My mom was a government employee in the Bali province department of tourism which was the only department who were allowed to enter the bombed area, and it was terrifying. A lot of the corpses were glued to the walls like they were trying to escape, and she mentioned that she couldn't sleep for a whole week. That's why after the bombing, Balinese people said that they will skin the terrorist and use their bodies to make lawar (Balinese dish). They thought that it was someone from outside of Indonesia who was responsible for the Bali bombing. Mangku Pastika, who was the police chief and the head of the investigation prayed in one of the biggest temples in Bali so their team could find the criminals quickly. The very next day, the team found the terrorists, and turns out they were Indonesia citizens. Three brothers and all of them are responsible. They said they only want to harm foreigners, but a lot of the victims were local workers who wanted to make money for their families at home.
well I mean whoever that join the terrorist should be executed. that's the point right? I really don't care if they were fellow Indonesian. I feel like I just wanna execute them myself if this country cannot make any strong law against them.
At the time I was in Bali as a kid (city of Denpasar, many miles away from ground zero) and at the time of the tragedy my parent heard a small boom sound, and the windows at my homestay rumbled. Clueless, they thought it was someone's car tire goes off. The next day as we watch TV, we knew what really happened that night. Turns out the small boom sound was the bombs going off and the rumbling windows were the shockwave sent many seconds after. It was like about 10+ kilometers from the site and we could feel the effect of such a massive explosion.
Nah, they were definitely targeting locals too. Because of Bali's reliance on international tourism, most Islamic fundamentalists in Indonesia saw Bali as a den of sin, and the Balinese as a wicked people that willingly welcomes "decadent foreign infidels" into their land. This is legitimately how most of them see it, so the claim that they weren't targeting locals is most likely a lie.
I am a Muslim and also an Indonesian citizen, Indonesia is not an Islamic country, Indonesia is only a majority Muslim and the constitution says Indonesia guarantees the right to religion, but because of the stupidity of extremist groups who act in the name of "Islam" that causes Islam to be seen as bad.
Facts. These “Islamic Extremist” are paid to do these acts and all are fake “muslims” and make these “reasonable” reasons to portray a bad image on Islam, real muslims would never do this as it is an act of revenge, hatred and stupidity which is the complete opposite of what is taught in the Qur’an. Thank you brother for sharing the truth to the world. We muslims pose no danger to the world.
Indonesia not majority Islam. That just false claim. Since new orde added religion on their national ID because soeharto of politics , changed the false demographic !
I remember back in the day when I was in Indonesia and a lot of my classmate was so disappointed by MCU canceling their schedule of their match in Indonesia because of the risk of terrorism Most people hate extremists but they are so elusive and spread out that eradicating them is difficult
Thats different bombing you dumb zoomer. The one makes MU cancelled their tour in Jakarta is 2009 Jakarta bomb. This is 2002 Bali bomb! And terrorist easily exist in Indonesia since this country is refused to be secular and modern, more easily for corruption in imbecile and religious country
yeah as an ex Musl1m agnostic from Indonesia i used to be br4inw@shed by my uztads (reli9ion teachers) when i was a kid to hate 'k4firs' (disbeliefers/infid3ls) & especially to J3w thus this kind of hate is well preserve till adulthood cuz we've already been taught systematically to hate 'infid3ls & disbeliefers' from an early age....
So you're saying every Muslim is a potential terrorist? but in reality the Muslims were the ones got murdered by massive scale by the Christian nations is not true? Seems like a rational thinking
Hard to make progress if the ones considered to be your 'friends' actually created,trained and financed the very organizations you are desperately trying to eleminate in your country😆
i looked at the memorial of the name of victims of the attack and saw that someone with my moms name was there, my heart sank. im so glad at that time, she was still pregnant with me and couldnt go out partying like she usually did... she saved me and i saved her
They missed out the Sarinah Bombing which shook the capital to it’s core… To anyone who doesn’t understand how insane that is, they attempted to bomb a building right in the centre and heart of Jakarta… 10-15 minutes away from the Presidential Palace and other important government sites…
Yea it should be included but maybe they dont include it because it was considered a botched operation by the terrorist which they failed to spread terror by killing people and the police force moved fast to neutralized the terrorist.
Don't downplay the brazen attempt of the attack. Lives lost isn't statistics or do we want to measure terrorist attack by the severity and not their potential to inflict maximum damage? People here are still comfortable in their ignorance to discriminate minorities. The seeds of extremism has always existed in Indonesia.
@@RidwanGosal Those terrorists were trying to sow fear. But they failed. The last thing you should do is feeding their agenda with your defeatist attitude. Keep calling out any discrimination that is happening, though.
Few of them realize their stupidity on Jail, one of leader who convicted to life in jail even agree to help government to clean hid organisation into it's root. One guy even told the police about their secret weapon stash, which contain one special bomb "the mother of satan."
Yes, im a minority in Indonesia, its getting better nowdays but in slow pace, radicalism and extremist islam still exist, blend in with society, avoid muslim region city if you decided to live in Indonesia
I only wish the best for the future of Indonesia and am sorry for the losses of many lifes to such selfish individuals who can even fathom the thought of carrying out attacks like these, it is such a beautiful country with an amazing culture I will for sure spend a lot of my life throughout the many islands of Indonesia.
It felt surreal to see a relatives lost their loved one's. at one point I thought no more attack will happen after the surabaya church b**ing in 2018. But then I remembered a former terrorist in Indonesia said: "it only takes 2 hours to become an extremist"
Is 2002 and 2003 old enough to be included in a history book? Very recently, in the early 2000s, it was a barbaric world of weak meat that had no common sense except for a few developed countries. Like the Daegu subway arson disaster in Korea. This will soon mark its 20th anniversary, too.
Everything in the past can be learned, thus making it a history, ingnoring it just because it was happened 'recently' means that you will never learn from the past, and doomed to make the same mistakes.
but Indonesia still has soft terrorism such : reject artworks, reject music, reject churches, reject non muslim leadership, reject diversity, even reject fellow muslim who're have different political view
Indonesia needs better internet surveillance system to identify religious extremists, because their religious utopian aspiration will never end until they rule the country
@@cashmerecat9269 tbh its not even that much, considering the massive religious population indonesia has, and they're also somewhat educated which reduces the chance of them turning to extremism
@@mrsamuel5572 it is dangerous to simplify a complex situation to merely a sentence going: "oh well, things will get fixed if they hadn't done it in the first place!" we also wouldn't have to suffer living this harsh life if we hadn't been born in the first place ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@mrsamuel5572 Are you telling us that the solution to this problem is to entirely exterminate a religious group? Are you, by any chance an Austrian painter?
Indonesia's Bali Bombing of 2002 India's Parliament House Attack of 13th December, 2001 and Mumbai Taj Attacks (26/11) respectively America's 9/11 All acts of terrorism are yet to be returned to those who were involved
Even the prophet says don't become extreme with your faith but do it in moderation based on sunnah and Quran. These people are using religion for their politics!
@IIOO That "chains" refers to controlling evil doers from making kufr and making them revert to Islam. During that time pagans(evil doers) are making war with muslim so after they lose they become prisoners and then chained as mentioned in the hadith. So you're trying to make this hadith to match the current standard was plain ignorant, because back then the Arabs were savage(dark age) and love to do wars especially towards new religion like Islam because of the culture clash with new religion. In other words to make it understandable that hadith means that true muslim help the worse kind of people become a muslim and a better human being.
Hope you guys do a similar report on October 23. 5 years after the Battle of Marawi. And please manage your comment section. THERE'S WATTPAD BOTS EVERYWHERE.
It only affected Christians so it doesn't count as a national problem😒. The bali bombing on the other hand, affected the whole country's image and economy from lost of tourism income. The bali bombers is not the first theres many others.
@@berliannahaz423 the effect only christians? So eazy when u said like its nothing while the victim include many kids that for the rest of their life become crippled or losing limbs and losing their parents. Yea its only effects christians and what? are They also not a human life? All because of those radicals. 😒
@@Lunaso0 have patience and pay a better attention before u respond. I NEVER said they're not worthy, im saying that for indonesians in general the Christmas bombings doesn't affected them compared to other bombings. Based on my own experience as Indonesian Christian; i myself was a child when it happened but i realised it more now how much the other bombings were deemed more important. That's sadly typical of muslim world that the standard of expectation for the wellbeing of the minority .... 😒Well lets just say is different than the standard of expectation muslims themselves have towards non islamic world.
@War changed but Humanity never changed accusing people stealing just because they wear the same clothes or have the same skin color, typical radical and racist mindset. Maybe you are the thief, because you have the same mindset as them
Hope everyone who lost their family members were alright I still remember when there's a church bombing near my place The first thing I think of is wether my christian friend is or not
Islam as a religion has many branches of ideology, even the largest and most well-known ones are Shia and Sunni which are distinctly different from their roots. Not to mention another small group with definitely different views. All religions have the same situation for example christianity has many cults that commit many extreme crimes like mass shootings, mass suicides and even bombings too. Why don't people associate them with one religion too? because they know each one is different. But if the perpetrator is Muslim, people don't care about that difference and only consider it as the fault of one religion.
which christian faction do mass shootings and bombings in the name of Jesus? give me stats.......Don't try your balancing act......Terrorism has no religion but most of the terrorists are from a single religion who thrive on suicide bombings and attacks
And how many non-Muslim "terrorist" organizations are organised at the international level? The level of unity among Muslims appall me. Goat clapping old men could literally carry out massacres sitting 100s miles away, all they need is people of their faith. Smh.
How many bombing and terrorism done in the name of religion beside Islam? And how many bombing and terrorism done in the name of Islam in modern world? All religion beside Islam are getting more mature and embrace changes. Why some people want to keep the 6th century lifestyle
@@zulucruz664 Embracing changes doesn't mean that they're getting more mature, it simply means they've lost their values so much to the point where they tolerate everything.
Actual muslim population of indonesia is always around 80% or lower, not 87%. 87% was invented by deceitful indonesia's ministry of religion. Not all who are clsssified "muslims" in indonesia are actually muslims.
Why it is difficult to get back to ur native beliefs and culture...u people following a arab religion beliefs.. which came only 400 years back...does Indonesians who lived there 500 years thousands years back done bad thing if they not following Islam..ur Indonesians civilization is thousands years old...u have ur own thousands years old beliefs culture..but now u following a arab culture beliefs..this called cultural colonization..I see so much lack of self respect here.. Indonesians forgot their original roots beliefs culture...u r colonised by arab religion culture beliefs..get back to ur roots get peace.. ☮️
As Indonesians and also Islamic scholar, i have seen how the way this organization recruit people, by coming to remote vilages to search for gullible person and from low income family.. The method they used is by showing video from iraq, Afghanistan or any islamic country that in the middle of conflict but the video tend to filled with propaganda and extremist teaching.
You're kind of missing one big recruitment pool. High-profile university. UI has been infiltrated, they recruit terrorist in faculty mosque, mainly targeting STEM kids who lack the social common sense to sniff what org is terrorist and what org isn't.
They mostly blame US and Israel on literally everything Like, LITERALLY, EVEN FOR AS SIMPLE AS ECONOMICAL COLLAPSE DUE TO PANDEMIC And they have some sort of braindead issue where they could post threats ONLINE and proudly shows how intolerant they are
i think Indonesia government must prioritising education program to improve Indonesian rate of wise and common sense, at least. i believe a better common sense will decreasing actions and movements of Terorism.
right now, Indonesian education is mostly dominated by religious schools, mostly Islamic schools called pesantren. Hence why education quality is bad, and the students are intolerant. They must secularize schools in Indonesia and eradicate these religious schools which only teach useless and unprogressive subjects.
not that easy especially when the 'holy' scriptures itself vaguely & extensively command its ummah to wage a 'holy' war aka jyh4d against 'kafirs' & murtaddin (apostate) like myself,, there is a ton of vi0lence verses against disbeliefers & infid3ls which can be easily found at QS 2:191, 3:28, 3:85, 5:33, 8:12, 8:60, 8:65, 9:5, 9:123, 47:4, etc...
FYI: at 3:10 Even South China Morning Post not show their Mastermind behind the 3 main leader and almost all bombing even a mutillation in Indonesia. Try to search Dr. Azahari bin Husin P.hd a college teacher from Malaysia.
Both the result of and committed by organizations created and imported into your country by foreign powers,playing geopolitical chess to only suit their political/financial dominance.
@@RIF12.7 Anyone can say they are what religion they want, but if they don't follow the religion fundamentally according to scripture and hadiths they're just fakes.
Apa dah. Ini bahas teroris kok ujung-ujungnya jadi bahas korupsi. Gak nyambung. Kebiasaan warganet selalu mengaitkan korupsi dengan kasus yang berbeda. Korupsi & teroris udah ada penanganannya sendiri-sendiri, jadi gak perlu mengungkit paksa kasus yang memang gak ada hubungannya 😒
Victims got bombed and injured and became disabled but no one help. But got resources spent on convicted terrorists to reform and give them jobs after they released. CRAZY Indonesia country.
Some of them really changed, okay? Not all ex-terrorist ended up being terrorist again But it is true that Indonesian Gov needs to put more attention on these "fireworks fanatics". This is not their last antics in Indonesia, despite the most deadly
If you want to know what is fpi and hti. They are the extremist islamic group in indonesia. These 2 guys abouve us is trying to denial. I can give the proof that anies baswedan friends with that extremists group.
It's simple , USA was funding pakistan billions of dollars to make Mujahideen against Soviet in afganistan. As soon as Soviet disintegrated , they turned against USA (non muslims) . They 9\11. Then america invaded Syria and all
Ex vice president of indonesia is suporting some of this group, although they are all small in number and most of indonesian muslim is abstain or not supporting the terorism, there is big possibility that this peaceful entity drastically brain washed and become "a bride"( suicide bomber) when they got contacted by the terorist warlord, especially west java, sumatrans and sulwesi people
It still is, but nowadays it is so rare for a terror attack to actually happen. Most cases ended up with the suspects getting killed or arrested days before the planned date. So rare that some extreme right-wingers even questioned whether those who are killed were an actual terrorist and accused the government of being islamophobic
@@giicrimson6509 some cells of terror groups, albeit smaller in size compared to its peak in early 2000s, still exist to this day but they're forced to remain hidden due to the government's intense crackdown. Thus, the war on terror still continues, although not as apparent as it was back in the 2000s as most of the culprits managed to be captured or eliminated before they committed the crimes.
The weird part the terrorist happened always when the politician caught for corruption and a few days happened terrorist attack and the public forget about the corruption and the politician release
You should be ashamed of yourself, politicians don't need terror attacks to distract the public. There are millions of other ways they can use. Why do you not blame the disgusting jihadis who are so clearly responsible for this?
What makes it even crazier is that majority Muslims including my father think that what the Bali bombers did was right... and people think of them as if they were martyrs.
@@mabokmicin and i ofc try to learn about Islam more thoroughly. I try to be nice to people, try to help people in need, try to keep a positive vibes even though it's difficult, I try to tell my friends to pray so they don't forget, etc. Oh and to this day, I still remember surah Al Kafirun 👍🏼
Actually the jimaah islamiyah ,the one who bombed the mrt3 in pH way back 2002 was indonesians .that's why if there some indonesian who visit our country especially men ,they are already under surveillance .because of their history of terrorism .
Wow that’s a rude fact to surveillance every Indonesian men. If your country think every Muslims or every Indonesian are terrorist then Indonesia never be this developed, we supposed to look like those middle east countries (based on your government’s logic). How come your government take a suspicious eye on every Indonesian men, even Indonesian development is way beyond your country :)
What makes Indonesia keep in one piece is only " Pancasila " and Democracy without it might be Indonesia would be an agency of an other extrimist country. Majority always become of "Their" ideology objective.
In 2017/2018 (I forgot) near my school in Tangerang City there were terrorists claiming to be from ISIS attacking police officers and at least 3 officers died and after the attack he posted an Arabic calligraphy poster at the police post near my school which is visible like the ISIS flag
I first explained that Bali 2002 was the place before the explosion killed a lot of people where the disco drinks hard there are Muslim religious people want to find out what place is he He's a Muslim, he's not allowed to enter because Muslim clothes Until he harasses Of Bully Say the word Finally this revenge is happening There are dead 202 People from local and overseas originating from Indonesia I know it.
You can, meat should be of baffalo. BTW you can open a Beef restaurant in 12 states of India out of 28. India is a pluralistic and federal country, where the state government decides religious matters not the central.
Man they seek revange for the invansion America to Afganistan but bruh they're Australian, as an Indonesian i'm really sorry about this to 200 people rest in peace, i admit our country is really lack of knowledge most of them trust in myths.
Indonesia wasn't, isn't, and won't be an Islamic country because constitutionally and fundamentally it is a democratic nation which houses a population from various people groups, whether it is ethnicity, religion, social status, gender, and others. We are under UUD 1945 and Pancasila. Freedom of religion and belief is the freedom granted by the country to its people.
Teroris tetap lah teroris, mereka bukan Islam Indonesia, kami islam Indonesia tidak perna diajar kan menyakiti orang. Kami muslim Indonesia tidak mengakui mereka bagian dari kami (teroris)
You dont rationalize with these people anyway They still tried to bomb others, even those with no links to US. Remember Surabaya bombings? It targeted churches that have Indonesians attendees.
Turned into radical. I stopped a recruiter once. YOU NEVER KNOW WHICH GUY IS A TERRORIST. This isn't just a simple matter. They target young guys to be their successors. They can infiltrate school and mosque religious speech.
China is a huge economy and also had a lot of casinos of course many would want to go there. Many of our corrupt politician caught from many different circles. Lets not be racist now. Are we going to blame other people's race and culture from other country for letting our politician get corrupted? Really, is that how we play the game now are we really that desperate? Why cant we blame the corruptor for allowing himself to get bribed and letting himself to steal a profit from government projects in the first place?
My mom was a government employee in the Bali province department of tourism which was the only department who were allowed to enter the bombed area, and it was terrifying. A lot of the corpses were glued to the walls like they were trying to escape, and she mentioned that she couldn't sleep for a whole week. That's why after the bombing, Balinese people said that they will skin the terrorist and use their bodies to make lawar (Balinese dish). They thought that it was someone from outside of Indonesia who was responsible for the Bali bombing. Mangku Pastika, who was the police chief and the head of the investigation prayed in one of the biggest temples in Bali so their team could find the criminals quickly. The very next day, the team found the terrorists, and turns out they were Indonesia citizens. Three brothers and all of them are responsible. They said they only want to harm foreigners, but a lot of the victims were local workers who wanted to make money for their families at home.
Sabar ya kak
Only targeting foreigners but local's casualties is high too.
What a irony
well I mean whoever that join the terrorist should be executed. that's the point right? I really don't care if they were fellow Indonesian. I feel like I just wanna execute them myself if this country cannot make any strong law against them.
At the time I was in Bali as a kid (city of Denpasar, many miles away from ground zero) and at the time of the tragedy my parent heard a small boom sound, and the windows at my homestay rumbled.
Clueless, they thought it was someone's car tire goes off. The next day as we watch TV, we knew what really happened that night. Turns out the small boom sound was the bombs going off and the rumbling windows were the shockwave sent many seconds after. It was like about 10+ kilometers from the site and we could feel the effect of such a massive explosion.
Nah, they were definitely targeting locals too. Because of Bali's reliance on international tourism, most Islamic fundamentalists in Indonesia saw Bali as a den of sin, and the Balinese as a wicked people that willingly welcomes "decadent foreign infidels" into their land.
This is legitimately how most of them see it, so the claim that they weren't targeting locals is most likely a lie.
I am a Muslim and also an Indonesian citizen, Indonesia is not an Islamic country, Indonesia is only a majority Muslim and the constitution says Indonesia guarantees the right to religion, but because of the stupidity of extremist groups who act in the name of "Islam" that causes Islam to be seen as bad.
Facts. These “Islamic Extremist” are paid to do these acts and all are fake “muslims” and make these “reasonable” reasons to portray a bad image on Islam, real muslims would never do this as it is an act of revenge, hatred and stupidity which is the complete opposite of what is taught in the Qur’an. Thank you brother for sharing the truth to the world. We muslims pose no danger to the world.
Same here in Malaysia, extremists exists in any kind of religions, its those ppl who gives religion a bad name.
you're true, kamu benar
Indonesia not majority Islam. That just false claim. Since new orde added religion on their national ID because soeharto of politics , changed the false demographic !
@@incredibles6969 what are you on about?
I remember back in the day when I was in Indonesia and a lot of my classmate was so disappointed by MCU canceling their schedule of their match in Indonesia because of the risk of terrorism
Most people hate extremists but they are so elusive and spread out that eradicating them is difficult
funny thing is
thay decide to move the match to Malaysia
which is where the terorist comes from
Really?
Thats different bombing you dumb zoomer. The one makes MU cancelled their tour in Jakarta is 2009 Jakarta bomb. This is 2002 Bali bomb! And terrorist easily exist in Indonesia since this country is refused to be secular and modern, more easily for corruption in imbecile and religious country
Yep, it was in 2009, everyone on the internet really hated and mocked the terrorists who did the bombing.
Problem is that radicalism is still rooted in the education and taught at school in Indonesia
There should be sth done to these rafical teachers
When you learn at an early age to condemn other religions and beliefs, you become a walking time bomb as an adult.
yeah as an ex Musl1m agnostic from Indonesia i used to be br4inw@shed by my uztads (reli9ion teachers) when i was a kid to hate 'k4firs' (disbeliefers/infid3ls) & especially to J3w thus this kind of hate is well preserve till adulthood cuz we've already been taught systematically to hate 'infid3ls & disbeliefers' from an early age....
Not that simple because such things are thaught on majority of people.
That's propaganda
Religious extremism is a ticking time bomb.
So you're saying every Muslim is a potential terrorist? but in reality the Muslims were the ones got murdered by massive scale by the Christian nations is not true? Seems like a rational thinking
probably the only country thats actually making progress in de-radicalisation. not perfect mind you, but arguably the most successful so far.
Hard to make progress if the ones considered to be your 'friends' actually created,trained and financed the very organizations you are desperately trying to eleminate in your country😆
High residivis in indonesia's terrorism former convicts.
@@berliannahaz423 Source?
@@berliannahaz423 I am your father, stop spouting lies.
@@feikotemme8736 hmm could you elaborate?
I'm Balinese and never ever forget about it. My father lost his job because of this. My mom friend killed dat time when he was at Job.
i looked at the memorial of the name of victims of the attack and saw that someone with my moms name was there, my heart sank. im so glad at that time, she was still pregnant with me and couldnt go out partying like she usually did... she saved me and i saved her
They missed out the Sarinah Bombing which shook the capital to it’s core… To anyone who doesn’t understand how insane that is, they attempted to bomb a building right in the centre and heart of Jakarta… 10-15 minutes away from the Presidential Palace and other important government sites…
Yea it should be included but maybe they dont include it because it was considered a botched operation by the terrorist which they failed to spread terror by killing people and the police force moved fast to neutralized the terrorist.
It's not as bad as you put it. The locals are already doing their activity even when the terrorists only got surrounded.
Ah yes… I remember people enjoying their satay at the terror site.
Don't downplay the brazen attempt of the attack. Lives lost isn't statistics or do we want to measure terrorist attack by the severity and not their potential to inflict maximum damage?
People here are still comfortable in their ignorance to discriminate minorities. The seeds of extremism has always existed in Indonesia.
@@RidwanGosal Those terrorists were trying to sow fear. But they failed. The last thing you should do is feeding their agenda with your defeatist attitude. Keep calling out any discrimination that is happening, though.
my senior in high school died in the suicide bombing in 2005, she was on holiday in Bali after her graduation. it's really sad.
Rip
I pray for the people who died and got injured to this situation, Love from the Philippines🇵🇭❤️
The fact that the terrorists keep smiling and many seen them as martyrdom is crazy.
Few of them realize their stupidity on Jail, one of leader who convicted to life in jail even agree to help government to clean hid organisation into it's root.
One guy even told the police about their secret weapon stash, which contain one special bomb "the mother of satan."
Really heartbreaking and devastating 😭😭
It's a unforgettable terror
It is, 220 people 🥀🥀
What you mean? Its just the peaceful spreading their peace
Yes, im a minority in Indonesia, its getting better nowdays but in slow pace, radicalism and extremist islam still exist, blend in with society, avoid muslim region city if you decided to live in Indonesia
@@astoriaproperty2043 Umar patek will free on 2023, isn't
Religion should be a private matter.
Always have been.
@@spacedust9548 not for the extremists
Agree,but Indonesia cannot drunked by religion 😌
I only wish the best for the future of Indonesia and am sorry for the losses of many lifes to such selfish individuals who can even fathom the thought of carrying out attacks like these, it is such a beautiful country with an amazing culture I will for sure spend a lot of my life throughout the many islands of Indonesia.
Indonesia still strong united as one
It felt surreal to see a relatives lost their loved one's. at one point I thought no more attack will happen after the surabaya church b**ing in 2018.
But then I remembered a former terrorist in Indonesia said: "it only takes 2 hours to become an extremist"
@IIOO ayo dude no need to blame the quran
@IIOO If the order was written in the Koran, the majority of Indonesians would still be Hindus, not Muslims
because it is impossible for the majority to embrace a religion that likes violence
@IIOO more like you're challenging yourself how not to be Islamophobe
@IIOO now that you mention it, I'm genuinely curious, go ahead
Indonesia should aware of this .
There ancient culture is not like that
Hati hati sekarang teroris tidak melakukan aksi bom tetapi menghasut dan menebar kebencian pada pemerintah/instansu keamanan
Is 2002 and 2003 old enough to be included in a history book? Very recently, in the early 2000s, it was a barbaric world of weak meat that had no common sense except for a few developed countries. Like the Daegu subway arson disaster in Korea. This will soon mark its 20th anniversary, too.
Historians has an agreement that to be count as a history, it have to happen 20 years ago.
So yes, it is part of history book now.
Everything in the past can be learned, thus making it a history, ingnoring it just because it was happened 'recently' means that you will never learn from the past, and doomed to make the same mistakes.
but Indonesia still has soft terrorism such : reject artworks, reject music, reject churches, reject non muslim leadership, reject diversity, even reject fellow muslim who're have different political view
Just like anywhere else
So basically Christianity Catholic vs Protestant view but it's muslim
Sama dengan sekumpulan parti politik di Malaysia yang berlagak demikian.
@The Consul nah, its like timebomb. Like destroying statues, revoke churches permit, forcing headscarf, etc
@The Consul you pretend not to see that in public school, how about other points?
Rest in peace those who died in 10/12...
Indonesia needs better internet surveillance system to identify religious extremists, because their religious utopian aspiration will never end until they rule the country
Soo do you want Indonesia become atheist country ? Like that ?
@@voyager2230 better become atheist country than become terrorist country.
@@voyager2230 atheist coutries are better, they are peace and safe countries
@@voyager2230 I think the country wasn't founded based on one religion
@@raihan8097 Indonesia is already secular...not based on any religion
may allah guide these misguided extremists, it is not too late to repent ☮
the question is, how? they're growing fast like mushroom in the rainy season.
@@cashmerecat9269 tbh its not even that much, considering the massive religious population indonesia has, and they're also somewhat educated which reduces the chance of them turning to extremism
Allah? Oh "surely" things get fixed in no time when these don't follow Islam in the first place
@@mrsamuel5572 it is dangerous to simplify a complex situation to merely a sentence going: "oh well, things will get fixed if they hadn't done it in the first place!"
we also wouldn't have to suffer living this harsh life if we hadn't been born in the first place ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@mrsamuel5572 Are you telling us that the solution to this problem is to entirely exterminate a religious group? Are you, by any chance an Austrian painter?
I'm really worried about the Hindu and Buddhist populace of Bali. They are under the risk of being targeted by Islamic groups in the region.
That's Islam for you👏
Yeah, but thanks now most of islamist group were too scared and too weak
@@dominiccaceresmunoz2539 "that's islamic for you" 🤓
@@dominiccaceresmunoz2539 cope
@@dominiccaceresmunoz2539 cope
Indonesia's Bali Bombing of 2002
India's Parliament House Attack of 13th December, 2001 and Mumbai Taj Attacks (26/11) respectively
America's 9/11
All acts of terrorism are yet to be returned to those who were involved
Even the prophet says don't become extreme with your faith but do it in moderation based on sunnah and Quran. These people are using religion for their politics!
@IIOO That "chains" refers to controlling evil doers from making kufr and making them revert to Islam. During that time pagans(evil doers) are making war with muslim so after they lose they become prisoners and then chained as mentioned in the hadith.
So you're trying to make this hadith to match the current standard was plain ignorant, because back then the Arabs were savage(dark age) and love to do wars especially towards new religion like Islam because of the culture clash with new religion.
In other words to make it understandable that hadith means that true muslim help the worse kind of people become a muslim and a better human being.
Hope you guys do a similar report on October 23. 5 years after the Battle of Marawi.
And please manage your comment section. THERE'S WATTPAD BOTS EVERYWHERE.
Those terrorist should be gone from this world.
Im saddened to hear that terrorist groups still exist in indonesia. I pray Indonesia will be free from them.
Yeah
Wherever islam is terrorism will be there.
Believe it or not
Theres also bombing on Christmas eve 2000 on churchs before bali bombing.
It only affected Christians so it doesn't count as a national problem😒. The bali bombing on the other hand, affected the whole country's image and economy from lost of tourism income.
The bali bombers is not the first theres many others.
@@berliannahaz423 only affected christians 💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@berliannahaz423 the effect only christians? So eazy when u said like its nothing while the victim include many kids that for the rest of their life become crippled or losing limbs and losing their parents. Yea its only effects christians and what? are They also not a human life? All because of those radicals. 😒
@@Lunaso0 have patience and pay a better attention before u respond. I NEVER said they're not worthy, im saying that for indonesians in general the Christmas bombings doesn't affected them compared to other bombings.
Based on my own experience as Indonesian Christian; i myself was a child when it happened but i realised it more now how much the other bombings were deemed more important.
That's sadly typical of muslim world that the standard of expectation for the wellbeing of the minority .... 😒Well lets just say is different than the standard of expectation muslims themselves have towards non islamic world.
Then they say terrorism has no religion, while all the organisation mentioned above originated from a certain ☮️ full community.
Those piece fool do not have commonsense.
They do have religion. the terrorist group that currently active in indonesia is KKB or free papua movement. They are christians.
they want to pacify people. very peaceful by then
Keep your fallacy logic based opinion to yourself bruh
@War changed but Humanity never changed accusing people stealing just because they wear the same clothes or have the same skin color, typical radical and racist mindset. Maybe you are the thief, because you have the same mindset as them
Its just kind of ironic. Islamic is know as "religion of peace" but these extrimist doesnt make them look like that.
Yeah, the fcking extrimist is bad at interpretating the Qur'an
remembering surabaya sunday morning churches bombing back in 2018 it was committed by a whole families along with their toddlers.
Hope everyone who lost their family members were alright
I still remember when there's a church bombing near my place
The first thing I think of is wether my christian friend is or not
Islam as a religion has many branches of ideology, even the largest and most well-known ones are Shia and Sunni which are distinctly different from their roots. Not to mention another small group with definitely different views. All religions have the same situation for example christianity has many cults that commit many extreme crimes like mass shootings, mass suicides and even bombings too. Why don't people associate them with one religion too? because they know each one is different. But if the perpetrator is Muslim, people don't care about that difference and only consider it as the fault of one religion.
which christian faction do mass shootings and bombings in the name of Jesus? give me stats.......Don't try your balancing act......Terrorism has no religion but most of the terrorists are from a single religion who thrive on suicide bombings and attacks
And how many non-Muslim "terrorist" organizations are organised at the international level?
The level of unity among Muslims appall me.
Goat clapping old men could literally carry out massacres sitting 100s miles away, all they need is people of their faith. Smh.
How many bombing and terrorism done in the name of religion beside Islam? And how many bombing and terrorism done in the name of Islam in modern world?
All religion beside Islam are getting more mature and embrace changes. Why some people want to keep the 6th century lifestyle
@@zulucruz664 that because people have different Interpretation of Qur'an not because the Islam itself
@@zulucruz664 Embracing changes doesn't mean that they're getting more mature, it simply means they've lost their values so much to the point where they tolerate everything.
I remembered when the authority shared all of perpetrator's photo in every corner so we can identify them. I never forget this tragedy
Actual muslim population of indonesia is always around 80% or lower, not 87%. 87% was invented by deceitful indonesia's ministry of religion. Not all who are clsssified "muslims" in indonesia are actually muslims.
Why it is difficult to get back to ur native beliefs and culture...u people following a arab religion beliefs.. which came only 400 years back...does Indonesians who lived there 500 years thousands years back done bad thing if they not following Islam..ur Indonesians civilization is thousands years old...u have ur own thousands years old beliefs culture..but now u following a arab culture beliefs..this called cultural colonization..I see so much lack of self respect here.. Indonesians forgot their original roots beliefs culture...u r colonised by arab religion culture beliefs..get back to ur roots get peace.. ☮️
Then who is more hindus or Christian in reality
As Indonesians and also Islamic scholar, i have seen how the way this organization recruit people, by coming to remote vilages to search for gullible person and from low income family.. The method they used is by showing video from iraq, Afghanistan or any islamic country that in the middle of conflict but the video tend to filled with propaganda and extremist teaching.
you're an Islamic Scholar?
@mz explain then why not?
You're kind of missing one big recruitment pool.
High-profile university.
UI has been infiltrated, they recruit terrorist in faculty mosque, mainly targeting STEM kids who lack the social common sense to sniff what org is terrorist and what org isn't.
They mostly blame US and Israel on literally everything
Like, LITERALLY, EVEN FOR AS SIMPLE AS ECONOMICAL COLLAPSE DUE TO PANDEMIC
And they have some sort of braindead issue where they could post threats ONLINE and proudly shows how intolerant they are
You claim to be scholar?
Lol
i think Indonesia government must prioritising education program to improve Indonesian rate of wise and common sense, at least. i believe a better common sense will decreasing actions and movements of Terorism.
right now, Indonesian education is mostly dominated by religious schools, mostly Islamic schools called pesantren. Hence why education quality is bad, and the students are intolerant. They must secularize schools in Indonesia and eradicate these religious schools which only teach useless and unprogressive subjects.
not that easy especially when the 'holy' scriptures itself vaguely & extensively command its ummah to wage a 'holy' war aka jyh4d against 'kafirs' & murtaddin (apostate) like myself,, there is a ton of vi0lence verses against disbeliefers & infid3ls which can be easily found at QS 2:191, 3:28, 3:85, 5:33, 8:12, 8:60, 8:65, 9:5, 9:123, 47:4, etc...
Yes.
And Indonesia president is Muslim
@@CalonDosen25 He's not an Extremist
🇫🇮 education is better yes
FYI: at 3:10
Even South China Morning Post not show their Mastermind behind the 3 main leader and almost all bombing even a mutillation in Indonesia.
Try to search Dr. Azahari bin Husin P.hd a college teacher from Malaysia.
Islam need to reform itself, Idk why liberal muslims doesn't come out publicly to ask for reforms.
Exactly they desperately need a new prophet. Right now they are public enemy #1
Islam doesn’t work like that buddy
Sir this is Islam, not Protestantism
@@a1if Whatever way it work it has to reform itself otherwise sooner or later it will be doomed
@@kuku6116
Why would they reform? If everything doesn't work like what the Koran had written, just blame the Jews.
Instead of destabilzing the country, they united us in grief and awareness
@IIOO yea which show whos the fkin terrorist
Even playing football is dangerous in indonesia. There is a term called mendunia in indonesia.
Extremists exist everywhere
@@haziq0007 Nice excuse
We don't scare terrorist anymore, we are warrior
1 october then 12 october? REALLY REALLY HARD FOR MY COUNTRY
Both the result of and committed by organizations created and imported into your country by foreign powers,playing geopolitical chess to only suit their political/financial dominance.
Religion of peace being peaceful time and time again.
Indonesia is still the biggest Muslim country in the end
If muslim are doing it,why the 200mil muslim doesn’t do it
@@RIF12.7 Anyone can say they are what religion they want, but if they don't follow the religion fundamentally according to scripture and hadiths they're just fakes.
All religion promotes peace, but people are abusing its name for politics.
Ok Hindutva
"Welp, welcome to Indonesia."
The bad historis of ISIS in Indonesia🇮🇩 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2009 now Indonesia🇮🇩 move peace and Change 2022🌍🌎🌏🙏🙏🙏
Benar teman itu Benar 👍
A corrupt government is very dangerous to the lives of the Indonesian people, that is the main problem in a country with many foreign robbers
Apa dah. Ini bahas teroris kok ujung-ujungnya jadi bahas korupsi. Gak nyambung. Kebiasaan warganet selalu mengaitkan korupsi dengan kasus yang berbeda. Korupsi & teroris udah ada penanganannya sendiri-sendiri, jadi gak perlu mengungkit paksa kasus yang memang gak ada hubungannya 😒
@@thecsofans6957 korupsi emang nyambung disemua segmen... mulai dari pemberontak, teroris, kejahatan lainya memang ada hubunganya dengan korupsi
@@zakb7418 coba jelaskan bagaimana rentetan kasus terorisme di Indonesia bisa nyambung ke korupsi? Biar saya bisa paham nyambungnya di bagian mana
I spend $20000 in bali a year if this happens again i wil not go back
Victims got bombed and injured and became disabled but no one help. But got resources spent on convicted terrorists to reform and give them jobs after they released. CRAZY Indonesia country.
Some of them really changed, okay?
Not all ex-terrorist ended up being terrorist again
But it is true that Indonesian Gov needs to put more attention on these "fireworks fanatics". This is not their last antics in Indonesia, despite the most deadly
Who said nobody help them? If you expect the nation to hand feed them, keep coping.
😞😢😢😢
Aren't they got death penalty? Who are you talking about?
Meanwhile the suspects sentenced to only 10 years in jail. Hahhaha
1:12 the sign says "they're not criminals, they're just lost. Its not too late to redeem"
they stil give space to the islamic extremists.
anies baswedan is the one example.
the islamic extremists in indonesia politic still exist.
nvm u literally subscribed to Cokro TV, i hope you can be mentally healthy again, my prayers goes to you my friend
@@mcchonky5709 you cant change the fact that anies baswedan friends with fpi, hti and taliban.
So cope harder
If you want to know what is fpi and hti.
They are the extremist islamic group in indonesia.
These 2 guys abouve us is trying to denial. I can give the proof that anies baswedan friends with that extremists group.
It was SHOCKING when I was my Aunt's House in Brighton during the Weekends, a week after my 13th Birthday.
Wow early 2000s had alot of terrorism
It's simple , USA was funding pakistan billions of dollars to make Mujahideen against Soviet in afganistan. As soon as Soviet disintegrated , they turned against USA (non muslims) . They 9\11. Then america invaded Syria and all
I hope all this terrorist acts stop immediately so we don't lost another life
Ex vice president of indonesia is suporting some of this group, although they are all small in number and most of indonesian muslim is abstain or not supporting the terorism, there is big possibility that this peaceful entity drastically brain washed and become "a bride"( suicide bomber) when they got contacted by the terorist warlord, especially west java, sumatrans and sulwesi people
The afk dude?
hamzah haz?
@@arventus bukan
@@vtakpanzer7456 Codename "Just Kidding" have invited Taliban here, wonder how, wonder why
The best way of indonesian dealing with terrorism is Never Afraid. There shooting with terroris better see it while eating snack.
my family and i was there 2 weeks before the bombing.. the place was near our hotel..
its still ongoing?
It still is, but nowadays it is so rare for a terror attack to actually happen. Most cases ended up with the suspects getting killed or arrested days before the planned date. So rare that some extreme right-wingers even questioned whether those who are killed were an actual terrorist and accused the government of being islamophobic
There are still small extremists group but a lot of them turn to hide in the jungles
No
No , there's no such thing again don't take a bait at people say that there's still group like that and i'm Indonesia
@@giicrimson6509 some cells of terror groups, albeit smaller in size compared to its peak in early 2000s, still exist to this day but they're forced to remain hidden due to the government's intense crackdown. Thus, the war on terror still continues, although not as apparent as it was back in the 2000s as most of the culprits managed to be captured or eliminated before they committed the crimes.
I am gonna say what a pitiful sight ,😔
The weird part the terrorist happened always when the politician caught for corruption and a few days happened terrorist attack and the public forget about the corruption and the politician release
You should be ashamed of yourself, politicians don't need terror attacks to distract the public. There are millions of other ways they can use. Why do you not blame the disgusting jihadis who are so clearly responsible for this?
I didn't even know indonesia had war on terrorism
Where r u from dude😂
@@akasheesh5027 America
Damn straight
I thought this only happened in the middle east
More widespread I meant
Whatever it's fine
What's up with comment?
Feels like spam bots
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Bot everywhere
Or they're probably practicing with NovelAI
@@EirinYagokoro ah yes AI Bot Generator
What a shame. They eat the blood and flesh of other humans like animals.
The trigger seeds is still here, name like rizieq shihab, bahar bin smith, munarman, novel bamukmin...... etc.. etc... 🙈
What makes it even crazier is that majority Muslims including my father think that what the Bali bombers did was right... and people think of them as if they were martyrs.
maybe a martyr not a saint.
nope. many muslims strongly believe this violent act is wrong, maybe you father is not even a true muslim.
they definitely don't study their religion thoroughly, including your father, no offense
@@aisyaandhani101"they don't study thoroughly", so you do?... how can we know how far they have learned?
@@mabokmicin and i ofc try to learn about Islam more thoroughly. I try to be nice to people, try to help people in need, try to keep a positive vibes even though it's difficult, I try to tell my friends to pray so they don't forget, etc.
Oh and to this day, I still remember surah Al Kafirun 👍🏼
I BELIEVE IN MY FAIRYTALE - MOMOMEDANS.
Ok well this is news to me. My Birthday is the same day as the biggest terrorist attack in Indonesia and im Indonesian…
Gajelas anjr, padahal terorist attack terakhir aja maret 2021. Entah ini di bring up karena politik atau ngebuat biar benci islam gw jg gak ngerti
Indonesia can learn from China about how to deal with terrorist groups.
Fiery but mostly peaceful
Peacefull people spreading peace.
Say that to Hindu extremists
Indian troll
@@bigmviperplayz253 i hate that it is true about what you said
@@bigmviperplayz253 Say that to any extremist
@@bigmviperplayz253 I don't remember any bombings done by hindus
last time they killed dog at the beach, the reason is they want to make a syariah beach.
Actually the jimaah islamiyah ,the one who bombed the mrt3 in pH way back 2002 was indonesians .that's why if there some indonesian who visit our country especially men ,they are already under surveillance .because of their history of terrorism .
Wow that’s a rude fact to surveillance every Indonesian men. If your country think every Muslims or every Indonesian are terrorist then Indonesia never be this developed, we supposed to look like those middle east countries (based on your government’s logic). How come your government take a suspicious eye on every Indonesian men, even Indonesian development is way beyond your country :)
Which country is that, kinda rude knowing 140 million people there in indonesia, disgusting
Wow that's kinda rude
Yessss spread this info more often dude.. indonesian will hate filipinos if this is the way your government act and never going there again
Phillipines moment
Sekarang keamanan di area publik Indonesia ketat banget sampai banyak turis luar yg kaget
What makes Indonesia keep in one piece is only " Pancasila " and Democracy without it might be Indonesia would be an agency of an other extrimist country. Majority always become of "Their" ideology objective.
The majority in indonesia never win in democracy.
Nah we're Pancasilan extremists, soon we'll gonna reconquer rest of Nusantara and Malay peninsula
people believing that following the path of religion can wash away your sin, but how a religion is the tool also to commit many sin.
Religion of peace folks!
I'm so sorry if I dislike this country because we were being extreme like heck.....
The most successful jihadist group in Indonesia are the ones at Aceh
Peaceful religion ☯️☯️☯️❤️❤️❤️
In 2017/2018 (I forgot) near my school in Tangerang City there were terrorists claiming to be from ISIS attacking police officers and at least 3 officers died and after the attack he posted an Arabic calligraphy poster at the police post near my school which is visible like the ISIS flag
Desert death cult
They still exist.......
I first explained that Bali 2002 was the place before the explosion killed a lot of people where the disco drinks hard there are Muslim religious people want to find out what place is he He's a Muslim, he's not allowed to enter because Muslim clothes Until he harasses Of Bully Say the word Finally this revenge is happening There are dead 202 People from local and overseas originating from Indonesia I know it.
Source: trust me bro
Australians really want this to be their 9/11 huh?
Saya akan membuka restoran daging sapi di india
HAHA jangan bro, nanti bangkrut
Random bet bjir,😅
You can, meat should be of baffalo.
BTW you can open a Beef restaurant in 12 states of India out of 28.
India is a pluralistic and federal country, where the state government decides religious matters not the central.
interesting for scmp covering this news now in 2022, very interesting.
seems some mechanism is running now.
It's 20th yeat anniversary, literally in the thumbnails. Use your eyes.
I'm Balinese, but 2002 I wasn't born yet 😂
Condolences, on the death of the victim at that time, they have calmed down now 💓
Love Bali people from middle east u guy are so tall
what are you laughing at bro?
@@Andr14nt0 kid 😂
Bocil iddiot
@@Andr14nt0 probably used wrong emoji
Man they seek revange for the invansion America to Afganistan but bruh they're Australian, as an Indonesian i'm really sorry about this to 200 people rest in peace, i admit our country is really lack of knowledge most of them trust in myths.
Why no mention of opm terrorism doesn't only need to be religiously motivated, it can be race or other political motives.
Indonesia wasn't, isn't, and won't be an Islamic country because constitutionally and fundamentally it is a democratic nation which houses a population from various people groups, whether it is ethnicity, religion, social status, gender, and others. We are under UUD 1945 and Pancasila. Freedom of religion and belief is the freedom granted by the country to its people.
"we all know its the muslims"-👴🏻
Teroris tetap lah teroris, mereka bukan Islam Indonesia, kami islam Indonesia tidak perna diajar kan menyakiti orang. Kami muslim Indonesia tidak mengakui mereka bagian dari kami (teroris)
😂 Why are Indians crying in the comment section
Bcoz Islam terrorist
Mainly the Annoying Hindu Extrimist and BJP Hardliner
A pagan Lindus Will never like Islam...
@@ayahpinkofficial2769 nobody sane will like a child molester (Moh a mad)
they are Hindutva i mean, IQ of what? a flip flop i think
This isn’t a terrorist attack .
The best sarcasm comment ever i seen
Indonesia a beutiful nation of islands is just cursed as islam reached there
are you mad because Hinduism is no longer ruling in Indonesia? if so you can stay mad my dear pajeet
No, there just some idiot who read war situation verse and use it on peacefull time
Im hate that kind of people
'Religion of peace' everybody!
@@dominiccaceresmunoz2539 Religion of a warriors, thats why your religion is way more corrupted than mine
Bro islam spread here because of trade
Its already gone rough state..no hope
Scene 00:55... Defend muslim indonesian from what? Indonesia is the biggest muslim country number two after arab.
A Irasional coment.
From being turned into radicals
You dont rationalize with these people anyway
They still tried to bomb others, even those with no links to US. Remember Surabaya bombings? It targeted churches that have Indonesians attendees.
From turned into radical teaching, it is easy to see this.
Turned into radical. I stopped a recruiter once. YOU NEVER KNOW WHICH GUY IS A TERRORIST. This isn't just a simple matter. They target young guys to be their successors. They can infiltrate school and mosque religious speech.
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News 2002, upload 2022 ???
nowadays JI = FPI but they also banned last year, and since then heavily targetting densus 88 tying to disband it
Nowadays, anyone who criticizes the government are at risk of being labelled as terrorist. It happened to me.
try to talk about the corrupt Indonesian government, many of whom were caught red-handed, from your circle or people
China is a huge economy and also had a lot of casinos of course many would want to go there. Many of our corrupt politician caught from many different circles. Lets not be racist now.
Are we going to blame other people's race and culture from other country for letting our politician get corrupted? Really, is that how we play the game now are we really that desperate? Why cant we blame the corruptor for allowing himself to get bribed and letting himself to steal a profit from government projects in the first place?