Certainly an economical way of brazing as opposed to having the oxy/acet tanks, with the extra cost of tank rental/lease if not used on a daily basis. Great work overall, thanks for sharing!
Cool to see that repair done. Haven't of that aluminum bronze wire before, but seems to have done the trick to save that cool old vise. One bit on the abrasive discs, feel like you are always better off finding an abrasive company online and ordering in bulk instead of the box stores. Not only are they cheaper, but seem to be better quality too. I personally ordered a batch from a company called Heleta a few years back (like 50 cut-offs, 20 grinding, and a few flap discs). Been very happy with all their stuff. And similar to that bundle your buddy mentioned, they have a free sample back to try out their stuff for just shipping.
It actually worked better than expected. I need to try and find the link for the discs my buddy was talking about and put it in the comments. It is better to buy them in bulk for sure.
Oh, i just got the idea of the thing.... you are basically gluing the parts together rather thsn welding. At this point, it's brazing but using tungsten electrode instead of oxy-acetylen torch. I had commented before, maybe a bit fast as i paused right after i heard TIG for 'welding' cast. Now that i hear aluminium bronze (would have used silicon bronze myself) and see the whole thing, it's not so much welding as it is brazing. Congrats on the job, i have no doubt it will do the trick as the risk of a hard, stressed induced break is minimum from brazing (or gluing) versus actual welding. Thanks for sharing! Take care, from the same area as my initial comment, hehhehe :)
For appearances have you considered Blackening the repair? I googled this, and have never tried it, but it sounded interesting. Yes, bronze can be blackened to visually resemble cast iron through a process called "patination" by applying chemical treatments that create a dark, oxidized layer on the surface, although the exact appearance might not perfectly match the deep black of seasoned cast iron due to the different metal composition. Key points to consider: Chemical Patination: This is the most common method to darken bronze, using chemicals like liver of sulfur or ammonium sulfide to create a dark patina. Appearance Difference: While the patina can make bronze look quite dark, it may not achieve the same deep, uniform black color as well-seasoned cast iron. Metal Composition: The difference in metal composition between bronze (copper alloy) and cast iron (iron with carbon) means that the patina on bronze might have a slightly different color tone.
@@Jake.of.All.Trades you should do that, especially for resale as it looks better and more 'honest' of a repair for any potential buyer. You can, at the moment of sale, suggest ways to camouflage the repair but doing it before might be taken as a 'shady' move...
I have the same model Emmert, broke the part of the pivoting hinge that screws down to the bench's top surface. Welded 'er up with a simple stick welder just fine. You're looking at around 80lbs there too.
anot saying it won't hold, at all, but tIG is certainly not the best choice for welding cast... athe issue with tig is that the TAZ is immensely bigger AND sharper than with any other process. It can be done, yes, and can be very successful, i've done it many times. Secret is in the pre and post heat and recovery, as with any other process but in my opinion, more so with TIG than SMAW. Rod or stick (smaw) is the 'go-to' process for cast iron of all types in my opinion and according to the welding bible (the dark red book most old farts like me have). I wish it well and please, don't take my comment as another one of them 'coc*Y replies' from the never ending welder 'baltle arena' of past and present.... Thanks for sharing, clean break like this has a great chance of success altho a vise is always hit and miss considering the forces involved and potential for misuse... Take care and again, thanks for sharing! From Qc, Canada!
Certainly an economical way of brazing as opposed to having the oxy/acet tanks, with the extra cost of tank rental/lease if not used on a daily basis. Great work overall, thanks for sharing!
You are welcome.
Cool to see that repair done. Haven't of that aluminum bronze wire before, but seems to have done the trick to save that cool old vise.
One bit on the abrasive discs, feel like you are always better off finding an abrasive company online and ordering in bulk instead of the box stores. Not only are they cheaper, but seem to be better quality too. I personally ordered a batch from a company called Heleta a few years back (like 50 cut-offs, 20 grinding, and a few flap discs). Been very happy with all their stuff. And similar to that bundle your buddy mentioned, they have a free sample back to try out their stuff for just shipping.
It actually worked better than expected. I need to try and find the link for the discs my buddy was talking about and put it in the comments. It is better to buy them in bulk for sure.
Oh, i just got the idea of the thing.... you are basically gluing the parts together rather thsn welding. At this point, it's brazing but using tungsten electrode instead of oxy-acetylen torch. I had commented before, maybe a bit fast as i paused right after i heard TIG for 'welding' cast. Now that i hear aluminium bronze (would have used silicon bronze myself) and see the whole thing, it's not so much welding as it is brazing. Congrats on the job, i have no doubt it will do the trick as the risk of a hard, stressed induced break is minimum from brazing (or gluing) versus actual welding. Thanks for sharing! Take care, from the same area as my initial comment, hehhehe :)
For appearances have you considered Blackening the repair?
I googled this, and have never tried it, but it sounded interesting.
Yes, bronze can be blackened to visually resemble cast iron through a process called "patination" by applying chemical treatments that create a dark, oxidized layer on the surface, although the exact appearance might not perfectly match the deep black of seasoned cast iron due to the different metal composition.
Key points to consider:
Chemical Patination:
This is the most common method to darken bronze, using chemicals like liver of sulfur or ammonium sulfide to create a dark patina.
Appearance Difference:
While the patina can make bronze look quite dark, it may not achieve the same deep, uniform black color as well-seasoned cast iron.
Metal Composition:
The difference in metal composition between bronze (copper alloy) and cast iron (iron with carbon) means that the patina on bronze might have a slightly different color tone.
I'm not sure what I want to do with it . I'm going to leave it as-is for now I think.
@@Jake.of.All.Trades you should do that, especially for resale as it looks better and more 'honest' of a repair for any potential buyer. You can, at the moment of sale, suggest ways to camouflage the repair but doing it before might be taken as a 'shady' move...
I have the same model Emmert, broke the part of the pivoting hinge that screws down to the bench's top surface.
Welded 'er up with a simple stick welder just fine.
You're looking at around 80lbs there too.
nice. Need to try to save these things.
@Jake.of.All.Trades How much you want for it?
anot saying it won't hold, at all, but tIG is certainly not the best choice for welding cast... athe issue with tig is that the TAZ is immensely bigger AND sharper than with any other process. It can be done, yes, and can be very successful, i've done it many times. Secret is in the pre and post heat and recovery, as with any other process but in my opinion, more so with TIG than SMAW. Rod or stick (smaw) is the 'go-to' process for cast iron of all types in my opinion and according to the welding bible (the dark red book most old farts like me have). I wish it well and please, don't take my comment as another one of them 'coc*Y replies' from the never ending welder 'baltle arena' of past and present.... Thanks for sharing, clean break like this has a great chance of success altho a vise is always hit and miss considering the forces involved and potential for misuse... Take care and again, thanks for sharing! From Qc, Canada!