Note: Some annotations in the video are swapped for the color volume and gamut. The TCL 5 and TCL 6 numbers are actually from the Samsung NU8000 and MU6300 respectively instead. The good values should be instead: TCL 6 Series (83.9%, 88.57%) and TCL 5 Series (72.5%, 90.13%). You can find the full table of measurements here: www.rtings.com/tv/tests/picture-quality/wide-color-gamut-rec-709-dci-p3-rec-2020 . Also, the annotations numbers of the TCL 5 Series shown in this video are instead of the Samsung MU6300. Our next video of the TCL 5 Series will have the correct numbers, and you can also see all of them in our review here: www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/5-series-2018-s517 .
Rtings.com I'm interesting in buying a Sharp Smart TV LC-43Q7000U. I've searched for reviews. But, I haven't found any. Please, make a review of this TV
have you noticed your contrast AND LOCAL DIMMING - which 5 series lacks? - where in vid 5 series is much more uniform, much higher contrast and the least cloudy and least light bloom around the square by far. Are we sure your 5 and 6 aren't reversed in video for those? One buys local dimming to eliminate what the 6 is showing horribly.
I've had this tv for 3 years now and the picture quality is really good. The only issue we sometimes experience is that the tv will occasionally turn off by itself. This usually happens 4-5 times a week. We never took the tv in to get it looked at, because we didn't want to not have a tv for a period of time. 4K movies look great, which is why we bought it.
Good video, great job guys, I showed how you can invert the legs in my review but people still think it doesn't really work, maybe now they can be sure it works.
Hello Joelster G4K. Since you have used the legs inverted, what is the minimum width size table this TV can *_SAFELY_* be placed on with inverted legs? Thank you.
Gergel70 The TV stand measures 28.5" with legs inverted, so anything larger than 30" width should be fine. You can see my review here. ua-cam.com/video/QMRjiNn2RuA/v-deo.html
Still have this TV in the 75 size and it's a monster. It even is better now with all of the firmware updates it's received in the past 4 years or so. One thing I can say it's very bright with the right picture settings.
Good review! I was all set to buy the P series on the strength of my BIL’s research and experience. Then just as I was going to pull the trigger I figured I’d make s google and sure enough, the 6 series was about to drop. So I waited a month or so and ordered our 55R617 on 4.26. I guess I got lucky as it arrived via prime on 4.30 with no QC or picture issues. A few adjustment to factory settings based on Joelster, TechnoDad and CNET did resolve some haloing and dirty screen effect that had me worried. Google “CNET TCL 6 series settings for a quick take. I’m a happy camper this far.
I ended up picking up the 65 inch TCL6 series at Best Buy on Black Friday weekend. I have very small uniformity issues. Looks like a faint checkerboard (might not be using a big enough diffuser between the backlight) more apparent on a bright white surface, but in movies, games, daily use, I never notice it, I could not be happier with my purchase! Amazing black levels, and astonishing highlights! Very good Peak brightness!
Thank you for the review i was going to buy the Sony X900E but decided to go with the TCL 65R615 Best Buy model of the 65R617. Save a few hounded bucks and get a few more inches as well.
@@RTINGSdotcom yes it's true if someone buys a tv and they are happy with the TV then that should be what matters most of all We all would love to have the perfect tv but if a TV gives me 90 percent of what I'm expecting then I'm satisfied.
The TCL R615 series is the Best Buy version. "If you don't care about the voice remote, Best Buy's 615 series is a bit cheaper. It comes with a standard remote without voice search and uses infrared (IR) technology so you have to aim it at the TV." Basically if you don't care about voice functions go with the R615 at Best Buy for about $30 cheaper.
One negative is you must have line of sight for the 615 to pick up the remote. The 617 can be aimed anywhere and the tv will still pick it up. Just something to keep in mind.
I hope your guys channel and website pick up a lot more with all these reviews. Theyre really good and informative. Unbiased to what i can tell as well which is great
Just purchased the 65" for $700 and it exceeds my expectations. Can get very bright, local dimming is better than I expected, probably better then some TV demos I've seen at Best buy. Kind of wish they had the 6 series on display in store, but I know PC Richard's does.
Agreed. I just picked up the 55R617 for just over $500 and the picture is outstanding. I also had to actually turn the brightness down out of the box, but the contrast and color depth is superb. I have not seen any recent TV's that can compete with TCL's performance and features for the price points of their 5- or 6-series models at the same value per dollar.
@@Fister_of_Muppets But now a tiny part of me is annoyed that there's a new version just announced. I mean the one we have is great, but if I knew a new one would've been announced I would've held off of buying.
@@mistamaog Same, I just bought mine 2 weeks ago. 55in r615, the picture is outstanding and I have no screen issues. But, the new r625 has qled and if it's anything like this one will be amazing. But I'm still very happy, went with a Samsung 7 series but kept dropping internet connection. Found out that's a big problem with Samsung TVs. Hooked the tcl up and holy cow, I noticed the picture was immediately way sharper and brighter than the Samsung. Then found out about Dolby vision and dang, even regular HD TV shows are better on the tcl. Samsung doesn't even offer Dolby vision on their TVs.
@wannabchomsky Yeah, it's still working perfectly and we watch a lot of TV. The reviews I've read on the r625 have not been as good as when the r615 came out. But I hear the 8 series is outstanding. Thanks for the reply, always feels good to hear you made a good decision.
@wannabchomsky I never buy the warranties, except on some of my pc parts from microcenter. I haven't had a single issue with my 615 and it's going on a year, the picture really is top notch for the price. If you want to get the extra protection I don't blame you, peace of mind is nice. It is definitely a quality TV, way better than the Samsung that was equally as expensive. I'm glad I bought it. I've watched a lot of TV on it, the sound isn't the best but that's not a big deal, I have a surround sound setup.
I just bought the TCL 55r615 and this tv is beyond awesome in picture quality. I have the 65x900f, 75z9f and the tcl guys. The TCL has the sharpest and clearest picture of the 3. It’s 60 hertz but is just as smooth as a 120 hertz compared two my two SONY TVs. At 449.99 it can’t be beat.
I got a nice uniform panel which is great since I bought online. I also inverted the legs and it still sits quite stable though I always have a strap to the wall here in earthquake country. No negatives from me, I think it was a good choice for the money and imo looks as good as some tv's that cost 1 - 1.2k dollars.
I just bought the 65 inch version brand new for $500 at bestbuy and I think it's really good for the price I paid. I also won the panel lottery thank God.
Literally the only negative about this TV is DSE. I use the 6-Series for my Xbox One X and it’s hardly noticeable in video games, but is slightly more noticeable in TV and movies. It’s still a great deal though.
Not buying a new TV until HDMI 2.1 is released and variable refresh rate is fully implemented on 120Hz panels. But in the mean time I got a very cheap TCL (S405) and it's working amazingly well for the price. So if they can offer something good in the 49" size in a couple of years from now then I'll give it a try, otherwise I'm getting a Sony.
I went with the Vizip P65-F1 ($900) mainly for the 120hz panel. The TCL 65R615 ($900) was a close second. I also considered the Sony 65X900F ($1500) and the Vizio PQ65-F1 ($1500). The Vizio PQ6-F1 was also a close second with the top notch high peak luminance and improved anti-reflection filter. The Sony has the best anti-reflection filter of all and a top notch anti reflection filter cannot be underestimated in importance...black levels are destroyed by reflections in lighted rooms...so in many situations the Sony will have superior black levels to these others, next the Vizio PQ65-F1, then the Vizio P65-F1, and then the TCL 65R615...although they are all better than average.
EscapeVelo the Vizio P65 and TCL 65R615 are my final 2 choices. I have the Vizio slightly above the TCL. What is your opinion on the Vizio P65, glad you chose that one? Any complaints yet? Thanks
@@5MinuteSuppReviews Either one would be a good choice. They both have low input lag. They both have uniformity issues. The Vizio apps kindof suck. The Roku platform is much better but you can hook up a streaming device to the Vizio so that's not really an issue. At 55" Id choose the TCL 6 Series for more Dimming Zones, at 65" the Vizio is a bit better with motion with the 120Hz panel. Cant go wrong either way.
EscapeVelo thanks for the quick reply and feedback. I appreciate it. I saw both in the store and I liked the Vizio a smidge more. Gonna wait and see during December which has a better deal. Thanks again!!
Only thing I notice is on black background with viewing credits there is white bloom around lettering to the zones like mentioned. Otherwise the t.v. is quite amazing for gaming
Great video. Wish there would have been more comparisons between the p607/605 since its closer than the 5 series. But from what I have seen, I am glad I have the P605. The grey uniformity is even worse on the 6 series. While I notice the Dirty Screen Effect about 20% of my total viewing experience, it's only on scenes that are one solid color or big sky scenes that move otherwise you don't notice it at all with most viewing. The input lag is also better on the the P series which is a plus for me. As for HDR/DV content, it's plenty bright. I run full brightness on SDR content so I am used to the whole screen being bright and I think most people are. What a lot of people don't understand is that the brightness is controlled by the meta data of the movie. Even full brightness may seem dark, but it's what the director intended and I am getting used to it more and more with each HDR/DV show/movie I watch.
Review is spot on. My 55R613 (Costco version) has slight dirty panels. For $400, it's far cheaper than Sony which has a better viewing angle. For spare room, this TV is fine. For critical viewing, OLED is the way to go but it's at least $2,000. My last TV was a 50" plasma but the TCL is so much brighter and is $1,000 cheaper. I also checked out the 2019 QLED model but did not think TCL's implementation of QLED technology improving much on contrast, just a marketing term. Pick your own poison.
@@UnArmedFilms4U last year in Costco before BB. The tariff had raised the prices for most imports. For the money, I would buy again but you need to ensure the panels are good, w/o noise/dirty image betwen the panels. Next upgrade would be OLED to improve the viewing angles and contrast. GL.
I’m going to wait for the Vizio P Quantum to release for reasons below: 1) The time between TVs should give TCL some room for a firmware update to make any improvements necessary. 2) The time between can also mean TCL will release more quality sets, thus lessening my chances for the dirty screen effect. 3) I am a “soap opera effect” fan when it comes to movies and shows, and a native 240Hz refresh rate is what sold me on my current Vizio TV (I tested this feature in Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers using “The Battle For Helm’s Deep” battle scene; I was won over). I’m not going to dismiss the TCL 6 TVs yet as I have not seen their MoInt in action yet. I am aware the native refresh rate is 60Hz. 4)I want to see what the input lag is going to be on the P Quantum as I do serious gaming. In the end, one of these TVs will decide how I join the 4K HDR era. Better start putting money aside, I guess. Man...first world problems indeed...
Eric DiDomenico I currently have a 65 inch 1080p plasma. I want to enjoy 4K. My choices right now are 75 inch Vizio E series or tcl 65 inch 6 series. What do u think ?
Arnold Nathan You should first decide which screen size is what fits best for the room. Honestly, I feel the TCL would be a better option. That’s just by the specs alone. But I haven’t used it so I can’t comment too much on it. Compare the specs of both TVs, but I prefer the specs of TCL right now. If you use Roku or do a lot of streaming, then TCL would be a better choice, especially if you’re a cord cutter and you stream a lot of channels.
Good review. It's a fair review but it can't be understated that there's a strong chance of getting a bad panel. If you get a good panel, then this review applies. I bought the R615 65 inch and occasionally notice significant corner shadows, so am thinking about returning it and getting a Samsung NU8000 for about $200 more. I wanted a Samsung QLED but it's a little outside my price range. I feel that Samsung and other big names have better quality control as well as panel uniformity (as mentioned in this video). Thoughts?
I really like this TV. I had the Best But version (R615) and the P605 too. Is better than last year. For the price, there's no competition. I thought that Vizio will be greater competition to TCL but not this year.
I just bought one of these and returned it the next day. It did have horrible dirty screen effect, it wasn't as bad when watching tv/movies, but became unbearable when playing games. Also I was not that impressed with the picture quality over my 5 year old Samsung f5500 plasma, which was a mid range plasma when it came out, even on HDR/Dolby vision content, but imo way better than any lcd still. The blooming on the TCL was annoying too, not sure if i'll ever get used to local dimming, I think Id prefer an LCD without it. I think I'm going to save for an Oled, it's the only thing that is an upgrade from plasma, except maybe the Samsung Q9f that looks amazing but its way too expensive.
Thank you for showing us the hockey game in this one, I wish more of the videos had that. I'm trying to find the right- hockey tv. And this one- doesn't appear to be it. Is the drag in the hockey game a result of the dirty screen effect? I know you have the top 10 TVs article for sport, but what are suggestions for a $500 budget or so? I'm looking at the Vizio M558-G1, and maybe something from Samsung like the Q7R... Any good recommendations out there for hockey or general sports?
I just got this and I am relatively happy with it, but there are issues with movement blurring and artifacting. All TVs are going to have some issues though and for the price, it's a very nice TV.
I'd love to see a review on the TCL x4 65" QLED (and/or 55"), do you guys plan on doing one? As someone who sells TV's, there is very little to no information about this panel out there aside from the standard manufacturer specs and typical training videos. I've messed around with the panel in store and it holds up pretty well, but I can't do comprehensive testing like you guys can. From what I saw of CES though, it looks as though TCL are pulling out the big boy gloves and jumping into the fray with Samsung and LG. So it'll be interesting to see how well they hold up against other QLED's for the much cheaper price tag.
You need to test the 65" version. Uniformity is worse than on the 55" model. Corner vignetting also wasn't mentioned here and can be quite significant.
i have had my 6 Series tv for a few weeks, and initially there was some uniformity issues, but after a few days of using the tv only thing i see is in the corners a little darkness, rest of the screen has really leveled out very nicely for me i have no complaints or problems so far with my tv, i use netflix, plex and ps4 pro and have my PC hooked to it as well i use yamaha sound bar so i can't speak to the speaker quality on the tv
You just need to tone down the color down to 35 for better skin tone. I actually match oled skin tone to my tcl 6 series. The only thing it cant match oled is the contrast and blooming the rest are good and choose warm color instead of cool and normal
Curious... So the P series only allowed audio played on phones/tablets only if you use the tvs apps. Using an external input, it'd disable it entirely. Wonder if the 6 series fixes that. Seems like a brighter, slightly bulkier tv than my 55p605. But! Roughly 7ms more input lag. Which, 17-20ms is still awesome. But 12ms on the p605 and a pc mouse, was almost an eye opening experience coming from 34ms.
Nickolas Schneider, I bought a new 55 inch, within 6 months it didn't work. They replaced it and within 8 months that one didn't work. At this point I can hang about 14 coats on it.
An excellently comprehensive and intelligible review, as always. However, the comment about the TCL 6 having a limited number of local dimming zones is curious, as the 55" panel has 96. What is your reference/standard for number of zones? I mean, the Vizio E-series has just 10 zones.
I believe the 65'' has 125 dimming zones. That seems like a pretty huge amount! I'm struggling to even think of how they could have that many "zones" on a mere 55'' or 65''! I have _no_ problems with my white mouse moving around on a black background. I have had a TV that did have that issue, but even then it was a rare situation.
Clouding due to the limit # of local dimming zones? The 6 series has a lot of local dimming zones, 🤔. And the video of the dimming you've posted looks great so I'm even more confused. This seems to be a trend where you are making these claims about the local dimming of the TCL 6 series compared to other models but when looking for proof to those statements they don't hold up. Would love to hear an explanation.
True got the tcl 6 and the local dimming is really good compare to x950 and x900f this tv got 96 zones on 55 and 120 on 65 inch. Compared both sony x900f vs tcl6 om blooming tcl 6 wins by miles.
On May 9, 2018, tech writer Will Greenwald at PCMag.com gave this model a favorable review, but he did point out that it definitely wasn't energy efficient. Also, on May 19, 2018, tech writer Nick Pino at TechRadar.com mentioned that this model likes to be viewed in a dimly lit room. Put it in a brightly lit room and it will disappoint, he said.
I considered this model until I saw complaints about dirty screen effect, or vertical bands on picture where its all one color, . ie: blue sky, hockey rink, etc.
lol I'm saddened to learn spending $ 800.00-1,000 is still considered a Budget Tv . I'll just sit here and enjoy my Aldi's mac n cheese and watch all you fancy wealthy people out there .
I bought a vizio p series and and tcl 6 series. I have no idea why you guys recommended the p series over the 6. the colors are so dead in comparison. The only good thing is the 120 hz motion handled sports better. Everything else including hdr and dolby shines on the tcl vs the vizio p.
Hi Danial, I would like to buy the TCL series 6 R617 in Canada. Is this possible ? Also is this TV in Canada the same model number ? What stores can I buy it from. Thank you.
If you have the official Roku app, you can absolutely listen to whatever is on the TV through your phone. It's also possible if you have a Roku remote control with a 3.5mm headphone jack.
Note: Some annotations in the video are swapped for the color volume and gamut. The TCL 5 and TCL 6 numbers are actually from the Samsung NU8000 and MU6300 respectively instead. The good values should be instead: TCL 6 Series (83.9%, 88.57%) and TCL 5 Series (72.5%, 90.13%). You can find the full table of measurements here: www.rtings.com/tv/tests/picture-quality/wide-color-gamut-rec-709-dci-p3-rec-2020 . Also, the annotations numbers of the TCL 5 Series shown in this video are instead of the Samsung MU6300. Our next video of the TCL 5 Series will have the correct numbers, and you can also see all of them in our review here: www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/5-series-2018-s517 .
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Rtings.com I'm interesting in buying a Sharp Smart TV LC-43Q7000U. I've searched for reviews. But, I haven't found any. Please, make a review of this TV
have you noticed your contrast AND LOCAL DIMMING - which 5 series lacks? - where in vid 5 series is much more uniform, much higher contrast and the least cloudy and least light bloom around the square by far. Are we sure your 5 and 6 aren't reversed in video for those? One buys local dimming to eliminate what the 6 is showing horribly.
Joel Moreno, I certainly hope you didn't buy a TCL. Garbage products, complete garbage.
I've had this tv for 3 years now and the picture quality is really good. The only issue we sometimes experience is that the tv will occasionally turn off by itself. This usually happens 4-5 times a week. We never took the tv in to get it looked at, because we didn't want to not have a tv for a period of time. 4K movies look great, which is why we bought it.
Good video, great job guys, I showed how you can invert the legs in my review but people still think it doesn't really work, maybe now they can be sure it works.
Slava Aliev yes hes the one with the best buy videos
I back you up 😉
90sG@mer Hi, turn off, I think its called action smoothing, to get rid of SOE.
Hello Joelster G4K. Since you have used the legs inverted, what is the minimum width size table this TV can *_SAFELY_* be placed on with inverted legs? Thank you.
Gergel70 The TV stand measures 28.5" with legs inverted, so anything larger than 30" width should be fine.
You can see my review here.
ua-cam.com/video/QMRjiNn2RuA/v-deo.html
You cannot forget about the Dolby vision support on the 6 series
Finally i been dying to see your riview for this tv, THANK YOU!
Im so glad I found rtings.com, I have only seen such in depth reviews for pc monitors.
Got my 55" 5 days ago and love it so far.Color is great
Been waiting for this guys, glad the video is up. Good stuff.
Still have this TV in the 75 size and it's a monster. It even is better now with all of the firmware updates it's received in the past 4 years or so. One thing I can say it's very bright with the right picture settings.
The one video I've been waiting for this TV.
Thanks! Best and most comprehensive review I have seen on these models.
Good review! I was all set to buy the P series on the strength of my BIL’s research and experience. Then just as I was going to pull the trigger I figured I’d make s google and sure enough, the 6 series was about to drop. So I waited a month or so and ordered our 55R617 on 4.26. I guess I got lucky as it arrived via prime on 4.30 with no QC or picture issues. A few adjustment to factory settings based on Joelster, TechnoDad and CNET did resolve some haloing and dirty screen effect that had me worried. Google “CNET TCL 6 series settings for a quick take. I’m a happy camper this far.
Did you get the dirty gray screen?
how the hell does this site only have 100k subs???????????????????
I ended up picking up the 65 inch TCL6 series at Best Buy on Black Friday weekend. I have very small uniformity issues. Looks like a faint checkerboard (might not be using a big enough diffuser between the backlight) more apparent on a bright white surface, but in movies, games, daily use, I never notice it, I could not be happier with my purchase! Amazing black levels, and astonishing highlights! Very good Peak brightness!
How much $$$ was it on black friday
@@alexfernandez8083 $899 ($70 off)
@@JamesHryb thanks👍
Thank you for the review i was going to buy the Sony X900E but decided to go with the TCL 65R615 Best Buy model of the 65R617. Save a few hounded bucks and get a few more inches as well.
I gotta look into this tcl brand all i see is amazing reviews about these TVs the last few years
this was a awesome TV for the year it was released. it's even better with the firmware updates it's received recently.
Glad you're happy with it!
@@RTINGSdotcom yes it's true if someone buys a tv and they are happy with the TV then that should be what matters most of all We all would love to have the perfect tv but if a TV gives me 90 percent of what I'm expecting then I'm satisfied.
Great videos guys , probably the only one i really listen too
I love this TV, my only regret is that I didn't buy the 65" version. It was $400 more but I could have afford it.
The TCL R615 series is the Best Buy version.
"If you don't care about the voice remote, Best Buy's 615 series is a bit cheaper. It comes with a standard remote without voice search and uses infrared (IR) technology so you have to aim it at the TV."
Basically if you don't care about voice functions go with the R615 at Best Buy for about $30 cheaper.
One negative is you must have line of sight for the 615 to pick up the remote. The 617 can be aimed anywhere and the tv will still pick it up. Just something to keep in mind.
I don't even know why people care about the remote.... I only use my cable box remote to control the Tv, inputs and soundbar sound.
Been waiting for this video. Can’t wait for the Vizio P series review too
I hope your guys channel and website pick up a lot more with all these reviews. Theyre really good and informative. Unbiased to what i can tell as well which is great
Just purchased the 65" for $700 and it exceeds my expectations. Can get very bright, local dimming is better than I expected, probably better then some TV demos I've seen at Best buy. Kind of wish they had the 6 series on display in store, but I know PC Richard's does.
Agreed. I just picked up the 55R617 for just over $500 and the picture is outstanding. I also had to actually turn the brightness down out of the box, but the contrast and color depth is superb. I have not seen any recent TV's that can compete with TCL's performance and features for the price points of their 5- or 6-series models at the same value per dollar.
@@Fister_of_Muppets But now a tiny part of me is annoyed that there's a new version just announced. I mean the one we have is great, but if I knew a new one would've been announced I would've held off of buying.
@@mistamaog Same, I just bought mine 2 weeks ago. 55in r615, the picture is outstanding and I have no screen issues. But, the new r625 has qled and if it's anything like this one will be amazing. But I'm still very happy, went with a Samsung 7 series but kept dropping internet connection. Found out that's a big problem with Samsung TVs. Hooked the tcl up and holy cow, I noticed the picture was immediately way sharper and brighter than the Samsung. Then found out about Dolby vision and dang, even regular HD TV shows are better on the tcl. Samsung doesn't even offer Dolby vision on their TVs.
@wannabchomsky Yeah, it's still working perfectly and we watch a lot of TV. The reviews I've read on the r625 have not been as good as when the r615 came out. But I hear the 8 series is outstanding. Thanks for the reply, always feels good to hear you made a good decision.
@wannabchomsky I never buy the warranties, except on some of my pc parts from microcenter. I haven't had a single issue with my 615 and it's going on a year, the picture really is top notch for the price. If you want to get the extra protection I don't blame you, peace of mind is nice. It is definitely a quality TV, way better than the Samsung that was equally as expensive. I'm glad I bought it. I've watched a lot of TV on it, the sound isn't the best but that's not a big deal, I have a surround sound setup.
These reviews are impressive. Good work!
I just bought the TCL 55r615 and this tv is beyond awesome in picture quality. I have the 65x900f, 75z9f and the tcl guys. The TCL has the sharpest and clearest picture of the 3. It’s 60 hertz but is just as smooth as a 120 hertz compared two my two SONY TVs. At 449.99 it can’t be beat.
I got a nice uniform panel which is great since I bought online. I also inverted the legs and it still sits quite stable though I always have a strap to the wall here in earthquake country. No negatives from me, I think it was a good choice for the money and imo looks as good as some tv's that cost 1 - 1.2k dollars.
I just bought the 65 inch version brand new for $500 at bestbuy and I think it's really good for the price I paid. I also won the panel lottery thank God.
How do you like it?
@@ajt4477 I really like it! It's not perfect but for what I paid for it I couldn't be happier
Might giving feedback 7 months later? Still kickin'?
@@Adambiguous2 I'm still loving it! It's holding up quite well.
I won the panel lottery
austin rodriguez you didn't get any vertical banding or Dirty Screen Effect?
Mace nope, all green lights . And if there is any DSE it's bearly visible
Lol
Same here!
how did you do it? Where did you buy it?
Literally the only negative about this TV is DSE. I use the 6-Series for my Xbox One X and it’s hardly noticeable in video games, but is slightly more noticeable in TV and movies. It’s still a great deal though.
Finally a true budget TV for everyone to adopt 4k platform.
Martin86 Chitembo depend of coumtry here in argentina p series cost only 50 dolar less than lg b7
gonzalo perez wow,that is very expensive then.maybe it is last year's oled TVs?
Wow that's way over charge for the tcl in your country. You talk about a dealers mark up.
Not buying a new TV until HDMI 2.1 is released and variable refresh rate is fully implemented on 120Hz panels. But in the mean time I got a very cheap TCL (S405) and it's working amazingly well for the price. So if they can offer something good in the 49" size in a couple of years from now then I'll give it a try, otherwise I'm getting a Sony.
I picked one up a couple weeks ago and managed to get a good one. It's definitely worth the money if you don't have the issues.
I went with the Vizip P65-F1 ($900) mainly for the 120hz panel. The TCL 65R615 ($900) was a close second. I also considered the Sony 65X900F ($1500) and the Vizio PQ65-F1 ($1500). The Vizio PQ6-F1 was also a close second with the top notch high peak luminance and improved anti-reflection filter. The Sony has the best anti-reflection filter of all and a top notch anti reflection filter cannot be underestimated in importance...black levels are destroyed by reflections in lighted rooms...so in many situations the Sony will have superior black levels to these others, next the Vizio PQ65-F1, then the Vizio P65-F1, and then the TCL 65R615...although they are all better than average.
EscapeVelo the Vizio P65 and TCL 65R615 are my final 2 choices. I have the Vizio slightly above the TCL. What is your opinion on the Vizio P65, glad you chose that one? Any complaints yet? Thanks
@@5MinuteSuppReviews Either one would be a good choice. They both have low input lag. They both have uniformity issues. The Vizio apps kindof suck. The Roku platform is much better but you can hook up a streaming device to the Vizio so that's not really an issue.
At 55" Id choose the TCL 6 Series for more Dimming Zones, at 65" the Vizio is a bit better with motion with the 120Hz panel.
Cant go wrong either way.
EscapeVelo thanks for the quick reply and feedback. I appreciate it. I saw both in the store and I liked the Vizio a smidge more. Gonna wait and see during December which has a better deal. Thanks again!!
Damn, you guys are on point with your reviews.
My 65 inch 6 series works great. People say it's not bright enough. I find myself squinting on some scenes.
Only thing I notice is on black background with viewing credits there is white bloom around lettering to the zones like mentioned. Otherwise the t.v. is quite amazing for gaming
I'm trying my luck with the TCL 6 series 65 Inches. Finger crossed to avoid vertical bands
Let us know how you find it!
Did you get it
How did it go!!!
Getting this TV soon, really hoping that I get a good panel. I'm pretty stoked about it.
I bought the 6 series to replace my 900e and save over the 900f. No regrets as I use it specifically for gaming
Great video. Wish there would have been more comparisons between the p607/605 since its closer than the 5 series. But from what I have seen, I am glad I have the P605. The grey uniformity is even worse on the 6 series. While I notice the Dirty Screen Effect about 20% of my total viewing experience, it's only on scenes that are one solid color or big sky scenes that move otherwise you don't notice it at all with most viewing. The input lag is also better on the the P series which is a plus for me. As for HDR/DV content, it's plenty bright. I run full brightness on SDR content so I am used to the whole screen being bright and I think most people are. What a lot of people don't understand is that the brightness is controlled by the meta data of the movie. Even full brightness may seem dark, but it's what the director intended and I am getting used to it more and more with each HDR/DV show/movie I watch.
Satisfied as it works great with the PS4 and didn't break the bank
Is it HDR Compatible as well?
Erik Borrego dumb question mom
lot of reviews on amazon about banding and dark corners scared to buy
UNREAL REVIEW.
Best online reviews you guys are true pro
Looking forward to receiving my 65" 65r617
thank you guys.
Great review... Don't stop
Review is spot on. My 55R613 (Costco version) has slight dirty panels. For $400, it's far cheaper than Sony which has a better viewing angle. For spare room, this TV is fine. For critical viewing, OLED is the way to go but it's at least $2,000. My last TV was a 50" plasma but the TCL is so much brighter and is $1,000 cheaper. I also checked out the 2019 QLED model but did not think TCL's implementation of QLED technology improving much on contrast, just a marketing term.
Pick your own poison.
Where'd you find one for $400?
@@UnArmedFilms4U last year in Costco before BB. The tariff had raised the prices for most imports. For the money, I would buy again but you need to ensure the panels are good, w/o noise/dirty image betwen the panels. Next upgrade would be OLED to improve the viewing angles and contrast. GL.
I just bought one today I’ll give a review in about a week
That's a long week!
Super long week... how about a 1 year review
What kind of TV stand is that? Looks cheap, wide, and sturdy. Exactly what I need.
I’m going to wait for the Vizio P Quantum to release for reasons below:
1) The time between TVs should give TCL some room for a firmware update to make any improvements necessary.
2) The time between can also mean TCL will release more quality sets, thus lessening my chances for the dirty screen effect.
3) I am a “soap opera effect” fan when it comes to movies and shows, and a native 240Hz refresh rate is what sold me on my current Vizio TV (I tested this feature in Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers using “The Battle For Helm’s Deep” battle scene; I was won over). I’m not going to dismiss the TCL 6 TVs yet as I have not seen their MoInt in action yet. I am aware the native refresh rate is 60Hz.
4)I want to see what the input lag is going to be on the P Quantum as I do serious gaming.
In the end, one of these TVs will decide how I join the 4K HDR era. Better start putting money aside, I guess. Man...first world problems indeed...
Eric DiDomenico I currently have a 65 inch 1080p plasma. I want to enjoy 4K. My choices right now are 75 inch Vizio E series or tcl 65 inch 6 series. What do u think ?
Arnold Nathan You should first decide which screen size is what fits best for the room. Honestly, I feel the TCL would be a better option. That’s just by the specs alone. But I haven’t used it so I can’t comment too much on it. Compare the specs of both TVs, but I prefer the specs of TCL right now.
If you use Roku or do a lot of streaming, then TCL would be a better choice, especially if you’re a cord cutter and you stream a lot of channels.
phenomenal review
Good review. It's a fair review but it can't be understated that there's a strong chance of getting a bad panel. If you get a good panel, then this review applies. I bought the R615 65 inch and occasionally notice significant corner shadows, so am thinking about returning it and getting a Samsung NU8000 for about $200 more. I wanted a Samsung QLED but it's a little outside my price range. I feel that Samsung and other big names have better quality control as well as panel uniformity (as mentioned in this video). Thoughts?
Don't purchase TCL tvs. The 43S517 I bought from the amazon didn't last 9 months. Just purchase another brand like Samsung, LG or Sony
Is it 120hz
I really like this TV. I had the Best But version (R615) and the P605 too. Is better than last year. For the price, there's no competition. I thought that Vizio will be greater competition to TCL but not this year.
Freddie Morales how do u know for sure if there lineups haven't dropped yet?
SLIM 910 on paper, there's no big upgrade.
SLIM 910 check the specs for the M55.....www.cnet.com/news/vizio-2018-m-series-p-series-tvs-do-local-dimming-for-less/
this may help me to buy 4k smat tv. tnx.
right about the viewing angle anything beyond say 10-12 degrees and the color fades ..but from front it is great
Great review!
I just bought one of these and returned it the next day. It did have horrible dirty screen effect, it wasn't as bad when watching tv/movies, but became unbearable when playing games. Also I was not that impressed with the picture quality over my 5 year old Samsung f5500 plasma, which was a mid range plasma when it came out, even on HDR/Dolby vision content, but imo way better than any lcd still. The blooming on the TCL was annoying too, not sure if i'll ever get used to local dimming, I think Id prefer an LCD without it. I think I'm going to save for an Oled, it's the only thing that is an upgrade from plasma, except maybe the Samsung Q9f that looks amazing but its way too expensive.
Thank you for showing us the hockey game in this one, I wish more of the videos had that. I'm trying to find the right- hockey tv. And this one- doesn't appear to be it.
Is the drag in the hockey game a result of the dirty screen effect?
I know you have the top 10 TVs article for sport, but what are suggestions for a $500 budget or so?
I'm looking at the Vizio M558-G1, and maybe something from Samsung like the Q7R...
Any good recommendations out there for hockey or general sports?
I just got this and I am relatively happy with it, but there are issues with movement blurring and artifacting. All TVs are going to have some issues though and for the price, it's a very nice TV.
I think you guys should put the real-time sound quality tests on future videos,just like your headphones and earphones reviews vids.
TheXGamer Check out my review, I included the audio test as well.
ua-cam.com/video/QMRjiNn2RuA/v-deo.html
I'd love to see a review on the TCL x4 65" QLED (and/or 55"), do you guys plan on doing one?
As someone who sells TV's, there is very little to no information about this panel out there aside from the standard manufacturer specs and typical training videos. I've messed around with the panel in store and it holds up pretty well, but I can't do comprehensive testing like you guys can.
From what I saw of CES though, it looks as though TCL are pulling out the big boy gloves and jumping into the fray with Samsung and LG. So it'll be interesting to see how well they hold up against other QLED's for the much cheaper price tag.
Just bought the 65” 65R615
Does anyone know what’s the difference of the 55R613 from Costco?
You guys gunna do a review of the Hisense short throw projector tv?
You need to test the 65" version. Uniformity is worse than on the 55" model. Corner vignetting also wasn't mentioned here and can be quite significant.
i have had my 6 Series tv for a few weeks, and initially there was some uniformity issues, but after a few days of using the tv only thing i see is in the corners a little darkness, rest of the screen has really leveled out very nicely for me
i have no complaints or problems so far with my tv, i use netflix, plex and ps4 pro and have my PC hooked to it as well
i use yamaha sound bar so i can't speak to the speaker quality on the tv
You just need to tone down the color down to 35 for better skin tone. I actually match oled skin tone to my tcl 6 series. The only thing it cant match oled is the contrast and blooming the rest are good and choose warm color instead of cool and normal
This was super informative. Thank you!
Curious... So the P series only allowed audio played on phones/tablets only if you use the tvs apps. Using an external input, it'd disable it entirely. Wonder if the 6 series fixes that.
Seems like a brighter, slightly bulkier tv than my 55p605. But! Roughly 7ms more input lag. Which, 17-20ms is still awesome. But 12ms on the p605 and a pc mouse, was almost an eye opening experience coming from 34ms.
Forgot one thing. The sound quality is not great. It's not bad but it's under powered. A sound system, sound bar or headphones is the best way to go.
on sale $399 at costco!
I loved this TV until it started giving me the flickering screen known issue, almost exactly 3 years after I purchased it. Very disappointing.
Wow talk about value for money
Chris Newton, it's cheap for a reason, garbage products, complete garbage. Don't buy one it will be a coat rack within a year.
Nickolas Schneider, I bought a new 55 inch, within 6 months it didn't work. They replaced it and within 8 months that one didn't work. At this point I can hang about 14 coats on it.
Nickolas Schneider average, 5-6 hrs a day. Yeah think it was backlight both times.
Nickolas Schneider, no problem.
Nickolas Schneider, wise choice. I'm sure you will get the satisfaction from the Samsung.
An excellently comprehensive and intelligible review, as always. However, the comment about the TCL 6 having a limited number of local dimming zones is curious, as the 55" panel has 96. What is your reference/standard for number of zones? I mean, the Vizio E-series has just 10 zones.
I believe the 65'' has 125 dimming zones. That seems like a pretty huge amount! I'm struggling to even think of how they could have that many "zones" on a mere 55'' or 65''! I have _no_ problems with my white mouse moving around on a black background. I have had a TV that did have that issue, but even then it was a rare situation.
Really like the TCL but wanting to see the New Vizio P comparison before I purchase one
Clouding due to the limit # of local dimming zones? The 6 series has a lot of local dimming zones, 🤔.
And the video of the dimming you've posted looks great so I'm even more confused.
This seems to be a trend where you are making these claims about the local dimming of the TCL 6 series compared to other models but when looking for proof to those statements they don't hold up.
Would love to hear an explanation.
True got the tcl 6 and the local dimming is really good compare to x950 and x900f this tv got 96 zones on 55 and 120 on 65 inch. Compared both sony x900f vs tcl6 om blooming tcl 6 wins by miles.
got the 6 series tv for my bd. not dissappointed at all.
On May 9, 2018, tech writer Will Greenwald at PCMag.com gave this model a favorable review, but he did point out that it definitely wasn't energy efficient. Also, on May 19, 2018, tech writer Nick Pino at TechRadar.com mentioned that this model likes to be viewed in a dimly lit room. Put it in a brightly lit room and it will disappoint, he said.
I considered this model until I saw complaints about dirty screen effect, or vertical bands on picture where its all one color, . ie: blue sky, hockey rink, etc.
lol I'm saddened to learn spending $ 800.00-1,000 is still considered a Budget Tv . I'll just sit here and enjoy my Aldi's mac n cheese and watch all you fancy wealthy people out there .
On sale at walmart for $629 right now!
Get a better job
Its budget high end. Competing against $2,100 models from Samsung..
and 65 friggen inches. The truely budget minded don't need a tv as big as they are.
James Hryb and LG OLED. I’m looking at this one because its not badly price. I can’t afford a OLED or qled. It’s either TCl or Vizio
I bought a vizio p series and and tcl 6 series. I have no idea why you guys recommended the p series over the 6. the colors are so dead in comparison. The only good thing is the 120 hz motion handled sports better. Everything else including hdr and dolby shines on the tcl vs the vizio p.
I have the rainbow effect on my TCL P605. What would be this cause of this? Ive noticed it since day 1. Reminded me exactly of the DLP rainbow effect.
Haha I order yesterday LG OLED C7P 55inch for 1200$! Can't wait!
So... what’s the difference between the R615 and R617 models?
Great video and a great deal on
keep those TCL videos and SONY video coming
I heard the 65 inch model has better specs. More local dimming if Im not mistaken.
Wish I could tell you your right here... But I pre-ordered my TV from Amazon in April... And I still haven't received it yet...
Is this TV available in Europe? Because I can't find it on my Amazon
This screen looks great. Dayum theres nothing like this in the uk for price/quality :(
SpontaneousWeasel TCL DP648 are selling on Amazon
Juhal Ahmed how good is the DP series?
Afura33 I just brought one from amazon 400£ 50” UK
I gonna buy it today 😊
Hi Danial, I would like to buy the TCL series 6 R617 in Canada. Is this possible ? Also is this TV in Canada the same model number ? What stores can I buy it from. Thank you.
anyone got any inside news of WHEN will TCL be getting more shipments for Amazon orders?
June 25th
Do a comparison between the TCL and the Hisense H9E Plus that just dropped at best buy
you cant listen to "whatever is on the tv" in the app, only onboard roku apps. no inputs can send audio through the app.
If you have the official Roku app, you can absolutely listen to whatever is on the TV through your phone. It's also possible if you have a Roku remote control with a 3.5mm headphone jack.
Do you think the TCL6 or the Samsung Q6FN is better and why?
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Lol 🤣 He done a review on this tv capture card fucking Country Bumpkin 😂🤣🤣🤣
Yep. His fucking videos are trash. I wish I could hide them from UA-cam.