The Dark Side of TF2 Trading - Price Manipulation and Racketeering

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2024
  • Every community has a dark side, and the TF2 Trading Community is no different. This is a part 2 to my last video of how I 'thought' I made over $1000 opening crates/cases, and instead learned about The Dark Side of TF2 Trading.
    This is an informative video to bring notice to these types of players within the community, and help inform newer players to avoid getting involved in these types of situations and about how items on backpack.tf are fairly and properly priced.
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  • @IDGCaptainRussia
    @IDGCaptainRussia 2 роки тому +20

    As someone who has dealt plenty in rare and limited unusual hats, I can say this thankfully hasn't happened too much in trading.
    There was something like this a friend of mine got engaged in, but that was more of the only people who were selling all inflating the price of this one hat for the memes, they didn't go out of their way to pressure anyone on that price (and it didn't last in the end).
    Also I'd add a 4th point to your suppy and demand section: Miscs, which are hats that do not take up the same region and can be stacked with other hats, these are very rare now-a-days and often exceed 500 keys or even low tier effects. (bought a Miami Nights Polar Pullover, all class misc, for 300 keys, sold it a few years later for 1000 keys, these things have skyrocketed in price!)

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому

      Hey, thanks for the comment! It's good to see another point of view from someone who's an experienced member of the Trading Community. Thank you for adding that 4th point about Supply and Demand section, that's something I didn't even know about!
      Pinned your comment for everyone else to see this useful info :)

  • @_Podzilla_
    @_Podzilla_ 2 роки тому +38

    One of the things I've heard were people hoarding strange gunslingers then purposefully deleting them to keep prices high

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому +6

      Huh, that's really interesting. That seems like such a waste, but after everything I learned I wouldn't be surprised 😅

    • @viket8316
      @viket8316 2 роки тому +4

      Why not just make alts and put then on private backpacks so backpack dont detect them

    • @Cat-Luck
      @Cat-Luck Рік тому

      @@viket8316 They can ask support to give items that they deleted back

    • @StinkyPinky.69
      @StinkyPinky.69 Рік тому

      Steam support doesnt give deleted items back anymore @@Cat-Luck

  • @dmc112
    @dmc112 2 роки тому +20

    Man, this is a genuinely wonderful video in both info and editing. Thanks for the nuggets of knowledge!

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому +1

      Ayyy thank you so much!! I'm glad you enjoyed the video, I'm hoping to try and make more videos like this in the near future; about TF2 and other games :) I think this was probably the most fun video I've made on my channel up to this point 😋

  • @Omni_Omen
    @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому +14

    This was a very fun video to make! I hope you all might have learned something new today, Omni Gang. Always make sure to stay vigilant when it comes to TF2 Trading, and make sure you don't get scammed and made to pay far more for an item than it's worth. Shoutout to the person who helped me even be able to make this video; wouldn't have been possible without you, and I definitely wouldn't be nearly as knowledgeable as I am now 😄

    • @tovarischeheavy4695
      @tovarischeheavy4695 2 роки тому +2

      idk how you have less subs than me and i don't even make videos anymore but You deserve a lot more, keep up the grind brother, Hmu if you ever want help. :)

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому +1

      @@tovarischeheavy4695 Thank you so much my friend! I really appreciate it :D the grind never stops 😋

  • @solotf2
    @solotf2 2 роки тому +20

    500 keys was unrealistic price indeed.

  • @Chell1
    @Chell1 2 роки тому +3

    Keep it up with the videos! You're on my reccomended, you made it in the algorithm!

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому

      Thank you man, I'll do my best :) been a bit hard to work on the videos I currently have in the works, just lost my Grandma 2 weeks ago and my dog of 14 years yesterday, but I'll try to be back to making even more soon

  • @daddymccrackin4677
    @daddymccrackin4677 2 роки тому +6

    opening new crates and getting new effects is always a rollercoaster, very easy to manipulate or cheat people out of keys.
    I got lucky opening a wicked wick duck billed hatypus and a horsemann's hack prehistoric pullover, both 1:1s, and selling them is gonna take a while until prices stabilize

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому

      Oh for sure, it's one hell of a wild ride seeing the purple text, and no doubt it'll take some time before the prices for all the new unusuals get stabilized; congrats on the unboxes by the way!

    • @Kwaish
      @Kwaish 2 роки тому

      I keep finding you all over the place jodding. This gotta stop

  • @GordonTaylorThomas
    @GordonTaylorThomas 2 роки тому +5

    only figured it out after the racket was exposed by someone else huh

  • @darknight101g_Gameing
    @darknight101g_Gameing 2 роки тому +3

    Welcome back hope you stick around and stay frosty

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому +1

      I'm back and sticking around for sure! I'm working on a really big video right now, hoping to get it out early December :D

    • @darknight101g_Gameing
      @darknight101g_Gameing 2 роки тому

      @@Omni_Omen Sweet can't wait to see what you come up with

  • @CountlessPWNZ
    @CountlessPWNZ 2 роки тому +6

    Could this explain the price of collector's items?

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому +3

      It very well could; I've heard there are oftentimes many instances of intentional hoarding and price-fixing within the TF2 Trading Community for certain items, a previous comment even said that people were hoarding Strange Gunslingers and deleting them to keep the prices high, and I know for sure there's gotta be more items being manipulated like that.
      There was even a story about someone buying multiple Golden Pans and if I'm not wrong it wasn't even very long ago, so who knows? There's so many items within TF2, and with all the different Unusual Effects; there's no telling how many items could be being price-manipulated.

  • @BreezeBlockie
    @BreezeBlockie Рік тому +1

    Wow! thank god you brought this to people's attention. It's been a problems for as long as I remember, I think this was happening even in 2012 or 2013. This really did kinda scam a lot of poeple i guess

  • @DrFyder
    @DrFyder 2 роки тому +2

    This was really interesting. I never traded before but maybe I do later. But then I will inform myself well

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому +1

      Research can be your most valuable friend in order to get the best and correct value for your keys or items! I'm glad this video was helpful :)

  • @tremonstergaming2490
    @tremonstergaming2490 2 роки тому +1

    Bro really went sonic sayz mode at the end

  • @ytczech2746
    @ytczech2746 Рік тому +2

    One tip. Turn fast switch in advanced settings.

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  Рік тому +2

      I didn't even know that was a thing lol, thanks for the tip! ^_^

    • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
      @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 Рік тому +3

      @@Omni_Omen most knowledgeable tf2 trader

  • @LakiGamingSRB
    @LakiGamingSRB 2 роки тому +1

    Has anyone noticed the buy order price of low tier unusuals falling dramatically in the last few weeks. Theres now so many of them with b/o at 7k... Could it be the frequent steam sales this time of the year cutting people's interest in unusual trading or something else?

  • @krule8
    @krule8 2 роки тому +6

    sounds nice. your price fixing group got caught, and you plead ignorance.... sure..

  • @mart45378
    @mart45378 2 роки тому +4

    this is interesting af

  • @chocox6491
    @chocox6491 2 роки тому +1

    what the song name at 6:40?

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому +1

      It's Amalgam from Undertale! :) Here's the link for it: ua-cam.com/video/71u0i6J-Qes/v-deo.html

  • @MaruMarouan
    @MaruMarouan 2 роки тому +1

    Hey man i kinda did this with a discord server, but we did it as a "meme" we basically bought as many strange bonk atomic punches in the community market until the price went from 50 cents to 4 eur/dollars.
    i kinda regret not using this oppertunity to make some cash, but i made some fun memories
    i grinded my strange bonk until it has 4k
    btw it was the server of a tf2 "celeb" called Bonk Drinker

    • @youcantgu4rdm3
      @youcantgu4rdm3 Рік тому +1

      so u guys didn't do it as a meme and actually did manipulate the prices, ur part of the problem 😂

  • @sakminis
    @sakminis 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for covering this, sadly, there are many more price gouging incidents that aren't as obnoxious. Backpack.tf staff doesn't seem to care as long as it doesn't cause any scandal. So glad i left that awful trading community 4 years ago.

    • @sakminis
      @sakminis 11 місяців тому

      Oh and not to even mention the bot owner dick-sucking that the staff seems to be doing, they banned a guy who sold his items to a bot that had a bug in its overcutting script and made the price way too high. the site is basically just bots, finding a human trader even for unusuals is rare.

  • @noisemaker1696
    @noisemaker1696 2 роки тому +1

    Praise to the robot overlords bringing us together

  • @norikofu509
    @norikofu509 2 роки тому +4

    Commenting 4 the algorithm

  • @Esteban-vq2qx
    @Esteban-vq2qx Рік тому

    Do you have the link on the issue tracker on this topic?

  • @tf2loafy
    @tf2loafy 2 роки тому +3

    A very pog video

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому +1

      And you are a very pog person 😎

  • @MicrowavedPancakes
    @MicrowavedPancakes 2 роки тому +2

    Bruh this is why I went to tf2 bot trading

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому +1

      I feel you there man haha

  • @trungtran4940
    @trungtran4940 2 роки тому +3

    Good video

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much my friend! I appreciate it ^_^

  • @duplizappergames3585
    @duplizappergames3585 4 місяці тому

    Now we got dozens of overpriced hats lol

  • @SadEyes1412
    @SadEyes1412 2 роки тому +1

    I didn’t know this was a thing. Thank you. :)

  • @MonoxideTF2
    @MonoxideTF2 Рік тому +4

    A hat being “Clean” isn’t about how the hat looks. Its about if its duped or not. You’re not equipped to be making videos about trading if you don’t know that.

  • @yumesol
    @yumesol 2 роки тому

    I agree that these groups are in the wrong, i dont think its wrong to ask someone to up the price if they are consistently undercutting others just to get a faster trade

  • @lolstal3ersmh
    @lolstal3ersmh 2 роки тому +4

    why do so many tf2 videos feel the need to start by talking about how old the game is

    • @Omni_Omen
      @Omni_Omen  2 роки тому +2

      For the exposition 😅 although I didn't know many other videos did that too haha

    • @CountlessPWNZ
      @CountlessPWNZ 2 роки тому +2

      Because it is one of the only games to go through over a decade of updates and still be alive.