The Weirdly Complex Science of Snow Removal

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  • @halfasinteresting
    @halfasinteresting  Рік тому +207

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    • @LegallyNoturDad
      @LegallyNoturDad Рік тому +3

      If you think about it Half as Interesting is the first comment so your wrong.

    • @TeddyBelcher4kultrawide
      @TeddyBelcher4kultrawide Рік тому +2

      When I moved to Cincinnati 10 years ago everybody was talking about millions of pounds of salt they got

    • @ground_news
      @ground_news Рік тому +3

      It was great working with you!

    • @deleted-something
      @deleted-something Рік тому

      I see

    • @BobEckertJr
      @BobEckertJr Рік тому +3

      I wish you would have mentioned that time Philadelphia tried to dump snow in the Delaware River and created an ice dam. 😂

  • @RobWVideo
    @RobWVideo Рік тому +5178

    Fun fact: Reykjavik in Iceland has so much waste geothermal heat that after using it to generate their electricity and provide free hot water to most buildings they run hot water pipes under the streets and sidewalks to melt all of the snow.
    They also heat one corner of the lake in the center of town so that the water fowl have somewhere to swim even in the middle of winter.

    • @zachohanlon3517
      @zachohanlon3517 Рік тому +469

      They also have a geothermal beach In Reykjavik so you can still swim at the beach.

    • @tnk.2033
      @tnk.2033 Рік тому +495

      Geothermal energy is underrated, it's a blessing if you have it

    • @ionic7777
      @ionic7777 Рік тому +318

      @@tnk.2033 yeah too bad it’s location based or we would have most of our energy problems solved

    • @justin.booth.
      @justin.booth. Рік тому +214

      Oh my god that’s why that corner of the lake is always melted! I never knew it was intentional

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 Рік тому +25

      Sounds like a nice place to live.

  • @claytonlind2996
    @claytonlind2996 Рік тому +1591

    As someone who actively works in snow removal, most places are actually just bad at it. There’s very little good training in the industry, most city/state guys are just out through a video series and told her after it. Not to mention turn over is super high. It’s kind of just a mess and even the best towns/companies still end up scrambling a bunch

    • @bobbyfeet2240
      @bobbyfeet2240 Рік тому +40

      We could also improve the plows, I think. Dumping berms across driveways is a pain for homeowners, can cause injuries and property damage, and can tap people in or out of their driveways.

    • @CaptNSquared
      @CaptNSquared Рік тому +25

      And there I was at the start of the video going "actually I've always thought Spokane did a really good job and I've never had problems with it"

    • @ghost307
      @ghost307 Рік тому +31

      There are also cities that deliberately do it the wrong way so they can keep tons of city employees happily on the payroll.
      I'm looking at you, Chicago.

    • @paulsmith5611
      @paulsmith5611 Рік тому +12

      @@CaptNSquared I thought it sounded like a fun job when WSDOT was in need of drivers for I-90 a couple years ago. But I would have needed a CDL and then I found out it paid $20/hr. No thanks.

    • @jackgibsxxx0750
      @jackgibsxxx0750 Рік тому +10

      @@paulsmith5611 ..... Maybe on the west coast 20/hr is not much but in the heartland you would have people lined up with shovels for 20/hr. Of course I live just far enough south that we get maybe one or two good (read: 2 or 3 ins) snows most yrs. More or less.

  • @HectorHernandez-dx1zn
    @HectorHernandez-dx1zn Рік тому +761

    You completely overlooked how its done in cities where snow is just a regular occurrence like Montreal, capital of snow removal and snow planning. The logistics behind are insane and super interesting

    • @wewantmoreboomboom8313
      @wewantmoreboomboom8313 Рік тому +31

      Ya... NYC is not the snowiest city.

    • @mr.voidroy6869
      @mr.voidroy6869 Рік тому +57

      Yea. This guy assumes everywhere is like new york.
      My town is amazing at snow removial. I live in a small village and our backroads are amazing because of snow removial.

    • @Sequoia204
      @Sequoia204 Рік тому +22

      Cool; I'll see if I can find a video about it! In Toronto we pretty much just plow, leave giant dirty snowbanks, and then dump tons of salt all over the place cause we don't care about our cars, shoes, dogs, grass etc.

    • @HectorHernandez-dx1zn
      @HectorHernandez-dx1zn Рік тому +12

      @Sequoia if you want to see montreal videos use the french word for snow removal "deneigement"

    • @woodalexander
      @woodalexander Рік тому +20

      @@Sequoia204 There's a whole subgenre of UA-cam videos of Montreal snow removal.

  • @lanespyksma8402
    @lanespyksma8402 Рік тому +142

    Salt brine is becoming a big thing up here in (western) Canada, since it's more cost efficient and lasts longer so it can be applied earlier in advance of a storm. It's essentially just a mix of salt and water sprayed on the road by a truck before a storm and it massively helps stop the accumulation of snow. And in reference to your beet juice comment - adding it to this brine helps it work at lower temperatures. Pretty cool

    • @cholmes7416
      @cholmes7416 Рік тому +3

      Salt brine is used everywhere and has been for a while

    • @bend8353
      @bend8353 Рік тому +16

      The body shops love it as well. 7x more corrosive to auto paint than salt. You never see old cars in areas that use it now, they all rusted out

    • @deklanhaugen8365
      @deklanhaugen8365 11 місяців тому

      Ya here in nodak we use bring till about 5 degrees or somewhere close but we also mix or salt in with sand so we don’t waste as much

    • @ExploreWithIsaac
      @ExploreWithIsaac 10 місяців тому

      Beet juice also reduces the corrosive properties of salt brine.

    • @deklanhaugen8365
      @deklanhaugen8365 10 місяців тому

      @@ExploreWithIsaac Dwight would be proud

  • @dubstrippin
    @dubstrippin Рік тому +101

    I have been balls deep in snow removal in Ontario Canada for 13 years and I’m here to tell you, the amount of machinery, human beings and money being thrown at the various ways to remove snow is absolutely crazy. Just the side walks alone in my city, 40 beats, 12 hours to clean one beat at 120 an hour per machine.

    • @paulelderson934
      @paulelderson934 6 місяців тому +7

      I was very interested but those numbers and words at the end mean literally nothing to me.

    • @Artyomi
      @Artyomi 19 днів тому

      What the hell is a beat, like a block?

  • @Wooksley
    @Wooksley Рік тому +4109

    To be fair, snow removal in cities where it doesn’t snow at all is even more atrocious. Remember Texas?

    • @Wraithfighter
      @Wraithfighter Рік тому +319

      Los Angeles would slide into sheer anarchy.

    • @jasonreed7522
      @jasonreed7522 Рік тому +369

      With the irony being that people from the north could probably drive perfectly fine in the amounts that shut down the south. (The main trick is just go slower, your tires can only exert so much force on the ground before breaking traction, winter lowers that amount so you just need to lower your speed as a result. Other things also matter like recognizing black ice and being able to recover/control a slide.)

    • @ThisGM
      @ThisGM Рік тому +136

      @@Wraithfighter Sooo...nothing changes?

    • @darkbrightnorth
      @darkbrightnorth Рік тому +58

      Although lack of regulation and safety measures can also partially be blamed for that one.

    • @seraphina985
      @seraphina985 Рік тому +46

      @@jasonreed7522 More importantly still is the need to be a lot more deliberate when changing speed as you can't afford the torque to accelerate or brake hard. Naturally the other key is to be constantly aware of this and plan for the much greater stopping distances too otherwise your journey will end up the arse end of the vehicle in front.

  • @marcelheymuth2113
    @marcelheymuth2113 Рік тому +564

    I live pretty rurally in the Black Forest, Germany, in a 70 people village at 600m altitude.
    Over here, the community pays the dairy farmers - who wake up early anyway - to just plow everything with their tractors. Works like a charm.

    • @rentonfreak
      @rentonfreak Рік тому +59

      Rural America pretty much does the same thing. The small towns have at least one machine that does the roads. Most residents pay a farmer to clear their driveway for them if they aren't capable of doing it themselves. The county is responsible for the roads leading into town which suck most of the time because, as the video says, they're clearing major roads first. Some roads only get plowed because a farmer had to drive somewhere so they clear a bit as they go.

    • @SnowingNapalm
      @SnowingNapalm Рік тому +16

      yeah round here our taxes go to the city and farmers apply for a portion of the budget because they have the equipment where the sitty doesn't wanna buy maintain and store such equipment sometimes big city has to drive out to help but mostly the farmers care for us not only with food but transportation mechanical work medical care ... thank God for Farmers, we really don't pay em enough

    • @cvbattum
      @cvbattum Рік тому +8

      Same thing on the other side of the Rhine in the Vosges. Except our local farmer always destroys our property in various different ways because we're at the end of a one-way road and the snow has to go somewhere...

    • @Frejki
      @Frejki Рік тому +4

      I've been working on a dairy farm close to Bad Urach and I've been plowing snow for a 80 people village at 5am. And you are right. It works like a charm :)

    • @mammutMK2
      @mammutMK2 Рік тому

      Our town had its own snowplow before it broke down and was never replaced. Then some idiot from a neighboring town took over and he just through salt on it...why bother with plowing when salt does the job.
      Where we could do it on our own they left a road for the kids in less snow Conditions and with massive snow only the main road and Roady with incline were cleared, the other roads got just the top layer removed...but with the new guy that was just salty snow.

  • @maccook1692
    @maccook1692 Рік тому +876

    You forgot the other big element! Gravel! Graveling the roads is used a lot up here in Canada where it's cold enough for salt not to work. Freeze some pebbles in with that refreezed snow. And BAM you have a little bit of traction! Less corrosion, and only need a new windshield on your car every other year 😂

    • @maccook1692
      @maccook1692 Рік тому +92

      Added benefit of not turning the roads into a big salt lick for the wildlife. Decreases the likelihood hitting a moose

    • @CTSFanSam
      @CTSFanSam Рік тому +6

      Was there a touch of broken glass theory here?

    • @imperfectly_megan
      @imperfectly_megan Рік тому +62

      *every year (or leave the damaged windshield up for like 5 years)(Albertan)

    • @joshharrison9054
      @joshharrison9054 Рік тому +4

      Winnipeg?

    • @Anankin12
      @Anankin12 Рік тому +25

      Same here in the alps, with the difference I've never seen or had a damaged windshield due to it! Very common.

  • @bene6468
    @bene6468 10 місяців тому +12

    Take notes from Finland. Gravel. It doesn't remove ice but makes sure you have traction. Added bonus is that in the spring most of can be swept up and reused next year.

  • @kovelamanas9905
    @kovelamanas9905 Рік тому +115

    "Much like British food, snow removal can be
    significantly aided by adding lots of salt"
    Good one 😂😂

    • @nbartlett6538
      @nbartlett6538 Рік тому +5

      Says more about American food and tastes really...

    • @peterirvin7121
      @peterirvin7121 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@nbartlett6538 I think your food will taste better if you add this salty comnent during cooking.

    • @chickenman5137
      @chickenman5137 8 місяців тому

      @@peterirvin7121you got him there

  • @StefanReich
    @StefanReich Рік тому +873

    20 seconds in and we've been through 5 different stock clips of actors showing basic emotions. Probably a new record

    • @wilk746
      @wilk746 Рік тому +34

      Don't give him any ideas...

    • @aziker
      @aziker Рік тому +8

      @@wilk746 Might be too late

    • @Vazgriz
      @Vazgriz Рік тому +80

      "I paid for the whole stock footage library, so I'm gonna use the whole stock footage library"

    • @TangoMike88
      @TangoMike88 Рік тому +16

      Editors are on crack this video

    • @publixskate
      @publixskate Рік тому +5

      Yet not one brick. A little disappointing

  • @LeMAD22
    @LeMAD22 Рік тому +207

    Snow removal here in Montreal is truly impressive. Snow blowers working 24/7 and constant lineups of semi-trucks getting filled with snow one after another.

    • @truevudderhutz3482
      @truevudderhutz3482 Рік тому +11

      yup I livve on a shitty street and its like looking pretty nice right now bro

    • @1224chrisng
      @1224chrisng Рік тому +8

      didn't Toronto once call in the army to clear snow?

    • @andrepoiy1199
      @andrepoiy1199 Рік тому +4

      And somehow being able to do it without banning street parking... My stupid city bans street parking during the winter so that snow plowing can occur, even when it doesn't snow

    • @knarf_on_a_bike
      @knarf_on_a_bike Рік тому +30

      Montreal is the best in the world at snow removal. No doubt about it.

    • @brainthesizeofplanet
      @brainthesizeofplanet Рік тому

      Ship it to Europe skiing resorts,they need it 😁

  • @zaired
    @zaired Рік тому +614

    I feel like this should have been a full Wendover video "the logistics of snow removal"

    • @jackgibsxxx0750
      @jackgibsxxx0750 Рік тому +9

      Sounds good.

    • @emberthecatgirl8796
      @emberthecatgirl8796 Рік тому +10

      But then they miss out on an innuendo, and we can’t have that here

    • @jaredkennedy6576
      @jaredkennedy6576 Рік тому +7

      Railroads even use jets, so there's the plane tie in too

    • @nah95
      @nah95 Рік тому +9

      HAI and Wendover should do a collab sometime. Both these guys seem like they could get along.

    • @sullychow4123
      @sullychow4123 Рік тому +4

      That would be plagiarism, Sam from Wendover doesn't like Sam from HAI, it's a long running feud.

  • @MrTwarner
    @MrTwarner Рік тому +47

    I lived in Chicago a few years back, and I have family who live in the Buffalo-Rochester area. Both places do an excellent job of snow removal, so I didn’t know people complaining about it was a thing. Even where I grew up in rural southern Michigan, it would take 6+ inches before school would close (caveat: it’s flatter than a pancake there). We were more likely to close for the temperature due to the risk of exposure for children waiting for the bus

    • @johnpeace971
      @johnpeace971 Рік тому +2

      Well, Buffalo has a lake and a river alongside it, so we haven't a problem with where to put the snow

    • @BradyT918
      @BradyT918 Рік тому +2

      Iron range in northern Minnesota. School pretty much never closed due to snow. It had to be -40°F without windchill before schools would close. If there was too much snow, many people would just ride snowmobiles or walk to school. Was funny in high school to see all the snowmobiles in the parking lot where vehicles normally parked.

    • @ronblack7870
      @ronblack7870 6 місяців тому +1

      in buffalo a foot of snow is just getting started. 2 feet starting to get serious over 4 ft in a day and you can't drive just stay home.

    • @jaelwyn
      @jaelwyn 15 днів тому

      ​@@johnpeace971 Yeah, their problem is that the lake keeps sending it back...

  • @emilydraughon5151
    @emilydraughon5151 Рік тому +27

    I also work on snow removal with plow trucks at the hospital I work at. It’s definitely not easy and it takes a long time (and that’s just a small campus.) I think city plowers shouldn’t be looked at as annoying, but as people who have been on-call and awake for hours trying to make sure you can get to work/school. Not to mention it could be a bit risky driving those huge plows. In my opinion we should be more grateful for what they do instead of complaining about their work.

  • @mitchstake13
    @mitchstake13 Рік тому +195

    I plow snow for a living and most of this video is accurate. I am assigned a route on the highway and unless told otherwise I stick to that route. It is true that we go through an insane amount of salt, especially for a prolonged storm or if it’s an ice/sleet storm. I always like to reiterate to people on the roads though how important it is to give ample room to snow removal equipment operating on the roadways. There are lots of blind spots, we stop often and on top of trying to watch the mirrors we are keeping an eye on the equipment too to make sure everything is running.

    • @borderlandsforlife7068
      @borderlandsforlife7068 Рік тому +6

      if you work in the industry then would you explain to me why 9 times out of 10 i see plows spreading salt but not actually plowing even when the roads get really bad? i cant think of a reason for it though im sure there is one for it.

    • @Praisethesunson
      @Praisethesunson Рік тому +1

      Hey what do you guys when you are plowing a road during white out conditions? Do you pull over and wait or do you just plow through it?

    • @PS-zw4yc
      @PS-zw4yc Рік тому +2

      Best part is when they have a salter truck followed by plow trucks pushing the salt off the road. I would bet massive money we could drop state/. Municipal salt usage by 50% and have zero loss of road quality. So wasteful

    • @AK74Man87
      @AK74Man87 Рік тому +10

      @@borderlandsforlife7068 We are told if it’s about an inch of snow don’t drop your plow. The less snow tears up the plow over time, the deeper snow cushions the plow, so a lot of times we just salt and not plow.

    • @borderlandsforlife7068
      @borderlandsforlife7068 Рік тому

      @@AK74Man87 im not talking about 1 inch im talking about 3 plus inches

  • @borismuller86
    @borismuller86 Рік тому +70

    I’m often impressed at how a country as large and as car-centric as America is able to plow so much snow. I’ve lived places like Switzerland where they’re amazing at it, but they don’t have anywhere near the same scale.

    • @gamagama69
      @gamagama69 Рік тому +4

      i mean thats why its so plowed cuz we rely pn cars so much places with less car use have less need to plow

    • @borismuller86
      @borismuller86 Рік тому

      @@gamagama69 makes sense when you think about it!

    • @thenamen935
      @thenamen935 Рік тому

      Also in Switzerland the roads don't have to be completely free of snow. They can gladly have a layer of snow on them with no problem. Most people have (because they should) winter tires for driving on snow and especially in the mountainous regions people have snow-chains to put around the wheels so you can just drive on snowy roads.
      (But then again I think about Zurich a couple years ago which decomissioned a lot of their snow cleaning machinery and had huge problems when all of a sudden there were bigger amounts of snow)

    • @leifkhas7425
      @leifkhas7425 11 місяців тому

      It's mainly the cities, interstates and federal highways that get plowed. And even that is in question. Cities in the South have almost no infrastructure for snow removal, and even interstates will be closed if the snow is bad enough. By land area most of the country is very rural, so it is up to private citizens to plow rural roads; and the county government might help if you are lucky. In cities, it's a combination of of city, county and state governments paying for it, and also private snow removal businesses, and lastly just normal people helping out with sidewalks and driveways.

  • @gregorcutt1199
    @gregorcutt1199 Рік тому +7

    4:30 I lived in Chicago for a year, and often reflected how stupid it was that, if I didn't clear the snow on the sidewalk in front of my house, and someone fell, I was not responsible, but if I DID clear the snow, and someone fell, they could sue me. In the intervening 20 years, it still doesn't make sense.

  • @andypanda8259
    @andypanda8259 Рік тому +11

    Halfasintresting: "Salt is running out."
    Ocean: "Hold my drink."

  • @sheldonpetrie3706
    @sheldonpetrie3706 Рік тому +226

    In Montreal, especially in the dense downtown and old Montreal have teams that use giant snowblowers to fill up semi trucks and haul the snow out of the city as there is no room to remove to snow other then the sidewalks or street parking

    • @brendancross2767
      @brendancross2767 Рік тому +10

      Mighty machines intensifies

    • @forgottenfamily
      @forgottenfamily Рік тому +3

      The problem is that it requires something like an order of magnitude more manpower and equipment to clear a fraction of the amount of road. It's a tolerable cost in a small area where it is hugely beneficial to the local economy but the costs involved make it prohibitive in, say, a suburban residential community

    • @onesob13
      @onesob13 Рік тому +3

      Instead in Minneapolis, we'll just restrict parking from one side of the street if we get too much snow and the snow plow's piles between the sidewalk and road get too big

    • @frankpinmtl
      @frankpinmtl Рік тому

      Mezzaine. I was wondering if someone was going to comment. It's all about the infrastructure

    • @cynthiakazmierzski8144
      @cynthiakazmierzski8144 Рік тому +8

      The funny thing about Montreal is that each of our 19 boroughs manages its snow removal independently, and you can see big differences between them when you go around the city after a storm, or even just by checking InfoNeige.

  • @plur90
    @plur90 Рік тому +319

    In a place where it doesn't snow at all, unexpected snowfall would be really difficult to deal with and they would, at that point, be really bad at doing it.

    • @kalebbruwer
      @kalebbruwer Рік тому +22

      Oh, you mean Texas?

    • @HeHeHaHa146
      @HeHeHaHa146 Рік тому +21

      @@kalebbruwer the power is probably out too because Texas refuses to winterize its power grid and is separate from the national grid

    • @untitledkingdom
      @untitledkingdom Рік тому +3

      That reminds me of when the Irish economy nearly collapsed during a snowstorm in 2017

    • @kalebbruwer
      @kalebbruwer Рік тому +3

      ​@@HeHeHaHa146 I heard somewhere that they are making improvements with winterizing, probably since last time was so embarrassing

    • @ghost307
      @ghost307 Рік тому +2

      Like when DC shut down in 2009 because there was a half inch of snow?

  • @bananatassium7009
    @bananatassium7009 Рік тому +52

    honestly, I live in the twin cities, and I'm always impressed by how fast and effectively the major roads are cleared. minor roads always suck, but they do a far better job than any of us regular folk trying to clear our driveways and sidewalks

    • @tommyfrerking
      @tommyfrerking Рік тому +8

      Came here to say this. Minneapolis/St. Paul have a great snow removal ability and system in my opinion!

    • @Amber-tu2jo
      @Amber-tu2jo Рік тому +2

      I live up in the northern US with you guys and I have to say, I have never thought snow removal was bad up here. Never had any issues except some extremely minor side roads being a bit of a challenge, but you usually only deal with that leaving and coming back cuz you live on one. Weird to see its not as effective in other places.

    • @mahart40
      @mahart40 Рік тому +8

      mndot is very good at snow removal. Smaller departments (counties, cities, townships) just dont have the money to spend like mndot does. The trick when buying a house is to buy one on a rural state highway, you will have the traffic of a county road and a very high level of service when it comes to clearing the road of snow and ice

    • @timwildauer5063
      @timwildauer5063 Рік тому +1

      That’s the past I don’t understand. Places like the twin cities are amazing at snow removal, but then in Ann Arbor, MI they’re terrible at it. We have the exact same plow trucks but they just put one tiny blade in between the axles of the truck instead of the big one on the front. They literally just pack the snow down and turn it into mush a bit faster instead of pushing it off to the side. We need someone to do a full hour long video on places that do it right, those that don’t, and what the problems are. Is it just funding? Education? Something else? I demand an investigation.

    • @NadiaSeesIt
      @NadiaSeesIt Рік тому

      Agreed! I just moved here from Colorado and they do a much better job here!

  • @anthonydpearson
    @anthonydpearson Рік тому +11

    Honestly, NYC does a great job. I remember in the COVID winter in 2020-21 there was a big blizzard, and they were out on the streets within minutes (and had been pre-preparing the roads to begin with) clearing it. The road was completely normal in the morning, all of this during a huge COVID surge. It was much appreciated during such difficult times.

    • @WShoup9818
      @WShoup9818 Рік тому

      All of NY state has decent to good removal service. Ironically Pa does not at least in the philly area it's main streets get plowed but if you're on a side street better have someone who does private snow removal or your street will be missed.

    • @ronblack7870
      @ronblack7870 6 місяців тому

      NYC doesn't get alot of snow. if they get 12 inches it's a major panic.

  • @challacustica9049
    @challacustica9049 4 місяці тому +1

    I saw a volunteer pickup truck with a plow on the front when driving through suburban America once. He was my hero that day.

  • @thomaswalsh4552
    @thomaswalsh4552 Рік тому +36

    I grew up in Chicago. We could get over a foot overnight and it was still 50/50 we’d get a snow day. Never realized other places had such a challenge clearing snow until I went to college.

    • @appa609
      @appa609 Рік тому +3

      We never got snow days unless
      1. The snow knocked out power lines
      2. Ice was covering the roads
      3. So cold the school buses won't start

    • @Dratchev241
      @Dratchev241 Рік тому +2

      @@appa609 used to be like that here in Indiana where I grew up in my school years. remember 1994 -36F with -60F wind chill and we still had to go wait on a bus outside and go to school. now however its canceled for about anything anymore, no wonder kids are weak.

    • @katie7748
      @katie7748 Рік тому

      ​@Dratchev241, Yeah, pre-2020 snow days were NOT a thing here. Now? Pfffffft we've had 3 or 4 and it's not even the end of January.

    • @Dratchev241
      @Dratchev241 Рік тому

      @@katie7748 here it was early 2000s when they started having no school days for silly shit.

    • @arguswil
      @arguswil 6 днів тому

      Oh the memories

  • @Michaelonyoutub
    @Michaelonyoutub Рік тому +135

    Living in Canada, we think the snow removal is often shit, until we see on the news or online that an inch of snow falls somewhere in the US and it is complete armageddon, and we remember just how amazing our snow removal crew are to deal with a couple feet of snow sometimes and keep our cities moving. Like even in the worst of storms some rural highways are completely clear.

    • @williammerkel1410
      @williammerkel1410 Рік тому +41

      The US is very diverse when it comes to winter preparedness and snow removal, if you live in any of the northern or mountain states it is an exact science, in Texas or Georgia? Not so much.

    • @teebob21
      @teebob21 Рік тому +12

      About ten years ago, Atlanta got 3/4 inch (2 cm) of snow and the city was paralyzed for almost three days.

    • @stormdragon4758
      @stormdragon4758 Рік тому +4

      @@teebob21 if we got 2cm of snow it wouldn’t even be removed from 90% of roads. We would be expected to just live with it.

    • @ethancrisp3491
      @ethancrisp3491 Рік тому +15

      Currently live in 'the US' and have 100-300 inches of snow currently. The south and southwestern US dont get snow and shutdown when it happens. The rest of the US understands what winter is.

    • @teebob21
      @teebob21 Рік тому

      @@ethancrisp3491 300 inches, eh?

  • @iainmalcolm9583
    @iainmalcolm9583 Рік тому +16

    Couple of points relating to this subject.
    In 1959, Edinburgh installed an 'Electric blanket' under the road surface of the mound (A steep hill just below the Castle). Now turned off but was successful back in the day.
    All the Scottish snowploughs/gritters can be tracked (Got their own website) and the are individually named.
    Names have included :-
    Gritter Thunberg
    Gritty Gritty Bang Bang
    Plougher O'Scotland
    Sled Zeppelin
    Gritney Spears
    Creedence Clear-Road Survival
    and many more.

    • @FrozenBusChannel
      @FrozenBusChannel Рік тому +1

      Reminds me of the Tom Scott questionnaire about naming an owl

    • @adamthedog1
      @adamthedog1 Рік тому +1

      a lot of cities have had snow plow naming contests actually! its a fun little bit of civic engagement, especially when my city only took entries from elementary and middle schoolers 😄

  • @paradoxcorporated2906
    @paradoxcorporated2906 11 місяців тому +3

    siberia in chat, normally (as i've heard) salty snow should be then be recicled through melting and then have salt extracted from it, but my city just uses stupid amount of said special salt over the streets and leaves it there. throughout the winter all the roads are covered with gray or brown snow with consistence of porridge. it's bad for tires, boots and paws of stray animals :/

  • @GribnikSToporom
    @GribnikSToporom 3 місяці тому +1

    Deep in the night Bart's room door blast opens. He wakes up to see sloppy drunk Homer at the treshold, wearing his favourite jacket...
    ... "Mr. Plow! That's my name. That name again is Mr. Plow!"
    "Mom, HELP! AAAAAAAAA!"

  • @Explosivefox109
    @Explosivefox109 Рік тому +86

    10/10 snow removal in Australia.

  • @marcuskuefler5079
    @marcuskuefler5079 Рік тому +25

    As a snow removal company owner in the private sector I really appreciate the accuracy that went into this video.

  • @mrwhatshisname
    @mrwhatshisname Рік тому +16

    Helsinki uses gravel instead of salt, to provide grip for tires instead of trying to melt/remove infinite amounts of snow

    • @chrisr2507
      @chrisr2507 Рік тому

      We do that in Canada too, but it really damages the paint in cars 😢

    • @chrisr2507
      @chrisr2507 Рік тому

      We do that in Canada too, but it really damages the paint in cars 😢

    • @harveylong5878
      @harveylong5878 Рік тому +1

      sand/salt mix works better then strait rock salt. even course grit sand does the job

    • @keisuketakahasi4584
      @keisuketakahasi4584 7 місяців тому

      @@chrisr2507 with salt on the roads your car is all rusty after 10-15 years

  • @marcel_kleist
    @marcel_kleist Рік тому +5

    In Berlin, where I lived for about 24 years of my love the snow plowing actually worked pretty well. They started at about 2 or 3 in the morning and it was always possible to at least walk on the sideway.
    Sometimes the streets where slippery though.
    Now I live in another city in Germany In which they start plowing at 9 or 10 in the morning which makes the streets and sideways nearly unusable for half the day.

  • @lakeeffected
    @lakeeffected Рік тому +2

    Here down wind of the Great Lakes we're in one of the snowiest places in the US. The state departments of transportation and the local highway departments do a great job of snow removal. Storms that dump feet snow and would paralyze most most places are cleaned up as a matter of course. They deserve a lot of appreciation.

    • @MrSoccerplayr101
      @MrSoccerplayr101 Рік тому

      I grew up in Potsdam and live in Burlington. Always had fantastic snow removal. Prepare and respect the conditions and everything goes well!

  • @ramipennanen1771
    @ramipennanen1771 Рік тому +62

    Snow removal generally works really well here in Finland and I believe in other Nordics as well. So it doesn't suck everywhere...

    • @alex2143
      @alex2143 Рік тому +11

      @Pronto They can't wait until they're Finnish.

    • @jaagup
      @jaagup Рік тому +2

      Yeah, i can confirm.

    • @freja9398
      @freja9398 Рік тому +20

      Works great in Sweden as well. This video is very US-centric. Surprise surprise, snow removal is just one of the 1 million things that does not work in the US lol

    • @probablykasper
      @probablykasper Рік тому +1

      Probably same in Norway, haven't heard anyone complain about it

    • @pinkyandbrain123
      @pinkyandbrain123 Рік тому +1

      Austrian living in Switzerland here. No problems with clearing the snow either in both countries

  • @prahanormal
    @prahanormal Рік тому +135

    I'm a snowcat operator and I can confirm that snow is exceptionally complicated to work with. A slight difference in how the storm is blowing can make the conditions completely different in less then an hour.

    • @Xpwnxage
      @Xpwnxage Рік тому +3

      Yeah, drifts can really pile up. I've been a snow/ice dump truck driver for a few years now and I never would have guessed what a pain in the ass it can be.

    • @RowanHawkins
      @RowanHawkins Рік тому +2

      The biggest problem I have with snow removal is all of the idiots in cars who get out on the road during and immediately after who are still playing on their phones while driving just like it was clean and dry dry out.
      Then they get jammed up because they or some other jacknape was trying to go way too fast on the surface and ended up in a snow bank.
      Then there's the people with four-wheel-drive who think that hey I can go really fast and forget the four-wheel drive does not equal four-wheel stop. As well as turning at high speed with limited traction. Next are the one's who insist on backing or pulling onto busy roadways with limited vision, or pulling out half way and then stopping leaving you the choice to hit them or smash the car on your left who hasn't figured out that passing means getting past the vehicle in the right lane. On the topic of passing, you can't do it effectively while tailgating the vehicle you are trying to pass. I'm certainly not going to go faster because some idiot never learned to drive correctly.
      All of these become road hazards to straight simple plowing.

    • @catchampjade
      @catchampjade Рік тому +2

      @modest mouse colored person i mean i guess that depends on what you are doing with the snow. Plowing it into big piles out of the way easy. But snowcats tend to be used in more complicated jobs or conditions unacessable by a wheeled vehicle

    • @donovanulrich348
      @donovanulrich348 Рік тому +1

      @modest mouse colored person alright, so your entire city is snow free every minute of snow during a storm right?
      I mean of course, the logistics is so simple you did it yourself

    • @donovanulrich348
      @donovanulrich348 Рік тому

      @modest mouse colored person yep that's it
      No insurance, no liability, no company policy, no payment
      Get out and push, simple

  • @EebstertheGreat
    @EebstertheGreat Рік тому +18

    I feel like it's all a matter of perspective. Here in Cleveland, a lot of people gripe about their city's inability to plow snow, but that hasn't been my experience at all. Highways and large thoroughfares are plowed _immediately_ when snow falls, often meaning they never become impassible. Salt is usually laid out in advance. Even when snowdrifts get big, even in the middle of the night, even when it's 5 below zero, you still see hundreds of plows out there. And while not every street is plowed promptly, they do all eventually get plowed. I find it remarkable.
    I guess some people will just complain about any solution that falls short of perfection.

    • @nicholaswinder9622
      @nicholaswinder9622 Рік тому +8

      I think a lot of the complaints come because businesses refuse to close and employees have consequences for not making it in. If cities would make it so businesses had to shut down during inclement weather and people could stay home, complaints would decrease dramatically.

    • @ethancrisp3491
      @ethancrisp3491 Рік тому +3

      I feel like an issue is the interstate will get plowed immediately but nobody can get there because their neighborhood is iced in. Last year the plows never made it to us and everything froze. So many people could not drive out and none of the sidewalks or bike lanes get plowed either so there aren't really any options.

    • @EebstertheGreat
      @EebstertheGreat Рік тому +1

      @@ethancrisp3491 You can shovel your own driveway and sidewalk or pay a plow (they aren't that expensive). If the street never gets plowed though, that is a problem. The plows should get out there eventually. That said, you do have to acknowledge the challenge in putting over 1,000 plows on the road and keeping them there for days straight. I don't know what went wrong in that case, but you can imagine a lot of things that could go wrong.

    • @senditkevin
      @senditkevin Рік тому

      @@ethancrisp3491 My guess is they keep the interstates open so us truck drivers can still get our loads delivered.

  • @benjaminlynch9958
    @benjaminlynch9958 Рік тому +8

    An episode on snowplows, and not a single mention of Plowy McPlowFace. That’s a real thing BTW. Minnesota started naming their plows.

    • @lukecantrell5149
      @lukecantrell5149 9 місяців тому

      Anchorage has a truck named Darth Blader.

  • @erinmckeand6506
    @erinmckeand6506 Рік тому +2

    I live in Canada and worked in the snow removal industry for years. I can confirm that it's a constant loop of take a first pass, go back over what you did, shovel smaller areas, hand salt smaller areas, then repeat if the storm is still going. I once had a snow removal shift that was 28 hours long.

    • @dovebair
      @dovebair 11 місяців тому

      That seems like a dangerous amount of time to be awake and still operating machinery.

    • @erinmckeand6506
      @erinmckeand6506 11 місяців тому

      @@dovebair Honestly, yes, it was. We were mostly working with shovels and stuff, but we were still driving between sites. That 28 hours was my best friend and me. In our last hour the rest of the company came in and took over. We went home and I felt like garbage from exhaustion.

  • @Justsomegamergamingandstuff
    @Justsomegamergamingandstuff Рік тому +1

    I live in Colorado, and these things are our best friends in the winter. The best is getting "stuck" behind them on the highway. So what I'm going 35, the road is clear, and I'm not gonna die. Also hearing UA-camrs talk about places in my state that I frequent is always fun. Headed roads in Vail is the absolute best

    • @some0ne8
      @some0ne8 10 місяців тому

      I love reading people from Denver bitching about how bad their snow removal is, and those same people talk shit about Douglas County relentlessly. Well, they must be jealous because our roads and streets are plowed down to pavement within hours, not days (or not plowed at all like Denver's residential streets). Unless you live on a cul-de-sac, you aren't complaining about DougCo's snow removal.

  • @onesob13
    @onesob13 Рік тому +6

    I'm really appreciating the high volume of Minneapolis stock footage in this video

    • @JEROMEJAMESGREEN
      @JEROMEJAMESGREEN Рік тому +1

      While watching this I kept thinking to myself, "hey There we are...hey there we are again!"

  • @LylacLily
    @LylacLily Рік тому +9

    I have been a Coloradan for almost 16 years now, and I can say that the overnight freezing is what really causes problems. (At least down in the foothills.)
    That fancy sports car might be nice in the summer, but try driving that on the Diagonal section of Highway 119 after a snowstorm - (don't do that, I am not liable for any injuries sustained while attempting such actions)
    A tip for for anyone that has ice on their driveway or sidewalk:
    -Get a hammer, lighter ones tend to be better. (For thicker ice you may need a larger hammer, I've had the lighter ones work for ice about an inch thick)
    -bring the head a couple inches above the ice, and start tapping the ice
    (I've found that tapping in a different spot each time cracks it quicker -- Also tapping in lines should create stress points for the ice to break.)
    -Once you have a bunch of smaller chunks, use that snow shovel and move it off the sidewalk or driveway!!
    This method may not be as effective if you have a large driveway, since you are breaking the ice one chunk at a time --- If you have any other methods that don't use salt let me know in the comments please!!

    • @NadiaSeesIt
      @NadiaSeesIt Рік тому +1

      I just moved from Colorado to Minnesota after growing up in Denver. What was nice in CO was that snow would melt pretty quickly with the fluctuating temperatures but you're right! Sometimes it would ice over instead. Breaking it up is great advice!
      Minnesota is great but I do miss that Colorado sun!

  • @jamessavard-ferguson2503
    @jamessavard-ferguson2503 Рік тому +6

    As a born and raised Canadian this video is missing a lot, if not most of the information about the work, infrastructure and technology that goes into snow removal in large cities. Sam! If you are interested, I will be more than happy to provide you more Information for a possible follow up video in this subject!
    Love your videos,
    James

  • @Herfinnur
    @Herfinnur Рік тому +4

    0:03 actually (🤓), our town is freaking awesome at snow removal (Ebbs, Tyrol, Austria)

  • @mapsmith
    @mapsmith Рік тому +1

    I would argue that Montreal does not suck at snow removal, I’m constantly blown away by the sheer efficiency of their system

  • @itsyadadboogiewoogie
    @itsyadadboogiewoogie Рік тому +10

    Our city blows their snow clearing budget every November, we live in a city that always has snow until March / April. That is a different issue entirely but shows even the bean counters can’t clear snow efficiently.

    • @harveylong5878
      @harveylong5878 Рік тому

      if they dont blow it, then the bean counters say well you obviously didnt need that amount. this year you get a quarter of last year's budget

  • @Croz89
    @Croz89 Рік тому +18

    In some parts of Europe, plows don't remove snow all the way down to the asphalt, so a compacted layer of snow forms on the road and in many places stays there all winter. All vehicles are then legally required to fit snow chains or studded tyres (similar high friction tyres may be permitted) depending on if it's a small region that gets snow like in Italy or most of the nation like in Finland.

    • @piuthemagicman
      @piuthemagicman Рік тому +15

      We are super efficient on this in Finland. All sidewalks and roads are cleared within a few hours even after a big snow storm. Studded tires are just a no brainer. Just the other night I was cycling through our 40,000 people town after 6 inches of snow just fell. Snow tractors and trucks were EVERYWHERE. Almost all sidewalks were cleared. It just works. I could just cycle on the compacted snow like it was summer on summer tires no problem.

    • @BarafuAlbino
      @BarafuAlbino Рік тому +3

      One region clears snow and bans studded tyres, while another compacts snow and requires studded tyres, and you need to commute between them often.

    • @TheAmericanCatholic
      @TheAmericanCatholic Рік тому

      @@piuthemagicman how expensive are studded tires

    • @harrylundstrom1887
      @harrylundstrom1887 Рік тому +3

      Studded tyres or chains are not required in Finland. Winter tyres are, if the road conditions require it from november 1st to the end of march

    • @germedia4369
      @germedia4369 Рік тому

      In Austria we do a simular thing. At first, we try to get the main streets clear, but its ok, if there is a hard snowy underground, after that we do the same with the other streets. The diffrent between us and finnland is, it is a lot warmer, so after the big snow is over, we try to get the main streets black again, befor the snow gets ice or mud. But the other roads often are white all the winter. It works fine and the streets didnt get damaged by the salt or ice

  • @XSpImmaLion
    @XSpImmaLion Рік тому +8

    As a citizen of a tropical nation, bellow freezing temperature management in all levels is just freaking scary... :P

    • @God-ch8lq
      @God-ch8lq Рік тому +2

      as a desert dweller, i agree

  • @CrossingTalkAdmin
    @CrossingTalkAdmin Рік тому +2

    Snow removal is actually pretty top-notch in the Twin Cities. If it snows overnight, the freeways are usually pretty good in the morning

    • @lifevest1
      @lifevest1 Рік тому +1

      Growing up rural just south of St. Cloud we’d always say “as long as we can make it to the freeway we’ll be ok!”

    • @CrossingTalkAdmin
      @CrossingTalkAdmin Рік тому

      @@lifevest1 Yeah but it always seems to get bad around Monticello lol

    • @interesting9688
      @interesting9688 11 місяців тому

      Even during a snowfall they try to always keep one lane plowed on the freeways. It's great!

  • @Tommygunn776
    @Tommygunn776 8 місяців тому +1

    Our small village of 1700 people has 3 snow plows + our gator with a plow + the little ride on snow blower thing. We only get ~28 inches of snow a year. We never have a problem in village limits. The county on the other hand...

  • @RedWingsninetyone
    @RedWingsninetyone Рік тому +5

    "Road salt is running out" is a bit of a misleading statement. It's running out in the sense that we are using it far faster than it can be replaced, but it isn't exactly a rare resource.
    That being said, you're spot on with environmental impacts. Studies of the great lakes have shown increased salination over the last 100 years. While they're still far from being considered salt-water, it's alarming nevertheless. Some town have begun resorting to alternatives, such as beet juice.

    • @jpPID
      @jpPID Рік тому +1

      @@hhjhj393 If you so forsee then it certainly must be true.
      Oh grand seer!

  • @florianix8272
    @florianix8272 Рік тому +28

    Can you do a larger video about this on Wendover? There is so much more to snow plowing than said in the video. And again, very US-centric. For example, in Austria or Switzerland, there are meters of snow, cleared by giant snowblowers. The Großglockner Hochalpenstraße gets cleared like that every spring. (in german: ua-cam.com/video/K79jwuMTmag/v-deo.html)

  • @Sp4mMe
    @Sp4mMe Рік тому +11

    A funny sign to spot in Switzerland is snow plow instructions (little green and red signs); basically in places where "push snow off the road" could mean "now you've buried the underpass" or something similar. For some reason I have not seen this sign in other countries ... I guess they just assume the drivers now where to stop plowing, or something.

    • @hazgebu
      @hazgebu Рік тому

      Yeah I've never seen these anywhere else

    • @marvindebot3264
      @marvindebot3264 Рік тому

      Makes sense.

    • @danielrose1392
      @danielrose1392 Рік тому

      Some regions in Germany use color coded sticks which they anyways put up to mark the edge of the road.

    • @brandonstafford4054
      @brandonstafford4054 Рік тому +3

      We have them here in Connecticut on state highways. While they arent full on signs, there are red and green reflectors on the side of the highway.

    • @tennisontower8003
      @tennisontower8003 Рік тому +1

      In my area of the US NE, many overpasses have high chain link fences on the edge, which will catch the snow thrown by the plows, and prevent most of it from falling onto the highway below. It does lead to slightly narrower bridges, as snow piles up on the edge, but works fairly well. Some snow does get down below, but not enough to be damaging.

  • @AnakinSkyobiliviator
    @AnakinSkyobiliviator Рік тому +1

    In Canada, we also put in sand with our salts when it comes to snow removal. While it won't melt the ice, it does make for a surface with higher traction and cars disperse it naturally as the tires pick them up and put them down elsewhere. The downside is that it eventually made our streets that haven't been plowed look like WW1's No Man's Land in time.

    • @IRLSuperb
      @IRLSuperb Рік тому

      They do that here in some places in the US and I hate it during the spring because he does make everything look like a Third World war zone. It’s very messy and this is why they stopped using it in most places. But the places that still do you can tell the difference very much cars have gotten a lot more modern nowadays anyway and with good tire technology and all wheel drive miniseries have discovered that it doesn’t really make a difference.

    • @AnakinSkyobiliviator
      @AnakinSkyobiliviator Рік тому

      @@IRLSuperb I find it kinda effective over here since the weather can drop below the freezing point of salt water so using salt alone would just refreeze in due time if snow removal for an area isn't a major priority (say, residential streets). But yeah dealing with brown slush and sand that gets into your boots isn't too fun.

    • @harveylong5878
      @harveylong5878 Рік тому

      @@IRLSuperb AWD, 4 Wheel drive is utterly useless when there isnt any traction. AWD is going to slide over clear ice just as badly as fwd/rwd. as for the sand making a mess - would you rather messy or the alternate of more aggressive salts, which btw is corrosive. more salt = more infrastructure being destroyed , more environmental impact and lastly your beloved AWD suv/crossover whatever turning into a pile of rust before you finish paying it off

  • @steelemedia
    @steelemedia Рік тому

    I was a snowplow driver for CDOT. CDOT is the agency that manages Vail Pass and all other vital roads in the state of Colorado.
    Vital roads near populated areas are to be kept clear 24/7. Rural areas don’t have this rule and can suspend operations overnight.
    We had a two snowflake rule. One flake was okay, if we saw two we had to report it to dispatch and call in somebody on our patrol.
    Interesting thing about magnesium chloride is that it stops melting ice at about -15 Fahrenheit. But that doesn’t mean it is no longer useful. On days where the temperature stays in the negative teens CDOT will run two plows at a time to sand the roadway. The first plow drops magnesium chloride and the second drops salt sand mix on the freezing liquid salt. It gives the icy blacktop the texture of sandpaper. I learned to do this on US 285 westbound descending into the town of Bailey.
    The bottom 4 miles of my patrol had guard rails. Plowing that section was like driving by braille. I would put the blade on the guard rail and it would steer the snowplow. There was often a 30 foot drop on the other side of the rail. Needless to say it took some getting used to.

  • @taukid421
    @taukid421 Рік тому +9

    Well, if it doesn't snow where you live, your town probably sucks at snow removal since they've never had to. Like that one time there was a light dusting of snow in Atlanta and the city pretty much shut down.

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip Рік тому

      I remember Snowmegeddon 2010 in the CSRA, rolling around Augusta looking for lunch in my CA-plated car being one of the few people who carried snow chains (they're needed on occasion in certain mountain passes). I think I ended up at a Waffle House 🧇

  • @shanechurilla
    @shanechurilla Рік тому +6

    Vail and many other mountain towns have dialed in snow removal well by this point. With vail’s use of heated streets and I70’s use of gravel rather than salt, the only thing stopping you from having a great winter vacation is a 55 year old lady running off the road in her Nissan trying to get from Denver to grand junction during a snowstorm.

  • @POPOPOPOPOPOP82
    @POPOPOPOPOPOP82 Рік тому +13

    I like when you end the video with a summary. It makes video feel finished; some of the other videos feels cut off. So I appreciate this format much more. Just some feedback

  • @jprevost25
    @jprevost25 Рік тому +1

    Get recommended this video after a day of plowing parking lots..... Stares at YT algorithm.

  • @Trevsrandomstuff
    @Trevsrandomstuff Рік тому

    As a Road/Bridge engineer I always cheer when I see the salt truck go by. That truck is my job security.

  • @rikeep
    @rikeep Рік тому +5

    Most cities have weather stations that are specifically designed to measure road conditions. This helps give surface state and temperature and allows specific road forecasts to predict when salt and plowing is necessary

    • @boostaddict_
      @boostaddict_ Рік тому

      Eh, not really. Here it's at the discretion of the roads superintendent, so part of his job is watching the hourly forecast that the municipality buys and go out and check roads at all hours of the night if there's snow coming. If it's only going down to 0 degrees, just salt the bridges in advance and have a couple people driving routes in plows once in a while on night shift in case there's any snowfall.

    • @harveylong5878
      @harveylong5878 Рік тому

      does a spinning dartboard and a tray of shots of Hennesy count as sophisticated tools for weather predication? thats pretty much how the weather people predict snow storms here. take 4 shots, put on blind fold spin around 6 times, throw a dart at accumulations. rinse and repeat for timing etc

  • @TNOBasedBatov
    @TNOBasedBatov Рік тому +13

    “Plowing is harder than it looks”
    I can confirm
    Wait we’re talking about Snow plowing?
    NO WAIT NO-

    • @deeznutz32108
      @deeznutz32108 Рік тому +2

      If you play HOI4 you haven't plowed anyone

    • @TNOBasedBatov
      @TNOBasedBatov Рік тому +2

      @@deeznutz32108 except fellow HOI4 players :)

  • @B3Band
    @B3Band Рік тому +1

    Watching all these clips of people trying to go about their days in a snowstorm reminded me how fucking glad I am that I moved to Florida

  • @MegaLokopo
    @MegaLokopo Рік тому +11

    Snow removal is actuall very good in salt lake city even when we get tons of snow.

  • @DeltaDemon1
    @DeltaDemon1 Рік тому +7

    Where I live, snow plowing (not removal) is very effective. I live right beside a medical center so that might have something to do with it but even elsewhere in town, snow plowing is very good. Snow removal, on the other hands, not so much.
    For years, I never bothered to get winter tire because there really wasn't that much of a need (I changed that 10 years ago for a variety of reasons). Even though we get tons of snow, it's always fairly drive-able and I've never gotten stuck.
    Cross the border into Quebec and that is not the same thing. I had the displeasure of driving just a few hundred meters crossing the bridge into Quebec to get to the office during an early season snow storm when I did not have my snow tires on yet. Not a problem, I thought, I drove for 15 years without snow tires. The long drive in Ontario was easy. Never any slips or fear of getting stuck. A pleasure. The snow storm was pretty much not an issue. I barely slowed down. Crossed the border to Quebec and nearly got stuck three times (that's in maybe a hundred meters), once in the middle of an intersection, my car slip sliding dangerously (and I'm used to slip sliding, since I used all seasons for 15 years). It is criminal how badly they plow in Gatineau. I always knew that and only used to drive on the Quebec side at Christmas visiting family but this was horrendously worse.

    • @cedricpomerleau5586
      @cedricpomerleau5586 Рік тому

      Honestly, Gatineau/Ottawa border is probably the worst way to compare Quebec to Ontario. Gatineau budget for their roads (and many other things...) is terrible.
      And yeah, this video isn't about snow removal, but plowing.

  • @LoveHandle4890
    @LoveHandle4890 Рік тому +8

    Snow is just so magical.❄️

  • @JFHeroux
    @JFHeroux Рік тому +1

    NOTE: Here in Québec, we've been using calcium instead of salt for quite a while now. No big impact on the environment. And as far as snowplows speed is concerned, they do over 80Km/hon the highway... so I don't understand why this videos says it's almost impossible to do so. Now, if our govenment could also decide to build decent roads instead of cheaping out...

  • @SeanLamb-I-Am
    @SeanLamb-I-Am Рік тому +1

    Here in Wisconsin we use a truly Wisconsin solution on the roads, especially on bridges and underpasses, cheese brine. The trucks go out before the storm to spray the parts of the road that are most likely to freeze first or to cause ice hazards. The white spray lines are pretty easy to spot on the road before the snowfall. Then when the snow starts, the plows work on the main and emergency routes and work their way out to residential streets depending on how much snow has fallen and how the weather is predicted for the day after the storm. Right now, outside my house, since we only got just under an inch yesterday, my residential street was not plowed but had sand distributed on it. I still have to shovel my own section of sidewalk.

    • @harveylong5878
      @harveylong5878 Рік тому

      cheese plants have to pay to dispose of the cheese brine anyway. only took somebody ages to figure out hey let's take a byproduct off their hands for free and put it to use

  • @FacterinoCommenterino
    @FacterinoCommenterino Рік тому +4

    Today's fact: Marie Curie, one of the people who discovered radium from uranium, was the first scientist to be awarded two Nobel prizes.

  • @sabarinaskar4690
    @sabarinaskar4690 6 місяців тому +7

    0:10 you shut up

  • @TheJakobdouglas
    @TheJakobdouglas Рік тому +1

    Watching this during my 12 hours shift for a state DOT. I was nervous to watch this but you pretty much nailed everything except the fact that most state, County, and local municipalities are gravely understaffed so most drivers are covering multiple routes. I currently have 3 but I know come or let’s that have as many as 5.

  • @CVGS
    @CVGS Рік тому

    I ❤ how he started the video with areas which snowing and then proceeded to show Houston’s map at 0:43 where it snows once in 5 generations!!!!😂🤣

  • @thefinnishbaconshroom
    @thefinnishbaconshroom Рік тому

    3:38 When you can distinguish your home country from a small video clip of a street

  • @TheNinjaDC
    @TheNinjaDC Рік тому +1

    Ok, for real. Trash Can nachos are amazing.
    But in no way is it an appetizer. That’s a meal for 2 or 3.

  • @bantam700
    @bantam700 Рік тому +1

    My city doesn't suck at snow removal, they don't even try to remove it.

  • @yezzir5464
    @yezzir5464 Рік тому

    🤣🤣🤣
    A very sincere SHUT UP had me on the floor!

  • @Nick-kz6dg
    @Nick-kz6dg Рік тому

    The Top Gear trio tried their hand at snow plowing. Chaos ensued 😂

  • @ThatGuy-rf8de
    @ThatGuy-rf8de 8 місяців тому

    I work on a DOT bridge construction crew, and being state employees, we have to plow snow. I can definitely say, most crews just suck at removing snow. My crew only cover a few counties, but we do an excellent job. You can see the difference when you cross the county lines.

  • @robertbalazslorincz8218
    @robertbalazslorincz8218 11 місяців тому

    The crazed railroad engineers who slapped jet engines to railcars as a way of melting ice from switches:

  • @TheSanpletext
    @TheSanpletext 16 днів тому

    In Finland we usually don't have problem with clearing roads of snow, the problem is removing it from the piles it is stacked in to in city areas. These piles usually block parking and/or pedestrian walkways, and there's just not enough trucks (or drivers) to move the snow to designated storage areas. It's also not cheap, so sometimes it's just "Eh, it'll melt in few months"

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck5705 Рік тому

    In the UK when the Hammersmith Flyover in London was built it was fitted with an electric anti-ice system. Unfortunately Hammersmith Borough Council didn't like the size of the electricity bill for the first winter (1962-63) of £4,800 (around £100,000 in 2021) and threatened to turn it off unless London County Council assisted them. The LCC took over the payment if this bill. I don't know when this system was turn off or stop working but it was removed around 2000. The bridge has suffered from salt ever since the heating system stopped being used.

  • @mcbohdo
    @mcbohdo Рік тому +1

    0:57 ...and they always move the snow at a specific angle to the adjacent bike path. At least in Germany.

  • @Dracalis
    @Dracalis Рік тому

    "Have you ever noticed that your town sucks at snow removal?"
    Me, a Winnipegger who has experienced -40°C but never missed a day of school or work because of snow: "Nope."
    I'm not sure if my city uses salt, but we definitely use sand to increase friction over ice-prone intersections. In spring, the roads always look pretty sandy.
    There are also mini snow plows that attend to the sidewalks. It's up to us to clear our own properties, but the sidewalks out front are city property, so the municipal government contracts that responsibility out.
    If you live in a snowy area, check on your neighbours. Some of them might need help, whether they're disabled or just got a lot of crap going on in their lives. I live next to an elderly person who walks with a cane, so I'm always shovelling his yard to make sure he can get out if he needs to.

  • @IMicah94
    @IMicah94 Рік тому

    Here in Gloucester, MA we have dozens maybe hundreds of citizens with trucks who are contracted out on state, local, and private levels. By the time snow falls, all the boys are ripping Dunks and making that under the table cash money. Works extremely well.

    • @harveylong5878
      @harveylong5878 Рік тому

      how is it under the table when they are contracted by state, local? the state and local doesnt pay cash, at least not here. you are a 1099, you get a check. private plow jockeys plowing gas stations, Joe blows driveway might get under the table cash

  • @yowny1
    @yowny1 Рік тому +1

    at 3:08 you clam our salt supply is running out. what source do you have for this? i couldn't find anything to back up this claim.

  • @mcswordfish
    @mcswordfish Рік тому

    True story - it's only in the last year or so that I've learned that Homer Simpson calling his business "Mr Plow" was NOT a joke about Homer being borderline illiterate, and that it's simply how Plough is written in the US (which is itself quite funny as it looks like it should rhyme with Low)

  • @putkipihvi324
    @putkipihvi324 Рік тому

    Salt doesn't melt snow anymore when the real winter comes. Greetings from Finland!

  • @Zytron
    @Zytron Рік тому +1

    last night on the way home from school, on the highway I saw several snow plow trucks with salt in the back on standby waiting for our 4+ inches of snow to fall. Not a single snowflake ever fell. I wonder when they finally went home.
    I'm extremely disappointed because my only field trip of the year got canceled due to the weather forecast but school was not canceled.

    • @harveylong5878
      @harveylong5878 Рік тому

      DOT plow drivers will sit there for days. they'd damned better for what their paid. private plow contractors if they are smart do seasonal contracts, they get paid snow or no snow

  • @christoferstromberg6605
    @christoferstromberg6605 Рік тому +1

    I get that this is very general and US centric. But we don't have problems in northern Sweden and here snowplows clear roads at up to 80km/h (and they get all the snow in one pass, for a dual lane highway they run two plows next to each other). Though we have snow for ~160 days of the year.
    Welcome to norrbotten if you want to study how to handle snow :)

  • @fyrman9092
    @fyrman9092 Рік тому

    I had to chuckle about keeping routes for emergency services clear. The municipality I worked for as a firefighter before retiring didn't plow the road in front of the fire station until 6:30 or later in the morning. Oftentimes, the road had more snow on it than the station platform because during heavy snow fall the platform was cleared by the duty crew with snowblowers before going to bed and up at 6am to clear the platform for the next shift without the plows going by once.🙄

  • @Robmancan1987
    @Robmancan1987 Рік тому

    This guy: Were running out of salt.
    The Ocean: Am I a joke to you?

  • @emilroro
    @emilroro Рік тому

    This videos hasn't had the usual quality I expect of half as intresting.

  • @icarusbinns3156
    @icarusbinns3156 Рік тому

    I got spoiled in my hometown. Where I live now, just fifteen miles away, the plowing just doesn’t exist!
    Fun fact: a staggered line of plows across a roadway is called a ‘slow tortoise’

  • @thesteelrodent1796
    @thesteelrodent1796 Рік тому

    With global warming, all of this is becoming increasingly less of an issue each year. Here in Denmark they use a fancy synthetic form of salt that sticks to the roadways and isn't as acidious as plain ol' NaCl. They also use a lot of sensors and visual inspection to minimize where and how much they salt. Because actual snow winters are becoming rarer and rarer here, the snow plough drivers have to be sent to Northern Sweden to get their training. And snow clearing in Denmark is actually very good when we do get the occasional blizzard. They normally start driving as soon as snow settles on the ground so they can remove it before it gets run hard and it is extremely rare for the snow to cause issues for the traffic because most main roads will be cleared in time for the morning rush hour

  • @magnusbergqvist2123
    @magnusbergqvist2123 Рік тому

    I learned a couple of years ago, when working for a smaller municipality here in Sweden, that when they remove snow, they can't dump it just anywhere. It has to be put in specific places and is actually considered hazardous material due to risk of of contamination from broken glass, and chemicals etc on the road.

  • @ClemensKatzer
    @ClemensKatzer Рік тому

    I am in neither of the two groups mentioned at the beginning... because Finland (same as for example Canada) knows how to deal with this. An interesting approach is, that a lot of construction vehicles (which in summer do, well, construction work.. but in winter less so), are available for snow work. So a lot of those push-something-ahead-of-you (not the tracked ones) are snow-plows and spreading sand/gravel, and lorries are also snow-plows or used to transport snow out of the cities. And there's a lot to transport, yes. Outside the cities there's mountains of snow which will still be there in early summer...

  • @Necroyeti
    @Necroyeti Рік тому

    I live in Ontario a bit outside Toronto and I am almost always genuinely impressed at how well the snow removal goes. The roads are usually fine mere hours after the snow lets up. All the rust on the bottom of my car isn't a fan, but I'd rather have my car rust out slowly over the years than get totaled in a crash.

  • @dovebair
    @dovebair 11 місяців тому

    Next, please explain why cities use plows and not brushes? Bobcat makes an excellent brush attachment for skid steers that doesn’t damage the road while scraping all the way down. Safer for running over debris and sidewalks too.

  • @Chapy63
    @Chapy63 Рік тому

    You should check how they do it in Montreal. It’s quite the operation, with an ops center and everything. Because it’s not just clear the roads, people park there so they need to take it away as well. I’m pretty sure there’s a documentary on it somewhere on UA-cam. Anyway. Happy snow day