win
I'm been asking myself that same question. Considering the fact it took Apple six years to develop this (which is three times longer than it took them to develop the first iPhone) it's hard to believe they are likely to have a yearly release cadence. They could of course do incremental improvements, like moving to M3+, moving to the newest version of WiFi, etc, but can they meaningfully improves the experience on a yearly schedule? Shrink it down, strip the weight out, improve the optical stack, meaningfully improve battery life, drive the price down to a mainstream price point? I don't think they are likely to make meaningful advancements on those fronts on a yearly basis. So the question is: Is Apple willing to retool on a yearly basis to make incremental spec bumps on a niche product? And in general, historically, the answer to that has been "no." The only curve ball here is that Apple may wish to push for accelerated development to drive toward mass market, but at the price they are launching at, that doesn't really look like their objective at the moment. I think they are launching with a strong enough feature set to not need to upgrade it for a while, and give the developer community time to build out an ecosystem, before they start getting aggressive about iterating on the product.
Getting it once it hits more countries!
I'm buying it. It's potentially a seismic change in computing. I know it is first gen, I know it has the potential to flop. All of that but it is fun to on the cusp of innovation. Also, Apple products tend to hold its value and have high resell. I am truly excited for it.
Well I’m a person and I care so your theory is kinda wack 🤷🏾♂️
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I’m on the fence as well. I look at this as an accessibility tool for me personally as someone who is visually impaired and someone who works in accessibility in my 9-5, but my work said they plan to wait given the price, and I am really…like I understand why, and I agree with them… but it’s like… new thing, new platform, new potential… I have tried the simulator and it has what I need as someone who is visually impaired but… like what will it be like on a physical device? One big plus for me I see is: infinite monitors of infinite sizes, along with the AT (assistive technology) I already know how to use from other Apple products. That said, I see tremendous potential of this platform with the right software.
I would like to know what type of prescription I need to get on my optometrist. There's still no news on this
My first thought is that it will quickly become a content consumption device, much like my iPad Pro did. I bought the iPad Pro with the hope it would replace my laptop for retouching, but it just didn't work out. The Vision Pro is a bit different because you can sync right into your laptop for pro-level work and, maybe, gone are the days of multi-monitor setups. It's a tricky transition period. That said, I'm releasing a digital asset management app for visionOS. Will anyone use it? If my App Store iOS vs. macOS stats are any indication... not really, at least not yet. I'm just inspired by the platform, so I want to be a part of it. As a visual creative, it's hard to imagine a better way to immerse yourself in your work.
I’m looking more at it as a pc replacement as long as the ram can handle multitasking
I'd like to see info about it and how things work since I'm interested in developing apps for it but have no idea what is possible since I won't be able to afford it
The real issue is the price, at $1000 or even $1500 it would be more bearable as this is just a video watching device with some very light gaming since there arent actual vr controllers like the quests. But at 3500 it seems like apple are money guilt tripping people into justifying it rather than looking forward to it without the guilt trip
One of my questions is how can I watch movies with my family?
I’m buying Apple shares/stock. This is the iPod, iPhone, Mac, iPad, Air pods, all over again😎in 3-7 years this will be the norm.
About 90% sure that I'll preorder this Friday... but that 10% doubt also keeps telling me that this is quite a bit of money for a device & maybe I should hold off. Still.. I'll likely end up getting it.. I think.
I'm going to continue being a spectator on this one, because I literally just don't have the money for it. It's not actually THAT expensive, when you compare it to the devices it replaces. I'll be saving for mine, but it's going to be a while.
Maybe the Vision Non-Pro?!
I will be hard-pressed to buy it site unseen. I need to have it on my head and experience it before I can shell out that amount of money. I am certainly intrigued. I am thrilled that this product is coming out. If it is for me, then it will be for me, if not, then maybe later.
If you are familiar with the Apple ecosystem, the file system is consistent across all products. No questions there .. The OS of Vision Pro is an iteration of iOS and that has been documented.
I would like you to get some info that’s not being told by every reviewer.
all this device is a stepping stone to the ultimate goal, the glasses. the glasses would be useful since i wear glasses. 4 grand for ski goggles, nope!
I can’t wait to wake up and order this Friday morning 😅
Great video. It’s hard for me to recommend someone spend $3500 for an experimental device. I know I will watch different viewpoints about this new technology. I clicked on this one because I thought you were one of the media sites who had access to the device. I will not buy one, but I am not the ideal customer for this device. I think they are 3 types- the developer or the people who have the ability to advance the technology or uses of the device, the critic or “reviewer” who can provide detailed analysis and breakdown the features to the general public and finally the “early adopters” people who can afford the latest tech and will let everyone else know if it has the “it factor” and is fun to use. To me you are definitely in the critic/reviewer space and unless it is an unmitigated failure, millions of people who do not fit the customer profiles will be interested in hearing from.
as you mentioned about non-pro version I’m wondering what features it would be left out …mabye storage or less features…we’ll all see🤙🍻
I think the "Pro" is only there to help you feel better about the degree Apple is going to violate your wallet. When this actually get's launched at a reasonable price, I expect all of the features will still be present, and probably a few more to boot.
I’m definitely interested in the technology. The price is too high for me given the limitations of size weight and short battery life, but those are all things that can be addressed as the product evolves. Definitely like the idea of how they’re changing the way we interact with technology.
I personally think it will be a very useful gadget. It would be lovely if some of the iPhone apps also come in 3D.
I’m honestly still on the fence. I might try to order one just to see what it can do. I don’t think watching other people review it will help me determine if it’s worth it to me. The fact that I can’t share it with my wife or kids is a big negative for me. I don’t think we need to be more isolated from people than we already are with the technology we have now.
Very curious to see how it will be received.
Get it! I want to live vicariously until lower-cost versions come out and I can afford it.
Great conversation , u are smart dude please we want unboxing 🎉
I’m sure it’s not meant to be an outdoor product. The video package never shows anything outside the home except on a plane. A future product will be able to due to making it small and battery tech getting better.
I am going to get it period.
This device is like free, I don't need this to pay for rent or food, I need a TRUE Reference level VR and that will complete my life.
I cant't wait. I have the whole apple eco system and I think this will extend it.
Getting one
$3500 + tax is a no, especially for apple’s 1’st gen products.
I was on the fence as well but the way I see it.. if I don’t see/ feel like it’s completely worth the money after I get it, I’m sure I can turn around and sell it for more than I paid for it being that it’s going to be a limited amount. I’m going to get it day one.
Side note: it’s over 350million people in America alone. If they’re only going to release 80k of them for preorder it’s no guarantee that we’re even going to be able to purchase it for sure. If you’re able to get an order through I feel like that would be a sign that you’re suppose to have it lol. If you don’t, you saved yourself $3500+ $$
I need to see how photoshop, video editing software, Blender do on this
The biggest con is the price. Will be very challenging for this project to take off given that it will not be adopted by the masses. It's hard enough for people to pay $1k for their iPhones, so an Apple product thats 3x their phone cost is a fail imo.
However, hoe much value on the reputation of apple does the vision pro add, to the comapny
not your main topic, but you mentioned apple blew the AirPod max case... I know thats a popular opinion, but do you own one? have you travelled with it? its not meant to be seen, its meant to take minimal space when you pack it in your backpack. and it excels at that. I wasted money on a bulky case because everyone said you did. nope. the apple case works great. get over how it looks. it's much easier to pack. okay, back to your topic. been following the news and will likely get one to get a glimpse of the future.
Thank you for your honest review of the Vision Pro. I live in Germany and won't have the opportunity to buy an Apple Vision Pro until later in the year anyway. I have decided not to buy the first generation of a new product this time. Seeing how fast Apple updates its processors, the first generation Apple Vision Pro will soon be an obsolete product. I had that experience with the first Apple Watch and I don't want to repeat it, not at that price. I only got back into the Apple Watch with the 6th generation and still wear it today. With the Vision Pro, I'll wait for all the reviews to come out and decide later if a second or third generation comes onto the market.
So far, most of the apps I have seen are just flat panels floating on the screen. The spatial features have not been demonstrated, not really. As a productivity tool, touchless keyboards and eye tracking are still new experiences for most people and there will be rejection at first. So far, there are really no spatial games for it. This is more like a media consumption device. Apple stock is taking a hit due to slagging iPhone sales, so the future of the company rests on the success of this new product line. I'm on the same page with you. I just dont know.
You know how many times Apple has been said to be doomed?
@@paulrevere1479 no one is saying apple is doomed. The video is more about whether or not makes sense for "regular" people to buy this first gen device at 4k piece. I know a lot of app developers, and none of them are interested in developing for this device or buying it. This is just the first, there will be more to come, and those will probably have a better chance of success.
I don’t know where you’re getting your data, but for the first time in over a decade, Apple has taken over Samsung as the number one cell phone seller in the world. So I’m not 100% sure your data is accurate.
@@guacamole456 What’s with this first gen device nonsense? Apple has worked on this for nearly a decade. While this is may be version one to us, this is certainly not version one to Apple. You can sit around and wait for the next best thing all you want but there will always be a next best thing. Why buy anything if you’re going to wait for something better? This device has tech in it that was only a fantasy to have before now. 2 micro-oled 4k+ screens in each eye? A fantasy before now. The amount of tech in this device is worth way more than the price it’s selling for. People are just bitter because they can’t afford it. If they could afford it they wouldn’t say “who is this for?”
@@paulrevere1479 exactly, you nailed in the head, the VisionPro is perfect for peope like you that just buy stuff because is cool and can afford it. that is what first adopters are. No one is arguing that it is an impressive piece of technology. I'm not a first adopter. I'm not getting it, period.
If this can do everything a computer Mac book can do, then it is worth it
Really? You really want to compute for 8 hours with 650g hanging off your face? I think the value needs to be a lot more unique than just Mac utility, as I'd rather use a Mac for Mac stuff.
@bujin5455 Yes, I do! The idea of everything on a computer fits in a small form factor is neat.
Holograms will be interesting. Plus, this is just the first version.
Wait until Windows and Linux spatial computers show up. Probably in lighter materials.
The glasses will get smaller and lighter.
We might get helmet spatial computers that distribute the weight across the whole head.
So people wear helmets like the Mandalorian with larger battery packs.
@@MeNoOther I agree that the "idea" of a computer fitting in that form factor is neat. I think the reality of using a hot heavy thing hugging your face for 8+ hours is hell.
@@MeNoOther Also, Microsoft already had a crack at this a LONG TIME AGO. Remember the HoloLens? They even released a follow up, the HoloLens 2. So yeah, that's a thing already.
Yes yes yes Ill buy it
Great vid
On another note I would wait to see how Apple responds to the ongoing lawsuit with watches. If they have to pull them Apple is going to take a massive loss. I think it may cover series 6 onward. Apple pulls the sensor and they would essentially need to refund people thousands. Just in my home alone the last time I checked pulling/disabling product would entitle me to over 10k in damages. Without going into detail I am sure you all get the point.
It’s a new product with a high price tag; I’m going to wait for the 2nd generation. Don’t want to spend almost $3.9K (w/taxes) to be a guinea pig.
Want to hear the feedback from the early adopters and give the apple team time to improve the product, especially since Vision hasn’t been through the public ringer. It needs to be a game changer to justify the cost. The “cool factor” for owning one could wear off quick, and there are other options that could be more in-line with our use case.
Yeah don’t buy first gen. Look at how lackluster and quickly abandoned the gen 1 Apple Watch was. Feel bad for those people that spent $10K on the premium material one lol
As someone who is already using VR headsets…I just can’t justify the price…even with the better features of AVP. It still comes down to practical usage…compared to say, a comparable priced desktop…just don’t see where my usage would warrant the spend given the limitations of power supply and wearability.
I'll wait for Apple Vision Air without Eyesight (I don't want others to deduce what I'm doing and I really don't care for the human contact), much lighter and cheaper. It's too pricy.
I'm cursed to pay the early adopter tax forever.
If you have to think about get it or not then don’t get it. I knew I want it so I got it.
segway 2001?
My opinion, Wait!
I'm a techie, too... but I don't see the price point as being practical. Soon, someone will do a versus video, comparing this against the Meta Quest and other headsets. The question won't be if it's better. The real question will be: Is it worth $3,000 more!
I've seen every video on the product so far, and I'm still wondering what the big deal is. Then again, I still don't understand why MacBooks cost 4-5 times more than Windows laptops, and I own 2 MacBook's!
Quest pro (the highest line) is $1000
@jc2358 right, and it's not worth twice as much as the quest 3
For me honestly, i won't buy it because I don't own no Apple products i been fine with my window android Eco system plus im a gamer so vr for me has been more in steam and meta at the moment, good for apple for giving people more options to buy the headset that fix their budget 👍🏽
How to make a 15 min video without saying anything valuable 😅
Apple games will need to be redesigned for VR. Otherwise you may as well just be playing on your Mac/iPad or Phone. Let's be honest. The games for Apple are not the best. They never have been as Apple isn't known for gaming. This will be more for productivity and that is where it has the most potential. I can see them being the BEST at making VR apps for business and productivity. There are other VR headsets that are "passable" for productivity (Meta 3) but will outshine Apple in gaming. The question is, will enough people be willing to pay that much to work on their computers in VR?
I doubt that this version of Apple vision pro will be usefull for productivity apps..
Mother's, Grandmother's, and others will buying these puppies like hot cakes.... how many Mega pixels? Lol
Who the fuck wants to drop almost 4k USD to be a beta tester for this tech?
Plus the weight and inconvenience of putting them on and taking off.
Would’ve been more convenient if they’d been able to make light weight glasses with accessories like light/wind guards.
Probably be better if they weren’t so costly and bulky.
According to a UA-camr that tried it already 4 times, it's not comfortable enough to watch a full movie with it and start getting heavy after about 15 minutes, so bye bye productivity work... I guess early adopters might regret their purchase sooner or later because Apple will probably launch another Apple Vision No-Pro with lower res, probably more like Pimax Crystal or BSB because of availability and prices of displays, no front display for probably half the price that they also can produce and sell millions of times.
Apple did all their loyal customers a huge disservice. They priced this product outside the margins for so many people. I have purchased almost every Apple product and multiples in some cases since their is 5 of us. But $3,500 plus tax is way too much. It’s priced to push loyal customers out of this market, not to mention being a unicorn. In that sense I mean that it’s priced in a way that product will not be purchased by many or at least the commoners. Essentially people may be beta testers opposed to actual consumers, similar to Amazon Glow. But for 4k it’s simply too much. Then again could this be a business write off…if I did it that way I would likely wait a bit to see how the year is going.
If you have and can justify it buy it! But if life is hard wait and play it by ear, as it looks like a glorified meta or similar device.
way overpriced compared to quest 3... which could do most things already
Get it duuuuude ❤
Huberman lite
In other words, it will be the usual disappointing Apple accessory release, then like the iPad no one will use it after a year or so.
It's sad watching people push this just because it's apple hence awesome.for some reason🤷🤷🤷
APPLES FIRST GEN PRODCUTS ARE PROSUMER/DEVELOPERS DEVICES DISGUISED AS FIRST GEN CONSUMER MODELS TO SHOW DEVELOPERS THE VISION AND WHERE TO START🗣️
I’ve been an early adopter of Apple products since the first iPod. The AVP is the first new product I’m not sure I’ll be setting an alarm to make the pre order for. I think you hit the nail on the head. If I could use this as a work computer to really get my moneys worth I’d be sold, but early reports from tech journalists I trust have all confirmed this thing is very heavy, making it something you might not want to use for an hour +. I think that’s partly why apples marketing of this product has shifted from “Spacial Computer” to essentially “Revolutionary Entertainment Device.” I want to want it and I hope it’s successful.
You are lying - where did they switch marketing??
To expensive. Developer or Business only.
I Would, be Employer with employees in home office, this is my dream come, true! I have hundred percent control that there are actually working from home, where their eyes are, and what they are doing. Instead of supplying them with the expense, PC, workspace, chair, and desk I would give them, the Apple Vision Pro with the proper software, and a bunch of batteries. The future of home offices.
Apple would not allow those kinds of creeping software for something like this especially with where people are looking. That would be a privacy nightmare. You sound like the worst kind of employer tbh
Save your money, I'm not interested in watching you watch TV😅
This gimmick seems to be like the 3D tv most didn’t want
Why is this video 20 minutes long? wtf is this nonsense rambling with 0 value add 🤦🏼♂️
Avid Apple user here. Can’t afford it at all. But I see that if Vision Pro succeeds it’s going to change the world probably for the worse. It’s the equivalent to the experience machine thought experiment: either people is hedonistic or not, if people’s goals are purely hedonistic we have all reason to get plugged into mixed reality, but we won’t have freedom or access to reality on the long term, if people isn’t purely hedonistic, we don’t have good reasons to get plugged but everything will be occurring in the mixed universe… so bad luck, you have to be plugged, otherwise … reduced access to primary resources is a likely outcome. I will get the device if given the chance, anyway….
Considering im.a poor fucker know thinks. Plus it's a gimmick VT always has been look at the past of vr.
I must admit, I have less than zero interest in this product.
I really don't get the price. I know it's first gen and it's packed with brand new tech but I wonder if Apple shouldn't have found a way to shave a thousand bucks off this. Build an install base like video game consoles, make the investment to move these things even if this cut out your profits for now. The curiosity is huge but the cost is wildly almost laughably prohibitive. I see the future Apple (and Meta) want to build, I am all in, but I am not investing for now. As a tech enthusiast I'm next in line that means the masses are even further removed. Apple has a giant wall to climb. I wonder what Apples adaption rate projections really are, are they realistic. Is it a 3 year plan, a 5 years plan...
I respectfully disagree. We have had a decade of cheaper VR headsets ($300-$1,500) and there’s a reason they only have 10% retention. The quality of the experiences are limited and the user barriers are too high: weak gaming-centric software, middling mobile processors, clunky Wii controllers, blurry passthrough and mirroring, cheesy graphics and UIs.
A cheaper Vision Pro would have to compromise on crucial differentiating aspects like the display & graphics, passthrough clarity, Mac-level processor, the sensors & input methods, Spatial Audio drivers, years of R&D poured into a purpose-made OS and UI, media content deals and acquisitions, etc. At that point it’s a completely different and compromised product.
It needs to first be capable of enabling breakthrough experiences. Once they’ve planted a flag and people see they’ve achieved next level quality, they can slowly bring the cost down, sell more units, continue optimizing the software, build out the content ecosystem, etc. Palmer Luckey, the founder of Oculus, has gone on record saying this is the right approach for Apple and one he tried to do at Oculus before being overruled.
Having said that, there will likely be different tiers and market segments as there are for many other products. The market for low end and/or gaming-centric headsets is still wide open.
“honest conversation” but uses bullshit clickbait thumbnail…
Sorry for the confusion, but thanks for checking it out
Too bulky
Sorry but you still can’t replace a computer with an iPad at least not for anything other than basic office work
I can hook up keyboard and mice, monitors, storage, do multi screen, I edit in Lightroom and have used Final Cut Pro. I'd say that kicks the crap out of any computer I had growing up and is more than enough for most people these days? I think this is all changing right now as we speak! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Gotta be honest: I don’t get this AT ALL. Very expensive. A bulky, heavy unit that doesn’t have huge storage and probably has sketchy battery life? Can’t wear it out in the real world? I’d have to see what the next generation of this toy brings before I’d even think about it.
No money to buy it? Is that it?
understood! certainly not for everyone. this will be interesting...
When it comes to apples first Gen prodcuts you have to look at it for what it will be 3-4 generations from now. The 1st iPhone was fine but most thought it was way too expensive, unnecessary, and just for enthusiasts. By the time we got to the 3GS and iPhone 4, it was everywhere. Same with iPad. The Vision Pro is the START of the journey toward slim glasses you use everyday instead of your phone+tablet+laptop+tv, all that hardware can collapse into spatial glasses.
You said it yourself. You don’t get it. You’re saying more about yourself than about the product or the people who do get it.
When people say they don’t get it, that’s usually because it’s not something they need. I am not saying you are doing this, but I read posts of many people trying to find usage for this in their lives. If you are looking for a reason, it’s not for you. Skip the buy because you are not the demographic at this moment.