Rich Strike Punched on the Track - what actually happened? Kentucky derby 2022 winner

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  • @HandbagDiva
    @HandbagDiva 2 роки тому +232

    The trainer said the stallion was pissed off from being held back because he was still in race mode. He thanked the outrider for saving his horse from potential calamity.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому +20

      oh, please. The horse would’ve been fine to have been let go. Was pathetic of outrider.

    • @craptainofsea
      @craptainofsea 2 роки тому

      @@blackout07blue You're 100% guaranteed a bleeding heart liberal. Only someone who thinks with their feelings and not their brain would say that OR agree with you. Liberalism is a disease. Let's all pray for a cure.

    • @carriecummings4151
      @carriecummings4151 2 роки тому +29

      @@blackout07blue It would have been ok to let him go? Do you know anything about horses? It was the Kentucky Derby, there were other horses, and people on the race track. Not to mention the risk to his jockey and the risk that he would injury himself. A horses is a thousand pound animal, in pastures and in wild horse herds the horses kick and and bite each other. Do you think a man on a horse can hit or elbow a horse harder than another horse would.

    • @HandbagDiva
      @HandbagDiva 2 роки тому +23

      @@blackout07blue You don’t know much about horses do you?

    • @marc416
      @marc416 2 роки тому +3

      Yes.. that was exactly what happened. RS was still in in go FU mode.

  • @marycoffman9025
    @marycoffman9025 2 роки тому +238

    I used to groom a horse that would try to attack any horse that passed him in a race. He would buck and kick all the way back to the barn. Then when he won, he was calm and walked back to the barn like a king. I don't think adding another horse into the mix would have done any good and could have made it worse. I think he was still competing in his mind. He is an amazing horse with a lot of heart.

    • @TonyWud
      @TonyWud 2 роки тому +26

      Totally agree. His trainer said the outrider probably saved his horse from injury. You are exactly correct. The trainer said he was not a mean horse but he didn't like the idea of another horse passing him.

    • @brucewayne3602
      @brucewayne3602 2 роки тому +13

      excellent summation ... call it the indominable spirit of Rich Strike, "want to go another few furlongs" ...

    • @lindajohnson3272
      @lindajohnson3272 2 роки тому +6

      Well said.

    • @angelwings7930
      @angelwings7930 2 роки тому +4

      That’s a perfect description.

    • @cranmer1959
      @cranmer1959 2 роки тому +12

      Exactly. There were plenty of other horses on the track and none of them had an outrider riding into their zone. The outrider caused the whole thing. And worse, the outrider got distracted and was not paying attention to what he was doing.

  • @VSE4me1
    @VSE4me1 2 роки тому +154

    Rich Strike’s trainer said “that outrider saved my horse from injury, if he had gotten loose or gone over he could have often severely injured”. So no matter whatever armchair spectators may say, the horse’s trainer is very grateful.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому +12

      ya, bullsh*t. Didn’t save the horse from anything.

    • @suzanneyoung8011
      @suzanneyoung8011 2 роки тому

      @@blackout07blue go troll somewhere else. The only BS here is coming from you.

    • @marlenestewart7442
      @marlenestewart7442 2 роки тому +6

      @@blackout07blue But he did get him to the NBC interview timely and Reed is grateful for that!

    • @marycrocker7087
      @marycrocker7087 2 роки тому +8

      I think he did a fine job! The horse just won a race and was full of himself and raw energy! No way to defend against bites and dangerous behavior but to be firm. A 2000 pound horse is pretty hard to hurt with a hand.

    • @kevind1980
      @kevind1980 2 роки тому +6

      Also directly from Rich Strike, he said "The outrider punches like a bitch, didn't feel a thing."

  • @TheEmeraldElf
    @TheEmeraldElf 2 роки тому +244

    I agree with your analysis, I think a lot of folks haven’t seen the damage a horse can do with their teeth. A Nieghbor lost an ear to my grandpa’s gelding who was a nippy 2 year old and 15 years later another gelding bit my grandma’s cattle dog and threw her! Vet had to reattach a 4”x6” flap of skin to her back! (Dog was fine, but she never went near a horse again) both cases were geldings. Stallions are biologically driven to challenge each other and the only thing keeping that from happening is the people saddled in the field. Had he gotten loose and attacked another horse the damage could be catastrophic. Personally I’m impressed with the handler he stayed mounted on a rearing horse while keeping another from breaking free or biting his face/torso!

    • @pamarchuleta2158
      @pamarchuleta2158 2 роки тому +14

      I agree, people need to understand how dangerous the situation was and how bad it could have been.
      Stallions can be very hard to keep control of sometimes. The outrider was
      just trying to keep the horse from biting him again or his horse. Rich Strike was totally out of line.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому +6

      Then let go of the damn horse! Jesus.

    • @avalon218
      @avalon218 2 роки тому +22

      Did you just miss what everyone else said? Letting him go would've be FAR FAR worse for the safety of ALL involved, horses and people.

    • @JoseMartinez-fb1ro
      @JoseMartinez-fb1ro 2 роки тому +5

      @@blackout07blue wow look at cartoons you sound like you would probably understand it better don't look at horse racing

    • @pamarchuleta2158
      @pamarchuleta2158 2 роки тому +5

      Thank you, some horses need schooling on manners and some people do too!

  • @mageofdoomsie1598
    @mageofdoomsie1598 2 роки тому +172

    Rich Strike is a stallion practically in his prime, full of testosterone and adrenaline from a race. He most likely weighs well over 1000+ pounds. He was acting very fresh and green and, as stallions love to do, wanted to assert his dominance on the other horses/ponies around him. In a pasture or in the wild, this is no big deal. The lesser horse can easily run off and avoid conflict. In this situation however, the horse being picked on could not escape the pressure being placed by his rider and by Rich Strike and as we saw, began to rear up as a way to escape both pressure points. Rearing up is a sign of dominance, as it’s trying to get higher and in a better position to come down on an opponent. Rich Strike saw this as a challenge and continued to assert his dominance. This all poses a very dangerous threat to everyone around those horses. The riders couldve been thrown off, kicked, or bitten and no one wants that. The horses could’ve also run off and not only injure themselves, but possibly other horses and people.
    Correcting a horse is difficult when they’re hyperfocused on something, especially if it’s trying to dominate you or another horse. Giving them a pop on the nose is NOT abuse. Of course, please don’t deck your horse in the face if it’s getting fresh with you, but giving them a swat or two won’t kill them. Horses correct other horses physically, with kicks and bites. A 150 pound human popping them on the nose isn’t going to hurt them too much, but it’ll give them a warning saying “listen to me, I’m the high horse here, knock it off”.
    The jockey cannot go off on his own to put the horse away, so they can’t separate from the person leading them away. There’s procedures to follow and this is done for everyone’s safety, including the horses. Please keep this in mind folks.

    • @cherylmetteer525
      @cherylmetteer525 2 роки тому

      You are wrong about the rearing. RS had the pony horse's rein in his mouth, pulling. Thats when the outrider started jerking on RS, to try to get him to release it.

    • @Slambam73
      @Slambam73 2 роки тому +11

      100%

    • @salvadorii99
      @salvadorii99 2 роки тому +9

      I agree with just about everything except the options of handling such a horse in such a moment. The outrider could have dropped the lead line and allow the jockey to deal with the horse. If the jockey can race him, he can walk him or just ask him to stand. Option 2, someone on the ground without a horse could have handled the horse. Option 3, hitting the horse and picking a fight with a 1200 lb horse is not an option, no matter the set procedures that they might have. You are working with a live animal that is thinking and reacting in the moment. You should too, to all horse handlers. That stallion, if he were really vicious, could have killed that outrider. Seriously, I have seen it. Stallions are different creatures. They should be treated with caution and respect. The racing world should really hire a true horseman/woman who can advise them and guide them through these times and to set up better procedures and better education for outriders and all horse handlers. It will not only look better on tv, but more importantly, it will save lives.

    • @jesusbuenpastor9729
      @jesusbuenpastor9729 2 роки тому

      @@salvadorii99 waooo. Yo no sé mucho de caballos pero ví la destreza con la cual este " verdadero jinete" hizo la hazaña de remontar el caballo como si tuviera alas y ganar el Derby como no se hace desde 1913!!!! Entiendo que las hormonas del semental " no se pueden controlar" pero si que hay procedimientos que se cumplieron. Lo demás parece un cuento de " envidias"

    • @AnthonyWilliams-sj6cm
      @AnthonyWilliams-sj6cm 2 роки тому +16

      I was a groom for a long time and the last thing you want to do with a high strung adrenaline filled colt is to make him stand still or walk. Ponying him at a slow jog helps to settle him. Making him stand is actually applying pressure physically and mentally and he will react negatively

  • @shannonellig1989
    @shannonellig1989 2 роки тому +97

    First off, the act of leading a horse off another horse is called ponying. Some people call it jipping too. The pony horse is not a pony it is a full size horse. If you actually look it's bigger than Rich Strike.
    As someone who has broke out and trained many horses I would like to point out that this guy did an amazing job. Rich Strike is a three year old stud. This means he is pumping with testosterone and after the race aderlin too. Not to mention looking at his pedigree, he had Mr. Prospector on both top and bottom lines. He was known for being ornery during races and after. One thing I think people forget is these race horses are not pets, they are athletes. They are bred to do one thing and one thing only....run. They do not have the normal training and manners that other horses have. Again, they are not pets. People have to remember that they weigh 1000+ pounds. Manhandling them is sometimes the only way to get them to behave. This man did an excellent job on containing this horse. This girl narrating clearly has no idea about training horses. Circling a horse is the first thing the pony man should have done, which he tried. This changes the horses direction a shows them they are not i control. This girl also said that the man should not have been pulling rich strikes nose towards him and the jockey should have been pulling on the right rein. This is laughable! Horses follow their nose. You have control of their nose you control the horse. This was exactly what the pony man was doing. Also jockeys aren't suppose to do anything. With stirrups that short they are at the mercy of the horse. They are taught to let the pony men do their jobs. The narrator also stated that they should have gotten another pony horse on the other side of rich strike to hold each side....the only thing this would have done is gave rich strike another horse to bite. The jerks that the pony man was giving rich strike to try and get him to behave were harmless. Race horses run in ring bits. There are no shanks on them so therefore there is no leverage. A grown man could not jerk that horse hard enough with just his hands to hurt that horse. The smartest thing the pony man did was get that horse's feet moving. As soon as he got rich strike trotting he behaved. Knowing what to do to manage horses is not easy. Especially young ones. They are all different. And knowing what to do in a tough situation is key. I will say it again this pony man should not be fired, he should be praised for doing his job accordingly.

    • @lorriegannon766
      @lorriegannon766 2 роки тому +4

      Great explanation👍👍

    • @pamarchuleta2158
      @pamarchuleta2158 2 роки тому

      I agree with everything that you've said, Shannon.

    • @Dreamer-by4nk
      @Dreamer-by4nk 2 роки тому +2

      He should of released him and let the jockey calm him. You don’t punch a horse in the face.

    • @cyndi2998
      @cyndi2998 2 роки тому +6

      @@Dreamer-by4nk The outrider did exactly what he was supposed to do in that situation. Even R Strike"s trainer said that. If you are not an experienced horse person you would not know that.

    • @Dreamer-by4nk
      @Dreamer-by4nk 2 роки тому +4

      @@cyndi2998 I’ve been around horses my whole life and I’m 61 yrs old. If pony boy would of released him, the jockey would calm him and they could separate so no one would get bitten or kicked. This was not handled right and they are lucky that Lucky Strike didn’t get hurt.

  • @renpixie
    @renpixie 2 роки тому +18

    I had to punch a race horse in the nose once. I was holding her for her trainer AFTER a race . She was supposed to be tired out but thought I was fair game. It straightened out her attitude. The trainer laughed when I apologized ; said 1 punch against a 1200 pound horse isn’t going to cause much damage.

    • @Cwgrlup
      @Cwgrlup 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly. It’s called “pecking order.” Either you’re lower order higher.

  • @paulnolan6527
    @paulnolan6527 2 роки тому +13

    As an ex Jockey myself. Greg the outrider did a great job, he is in a difficult position, he was getting bitten and probably his pony also. The jock is giving Greg no help, he’s just sitting like a noodle, lapping up all the praise from the other riders. I myself would be overwhelmed, but I would also have to be professional and help the outrider, because ultimately everyone involved could get hurt, then the Monday morning armchair trainer’s, Jockey’s and Outrider’s would have a field day. Unless you have been in that position, SHUT UP!

    • @willielam2189
      @willielam2189 2 роки тому +2

      I like the way you put it .that was a bad bad situation.i agree witcha!

    • @janw491
      @janw491 2 роки тому +1

      It did look bad from an onlooker who knows nothing. He should have accepted help but really! He and his pony was being bitten! Difficult situation with a very hyped up stallion.

    • @Bumcakes_igotem
      @Bumcakes_igotem Рік тому +1

      100% correct. Sonny was a Belterra and Mahoning rider before this, and he just won the biggest American race. I think he was in shock honestly. I took the bite photo and in every frame of the sequence, Sonny was exactly a noodle...like, he was checked out to lunch LOL. I gave that print to Eric and Sid, but Sonny and Rick (the owner) didn't want it...especially Sonny hehe. I do feel he was embarrassed by it. I have a signed print of it in my work office and my clients ask me about it. I pick on Greg about it too, and at this year's Derby, as he left the turf winners circle after dropping off Mage, I yelled to him "At least you didn't get bit this year". I also spent a LOT of time with Richie, all year. At Saratoga, he bit the hell out of a friend of mine on her bicep. The bruise was amazing. Like a rainbow or an oil slick after the rain. Some people can play with his tongue but most can't even get near him bc of his unpredictability.

  • @nancyk3615
    @nancyk3615 2 роки тому +250

    The other outrider was about to give him the strap but as soon as he went to get it from the other guy, the colt felt the change and went to pushing etc. I can guarantee that guy will have a serious bruise and possibly a laceration from that bite. The colt also grabbed the pony's rein nearly causing him to flip on the rider. He did what he had to do prevent a loose horse scenario. When I ponied at the track I had lots of nippy horses and that horse was pretty rank but he did what ever it took to stop it from escalating .I never would've been able to get through that storm. This outrider is a top hand and sometimes things can go south real quick. He matched the horse's energy and got him back to being a better little soldier. That horse was still wanting to keep going and he got frustrated in the heat of the moment and became rank. I would be proud for that outrider to have my back ANY day.

    • @Slambam73
      @Slambam73 2 роки тому +6

      Agreed!!

    • @derrytaylor7417
      @derrytaylor7417 2 роки тому +2

      Thank You so Much for explaining this 💓

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому +2

      The rider was so dumb not letting go or handing it off.

    • @angelwings7930
      @angelwings7930 2 роки тому +4

      Would it have helped if they were allowing him to trot after the race ? Instead of walk ? Yes critics aren’t thinking of how powerful and dangerous horses can be.

    • @nancyk3615
      @nancyk3615 2 роки тому +6

      When you have 1100 lbs of horse savaging you and your horse. you can't simply "hand" it off to someone else. If that horse had gotten loose he could've hurt himself or others Bravo for hanging on and preventing a potential disaster!

  • @maritasue5067
    @maritasue5067 2 роки тому +21

    Few people reading this have ever been around stallions, much less adolescent stallions.
    I once witnessed a potential disaster, where stupid parents had gifted their teenage daughter with a 3 year old colt. She had started riding him at home, but then decided it was time to ride him in a public arena. Within a few seconds of her entering the ring, the colt (word for young stallion) had dumped her and galloped after an old gelding that was being ridden by a 10 year old boy. The stallion got the boys jacket in his teeth and wouldn’t let go, but luckily it was poofy down and he didn’t connect with the kid’s skin. Also luckily, a couple of professional cowboys came to the rescue.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому

      Then let the horse go. Lol

    • @tellmestraight
      @tellmestraight 2 роки тому +1

      @@blackout07blue You are a broken record despite all the evidence given to the contrary.

    • @jeanettegray7462
      @jeanettegray7462 2 роки тому +1

      Also few have handled racing stallions or even mares and geldings. They are fit and a handful (quite a feeling on the other end of the leadline). You had to keep safety in mind at all times( theirs and yours), always give yourself a way out because they could seriously injure or kill you (but not out of meanness, generally).

    • @jeanettegray7462
      @jeanettegray7462 2 роки тому

      A stallion doesn't do what a stallion does out of meanness, but the destruction may be the same. Some kids cartoons get bad ideas going.

    • @maritasue5067
      @maritasue5067 2 роки тому +1

      @@blackout07blue , the story I told was about one hyped-up (but usually well behaved) stallion in a public place. If those cowboys hadn’t risked themselves and caught him, he may have killed the little boy. Imagine what might have happened if the hyped-up racehorse got away from the outrider and dumped his rider.

  • @theresashelton7063
    @theresashelton7063 2 роки тому +19

    That outrider definitely did what he could do to keep everyone safe! Stallions can be tricky to handle and no one comments on how he calmed down once his people (groom) got him in the winners circle. He was over excited and lashing out at strangers. It's too bad the outrider had to react but it happens since horses can be unpredictable

    • @patriley5136
      @patriley5136 2 роки тому

      I agree. the stallion was really hyper.

  • @albertbrown7941
    @albertbrown7941 2 роки тому +31

    Your analysis is very good. Easy for us to second guess the outrider in the moment, who suffered some serious bites. Only people who know nothing about horses are calling for the outrider to be fired. This will be a learning experience for track personnel and the rest of us. If a horse is really biting you, your punching or slapping it will not hurt the horse. You may gain time to get away by distracting it.

  • @kategleason6481
    @kategleason6481 2 роки тому +16

    Watching the ponies lead the horses to the gate I noticed a couple had leather pads across their lower neck/withers.
    When I saw Rich Strike biting this pony I understood why...they should all wear them, and the outriders should wear leather chaps.
    He needed to wind down after the race. he was still full of adrenaline and fire. We can wait on the jockey being interviewed until he's off the horse.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому +2

      It wouldn’t be an issue if the stupid outrider just let the horse go in this exact situation.

    • @vikkihall-webster7598
      @vikkihall-webster7598 2 роки тому +2

      I support the outrider's actions, but I do agree, I've always thought that the idea of interviewing the jockey while he's still riding a very hot horse was a very stupid idea. I'm surprised that owners and trainers don't protest it.

  • @eliassalcedo5229
    @eliassalcedo5229 2 роки тому +17

    This happens every day in horseracing, some safety handling procedures should have been followed. It was embarrassing to watch, the mediocrecy.

    • @hermmdawgg3584
      @hermmdawgg3584 2 роки тому +2

      Learn how to spell before you criticize.

    • @jeffreygenthner2694
      @jeffreygenthner2694 2 роки тому +1

      @@hermmdawgg3584 you learn to think about what the guy is saying, instead of bringing up trivial irrevelant little things that don't further the actual point

    • @mariannemedina4202
      @mariannemedina4202 2 роки тому +1

      I agree with you Elias, the outrider is not the expert handler that everyone thinks he is. He does not have a secure seat or good control of his own horse’s reins. His reins were so long he had to resort to holding his hand too high almost pulling his horse over on top of himself. His reins were often uneven. He was often grappling for his seat his horses mouth suffering as a result. Rich Strike was difficult for sure but this outrider made things worse instead of better.
      That was a “S” show because of the outrider, not the horses.
      I would not want him riding or handling any of my horses!

  • @elmhorse
    @elmhorse 2 роки тому +45

    Nice analysis. I think as far as “accepting help” we can’t hear the conversation between the two riders, but ultimately he’s handing Greg a lead which for some reason he didn’t already have. He was holding on to Rich Strikes rein. So I think he didn’t want to let go of the rein before he got the lead.
    But rewatching it a few times now, I don’t see any point where he “punched” the horse as a lot of people on the internet are trying to claim.

    • @alexiskitten7290
      @alexiskitten7290 2 роки тому +6

      He did punch the horse and the horse deserved it. These are big animals and they will take advantage unless you show them who is boss

    • @melliott333
      @melliott333 2 роки тому +9

      I agree. He pushed RS's head away; he didn't punch him.

    • @elmhorse
      @elmhorse 2 роки тому +11

      @@alexiskitten7290 Unless you had a camera angle other than the one on TV it’s pretty difficult to say he “punched” him. A lot of the violent looking downward hand motion from Greg was him jerking the lead downward once he had it on him. Which is how they refocus an unruly stallion. And even then he didn’t have as much leverage as a person standing on the ground would have . There is one photo I’ve seen where there is a clear view of Rich Strike biting the outrider’s leg. By Heather C Jackson. At any rate, he was handled as he needed to be under the circumstances.

    • @sharonfort898
      @sharonfort898 2 роки тому +7

      I watched it over and over again and did not see the outsider punch the horse. He was trying to CONTROL RS without letting go. An extremely dangerous situation I can only imagine. On top of it all, there were many riders around the situation and they had the best seats in the house at every angle. They new exactly what was going on and were ready to assist if the timing was appropriate and from what I clearly saw in the video the outsider doing what he and others are trained to do what they do best. Leave it alone for those of you thinking it was abuse for godsake. You are 100% wrong.

    • @judytreischl6899
      @judytreischl6899 2 роки тому +1

      @@alexiskitten7290 That was after the horse bit the out rider on the leg and then the pony.

  • @bajofry13
    @bajofry13 2 роки тому +20

    Not a racing expert by any means but did work as a hostler for a few years, among other duties; what I saw was tame compared to what I've seen handlers and trainers do to feisty stallions who, if they don't believe you are in charge, will seriously hurt you. I've seen a handler bite a horse (philly) who bit him and watched that horse, with wide-shocked eyes, decide obeying him was better than resisting.

    • @yesher12
      @yesher12 2 роки тому +2

      Did you mean, "filly"?

    • @bajofry13
      @bajofry13 2 роки тому

      @@yesher12 yes, mental muscle memory from having relatives in Philly for years but yes it's filly but actually as I remember it more clearly, the horse who got bit by the slightly insane trainer (but not more nuts than the farrier who was probably kicked a few times too many) was an older mare who was a breeder and former racer.

  • @suestaley844
    @suestaley844 2 роки тому +38

    He was trying to hold him by the rein. That doesn't work too well. The other outrider gave him a shank and the problems went away. We always carried a shank (and wore thick chaps to fend off the teeth) when I ponied in Maryland.

    • @watchmanonthewall667
      @watchmanonthewall667 2 роки тому +1

      Leather chaps would definitely help!

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому +4

      I was ready to shank the pony rider for not letting go.

    • @seventhson27
      @seventhson27 2 роки тому

      @@blackout07blue I'd like to see you catch a very agitated horse again after letting him go.

    • @halokina
      @halokina 2 роки тому

      @@blackout07blue letting him go would have been disastrous and then the outrider really would have been fired.

  • @michellegarry1872
    @michellegarry1872 2 роки тому +264

    Until the critics can “ride a mile in his shoes,” they need to keep their opinions to themselves. Nuff said.

    • @derekwakefield2596
      @derekwakefield2596 2 роки тому +5

      You keep your opinions to yourself...

    • @Jabo__Jabo
      @Jabo__Jabo 2 роки тому +13

      Rich Strike was very very stressed … look at his face … he needed space and time to calm down …. not some egomaniacal outrider rushing up on him to get him camera-ready.

    • @mairedaly4926
      @mairedaly4926 2 роки тому +2

      I can guarantee you, the 'critic' commenting is an expert on equine behaviour & handling.
      A friend of mine who owns a stud farm remarked to me once how much women love their horses and specialize in 'dressage' which involves the most complex level of horse training/handling

    • @michellegarry1872
      @michellegarry1872 2 роки тому

      Máire Daly I stand by what I said.

    • @Luvtallhorses
      @Luvtallhorses 2 роки тому +12

      @@mairedaly4926 you can be an expert in another discipline and not have a real clue about how to handle this situation. It's not pony club

  • @mitchconner2021
    @mitchconner2021 2 роки тому +5

    I guarantee no human can punch a horse hard enough to hurt it. Those beautiful creatures are tougher than any of us can imagine.

    • @hankluvsdagny
      @hankluvsdagny Рік тому

      You've never seen Blazing Saddles, have you? Mongo!

  • @brycesnyder7753
    @brycesnyder7753 2 роки тому +96

    I’ve been around, raised, and barrel raced my whole life, and before anyone jumps down my throat about it being completely different I realize this, but a horse is a horse. They have the same instinctual behaviors. The out rider is in no means wrong with how this was handled. That is a three year old colt!! They are high spirited even when not racing!! In laymans terms they’re assholes by nature. They are pull immediately from the track to cool down away from others so accidents don’t happen, which is what the out rider was in the process of doing. It’s more dangerous for them to let the racers trot around the track to “calm/cool down” than it is to take them off immediately after. They weren’t rushing him off for the media or anything like that. NO ONE is going to take a fully amped up colt into a huge crowd of people. As for the comment about having the other out rider put a lead on on the other side of his face, that could’ve made the whole situation even worse. Some horses DO NOT like being cross tied, which is exactly what having a lead on both sides. Plus adding a THIRD horse in the mix in its own could have made it worse. As for the jockey, he was assisting as much as he could. Those are racing reins which are short and tight, though it doesn’t look like he’s pulling, to those who aren’t familiar with that rein type, you don’t need a wide pull because they are so short and tight. Even if he pulled clear out so that it was completely noticeable, if a horse doesn’t want to give up his head he isn’t going. A horses neck is all muscle and some small built jockey isn’t going to force him to give his head. Smacking, tapping, hitting is horse may hurt them a bit yes but they are built to withstand being kicked and struck by other horses so they can take it!! I’m not condoning animal abuse but that is not what this is. Until you have been bit, kicked, stepped on and so forth by a 1200+ pound horse you don’t have a right to demand this out rider to be punished in any means. Everyone is blowing this whole thing out of the water and needs to take a step back. Those in charge of Rich Strike, the jockey, the out rider and everything else will handle it the way it needs to be!!

    • @marlenestewart7442
      @marlenestewart7442 2 роки тому +5

      yes, Rich Strike WAS being rushed off to his NBC interview, Reed said as much and the proof is in the pudding (that's what actually happened). The horse's needs were never the first concern.

    • @brycesnyder7753
      @brycesnyder7753 2 роки тому +5

      @@marlenestewart7442 yes he was to be taken to the interview, he’s the derby winner that’s how it works, BUT like I said before no one is going to take a fully amped up horse into a mob of people!! It just doesn’t happen!! Reed said himself the out rider saved Rich Strike from major injuries because he knows the horses can not stay on the track to “cool” down. I don’t know if you’ve ever been around 5 let alone 20 amped up horses but if left to do as they want it can and does go from 0-100 in the blink of an eye and very avoidable injuries can/do happen so those horses have to come off the track as soon as it’s over

    • @yakzivz1104
      @yakzivz1104 2 роки тому +3

      The only jerks in this video are the humans sorry.

    • @pamarchuleta2158
      @pamarchuleta2158 2 роки тому +3

      You hit the nail on the head, unless you've lived the life of someone from the backside, you aren't aware of how things are. Thank you for being one of the real ones.

    • @vicentezlosilo6948
      @vicentezlosilo6948 2 роки тому

      Pony rider needs to be patient
      Not to impose power
      He may have to slow down the horse speed.

  • @TazaTime
    @TazaTime 2 роки тому +51

    No one was paying attention. This colt was amped up (They didn't give him time to get some of the adrenaline out), he was known to be a little bit difficult, he has a soft mouth and the pony rider had his bit crooked..... On more than one occasion Rich Strike shook his head indicating that things were off in his mouth and he was ignored.... It was a bad situation all the way around. There should have been a second pony on the other side from the beginning, it would have protected everyone all the way around. I am not going to say the pony rider needs to loose his job, everyone can have a bad day... but he definitely needs to have more training, or at least a definite talking to. Rich Strike should have been ponied by Harley and his rider then it wouldn't have happened like this. Steady veteran pony, steady veteran rider, heavier built pony (Harley is a American Sugarbush Harlequin Draft so has a nice heavy build with a solid, more steady temperament), with a calmer temperament to help calm the colt, he was there, I saw him pony #10 (iirc) to the gate, and could have had it under control.. Rich Strike should have been given a little more time at the end of the race to trot it out... Rich Strike ponied just fine going TO the gate, he could have ponied just fine COMING from the gate if they gave him some time and room.

    • @seentheah3562
      @seentheah3562 2 роки тому +8

      Best analysis of the situation.

    • @eliara-thevoice8430
      @eliara-thevoice8430 2 роки тому +4

      Outstanding analysis. He should have been allowed to run off his adrenaline. Poor decisions made....all the way around. The horse needs to be drug tested.

    • @dankasper5104
      @dankasper5104 2 роки тому +2

      @@seentheah3562 ⁹yrs

    • @johnmiley458
      @johnmiley458 2 роки тому +2

      The horse was drug tested. Those riders don't use normal thought. Their minds minds are wired to respond without thinking and sometimes seeing.

    • @TheLirJEt86
      @TheLirJEt86 2 роки тому +1

      You should be a horse man

  • @FoxyMaroon
    @FoxyMaroon 2 роки тому +139

    This is a bad ass dominant young stallion. He does not care to be ponied and is letting everyone know. A come from the back Kentucky derby winner like no other. The guys are professionals and handled it appropriately by keeping him moving forward at all times and distracting his aggression. Stallions can get very physical especially when their racing Adrenalin is through the roof. The stallion was attacking both pony rider and pony horse as dominant stallions will do. I admire this stallion very much for his tremendous confidence pushing right through the pack from behind (a lot of horses move away and break stride when that close contact is made). This horse pushed forward!!! He is extremely brave and a fighter.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому +2

      That wasn’t professional at all.

    • @Noblemiss
      @Noblemiss 2 роки тому +4

      I agree, save one point, and its important. Rich Strike is not a stallion, he is a colt. They aren't called stallions until age 4. Plus, they are all given the same birthdays, so a foal that is only 4 to 6 months old, will be called a yearling on Jan 1st. What this means, if you look at the actual bday of the colt, is that they might actually only be 2 1/2 years old. This is a male youngster, in the early spring that's raging with young teenage hormones AND he is a hotblooded competitor! Now throw in the sudden introduction of the older "pony", a grown stallion probably and another human trying to control him, the massive noise from the crowd...and the fact that these are very strong and powerful beasts, bred in fact to be that way! Everything I saw in that video was reasonable...even the outrider defending himself. Remember there have also been a great many human deaths at these events because of these horses very nature!

    • @cowcatcher9186
      @cowcatcher9186 2 роки тому +2

      Noblemiss nobody in their right mind would have a stallion as a pony horse. I’d even venture to say that stallions aren’t allowed to be pony horses. I never asked specifically so I can’t tell you 100%. I grew up around the tracks as my dad was a trainer. I only remember geldings being around as pony horses. I have a neighbor that is a trainer and I know the brother of the outrider that is handling rich strike in this video. So I suppose I could ask them for sure. Otherwise, I agree with most of what you said.

    • @Noblemiss
      @Noblemiss 2 роки тому +1

      @@cowcatcher9186 Actually I was thinking the same thing after I wrote that post, most are geldings, but not always, the personality and training of the horses have a play in the "equation" so to speak. And sometimes mares are used, or simply gentle breeds...we often see Percherons (a smaller draft breed...which is why I hate that they call them "ponies" when often they obviously are not.) There's always exceptions to every rule I suppose. I admire that outriders mount though. It took several hits and withstood them.

  • @bckraut
    @bckraut 2 роки тому +7

    I concur with your synopsis, 100%. I think a victory cool~down lap schould be warranted in high stakes racing.

  • @hannahhowden8980
    @hannahhowden8980 2 роки тому +145

    I partially agree with your statements, but I don’t think that flanking the Colt with another horse would have calmed him down at all I think a second strap and another horse in his space could have seriously escalated the situation. We all know how fast cross ties can become a nightmare scenario and the lengths we go to to make cross ties safe, could you imagine cross ties with no safety release and people’s arms as the anchors?? The horse was obviously being set off by the presence of the pony so blocking the horse in with another horse could have gone so wrong so fast. The jockey also actually had an extremely tight hold on his mouth and I disagree that he could have pulled the horse’s head around, bit or no bit, a horse is always stronger than you and in this scenario I don’t know that there was much more the jockey could have done. Horses naturally blood dope during extreme exercise. When they race, their spleen contracts dumping extra, stored red blood cells into the blood stream along with an excessive amount of adrenaline. It creates like another mental gear of fight or flight and it’s impressive for anyone to handle a horse in this state when they aren’t trying to take a chuck out of someone. In other words, the tiny jockey on his back isn’t physically able to stop him, hence the need for a mounted outrider in the first place. I don’t support the racing industry for unrelated reasons and I’ll never condone the use of physical violence as a way to train a horse, but the safety of both the horses and people involved are always the top priority and I think the outrider did a phenomenal job attempting to de-escalate, keep all parties safe including his pony, the poor thing, and get the horse out of there as fast as possible.

    • @myrnabergen5342
      @myrnabergen5342 2 роки тому +4

      Agree on all points

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому +10

      BS. All the outrider had to do was let the horse go or give to someone else.

    • @stacypolk3580
      @stacypolk3580 2 роки тому

      @@blackout07blue Agreed. After exerting such adrenaline Rich Strike was hyped. Why punch his face? That certainly isn't going to calm this stallion. I don't understand either why the jockey can't just take over and walk the horse to the stables when things went South. Had the outrider damaged Rick Strike's eye people would demand the firing of this guy.

    • @Rhonda.D.Wright
      @Rhonda.D.Wright 2 роки тому +4

      Agreed with all points. Handing off to another outrider would have been same scenario as with first.

    • @LE123LE123
      @LE123LE123 2 роки тому +17

      Exactly what I just wrote-clipping a second lead with a second horse would have been instant disaster with Rich Strike likely rearing up and flipping over. These out riders don’t need internet jockeys telling them how to do their jobs. They know. This outrider did an amazing job.

  • @emmajoseph2603
    @emmajoseph2603 2 роки тому +44

    I love when you discuss these situations because you take such a fair view on things and give constructive thoughts on what happened. The social media mob when things like this happen is quite terrifying and often cruel and unfair. Someone clearly abusing horses is one thing but this is just a guy doing a difficult job in a high pressure situation and doing the best he could at the time.

    • @CarolanIvey
      @CarolanIvey 2 роки тому +5

      Agreed! Controlling a thousand pounds of adrenaline-pumped young stallion is no joke and potentially dangerous, not only for the two horses and riders involved but for the millions of dollars worth of other race horses on the track.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому +1

      Oh, please. Such bullsh*t. All the outrider had to do was let go.

    • @vikkihall-webster7598
      @vikkihall-webster7598 2 роки тому +1

      @@blackout07blue And then Rich Strike tears off in an adrenaline-pumped rage. How do you think the owners watching from the stands would feel about the outrider then?

    • @lisagardner334
      @lisagardner334 2 роки тому +4

      @@vikkihall-webster7598 the horse was under control before the out rider got involved. The jokey was in control and didn’t need any help. He had the horses turned and headed back. Then, Notso macho showed up to get his face on camera. Review the tape. All is well until Notso crowds the horse.

  • @Impure2
    @Impure2 2 роки тому +101

    The people criticizing this have obviously never ponied a racehorse

    • @kellydukerschein5340
      @kellydukerschein5340 2 роки тому +4

      @@jeffj6815 7 million races? Wow

    • @lindakienle531
      @lindakienle531 2 роки тому

      I've been around racehorses abd they are so grained up,sugar high they don't know daybor night. Then they get punished for something man is causing. What bs.

    • @lindakienle531
      @lindakienle531 2 роки тому +1

      Watch the horses body language. He was shaking his head to get the rider off his face/mouth. You can rah rah rage the trainers but THEY are the problem
      If seen what happens when a high strung race horse is taken off of the track. Blow out their feet from too much sugar,not a gradual withdrawal, then euthanized.

    • @carolynstewart8465
      @carolynstewart8465 2 роки тому +3

      Absolutely! Out riders have a very dangerous job with amped up horses!

    • @timbledsoe6737
      @timbledsoe6737 2 роки тому

      @@jeffj6815 maybe that’s why he’s the only horse that won

  • @stephanielopina4232
    @stephanielopina4232 2 роки тому +20

    This horse is a stallion hyped up on adrenaline. He’s having a grand ol time. This horse is fine. It was being naughty and putting everyone in a dangerous situation. I’m sure he felt a knock but he’ll be living in the lap of luxury for the rest of his days. In the horse world people know how dominance is challenged. If you’re in it you know.

  • @suemyles2257
    @suemyles2257 2 роки тому +77

    The outrider deserves a medal. He never let go of the stallions reins. Kept his cool. Defended his pony, himself and Rich Strike. If RS got loose the damage to him, humans and other horses would have been extreme. PETA can go pound sand.

    • @84mikerider
      @84mikerider 2 роки тому +1

      People who haven't been around horses at all do not understand how powerful and dangerous they are. Especially thoroughbreds that have one goal in mind. They are much like powerlifters when it comes to competition and will completely destroy themselves if not kept in check. I agree 100% here. Also without racing this breed would die out so for sure PETA can pound sand for that matter.

    • @Wrangler13MWZ
      @Wrangler13MWZ 2 роки тому

      agreed

  • @ellemichelle261
    @ellemichelle261 2 роки тому +30

    Kicking and biting is the language of the horse. Everyone has a melt down when a human gives a horse a couple bops. (He wasn’t throwing boxer like jabs, let’s keep it real.) He hit him just enough for rich strike to think he should reconsider his actions. Let’s not forget: It’s a stud. (On another note: You can’t really see the punches. I’m wondering if the outrider was shanking him, not punching him. 🤔)

    • @brucewayne3602
      @brucewayne3602 2 роки тому +5

      absolutely ... the outrider did what should have been done with the "over exuberant horse" !!!

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому

      Should’ve punched the outrider off his pony.

  • @lmckay1807
    @lmckay1807 2 роки тому +56

    Well said. One thing that I didn't hear mentioned was what kind of injuries could have been inflicted on Rich Strike had the horse ponying him decided it had had enough with Rich Strikes' behavior and kicked him. Undoubtedly a dangerous situation that had the potential to become even more dangerous if Rich Strike got even more unruly.

    • @penelopelopez8296
      @penelopelopez8296 2 роки тому +8

      Rich Strike was pulling up for his jockey just fine…he didn’t need any assistance or a pony to help him. Horse and jockey could have trotted back on their own. It was not necessary for that pony to escort him. The whole thing was completely unnecessary.

    • @Luvtallhorses
      @Luvtallhorses 2 роки тому +18

      @@penelopelopez8296 they were setting up to interview the jockey the way they always do. The racehorse just didn't cooperate so the interview never happened. The outrider had only seconds to respond to the situation and he did an excellent job. Can really tell which comments come from real life experience with young racehorses and which ones don't. It's not pony club

    • @melliott333
      @melliott333 2 роки тому +3

      @@penelopelopez8296 It's standard procedure. Racehorses don't take themselves back to the stable.

    • @melannjohnston7506
      @melannjohnston7506 Рік тому

      @@melliott333 or the winners circle in the case.

  • @stevepennington2023
    @stevepennington2023 2 роки тому +4

    The horse Isn't hurt. Leave that Outrider alone he took care of his business and gained control of the situation.

    • @rambol1979
      @rambol1979 2 роки тому

      No the Jockey cannot pull right because the escort guy holds the leash on left you are a not educated to realize that you are a bad woman commentator

  • @krklath3
    @krklath3 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you for explaining the video in detail. I myself am not familiar with horses or horse racing. Seeing the video without explanation I was severally concerned witnessing Rich Strike being handle so aggressively. My career is medicine so I know how sometimes decisions have to be made quickly when emergencies arise. I hope this situation helps the racing organization to implement changes in the future.

  • @U2CTRU2ME
    @U2CTRU2ME 2 роки тому +36

    I see some reasons why the suggestions you made did not happen.
    1.rider turn RS head away with his right rein. The idea is one person at a time controls the horse. If Sonny had done as you say it would have gotten RS head away from outrider and pony by turning his left hind into them. Setting up a kick /bolt situation. As well taking control away from the outrider. Better to have a head in hand than a tail not.
    2. I think RS is hard to pony at best. In the post parade the pony girl was replaced by an outrider by the time they turned for the gate.
    3. A second pony on the outside is never done. No out. More dangerous than what was seen here for everyone.
    4. Timing is everything. As others have said the short time given trying to accommodate a TV interview got in the way of RS galloping out as is normal.
    5. A loose horse is a horse without a rider. So RS would not be a loose horse because he was mounted.
    6. And lastly RS is handled with a lip chain as far as I can see and may go after anything (Person lead rope hay net )without that distraction.
    Young horses, lots and f pressure, a list of criteria, and priorities. No one wins 1.6 million dollars for a well behaved racehorse.Work arounds are the rule.
    I say forget the TV interview on horseback and let the horses and staff handle their jobs normally. Thank you for the footage.

    • @WordsMusicHorses
      @WordsMusicHorses 2 роки тому +4

      Thanks for bringing that up about the TV interviewer. Donna Brothers is a pro and she backed off when she saw Rich Strike wasn't having it this day! She was in a similar situation with Secret Oath after the Kentucky Oaks on Friday, especially when the outrider tried to get Secret Oath to go from the main track to the turf track where a winner's circle was formed. The filly had never done that and freaked out a bit. She also would have NO PART of putting a garland of lilies over her shoulders, and her handlers gave up after a second try. Even as she's walking back, you can see Secret Oath giving a side-eye to the person carrying the flowers, as if she's thinking: don't even think of putting that white panther on my back!

    • @U2CTRU2ME
      @U2CTRU2ME 2 роки тому +1

      I didn’t know about the filly. Good info. Remember when Justified leveled the winner‘s circle reacting to that spray of rose petals?
      Oh my❣️

    • @terrilewis172
      @terrilewis172 2 роки тому

      @@U2CTRU2ME loop

  • @budnspud
    @budnspud 2 роки тому +42

    I just heard that the fellow trying to control him was hurt on his leg and arms from the bites. It's a hard job and he protected the horse from breaking away and getting hurt.

    • @mrskatscratch9452
      @mrskatscratch9452 2 роки тому +3

      well he should have let another outsider take over for him when it first started happening. clearly he just didn't want to lose his place in the spotlight

    • @mrskatscratch9452
      @mrskatscratch9452 2 роки тому +2

      that's what he gets for not letting another outsider help him with the situation. I still say he just didn't want to give up his place in the spotlight.

    • @MT-if1jr
      @MT-if1jr 2 роки тому

      You’re making a fool out of yourself -just shut up

  • @kevinbrathwaite6019
    @kevinbrathwaite6019 2 роки тому +60

    He did a good job in the situation i applaud him , And to those who said he should be fired why don't you go try do what he is doing and then see how you handle it .

    • @tanyarobinson2098
      @tanyarobinson2098 2 роки тому +9

      Oh they only ride computer chairs!! But are somehow knowledgeable about everything & more than willing to be judge, jury & executioner.

    • @marcusharrigan6879
      @marcusharrigan6879 2 роки тому +6

      Trolls don't ride horses. In fact, troll don't do anything but fret over their acne or red hair.

    • @1suitcasesal
      @1suitcasesal 2 роки тому +2

      Agree 100%

    • @heatherkeebler8710
      @heatherkeebler8710 2 роки тому +1

      100% agree--I think horses are less known for that bite-but it HURTS. Got casual tacking before a show and and one whipped around and took a chunk from my ribs. I can feel the bite when he goes for the leg, I’ve also seen wounds when horses take a chunk from one another. When he reaches for the whithers I’m cringing…. Rich strike is definitely still in race mode+ young tb, at the KENTUCKY DERBY-my god, some of these hot horses play the game of boogie man with the garbage can that’s been in the same area of the arena. Truly it’s a matter of safety when it comes down to it-some days you just need to get the job done, regardless of how it looks. It can absolutely be devastatingly bad if otherwise not controlled. The consequence is the as risky as the situation -look at teddy who got loose and slipped out on pavement resulting in his euthanasia, at home, being bathed. If he were home, in a ring, no people, no escape route, yeah, jump off, lunge him and that’s it. It’s fine… here the jockey has no position to get the horse under control, and the pony is responsible for being the aid. Considering he’s on another horse actively being bitten-how that horse reacts could also be end up the consequence-not only if he gets loose, but what if the pony ends up kicking or reacting back, injuring rich strike.. this is the least concerning track “incident” or practice, frankly. Think the rider did what anyone in his position would do that knew a damn about horses.

    • @evaosteenallen7957
      @evaosteenallen7957 2 роки тому

      I knew as soon as I saw the footage the Animal Rights Activists would be all over it! SMH! I've been on horseback since before I can remember. At 6-years-old I was formally taking English riding lessons and immediately started showing hunter-jumper classes. Then at 14-years-old, my Dad got me into a local 4H group. At the first Western Pleasure show, I was entered on a horse we leased for that show. He was a high strung Quater Horse gelding that I had only ridden twice to prep for the show. At the show, after the Halter class, we were in (where I won 2nd) we took the time to breath. By the time we were getting him saddled up and I was about to go way out in the field away from anyone to warm him up (which meant letting him run, not lope a nice circle, he had no slow lope in him. A free runner is what they call a horse like him) I was supposed to just let him run himself down to the point of exhaustion so he would walk into the Western Pleasure class and when asked to lope by the judges he just picked up a perfect slow lope with his head down, or level with his spine. Well we killed it! I walked out with 1st place and my Dad bought him by the next weekend. Finally after marriage and my son, who was about 4 when I got back on my gelding and started running barrels. His true calling! I was about 24-25-years-old, which put him at 13-14-years-old. He was and still to this day the most loyal and faithful male in my life. He passed in 2007 with what we believe was a slow leak into the heart chamber. My Vet lives right next door but was gone out of town roping at the time. My point in going through my whole story here is so whoever reads this will understand how much he meant to me. He's is layed to rest back behind my barn, marked off so I can one day be cremated and placed within a foot of him.
      Even throughout all the days he was here with me I can honestly tell you that there were times that I had to pop him in the nostril, use my whip on him, and also get in his mouth with the long-shank pontoon training bit. Which can be a very harsh bit especially to the roof of his mouth. I'm a very light-handed rider so he wasn't in pain from its use, until he had gotten so hot as soon as he heard my name being called within a few riders ahead of us. There was more than one occasion that as soon as I would as calmly as possible start to walk him towards the run-out, with that hot running blood he would literally try to take off full speed long before we could get in the alleyway. If I even said easy, and barely touch the rain in any way that slowed him down well, I'll put it like this. He would immediately back up one step then start spinning a hole to China!!! He was not and never did cooperate with an easy entrance. So the bite for jacking his jaw, my spurs which I had to rubber band my boots into my stirrups because if I didn't by the time we got done with that little disagreement and he would take off to the first barrel, I wouldn't have either foot in a stirrup. That in itself was difficult enough considering how hard he ran. People knew his name without knowing me at all. He was a character. He would literally grunt loud enough leaving each barrel to get back to top speed in one stride that anyone standing anywhere near the arena could hear him...!
      But what these "large animal ignorant" people don't understand is that the average person say me at my 5'3 tall and my weight ranged between 130 lbs then dropped to 100 lbs. for quite a few years before he passed. He was a little over 15 hands and fluctuated between 850-1000 lbs. (He was a cribber when my Dad bought him for me). Believe me, I have always understood the shift in power when a horse is trying to get away with something they know they shouldn't be doing. My Vet next door would I've ridden his horses for him, also helped him tease many mare's into season for shipped semen AI. And had to hold the mare's being bread by his young stud who had just started mounting and breading as a five-year-old. I watched my Vet start letting him tease some of his customers mare's in. He's a huge proponent of the concept of letting the mare act however she wants, whether it's striking at the stud, turning to kick the stud, biting at the stud. His stud horses job is to "go easy and talk to her", then he'd say oh better back up she's gonna get ya, then he would tell his stud okay now talk to her, talk he rite out of he britches" . His older stud was a master. With a mare completely giving in turning her butt to him and squirting all over him and the stud would be totally erect and slobbering all over. He could literally see the mare was ready to be palpated obviously, so he would hand that stud horse to his 5or6 year old son and tell him to take him over to eat some grass with just his plain Halter and (no-chain) nylon cotton lead rope and that studhorse never thought about that mare again. He knew his job and what was expected of him. He would not even call to a mare at a roping or home if he had his Halter on and a person leading him. No from his stall or his paddock loose he could call to them and act all bowed up and be prancing for them. Bur the moment someone came to his paddock gate a feed time to go in the barn. He was a perfect gentleman.
      The point is, what these animal rights activist don't understand is, from my Vets mouth "when a horse does something wrong whether it's even your in there back or you just leading them to the pasture (and say they are young and try to nip up) you have between 3 to 5 (at the longest) seconds to react and correct. These are usually 1,000-pound animals. It's going to take a pop, a smack on the butt or leg if they try stepping all over you. If we as the owners don't take some quick effective steps within the 5-second time frame that gets their attention to correct their behavior, then we are not creating horses that can be at rodeos or barrel races or anywhere in public without putting innocent people, children, other horses at risk.
      I think the outrider did his job. It's that simple. I don't know if people missed it in this video as well, but when the pony horse reared up on his back feet twice in a row it was mostly because Rich Strike has the pony horses rein in his teeth, so as the outrider tries to take it back Rich Strike is basically in a tug of war with the outrider. Leading to the rearing up by the pony-horse. This could have resulted,(and has in the past), in the pony horse being flipped over backward, then Rich Strike running loose, and who knows what would have happened. On the other hand, I think as soon as the other outrider offered to help and was clearly ready with a lead rope in hand, at that point the original outrider should have welcomed the help. If anything it looked to me like two little kids (meaning Rich Strike and the outrider) in a battle of who's gonna win. Which did shock me. When it first happened as I was watching I saw the bit or nip to the other horses neck/ or whithers area, almost like he wanted the pony horse you come to play but then he realized he had to get the rains from the outrider, then Rich Strike looking like a hard-headed kid, the same as the outrider did, especially when he refused help from the other outrider.
      I do not think he should lose his job over it. Not at all. Maybe just a class on "pick your battles wisely with the 3-year-olds & 2-year-olds, especially during one of the most televised and recorded races of the year!

  • @goforwand31
    @goforwand31 2 роки тому +18

    What this video doesn't show is HOW bad the injuries were to the rider's pony. His shoulder was torn up and the rider got bit as well. They were some SERIOUSLY hard bites. This sire line is notorious for acting like this, going back to his grand sire Smart Strike (who is also his dam sire). A double bred of this hot blood was bound to be a recipe ripe for biting. He's also a stallion, although mares and geldings are not immune either. The outrider had little to work with other than smacking him on the nose, it's not like he can reach behind him while trying to guide two horses at once. His own pony nearly flipped over from the assault Rich Strike flung on him. These outriders are highly trained and skilled (ever see one of them chase down a loose horse at high speed and still grab them before they get injured or crash through a fence?) riders. The fact he held onto Rick Strike and managed to maintain control of his own horse without being tossed is simply amazing. Horses are unpredictable by nature, it's their fight or flight response that sometimes create havoc. Even the most bombproof horse can spook sometimes out of the blue (I have one that spooks at flashlights for instance). The shank the rider got and attached solved the problems, it just took a while to get it. As someone mentioned below, flanking the horse would have been even worse as he could have resorted to kicking and bucking and that could have been really disastrous. As for drug testing, the entire field gets tested. His connections are well known small timers in the horse industry and have never been known for anything related to drugs.

    • @kferrigno768
      @kferrigno768 2 роки тому +1

      Excellent summarizing! I, too, have worked thoroughbred tracks for years. I particularly appreciate your reference to bloodline traits for this horse. No wonder he was so unruly! Personally, I would've thought him to be exhausted after the race he ran, lol!
      Thank you for your considerate and accurate assessment of the situation. The only people screaming "abuse" are those who have never experienced handling high-charged horses and have no idea what they're talking about. There's an old saying that applies here: "The empty barrel makes the most noise rolling down a hill".
      Thank you again! Understanding is always key, and I appreciate it!

    • @sherriebyrd3784
      @sherriebyrd3784 2 роки тому +1

      Perfect summary. The inbreeding lines makes for some hot blooded animals. These professionals know what they are doing. The situation was controlled end of story. Back to celebrating the awesome performance of the race.

    • @KimikoCat
      @KimikoCat 2 роки тому

      Rich Strike is not (as far as I can tell) descended from Northern Dancer, but he might have the same temperament. The Dancer was such an alpha male that when he was turned out in his paddock to graze or exercise, his grooms had to make sure he couldn't even SEE another stallion, or he'd go berserk.

  • @angiew1841
    @angiew1841 2 роки тому +10

    Really well said Lyndsey, agree with everything you said, in the U.K. we don’t have our racehorses ponied so we don’t have this type of problem.

    • @michelebourke4340
      @michelebourke4340 2 роки тому +1

      same in nz, i've never seen such ott micro-management. it's just smacks of low horsemanship skills. here, as in the uk, i imagine the idea of 1 stable worker catching 3 racehorses in a paddock n bringing them into their boxes simultaneously for the night (as is the norm) just gobsmacked an american equine student. in america, it's 2 people per horse..n that was out of a lil pokey yard, not a paddock.... for one person being able to lead 3 horses together was beyond capabilities in the states. for sure group or stakes winners were usually a tad more care-given.

  • @bonitasmith8880
    @bonitasmith8880 2 роки тому +37

    As someone who has worked with Thoroughbred racehorses, and studs too, this outrider was completely correct. If he HAD accepted the help, and gotten a lead on the other side, that stallion would have went berserk. The outriders horse had a couple of plugs taken out of his shoulder and neck. I praise the pony for still doing its job after being attacked!
    This outrider managed to get as much control as he possibly could over this goofy horse.
    Also the Derby winner wasn't really being mean, his ears weren't flat. He was just being a rambunctious toddler who didn't really know any better and was irritated because he still wanted to run. Nobody would let him, so he threw a temper tantrum LOL
    PRAISES to the outrider and his awesome horse!♥️

    • @imnotabotrlyimnot
      @imnotabotrlyimnot 2 роки тому +5

      I know nothing about horse racing, just wondering. Why don't they just allow the ones that want to to keep running till they calm down? Will they run themselves to a heart attack or something?

    • @Luvtallhorses
      @Luvtallhorses 2 роки тому +6

      Yes it was a tantrum for sure but a 1200 pound tantrum and at times a desperate situation. All respect to the Outrider

    • @susanmanley1029
      @susanmanley1029 2 роки тому +12

      @@imnotabotrlyimnot because a loose horse can get hurt or hurt others. When they are like that they can decide to buck off the jockey. You need to get them into a controlled jog to get the energy out.

    • @amykahila575
      @amykahila575 2 роки тому +1

      @@imnotabotrlyimnot a horse getting loose in that situation could hurt other horses, people, property, themselves....

    • @tellmestraight
      @tellmestraight 2 роки тому +1

      @@susanmanley1029 Thank you for this reply.

  • @toddcunningham3213
    @toddcunningham3213 2 роки тому +11

    Been around horses for 30+ years. Horses aren't people, but they damn sure have emotions. Rich Strike knew what he did by winning. That wasn't his lead pony, and he wasn't being violent, he was excited! They should've left him alone and let him calm himself, before trying to grab him, or at least had his own pony out there.
    My daughter is reining World Champion Goat Tying Champion btw.

    • @johnlvs2run
      @johnlvs2run 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly. Thank you.

    • @Dreamer-by4nk
      @Dreamer-by4nk 2 роки тому +1

      Thankyou I agree. I’ve jumped horses for years and hitting a horse in the face is not doing a damn thing. The horse was feeling good after the race and decided to be a stinker. Pony boy should of let him loose and let the jockey calm him. Horses react differently and if you know any thing about them,this was handled very poorly.

  • @mailitedd185
    @mailitedd185 2 роки тому +16

    Your analysis is excellent. People don't realize how aggressively horses often treat each other. This outrider is not being abusive. He is actually using the least amount of force necessary to keep everyone safe.

  • @peterzito1372
    @peterzito1372 2 роки тому +40

    Alot of critics jump the gun and think they see the whole picture he did a great job of keeping rich strike a colt full of natural adrenaline and excitement from injuring lead pony and himself and not to mention jockey your right in your views of this incident

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому +1

      Lmao. No. All he had to do was let the horse go.

  • @Nikoleisa10
    @Nikoleisa10 2 роки тому +13

    Rich Strike also bite/pulled the pony horse rein when they were making that first circle the pony rider was trying to pull his rein back.

  • @Whateverhasbeenmynameforyears
    @Whateverhasbeenmynameforyears 2 роки тому +5

    As an experienced horse person (15+ if it matters) it took me a couple times looking at the video to see that the race horse had ahold of the pony horse. My frustration was that his horse was not helping him and he should not have had to fight his own horse at the same time but I think there were times that the race horse had the rein and we could not see it with the grainy footage. I know for a fact that he did once and you could only see the rein in his mouth for a split second before it disappeared into the grainyness again. So there might be more of that happening than we can see as well.

    • @shilohfarm1
      @shilohfarm1 2 роки тому

      the outriders horse did an amazing job as well. he was missing hide when it was over with and in spite of the attack he stayed as steady as he was able.

  • @ronradmer3573
    @ronradmer3573 2 роки тому +23

    I have ponied many many horses in my life. And this Outrider did a great job. But, in that situation, I would have turned the horse loose and not ponied it at all. It looked like the horse wanted to walk on its own and not be crowded. So as a pony rider, you have to be able to see that a horse is better off being left alone and that the Jockey is better off doing it alone.

    • @juliajohnson5276
      @juliajohnson5276 2 роки тому +8

      Ron, my sentiments exactly. That stallion didn’t want to be led around by that man. Problem would have been solved if the outrider had just let go of Rich Strike, and let him bask in the glory. The jockey could handle him better without that that old man trying to get in the middle of it.

    • @Wrangler13MWZ
      @Wrangler13MWZ 2 роки тому +1

      your mistaken a stallions #1 drive is procreation #2 fighting off competition from that (#1 goal). then #3 eating that loose stallion could have injured a few more horses and jockeys buy running free. Have seen wild stallions fight. Also seen a stud reach out and pick up a grown man buy the collar bone and area and throw a grown man 3 feet through the air crushing his shoulder blade and tearing skin, flesh, muscle. Making it look like hamburger.

    • @juliajohnson5276
      @juliajohnson5276 2 роки тому

      @@Wrangler13MWZ , have you thought about using punctuation at the end of a sentence and correct word Usage and spelling? Then maybe, people wouldn’t have to use a decoder to figure out what you are saying.🧐

    • @marlenestewart7442
      @marlenestewart7442 2 роки тому +2

      @@juliajohnson5276 It was all about getting Rich Strike to the NBC interview, Reed said as much.

    • @chriswesterfield2042
      @chriswesterfield2042 2 роки тому

      super common sense, please run for President in 2024, we need a President with a brain.

  • @danamontagnese6063
    @danamontagnese6063 2 роки тому +73

    Armchair jockeys who are not around horses much, or even those who are, don't realize just how big and strong these animals are. Combine that with the adrenaline of having just completed a race, and you have a potentially dangerous situation which the outrider successfully avoided. Could it have been handled differently? Yes. But Rich Strike was NOT abused, he just needed firm handling. I'd like to see what a clueless animal rights activist would do in the same situation. On second thought, no. It would be a disaster.

    • @robertragland394
      @robertragland394 2 роки тому +11

      Rich Strike didn't need any ponyrider at all..!!!
      How often do race horses get a pony rider after the race ? Like never unless it's in one of these huge races..Just let Jockey gallop his horse back to the winners circle on his own...

    • @susanwest2522
      @susanwest2522 2 роки тому

      @@robertragland394 thank you for your wise, and common sense comment!

    • @OldTimerDave
      @OldTimerDave 2 роки тому +12

      @@robertragland394 I beg to differ. I have run at alot of small tracks that no one ever heard of and we always used a pony horse. They are essential. The only thing these colts know is to run. They dont know how to rein. The Jockeys actually have very little control over those horses. That is the outriders job is to get control of the horse.

    • @Luvtallhorses
      @Luvtallhorses 2 роки тому +6

      They were setting up the jockey interview. How many of these opinionaters have ever even watched the derby before?

    • @deannabryan68
      @deannabryan68 2 роки тому +3

      @@robertragland394 it was probably the owner who ordered him to be taken where he wanted him. People can own horses and not know shit about fuck.

  • @goatgirl5968
    @goatgirl5968 2 роки тому +53

    Every jockey who wins a triple crown race is interviewed right after by someone else on horseback. Everyone was just trying to do the usual thing and usually no big deal. But Rich Strike wasn't in the loop on that. They should have backed off and let him go. But once he had the pony's rein in his teeth, the outrider did the best he could to protect himself and his pony. I'm sure in retrospect they'd do it differently but in the heat of the moment I am sure it made sense to just manage the situation as well as possible. And nothing that outrider could do from horseback was going to do any damage to the horse. Some of the comments about this are ridiculous.

    • @marcicawley7456
      @marcicawley7456 2 роки тому +6

      It would have been a terrible idea to just let him go. He might have gone after another horse, other people, the jockey could have been thrown and then he would have been loose which would have been 1000 times worse. The trainer has even said his horse was in "killer mode" and still had the competition mindset and he felt the outrider save his horse from potential injury. This wasn't a pretty situation but this outrider is one of the best in the business and he himself got the crap bit out of him several times by this horse. You let a horse go after behaving like that and you reinforce that bad behavior.

    • @johnsamson798
      @johnsamson798 2 роки тому

      and so is yours.

    • @naomiroyle9637
      @naomiroyle9637 2 роки тому

      @@johnsamson798 Now that was uncalled for.

  • @Munjeeomma
    @Munjeeomma 2 роки тому +45

    If stallions aren't mannered they will be very aggressive and can do maximum damage in a minimum amount of time. Having dealt with horses for over 50 years they can be dangerous and this could have had a very different and detrimental outcome had the rider not been as experienced. Cancel culture idiots need to understand the situation before running their mouths. They are the idiots who would walk up to a wild horse thinking they could be friends with it and get the heck bit and kicked out of them.

    • @Noblemiss
      @Noblemiss 2 роки тому +2

      That's so true about idiots. But remember. Rick Strike is not a stallion yet. not for another year, he is still a "teenaged" colt.

    • @pattylouabbott8920
      @pattylouabbott8920 2 роки тому

      I DON'T SUPPORT RODEOS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT THINK THE ONLY WAY IS TO CAUSE PAIN TO TRAIN......THAT HORSE IS 3 YRS OLD AND WHAT WAS DONE TO THE PONY HORSE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE

    • @racheldavey2207
      @racheldavey2207 2 роки тому +1

      I have to agree with you. We've had a couple stallions and if you don't take them in hand it can be dangerous if they don't understand who's in charge and aren't taught manners. That being said the pony horse should have had a cover on its neck to protect it. The guy should not be punished for disciplining the horse. You people who thought he was being cruel no nothing about young stallions if you think that's the case.

    • @heidichristensen7919
      @heidichristensen7919 2 роки тому

      Not cancel culture (a stupid nonsensical phrase). A bunch of people who have no idea about horses.

  • @robinj6831
    @robinj6831 2 роки тому +21

    Take a listen to the trainer's comments on this. You are 100% right. "Ritchie", he said, had never had an outrider and did not know how to react when the pony came running up next to him, and that he was still in 'race mode'. Thanks for posting this - hopefully the social media morons who know nothing of horses, in particular a hot 2 year old TB will take a trip to shutty town..

    • @okarnillokarnill975
      @okarnillokarnill975 2 роки тому +2

      ah I thought so, and he's a stallion. I don't know why the US has outriders at all, it would have been better all round if the outrider had just let the horse go and the jockey (who was, I agree, Utterly useless there) had taken him back.Does it break a rule if they aren't 'ponied' in? I've never understood why, over in the UK the jockeys are all expected to cope with their horses no matter what.

    • @melliott333
      @melliott333 2 роки тому +2

      @Gannon Moseley "if you don't give dominant energy they will dominate you!" Absolutely right they will, especially high on adrenaline thoroughbred stallions.

    • @melliott333
      @melliott333 2 роки тому +1

      @Gannon Moseley If you have a nipping horse, and you don't address it, it will continue. In the case of a Derby winner, they may not take any measures.....but rest assured, he will keep on biting.

    • @vikkihall-webster7598
      @vikkihall-webster7598 2 роки тому

      I think not being used to an outrider could be key to explaining Richie's behavior. Good point.

    • @michelebourke4340
      @michelebourke4340 2 роки тому

      @Gannon Moseley n just what do you think this has now taught rich strike about pony riders coming alongside in the future????

  • @bohatfield6219
    @bohatfield6219 2 роки тому +10

    Greg Blaise, the outrider, is the best outrider in the business and there is nobody else that could have handled that situation as well as he did. Period! Any one that sits back and judges him and his actions probably has never had any experience anywhere near this situation.

  • @over40pain-freeviolaplayin54
    @over40pain-freeviolaplayin54 2 роки тому +41

    Great analysis. On a channel that described the incident as abuse, I wrote that the outrider was doing the best he could in a dangerous situation. I explianed a few things that were going on, and described how once an agitated horse ran over to where I was standing and bit me, even though I was standing about two feet away from the fence and on the outside of his paddock (luckily it was on the arm, and the bite did not damage any muscles). I went back to the site, and I was going to add a link to your analysis, but the page (with 19K views) had turned off the comment section. I guess they didn't like my perspective.

    • @jimmyyounger618
      @jimmyyounger618 2 роки тому +1

      Irritating that UA-cam took away the down vote count because it was helpful to decide if content was worth watching, but the next best thing to watch for is a closed comment section. The closing of a comment section is particularly aggravating after people have put in some amount of work to comment. The experience and citations people have bothered to hunt up and place in quotes are just *gone* because the channel's author didn't have a spine? Exasperating and hazardous - hazardous in that some won't question misinformation and make dangerous or costly mistakes as a result of that channel's censorship. I've seen comments closed after someone provided paragraphs of emergency medical protocol from a variety of expertly qualified, verifiable sources, as well as citations of the building code in another case.

    • @abrahamvicente8013
      @abrahamvicente8013 2 роки тому

      I been ponde horses before in this business no matter how bad and crazy is the horse a pony a pony never it should be rear up.
      Here when I watched the race gosh I was feel like tha pony going to flip over that’s was really scaredy for me this guy he should get fired now
      Got off

    • @jerrygriffin6411
      @jerrygriffin6411 2 роки тому +10

      The outrider horses as a rule are incredibly well trained!
      Let’s think about your comment
      If a mosquito bites you you slap it without thinking!
      It’s a natural reflex Action.
      If YOU Suddenly bitten on your neck without warning, I believe that you would duck and try to get away as fast as you could!
      When this Well trained Outriders horse got bitten on the his neck he reacted just like any sane person would with reflexive actions. BUT he IS Well Trained and even after being Savaged responded to his writer, and leaned back into the horse and helped the outrider control him.
      If you would go back and watch the horses being led over to the paddock, you will see that they have the lead chain going through the halter ring under the horses lip and fastened to the outside of the halter this puts chain against the top gums of the horse and able to control them! All that the outrider had was a strip of leather it didn’t even have a snap on it it was through the horses but.
      That is Virtually NO CONTROL in comparison to a “lip chain” of an animal who is taking Bites out of you And your horse.
      The suggestion that the Outrider should be fired, could only be made by someone who is never been bitten or handled an unruly horse.
      Please remember: a horse has the ability kill you with any part of its body!

    • @jimmyyounger618
      @jimmyyounger618 2 роки тому +1

      @@jerrygriffin6411 Well said. A reflex is an entirely separate matter from behavior in this context - not something that can be trained away or controlled by the rider. The reaction to the stimulus isn't even processed at the prefrontal cortex where thinking occurs, but in areas often referred to as reptilian where instantaneous reaction determines survival.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому

      Lol. It was only dangerous bc the outrider would not let go.

  • @jamiecasey9800
    @jamiecasey9800 2 роки тому +5

    He is a Stallion. A Stallion still amped up after a great run. These forced attempts are unfortunate but necessary for the safety of the horses and riders. The official did his job. And this is most likely not the horses normal demeanor.He is a Champion and will always be remembered OMG!

  • @anikomillan7290
    @anikomillan7290 2 роки тому

    Great explanation and analysis of this situation. Well done

  • @DS-ky9dl
    @DS-ky9dl 2 роки тому +28

    It looks like a lot happened all at once. It was slowed down for us to see, but in real time it must have been frantic. The outrider is responsible for keeping the horse under control for the safety of all concerned. You are absolutely right.

    • @susiewright9909
      @susiewright9909 2 роки тому +1

      There were 19 other horses ' loose'. Why is ONLY the winner wrangled and forced to walk. Be real please. A danger?

    • @smack9516
      @smack9516 2 роки тому +5

      @@susiewright9909 I’d punch the horse to if it continuously kept trying to bite me & my horse. It’s called discipline.

    • @weberroger1
      @weberroger1 2 роки тому

      @@smack9516 same here. I guess its all ok with these liberals to beat the heck out of the horse with a whip during the race but a smack in the face by a human hand is truly horrible? What a joke.

    • @MarathonManPeatMoss
      @MarathonManPeatMoss 2 роки тому +2

      @@susiewright9909 "Why is ONLY the winner wrangled and forced to walk." So that Donna Brothers can get a 30 second interview with Sonny Leon. Seriously, that is the only reason the horse was not allowed to gallop out on his own and the jockey bring him back when ready. It was all for TV and no one had the sense to call it off when the horse wanted no part of it. *Pre-emptive statement for all the self-proclaimed experts on here: I have an animal sciences degree with an equine emphasis and used to work in racing.

  • @craigcode7103
    @craigcode7103 2 роки тому +19

    1. The outrider did an excellent job controlling the situation once it started to get out of hand.
    2. The outrider caused the whole situation by rushing to pony a high strung 3y old stallion that is high on racing adrenaline. Rich Strike was not given time to gallop out and was not out of control until being rushed up on, and I suspect, didn't appreciate being ponied.
    3. I know why the outrider did what he did, it was to appease the television bigwigs and keep up with their airtime scheduling. (Interviews)
    4. I believe the safety of the people and animals involved in such an event is way more important than T.V. scheduling.

    • @WuLi4B
      @WuLi4B 2 роки тому +4

      Really! Well there you go. Not given time to gallop out is the ultimate cause, at least in my opinion. I pretty much thought that was SOP. Whoever made that decision..........maybe they should be fired. The outrider could have been just doing what he had been instructed to do. Whoever instructed his to do that should now be a former employee. If the outrider took it upon himself to do that, he should be the former employee as of just about now. That horse was PUMPED and wanted to keep on racing.

    • @i.m.askance7996
      @i.m.askance7996 2 роки тому +4

      Craig Code, I agree with you on both points. The start was 5 minutes later than the scheduled post time, and that's probably why the outrider was hurrying to get Rich Strike pulled up. I can't remember a horse not being allowed to gallop out, slow down to a walk, and then stop. That's when the outrider should have approached Rich Strike.

    • @craigcode7103
      @craigcode7103 2 роки тому +1

      @@i.m.askance7996 exactly

    • @HannahD353
      @HannahD353 2 роки тому +2

      Your number 3 point is spot on. In Britain we don’t pony at all and rarely have problems going to post, or post race, because the horse is given time to decompress before heading for the enclosures. The pony rider, imho, caused and escalated the problem, as you state, perhaps to keep to the tv schedule? Thank goodness all ended well, apart from, no doubt, some bruising on riders leg and the poor pony’s neck.

    • @cindycox9361
      @cindycox9361 2 роки тому

      Rushing and scheduling? Aren’t most horses picked up on the first turn after being galloped out? Aren’t interviews conducted as they come back around that first turn? What made this horse any different than the other stallions coming back around the first turn? Your supposition that the outrider caused the problem does not hold water when looking at the large majority of horses returning to winners circle.

  • @Kay-ki7qs
    @Kay-ki7qs 2 роки тому +1

    You are completely right with the analysis, a lot of people that are in a tizzy with this, has never even been around horses or even delt with a stallion.

  • @Ema4life1001
    @Ema4life1001 2 роки тому +22

    For people who have never been bit by a horse, it’s no joke and it’s really painful. I exercised racehorses at a track when I was younger and I do think the outrider could have handled it better (the jockey too but I think he was relying on the outrider), especially when you watch Rich Strike’s cues after they turn. He was already running on massive adrenaline and the outrider agitated him more. He certainly doesn’t deserve to lose his job though.

  • @joanbenson4381
    @joanbenson4381 2 роки тому +6

    Wow, that horse got attitude; winning attitude. I love when Rich Strike was getting up to that #3 in the race, to me, it looked like he turned his head thinking, "Watch me pass you sucker!" He straightened his head out and passed with zap speed. It was amazing. Congratulations to all involved. (I have only been on a horse one time. Went with a group riding. I told the stable hand, "I want your oldest, slowest horse." I liked the field trip, until the route through the woods was over, and we came to the field, toward the stables. I guess the horses were taught to break into a run. I'm just glad I managed to stay on!!)

    • @jupeter24
      @jupeter24 2 роки тому +2

      I know, Rich Strike has got so much attitude/personality, I love it.

    • @marlenestewart7442
      @marlenestewart7442 2 роки тому +1

      I agree with your observation that RS gave the favorites "the eye" when he passed them in the stretch, and I think he was not going to put up with any other horses in his face afterwards!

  • @concepcionledezma5027
    @concepcionledezma5027 2 роки тому +21

    Keep in mind that the jockey is in the moment of experiencing the biggest moment of his professional career, so he deserves some slack here.

    • @kimames6914
      @kimames6914 2 роки тому

      No jockey who exploits a horse for money is to be cut slack. The horses cant consent!

    • @concepcionledezma5027
      @concepcionledezma5027 2 роки тому

      @@kimames6914 you're being mean to a cockroach in your house when you show cruelty to it by stepping on it!

  • @mboyd1834
    @mboyd1834 2 роки тому

    Thank you for addressing and explaining the factors of this event. A learning experience for all alike horseman/horsewoman or not. Those who are unfamiliar with handling these type situations ... Please add this information to your knowledge bank of understanding. As I watch the replay...I am. Everyone have a great weekend 😊

  • @sherryllynn1809
    @sherryllynn1809 2 роки тому +2

    I feel kind of sorry for Rich Strike, who was pushed so hard, with taped feet. I hope he made a lot of money for his owners.

    • @melannjohnston7506
      @melannjohnston7506 Рік тому

      It's not tape, it a wrap commonly used with racehorses almost like an ace wrap for human. The great Zenyatta wore them as well. I don't hurt them at all.

  • @jeffjames1746
    @jeffjames1746 2 роки тому +4

    I personally do not see any "punches". He was trying to push the horse's head away, anyone who sees more than that needs an eye exam.

  • @catherinelynnfraser2001
    @catherinelynnfraser2001 2 роки тому +10

    I understand that this was the first time the horse was “ponied”. That was probably why another pony might have made the situation more difficult to control. There are also complications another pony might have added to the situation. I am sorry the pony and rider were injured.

    • @michelebourke4340
      @michelebourke4340 2 роки тому

      he's had a few races n would have been ponied to the starts

    • @Flash3-22
      @Flash3-22 Рік тому

      Hard to believe he wasn't ponied before. Perhaps not
      after a race. But led to the starting gate for any race.

  • @colleengilroy624
    @colleengilroy624 2 роки тому

    Wow you did a great job narrating this!! You knowledge is exemplary!

  • @cowboyrose2212
    @cowboyrose2212 2 роки тому +2

    i grew up in the 50's. My pop and I had a lot of horses. Some not broke. Some green broke. Everytime a horse would get the better of me pop would say " Ya be smarter than the horse" Of course its true in a way. What ever happened here its still your fault when you are in control. You gotta know your job.

  • @sandywallis7708
    @sandywallis7708 2 роки тому +4

    When the other outrider handed Grady the lead up strap, the racehorse grabbed the pony’s reins. The racehorse jerked on the pony’s mouth hard enough to make him rear. There are permanent teeth marks left in the leather reins. So all the talk about angles and circles is bullshit, since Grady has no rein control over his horse and all he can do is shank on the racehorse, trying to make him drop the reins.

    • @marjoriecoey3418
      @marjoriecoey3418 2 роки тому

      I am glad the pony horse kept his cool and training! He was in the middle of it all.

  • @hillaryilinsky1009
    @hillaryilinsky1009 2 роки тому +4

    tough job when everyone's emotions are high , including rich strike.

  • @elizabethd8147
    @elizabethd8147 2 роки тому +1

    Finally!! An accurate representation of the facts in the case! I'm so tired of seeing just the emotional response from this! Very well portrayed and accurate assessment! I'm not sure what you're background is but it sounds like you actually know what you're talking about, not just one of these armchair "experts".

  • @WuLi4B
    @WuLi4B 2 роки тому +4

    Why didn't she mention the difference between the jockeys stirrups and the outriders stirrups? The jockey is on a racing saddle. The worst thing that could have happened would have been if the jockey feel off the horse. All bets are off then. She said he could have done a better job and been more forceful. He did great just holding on. Plus you see how small and light jockeys are. The outrider was a pretty husky guy, and he was being out muscled, and he was deep in the saddle and able to use his legs for stability. The jockey is just balanced on top of the saddle, that's it. The biggest mistake was not getting the other outrider involved. I don't know if it was an ego thing or what, but the guy was right there with a rope ready to throw over to the other guy and doubly secure the horse.

  • @seventhson27
    @seventhson27 2 роки тому +26

    The outrider kept control IN SPITE OF being bitten multiple times. Had he let go of Richie at that time, the horse was very agitated, and would have been VERY difficult to get back under control. These situations with highly-strung racehorse can go really bad in a real hurry, and horses and jockeys have been hurt, even killed as a result.

    • @marlenestewart7442
      @marlenestewart7442 2 роки тому

      I would like to know the name of the last jockey or outrider killed in a post race ponying accident. Thank you.

    • @AnthonyWilliams-sj6cm
      @AnthonyWilliams-sj6cm 2 роки тому

      @@marlenestewart7442
      Darren fortune March 22, 2021

  • @katecollins5354
    @katecollins5354 2 роки тому +4

    No one has mentioned that the out rider lost his left stirrup at one point and was very compromised by that fact and he should have been looking for help with the situation. Poor choice.

    • @vivianwinford3681
      @vivianwinford3681 2 роки тому +1

      I noticed that too. He was lucky to have not been pulled off by Rich Strike.

  • @showmeboysoutdoors2058
    @showmeboysoutdoors2058 2 роки тому +7

    It's easy to analyze and criticize while watching the video in slow motion. Cancel, cancel culture. The people who are asking for him to be fired have probably never rode a hors. As a horse owner, I know that in that moment you are going to do what needs to be done. I thought he handled it well. Rich Strike is a stud and is ready to go so you have to handle them accordingly.

  • @karenbrown2868
    @karenbrown2868 2 роки тому

    Thank you for explaining!

  • @903songs
    @903songs 2 роки тому +14

    People who are calling for the pony horse rider to be fired are just plain idiots who know zero about horses! I thought the guy did a great job.

    • @pattiwinn5217
      @pattiwinn5217 2 роки тому

      Two horses were injured. He did not do a good job!also Peta has uncovered a history of him abusing horses.

    • @lorraineclark2307
      @lorraineclark2307 2 роки тому

      @@pattiwinn5217 I’ve punched a stallion up side his head for much less. And I was only a young teen at the time. Stallion never tried to mistreat me again.

  • @patriciahead7898
    @patriciahead7898 2 роки тому +9

    I believe the other outriders was just trying to give him the lead rope so that the outrider didn't have to hold the rein. He wouldn't have ponied the horse from the right side as that would have really freaked the racehorse out and made it worse.

    • @michelebourke4340
      @michelebourke4340 2 роки тому

      he didn't have a lead rope???? this just gets more moronic!

  • @Flash3-22
    @Flash3-22 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this video. The bites Lucky Strike inflicted on his horse and the outrider were terrifying.
    I own a senior retired thoroughbred who was used as a pony horse. For some reason I mistook he would
    be a great choice for riding. Wrong. His years of working as a pony horse traumatized him. Hated being ponied
    by another horse and actually grinded his teeth when I used him once to pony another horse.

  • @dynasticlight8706
    @dynasticlight8706 2 роки тому +3

    No, harm was done .This is totally blown out of proportion.

  • @scottmiller5248
    @scottmiller5248 2 роки тому +11

    Just curious why an outrider is needed? No doubt Rich Strike was amped up from the race but if the outrider is creating more of a problem than being a help why not back of for a minute?

    • @AuntGrace
      @AuntGrace 2 роки тому +3

      My thought too - they just got finished with a big race and have all that adrenaline - let him lope a bit to cool off?

    • @amyhoffer6702
      @amyhoffer6702 2 роки тому

      @@AuntGrace likely the reason Rich Strike was not given the opportunity to get the appropriate gallop out was to have the winning jockey interviewed by Donna Brothers, who is also on horseback. Also, the reason he had the outrider - so the jockey could speak with her without concentrating on controlling the horse. I saw Donna trotting along behind them, but I don't think the interview happened due to air time getting used up.

    • @amyhoffer6702
      @amyhoffer6702 2 роки тому +1

      likely the reason Rich Strike was not given the opportunity to get the appropriate gallop out was to have the winning jockey interviewed by Donna Brothers, who is also on horseback. Also, the reason he had the outrider - so the jockey could speak with her without concentrating on controlling the horse. I saw Donna trotting along behind them, but I don't think the interview happened due to air time getting used up.

    • @Digidot1992
      @Digidot1992 2 роки тому

      They wanted to interview the jockey, Donna came up initially on her horse but backed away when she spotted the trouble. It isn’t standard practice otherwise for the horse to be ponied back.

    • @suzanneyoung8011
      @suzanneyoung8011 2 роки тому

      Besides the interview that would have happened were it not for this incident, the outrider usually parades the horse back in front of the grandstand while everyone is cheering and applauding. There are also a lot of photographers on the track snapping pictures. Then the outrider takes him toward the winner's circle in the infield and hands him off to the grooms.

  • @nezbola
    @nezbola 2 роки тому +6

    I’ve never worked with race horses, but my uncle herded and roped cattle, and both my aunt and my cousin raced barrels competitively on a national level. So, my uncle was very familiar with horses. He had several. He was also an army veteran and a State Correctional Officer who not only worked with K-9s, but also worked with an equestrian/inmate reform program. Very tough man. Very knowledgeable about horses.
    That is only relevant because, although he worked with these animals every single day of his life, both at work and in his personal life, unfortunately he was still at the mercy of the power that his horse truly possessed.
    He rode a horse at the prison as watch over working parties in the field. One day during a working party, one of the inmates attempted to flee. My uncle gave chase, and closed in on the inmate before the inmate surrendered and dropped to his belly. The horse, however, seemingly “kicked into to an unknown gear” (as my uncle said) and began to run at a remarkable rate of speed. My uncle did everything he knew how to do in order to slow or stop the horse. A barbed perimeter fence finally brought the horse to a near stop, which threw my uncle fifty feet from the horse and head first into a tree. The accident put him in a coma for a month and gave him significant head and brain trauma. He had to medically retire from the state penitentiary he worked at. He also had to learn how to walk, talk, and write again. Surprisingly, he eventually learned to ride again several years later, but never to the level he once did.
    That was 22 years ago, and thankfully my uncle lives a healthy life, but he has never been the same.
    He never once blamed his horse. Not one time. “That horse was just bein a dang horse. Maybe I should’ve just held on tighter”, he says.
    So, with that said, it still amazes me that men can hold onto these 1000lb animals running at 40mph, and it amazes me the same that these outriders can take control of these type of situations probably 98% of the time without incident. These people are greatly underrated as well as under-appreciated for the jobs they do handling these horses under such circumstances. They get my utmost respect.

    • @dianegodek5974
      @dianegodek5974 2 роки тому +1

      Absolutely agree
      This is tough job and a dangerous one at that! People who don't know horses and riding especially in extremely difficult and dangerous situations have no right commenting. They are saying that the outsider was abusive. Absolutely not! I do not like horse racing because of what it does to young horses and the fact that it is usually about the love of money and not the love of horses. Also, many non winning horses end up in slaughter houses. Many are re-homed and saved too. That being said. There wasn't any abuse in this situation. Yes, perhaps if the outsiders allowed another out rider to Also lead the race from the other side in addition to his side. It would have been better. The jockey perhaps could have helped too. Letting go of the horse might not have been good either because of how crazy this stallion was behaving. The outsider did a good job under the circumstances. The race horse was not hurt and neither was the jockey. Only the outrider and his horse was hurt! It could have been much worse! I totally agree with the assessment here. If you don't ride or know horses, please refrain from criticism!

  • @MrChippinator
    @MrChippinator 2 роки тому +17

    People who don't have experience with horses should not be commenting on horsemanship. I thought, at the time, the situation was handled well. I agree, there are definite issues with horse racing and some trainers, none of which were apparent here. I didn't see any punches, all I saw was the outrider trying to get the horse's attention. As per accepting the help of the other outrider, I believe he thought in the moment that Rich Strike might seem crowded and the situation could've been worse.

  • @Godisabsolutelygood
    @Godisabsolutelygood 2 роки тому +2

    Rick strike KNEW he was the winner and when the pony got ahead of him he didn't like that. RICH STRIKE KNEW HE WAS THE MAN OF THE HOUR and he was telling that pony "you're supposed to be behind me". He was also still amped up.

  • @UmonHon74LIFE
    @UmonHon74LIFE 2 роки тому +58

    It was an unexpected moment that started happening so fast so the outsider had to react quickly to prevent many dangerous scenarios. It was a lot going on, the Kentucky Derby just ended, the people, the ending of the race, the horses behavior seem to be created by the environment as well. I think the outsider handled the situation well.

    • @hermanfennelljr3635
      @hermanfennelljr3635 2 роки тому +6

      I've been a jockey for over fifty years,and have in this point.first the rider known he's on a stallion,he should've help some.The pony man's horse had his head up high and wasn't behaving well and the pony man had no control of both horses. The other pony man was crossing in front of the horses, confusing both horses.It was a bad moment that came out good.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому

      Lol. All the guy had to do was let the horse go. He handled this terribly.

    • @seventhson27
      @seventhson27 2 роки тому +1

      @@blackout07blue If he had let go of RS, it would have been VERY hard to get him back under control. Horse gets up in the air, throws rider and bolts, people and animals get hurt. The outrider was ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in spite of getting BITTEN several times.

    • @mariannemedina4202
      @mariannemedina4202 2 роки тому

      Nope, not impressed with the outrider. As far as I’m concerned he ( the outrider) and his poor riding skills ( as shown by his own horse being poorly controlled) and lack of proper gear contributed to the « S » show more than helping.
      Instead of a solid seat and proper hand he was flopping all over the saddle and grappling for his reins all while trying to manage a powerful racehorse.
      He was way out of his league and his lack of skill was on display. His frustrated negative energy was translated to the horses escalating the situation for everyone involved.

  • @Pawknee123
    @Pawknee123 2 роки тому +21

    Great analysis. I totally agree with everything you said. I was yelling at my TV saying “why is the jockey not tightening up the right rein, and why was there not another outrider to clip onto the right side to keep the horse centered in the middle.
    The outrider on the left did nothing wrong. I think he handled it the best he could at the time.

    • @PattiGoettlerGHSD
      @PattiGoettlerGHSD 2 роки тому +1

      Adding another outrider tied to colt would have given him enough room to go up and strike!!!!! One pony person was the correct thing to do…

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому

      Outrider was an idiot. Just let the horse go.

  • @StormGSD
    @StormGSD 2 роки тому

    Excellent analysis. Thanks for not thinking it was abusive

  • @MrRivendaleFarm
    @MrRivendaleFarm 2 роки тому +10

    Great Anaylsis Lindsey, totally agree with everything you said! It comes down to the fact that the situation had a huge potential of injury to everyone involved and the pony rider did everything he could to de-escalate the situation. Good on him.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 2 роки тому +1

      Only injury possible was due to outrider.

  • @vandemanferretstasmania.ni9576
    @vandemanferretstasmania.ni9576 2 роки тому +23

    I actually can’t dispute anything said in this video. Rich Strike is obviously a high strung stallion, jockey could have used his right reign better but the out-rider actually did a good job protecting everyone

    • @4cornernan
      @4cornernan 2 роки тому

      The outrider had too strong a grip and short rein on the left to do that.

    • @brucewayne3602
      @brucewayne3602 2 роки тому

      absolutely ... the jockey was nearly a casual bystander but this a massively emotional moment for humans & horses !!!

    • @horsetherapy3488
      @horsetherapy3488 2 роки тому

      You think kicking his own little pony which obviously the outrider was way to big for in the flanks was a good move ?

    • @horsetherapy3488
      @horsetherapy3488 2 роки тому

      Rich strike had absolutely no problems being ponied on to the track ! I understand he had just ran his heart out and definitely was not in the mood to be handled so rough from the beginning.

    • @vandemanferretstasmania.ni9576
      @vandemanferretstasmania.ni9576 2 роки тому +1

      @@horsetherapy3488 when you’ve worked with OTTs or racing thoroughbreds, then your opinion might matter to me. However I have worked at the tracks and I retrain OTTs and other breeds. The outrider is not riding a “pony”, that’s just what they’re called. Usually the “ponies” are thoroughbreds that are failed racers, or they’re thoroughbreds crossed with quarter horses.

  • @carolreising3463
    @carolreising3463 2 роки тому +13

    Until I heard your comments, I was ready to think the pony rider was inexperienced. But you said he IS very experienced which turned my thinking to the jockey, that he could have helped by pulling his horse's head to the right. I ponied my 7 year old ex-race horse out on a trail with my quarter horse mare. Race horse went into full "I just won a race" mode and kept biting the mare's neck ... and he was a gelding! Can't even imagine if he had been a stallion! The public doesn't have a clue the power and danger of a stallion. I hope they will let the pony rider off the hook.

    • @KimikoCat
      @KimikoCat 2 роки тому

      Outriders are always experienced riders. They wouldn't be much use if they didn't have experience.

  • @amystewart8015
    @amystewart8015 2 роки тому

    Great analysis, not that I know what I am talking about, but being uneducated I like the way you explained everything. Seems like it could have gone really bad and it didn't

  • @marlakay
    @marlakay 2 роки тому +2

    ❤️Just look up the morning after the race and you'll see the horse's true demeanor. Totally calm for 45 straight minutes ❤️

  • @Dagoof2k7
    @Dagoof2k7 2 роки тому +8

    Why even have the outrider lead him back? All the other horses gallop back without being restrained by an outrider. All because they want to interview the jockey immediately after? They have plenty of time to talk after the winner's circle ceremony.

    • @johnlvs2run
      @johnlvs2run 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly. Give the horse and jockey time to cool down.

    • @ateace
      @ateace 2 роки тому +3

      This is exactly the issue. On a normal day, the winner is not escorted. It's only because of the required TV interview. The outrider should have let Rich Strike gallop back alone. TV got in the way.

  • @kathyferragu2023
    @kathyferragu2023 2 роки тому +37

    You’re 1000% correct and I love the way you explained completely what was happening so even if people are not familiar with racehorses they could understand exactly what was happening. The only thing that could have kept the situation a bit calmer…it appears that the Outrider did not have a lead rope or shank. Certainly he couldn’t get to has own belt in an emergency. Once he did get that lead from other outrider he got a bit more distance. Although he and his pony were still getting savaged. Lastly totally agree about Jockey….not enough experience in this regard….he should certainly have worked to get things under control. Congratulations to all the track staff that deal with horses like this all day long 7 days a week.

    • @kellydukerschein5340
      @kellydukerschein5340 2 роки тому +3

      Agree - the Outrider did the best he could at the time. And, I'm pretty sure, adrenaline is racing through all involved.

  • @stephenknutson6256
    @stephenknutson6256 2 роки тому +2

    Interesting comments. Granted,I don't know much about hourses. But, was rich strike causing problems for the rider before the our rider came up? There is nothing to indicate that he was. Also during the altercation itself the horse wasn't giving his rider trouble. It seems to me thar the outsider was like a cop who is so sure that he is right, that he escalates the sitchuation rather then deiscalates the situation.

    • @MsDebonator
      @MsDebonator 2 роки тому

      Omg good analogy! He was totally in a power play with the horse and was going to show him who was boss, when he was a little man yelling and screaming when he got bit for yanking on the bit, instead of having a lead rope on hand he had to have someone bring him one. If he could have restrained the colt just to prove he could regardless of the consequences I think he would have to prove to himself and everyone that he was in control, like aggressive👮‍♀️s

  • @lywaa2300
    @lywaa2300 2 роки тому +1

    I think what a lot of ppl don't understand is that he is a young stallion whose training priority has been to run. He doesn't listen. He hasn't been trained to be a well-behaved horse, because he's been trained to be a fast horse. I don't blame the outrider.

  • @ponylovermadden4560
    @ponylovermadden4560 2 роки тому +23

    Greg is being eaten by Rich Strike...Ignorant people are blaming him and calling for his firing. I am sure he did not want this, especially on national television, due to scrutiny of the ignorant crowd. A typical thoroughbred race horse weighs in at over 1,000 lbs., and this horse was savaging not only the Outrider, but his horse as well. Greg did EVERYTHING he could to get Rich Strike to stop...he had to resort to physically correcting a horse, which is something ALL horsepeople might have to do. This is the Kentucky Derby winner, and imagine if he "just let go" and Rich Strike got hurt? There are also tens of millions of dollars of horses and people still on the track...if Rich Strike had gotten loose, people and horses might have died.
    This Outrider, Greg, did the BEST JOB HE COULD HAVE DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! He should be applauded for his work, not scolded. Shame on those who blame him without knowing the facts...SHAME!!!

    • @Rootcauz
      @Rootcauz 2 роки тому +1

      100% agreed

    • @Dreamer-by4nk
      @Dreamer-by4nk 2 роки тому

      If he just let go of him, it wouldn’t esculated like it did. Pony boys are not a requirement. Come on people, use your common horse sense.

  • @joycee5493
    @joycee5493 2 роки тому +7

    I agree with you. I’ve been around horses for a long time and you do the best you can when you’re in a dicey situation. I know lots of non-Horse people who looked at this with a blasé attitude or thought it was funny. It wasn’t funny at all. It was an extremely dangerous situation and the outrider did what he thought he had to do at the time. The only thing that surprises me is that he wouldn’t have had a leather protector over his pony. I’d almost think that should be standard equipment, especially when they are handling young nippy, stallions. Anyway, I’m glad to see you’re not bashing the rider. He had two horses to control at once. It was a very unfortunate situation but I think he did the best he could.

  • @firehorse_44alpha-omega
    @firehorse_44alpha-omega 2 роки тому

    Spot on assessment !
    Kudos for your insight and wisdom defending the outrider and his method.
    Cheers

  • @kellydukerschein5340
    @kellydukerschein5340 2 роки тому +1

    Lots of comments that make me curious - why is only the winner ponied back? Would it have been better if the Outrider removed the lead and let the jockey take the horse back on his own? And, was the outrider leading Strike with a shank clipped to the bit, or with the strap the use to take them to the gate? Thanks.

  • @naomiweaver1855
    @naomiweaver1855 2 роки тому +5

    I thought it was more of a push pull working against the horse’s counter movements - trying to control the bit and harness. Trying to stiff arm the horse. I didn’t see actual hitting going on. I think the jockey was allowing his horse to feel his oats and revel in that sense of winning - feeling boss. He was prepared to accept the collateral. I think it’s a psychology he wanted the horse to have. It was sloppy not to have accepted help.

  • @ChasingMiseryJuliya
    @ChasingMiseryJuliya 2 роки тому +11

    most people don’t know what it feels like to literally have a horse nip them while trying to do up a girth or simply step on your foot, let alone a full on bite to the leg💀💀 outrider did what any knowledgeable horse person would’ve done

    • @Dreamer-by4nk
      @Dreamer-by4nk 2 роки тому

      No he didn’t. He was an ass and made it worst.

  • @roamingrover2067
    @roamingrover2067 2 роки тому

    Thanknyou for a good analysis

  • @29trixie
    @29trixie 2 роки тому +1

    I agree with your assessment. This horse is jacked up from the run much like a football player at a game. A horse moving their head this way is dangerous for all in this situation. Thank you for applying your knowledge & common sense!!!