Instead of ad reads, my channel is funded directly by people passionate about the Great Books. Help me keep making more episodes with a paid subscription: johnathanbi.com Some links to further guide your study: * Join my email list to be notified of future episodes: greatbooks.io * Full transcript: open.substack.com/pub/johnathanbi/p/transcript-for-interview-with-stephen-greenblatt-on-love Companion lectures and interviews: * Lecture on Shakespeare's Caesar: Coming soon. * Stephen Greenblatt on Shakespeare's social ambition: Coming soon. * Stephen Greenblatt on Shakespeare's literary genius: Coming soon. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 0. Introduction 02:27 1. Shakespeare's Bad Marriage 09:04 2. Why Shakespeare Didn't Write Good Marriages 25:40 3. Shakespeare and South Hampton 28:56 4. Shakespeare Leaving his Family
quite the compliment. I loved his lectures and actively studied his style for my own. I loved how conversational he makes it sound (much more so than I) ... my only issue with it is it's often not that rigorous and systematic (on this front I recommend prof. Charles Matthews who did an excellent series on City of God). I'm trying to combine the two styles with respective tradeoffs of course.
@@bi.johnathan I've really admire your distinct presentations. I searched "Charles Matthews" but I couldn't see related results. I searched with "City of God " series, his name didn't popped up, only Augustine of Hippo's audiobook. How can we get his lectures?
A beautiful beautiful beautiful conversation. I enjoyed it thoroughly. I got hooked quickly at the Intro when the Professor said at 0:35 - "I had the experience of meeting someone whom I felt this is not fungible, this is absolute... I happen to be married to that person." He studied the greatest writer/writings on love and also experienced it. Professor Greenblatt is a lucky man.
Man your settings in which you record are amazing;it takes me into a whole new world in which I feel llike I am a part of it ,t's so immersive.Wind blowing in the bakground makes it even more romantic!
Really excited and waiting for an analysis on Dantes Divine Comedy, I think its a work that needs a profound exploration, loved the videos on Rosseau, Nietzche and Girard tho.
It is quite interesting to think of it from a Jungian lense when it comes to things like anima projections and archetypes etc. Lady MacBeth as The Dark Feminine.
At 80 I no longer believe love is everlasting. It has a time limit. An expiration date. Different for every relationship. Do I think this good or bad? I am not sure. Does attempting to keep love alive, cause one to miss out on a love of another? Maybe a greater love? Loving someone cuts off loving others with the same passion. Is it even possible to love anyone eternally. Forever? Forever is a long time and we all change. Ideas, feeling, passion all change. We can outgrow our partner which effects our feelings toward them. Yet we force that love to maintain. Why? Convenience? Prodigy? For better or worse men seem to not be suited for lasting love. Biologically, we we made to procreate. Once a woman conceives, she is bound by biology to maintain a relationship. Mainly for the nurturing of that offspring. A mans roll is essentially over. I don’t condone nor reject this notion. I am conjecturing here. We all have the capacity to love many individuals. All at the same time and yet we disregard or resist loving others because of the monogamistic beliefs instilled in us from birth. And by society. But this is mainly based on economics and inheritance. Property nor wealth should influence or determine our continued love for someone.
The algorithm knows that my mental health improves and I watch less UA-cam after I watch a Bi video so it tries to hide them. You would think if I search Jonathan Bi his most recent video would be a relevant result, no?
I love someone one sided , I waited her 1 year university canteen, after 1year later she pop up, I can't explain my emotion, I lost my being, I feel nothingness,
Romances could last forever. Since these are selfish, all of ypur energy goes to keep it, so ypu can actually be in a romance forever. But is always selfish and limited. LImited to one person, or to one family or to a profession ( musician, writer), so you will never have the energy to love.
I cannot see any evidence that William Shakespeare did not love his wife. There are potential reasons why William probably went to London. It is possible that a risky childbirth of two younger twins meant that Anne could not safely have any more; he could not get a suitable job in Stratford (see the Sonnets on how God did not supply a respectable career or patron for him); the deer stealing story could have been true. His fellows said he went home for a month every year, in Lent. As an actor, London was the only place he could make a decent living, not always touring. As a creative genius and poet, he had to write and being and living alone helped him do that. He gave up living in London as soon as he could. In court in London, he said he was resident in Stratford. There is a sonnet "The hate away" i.e. Hathaway one that says "she" was real "love". The court case he appeared in was all about him pushing matrimony, on someone else. His plays are the same. Germaine Greer was right that their financial success demanded two people working together. He left Anne massively cared for and is buried at her side. My own feeling is that she was a thoroughly decent Christian countrywoman (her brother was churchwarden). She did not like London and its elite (while he could shine among them due to his poetry and rapier wit, if not his classical learning) but she may have gone up e.g. to Hampton Court, now and then. Anne was his anchored, rustic, Arden, "fairy" side. She kept him earthed and balanced, not neurotic or self pitying (there are elements of that tendency in the Sonnets). I think there was a hidden "climbing", aspiring part of Shakespeare's life that also drove him to London, for a period and got him into court circles. But it ended up as dust and ashes, before he came home to her, to his luxury home (having lived in digs) and to his garden and pension (which was the land he had saved for and brought for them both).
Love has a wrong definiton. Love is never about YOUR partner, or YOUR child, or YOUR family or YOUR country. If it is about YOU, it is selfishness. Love is about acceptance of the others, about seeing that everybody is right, taht everyybody is perfect, that everybody is beautiful,. What your have with your country, your child or your boyfriend/girlfriend is just romance, never love. Irinef you think you have to protect yOUR family, YPUR country ainst others, is not love. If ypu clean YoUR house, and put rubbish, or chlorine out so that will affect OTHERS but YPURS, ypur acts are not loving, are selfish. Love is about thinking about everybody's wellbeing, not only YOUR family/country/children/, etc., again that is selfish. Love is the opposite of sefishness.
Instead of ad reads, my channel is funded directly by people passionate about the Great Books. Help me keep making more episodes with a paid subscription: johnathanbi.com
Some links to further guide your study:
* Join my email list to be notified of future episodes: greatbooks.io
* Full transcript: open.substack.com/pub/johnathanbi/p/transcript-for-interview-with-stephen-greenblatt-on-love
Companion lectures and interviews:
* Lecture on Shakespeare's Caesar: Coming soon.
* Stephen Greenblatt on Shakespeare's social ambition: Coming soon.
* Stephen Greenblatt on Shakespeare's literary genius: Coming soon.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 0. Introduction
02:27 1. Shakespeare's Bad Marriage
09:04 2. Why Shakespeare Didn't Write Good Marriages
25:40 3. Shakespeare and South Hampton
28:56 4. Shakespeare Leaving his Family
“Love is not love which alters when it alteration finds, or bends with the remover to remove” …etc
really do remind a lot of us of the late Michael Sugrue 🥺- Thank You for your contributions to reigniting the minds & souls of modern Humanity.
quite the compliment. I loved his lectures and actively studied his style for my own. I loved how conversational he makes it sound (much more so than I) ... my only issue with it is it's often not that rigorous and systematic (on this front I recommend prof. Charles Matthews who did an excellent series on City of God). I'm trying to combine the two styles with respective tradeoffs of course.
@@bi.johnathan Where would one find Matthews' lectures? Are they publicly available?
@@virusesdetected8709 yes, you can listen to his city of god series on the great courses its excellent
Yeah, when I first heard him speak Michael Sugrue came to mind too . Their way of speaking is also similar
@@bi.johnathan I've really admire your distinct presentations.
I searched "Charles Matthews" but I couldn't see related results. I searched with "City of God " series, his name didn't popped up, only Augustine of Hippo's audiobook. How can we get his lectures?
A beautiful beautiful beautiful conversation. I enjoyed it thoroughly. I got hooked quickly at the Intro when the Professor said at 0:35 - "I had the experience of meeting someone whom I felt this is not fungible, this is absolute... I happen to be married to that person." He studied the greatest writer/writings on love and also experienced it. Professor Greenblatt is a lucky man.
Man your settings in which you record are amazing;it takes me into a whole new world in which I feel llike I am a part of it ,t's so immersive.Wind blowing in the bakground makes it even more romantic!
Zoom in from 0:54 to 2:17. When you are doing a solo shot, with that bg music and deep talks, the zoom in effect will be a cherry on top. Greetings.
Steven From Ghana 🇬🇭. I agree with most of his views, you are doing a great job brother. You ask brilliant questions 👍🏾👍🏾
Love your lectures ❤.
People today understand little of love really is. Perhaps the depths of a true love can only be fully realized within marriage.
Please what's true love, and how is it's expression?
Great great interviews always, a lot of thoughtful questions 👍
Next recommendation:Analysis of romeo and juliet why many people hate it and what was the message behind it?
Really excited and waiting for an analysis on Dantes Divine Comedy, I think its a work that needs a profound exploration, loved the videos on Rosseau, Nietzche and Girard tho.
This is fantastic! Also, you look like a young version of my dad.
dude you're exceptionally well dressed; would appreciate a video or two on how you style yourself for different ocassions
Great videos
I had enough romance married my wife based on love not infatuation.
always awesome
thanks! two more interviews with this prof coming up, one of my favorites so far.
Rooting for JB. Let's make him famous guys
It is quite interesting to think of it from a Jungian lense when it comes to things like anima projections and archetypes etc. Lady MacBeth as The Dark Feminine.
This is amazing content
At 80 I no longer believe love is everlasting. It has a time limit. An expiration date. Different for every relationship. Do I think this good or bad? I am not sure. Does attempting to keep love alive, cause one to miss out on a love of another? Maybe a greater love? Loving someone cuts off loving others with the same passion. Is it even possible to love anyone eternally. Forever? Forever is a long time and we all change. Ideas, feeling, passion all change. We can outgrow our partner which effects our feelings toward them. Yet we force that love to maintain. Why? Convenience? Prodigy?
For better or worse men seem to not be suited for lasting love. Biologically, we we made to procreate. Once a woman conceives, she is bound by biology to maintain a relationship. Mainly for the nurturing of that offspring.
A mans roll is essentially over. I don’t condone nor reject this notion. I am conjecturing here.
We all have the capacity to love many individuals. All at the same time and yet we disregard or resist loving others because of the monogamistic beliefs instilled in us from birth. And by society. But this is mainly based on economics and inheritance. Property nor wealth should influence or determine our continued love for someone.
The algorithm knows that my mental health improves and I watch less UA-cam after I watch a Bi video so it tries to hide them.
You would think if I search Jonathan Bi his most recent video would be a relevant result, no?
I love someone one sided , I waited her 1 year university canteen, after 1year later she pop up, I can't explain my emotion, I lost my being, I feel nothingness,
Unfortunately not :(
it seems like there are some like prof. greenblatt who can make it work!
he has a christopher waalken thing going, where is that accent from
Parents knew better.
arrange marriage FTW
Romances could last forever. Since these are selfish, all of ypur energy goes to keep it, so ypu can actually be in a romance forever. But is always selfish and limited. LImited to one person, or to one family or to a profession ( musician, writer), so you will never have the energy to love.
I cannot see any evidence that William Shakespeare did not love his wife. There are potential reasons why William probably went to London. It is possible that a risky childbirth of two younger twins meant that Anne could not safely have any more; he could not get a suitable job in Stratford (see the Sonnets on how God did not supply a respectable career or patron for him); the deer stealing story could have been true. His fellows said he went home for a month every year, in Lent. As an actor, London was the only place he could make a decent living, not always touring. As a creative genius and poet, he had to write and being and living alone helped him do that. He gave up living in London as soon as he could. In court in London, he said he was resident in Stratford. There is a sonnet "The hate away" i.e. Hathaway one that says "she" was real "love". The court case he appeared in was all about him pushing matrimony, on someone else. His plays are the same. Germaine Greer was right that their financial success demanded two people working together. He left Anne massively cared for and is buried at her side. My own feeling is that she was a thoroughly decent Christian countrywoman (her brother was churchwarden). She did not like London and its elite (while he could shine among them due to his poetry and rapier wit, if not his classical learning) but she may have gone up e.g. to Hampton Court, now and then. Anne was his anchored, rustic, Arden, "fairy" side. She kept him earthed and balanced, not neurotic or self pitying (there are elements of that tendency in the Sonnets). I think there was a hidden "climbing", aspiring part of Shakespeare's life that also drove him to London, for a period and got him into court circles. But it ended up as dust and ashes, before he came home to her, to his luxury home (having lived in digs) and to his garden and pension (which was the land he had saved for and brought for them both).
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He says "maybe" ALOT.
Love has a wrong definiton. Love is never about YOUR partner, or YOUR child, or YOUR family or YOUR country. If it is about YOU, it is selfishness. Love is about acceptance of the others, about seeing that everybody is right, taht everyybody is perfect, that everybody is beautiful,. What your have with your country, your child or your boyfriend/girlfriend is just romance, never love. Irinef you think you have to protect yOUR family, YPUR country ainst others, is not love. If ypu clean YoUR house, and put rubbish, or chlorine out so that will affect OTHERS but YPURS, ypur acts are not loving, are selfish. Love is about thinking about everybody's wellbeing, not only YOUR family/country/children/, etc., again that is selfish. Love is the opposite of sefishness.
Bro doesnt have half of ur charisma, would much rather hear u speak about this 👍
Utter nonsense.
the only reason a man stays with his woman for a long time is because the women is the mother of his children... its not love....