Pipeliners Local 798 working in Gillette Wyoming. Still missing is Shaun Thornhill, the journeyman spacer hand on this project. Go to the Charley Project: Shaun Thornhill.
my dad was rig welder 40yrs!! i am oldest of 3 sons been one now for 28yrs an youngest son been welding for 23yrs!! my dad actually passed away on a job at age 62 still burning them rods fast as we were at that age!! all i can say is im 50 now an i hope i can hold out till 60!! pipelining hard on a body an soul!!
@@abelguerrero144 very good question bro. Toxic fumes can really be bad for you if you’re not covering your face all the time. Shortens your life span by 10-15 years when you get older if you’re constantly welding for years and years
I'm not sure I would be proud of any Boston union, esp after shit fell off a tunnel a ceiling killing a woman driving down the road, the big dig was a total rip off of tax payers money
They have welding machines that do perfect welds every time for that exact pipeline project ! You still need the guys to set each weld up so skilled labor is still involved.
I heard the real good money is in underwater welding.. Cause of the danger factor. Can anyone tell us the pay of a pipeline welder compared to an underwater welder?
cattleNhay there’s not a lot of wet welding work these days. Divers wages haven’t gone up since the 90’s. That’s why after 25 years I’m building houses for more money. That’s in Australia at least
Steven Bernsen you know not what you're talking about. Those welders have to test at every job they go to even if they have traveled 1500 miles the day before,and if they bust out they go home. Then when the job starts, most gas companies require 100 percent xray or sometimes ultrasonic technology. I actually recognize a few of those guys because I've worked with them from time to time and I can say that 798 welders are the best. Not saying that they're the only good welders, but not many have to perform in the same rough conditions. I know because I've been working alongside them for 43 years. Knee deep in mud and dust in our eyes. We do what we do in an effort to get energy to the people of this great country safely and maybe more affordably. We do what we do with a certain amount of sacrifice. We spend many nights in strange beds in strange places while our wives, children, and other loved ones had to stay behind. Then you have to trust the Lord to watch over them and us. Yeah as you can probably tell, I love what I do. After 43 years, I'm fast approaching retirement and that is the goal I've been working for. There's a lot I won't miss but my pipeline family, strong, honest, caring individuals, I will.
@Stephen bernsen, plus ya might get one maybe two welds needing repair cause on the 3rd one yer down the road with a rancid baloney sammich on stale bread and a outa date roadmap.
What a cool video! Just started welding classes at my community college. It is definitely an art but it looks like it’ll be well worth the time and effort put in to be good at it.
I'm a welding inspector and the welders at my job tell me they're going to leave and go weld on the pipeline. I shake my head and tell them "Not with the welds your making now."
@@m6ndohernandez339 inspectors have a ton of weight and responsibilities on their shoulders man I have respect for them. He said not with the welds the have "now" meaning you need to work on your welds. He was being honest. I was told I have great welding skills when indeed I do not. Any welding job for critical work needs the best of the best.
Shop welding and pipeline welding are two different jobs. I know a pipeline welder that couldn't shop weld if his life depended on it. Of course I doubt if I could weld on a pipeline and be productive enough at it to keep up. @ 67 I can hold my own on structural and shop welding against most anybody.
Amen...yes ... we are now retired and he is working from his shop...and most pipeline welders cannot even come close to being able to fabricate and build what he does now!...yes I turn 67 in August...
Carlos Extromolo if you feel confident and can actually weld on the pipe you first must pass a test at the union hall...but an application must be made first...
Hey man I'm on The east side of the states also got all my certifications. What do I have to do in order to become a pipeliner ? Also if you ever need a helper I'm tryna get on. Thanks -Tyler
The pancake is to keep the sun from shining and glaring threw from behind where a regular hood is open on the back. There more sealed of like goggles and not as heavy..
when i was at Boieng in Wichita , KS . i helped in the weld test shop. and knew some pipeline welders. two of which i had known many years before. i soon found out pipeline welding is a whole differant level of welding. so now i DONT call my self a welder.
That's my 798 brothers. Best of the best....the UA Pipeliners. Be safe brothers!!!....Arkansas' UA 155 Plumbers/Pipefitters, disabled retired. United Association.....we do it right the FIRST time. A Cherokee & Choctaw Indian. Look for the UNION LABEL...IT MEANS IT IS MADE BY AMERICANS, IN THE U.S.A.!!! R.O.B./
Looks like there's a lot more than welding ...those pipes don't lay the am selves out to be welded greate crew... GOT TO LOVE THE OIL INDUSTRY WITHOUT IT WE MIGHT AS WELL BE CAVEMEN ...
It's nice that you're being a hype man and bragging about it all. But sweetie, there's always someone else out there who is better, you just don't know about them. It's a fact of life.
That maybe...but my welder in my union in my world there is no better than he...if you are non union and a good welder...good for you...I don't like being attacked because WE ARE UNION PIPELINERS!
Wasn't attacking you, only letting reality be known. And just so you know, I've been paying union dues for over 25 years in a totally different line of work. So I think I know a thing or two about unions, been a member of one longer than you have.
FFmike790 I deleted the comment of the person that was rude and the whole reason I left the first one that you saw...don't be so sure pal...I have been a union member since 1975 started out in the Teamsters then went into the laborers and now a Local 798er... and why would you care about our welders being the best?
Its not the athlete or the movie star that are the heroes, its folks like this. Its the people that work hard to keep America moving in one direction. I love videos like this. Great job!
I think the word "Hero" is thrown around a little to often. Your not a hero for doing your job. A lot of us bust our asses, doesn't make us a hero. I agree, Athletes and Movie stars are overpaid crybabies, but thats our fault for going to the games or paying for their movies. They do NOTHING to keep the world going round.
Real men real women real work and for real team work love to see it that's how America was built wish I could be part of this operation kudos to all you guys and gals
Just imagine pulling 1000 Beta Males working at Starbucks, asking if they'd like to make 3 to 4 times their current pay, and then shipping them to Wyoming and forcing them to work this job in January. I'd pay big money to see THAT video.
Robert Jensen I found working on the pipeline for the last 12 years that most of these people are not college educated...my husband's brother always says..."What do you say to a man with an IQ of 30?" "NICE WELD".... that was a standard joke between the two...
@@CherylAnn798 it's a funny joke among friends, but dummies don't last a long time in jobs like these (unless there's an even bigger one in charge taking care of 'em).
I weld 6010 Uphill or Downhill, Tig Schedule 5 Stainless, Backfeed, Tig and Stick 9 Chrome is doesn't matter. Unless you welded downhill and made some 798 Money, you don't know shit.
Amen brother! 🙏 we had a foreman that referred his pipeline to a rolling wheel and every spoke had their job to do...it works! Especially Union members busting butt out there!
Northern Sweden Welding Depends on the size of the pipe... usually 2 welders, 1 on each side...however, this job they ran 3 bead hands, to speed things up.
trying to make every weld better than the last, its like a constant competition ...against yourself and then ...one day...you're overqualified and start your own shop...but nobody can afford your shop rate...except NASA
They worked out a flat rate for the helpers on this job since we're bouncing back and forth from Ohio to West Virginia at $29.78...welders here are making $53.94 to $55.94...working for Welded construction on some 20 inch currently.
Are you guys running your own business / trucks sub contracting on? In Alberta I've known a few welders who sub contracted on EOS pipeline and facilities when I worked there, they would clear 1000$ a day @ 120$ an hour rate, Some were there for months on end without days off. B-Pressure Journeymen welders, Nice video.
Frank Lyons I used to work in a garbage truck manufacturing plant with a girl named Cordy who could out weld any guy there. Including me, it’s a well known fact some women have a steadier hand than most men.
George Mooyman Once the pipeline or a section of it is completed, and before pressure testing, cleaning pigs, which are just big foam sponge type bullets are pushed down the line by pressure. This gets rid of most of the loose debris. After that, once the line taken into service, filters at the receiving ends will be monitored regularly until "normal" levels of foreign material are occuring. In cross pipeline welding of line pipe, weld procedures never have a need for back grinding or welding, internal welding work) The only internal welding related operations is the use of an x-ray head on crawler to x-ray each weld as after it is completed. This is now more and more being replaced by ultrasonics.
You've got to factor in the locals most everywhere we go that are determined to separate us from our money. They have the mindset that we're gypsy millionaires.
BMR Studio the pipe will carry Johnny Walker Red Scotch Whisky from a distillery in Virginia all the way to Welder and Fitters heaven where someday we will all sit around and get hammered and share stories from tales of the dusty trail
Thank you for making and sharing the video. Lol yes all those guys in that video are true professionals at what they do. You don't run across welders like them very often anymore.
@@CherylAnn798 Many years ago my brother worked for GE as a welder. He thought he was good and evidently convinced the Australians who paid his way down there and gave him a job. Turns out it was pipeline work and when he was expected to crawl under a pipe and weld he quit. He had to work his way back here on a freighter. Lesson learned!!
The point is, is that its a 20:1 ratio. By all means women can and do weld but if we look at the number women as in statistically speaking groups take low paying low stress jobs where as men will seek out high paying jobs no mater the risk or stress level. But when it comes time for compensation Women want to generalize things back out to Women vs Men Not Job A vs Job B.
These men will live shorter lives so you can have heated homes in the winter and fuel in your cars. As will I, If I make 60 I'll be surprised. 26 years left.
You're wrong there Steve....I met my husband on a 36" Pipeline that run from Canada through Washington state....2006...I was a laborer at the time out of Local 32!
Anthony Mcintosh I wish everyone could make up their mind....I thank you for the positive comment...however this is shot with a Flip video camera...they're old and outdated, easy to use on a very rough terrain (for me) probably why the film jerks at times ... not only do I have to watch my step, I have huge equipment that could run over me!
Matthew Covey What the ???? are you talking about? I joined this union in January of 2007...I was 52 years old...I worked hard all my life raising 2 boys, and helping one all the way through to graduating with a Masters degree! I loved being a "pipeliner" in the union, this gave me 12 years to make enough money so that now at age 64 next month, I can collect my retirement. ...know I have money invested into a 401k, and look back at my career with a great satisfaction that there was always a TEAM of people there whenever I needed them...it's about WE NOT ME! I LOVE MY UNION...AND WILL TILL I DIE!
Well Cheryl. Let me correct myself. We play with inconel and copper nickel. Welding pipe is where my guys do training to see if they can half ass weld. iv'e thrown gorrila snot at miles of pipe. AND IF YOU THINK PIPE is where the BIG BUCKS are and the rules made. i wonder how many 798s would pass a grade 5 stainless test.. now with that said. you guys lay the pipe ill build the subs. All welders are cocky i,m no different. i,m putting together a video for you 798s. AND BTW what schedule pipe is that the 798s are glueing together? ..
So why the hell youall dont run that low/hi uphill? Wheres the 5p on those roots? Is that Esoab or Excal? My pops could stick a piece of chewin gum to a pussylip on the ocean floor and that flux trappin bullshit right there is why youall blow those fucking welds and need lums to grind yoe shit so fucking much! If that rods heat will run down hill it wont puddle out uphill and you can run it uphill. So are you running 7018 or 7010? Pipelines ass. Looks like an early case of carcenoma to me. Give me some Atomarc and I will roll those weld kerfs so fucking quick well be drinking frostys at 2! You boys are doing a great job! Thanks for keeping us going! Appreciate youall.
Great video pipe welding is the whole reason I got into welding I have had a few starter jobs but does anyone know how I can find my local pipe fitters union/welding union in my state?
The point is, is that its a 20:1 ratio. By all means women can and do weld but if we look at the number women as in statistically speaking groups take low paying low stress jobs where as men will seek out high paying jobs no mater the risk or stress level. But when it comes time for compensation Women want to generalize things back out to Women vs Men Not Job A vs Job B.
This did not show me shit, as a rig welder I want to see that bead, hot pass, fill and cap, then I'll put my opinion. God bless you all. Keep burning and turning but rig welders do not come a dime a dozen at least real rig welders don't.
Most ridiculous thing in the world pump crude oil through a pipeline leave it to the trucker's to move it just seems like a disaster waiting to happen when the ground moves or something else I don't know it just doesn't seem like it's a good system
for those that don't know these fellers are welding downhill progression. I have always worked construction where we only use uphill progression.the downhill creates a more pliable weld.this is needed in a pipeline for seismic conditions.someone out there correct me if I'm wrong or let me know better verbiage to explain why.been welding for thirty years and I never stop learning.its the toughest and best craft.put the wire in fire brother!
Couldn't have said it better...and I'm not a welder...my hubby is...so I ask him all these questions...all he said was PIPELINE WELDERS RUN DOWNHILL! Hey... Maybe the name of my next video...hehe
It depends on the application/process/filler. These guys are running an alkili electrode of the 10 series where the 1 stands for all position and the 10 series electrodes are all quite well suited to downhill (ie: 6010 (5P), 7010 (hyp), 80 or 9010 etc) progression due to the limited flux and slag produced, the extremely forceful arc burn (spray) of the electrode and very high deposition rates. It's a very deep penetrating electrode with very little slag produced that fills quickly and freezes quickly. Because of this many pipelines are welded out from root to cap completely downhill with a 10 series alkili electrode. Per API 1104 as well as the electrode classification and spec this is 100% acceptable. In the Construction Industry you deal with completely different codes. Most notably is AWS D1.1 code for Structural Steel as well as the AISC code book for construction and The UBC/IBC for building codes, all of which will refer back to the AWS D1.1 which specifies that structural members (classed as 1/8" thick and up, because less than 1/8" refers to the code for sheet steel/lt gage) must be welded with a cellulose low hydrogen (due to hydrogen embrittlement) electrode. None of which are produced that have the acceptable characteristics to be used in downhill progression. They are smoother (globular type arc characteristic), less deeply penetrating, have lower deposition rates and produce much more slag due to a different type and thickness of flux, which actually results in a slightly different and tougher alloy of finished weld metal. TOUGHNESS is what you're going for in the structural industry. You also use a different grade of steel that that on the pipelines. Most common pipe steel is A53 Gr B where most structural members must conform with A-36 or A992 for shapes and A500 for tubes. Thgere's way more than this that goes into it and I'd be here all day if I even remotely tried to scratch the surface. But in the end it's simply, different grade of steel, different subjected stresses (pipeline stress is internal and structural is external/compressive/cyclic etc) , therefore different codes are applied and different electrodes are specified. How you weld with those electrodes also by their very nature changes as well. For example you'd never get away with running a root weld on a moment frame with E-6010. 6010 is unacceptable in virtually every application under structural D1.1 code. However, by the opposite metric there are pipe applications where E-7018 is used and because it is an electrode that is specifically produced for uphill only progression, you'll never find a pipe welder weld with it downhill; because the code, the electrode specification and the manufactures specifically state you can't. So there are many pipe jobs where a 60 or 7010 root and hot are run and then it's filled and capped with 7018 or even dual shield flux cored and in the uphill progression. But most PIPELINE jobs that are manually welded are with 10 series electrodes that have the acceptable characteristics I described earlier that allow them to be used most quickly and efficiently in downhill progression that simply aren't acceptable for use in the building industry due to other characteristics that are undesireable in a structural load bearing application where the greatest forces are external (such as hydrogen embrittlement, low charpy toughness etc).
Cheryl Ann Lager i have some important questions to ask you, I got a job to build a ramp, I’m using 6x6 hallow section 4x4, 2x4, 1 1/2 galvanize pipe, 8” purlin and 4x8 corrugated sheeted metal an I will love for you to tell me how to charge for each please! Your feedback would be appreciated thank you
Rauh Welt okay...asked my hubby as he's the steel guy...are you asking about the cost price of the steel? Or the labor involved...are you welding or bolting it together?
Cheryl Ann Lager yes mate it’s the labor cost I would love to know cause I really don’t know. Only bolting up the pice in the column an the others is pure welding.
That jobs cake compared to the surveyors who trail blaze that shit and show y'all where the line goes. Before they cut a trail for y'all to come through.
Now you know why canadas pipeline are way more successful less environmental concerns. Schooling and training are a joke. We had a American mechanic come up from the states division twice now one came with a rock saw ditcher dumbest guy ever from states. No clue I did the repairs he was supposedly the expert. Didn't realize that the hudraulic oil used in Texas does not work at -40 refused to change to 0-40 so snuck it at night thing ran we're talking hydraulics. Than the other guy from Arkansas didn't know why he was going through power steering pumps never flushed his system you guys need a registered schooling prigram
Aaron Lucas We are WELDERS NOT MECHANICS! We have a very successful training school in Tulsa, Oklahoma for welders on the pipeline! We are highly skilled and are some of the best in the world...yes there are some not people with limited ability and education in this field...
my dad was rig welder 40yrs!! i am oldest of 3 sons been one now for 28yrs an youngest son been welding for 23yrs!! my dad actually passed away on a job at age 62 still burning them rods fast as we were at that age!! all i can say is im 50 now an i hope i can hold out till 60!! pipelining hard on a body an soul!!
May I ask how did your dad passed away?
@@abelguerrero144 don't be rude now the man said in the job and that's all u need to know
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@@arozverde3994 I was wondering if he passed away due welding fumes which really concerns me
@@abelguerrero144 very good question bro. Toxic fumes can really be bad for you if you’re not covering your face all the time. Shortens your life span by 10-15 years when you get older if you’re constantly welding for years and years
@@MRJ37welp it’s not like I wan get that old 😅
the one welding gig I would've like to go on before my disability/ retirement. 537 Boston
I'm not sure I would be proud of any Boston union, esp after shit fell off a tunnel a ceiling killing a woman driving down the road, the big dig was a total rip off of tax payers money
They have welding machines that do perfect welds every time for that exact pipeline project ! You still need the guys to set each weld up so skilled labor is still involved.
Why did not used an Orbital TIG welder such as AMI, is that a better weld than TIG?
yes
Alex Choe conditions and production
you got, your not the only person in the world
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I heard the real good money is in underwater welding.. Cause of the danger factor. Can anyone tell us the pay of a pipeline welder compared to an underwater welder?
cattleNhay there’s not a lot of wet welding work these days.
Divers wages haven’t gone up since the 90’s. That’s why after 25 years I’m building houses for more money.
That’s in Australia at least
muy buen trabajo..
Yup stick welding down hand is as easy as it gets.
no it isn't.. Up hill is far easier
In general down is easier and also depends on the rod and or wire.
Michael Collinsworth I know right because gravity pulls up so it only explains why uphill is so easy and unskilled
Try welding downhill with a 7018 or a 6010 rod........
I have a thousand times as is why I know.
A lot of women did mens jobs during World War II and Welding was one of them
Looks like a crew that gets a lot done and works well together
You could say they... Work weld together....
taylor bryan booooo
It would be nice to actually see the weld beads they are doing
strafe777 they won't pass no kind of xray I can promise you that
Steven Bernsen you know not what you're talking about. Those welders have to test at every job they go to even if they have traveled 1500 miles the day before,and if they bust out they go home. Then when the job starts, most gas companies require 100 percent xray or sometimes ultrasonic technology.
I actually recognize a few of those guys because I've worked with them from time to time and I can say that 798 welders are the best. Not saying that they're the only good welders, but not many have to perform in the same rough conditions. I know because I've been working alongside them for 43 years. Knee deep in mud and dust in our eyes. We do what we do in an effort to get energy to the people of this great country safely and maybe more affordably. We do what we do with a certain amount of sacrifice. We spend many nights in strange beds in strange places while our wives, children, and other loved ones had to stay behind. Then you have to trust the Lord to watch over them and us.
Yeah as you can probably tell, I love what I do. After 43 years, I'm fast approaching retirement and that is the goal I've been working for. There's a lot I won't miss but my pipeline family, strong, honest, caring individuals, I will.
strafe777, you could go getchya a block brush 'n go scrub some.
@Stephen bernsen, plus ya might get one maybe two welds needing repair cause on the 3rd one yer down the road with a rancid baloney sammich on stale bread and a outa date roadmap.
Nothing special
What a cool video! Just started welding classes at my community college. It is definitely an art but it looks like it’ll be well worth the time and effort put in to be good at it.
My husband has had an exceptionally long career as a welder..now retired, still pumping out amazing creations! Good luck young man...
I am a pipeline welder ! 30 years and still burning rod !
0:07 is that the welders version of sword fighting?
I'm a welding inspector and the welders at my job tell me they're going to leave and go weld on the pipeline. I shake my head and tell them "Not with the welds your making now."
No wonder they hate inspectors
@@m6ndohernandez339 inspectors have a ton of weight and responsibilities on their shoulders man I have respect for them. He said not with the welds the have "now" meaning you need to work on your welds. He was being honest. I was told I have great welding skills when indeed I do not. Any welding job for critical work needs the best of the best.
3:46 We get it, pipe welders vape.
Been steadily improving my welds on stick and mig through my shop class, one day I hope to work on the pipes
Never give up homie you can only keep improving! Welding is a great trade to get into
Me too. It’s amazing how much I have improved in literally 4 days.
FJB
Shop welding and pipeline welding are two different jobs. I know a pipeline welder that couldn't shop weld if his life depended on it. Of course I doubt if I could weld on a pipeline and be productive enough at it to keep up. @ 67 I can hold my own on structural and shop welding against most anybody.
Amen...yes ... we are now retired and he is working from his shop...and most pipeline welders cannot even come close to being able to fabricate and build what he does now!...yes I turn 67 in August...
Good weld billy, do that 10,000 more times please
the title implies that this is the most extreme kind of pipeline welding or something??? Try welding oil pipeline in the ocean !!!
u did that and where?
shane ward lol uh well I saw another UA-cam video haha
lol
God i wish i could have sex with the roughest men
Is that it?
My favorite profession in the entire world. Rig Welder. Trying to get it all back again. Slowly but Shirley. But don't call me Shirley.
I didn't know Toby Keith was a welder.
that's my dream job. I hope some day I'll be giving the opportunity to actualize this dream of becoming a pipeline professional welder
well I am a pipeline welder east side of the states with 6 years of experience as a welder good job on the video
I'm completely new to welding. I've only had my everlast welder for a while but completely love it. How do I get started getting a welding job?
I bought an everlast welder last summer and am practicing as much as I can. How's the best way to get a welding job?
Carlos Extromolo
make an application to the Pipeliners Local 798 union..they will be selling books as there is a lot of work starting up!
Carlos Extromolo
if you feel confident and can actually weld on the pipe you first must pass a test at the union hall...but an application must be made first...
Hey man I'm on The east side of the states also got all my certifications. What do I have to do in order to become a pipeliner ? Also if you ever need a helper I'm tryna get on. Thanks
-Tyler
the hood's speak for them selves
what do they say?
Eddie Banda i have one of those and am not welder🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I wouldn't use it !!!!!!
The pancake is to keep the sun from shining and glaring threw from behind where a regular hood is open on the back. There more sealed of like goggles and not as heavy..
when i was at Boieng in Wichita , KS . i helped in the weld test shop. and knew some pipeline welders. two of which i had known many years before. i soon found out pipeline welding is a whole differant level of welding. so now i DONT call my self a welder.
You will,takes time.
That's my 798 brothers. Best of the best....the UA Pipeliners. Be safe brothers!!!....Arkansas' UA 155 Plumbers/Pipefitters, disabled retired. United Association.....we do it right the FIRST time. A Cherokee & Choctaw Indian. Look for the UNION LABEL...IT MEANS IT IS MADE BY AMERICANS, IN THE U.S.A.!!!
R.O.B./
Mostly hard working
I didn’t feel like a welder, I never thought I could either because I don’t…. What now?
Looks like there's a lot more than welding ...those pipes don't lay the am selves out to be welded greate crew... GOT TO LOVE THE OIL INDUSTRY WITHOUT IT WE MIGHT AS WELL BE CAVEMEN ...
Any body can b a pipe line welder. Put this guys on a tie spot to weld sstell inconel Monel hiliarc welding then you. Tell me you r a welder
These men and women are the BEST PIPELINE WELDERS IN THE WORLD! We are UA Local 798...we build the best and safest pipelines in America!
It's nice that you're being a hype man and bragging about it all. But sweetie, there's always someone else out there who is better, you just don't know about them. It's a fact of life.
That maybe...but my welder in my union in my world there is no better than he...if you are non union and a good welder...good for you...I don't like being attacked because WE ARE UNION PIPELINERS!
Wasn't attacking you, only letting reality be known. And just so you know, I've been paying union dues for over 25 years in a totally different line of work. So I think I know a thing or two about unions, been a member of one longer than you have.
FFmike790
I deleted the comment of the person that was rude and the whole reason I left the first one that you saw...don't be so sure pal...I have been a union member since 1975 started out in the Teamsters then went into the laborers and now a Local 798er... and why would you care about our welders being the best?
Its not the athlete or the movie star that are the heroes, its folks like this. Its the people that work hard to keep America moving in one direction. I love videos like this. Great job!
I think the word "Hero" is thrown around a little to often. Your not a hero for doing your job. A lot of us bust our asses, doesn't make us a hero.
I agree, Athletes and Movie stars are overpaid crybabies, but thats our fault for going to the games or paying for their movies. They do NOTHING to keep the world going round.
Heros don't do it for money. Js
Real men real women real work and for real team work love to see it that's how America was built wish I could be part of this operation kudos to all you guys and gals
footage was so clear!
quite like to see them weld the bottom, and wet conditions, not so happy then ,, and to make a sound weld.. you guys earn every dollar ya receive,,
Yea laying on pallets in th mud.
Just imagine pulling 1000 Beta Males working at Starbucks, asking if they'd like to make 3 to 4 times their current pay, and then shipping them to Wyoming and forcing them to work this job in January. I'd pay big money to see THAT video.
Robert Jensen
I found working on the pipeline for the last 12 years that most of these people are not college educated...my husband's brother always says..."What do you say to a man with an IQ of 30?" "NICE WELD".... that was a standard joke between the two...
Nah give them a harder job than this to do if ya wanna see them squirm 😂
@@CherylAnn798 it's a funny joke among friends, but dummies don't last a long time in jobs like these (unless there's an even bigger one in charge taking care of 'em).
Down hand welders.
Cute.
800 dollars a day welders, super cute.
karbonxiii lol depends on the application , you're obviously a keyboard welder.
Amanda Faulkner 800 a day? Sob
I weld 6010 Uphill or Downhill, Tig Schedule 5 Stainless, Backfeed, Tig and Stick 9 Chrome is doesn't matter. Unless you welded downhill and made some 798 Money, you don't know shit.
@leterbuck2001 yes I see the shit they drive here in the west Texas oilfield....all super expensive nice trucks.
I liked it. No I'm no pipeliner not this year lol
I gave up welding for a living to manage others in the industry. Can't beat a good crew of stick welders! All weather, any position and anywhere!
Amen brother! 🙏 we had a foreman that referred his pipeline to a rolling wheel and every spoke had their job to do...it works! Especially Union members busting butt out there!
While you're busy welding somebody is stealing your truck
U.A. all the way
Can’t wait to break out of the shop and do some REAL welding!
How many people does it take to weld a pipe? Nice video by the way
Northern Sweden Welding
Depends on the size of the pipe... usually 2 welders, 1 on each side...however, this job they ran 3 bead hands, to speed things up.
Cheryl Ann Lager why does the welder need all the helpers and why do they sit in there truck all day watching movies🤣
I miss runnin pipeline offshore..good video!
i think i worked with the guy in the silver single cab pick up here in pa his name was robert good guy
Robert Good Guy...that's a funny name...
12 hour shifts? spending all day staring at a dime sized ball of fire? What goes through your mind in a day like that?
Gerald Posey
It's all about the BENJAMINS.... $$$$$$$$
a big pay at the end of the day
trying to make every weld better than the last, its like a constant competition ...against yourself and then ...one day...you're overqualified and start your own shop...but nobody can afford your shop rate...except NASA
Sleep lol
During those shifts I think to myself should I buy the SL 550 Amg Coupe Mercedez Benz or the Dodge Ram Lariat right?
Making some good money here and they deserve it !
Amen...hard work for sure
Remember boys before being a pipliner, its a bachaleors job.
Pip ... liner...haha...or maybe you meant pimpliner...hehe
Great memories, thank you.
Great video! Lol at the grinder comments some people have no clue
Right? Clueless is a good word on this one
Cheryl Levi ,
Hi. What are the pay rates for helper and welder?? Great video.
They worked out a flat rate for the helpers on this job since we're bouncing back and forth from Ohio to West Virginia at $29.78...welders here are making $53.94 to $55.94...working for Welded construction on some 20 inch currently.
Are you guys running your own business / trucks sub contracting on? In Alberta I've known a few welders who sub contracted on EOS pipeline and facilities when I worked there, they would clear 1000$ a day @ 120$ an hour rate, Some were there for months on end without days off. B-Pressure Journeymen welders, Nice video.
Gosu Vu
No ... we are union ... so some of us are sent in from the union hall and some are contracted by the welder Foreman! thanks ...
Trades make the world go round you want a career that will out live you get into a trade
My husband's father always told him,
"Learn a trade son, learn a trade"....
Yes sir, Master Electrician between 75-130 per hour, and no cubicle!
BRAVO !!!!!!!
I bet even the laborers make good money.
I started as a laborer in 2006...made great money being in the Local Union
I've been a pipeline welding inspector and I have seen women weld as good or better than men
Frank Lyons How do they clean all the swarf and grinding out of the inside of the pipe?
George Mooyman with a Q-tip the kind that goes in your ear
Frank Lyons I used to work in a garbage truck manufacturing plant with a girl named Cordy who could out weld any guy there. Including me, it’s a well known fact some women have a steadier hand than most men.
George Mooyman
Once the pipeline or a section of it is completed, and before pressure testing, cleaning pigs, which are just big foam sponge type bullets are pushed down the line by pressure. This gets rid of most of the loose debris. After that, once the line taken into service, filters at the receiving ends will be monitored regularly until "normal" levels of foreign material are occuring. In cross pipeline welding of line pipe, weld procedures never have a need for back grinding or welding, internal welding work) The only internal welding related operations is the use of an x-ray head on crawler to x-ray each weld as after it is completed. This is now more and more being replaced by ultrasonics.
Frank Lyons 6
i don't think there is higher paying blue collar job out there being a pipe
liner $$$$$
You've got to factor in the locals most everywhere we go that are determined to separate us from our money. They have the mindset that we're gypsy millionaires.
No, no i do not think im a pipeline welder!! You dont even know me!!
What this pipe for? I can't recognize the insulation. Nice helmets, nice job, good guys! Thank You for show Us!
Epoxy coated, not insulation. I would have thought Uphand welding would be required.
BMR Studio the pipe will carry Johnny Walker Red Scotch Whisky from a distillery in Virginia all the way to Welder and Fitters heaven where someday we will all sit around and get hammered and share stories from tales of the dusty trail
This pipe runs from Canada to Mexico for transporting illegal aliens in pods like the ones at the drive thru at the bank.
thats freaking bad ass!
Lol, that's my dad at the beginning of this video.
He's the best! That's why it has a million views! Hi Joe!
Thank you for making and sharing the video. Lol yes all those guys in that video are true professionals at what they do. You don't run across welders like them very often anymore.
10 years welding in Malaysia
My first month in doing horizontal overlaps. Going to verticals next, any tips from your expertise?
isn't that a job, you work for 30 minutes then sit in your truck for 3 hours?
Not hardly....how could you get anything done!
I’m surprised no one is screaming about the apprentice passing him welding rods. Who knew that pipe could bend like that.
That's his helper....All Weldors have them...we are union...
@@CherylAnn798 yes I know this already.
'Some nice country to be welding in.
And the welding fairy sneaks in at night and does the underside of the pipe??
My husband has 40 years of pipeline welding...he is the WELDING FAIRY GOD!
So you need some video of welding the bottom of the pipe...well there it is ...my next one...coming out soon!
@@CherylAnn798 Many years ago my brother worked for GE as a welder. He thought he was good and evidently convinced the Australians who paid his way down there and gave him a job. Turns out it was pipeline work and when he was expected to crawl under a pipe and weld he quit. He had to work his way back here on a freighter. Lesson learned!!
my step dad is on in the 798 union
wow
3G structural and pipe welding
man I'm 15 yrs in retired and miss it. El Nino is my welding name
michael El is that easy
If u was out there working u would see that there r female welders
The point is, is that its a 20:1 ratio. By all means women can and do weld but if we look at the number women as in statistically speaking groups take low paying low stress jobs where as men will seek out high paying jobs no mater the risk or stress level. But when it comes time for compensation Women want to generalize things back out to Women vs Men Not Job A vs Job B.
I knew a couple of guys out of the 798. One of them lived around Shreveport.
These men will live shorter lives so you can have heated homes in the winter and fuel in your cars. As will I, If I make 60 I'll be surprised. 26 years left.
Never seen a 798er UP HERE IN WASHINGTON. There,s a reason why. You guys keep makeing the rules and big bucks. Lay that pipe. Have a good day.
You're wrong there Steve....I met my husband on a 36" Pipeline that run from Canada through Washington state....2006...I was a laborer at the time out of Local 32!
All you need is a sticker on your truck bragging that you are a pipeliner...be humble.....or pipeliners wife...
Great quality video! I would have never guessed you shot this on a phone!
Anthony Mcintosh
I wish everyone could make up their mind....I thank you for the positive comment...however this is shot with a Flip video camera...they're old and outdated, easy to use on a very rough terrain (for me) probably why the film jerks at times ... not only do I have to watch my step, I have huge equipment that could run over me!
Someone only joins the union because they're not disciplined enough to make it on their own.
Matthew Covey What the ???? are you talking about? I joined this union in January of 2007...I was 52 years old...I worked hard all my life raising 2 boys, and helping one all the way through to graduating with a Masters degree! I loved being a "pipeliner" in the union, this gave me 12 years to make enough money so that now at age 64 next month, I can collect my retirement. ...know I have money invested into a 401k, and look back at my career with a great satisfaction that there was always a TEAM of people there whenever I needed them...it's about WE NOT ME! I LOVE MY UNION...AND WILL TILL I DIE!
well i don't know anything about this kind of work.but i do see the exact same supervisors standing around watching WORK :(
Well Cheryl. Let me correct myself. We play with inconel and copper nickel. Welding pipe is where my guys do training to see if they can half ass weld. iv'e thrown gorrila snot at miles of pipe. AND IF YOU THINK PIPE is where the BIG BUCKS are and the rules made. i wonder how many 798s would pass a grade 5 stainless test.. now with that said. you guys lay the pipe ill build the subs. All welders are cocky i,m no different. i,m putting together a video for you 798s. AND BTW what schedule pipe is that the 798s are glueing together? ..
So why the hell youall dont run that low/hi uphill? Wheres the 5p on those roots? Is that Esoab or Excal? My pops could stick a piece of chewin gum to a pussylip on the ocean floor and that flux trappin bullshit right there is why youall blow those fucking welds and need lums to grind yoe shit so fucking much! If that rods heat will run down hill it wont puddle out uphill and you can run it uphill. So are you running 7018 or 7010? Pipelines ass. Looks like an early case of carcenoma to me. Give me some Atomarc and I will roll those weld kerfs so fucking quick well be drinking frostys at 2! You boys are doing a great job! Thanks for keeping us going! Appreciate youall.
Great video pipe welding is the whole reason I got into welding I have had a few starter jobs but does anyone know how I can find my local pipe fitters union/welding union in my state?
only welded a few times. someone point me to the start of this career. I'm a hard worker. try me.
*You ain't going to get a job via a UA-cam Comment....*
wasn't asking for a hand out. asking for advice.
wasn't asking for a hand out. asking for advice.
DoD Secure
make application to the Pipeliners Local 798 Union...they will be selling books as the work is kicking off and they'll need more welders!
DoD Secure Start welding projects locally and before you know it, word gets around that you can weld.
they say this shit like its hard...i weld daily...go try climbing 2000 feet in the air to change a bulb,, then you could sound challenging..
The point is, is that its a 20:1 ratio. By all means women can and do weld but if we look at the number women as in statistically speaking groups take low paying low stress jobs where as men will seek out high paying jobs no mater the risk or stress level. But when it comes time for compensation Women want to generalize things back out to Women vs Men Not Job A vs Job B.
That's a cherry welding helmet where did you folks buy it from
This did not show me shit, as a rig welder I want to see that bead, hot pass, fill and cap, then I'll put my opinion. God bless you all. Keep burning and turning but rig welders do not come a dime a dozen at least real rig welders don't.
Most ridiculous thing in the world pump crude oil through a pipeline leave it to the trucker's to move it just seems like a disaster waiting to happen when the ground moves or something else I don't know it just doesn't seem like it's a good system
currently going to school for welding in hopes of pipeline welding got any tips for me?
for those that don't know these fellers are welding downhill progression. I have always worked construction where we only use uphill progression.the downhill creates a more pliable weld.this is needed in a pipeline for seismic conditions.someone out there correct me if I'm wrong or let me know better verbiage to explain why.been welding for thirty years and I never stop learning.its the toughest and best craft.put the wire in fire brother!
Couldn't have said it better...and I'm not a welder...my hubby is...so I ask him all these questions...all he said was PIPELINE WELDERS RUN DOWNHILL! Hey... Maybe the name of my next video...hehe
It depends on the application/process/filler. These guys are running an alkili electrode of the 10 series where the 1 stands for all position and the 10 series electrodes are all quite well suited to downhill (ie: 6010 (5P), 7010 (hyp), 80 or 9010 etc) progression due to the limited flux and slag produced, the extremely forceful arc burn (spray) of the electrode and very high deposition rates. It's a very deep penetrating electrode with very little slag produced that fills quickly and freezes quickly. Because of this many pipelines are welded out from root to cap completely downhill with a 10 series alkili electrode. Per API 1104 as well as the electrode classification and spec this is 100% acceptable. In the Construction Industry you deal with completely different codes. Most notably is AWS D1.1 code for Structural Steel as well as the AISC code book for construction and The UBC/IBC for building codes, all of which will refer back to the AWS D1.1 which specifies that structural members (classed as 1/8" thick and up, because less than 1/8" refers to the code for sheet steel/lt gage) must be welded with a cellulose low hydrogen (due to hydrogen embrittlement) electrode. None of which are produced that have the acceptable characteristics to be used in downhill progression. They are smoother (globular type arc characteristic), less deeply penetrating, have lower deposition rates and produce much more slag due to a different type and thickness of flux, which actually results in a slightly different and tougher alloy of finished weld metal. TOUGHNESS is what you're going for in the structural industry. You also use a different grade of steel that that on the pipelines. Most common pipe steel is A53 Gr B where most structural members must conform with A-36 or A992 for shapes and A500 for tubes. Thgere's way more than this that goes into it and I'd be here all day if I even remotely tried to scratch the surface. But in the end it's simply, different grade of steel, different subjected stresses (pipeline stress is internal and structural is external/compressive/cyclic etc) , therefore different codes are applied and different electrodes are specified. How you weld with those electrodes also by their very nature changes as well. For example you'd never get away with running a root weld on a moment frame with E-6010. 6010 is unacceptable in virtually every application under structural D1.1 code. However, by the opposite metric there are pipe applications where E-7018 is used and because it is an electrode that is specifically produced for uphill only progression, you'll never find a pipe welder weld with it downhill; because the code, the electrode specification and the manufactures specifically state you can't. So there are many pipe jobs where a 60 or 7010 root and hot are run and then it's filled and capped with 7018 or even dual shield flux cored and in the uphill progression. But most PIPELINE jobs that are manually welded are with 10 series electrodes that have the acceptable characteristics I described earlier that allow them to be used most quickly and efficiently in downhill progression that simply aren't acceptable for use in the building industry due to other characteristics that are undesireable in a structural load bearing application where the greatest forces are external (such as hydrogen embrittlement, low charpy toughness etc).
What parta Oklahoma ya,all from....?
Large Rooster
The Local 798 union is in Tulsa, OK... but we live in Durango, Colorado!
Large Rooster they are all from Ball Knob Arkansas lol
Large Rooster 185 Sacramento
Cheryl Ann Lager i have some important questions to ask you, I got a job to build a ramp, I’m using 6x6 hallow section 4x4, 2x4, 1 1/2 galvanize pipe, 8” purlin and 4x8 corrugated sheeted metal an I will love for you to tell me how to charge for each please! Your feedback would be appreciated thank you
Rauh Welt okay...asked my hubby as he's the steel guy...are you asking about the cost price of the steel? Or the labor involved...are you welding or bolting it together?
Cheryl Ann Lager yes mate it’s the labor cost I would love to know cause I really don’t know. Only bolting up the pice in the column an the others is pure welding.
Man , it just don't get no better than that ! that's how it's supposed to be!
No matter what they are paid it is not enough! I thought surface coal mining was tough, I was fooled!
With the money their making you think they would buy better face sheilds.
I would love a job like that
cody Fish honestly you wouldnt
Why
Its a f...ing hard job
cody Fis
No no you would not
That jobs cake compared to the surveyors who trail blaze that shit and show y'all where the line goes. Before they cut a trail for y'all to come through.
surveyors are in and out like a bee on a flower, these guys have to endure the elements. all geared up too.
Learning pipe welding in trade school right now, can't wait to be able to start my career
i love my HTP striker stealth helmet.. but i also see the benefit of these pancakes... sun glare is a real problem in my helmet
Idk if I want to be a pipeline welder or a construction welder.
pipes??? I was looking at the one with the men...lol
Love that SA 200 Hummin along....🇺🇸
What's up with this title?? If you weld out there on pipe line then you are if you don't then your not.
Now you know why canadas pipeline are way more successful less environmental concerns. Schooling and training are a joke. We had a American mechanic come up from the states division twice now one came with a rock saw ditcher dumbest guy ever from states. No clue I did the repairs he was supposedly the expert. Didn't realize that the hudraulic oil used in Texas does not work at -40 refused to change to 0-40 so snuck it at night thing ran we're talking hydraulics. Than the other guy from Arkansas didn't know why he was going through power steering pumps never flushed his system you guys need a registered schooling prigram
Aaron Lucas We are WELDERS NOT MECHANICS! We have a very successful training school in Tulsa, Oklahoma for welders on the pipeline! We are highly skilled and are some of the best in the world...yes there are some not people with limited ability and education in this field...
It good to see Gatehouse in this video welding.