The Decline Of Torrents...What Happened?

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  • Опубліковано 10 лис 2024

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  • @LogicallyAnswered
    @LogicallyAnswered  Місяць тому +27

    Graph showcasing 98% decline in interest for Torrents globally since 2004:
    trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=torrents&hl=en

    • @sebastianruedac
      @sebastianruedac Місяць тому +11

      Graph By Google, LOL, go check the traffic on the main non Russian torrent site, then go check traffic on Russian and Chinese t. sites where Google has no way of getting data... and the as usual erase my comments.

    • @sebastianruedac
      @sebastianruedac Місяць тому

      Besides that Graph is about the searches made for the world "Torrent" on Google search engine...

    • @bumblebeegamerreal
      @bumblebeegamerreal Місяць тому

      What about Qbittorent: trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=%2Fm%2F0f9ypn&hl=en
      It looks like its increasing despite being a torrent

    • @bumblebeegamerreal
      @bumblebeegamerreal Місяць тому +8

      What about Qbittorent? I checked the Google trends and it just keeps increasing. It shows a 96% increase globally since 2004.

    • @jblasutavario9549
      @jblasutavario9549 Місяць тому +1

      @@LogicallyAnswered Conflating a decline in Google search for 'torrents' with a decline in torrent activity is ridiculous 🤣🤣🤣 This is just a lame attempt to hold your position after the backlash in the comments. Not logical

  • @user-pe8ir4iy1e
    @user-pe8ir4iy1e Місяць тому +2242

    Letting everyone believe torrenting is dead is exactly the narrative we need to push to keep it alive.

    • @littledudefromacrossthestr5755
      @littledudefromacrossthestr5755 Місяць тому +58

      Fr 💀

    • @lucaskp16
      @lucaskp16 Місяць тому +1

      yep i still to this day torrent everything I watch or play. even paying for netlix and disney+ I still torrent the shows and movie in there because their bitrate is horrible compared to the bluray version.
      only buy indie games. and donate 15 USD between a couple pirate sites.

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn Місяць тому +62

      I mean the biggest barrier people face to doing it now is finding safe places to get them from. I don't see how convincing folk it's over is going to help that. And if fewer people do it, there's less seeders and so it's worse for those still doing it.

    • @platinumplayer930
      @platinumplayer930 Місяць тому +42

      Yeah, Piracy is dead, too, so Big Corp should stop suing people :(

    • @yonishachar1887
      @yonishachar1887 Місяць тому +1

      @@littledudefromacrossthestr5755 Can you please explain?

  • @TheRizalp
    @TheRizalp Місяць тому +621

    I still prefer torrenting instead of streaming subscriptions, mainly for offline viewing and archiving

    • @AnonymousAccount514
      @AnonymousAccount514 Місяць тому +5

      nah...the A/V quality is better with the steaming services...but yes, it still has its place

    • @zszyTW
      @zszyTW Місяць тому

      @@AnonymousAccount514 I use it for AV, but the A/V of the AV is most commonly 720 which is not that great A/V for AV.

    • @redriver25
      @redriver25 Місяць тому +70

      That’s insane the audio and video quality of torrents is massively better. I have gigabit internet but torrents still have much higher quality. That along with offline viewing (mkv/mp4) are two of the largest reasons why I like torrents.

    • @miguelclarkeottovonclarke
      @miguelclarkeottovonclarke Місяць тому

      Let me guess, you were born in the 80s?

    • @firestormjupiter
      @firestormjupiter Місяць тому +44

      A/V quality better huh?
      Netflix: arbitrary 1080p max on any device except for their proprietary app on a proprietary TV that collects your data by default, or a specific browser extension to make it 4K, and a constant internet connection. On top of a paid subscription.
      Torrenting and downloading: guaranteed 4K, no internet needed, view on any device.

  • @fredbloggs5902
    @fredbloggs5902 Місяць тому +618

    The loss of revenue figure was totally bogus because it assumed every copy was a lost sale. Before torrenting many people borrowed each other’s albums and manually copied them.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Місяць тому +71

      True

    • @kosmosXcannon
      @kosmosXcannon Місяць тому +35

      Not to mention that even if you didn't buy it. If you told someone that you liked said product, they may have bought it. Therefore it cost these companies nothing to get a sale that came because of you.

    • @kseyffert
      @kseyffert Місяць тому +25

      I agree. Many who pirate simply can not afford to buy. In many cases, those who can't afford, get together, pool the funds, buy o ne copy and copy it through the group. 7 lost sales? No! One sale that would otherwise never have happened.

    • @namenotfound2456
      @namenotfound2456 Місяць тому +8

      it's quite the easy narrative to push to uncaring/unknowing masses.
      It would be interesting seeing the ACTUAL data of how many people pirate a piece of media, to then later acquire it; those that do not; and those who simply pirate to find other means to access media they already pay for.

    • @brainthesizeofplanet
      @brainthesizeofplanet Місяць тому +2

      YES and we paid royalties on tape media and later HDDs and still they kept suing ppl
      The pure greed of the corporates drove BT and will soon lead to the fall of streaming - ppl will realize that paying 2 or 3 services without owning anything just isn't to...

  • @jaerockchalk3216
    @jaerockchalk3216 Місяць тому +667

    If buying isn't owning , Pirating isn't stealing . 🏴‍☠

    • @rapmastac1362
      @rapmastac1362 Місяць тому +60

      “You wouldn’t download a car..”. oh wait, I need to pay a $15 monthly fee to use my heated seat?

    • @R1v3rxb3ar
      @R1v3rxb3ar Місяць тому +8

      Ever more true every day

    • @juanarmslite
      @juanarmslite Місяць тому +3

      Even in Future, Yes.

    • @mitkoogrozev
      @mitkoogrozev Місяць тому +5

      @@rapmastac1362 I remember that commercial. My DVD copy of Alien vs Predator started with it. And I'm now thinking ''WHAT? If I could download a car, I would definitely do it!"

    • @Nekotaku_TV
      @Nekotaku_TV Місяць тому +2

      It never was since it's copying.

  • @FyresGames
    @FyresGames Місяць тому +133

    Torrenting is still a must for programs where the companies doesn't allow you to buy a lifetime license. Adobe is a good example.

    • @dahawk8574
      @dahawk8574 Місяць тому +8

      Even 'lifetime' is a fleecing of consumers. If you buy something, you should own it. And it becomes part of your estate. After you die, your property becomes something you give to those you've named.
      See Bruce Willis. An extremely wealthy owner of digital content who fought as a matter of principle.

    • @speedeespeedboi9527
      @speedeespeedboi9527 Місяць тому

      Like filmora!

    • @juanarmslite
      @juanarmslite Місяць тому +1

      Lifetime more like 1 - 2 years until expire

  • @MartinezMKD1
    @MartinezMKD1 Місяць тому +706

    I'm eastern european and I wholeheartedly disagree. Torrenting is alive and going strong over here.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Місяць тому +55

      Ah, interesting

    • @hansolowe19
      @hansolowe19 Місяць тому +81

      Western European here, still got my pirate bay.

    • @Yuumiiiiiiiii
      @Yuumiiiiiiiii Місяць тому +8

      same😂

    • @AndreiPaul14
      @AndreiPaul14 Місяць тому +21

      East European here, torrenting is going strong for movies, tv series and all cracked games including Space Marines 2.
      That game was on torrent site since early access. I played that game pirated first even though I pre-purchased that game.

    • @NoNsToPxs
      @NoNsToPxs Місяць тому +29

      yeah, because 70% shows are blocked on netflix and other stream services, and you need to use vpn... makes it easier just to get torrent for some

  • @ghb323
    @ghb323 Місяць тому +252

    the enshitification of streaming services also contributed to why streaming the high seas are rising.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Місяць тому +13

      True

    • @ghb323
      @ghb323 Місяць тому +11

      @@LogicallyAnswered Lack of availability like exclusive countries is another.

    • @CGoody564
      @CGoody564 Місяць тому +5

      ​@@ghb323 a lot of people just use VPN's to get around that. But the idea that torrenting is dead is entirely absurd click bait

    • @ghb323
      @ghb323 Місяць тому +3

      @@CGoody564 I can agree, on both. About the clickbaty stuff; what if pirates simply avoid google to find “treasures under the sea”? That maybe the reason why google searches to find such treasure is declining. Because google teamed up with “police boats” and war vessels, they would take down “sea maps” directing to those “treasures”.

    • @namenotfound2456
      @namenotfound2456 Місяць тому +2

      one big issue is paying for 1080p or even 4K and getting at best 720p, just because you are not using a closed system like a Smart TV

  • @AK47-666
    @AK47-666 Місяць тому +89

    Who else is torrenting and watching this video simultaneously??

    • @d3vilman69
      @d3vilman69 Місяць тому

      Me! Seeding some of the anime I dloaded from Nyaa torrent site! ^_^

    • @Reklaimart
      @Reklaimart Місяць тому +13

      I torrented this video just so I could

    • @seanryan1606
      @seanryan1606 Місяць тому

      m literlly using fitgirl to torrent ragnarok right now

    • @mdabdulbashir4215
      @mdabdulbashir4215 14 днів тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @DannyK1992
    @DannyK1992 Місяць тому +267

    Torrenting is gone only in western countries that care about copyright law and sue people who violate it
    It’s very much alive in Eastern Europe and other developing countries that have bigger problems than copyright laws

    • @GeneralMalice-b5g
      @GeneralMalice-b5g Місяць тому +10

      This statement makes more sense

    • @jaerockchalk3216
      @jaerockchalk3216 Місяць тому +20

      ive been using it since napster days , no vpn and im yet to get sued . /shrug . Canada

    • @dpounder101
      @dpounder101 Місяць тому

      @@jaerockchalk3216 same. i buy stuff when its worth it and/or the marketing was honest though.

    • @Stealth86651
      @Stealth86651 Місяць тому

      But it's not gone at all in western countries, it's going stronger than ever if anything. Reality is just that there's cheap and easy methods to hide yourself online now so a lot of reporting companies have trouble ascertaining how many people are actually torrenting.

    • @kysputnikable
      @kysputnikable Місяць тому

      Very well alive in South East Asia too

  • @daki025
    @daki025 Місяць тому +105

    When Netflix showed up then people found it easier to just pay a bit and have a huge library of content. Now we have a bunch of streaming services and they keep getting more expansive. So the cost of streaming has gone up significantly. Also the quality of movies and TV shows has dropped, which makes it even less likely that someone is willing to pay for it. For these reasons i think that torreting is going up again.

    • @sergiovr3
      @sergiovr3 Місяць тому +8

      this. Streaming services are treating us like fools they can milk forever even when the service they provide only gets worse with time.

    • @freelancerthe2561
      @freelancerthe2561 Місяць тому

      @@sergiovr3 Executives of Streaming Services. I'm even sure the production side of these companies legitimately want to put out something people would watch. But they're not the ones giving people the green light. That comes from up on high. At the start up on high didn't care, so they just green lit anything. "Content is content".

    • @steven7488
      @steven7488 Місяць тому +2

      Sadly, most Gen Z nowadays don't even know torrenting existed

    • @Stealth86651
      @Stealth86651 Місяць тому +2

      Yep, personally was happy to stop torrenting when streaming first came out. Then they enshitified it and now I'm back sailing again because it's simply easier, faster, more reliable, cheaper and I get a much better library.

    • @guydreamr
      @guydreamr Місяць тому

      Agreed on the issue of streaming services but the quality of movies and especially TV series are better than ever.

  • @sebastianruedac
    @sebastianruedac Місяць тому +382

    Dude, torrenting is pretty much still alive...

    • @jblasutavario9549
      @jblasutavario9549 Місяць тому +55

      Agreed. This video isn't well researched.

    • @freelancerthe2561
      @freelancerthe2561 Місяць тому

      @@jblasutavario9549 But to know that he'd have to go (gasp) the dark web (dramatic sting)!!!

    • @hampus23
      @hampus23 Місяць тому

      @@jblasutavario9549 His videos is usually well researched, but I agree, this one is not.

    • @jellyface401
      @jellyface401 Місяць тому +19

      But is not in its prime.

    • @jblasutavario9549
      @jblasutavario9549 Місяць тому +27

      @jellyface401 Come on now. Of course it's not in its prime, but the title says how 'How torrenting lost 98% of its users'...
      Seriously, does that sound 'logical' to you?

  • @ashishpatel350
    @ashishpatel350 Місяць тому +142

    Make torrenting great again

  • @p.m.8316
    @p.m.8316 Місяць тому +279

    torrents are very alive

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Місяць тому +20

      Not according to Google trends. Maybe in some more communities though.

    • @anoying
      @anoying Місяць тому

      @@LogicallyAnswered people usually don't use google to torrent since most of the sites are blocked or don't index properly. Yandex search is a more popular choice. I heard that from a friend, I would never torrent myself and I never lie.

    • @p.m.8316
      @p.m.8316 Місяць тому

      @@LogicallyAnswered probably less than in the past. but many torrent sites have millions of visitors per month.

    • @DJAdalaide
      @DJAdalaide Місяць тому +127

      @@LogicallyAnswered Pirates don't use google lol

    • @bpavuk
      @bpavuk Місяць тому

      @@LogicallyAnswered Bing and Reddit just suit better for search. plus, there are also dedicated search engines for pirated games and movies

  • @yuval6091
    @yuval6091 Місяць тому +115

    As Gabe Newell said before; "Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable.".
    People spend thousands on PCs, hundreds on storage, yet they choose to torrent the game or a movie and watch in on Plex or Jellyfin. They clearly have the money to spend, but why would they? Why would I want a shittier product (slower because of DRM, eligible for removing because of weird copyright bullshit) when I can have it better with a few simple clicks?
    Fuck big companies, viva la piracy.

    • @SohanaHaider
      @SohanaHaider Місяць тому +4

      Very well said. Perfectly described everything I am feeling.

    • @yarikachi
      @yarikachi Місяць тому +4

      Gabe Newell never visited 3rd world country when buying games legally is impossible

    • @RealityCheck6969
      @RealityCheck6969 Місяць тому +5

      For me it’s a pricing problem. The minimum wage in my country if $450. If you have a $600 salary, you are well paid. Do you think we could afford a $60-$100 game? 0_o

    • @mrmiffmiff
      @mrmiffmiff Місяць тому +2

      @@RealityCheck6969 That's why regional pricing is so important but not enough developers use it because they don't really care.

    • @georgejones3526
      @georgejones3526 Місяць тому

      I also use KODI to watch videos on my pc which is connected to my 65 inch tv.

  • @elymanic3497
    @elymanic3497 Місяць тому +66

    Torrent is coming back with the prices

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Місяць тому +2

      Maybe

    • @lucaskp16
      @lucaskp16 Місяць тому

      @@LogicallyAnswered it never went out just moved away from the front page of the internet. reddit piracy site has 700k users and there is many many more popular sites and forums for it.

    • @lordzed83
      @lordzed83 Місяць тому

      @@LogicallyAnswered it never left

    • @ridwanhossainabid8613
      @ridwanhossainabid8613 Місяць тому +1

      especially how much the essential software's cost. It's absurdly high. You can't even buy a lifetime license i.e. Adobe softwares.

  • @Shermos
    @Shermos Місяць тому +32

    Torrenting is very much still alive the world over, and I think it's making a comeback in the West as well. Streaming services have increased in number, and unless subscribers are prepared to pay a premium, they get ads forced on them too. Torrenting is making a comeback if anything.

    • @SyntaxWyntax
      @SyntaxWyntax Місяць тому

      Why download shows tho u can just stream it on one of those sites lol never understood the point of downloading showa

    • @cr4yv3n
      @cr4yv3n Місяць тому

      Any sources? I have been using the ancient TPB but nothing new is on the horizon or i am super out of the loop here

    • @Davisimo69
      @Davisimo69 Місяць тому

      ​@cr4yv3n FED - piratebay is like my first torrent lol

    • @lunator100hd
      @lunator100hd Місяць тому

      r/Piracy

    • @BadVoodo0
      @BadVoodo0 Місяць тому

      @@cr4yv3n mate this is a very easy to look up. spotify / youtube has every song you could ever want, googling "watch X movie free online" for 15 mins will pop up a browser for any movie streaming service you could ever want. The pirate bay even has Space Marine 2 which just came out and if you read the comments and look up how many seeders they are you'll find the game that actually works

  • @harrybellingham98
    @harrybellingham98 Місяць тому +41

    Russia disagrees, also you missed games/software torrenting and focused way to much on music

    • @DacLMK
      @DacLMK Місяць тому +8

      So does Eastern Europe and the Balkan. Here in the Balkan a lot of people pirate stuff to this day, because most services are either still either unavailable due to "region locking" or have limited selections due to again "region locking", so piracy makes sense. Plus we aren't persecuted for piracy, only companies are. I have pirated for a long time, and haven't got in trouble for it.

  • @JoseJimenez-il5vs
    @JoseJimenez-il5vs Місяць тому +20

    You got it wrong. UA-cam and other streaming services have grown a lot in the last few years. Torrents are alive and kicking.

  • @ElMalito187
    @ElMalito187 Місяць тому +17

    There is no decline. Torrenting is actually getting bigger and faster. In fact you have websites advocating Torrenting. And if Google really wanted to they would've put a block on all aspects of Torrenting. I still torrent and so must you, it's pretty much second nature at this point.
    Cheers 🍻

  • @akshattamrakar9071
    @akshattamrakar9071 Місяць тому +23

    Im Indian,me and all my friends are using torrent more then ever

  • @TheKingOfInappropriateComments
    @TheKingOfInappropriateComments Місяць тому +21

    You will own nothing and you will like it.

  • @mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891
    @mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891 Місяць тому +22

    Living in a 3rd world country, in this current economy and era where almost everything requires internet and subscription, I'll teach my kids how to save money using torrent...

    • @marcinsobczak2485
      @marcinsobczak2485 Місяць тому

      I live in one of the ritchest countries in Europe and still can't afford to pay for that stuff. Although being 40yo I'm not a target for new music films or games so there is only 3-4 things a year I really want to download.

    • @greenleafyman1028
      @greenleafyman1028 Місяць тому +1

      Piracy is part of financial literacy.
      Change my mind.

  • @eyevou
    @eyevou Місяць тому +49

    Stopped watching after the phrase "potential revenue". I have a potential revenue of 100 trillion dollars but you don't see me crying.

    • @freelancerthe2561
      @freelancerthe2561 Місяць тому +5

      We on the internet (the one of that era) have come to call it "Copyright Math". And it got really funny when the industries started stealing from smaller artists and creators, and things like sales data (which these firms and businesses would have) can provide verifiable proof of "lost sales". So of course they weaseled they're out of it.
      Some of the best ones were the lawyers (which now basically just act on their own at this point), were threatening lawsuits against artists for music their clients had essentially sampled/influenced, or just outright stolen from; and using things like UA-cam Content ID to find victims.

    • @eyevou
      @eyevou Місяць тому

      @@freelancerthe2561 I have never heard of the term "Copyright Math" and I'm almost 40. :P
      Anyway, I find it extremely disingenuous to say you COULD have made X amount of money off people who clearly didn't think the amount you were charging was acceptable for the product. They literally argued that every download was a lost sale. In my eyes their lost "potential revenue" was exactly zero seeing as people who wanted the CDs would go out and buy them. RAA are the ones stealing from artists in the first damned place.

  • @lockout125
    @lockout125 Місяць тому +34

    Honestly miss this era. The Wild West internet was so much better and less regulated. How it should’ve stayed.

    • @johnathin0061892
      @johnathin0061892 Місяць тому

      Social media, with its censorship and control, has ruined the internet. The Internet was so much better 25 years ago.

    • @1sonyzz
      @1sonyzz Місяць тому +2

      and more free for people to express themselves, so many good comedy videos been on youtube in 2008-2012 time which are now not possible due to much regulated BS...

    • @loqutisborg5416
      @loqutisborg5416 Місяць тому +1

      I burned a CD of songs I down loaded from Napster and Lime wire. 20 years later I came across CD and put it my new(er) computer. Anti Virus lit up!!!!

    • @danieln6700
      @danieln6700 Місяць тому

      To much money in it. U used to connect to the net as a separate world. Now it's just everywhere

  • @Takatou__Yogiri
    @Takatou__Yogiri Місяць тому +89

    how many people are watching this video in free windows?

    • @pan2aja
      @pan2aja Місяць тому +4

      How many watched in free windows and dedicated torrenting machine ? 😅

    • @adidibrani
      @adidibrani Місяць тому

      massgrave - microsoft activation scripts ;)

    • @xr.spedtech
      @xr.spedtech Місяць тому +3

      I use linux big boss

    • @Takatou__Yogiri
      @Takatou__Yogiri Місяць тому

      @@xr.spedtech Linux users are legends. I wanted to use Linux. But I can play genshin impact on Linux. If it was possible I would be using Linux right now.

    • @davianoinglesias5030
      @davianoinglesias5030 Місяць тому +1

      😅 I'm watching it on free windows and a cracked version of UA-cam premium

  • @Andrii87
    @Andrii87 Місяць тому +53

    Halph of modern stuff would not be popular if not for pirating. Right Windows???

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Місяць тому +3

      Probably true

    • @sintaxera
      @sintaxera Місяць тому

      ​@LogicallyAnswered its the reason wi dows is practically free now. Companies pay for it, and half the people working there only know it because it comes bundled with most laptops.

    • @Snorlaxiian
      @Snorlaxiian Місяць тому +4

      I don't think Microsoft really cares if you pirate Windows. Of course they would never admit that on record. They care way more about your personal data that they mine than they do about you pirating Windows. IF you decide to pay, that's just a bonus to them.

    • @AleksandarBosakov
      @AleksandarBosakov Місяць тому +1

      @@Snorlaxiian I think he meant Windows XP

  • @BunnyKhatri-pd8zm
    @BunnyKhatri-pd8zm Місяць тому +12

    What are you talking about? we have more seeders than ever.

  • @bigalexg
    @bigalexg Місяць тому +19

    The rise of streaming services probably vastly increased internet traffic as a whole, thus the same amount of torrenting that went on before the streaming explosion would be a much smaller percentage of the whole. From where I sit torrenting is still quite popular! But let's pretend that you are correct and it's dead, we don't need the attention of the RIAA and MPAA. Direct download of pirated content is a thing too, and various un-official movie and TV show streaming sites, and newsgroups. You only covered torrenting, just one of several ways to pirate. It's true that the glory days of Napster are over but torrents are still very much alive and well. I suspect some of us built our music and movie collection up to near max and now just top it off occasionally.

  • @necuz
    @necuz Місяць тому +10

    Torrenting is bound to make a comeback now that the enshittification of the streaming services has begun.

  • @AlisSpark
    @AlisSpark Місяць тому +8

    guys please just shuddup and agree with the video, that narrative is perfect

  • @balpreetsingh6834
    @balpreetsingh6834 Місяць тому +30

    Proud torrenter still. Great video as always.

  • @cnordegren
    @cnordegren Місяць тому +7

    Torrenting is the reason why video decoding in smartphones is widely supported.

  • @truckermikemct1
    @truckermikemct1 Місяць тому +5

    Torrenting may have declined in the USA but it is alive and well in many parts of the world.

  • @PeleroK
    @PeleroK Місяць тому +16

    switzerland torrenting is litarly legal

    • @michaelfisher4737
      @michaelfisher4737 Місяць тому +4

      ummm yeah??? nothing about it has every been illegal, its the content being tormented thats that is relevant, not the protocol

    • @tamino3777
      @tamino3777 Місяць тому

      @@michaelfisher4737Legal in Switzerland 🇨🇭 as well.

  • @abhijitmandhare6567
    @abhijitmandhare6567 Місяць тому +35

    no views in 4 secs. bro fell off

  • @judewestburner
    @judewestburner Місяць тому +6

    I've never stopped torrent. I can see its use going up with the current state of subscription services

  • @xanhaxs
    @xanhaxs Місяць тому +22

    Its not over im pirating almost everything 😅

  • @rubenmoreira0
    @rubenmoreira0 Місяць тому +11

    Torrent is very much alive still

  • @CYLITM
    @CYLITM Місяць тому +4

    Now that everyone is saying how bad streaming and corporations are, piracy and torrenting is becoming a thing again.

  • @knaz7468
    @knaz7468 Місяць тому +4

    What bugs me is it is hard to actually BUY albums from artists now. Like ya know, to support them. With early iTunes and Google Play you could, but now artists rarely even put out digital albums. And you simply cannot find a way to buy/own it via something like Google Music. It's super annoying. I am certain the artists make damn near nothing from streaming services.

    • @endless_puns
      @endless_puns Місяць тому +1

      This! I still buy entire albums on iTunes (on Windows), then copy the files manually to back-up folder just so Apple doesn't get any weird ideas.

  • @jokerproduction
    @jokerproduction Місяць тому +4

    My 2 petabyte Jellyfin server says otherwise.

  • @sudd3660
    @sudd3660 Місяць тому +5

    torrenting use to be the place to get low quality files, now it is the place to get high quality files. things sure changed.

  • @Takatou__Yogiri
    @Takatou__Yogiri Місяць тому +20

    i'm 20. and i use pira ted apps, games, movies, anime, manga.

  • @stefanusunicorn7483
    @stefanusunicorn7483 Місяць тому +4

    *Me watching this video
    *Checking my 10 torrent downloads on my 2nd screen, each has hundreds of seeder.
    *Me smiling bashfully while closing this video tab.

  • @RoofusRoof19
    @RoofusRoof19 Місяць тому +6

    This video was sponsored by netflix

  • @LinuxLuddite
    @LinuxLuddite 15 днів тому +1

    If i buy a chair, i have the right to allow my friends and family to sit on it.

  • @rupanjan
    @rupanjan Місяць тому +6

    It works absolutely flawlessly here :) I think right people know where to look at and its nice that way.

  • @jmkariuki5863
    @jmkariuki5863 Місяць тому +2

    I to this day don't have a netflix, amazon, disney or spotify account.
    And guess what I'm up to date on all the movies, shows and music I want.
    Any guess how?
    While I don't think this video is wrong,
    I believe it is relevant to those in North America and Western Europe.
    The rest of the billions of people who don't live there still very readily use torrents to access entertainment.

  • @hilihkintil6789
    @hilihkintil6789 Місяць тому +13

    L take. People have been saying this since 2014 (at least that's when i'm aware). Truth is, backing up image files of a server and buying tons of domain is still cheap expenses compared to the ads revenue they generated.

  • @TheOtherGuy27
    @TheOtherGuy27 Місяць тому +2

    One phrase I've heard before that I very much believe in is think of pirates like your competitors. They're already offering the product for free which is a pretty strong draw. You have to offer something that competes with that which pretty much amounts to convenience and/or service while maintaining reasonable pricing. Sadly streaming services are forgetting these items and it's causing a resurgence in piracy.

  • @frankfurtrob866
    @frankfurtrob866 Місяць тому +3

    Back in the day people moving to Germany got a rude shock when they got letters demanding a payment of a 1000€ - legal firms (both demanding payment and defending users) made a killing g.

  • @H96-d6j
    @H96-d6j Місяць тому +2

    What organizations don't understand is that pirates are NOT going to buy your product, and that's why they pirate it.
    If you can create a business model where people can test the demo version and afford to buy the product much cheaper by purchasing in installments, this would solve a lot of the problem and PLUS it would enable companies to charge more.

  • @katycatjulius
    @katycatjulius Місяць тому +4

    Like Gabe Newel from Valve has said: “The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It’s by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates.”

  • @harryshuman9637
    @harryshuman9637 Місяць тому +2

    Torrents are alive bro, I seeded 16 terrabytes in the past 6 months alone.

    • @markotts
      @markotts Місяць тому

      And you are a hero for it 👍

    • @harryshuman9637
      @harryshuman9637 Місяць тому +1

      @@markotts Keeping that rarbg library going after it went down.

  • @Drakonus_
    @Drakonus_ Місяць тому +4

    This is just plain wrong, and let's keep it that way.

  • @shepard21
    @shepard21 Місяць тому +31

    very wrong. maybe in US it's declining, but in asia it's going very strong. it's so prevalent even my professor in top 5 university in my country suggested the class to go to lib*** or tpb or zlib to get textbooks.

    • @biedak
      @biedak Місяць тому +7

      based

    • @sprmn1983
      @sprmn1983 Місяць тому +2

      Shhhhhhh🤫

    • @redbuIIracing33
      @redbuIIracing33 Місяць тому +2

      Pirating itself is thriving. However, downloading directly from a server instead p2p is much faster and reliable than torrenting.

    • @qunas101
      @qunas101 Місяць тому

      @@redbuIIracing33 it really heavily depends on the server and the load. Most of the time, whether I am torrenting or downloading directly, I am limited by my own internet connection

    • @HotMudrs
      @HotMudrs Місяць тому

      I wouldn't say it's thriving in all of asia, I haven't met a single person who knows what a torrent is in korea. I can definitely find korean torrents but most are quite old or zero seeders always. If the economy is ok and there are plenty of convenient alternatives most piracy will decline. Meanwhile I never see textbooks on torrent sites, but they are found on other sites. Yandex is very useful for searching for those sites sometimes- because google is junk.

  • @doodskie999
    @doodskie999 Місяць тому +4

    Lol wtf are you saying torrenting is dead? It actually grew tenfolds. Just visit any torrent site and the average seeders are in the 2000's. You would be lucky to get 100 seeders way back in the 2000's, 😂

  • @MaleRainbowAction
    @MaleRainbowAction Місяць тому +2

    One place torrenting is always ethical: Adobe products.

  • @spikerlj
    @spikerlj Місяць тому +2

    Torrenting has gone underground. It's still better than streaming. Getting every streaming service is too expensive. And now that you don't own what you buy, pirate life for me

  • @alap1983
    @alap1983 Місяць тому +2

    "Legal method is easier and reasonably priced." This logic no longer holds any validity. There are several streaming platforms. Hence content is spread out thinly.
    The prices too are no longer "reasonable". If you account for the number of subscriptions, it becomes prohibitively expensive.
    Third, Consumers NO LONGER Own the Content. They are allowed access to the content as long as they are paying the monthly subscription. And even then, companies might restrict access.
    Fourth, there's no "Offline" database of Content, even if you have legally purchased it. Hence, no internet means no content.
    Simply put, these companies are essentially compelling torrents to return, if they have truly lost users.

  • @hisuiibmpower4
    @hisuiibmpower4 Місяць тому +31

    torrenting is absolutely necessarily in High censorship environment like China for viewers to get western music, movies ,tv shows etc

    • @martinmengh
      @martinmengh Місяць тому +4

      nonsense

    • @Madness1337
      @Madness1337 Місяць тому

      ​@@martinmengh How is that nonsense? In Asia torrenting is very popular partially for this reason

    • @darthvadeth6290
      @darthvadeth6290 Місяць тому

      @@Madness1337 Because in China, very few of us use torrents for many reason:
      1, we have our own social media environment and media content for everything we need, so 90% of our society don't even feel the need to use VPN to access foreign media.
      2. For those who do access foreign media, we don't access it all the time. Most of us still spend vast majority of our time consuming our own media content, even if we are capable of using the VPN to access foreign media.
      3. For those who do use VPN, and do regularly access foreign media, most are accessing the legal parts of foreign media (UA-cam, Twitter, Facebook, Google, Wikipedia, etc)
      4. For those who do use VPN, and do regularly access foreign media, and do access illegitimate parts of foreign media like torrent, they ran into the same problem that people outside of China run into (see list of problems in this video).
      So no, tormenting is not "absolutely necessarily in High censorship environment like China", because the cost benefit ratio is so terrible that it's really not worth it.
      We don't need foreign media content nearly as much as foreigners think we do, lol

    • @HasekuraIsuna
      @HasekuraIsuna Місяць тому

      @Madness1337 Asia except Japan. They have no idea what it is... Which means that the companies fleece them for money. : /

  • @reminon
    @reminon Місяць тому +2

    The word decline is misleading. If it still has the same amount of users 20 years later, but the internet is much larger today then it was in 2004, is it really a decline?

  • @Midori_Hoshi
    @Midori_Hoshi Місяць тому +2

    Torrenting is dead?! But there is no legal way to download and own most media in high quality to compete with it. Why would I pay money for an inferior product that I can't own instead of sticking with free high quality products that I can own? I have never used Netflix or similar streaming services in my life.

  • @TimRobertsen
    @TimRobertsen Місяць тому +5

    Oh no! The filthy rich losing money. I'm so sad buhu! :p

  • @JacquiPenar
    @JacquiPenar Місяць тому +4

    Watching this while torrenting 2tb of files😊🍿

  • @Judeschwein88
    @Judeschwein88 Місяць тому +5

    Torrenting never vansished. It is still here and aLIVE! Sharing is caring!

  • @MegasXLR
    @MegasXLR Місяць тому +1

    I'll never stop torrenting not only because it's free but because streaming services can randomly decide to remove content for no reason (it's happened for me with Spotify) so I'd rather have a local copy of my music and movies in a hard drive which nobody will delete.

  • @EroFelipe
    @EroFelipe Місяць тому +2

    Detective: "Are the Decline of Torrents in the room with us?"
    man, this dude is awayyyyyyyyyyyy off, and I´m glad people think like this.

  • @defuneste
    @defuneste Місяць тому

    Love your work, the way you build your videos. Everything is crystal clear and instructive. And your voice is soothing. Thanks!

  • @jblasutavario9549
    @jblasutavario9549 Місяць тому +4

    I don't watch normie stuff that's on Netflix. The rare shows I watch are out of print or not available on streaming platforms. Torrents it is to this day. And it's still going strong.

  • @waren3015
    @waren3015 29 днів тому +2

    Late 2024, I'm still using torrents!

  • @AlixBomolo
    @AlixBomolo Місяць тому +113

    I was a stay at Home mom with no money in my IRA or any savings of my own, which was scary at 53 years of age. Three years ago I got a part time job and save everything I make. After 3 years, I am 56 yo and have put $9,000 in an IRA and $40,000 in my portfolio with CFA, Stephanie Janis Stiefel. Since the goal of getting a job was to invest for retirement and NOT up my lifestyle, I was able to scale this quickly to $150,000. If I can do this in a year, anyone can.

    • @FriedaKaiser
      @FriedaKaiser Місяць тому

      I know this lady you just mentioned. Stephanie Janis Stiefel is a portfolio manager and investment advisor. She gained recognition as a former employee at Goldman Sachs; a renowned investor she is. Stephanie Janis Stiefel has demonstrated expertise in investment strategies and has been involved in managing portfolios and providing guidance to clients.

    • @Lenaschmidtttt
      @Lenaschmidtttt Місяць тому

      How can i reach her, if you don't mind me asking?

    • @AlixBomolo
      @AlixBomolo Місяць тому

      Well her name is 'STEPHANIE JANIS STIEFEL'. Just research the name. You'd find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.

    • @LauchlanBender
      @LauchlanBender Місяць тому

      Been debt free for two years thanks to Stephanie Janis Stiefel. So sad to see my friends in their 40s with car loans, mortgages and credit card debt.

    • @AnthonyAlves-dm5sd
      @AnthonyAlves-dm5sd Місяць тому

      The thing is people often doubt the prospects of financial advisors like Stephanie Janis Stiefel in business/markets today.
      Well it gives me more time to get ahead while they stew in their own pity and doubts as they childishly complain about those spreading the word

  • @MartenusPrince
    @MartenusPrince Місяць тому +1

    Torrents thrive as never before, with the legal platforms shattering their content more and more, torrenting is still relevant and the only safe and quality way to get to movies and series. We never stopped.

  • @jairac300
    @jairac300 Місяць тому +3

    torrents are dying nothing to see here

  • @leroywalton4348
    @leroywalton4348 Місяць тому +2

    Arrr, ye think torrenting be dead, do ye? Har har! Torrentin’ be as alive as the sea be deep, ye just need t' know where t' set sail! If ye've lost yer way, follow th' black flag an' keep yer sails full. There's always a cove where th' treasure still flows-ye just need th' right map!

  • @noctisarcanus7894
    @noctisarcanus7894 Місяць тому +9

    Way to make a video full of lies. Torrenting is more alive than ever. You can literally download any movie, album, game, book from hundreds of sites in seconds with tons of active seeds 24/7. You better delete this video because this is a serious hit to your credibility.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Місяць тому

      trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=torrents&hl=en

  • @crueI
    @crueI Місяць тому +1

    Torrents gave better user experience than most cable providers, then streaming services were born giving a better user experience than torrents. Alas the streaming services began destroying the user experience, thus torrents are making a come back.

  • @playerone2424
    @playerone2424 Місяць тому +3

    *Looks at Jellyfin server*
    Yeah sure, Torrenting it 'dead'.

  • @raiyaan.abdullah
    @raiyaan.abdullah Місяць тому +1

    If the streaming sites keep increasing prices, pushing ads and reducing content, torrenting will be the way to go again.

  • @dosomething6975
    @dosomething6975 Місяць тому +3

    P2P is still huge BTW

  • @felipe21994
    @felipe21994 Місяць тому +1

    I used torrenting to download games to try them and eventually buy them, most, if not all the games I pirated are now on my steam library, now I used it to get softwares, courses or videos/movies and similar things that are no longer up in their original sites, have been severely modified or are down and not available anywhere, but for me at least it's true that torrenting is dying, some files are just 4 or 5 people, and several have 0 seeds

  • @unavezms8167
    @unavezms8167 Місяць тому +7

    I've been pirating since I was old enough to use a computer. t's mostly how I get movies and series since every streaming service offers worse options then I'll get for free. Pirates will always find a way. I haven't noticed any change lately.

  • @sajid_92
    @sajid_92 Місяць тому +3

    you are not using it doesn't mean its dead😂

  • @MaleRainbowAction
    @MaleRainbowAction Місяць тому +1

    Subscriptions. People think paying a small fee to access nearly everything (but own nothing) is better value. However, as Redbox and all the EULs and TOS from digital marketplaces (prime, Apple, etc) don’t actually give you ownership. It’s more like a "own it as long as we exist or decide otherwise". They literally redefined "ownership" or "license", etc.

  • @AsifAzam
    @AsifAzam Місяць тому +3

    Useless video. Torrenting still going strong

  • @thatwasgaming6225
    @thatwasgaming6225 Місяць тому +2

    i couldn't disagree more with this video

  • @cinuxx
    @cinuxx Місяць тому +2

    Honestly you missed the biggest part of the story. While the relative percent of Internet traffic may have been going down for a long time, I think that's mostly because there are more people on the Internet doing things that use up more data. The actual user experience for piracy had only been getting better and easier for years. That is, up until Russia invaded Ukraine, both countries which had been the center of piracy since all the lawsuits started in the west. Releases have slown down a lot since then. A lot of the community has moved to private groups that you need to pay to join and have rules you need to follow which scares off new people even if it's much cheaper and easier than legal means.

  • @eddienyagah
    @eddienyagah Місяць тому

    Torrenting is STILL ALIVE and thriving my guy! The problem I have with the arguments made in this videos is that the statistics used are majorly from North America, specifically the USA. For many people in developing countries, piracy is literally the only way they can access movies and music. In my country Kenya 🇰🇪, movie shops selling pirated international media are the economic lifeline for so many families. Every neighbourhood you go to will have hundreds of them. They are everywhere! Streaming subscriptions are still out of reach for many people here. And even for those who have Netflix, they may not have the money to subscribe to multiple streaming services like Amazon or Hulu so they'll end up pirating content found on those other services they don't have. And with the increase in the availability of broadband home internet across the country, torrenting has become easier than it's ever been.

  • @marvinochieng6295
    @marvinochieng6295 Місяць тому +2

    As a kenyan, this video is inaccurate

  • @RT-wt7gu
    @RT-wt7gu Місяць тому +1

    I live in Baltics and torrenting is not dead. Every friend uses it. Why pay for multiple crap streaming service when you can just download every movie/series/games/software? Nobody cares about downloading music.

  • @KurgerBing-p5i
    @KurgerBing-p5i Місяць тому +3

    im not paying netflix 40 bucks a month to watch netflix originals and bollywood movies, get real lmao

  • @rtothec1234
    @rtothec1234 Місяць тому +1

    I find torrenting to be so much work. These days I barely watch movies and TV shows. If it’s not available on a streaming service I find worth paying for then I just do without.

  • @zxljmvvmmf3024
    @zxljmvvmmf3024 Місяць тому +5

    yea bs video, sorry :/

  • @GARdotETH
    @GARdotETH Місяць тому +1

    It was a great time to be alive! When it was all new, you could get new music, new video, games, software. It was an amazing time. I think half the problem was not many people saw it as an "illegal" activity. It was more like a social network before Facebook and such. Except you didn't really know the people you were connect too 😂

  • @syedfaheez69
    @syedfaheez69 Місяць тому +15

    most of the PC games are torrented

  • @doomtomb3
    @doomtomb3 Місяць тому +1

    If it’s hosted somewhere else I.e. Netflix, UA-cam, it’s not guaranteed to be up tomorrow. I still prefer torrenting.

  • @jasongrundy1717
    @jasongrundy1717 Місяць тому +3

    It was never even CLOSE to 70%. Utter nonsense.

  • @Theborg72
    @Theborg72 Місяць тому +1

    I can at first agree with you. But since Chapter 5 the streaming services are getting greedy. Where they look at how they can force more money from the users and force them back to torrenting as the companies ignore creating a service for users and instead see how they can force more money from the users and deliver worse service.
    So now, I think there is a greater risk that it will be torrent 2.0 instead of those streaming services that only think about sucking out more money than making a service that benefits everyone.

  • @AKABoondock19
    @AKABoondock19 Місяць тому +5

    lol this is so full of shit