Is ADHD Real?
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2021
- I think the difference between it being a diagnosable condition or not is if the one with the disorder is suffering/struggling due to the symptoms of ADHD. If not, then you either are living very differently to the modern way of life or you don’t have it at all.
What do you think?
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For many years I thought that ADHD was not real, but I think very differently now that I m older...
Yeah there was a point in my life where I thought I knew what it was... until I realised I had it!
@@FindingYourSerenity Hi there I am a subscriber of your channel and of yours too Patrick. Just wanted to say thank you :). I think this is a really important question I've written a little about it I would like to discuss it with you some time. You are really at the edges of philosophy with this question and it might take being exposed to an alternative theoretical approach to really articulate what you know to be true. I'm trying to work on it at the moment.
Anyway my name is Samuel and im 30 and Im from Birmingham and i have ADHD I was diagnosed when I was 28.....after being kicked out of school and then failing uni for 8 years I got diagnosed and passed and now I do postgraduate research at UCL into this very question.
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In philosophy the study of what is real or what exists and also how things exist is called ontology. Typically we say things are real or exist when you can point to the physical (material) world and say that some thing is made of a certain kind of stuff which is structured/organised in a certain kind of way.
Substantive ontologies maintain that entities are
identifiable as such through determinable and objective differences in substance (stuff). According to this worldview substance is ontologically prior to relations; ‘things’ exist independently of our apprehension of them. Relational ontologies on the other hand maintain that entities appear to us as a totality of unique mutual relations which is prior to apprehension or demarcation of any particular entity. There are no external, objective, ‘things-in-themselves’, the ‘thingness' of any discernible thing is contingent (relies) upon its relations. Evidence of the real world consequences of these alternate ontological positions can be seen when we consider the approach taken towards Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) by healthcare and education researchers and practitioners.
A substantive (and quite familiar) ontology of ADHD might proceed along the following lines:
The neurological mechanisms which characterise ADHD are chronic disruption of impulses within neural networks due to insufficient levels of certain neurotransmitters across the synaptic gap. If a neuroscientist analysed the electromagnetic signals and blood flows in an ADHD brain and the levels of neurotransmitters such as dopamine across the synaptic gap they would find deviations outside expected or normal limits. These deviations would correlate with other members of the population who display similar chronic presentations. The neuroscientists’ findings would appear to demonstrate a substantive correlate for ADHD i.e. the physiological difference between those with ADHD and those without. Treatment can thus proceed along the basis of stimulant medication so that tonic levels of neurotransmitters can remain within normal boundaries and the presentation of ADHD will become less problematic. In this case ADHD refers to a substantive neurological divergence which is in common with other individuals and which correlates with real world presentation. With ADHD’s substantial and conceptual reality established researchers can begin to conduct experiments and devise interventions, educational institutions can begin to make accommodations and differentiate tasks, and teachers can begin to know what ADHD actually is and understand it as a naturally occurring individual impairment.
Conversely, a relational ontology of ADHD would not attempt to establish the substantial and
conceptual reality of ADHD, in fact such an endeavour would make no sense. This is because in the eyes of the relational ontologist there is no such thing as ADHD above and beyond the particular contexts in which it shows itself to us. ADHD does not refer to some substantial correlate in objective reality nor some essence or commonality amongst similar individuals, as such it is not an appropriate object of knowledge or study in and of itself. In this view ADHD merely denotes difference or deviance from the norm which is simply a relation between the spectrum of individuals. Additionally ADHD (particularly when understood as a disorder) only reveals itself in relation to certain contingent aspects of our world. The physiological and behavioural presentations common amongst those diagnosed with ADHD should not be considered as evidence that ADHD exists in and of
itself or that it should be conceived as a ‘driving-force’ for how and why people behave in a certain way, it only ever exists itself in the relations
between individuals and a specific situated context. In such a view any attempt to ‘treat’ ADHD as an impairment by pursuing individual medical and academic interventions would misplace the site of disability within some essential or substantial fact of nature rather than as a product of contingent (and therefore changeable) relations.
Both approaches would state that ADHD is real but I think that we might get further with the second one than the first. The first conceives of it as a disability, the second one just accepts divergence as a self-evident and fundamental fact because everything is understood in relation to other things. The second approach therefore takes seriously difference and invites us to become more inclusive whereas the first leads us towards the erasure of difference.
I take elvanse lisdexamfetamine but I do it because otherwise I get punished by the world, it really does help me. But I could get by much better overall if everyone just cut me some slack once in a while. We all need to cut each other some slack every now and then really.
@@samuelstrafford That's super interesting. I very almost did a philosophy course once. I really like the idea of neurodiversity - it takes away thinking of ADHD as a problem. It clearly is but I always knew that it was only a problem because of modern society and how we all need to be productive in order to feed ourselves. The low self-esteem aspect comes from not living up to standards that we are supposed to imo. Have you recognised that lots of people with ADHD also just happen to be the kinds of people who cut other people slack? Because we know what it's like for others not to? Most ADHDers are pretty humble from my experience. I'm still struggling between doing what is best for myself and also for others around me (mostly work tbh).
"Your never on top of anything in your life" Yep, that's me. However whenever I say something like that the answer is almost always, "life is hard for everyone" or "everyone struggles with life" I feel like those things have been said to me so often that now I'm questioning my own reality. Everywhere I look I see people with functioning lives, partners, can do a full time job and I cannot do any of that. I feel life is getting harder, there's more paperwork for everything now, I even need two permits to go to Melbourne and back.
It doesn't matter that I have a ADHD, Dyslexia and ASD1 diagnoses, I look the same as everyone else so I'm expected to cope the same as everyone else.
I have aspergers and adhd and speak my mind and I think your are a gorgeous woman.thankuou for sharing your videos they are helpful 😊👍
Wow, really great video! Shots fired! Hahahahaha! I have been on the skeptical side of this discussion, but I want to make it clear that of course there is a there, there, because if nothing else we have hard evidence with people studying the prefrontal cortex of people with ADHD. I guess the thing that makes me want to react against it is mainly the nature of depression, because depressed people generally find it impossible to concentrate, and sadly, I am intimately familiar with this mental state that's maybe like a manic phase of depression where my attention is just an electric fire, but then even within that state I will randomly snap out of it and hyper-focus.
So I guess to be more clear, my concern is that, at least for me, there is something truly inconsistent about it, and it almost weirds me out when sometimes for no apparent reason my own symptoms will just basically disappear. I am sure this is like preaching to the choir for ADHD people, and probably mine is actually pretty severe, but it just gives me pause to occasionally wonder how my emotional health seems intrinsically linked to the severity of the symptoms, which then makes me question if it's even ADHD to begin with, and maybe it's just symptoms that are actually subsumed by Schizotypal Personality Disorder or some complicated form of depression. Anyway, the journey continues! Thank you Sarah!
Interesting... I guess depressed people would find it harder to concentrate perhaps due to the lack of interest in things. I found that with my own ADHD, it lead to the point where I was so anxious, depressed and running out of air that I absolutely had to get diagnosed. The poor mental health state I was was a product of several things but about 90% was caused by my ADHD itself. Medication showed me that was true because it took away the depression and reduced my anxiety a hell of a lot and I had been in a low place for years at this point. It was hard for me to keep any of my life together and I was constantly frustrated and overwhelmed to the point where I didn't believe I could ever be content in life. The reason why many ADHDers get diagnosed later in life is because they tend to see someone about their anxiety and depression, not realising that the root cause of these is ADHD. I am doing a little experiment now reducing my dose as you know and making lots of notes and currently struggling to do the jobs I needed to get done tonight and also had a problem driving where I was about two seconds away from hitting someone on a bike - that was truly scary that this was a possibility and something I don't want to happen ever again. When I am putting other people's safety at risk, something has to be done. In the past I had coping mechanisms but on the 25mg I could drop most of these and so I need to build up them again to avoid being distracted or zoning out. This is the main thing I am worried about atm. I am writing pros and cons list to see if it is truly worth staying on a lower dose. As far as concentration goes... do you not know about hyperfocus? (: It has always been one of my favourite ADHD traits!!!
@@FindingYourSerenity Well and I owe it to myself to try medication for it in my adulthood probably, so point taken there! The thing that makes me nervous about your story is every now and then I kind of scold myself back into being a hypervigilant driver when I notice myself getting a touch careless. And actually maybe hyperfocus will be my real key to getting properly deeper into this, because I know what it feels like to me, but maybe now it's time to compare notes with ADHDers!
Well said 🥰
what does adhd mean?
Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.
I think its related to personality type.
I've often wondered this. It appears to me more associated with high Ne or perhaps Se (I'm thinking more YungBlud with this one). Unmedicated I have a highly scattered brain. I tend to find introverts are more likely to have the inattentive kind and extraverts the impulsive-hyperactive kind. I have heard of all kinds of personality types having ADHD, though, so I could never really prove it.
@@FindingYourSerenity by the way what's your type?`
@@brocklytodd5317 INTP (:
@@FindingYourSerenity I'm INFJ Fe subtype