I always try to go with the 1/4 turn full flow ball valves when I can...............Square nuts reminds me of a day when my work partner decided we needed to go get a 8 point socket to remove some 3/4 nuts instead of using a large Crescent wrench, seems like by time we found one we wasted half the day.............Glad you saved the old cookbook even if you don't keep it for yourself, it's great to pass it on and preserve it..............I've been known to watch a few bird videos myself, looks like Pipes is living the Good Life.
Plumber here. What you showed was what plumbers around my area call a boiler drain. Gate valves end up rusting shut. I dope some things. I tape other things. Depends on situation. Sometimes I do both. Keep up the good work scoutcrafter! My dad and I really enjoy your content!
Hi Dylan! You know for us average "Joes" some of the plumbing mysteries can boggle the mind. It's always nice to have a professional tell us why certain things are done! Thanks so much!
This time of year it is good for Pipes to do his bird watching inside! I think my dearly departed mother had a paperback copy of that General Foods cookbook from her home ec class. So many great recipes.
Around my house growing up my mom always had a big can of Crisco. She cooked everything with it. When me and my son started this hobby we had a couple of things that used square head bolts. Had to replace a couple and had a hard time finding them. Years ago when we moved into our house the main shut of for water used a gate valve. It was so stiff I thought it was going to come apart. I replaced it with a ball valve. Stay safe and healthy my friend. Thanks
Working on fire suppression systems and as an industrial building mechanic, I can tell you that gate valves are awful too. They're not terrible if you have water with a high degree of purity. We use a lot of gate valves such as post indicator gate valves for the sprinkler lines delivering water to the buildings, and OS&Y gate valves for sprinkler mains as well as fire pumps. We also use butterfly valves for individual systems and ball and globe valves for low point drains, drip legs, inspectors test points, 2" main drains, etc. By far, the gate valves have the highest failure rate. They constantly need to be repacked and almost never completely seat when closed. Even gate valves used for smaller applications such as 1" elevator shaft sprinklers constantly fail.
I'm not a licensed plumber but I'm a GC who does 99% of my own plumbing work and I've worked alongside plumbers for over a decade. For water pipe I use teflon tape first then pipe dope on top of it, the regular white teflon tape and Recorseal Tru Blu are my usual combination. For gas pipe (black and galvi steel pipe) I use pipe dope only, Rectorseal no.5, my local inspectors (socal) want to see the yellow color but it may vary by location.
I use both Teflon tape and Teflon pipe dope tgether on brass or copper pipe threads. An old plumber I worked with many years ago, God rest his soul, told me to do it that way to prevent leaks. It always has served me well, using both.
I too have become a slave to a stray feral cat. But I’ll tell you... when I get home, the welcome I get is fantastic. It’s nice when she comes over for a scratch... it’s soothing for me as well. And square nuts... great concept. Super strong but as you pointed out, in tight areas not efficient. Thanks for another cool video!
You know Nick- Pipes loves to stretch out on my lap at night for an hour or so while we watch TV and there is nothing that removes stress from me like him... =D Thanks!
Thanks for the schooling on square nuts. I restored an old pipe-vise and all the nuts/bolts were square. I mistakenly thought they were used simply because they were cheaper to manufacture. I did appreciate how much grab a wrench had with them though. Good find on that 40 year old valve. Never throw anything away.
My Dad had a really cool technique for tying up newspapers for recycling. So neat, so tidy, the trick was how he used the string. Btw.... love your content, I’m new and I’m sure I’ll become a long term viewer.
Your grandmother's "Betty Crocker's Picture Cook Book" is the one my mother had when I was a kid. I haven't seen that chicken and cherry pie cover for decades, and seeing it again was like WHAM!!! instant nostalgia. I used to read that thing all the time growing up. Also, thanks for explaining what those tourque flags on MTA lug nuts are for. Never knew that. Oh, and your cat said to tell you that although scrambled egg is very nice, something with butter and heavy cream from the new cook book would add a little variety...
I just recently saved a good handful of square head nuts and bolts from a historical residential interior remodel we’re working on. Glad to see my collecting justified.
When installing on a boiler I always use both teflon tape and gasoila pipe dope and it will not leak. One of the nice features of the boiler drain valve is that you can get a GHT threaded cap that can get you through until you can safely change a bad washer.
Slictite pipe dope then teflon tape. The hose bib you have is a compression valve and works very well. Ball valves stick and make more noise if not turned on fully. You can use either dope or tape or both. It really makes no differance.
I really never thought about square nuts. Now I see how it all makes sense. Very very informative 👍 There's so much information on the computer, but to have a book definitely has a certain property about it !
I've got to tell you, I worked in a boat yard when I was a kid and would pick up these stainless steel volts around the yard. These were used in zincs on the boats and were just tossed when the new ones were put on in the spring. I would take the corroded, dirty bolts and would clean them up on the wire wheel during my lunch. I still have some that I use and that was 30 years ago! 😄
So glad you did a segment on square fasteners, I do old equipment restorations for myself and have a friend who saves barn wood and timber so I get bolts and lags from him.and been buying new from McMasterCarr. We are from a German Irish area, when I was a kid dad and I would go to Bon Ton bakery and bring back hiesfagens. Probably spelled it wrong.but man I can still remember the smell. Dont know nothing on gas valves except Sunday church holding back the tacos and PBR from Saturday night. Great video!
10/4 on the square fasteners. When you use them, they HOLD! As far as plumbing, when I got the wood splitter kit I had to take off fittings that had WAY too0 much tape on them. Already were unwinding and going into the valves and lines. I use the teflon paste/goo/ Unc is the same way. The paste works for all of my deals. And being from the South the cook book rings home to me. My raising caught up with me I guess. Thanks, John CS! GOOD one, Buddy! GBWYou and that demanding cat!
Great to see the hand pointy thing in action. I really hope that MTA don’t mind you “looking after” the lug nut, and that it’s not something you’ve forgotten to put back. As per one of the other posts, where else do you get baking, recycling, plumbing, hardware and restoration tips in one video? Only from THE Scoutcrafter, keep it up mate, great job.
I thoroughly enjoy all your videos and look forward to the next one. As an old plumber after teflon tape came out it was said that it would actually seal where as other dopes were only lubricants. Just don't let the tape go over the end of the thread so it can tear off and get into the system you are working on...
I remember those cold winters rattling in square head lag bolts into misc. wood structures in the shipyard. 8 point sockets and old ingersoll rand air rattlers. That cold air coming out of the exhaust would turn you into a ice cube asap lol. Yet those square heads were plenty sturdy, never rounded one off while installing. When removing, it was the burning torch we used.
I'm not a professional plumber, but the times I have used it, teflon tape has worked well, including auto fuel lines . Thanks for the square nut tutorial. I really like the detail you go into for seemingly humble and simple pieces of hardware and tools. To me this is important knowledge. Usually I only see lag screws with square heads at the hardware store, but I was surprised to see a kit of various sizes of square nuts for sale at my local hardware store. Seems like a rarity so I bought it. It also means that my antique Blackhawk multi wrench isn't fully obsolete yet. Regards from the west, where more precipitation is on the way.
I saved allmost every old screw coming out when we were redoing our house. Everbody was already making fun of me then. For a large part I've cleaned (and polished) those, I feel to ashamed to tell anyone about it. I'm happy to know I'm not the only one now LOL. I always liked square nuts but I like them even more now, thank you! O and thank you for the story on those plastic things on lugnuts, I was wondering for quite some time about what those were for!
To answer your question about tape versus dope it depends on the plumber. A lot of plumbers use both. First you put tape on then you brush dope onto the tape. Only dope the male fitting, never the female fitting. If you are going to use only one type generally people use tape on water lines and dope on gas lines. Boiler installations typically have both. I use both on water and gas. Never get leaks this way.
On my boiler installs I used Teflon tape but I always seemed to get at least one drip. One day I watched an old school sprinkler fitter use tape then dope. He told me it's the best so for the last 15 years that's all I've done with great results. Brass hose caps can be your friend on those pesky boiler drains.
Square nuts are the greatest. They feel so secure when you're torquing them down. Also I wish we'd ditch the phillips and use that screwdriver from Canada. Great video. Love my kitties too.
I have such a wide Variety of Books and Fasteners, I'm just like you, I see one and I have to take it Home. That's so funny, knowing I'm not the only One. 👍
I know that I’m probably completely wrong but I think I’d rather enjoy a slightly shorter life and have real foods prepared with old fashioned ingredients and lots of love than to live a couple of extra years longer consuming”plastic and artificial foods” . I don’t know but that’s how I feel. Thanks scoutcrafter.
If your hex nut has no top or bottom the hole should be chamfered on both ends this is why it looks bigger. Your sq nut has no chamfer on the top and a small maybe a small chamfer on the bottom. I am left wondering one day you'll come and tell us about the latest find ... a 8 point combination wrench! One thing I always wondered how those colored arrow on the wheels worked.
I love classic bakeries. Whenever I visit my grandfather and cousins we get bagels and challah from the bakery and they make the best challah I have ever had and some pretty good bagels too.
Old school lamp wick. One place I worked made us use plumber's dope, teflon tape,and then another application of plumber's dope. What used to be known as a brace and belt approach.
I use ptfe tape all the time just use the right type. I would always put a blank after a valve as well no matter how good they are you will always have a small leak
Kevin- I like it better when the snow is lighter! LOL Heavy slushy snow is the worst! Sticks to the shovel and kills your back. When the temp hovers around freezing you never know what you will get.
A cat that choses you is hard to deny! I have a small assortment of square nuts from my grandpa's hardware stash. I use 8 pt. sockets often on engines for pipe plugs, for soft ones(brass or aluminum) only a square one will work! (Hello Snap On)
With you all the way on the subject of not disposing of books John. I only did it once back in '89 because of restricted space in my home (gave them away to charity stall) and regreted it almost instantly. When I went back to the stall later that afternoon and asked how they went I was surprised to find they had all been sold. Now, 31 years later I'm still scouring secondhand book stalls and flea markets trying to buy them back..... Ahhh well. PS. Love your channel. Keep on keepin' on mate. Stay safe and merry christmas!
I try to use square nuts when possible. We have an old time hardware store closeby that has a great assortment of old hardware. Great video there Betty Crocker LOL
Man I really did like the smell of that old book ha ha You can’t beat the old stuff great quality from taps. To books to tools old stuff is still the best . Great video scout god bless take care 🗽🙏🇺🇸🥝
I agree John, square nuts are better than hex. Any time I find them I keep them. On my boiler and water heater drain valves I put end caps on them to prevent leaking. I saw you paused on spaetzle in the cook book, my favorite German side food.
Lowes has 2 types, of what you call Globe Valves. A Hose Bibb is for the use of connecting a garden hose to. i.e. To wash your car. A Boiler Drain is for draining a boiler/hot water heater fast. It turns open faster.
I have plumbed many air systems in my life & the introduction of Teflon tape back in the ‘60s created a whole host of problems. Mostly the tape getting into the air stream & fouling up valves & other devices downstream. Also we started having air leaks in our systems. Teflon was developed by the aerospace industry & everyone thought it was the cat’s meow. Many times our work was inspected by another agency & invariably they would find leaks. We would have to redo several joints & we would go back together with tape and lock tight. Problem solved. Tape works ok on perfect threads but rarely are they perfect. I found a little secret about sealing pipe threads. I’m order for a leak to occur, the Fluid had to follow the helix of the thread to the low pressure side. Plug only a tiny spot on the helix & you’re good to go. Merry Christmas by the way.
I was an early adopter of tape, then I couldn't get a chromed brass fitting to seal up. I remembered how Turk, one of my old man's droogies swore by pipe dope. Bada-bing-bada-boom, a dab of pipe dope sealed it right up.
I used alligator pliers? On square bolts yesterday on an old machine, you could get much better than 90 degrees! And since the nuts are much softer they are really nice on your tools
So by need, the offset open end wrench was created, soon to multiple siblings of various designs. Forgot I use pipe dope with teflon bits. Stays in place and easier than rapping tape in tight places
Funnily enough, I am a plumber! Blue monster teflon is amazing, I always use both teflon and "dope" if I'm running gas. And really it seems everybody does threaded fittings differently, personally I use both on all npt threaded connections because it never leaks, but it's all personal preference. Message me on instagram if you ever have any questions 😎
When I was going to auctions first was tools second was books...i have some really nice ones and you can learn some old trade technics...invaluable... You have a cat well about two weeks ago a chicken showed up and will not leave me alone... follows me everywhere when I'm outside...i now have one chicken and one small coop...and feed...lol...stay safe crafterman....
Man eating the fresh rye bread out of the bag was a family tradition. My father would take us to Brooklyn army terminal to get the tree and wreaths, and then we would go to the bakery on Flatbush. I can't stand the globe valves as well everytime in our house I go to shut them they never shut the water completely. My father wasn't a plumber per say but steamfitter and he showed me the wicking and pipe dope, but we would mainly always do Teflon tape and pipe dope and that's what I've stuck with, but some old timers say if that doesn't work especially old brass radiators to go back to the wicking and swear by it.
ScoutCrafter, you need to get out of the 80's and 90's thinking, Lard and butter are healthy. There is nothing wrong with fat! They were having heart attacks from smoking, drinking and carbohydrates. Love the video, keep them coming.
The majority, if not all of the pipe dope has PTFE (teflon) with non hardening compounds and whatnot, so thinner, but will make a seal on the threads. The tape is more solid, and lays on solid over the threads, and can put a few wraps around the threads, 3-6 depending on the thread condition. While I was with one company, we always worked in the mechanical rooms with the steam turbines and water pumps and chillers, so on and so fourth. One of the co-workers put the dope first, then the tape. I asked him why he did it like that, a technical answer shortened; "He hates call-backs." Some background, these buildings were built in the 70's, some like the financial district, possibly around the 20's.
I've dealt with those square nuts and bolts. I was always curious when the switch happened from square to hex. I don't think I'm as crazy about hardware as you, but I definitely appreciate it. Especially brand new hardware in drawers at the hardware store.
I use hemp with plumbing grease for threaded fittings. only because I've taken apart ones that have been there for over over 100 years that haven't leaked
Pipe dope all the way, except natural gas and propane lines. Then yellow Teflon tape. When I was running the heavy freight into Oak Island yard in Newark, NJ. Before the van driver took our crew to the hotel in the Meadowlands, we would stop in the Iron Bound section of Newark at a Portuguese bakery. You gained two pounds just walking in the door. Fantastic pastries, breads, rolls, anything you could imagine. Outside the rail yard were several lunch trucks. They served breakfast and full dinner meals. I always wanted a sausage, egg, cheese, potato, green pepper sandwich on a Portuguese roll. Man, that was living. Those spots for the trucks were highly coveted. Competing truck owners were known to have shoot outs over spots. Of course you would take care of the driver as well. Sandwiches, cookies, baked goods, coffee, oj, anything they wanted to show your appreciation for them stopping even though they were not allowed.
Books: When clearing out our folk’s home, we were lucky to get $1.00 per old book (my folks had several van loads of books). Except for special books - no one wants old books. (Not saying it is right - just stating the facts.) Food: 1. It was interesting that in the 60’s, when we ate “unhealthy” - that there was less of a weight problem (my relatives and myself would never be accused of being too skinny). 2. People enjoyed their food more back in the 60s and 70s since more people knew how to cook (since we went out less). Most cooks had a special recipe. One lady had a special butterscotch pie; another had a special cake; another a casserole. Even with the food network - we don’t have that now. A cook is a minimum wage job instead of an important job to feed the household. 3. People were generally happier in the 60s and 70s compared to now. More people were living that lived through the depression/WWII and understood what tough times were. I could always tell a man who went hungry during the depression by the way he ate (clean plate).
Ball valves are the only valves worth using. And I use yellow "gas" teflon tape on most any tapered connection. Two wraps. White teflon tape is useless. I only use pipe dope on gas lines. Soft set.
Youse guys are tough! Lol! We don't even walk in little Pauls Valley, Oklahoma (unless we be packing! Lol! ) at 3:00 AM. I watch an old wagon/buggy restorer (EnglesCoachShop) and I wondered why he used square nuts.
When i was young; the square nuts were often called Farmer's nuts. Dave Engels who is a wheelwright on the youtube channel engels coach shop uses them exclusively on the old wagons he repairs and builds. Check him out, he's amazing with his workmanship.
Love your stories :]... Butter is a Super food:]...and if you would have left those books you'd be tossing and turning trying to sleep :]zzz...demanding cats i know the feeling:]
I have a complete set of Craftsman 8-point 1/2" drive sockets that I have had for years. When you have to have one; NO OTHER socket will work, So, I don't mind square nuts in the least. Outside of lag bolts, you don't really run into them unless it is an antique of some sort.
“I replaced it with a 40 year old one I found on the street” - another classic quote from ScoutCrafter.
CLASSIC LINE!
Beat me to it. I thought exactly the same thing. 😂
Anyone who loves animals is a blessed person IMO.
My favorite Nut is ScoutCrafter!! Good stuff Bud!!☺
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Only the crazy people are out walking at 3am, be careful or he'll get ya :)
I always try to go with the 1/4 turn full flow ball valves when I can...............Square nuts reminds me of a day when my work partner decided we needed to go get a 8 point socket to remove some 3/4 nuts instead of using a large Crescent wrench, seems like by time we found one we wasted half the day.............Glad you saved the old cookbook even if you don't keep it for yourself, it's great to pass it on and preserve it..............I've been known to watch a few bird videos myself, looks like Pipes is living the Good Life.
"Mom, that guy who picks trash at 3AM wants to talk about nut engagement". "Billy, get in the house, NOW!!!" J/K - you rock.
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Plumber here. What you showed was what plumbers around my area call a boiler drain. Gate valves end up rusting shut. I dope some things. I tape other things. Depends on situation. Sometimes I do both.
Keep up the good work scoutcrafter! My dad and I really enjoy your content!
Hi Dylan! You know for us average "Joes" some of the plumbing mysteries can boggle the mind. It's always nice to have a professional tell us why certain things are done! Thanks so much!
Nuts and Cats and Cookbooks! You can't beat that with a stick! Great video!
This time of year it is good for Pipes to do his bird watching inside!
I think my dearly departed mother had a paperback copy of that General Foods cookbook from her home ec class.
So many great recipes.
I wish Pipe and his Brother Stripes would stay inside but they rather be out! Crazy! Too cold. =D
Around my house growing up my mom always had a big can of Crisco. She cooked everything with it. When me and my son started this hobby we had a couple of things that used square head bolts. Had to replace a couple and had a hard time finding them. Years ago when we moved into our house the main shut of for water used a gate valve. It was so stiff I thought it was going to come apart. I replaced it with a ball valve. Stay safe and healthy my friend. Thanks
Ball valves are the best! Gate valves are good but if not operated for years they can be difficult!!! LOL
Working on fire suppression systems and as an industrial building mechanic, I can tell you that gate valves are awful too.
They're not terrible if you have water with a high degree of purity. We use a lot of gate valves such as post indicator gate valves for the sprinkler lines delivering water to the buildings, and OS&Y gate valves for sprinkler mains as well as fire pumps.
We also use butterfly valves for individual systems and ball and globe valves for low point drains, drip legs, inspectors test points, 2" main drains, etc.
By far, the gate valves have the highest failure rate. They constantly need to be repacked and almost never completely seat when closed. Even gate valves used for smaller applications such as 1" elevator shaft sprinklers constantly fail.
I'm not a licensed plumber but I'm a GC who does 99% of my own plumbing work and I've worked alongside plumbers for over a decade. For water pipe I use teflon tape first then pipe dope on top of it, the regular white teflon tape and Recorseal Tru Blu are my usual combination. For gas pipe (black and galvi steel pipe) I use pipe dope only, Rectorseal no.5, my local inspectors (socal) want to see the yellow color but it may vary by location.
I use both Teflon tape and Teflon pipe dope tgether on brass or copper pipe threads. An old plumber I worked with many years ago, God rest his soul, told me to do it that way to prevent leaks. It always has served me well, using both.
Back in 1950s when I was a kid, my Meccano Sets always had square nuts provided.
Yes Glen that's true!!!!!!
I too have become a slave to a stray feral cat. But I’ll tell you... when I get home, the welcome I get is fantastic. It’s nice when she comes over for a scratch... it’s soothing for me as well. And square nuts... great concept. Super strong but as you pointed out, in tight areas not efficient. Thanks for another cool video!
You know Nick- Pipes loves to stretch out on my lap at night for an hour or so while we watch TV and there is nothing that removes stress from me like him... =D Thanks!
Thanks for the schooling on square nuts. I restored an old pipe-vise and all the nuts/bolts were square. I mistakenly thought they were used simply because they were cheaper to manufacture. I did appreciate how much grab a wrench had with them though. Good find on that 40 year old valve. Never throw anything away.
My Dad had a really cool technique for tying up newspapers for recycling. So neat, so tidy, the trick was how he used the string. Btw.... love your content, I’m new and I’m sure I’ll become a long term viewer.
Great video! The square nuts bring me back. The cook books too, and I do know that old book smell.
as soon as you cleaned up that lag screw I had to give the thumbs up, great job Scoutcrafter.
I have grown fond of the body panel bolts and their snap on bolt fastners. Great stuff. Cheers
Your grandmother's "Betty Crocker's Picture Cook Book" is the one my mother had when I was a kid. I haven't seen that chicken and cherry pie cover for decades, and seeing it again was like WHAM!!! instant nostalgia. I used to read that thing all the time growing up. Also, thanks for explaining what those tourque flags on MTA lug nuts are for. Never knew that.
Oh, and your cat said to tell you that although scrambled egg is very nice, something with butter and heavy cream from the new cook book would add a little variety...
I think that Betty Crocker cookbook was a best seller years ago! 😃👍
I just recently saved a good handful of square head nuts and bolts from a historical residential interior remodel we’re working on. Glad to see my collecting justified.
SMART!!!!!
When installing on a boiler I always use both teflon tape and gasoila pipe dope and it will not leak. One of the nice features of the boiler drain valve is that you can get a GHT threaded cap that can get you through until you can safely change a bad washer.
Paul! Yes!!! I know I have one but God only knows where it is!!! 😂😂😂👍
@@ScoutCrafter Good luck on that! Wire it to the valve wheel when you find it. :-)
About time you made a video about square nuts and bolts 🔩. Those are my favorite I have a few and I still buy them when ever I see them!!
Slictite pipe dope then teflon tape. The hose bib you have is a compression valve and works very well. Ball valves stick and make more noise if not turned on fully. You can use either dope or tape or both. It really makes no differance.
All these years never knew what those torque flags were lol. Man always learn something from you.
Lot's of tires were literally falling off so now they are required in certain areas! =D
Thanks for this video.Brings back memories of globe,gate,butterfly valves and PTFE tape when dealing with facility engineers.ATB.
I really never thought about square nuts.
Now I see how it all makes sense.
Very very informative 👍
There's so much information on the computer, but to have a book definitely has a certain property about it !
I've got to tell you, I worked in a boat yard when I was a kid and would pick up these stainless steel volts around the yard. These were used in zincs on the boats and were just tossed when the new ones were put on in the spring. I would take the corroded, dirty bolts and would clean them up on the wire wheel during my lunch. I still have some that I use and that was 30 years ago! 😄
I spent a lot of time in the boatyard as a young man. In the 70’s boating was big! Now the yards are mostly gone and it’s an expensive endeavor. 😃👍
Another great Mosh! Pipes is a neat looking cat and I think it is great he watches UA-cam videos of birds. Thanks for sharing this.
As a woodworker I like square nut because they are easy to capture.
So glad you did a segment on square fasteners, I do old equipment restorations for myself and have a friend who saves barn wood and timber so I get bolts and lags from him.and been buying new from McMasterCarr. We are from a German Irish area, when I was a kid dad and I would go to Bon Ton bakery and bring back hiesfagens. Probably spelled it wrong.but man I can still remember the smell. Dont know nothing on gas valves except Sunday church holding back the tacos and PBR from Saturday night. Great video!
Nothing beats an old fashioned bakery... My Dad would smile from ear to ear coming home from one! 😃👍
Man, you made my morning! Great video. Love the cook book
10/4 on the square fasteners. When you use them, they HOLD! As far as plumbing, when I got the wood splitter kit I had to take off fittings that had WAY too0 much tape on them. Already were unwinding and going into the valves and lines. I use the teflon paste/goo/ Unc is the same way. The paste works for all of my deals. And being from the South the cook book rings home to me. My raising caught up with me I guess. Thanks, John CS! GOOD one, Buddy! GBWYou and that demanding cat!
Great to see the hand pointy thing in action. I really hope that MTA don’t mind you “looking after” the lug nut, and that it’s not something you’ve forgotten to put back. As per one of the other posts, where else do you get baking, recycling, plumbing, hardware and restoration tips in one video? Only from THE Scoutcrafter, keep it up mate, great job.
I thoroughly enjoy all your videos and look forward to the next one. As an old plumber after teflon tape came out it was said that it would actually seal where as other dopes were only lubricants. Just don't let the tape go over the end of the thread so it can tear off and get into the system you are working on...
I remember those cold winters rattling in square head lag bolts into misc. wood structures in the shipyard. 8 point sockets and old ingersoll rand air rattlers. That cold air coming out of the exhaust would turn you into a ice cube asap lol. Yet those square heads were plenty sturdy, never rounded one off while installing. When removing, it was the burning torch we used.
Dale- You certainly paint a pretty picture!!! Awesome description! 😃👍
I'm not a professional plumber, but the times I have used it, teflon tape has worked well, including auto fuel lines . Thanks for the square nut tutorial. I really like the detail you go into for seemingly humble and simple pieces of hardware and tools. To me this is important knowledge. Usually I only see lag screws with square heads at the hardware store, but I was surprised to see a kit of various sizes of square nuts for sale at my local hardware store. Seems like a rarity so I bought it. It also means that my antique Blackhawk multi wrench isn't fully obsolete yet. Regards from the west, where more precipitation is on the way.
I saved allmost every old screw coming out when we were redoing our house. Everbody was already making fun of me then. For a large part I've cleaned (and polished) those, I feel to ashamed to tell anyone about it. I'm happy to know I'm not the only one now LOL. I always liked square nuts but I like them even more now, thank you!
O and thank you for the story on those plastic things on lugnuts, I was wondering for quite some time about what those were for!
Alex- Hardware is where it’s at!!! 😃👍
To answer your question about tape versus dope it depends on the plumber. A lot of plumbers use both. First you put tape on then you brush dope onto the tape. Only dope the male fitting, never the female fitting. If you are going to use only one type generally people use tape on water lines and dope on gas lines. Boiler installations typically have both. I use both on water and gas. Never get leaks this way.
WHERE ELSE ! Could you get some cooking tips and hardware tips in the same video!! Keep up the good work!!
not to mention the heart attack statistics for 1959!
On my boiler installs I used Teflon tape but I always seemed to get at least one drip. One day I watched an old school sprinkler fitter use tape then dope. He told me it's the best so for the last 15 years that's all I've done with great results. Brass hose caps can be your friend on those pesky boiler drains.
Square nuts are the greatest. They feel so secure when you're torquing them down. Also I wish we'd ditch the phillips and use that screwdriver from Canada. Great video. Love my kitties too.
We call those square screw drivers “Robertson” up here. You are right, they offer less slipping for sure.
Am i the only one pausing this to read the recipes each time he focuses on one?
I have such a wide Variety of Books and Fasteners, I'm just like you, I see one and I have to take it Home. That's so funny, knowing I'm not the only One. 👍
I know that I’m probably completely wrong but I think I’d rather enjoy a slightly shorter life and have real foods prepared with old fashioned ingredients and lots of love than to live a couple of extra years longer consuming”plastic and artificial foods” . I don’t know but that’s how I feel. Thanks scoutcrafter.
Dan- I’m with you!!! 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter Yessir! I lift weights when I get out of bed every morning.
If your hex nut has no top or bottom the hole should be chamfered on both ends this is why it looks bigger. Your sq nut has no chamfer on the top and a small maybe a small chamfer on the bottom. I am left wondering one day you'll come and tell us about the latest find ... a 8 point combination wrench!
One thing I always wondered how those colored arrow on the wheels worked.
I love classic bakeries. Whenever I visit my grandfather and cousins we get bagels and challah from the bakery and they make the best challah I have ever had and some pretty good bagels too.
Noah- Ever have a bialy? 😋
@@ScoutCrafter no? but just looked it up and it looks pretty good.
Old school lamp wick. One place I worked made us use plumber's dope, teflon tape,and then another application of plumber's dope. What used to be known as a brace and belt approach.
I use ptfe tape all the time just use the right type. I would always put a blank after a valve as well no matter how good they are you will always have a small leak
Potato and salami casserole!! 🙂 Good save 👍🏻
I saw that too!
Thanks ScoutCrafter just shoveled all day. Watching your video was just what I needed to relax.
Kevin- I like it better when the snow is lighter! LOL Heavy slushy snow is the worst! Sticks to the shovel and kills your back. When the temp hovers around freezing you never know what you will get.
A cat that choses you is hard to deny! I have a small assortment of square nuts from my grandpa's hardware stash. I use 8 pt. sockets often on engines for pipe plugs, for soft ones(brass or aluminum) only a square one will work! (Hello Snap On)
With you all the way on the subject of not disposing of books John. I only did it once back in '89 because of restricted space in my home (gave them away to charity stall) and regreted it almost instantly. When I went back to the stall later that afternoon and asked how they went I was surprised to find they had all been sold. Now, 31 years later I'm still scouring secondhand book stalls and flea markets trying to buy them back..... Ahhh well. PS. Love your channel. Keep on keepin' on mate. Stay safe and merry christmas!
Great video really enjoyed it. Your right about books, can’t throw them out. Bet you are glad you are retired with the snow coming tonight!
I like books too. Great square nut info. I like the awl too.
I try to use square nuts when possible. We have an old time hardware store closeby that has a great assortment of old hardware.
Great video there Betty Crocker LOL
Here there and everywhere! I learned a few things today...thanks!
I always save an old square nut when I find one! One day I'll thank myself when I'm restoring something
Always a pleasure John, thanks and Merry Christmas!
Man I really did like the smell of that old book ha ha
You can’t beat the old stuff great quality from taps.
To books to tools old stuff is still the best .
Great video scout god bless take care 🗽🙏🇺🇸🥝
We used to have square nut on the railway; the big advantage was they tended not to slip even with an ill fitting spanner
I agree John, square nuts are better than hex. Any time I find them I keep them. On my boiler and water heater drain valves I put end caps on them to prevent leaking. I saw you paused on spaetzle in the cook book, my favorite German side food.
Steve! My Grandmother made awesome Spaetzle... With pea soup! Yummy!
I can remember my mom would get so mad when I'd bring home stuff from the garbage, but you're right, books don't belong in the landfill.
Thanks for sharing. Good video. 👍
Am sitting back, relaxing, ahhhhh!
I put Butter and Heavy Whipping Cream in my Coffee. That carries me to Noon/ Lunch. And heck, my cholesterol is low, good high. lol
Lowes has 2 types, of what you call Globe Valves.
A Hose Bibb is for the use of connecting a garden hose to. i.e. To wash your car.
A Boiler Drain is for draining a boiler/hot water heater fast. It turns open faster.
Love the square nuts. Hard to find anything with them still on nowadays.
Wasn't the food it was the smokes!
I have plumbed many air systems in my life & the introduction of Teflon tape back in the ‘60s created a whole host of problems. Mostly the tape getting into the air stream & fouling up valves & other devices downstream. Also we started having air leaks in our systems. Teflon was developed by the aerospace industry & everyone thought it was the cat’s meow. Many times our work was inspected by another agency & invariably they would find leaks. We would have to redo several joints & we would go back together with tape and lock tight. Problem solved. Tape works ok on perfect threads but rarely are they perfect. I found a little secret about sealing pipe threads. I’m order for a leak to occur, the Fluid had to follow the helix of the thread to the low pressure side. Plug only a tiny spot on the helix & you’re good to go. Merry Christmas by the way.
Hi Steve! Great tip!
I was an early adopter of tape, then I couldn't get a chromed brass fitting to seal up. I remembered how Turk, one of my old man's droogies swore by pipe dope. Bada-bing-bada-boom, a dab of pipe dope sealed it right up.
I love the Huey Lewis and the news reference in the titlle of this video....
I am a new subscriber and love your channel. Please stay safe in the upcoming storm!
Thanks Warren! Welcome!
I used alligator pliers? On square bolts yesterday on an old machine, you could get much better than 90 degrees! And since the nuts are much softer they are really nice on your tools
So by need, the offset open end wrench was created, soon to multiple siblings of various designs.
Forgot I use pipe dope with teflon bits. Stays in place and easier than rapping tape in tight places
Funnily enough, I am a plumber! Blue monster teflon is amazing, I always use both teflon and "dope" if I'm running gas. And really it seems everybody does threaded fittings differently, personally I use both on all npt threaded connections because it never leaks, but it's all personal preference. Message me on instagram if you ever have any questions 😎
Thanks so much! As you know professionals always know the right way from experience! 😃👍
@@ScoutCrafter Your welcome 😎
I liver on a farm for 49 years. All old farm machinery used square nuts. Never a problem with them, even with a sloppy fitting wrench.
Joel! Yes!!! I think many farm implements still come with Square nuts! 😃👍
When I was going to auctions first was tools second was books...i have some really nice ones and you can learn some old trade technics...invaluable...
You have a cat well about two weeks ago a chicken showed up and will not leave me alone... follows me everywhere when I'm outside...i now have one chicken and one small coop...and feed...lol...stay safe crafterman....
Man eating the fresh rye bread out of the bag was a family tradition. My father would take us to Brooklyn army terminal to get the tree and wreaths, and then we would go to the bakery on Flatbush. I can't stand the globe valves as well everytime in our house I go to shut them they never shut the water completely. My father wasn't a plumber per say but steamfitter and he showed me the wicking and pipe dope, but we would mainly always do Teflon tape and pipe dope and that's what I've stuck with, but some old timers say if that doesn't work especially old brass radiators to go back to the wicking and swear by it.
Love it John what more could you want hardware and birds on the Telly 🤣👍⚒️
ScoutCrafter, you need to get out of the 80's and 90's thinking, Lard and butter are healthy. There is nothing wrong with fat! They were having heart attacks from smoking, drinking and carbohydrates. Love the video, keep them coming.
My mother and Grandmother used to rave over "Goose Grease Sandwiches" made from goose lard and Onions... LOL
The majority, if not all of the pipe dope has PTFE (teflon) with non hardening compounds and whatnot, so thinner, but will make a seal on the threads. The tape is more solid, and lays on solid over the threads, and can put a few wraps around the threads, 3-6 depending on the thread condition. While I was with one company, we always worked in the mechanical rooms with the steam turbines and water pumps and chillers, so on and so fourth. One of the co-workers put the dope first, then the tape. I asked him why he did it like that, a technical answer shortened; "He hates call-backs." Some background, these buildings were built in the 70's, some like the financial district, possibly around the 20's.
I've dealt with those square nuts and bolts. I was always curious when the switch happened from square to hex. I don't think I'm as crazy about hardware as you, but I definitely appreciate it. Especially brand new hardware in drawers at the hardware store.
I use hemp with plumbing grease for threaded fittings. only because I've taken apart ones that have been there for over over 100 years that haven't leaked
Scoutcrafter- the antidote to lockdowns, thanks again...
Pipe dope all the way, except natural gas and propane lines. Then yellow Teflon tape.
When I was running the heavy freight into Oak Island yard in Newark, NJ. Before the van driver took our crew to the hotel in the Meadowlands, we would stop in the Iron Bound section of Newark at a Portuguese bakery. You gained two pounds just walking in the door. Fantastic pastries, breads, rolls, anything you could imagine.
Outside the rail yard were several lunch trucks. They served breakfast and full dinner meals. I always wanted a sausage, egg, cheese, potato, green pepper sandwich on a Portuguese roll. Man, that was living. Those spots for the trucks were highly coveted. Competing truck owners were known to have shoot outs over spots. Of course you would take care of the driver as well. Sandwiches, cookies, baked goods, coffee, oj, anything they wanted to show your appreciation for them stopping even though they were not allowed.
CM! Portuguese Rolls are in a class by themselves!!!!!!! Oh man are they good! =D Thanks!
thank you !!!!!! i am soooo happy thank you
Books: When clearing out our folk’s home, we were lucky to get $1.00 per old book (my folks had several van loads of books). Except for special books - no one wants old books. (Not saying it is right - just stating the facts.)
Food:
1. It was interesting that in the 60’s, when we ate “unhealthy” - that there was less of a weight problem (my relatives and myself would never be accused of being too skinny).
2. People enjoyed their food more back in the 60s and 70s since more people knew how to cook (since we went out less). Most cooks had a special recipe. One lady had a special butterscotch pie; another had a special cake; another a casserole. Even with the food network - we don’t have that now. A cook is a minimum wage job instead of an important job to feed the household.
3. People were generally happier in the 60s and 70s compared to now. More people were living that lived through the depression/WWII and understood what tough times were. I could always tell a man who went hungry during the depression by the way he ate (clean plate).
Brian- Sad but true. Books are soon to be obsolete going the way of VHS I'm afraid...
Same cookbooks I still have. Never use now but never throw away.
I knew right away when Toby said that we would find you with your tongue stuck to a flag pole. You would not be able to leave that copper alone. 😂
Ball valves are the only valves worth using.
And I use yellow "gas" teflon tape on most any tapered connection. Two wraps. White teflon tape is useless.
I only use pipe dope on gas lines. Soft set.
Youse guys are tough! Lol! We don't even walk in little Pauls Valley, Oklahoma (unless we be packing! Lol! ) at 3:00 AM. I watch an old wagon/buggy restorer (EnglesCoachShop) and I wondered why he used square nuts.
Dave is awesome!!! Square nuts and rivets on everything! 😃😃
When I'm fitting gas lines, I use dope. But anything water, im using tape.
I olso like this nut and lucky me..i got it from old door in my area..it brits made..but i rely like it..
When i was young; the square nuts were often called Farmer's nuts. Dave Engels who is a wheelwright on the youtube channel engels coach shop uses them exclusively on the old wagons he repairs and builds. Check him out, he's amazing with his workmanship.
Paul! Dave is the best! ua-cam.com/video/NqcvW7eBgp8/v-deo.html
Love your stories :]... Butter is a Super food:]...and if you would have left those books you'd be tossing and turning trying to sleep :]zzz...demanding cats i know the feeling:]
I think 16pt sockets work on square nuts. It’s been a while since I turned a square nut.
I remember years ago, my uncle, who was a plumbers helper, would use cotton string with some schmutz on it, to wrap the threads.
They still use it in the UK!
"Only crazy people are out at that time." - hello, John? ;-)
I have a complete set of Craftsman 8-point 1/2" drive sockets that I have had for years. When you have to have one; NO OTHER socket will work, So, I don't mind square nuts in the least. Outside of lag bolts, you don't really run into them unless it is an antique of some sort.