Overtime: John McWhorter, Sam Stein | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
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I love Professor McWhorter. One of the few people unafraid to articulately call it like it is in a calm and rational way.
His only claim to fame is the perpetual sneer he has and his hatred of anything black
So what you mean is he will allow you to feel good as a racist and doesn't affect your White fragility.
@@KCal1213 Wow, a lot of assumptions packed into that comment.
@@bluegregory6239 you are a product of a culture that is built on White male supremacy. You are going to like anyone who doesn't disrupt your White fragility.
He just sneers at stupid. And we all get why that hurts you.
Great to see John McWhorter on the show. Respect!
Seize all university endowments and redistribute them as reparations.
@@charleBerglund depending on what you intend to repair, it’s an awful lot of money swallowed up by administration and amenities that could directly endow local economies and the real world
He’s been on here before. Was way better this time. Usually he blabs and blabs with no point
This Maher's rant was insulting my intelligence! I don't like squad & I think they're sellouts,but Bill said that Biden bands to their will??? In a galaxy far away......
@@josiplilic3384 totally agree. how in hell has Biden bent to their will? What??? If he's bent to anyone's will it's Joe Manchin.
Love that Mr McWorter is getting more msm exposure. He deserves it, people deserve to hear what he has to say.
Very bright guy.
I feel like we ALL deserve to hear what ANYONE has to say.
@@williamfriar6295 in theory… but in practice…I just don’t accept that ‘all opinions are equal’…
More milk toast
Good writer, he'd make a great host on MSM.
This was the best Overtime I've watched in a long time; very real and jovial.
And also full of crap...Maher's false idea that Biden caters to lefties. Not sure where he is getting this from.
Argh! Bollocks ! Nothing beats the old "4-man full panel roundtable" O'rtimes o' yore , says I ! Says I ! Harrumph!
I usually find Overtime better than the show itself
I wish Cuomo was on it.
The MSNBC guy is a dips@@@ that was trying so hard to make Biden's career look more impressive. He's the guy that was a punchline and laughed out of the 1988 election.
As a 3rd party member, it is very hard to get on the ticket in all 50 states. The two major parties make it impossible through lawsuits and media doesn’t invite third parties to debates. We need a rank choice system as people also become afraid they are “throwing away their vote” by taking the risk voting 3rd party
I hate how the 2 parties do this crap to 3rd parties. We did not talk about the Greens getting thrown off a ton of ballots.
It's not a risk that you are throwing away your vote if you vote third party. You ARE throwing away your vote.
all of the outside parties (Libertarian, Green, People, Forward) should all be working together to get some form of ranked choice voting and open primaries on the ballots locally so we can change the entire system from the inside. Even though time is of the essence I don’t see Andrew Yang and the Forward Party going hard at the presidential campaign until 2028 when more of those voting reforms have been enacted but I am sure if the right moment arises they want to be poised to jump in. Hope to see Cumo talking to those folks very soon 🧢
Even if third parties became a significant impact in congress, all R&D’s would do is battle for swing votes and spoiler makers. This country is fucked.
@@locustjohn3865 Explain me this - what is throwing away your vote? You have two parties which are both bought by the same donors and do pretty much the same thing but occasionally put up a show about some social issue to pretend that there is a genuine choice. So they will argue about civil rights. abortion, trans community etc. but 95% of the laws they enact are pretty much the same because they have to keep their donors happy.
Ha ha! Great to have Bill back and love the guests tonight. Sam Stein is hilarious.
And very smart!
Sam has had some really funny times on Morning Joe.
Trash guests
GREAT Overtime! I'm always excited when McWhorter's on, but props to Sam Stein - he was pretty hilarious this show and it was great to see them laughing so hard. Refreshing!
John McWhorter was hysterical tonight!
If everyone who says they want a third party actually voted that way, it would work. Maher touched on this, but it is very possible. People just need to follow through.
If that party is centrist I will vote for it. However, Yen isn't centrist. As extreme left as the Democratic party has become, nobody in that party dared to propose giving away "free" money to everyone. Daring, but not centrist.
Millennials became the largest voting block a couple years ago but don't show up to vote. They can change everything but are lazy/disillusioned
It was Cuomo's idea.
100 %
It’s that those people dont vote in PRIMARIES.
Voting 3rd party in the general, outside of a ranked-choice system, is stupid. It’s really really stupid. Strategic voting exists. First past the post voting systems doom 3rd party. Yang’s ranked-choice reforms are the key before it can be considered
In my experience, most people who don't follow through on voting for a third party are so terrified that the candidate they hate will win that they choose not to "throw their vote away" and instead vote for the candidate most likely to beat the candidate they hate. They're not voting *for* someone, they're voting *against* someone.
I can't tell you the number of people who have said something like that to me. And it comes from both sides. So voting for the person they believe will do the best job does not matter as much to them as making sure the candidate they hate doesn't win.
If Trump runs again, how many Democrats will vote for a candidate they really like in Yang's centrist party if they believe the Democratic candidate has the best chance of beating Trump? The same goes for Republicans.
Totally agree with you. I believe Biden won not because American's were so ga-ga about him, it was simply a vote against Trump. Very interesting to see where the midterm election will go. (Can Democrats get enough people out to vote to hold onto their majority in Congress?)
I completely agree for the presidential election... But why is it that we do not see more third party representatives in local elected official like governors (0 third party out of 50)? Even in New Hampshire, a state supposed to be a libertarian paradise, they have no libertarian in their state house of representative. 400 representatives, a huge number for such a small state, and out of 400 there are 0 libertarians, and no other third party. Why do you think that is, that states don´t try it more often to elect third party? Is it that the Dems and Reps have such a big influence that they always manage to kill off any third party campaigns?
@@riviereeric7004 I would assume if the election process is the same (FPTP and the likes) then the issue would be the same where a 3rd candidate would just devide the vote and allow the more "concetrated" votes to vin. The only way to make more parties viable is to have representative elections, where seats are assigned based on percentages and not winner takes all systems. THAT is why you get only 2 parties/coalitions. In fact I'd argue that Dems are not one party and a collection of many, would you have representative elections the dem party would shatter in several ones, less so the republican party I guess now that they are cult like, but there could be also an emergence of right wing parties. TLDR: FPTP is the (biggest) problem.
@@riviereeric7004 For one, libertarians are loonier than shithouse rats.
Exactly why there should be preferential voting as in Australia.
Overtime should have two guests more often, with a maximum of three guests - it's less chaotic.
and a lot more stupid, radical centrists being so dumb they don't even know what they are talking about FORNIGHT IS FREE, FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Oh, thank you, guests, for the reminder that this isn’t the only era when people have threatened to take up arms against the government.
I see John McWhorter and I know it’s going to be a conversation with some common sense.
Get your visions checked.
Typically. He couldn’t understand how Manchin is ok with a 450 billion dollar bill, but not 1.7 Trillion. Maher explained it, John brought it up again, and Maher moved on. 1.2 Trillion+ is the answer.
🤡🤡🤡
I see him and I know white supremacy is not far behind
@@pdfortune manchin is a fool
Hope u support the health care bill for our vets ! Jon Stewart standing up & speaking out 👍👍👍👍👍💙
He's on fire as always
How about healthcare for all? Only supporting healthcare benefits for vets is about as smart as supporting California legislation that only seeks to providing UBI for trans people. If we're only talking about select groups of people, then we're not supporting sustainable, long-term change.
@@ncorp2668 Jon Stewart needs to attend fewer celebrity dinner parties. The same could be said of Bill Maher.
@@maryhalverson5713 even if this is true, it has nothing to do with anything. famous people hang out with other famous people, actors, politicians, athletes... get over it.
I’m a physician and I’m all for va healthcare as long as we tackle the problem of veterans all trying to figure out how to get there disability to 100 percent so they pay no property taxes. It’s a scam. Literally I have veterans who come in on a daily basis and literally ask me can you help me get disabled so I can get 100 percent so I can get mine.. everyone else is. I’m like hell no you got the wrong guy here. Forgot those who are truly disabled or extreme ptsd from war.. most of the veterans are not 100 percent disabled. Not even close but they are all trying to get it. They end up hiring attys to help them build there soft cases and it’s disgusting. Many of them flat out tell me they simply don’t want to work at all.
To those disabled I got your back 100 💯 if you are faking you are taking advantage
The image of “grandpa Joe” getting rid of the annoying grandkids is spot on 😂
proving what a boomer u are if you think this is a legitimate metaphor, when fortnight is free
@@rightwingersexposed8800 micro transactions
@@zacharykaiser5910 yes and?
@@rightwingersexposed8800 so it does cost money, my friend!
@@zacharykaiser5910 Except it doesn't, you can buy things but it doesn't cost to play.
So your metaphor is completely irrelevant and wrong.
Boomers gonna boom
I think John may be right. The issue that's missing from the conversation is the concept of "critical mass". The question is not whether a 3rd party can be launched successfully but whether a critical mass of disenfranchised Americans who don't want to vote either Democrats or Republicans has been reached.
LOVE John McWhorter!
This show is so much better with smart people and rational logic, I could watch this panel every week.
Yeah don’t know ONE person who smokes weed suddenly thinks, Hey now it’s time to try this meth I’ve heard about
Loved the conversation tonight ❤️
Yes, it was very entertaining and thought provoking, and funny all at the same time.
The Fortnite analogy is spot on. 😂😂😂
Minnesota tried a "third-party" Governor in 1998. Jesse Ventura beat both the DFL and the MN GOP governor candidates and was elected Governor. Without a party in the Legislature on his side, he got nothing done.
That's so true! Never thought of that!
Lol he was an oaf, good guy and all, but he was too hostile to work with anyone
Awesome show tonight, thanks Bill!
I’m scared of voting for who I really want and “wasting” my vote and having the one opponent I hated the most win.
Same here!
"wasting your vote"----???????----so u would rather vote 4 some1 u don't want------??????--------just to be in "the crowd"------????????-----i vote for who i want in----period...........
I happily vote "third party" even though I'm Swedish and have 8 established and viable parties to choose between. Establishment rot is establishment rot, no matter if it is within 2 or 8 established parties.
I'm so happy that Bill Maher is back!
Thank you for the amazing and wonderful people you had on the show tonight!
It always picks my spirits up when I see on the TV Guide that the show is new!
Have a great week and looking forward to next week's show!
You rock Bill Maher! 💖😊💖
Who the hell uses TV guide anymore?? Is it still being printed? Lmfao
I agree with you!! I loose my shit and
When he goes on vacation, its a f bummer. I saw him and Iooked and he was on last night!! Whooooo! Thanks for saving the weekend and the rest of the year!
@@MrDeceptacon88 that is pretty gd funny! I have forgotten about it till now!! Thanks! I am only 59 but I was there!! 1963 and don't even have a f clue what's really going on with these people who have been in the office since I was a f kid!! Gd go all of you and let us help you help us christ I know this , wtf happened, I live in Kansas and in the mid 60's & 1/2 way into the 80's we use to hang out at the park and talk listen to Boom boxes smoking weed out ya know not bothering anyone just having a good time i know I did I am a loner and I use to wander around this strip mall town and the fucking Jayhawkers took over my f town and have a laughable attitude that well bill you know this f place is where the Koch bro you know I don't have to toss names! I f hate it I am not w this at all I have been away since 1983 and I have lived in New York city and that at that time was the best time and the years were good I was only 20 when I was living there f I have had the best life growing up in the time I did, I have no f idea what the fuk I don't recognize it as living it's a f help me please please save my ass from this or f let's roll in together
I still watch old school live cable television and use the guide channel. I still believe in the magic of scrolling through the TV Guide channel and discovering new things and having things air when it seems appropriate I should watch them (like when something you were recently talking about winds up being on television that night, or you see some movie or documentary that seems eerily connected to something you're going through in life). The convenience of on demand streaming is nice but we've also lost something with it. It's like how nobody turns on the radio anymore and discovers new music, now they go to look for what they specifically want to hear. Well I guess music services like Spotify have algorithms to recommend new bands you might also like, but it's different than the magic of just turning something on and saying "what is THIS?"
@@MrDeceptacon88 older people and people who like tactile media
No, Republicans "stealing" Perot's points isn't what stopped him. It was his dropping out of the race claiming the Democrats and Republicans were trying to ruin his daughter's wedding, then trying to get back in, that did it.
Agreed. I was all in on Perot, until he quit, then rejoined... oh yeah and that clueless old man with the hearing aid as his running mate absolutely scared the shit out of me!
America never deserved a great man like Perot.
Agreed: had he stuck with it he'd have been a much bigger threat to the establishments than he was, though even with his message & money I'm not sure it would've been enough. Remember his full TV spots where he explained his plan to fix what was wrong with graphs & such? Not just attack propaganda. Problem is I doubt even he would be able to compete with today's social media manipulation of a growing majority of voters, unless he had his own media platform. Only someone that rich could stand up to the incorporated politics of today & if they're that rich, they probably support enough of one side or the other to join either flock. Even then, if you did get such an outsider into the Whitehouse, they'd never get anything done with the establishments running the other branches & with the support of the media on either side of the divide, they'd be spun as the bad guy outsider.
Remember the Vice Presidential debate?
@@homelessjesse9453 Trudeau had a great cartoon. Every panel was a guy at the foot of the steps, talking to a home owner at the door. The first was something like "I'm the electrician, I'm here to fix the toilet." The second was similar. The third was "I'm a software salesman. I'm here to fix the country." Sure he was great...
glad bill is back
John McWhorter... love him. Logical!
When we get over ‘left’ and ‘right’ a little common sense will prevail. Politics needs to be about the improvement if life on the planet and fir the benefit of people. Sadly, greed, ego and hubris, particularly among male politicians still rules.
We?
Right, and which party has the ideas for doing that? I'd argue the left. But Bill apparently thinks better healthcare, cheaper education, and better paying jobs are radical ideas...
And the removal of White male supremacy.
@@ryanbarnes840 The problem becomes the left doesn't realize that things like better healthcare costs money. Far more money than can be raised simply by taxing corporations and the wealthy.
@@locustjohn3865 Wrong, the left does realize that, they just think it's worth the money, as do I. Also, you talk about how expensive it is? You do realize we have one of the most expensive healthcare systems per capita in the world already, right? So tell me how it'd be more expensive than what we've already got? Again, more excuses. Yes, it will take more than just simply taxing the wealthy and corporations, but you know what? That's going to be a huge chunk that goes into it. It's ridiculous that something as important as healthcare is being talked about like it's new living room furniture. "Gee honey, you think we can afford it?" Yes, we can, and it's worth it. Tired of this dishonesty. We have no problem paying for wars, no problem bailing out the corrupt wealthy corporations when they make irresponsible decisions, our politicians have no problems getting rich, pretty sure we can afford healthcare if we really WANT it.
The keyword here is want. If you want to admit it, just say it. It's not a priority for you. That's fine, but I think it's time to stop being selfish. We're ranked really high among developed nations when it comes to people dying from preventable deaths, and our life expectancy has gone down over the last 20 years while countries in Europe have gone up. That's not a random occurrence. That is completely and utterly tied to the fact that people don't want to go to the doctor when something might be wrong because it's expensive. Even to people with healthcare, there's a co-pay, not to mention the bill you get after the visit. No, this has to change. So again, Bill is a corporatist stooge who was advocating for this just a few years ago. Now he's all about the woke left. Pretty sure getting healthcare is more important than worrying about woke teenagers.
What an awesome episode!! Delivered in everyway 👏👏specially the comedy department. Sam Stein is fukin hilarious 😆.
Says a person that just made a UA-cam account. Why would people trust you? They can track your number online, don't you realize that?
Sam Stein needs his own show. Pretty funny for a Journalist.
Thanks Bill Maher and guests and crew! What a microcosm of USA 🇺🇸 this episode was. Very good 👍
I want a 3rd party... and a 4th, and a 5th, and so on. The issue is, the only thing the democrats and Republicans can agree on is they don't want to give up the stranglehold they have on the American political system. The one thing they'll join together on is to obliterate any chance for a new party to be a viable option.
It's true. Things will have to get alot worse before they get better I think.
You're 100 % correct
It is good to see Bill back. I'm glad that he gets time off, but as a fan, I hate the hiatus. Bill has always been awesome.
I wish Bill would go away. I mainly hate-watch him now.
@@oldsesalt8496 He can go away for you. All you have to do is not watch him. Anything I don't like, I ignore completely. This method has worked very well for me for 46 years.
Bill maher is terrible now. He calls people like AOC a radical and thinks Biden is "bending" to them. The radicals are the GOP and people like MTG. Of course, the one issue that affects Bill, marijuana, he's suddenly progressive again. But if it doesn't affect him, like the environment, healthcare, abortion rights he couldn't care less.
@@bruceleeroy8302 Thank you for pointing out that you are unable to realize that AOC is just as radical to the left as others are to the right. I love it when people fail to see these things.
@@vcvortex6356 I agree, she is radical in all the ways you’ve mentioned
Really great guests this week. Bill Maher actually asked the right questions and made the right comments for the first time in THREE YEARS plus years.
Love this show
Me too! Are we twins?
@@ZYX261 maybe
My name is Brandon
I wish there were more like it. I fear Bill will retire one day and we will be left with nothing but Fox News Trumpers and MSNBC liberals ….
The best "Real Time" in ages thanks to Sam Stein and the brilliant John McWhorter!
Notice you called him brilliant. He is one of the articulate Black folk you might let in your house to serve you at your dinner party.
Great fun talk!!
I believe that part of yang and the forward parties platform is ranked Choice voting. Their belief is that if rank Choice voting is our process then voting for that third party candidate becomes less of a risk.
The lack of third (and fourth) parties in America isn't really due to lack of money or to the voters but to the political system itself. Such a multiparty setting is only viable in a Swedish-style parliamentary system or some kind of mixed-member proportional representation. Ranked-choice voting might also give a shot to third parties.
Exactly, they constantly miss the electoral system piece of this puzzle, even careful considerate people like McWorter.
As an American, I agree but on the more harsher side. This country is full of stupid people that vote for hypocritical fck heads. Aoc, pelosi, turtle face and Ted Cruz. People used to keep who they supported and voted for quite, now they shout it as loud as possible. The system is jacked for sure but it’s the people that will always fck anything up. Just sit back and watch it burn, you’ll sleep better at night.
How is the unicameral parliament any different than our bicameral legislature? In my opinion, the difference is not so much the structure, but rather the maturity... Our legislative branch has existing much longer and developed differently. Our founding fathers did not expect to have a two party system, that developed as a result of our individualistic focus, population growth/diversity (Sweden is very hegemonic), and the various political parties merging/consolidating in order to have enough power to pass laws at the Federal level.
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The one thing that would have made a huge difference, and still would be a benefit to our society, is the "Single Subject Rule"... Think about what we have now, we pass a law that appropriates $500m, and while only $15m benefits XYZ group, anyone who votes against the bill is deemed to hate XYZ group - ignoring the fact that the other $485m is a waste of money for pet projects of those in Congress (also called pork)! That is our problem...
@@godofdun The electoral system has nothing to do with our legislative branch. Rather, it is a consequence of our legislative branch/structure. Our problem is we have let the President become what it was feared to be, a dictator in charge of a single party ruled democracy.
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In the beginning, there was initial consideration to having the President elected by the Senate, but it was deemed best to have the President elected by the people so that the President could protect the people from Legislature; hence veto power unless a super majority, as to avoid tyranny by simple majority, overrides the veto.
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Ironically, the risk our founding fathers tried to mitigate is exactly where we seem to be headed by those that do not understand our governance structure, as a Republic, and seek a single party, simple majority, dictatorship over all citizens. Frankly, we might as well just let China take over as they at least have worked out the problems with a single party democratic dictatorship!
It actually makes me giggle when Americans bring up "Swedish-style" because it's pretty evident they have no clue. Almost all European countries have multiparty systems. Even the UK has Liberal Democrats who sit somewhere in the middle and SNP - Scottish Nationalist Party. Having a system with only two parties, both of whom are almost equally despised by large parts of a population is a sign of a broken democracy. There is obviously the other side of a spectrum - Italy, who has tens of different parties and who had more governments since WW2 than years that passed since ( I think on average an Italian government lasts 1.57 years) and they had close to 80 governments since WW2. So there is a level of instability on the other side of a spectrum, but there is a sweet spot somewhere in the middle where citizens have genuine choice of what policies they want and who will represent them. Most of the countries have coalition governments because no one party dominates (not always but most of the time) and this is conducive of moderation and understanding that democracy runs on consensus and compromise. All the silly, American "Swedish-style", "it cannot work elsewhere" is just a complete BS. It can and it works. Stop looking for excuses and sort yourself out.
That was a hilarious Q & A session.
Great panel and a great show.
Great conversation!
Best one yet! Thanks gentlemen.
A centrist party? Count me intrigued
How about the "Sane" party? I wish.
Sam Stein has always been funny AF!!!! He'd be an excellent guest at Club Random!!!!💝
1:11 This is the entire problem with the US political system. Why should politics 'require a lot of money'?! That's crazy talk.
The best Overtime ever.
Bills story of keeping pot behind his nuts going through airports genuinely mad me laugh out loud. never stop Bill the world needs your humor now more than ever.
It's Snot! BluntHilarious 😁
But isn't his story about needing to carry pot behind his nuts so he has something to smoke while flying proof it's an addictive substance? Most people wouldn't need any
Glad to see Chris Cuomo on Bills show tonight. Great dialogue between these guys. Excellent guests and very entertaining and thought provoking.
Fredo is as fake as his Covid quarantine …. The common man doesn’t live in the Hamptons Fredo ,
Glad Chris has a podcast, miss Andrew too as the NY Girls sure piled up on him. Didn't like the politics of the way he got shoved out.
@@jannichi6431 Did you like how Andrew effectively killed thousands of people in nursing homes with his Covid nonsense?
@@williambartholmey5946 In perspective, Andrew saved and educationed more to GET the VAX to prevent death than any other single individual at the time. Nursing homes are individual businesses with individual liabilities. NY has far more oversight of the industry than my southern state would ever. Following the story at the time was tragic, however the media covered video blame seemed misguided and only reinforces my point, Cuomo was targeted.
@@jannichi6431 You really need to read up on Cuomo's reckless handling of the nursing home situation during the first year of the pandemic.
Thanks Bill.
i missed your show.
thank you for making my Saturday great again.
The 3rd party conversation should not have been strictly about the presidential race. It has better chance succeeding in lower positions. Congress, mayors, etc.
Very true
How is rank based voting not part of this conversation? If you're wanting a central 3rd party you need to remove the fear mongering politics from both parties and their 2 party system.
It was mentioned during the show. Also, fear mongering will always be present somewhere, so deal with it.
Because it's stupid.
He invited
He incited
They rioted
Then he denied it
Even though he'd implied it
Now he must be indicted.
You mean Chuck Schumer?
@@alexjflow No. He meant Maxine Waters.
So ignorant
In the age of the intenet, I've always been surprised there hasn't been another Ross Perot. He actually led the '92 campaign at one point (in at least one poll).
So now they’re saying Biden is too left bending to the will of AOC and Bernie?? 😂 Give me a break!
you cant talk about the possibility of a third party without mentioning ranked choice voting. cmon bill
How can we solve our problems when our criteria for a "leader" is someone with a personality? Instead of vetting someone for their effectiveness we want them to entertain us and be likeable. And when problems is not solved we blame the elites?
Yeah, imagine looking for a medical doctor you need and what you look for is 'personality'...
Real life isn't an actor in a TV show for entertainment purposes. I want skilled people who I can believe can get things done be it a politician, mechanic, nurse, or whatever. Go make imaginary friendships somewhere else.
Ranked Choice Voting would be a nice step forward. Not sure the duopoly would like it but it's what the people need for better political choice.
Solid point with the "Nader effect"....it's terrifying but if there was ever a time....it's now
The "cold civil war" terrifies me. If there were a real civil war here, I might have to move because I live in Kentucky! I live here because it's affordable, but the people keep electing Mitch McConnell. If I have to move to a more expensive location, I might end up on Section 8 and food stamps. That's a scary possibility for someone like me, who takes pride in independence.
blessing to you and your sensibility, places like Austin difficult, the get mine NOW mentality $$. Keep safe, hope the floods have you and yours dry and safe😢
More people favor a peaceful separation like Secession. Expect to see that on ballots across the country especially in border states.
@@genebrooks5824 I think those most likely to want to secede would be surprised at how much federal money they get and how much it costs to secure a border. Then there is the extreme weather conditions and resulting disasters. No federal support then either.
@@patsysadowski1546 Much of it comes from just 4 states those being Texas, Florida, California and New York so the South and other FLYOVERS could be supported by TX and FL along with new trade deals with like minded fascists regimes. As long as they respect the new borders , that's all that matters.
move to Austin TX it's inexpensive and the most liberal part of Texas
I'm a big fan of John McWhorter! Who else can so eloquently call out the ridiculousness of both sides? Lose the party affiliation people, for the good of us all. We need an Independent Party, like yesterday.
Just stop voting. It literally doesn’t matter.
@@michaelhutchings6602 You're right. We need to change that or else we're screwed and no one should have kids.
@@jasminecrandall2262 Why? Just don’t vote. Voting is a pointless activity that accomplishes nothing.
McWhorter is on the payroll of the right-wing think-tanks funded by the Koch Network, ALEC and State Policy Network
@@michaelhutchings6602 not voting got Trump elected.
Now there's a hiding place I never would have thought of. Genius!
Now if I can only find a set of balls somewhere...
'Are you on the pot?'...... is exactly what my mom used to ask me when I was in high school
Lol
So it's all about 'Popularity' (without substance) & lots of money (without considering value)? ... Yeah ... sounds like the America we're seeing today.
When has being a moderate created change ever?
Why is it always change? How is the government responsible for "change." Change for the sake of change is vanity. If anything they need to be out of most of what goes in in this country as they are the creators of messes
John and Sam are great. Bill must admire them: he didn't interrupt them. I hope we can keep large corporations out of the pot industry if the Feds legalize it.
Great show
Idk. Maybe a third party is viable at this point. I want a government that works. How is it that meeting the needs of our country has been labeled radical?
We all know that in 2024 it's going to be trump vs Biden. I hope I'm wrong but the system has never let me down in regards to always letting me down.
I understand your point but I disagree for a few reasons, The Republican party/ most Conservative voters understand that they need independent voters and maybe even some pissed off progressives to win. Ron Desantis has better leadership skills, he's clearly younger, smarter and less bulls@@@. On the Democratic side, I don't even know if Joe will make the 2024 election with his decline that we are seeing right now, there's no way that the DNC will use him again, he has all time low approval ratings, he's on his way to being the worst President a least in more modern times and the Democrats are going to get crushed in the midterms. Let's say your right, Trump beats Biden but that will be a depressing election if that happens and I'm not even going to vote.
Trump will be dead or in prison.
Your awesome!! New Rules perfectly done!!!!
I really liked how John McWhorter interjected to keep the conversation on point to Bill's question about a viable 3rd party. Sam Stein just wanted to hijack the question to sing praise to Biden.
Expected. Hell Trump's formed his own republicans haven't realized it yet...
Notice that Biden Supporters never post anything Pro Biden? It’s all just Anti Trump.
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Christian Nationalists need to form their own party.
Trump was a tea party president.
I believe Chris Cuomo also proposed a ranking system of voting in which you rank the candidates 1,2,3 etc. Or just vote for one, or two. The winner would be anyone who achieved 50% of the 1s, and 2s. Nadar would not have spoiled the vote that way.
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Great panel.
"It's snot!"
"No it isn't!"
"It is... it's snot!"
"Look, either it is, or it's not.. which is it?"
"It's SNOT!"
"AH! So you admit it's not!"
"... I'm too high for this...."
Even though we have mass social media, it sure as hell doesn't help that anyone not democrat or republican are barred from televised debates hosted by tv stations that get most of the attention of the "normie" folks. The average person probably works all day and grabs an hour or so of news a night on tv before bed. To know a third party is to be involved online more than the average person. So, if there is an absence of a third party voice on a medium consumed by most of the average electorate, then how can they get enough steam to get votes. That's why you have some third party people like Jill Stein do stupid crap to get on the news just to be seen by the average person to even be known to exist in the first place. Old media is still very much in control of who makes it and who doesn't, despite our massive social media's.
Yes but keep in mind the retired and average person over 40 is slowly aging and the generations born into the internet are aging to voters that don’t watch the 6 o’clock news. It’s just a matter of time that the media networks will lose control over their narrative in a decade. HOWEVER we all should be concern about net neutrality and that subject should be very important for the third party narrative.
People are generally not barred from debates based on their party. There are people from the major parties who can't in debates either in presidential primary cycles. They're barred based on support polls, because at some point you have to draw a line somewhere (you can't just have have 300 people or whatever on the stage debating). And the debates themselves have less and less importance in terms of determining people's votes in modern politics anyway.
yep
Awesome show tonight!
Also, i hope that Donald gets ousted and runs as an Independent, hopefully this will shatter the establishments, and HOPEFULLY, Yang or a Bernie-like (heck, or Bernie himself) candidate will take the victory.
If America wants more parties, reform your legislature elections to something similar to Germany’s.
Germany had God only knows how many political parties when it spawned the "fuhrer" , but I don't think that matters if 2 parties can produce,( via some _"mephitic miasma"_ ) , something as horrible as a trump
Because it worked so well for them.
Whats the real gateway drug? Spinning in circles until you're so dizzy you fall down. We're all just chasing that first high. Criminalize spinning in circles!!!
Oh the nerve to say ANYTHING about President Sniffer to say "get out of my hair"
Money money money smh. Take money out of politics and that solves it.
The only way you can take money out of politics is to stop people's right to self-expression.
@@strategicsage7694 incorrect
If I'm incorrect, please correct me. What specific ways can money be taken out without doing that?
@@strategicsage7694 put a cap on campaign funds
Whether or not the new third party will work depends on the US voters. So, I disagree with the idea that it needs a personality nowadays. Maybe Maher is on point here. SO MANY of us are exhausted with this present system. I'm on board with it. (so far the people behind this are Andrew Yang, David Jolley and Christine Whitman) This was a funny overtime. Two professional journalists lol'ing at the marijuana story.
It depends on US voters but also on all current politicians. If US politics were any other business it would have already been taken down on competition / antitrust ground for exactly what Bill describes: your idea tracks so it is adopted by one of the two parties. The way to solve it and solve the money issue is quite simple. Put a cap on how much money can be spent: 500 k or 1 million for a house / senate race. In the age of social media anyway, you can do a lot for free. And then maybe other ideas can be heard. Fringe ideas, or centrist ideas can be carried on their own.
But if you want to look at what the current system does then this is the data for the most expensive senate race ever. 260 million spent by 4 candidates and the groups supporting them. well actually the 2 independents spent 39 k total.....www.opensecrets.org/races/summary?cycle=2020&id=GAS1
But whilst more parties allow more ideas to be heard, it won't be on its own. France had 12 candidates for president yes about 50% of the population only voted. So in the end you still need charisma and something that gets people to the polls.
In that case, vote Libertarian. They're already on the ballot.
@@lesliefish4753 Maybe. But we now know that the Libertarian party itself is just too scattered. And I have voted Libertarian a few times at the state level. Just saying.
Same here.
Happy your back Bill!
"... it's 'de facto' in effect".
What a quote, I fell about laughing - thanks Bill, you made my day.
I AM going to take many of the jobs away from the Major Modern-day Preachers
Welcome back Bill!
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What a GREAT 👍 Panel...
I love when he has academics/professors on
The parties shifted to the extremes when moderates left them to become Independents. Every registered Independent leans towards Republicans or Democrats. Independents should join the party to which they lean and vote in the primaries. This would produce more moderate general election candidates. For example, right leaning Independents in Pennsylvania would have prevented Doug Mastriano from being the GOP nominee if they had voted in the GOP primary. But they weren’t there to vote.
??? There's only one extreme party, the extreme right Republicans. The democrats are center-right. There's no big party left of center in the US.
If you think the Democrats are extreme you are too ignorant to have valid opinions.
Great show Bill!!! Hope you had a great vacation. Keep it up! So true on the planetary population!!!! See Bill Barr!!! lol
decriminalization is the correct path for marijuana, not legalization.
Dr. McWhorter is an American, nay, GLOBAL treasure!
In "In the Valley of Novelty," Terence McKenna said that someone once challenged him to ask the mushroom how to save the world. The next time McKenna was on mushrooms, he did ask, and the mushroom, "without a moment's hesitation," answered, "each person should parent only once." McKenna observed:
"This is an astonishing idea. This is not zero population growth, this is population falling by 50% every 20 years from here on out. If people in the high-tech, industrial democracies would limit themselves to one child, almost immediately the destruction of the Earth's ecosystems and resources would halt. We preach population control in the third world, but the statistics show that to a woman in the first world who has a child, that child will consume between eight hundred and a thousand times more resources in the course of its lifetime than a child born in Bangladesh, or some other third world place."
One must think the mushroom was a comedian.
Ah, so the China one child policy was actually good /s
In all seriousness I hate Elon being Smug about helping keep up population growth when population growth is a major reason the environment is in trouble
Unfortunately it's not realistic, so I say go with Bill Burr's idea of randomly sinking cruise ships. They're full of people who won't be missed.
If we just distributed electoral votes proportionally instead of first past the post we’d already have a diversity of parties.
Also states like California would be in play because every vote would actually count without needing a direct popular vote.
Are you proposing that the percentage of the vote each candidate receives is the percentage of the state's electoral votes they receive? So, for example, since Florida was a pretty close state in 2020 where the vote was split 51% Trump and 48% Biden, are you suggesting that FL's 29 electoral votes should have gone 15 Trump and 14 Biden?
@@fishbone3333 basically the Maine or Nebraska method. State winner gets extra two votes while the rest go by proportional allocation or by district.
You then could have strategies where Republicans can steal elector votes from California or third parties can appeal to independents across state lines
@@DubsBrown I see what you are saying, but that model is extremely unfair when you consider how gerrymandered the districts are.
Currently, we have some states where the statewide vote tally is near 50/50 but the GOP has a +4 or more Congressional delegation advantage because of gerrymandering
Under your proposal, GOP presidential candidates will consistently win the electoral college while failing to garner a plurality of the popular vote. We already saw this with Bush 2 and Trump and your model only makes it worse.
That wouldn't have anything to do with third parties getting anywhere.
@@michaelmorningstar8645 It could conceivably prevent a POTUS candidate from getting 270 Electoral Votes, which would throw the election to the House of Representatives (one vote per state) where the Republican candidate would win
One of the few times the zinger got Bill instead of the other way around
Sam Stein was great in this.