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I paid 135K for my house on 1/2 an acre in 2000. No way will I pay that much for a car. I’d buy land first.
Can you tell me how to buy land?
Been saying the same thing….not paying more to drive a vehicle than for my house.
Hell yeah
Wish it was that cheap in LA.
People were also buying Ferraris for $200k back in 2000 . People who pay $129k have large financial portfolios and probably own thousand of acres in real estate
I ain't paying no $52k for an EV or ICE vehicle with my $71k base salary per year. That would be financial suicide. I prefer to finish paying off my mortgage, which I still have $101k left. Some new vehicles are more than $100k. That's INSANE. I'll just keep driving my used reliable vehicles that I paid off already and keep investing in things that make me money like my retirement accounts, my house and savings. Thanks for the video 👍
Prices are crazy. For cheap plastic
After taxes you make about 53k so yeah that wouldn’t be a good decision.
@@XX-166 And after inflation, it's even less 😂😅👍
@@joseCalderon1976 especially now so hold onto your duckies tightly.
@@joseCalderon1976- the only problem when you’re debt free is that you NEVER want to get locked into a payment ever again!
Yesterday I was at a gas station in Vancouver Canada and 2 people got into a fight over a charging station and the police had to be called. There is several public chargers here but they are never enough because more and more people are buying these vehicles. The sad part is in Canada we are supposed to go 20% electric in 2026, 60% electric in 2030 and 100% electric in 2035. I can only imagine what a nightmare it will be then.
Hopefully that plan gets dashed!
Yeah same in Europe. But it will never happen. We already suffer blackouts in winter because we don't produce enough energy because of the "all electric" crazyness. It is not only a question of charging infrastructure, it is also a question of energy production infrastructure. Building a new power plant can take decades ! (plural) and we haven't even started yet. The 2035 goal is delusional.
@@TheRealTomLauda Britian uses less electricity now than they did 20 years ago. But OK.
@@OtisFlint yeah, I said European.
No, the sad part is not charging at home. Also sad to not realize how close we are to being thrown into the same pool as Europe and paying 8.00 per gallon for gas.
I knew someone who had a Tesla that got into an accident and their insurance company had them in a rental car for over a year waiting on Tesla to fix their car. Over a year! Insurance companies are tired of this and raising rates BIG time on EV's.
Most insurance companies will only cover 30 days of rental
Tesla in my area which is my doesn’t do body work and instead recommends body shops that work on lots of teslas. My car was hit and it took around 2 weeks. This was around a year and a half ago.
mine was 5 weeks thats it. hated every minute in my gas rental
I have never heard of an insurance company giving out a loaner car for more than 4 weeks.
I wanna believe it but 1 years is just beyond belief
usaa did lol.....it was nissan versa, horrible. @@uche007us
As an Insurance Broker, I can tell that electric vehicles like tesla is double the insurance than the regular gasoline cars
So much for saving all that money lol😂
NOT TRUE my insurance went up 2% Some companies are taking advantage as usual
I'm an autowholesaler and it's fact EV repairs are 3x the cost compared to a gas vehicle. If I was in the auto insurance market I wouldn't insure them at all
tesla insurance is much cheaper
That is absolutely not true I paid less for my electric car than I did for my gasoline car and my car was a Ford fusion before.
A lot of traditional repair shops won't adopt repairing EVs because of the insurance costs. Most require any technician that services EVs to be factory trained because of the high voltage systems and the danger they can pose to repair techs, so private repair shops simply don't service EVs.
And where do you get parts? The part replacement infrastructure does not exist like say my 2012 Caravan where parts and mechanics are prevalent
@@Nnonyabiz - what is your normal shop rate?
@@Bellcephus1 - ohh yeah👍 my g/f’s ‘08 Rav 4 V6 only has 283k miles. Please came back and report on how well your EV holds up in 15 years in the Rust Belt where winter is 6 months long 😂
@@Bellcephus1 - what about using child labor and massive diesel powered machines to mine for lithium 🤷♂️
Some shops do work on them. The danger part really isn't so bad. You either do it right or die. Lol. But seriously, it is high voltage with enough amp's to take you out quickly. What I mean by not so bad is you only need to avoid the two big wires from the battery except to disconnect them and three big wires between the ESC and motors if the ones from the battery are still connected. I'm sure there's a few capacitors that pack a punch but shouldn't kill you if they only hold 12 or 24 volts and you are not grounded to the car. I think an electronics engineer, repairman, or even a hobbyist could stay safe. I'm confident that allot of other stuff on them would be better to have factory training before messing with. So, all of that to say I agree with you !
It's so intresting to watch these videos from a Swedish perspective. We use loans to an less extent for cars and its way less common with the trade ins etc. Personally My whole family bougth older cars cash. And thats what I also would do. Most likely a Volvo V70 from 1990 or something like that. Or a toyota corrolla. It's so weird from my perspective to put so much money on a car. Specially when you cant even aford them cash. Thank you for great content.
Many Americans are not fiscally responsible. Different culture for sure.
My family has a lot of auto mechanics and we buy old used cars all cash. I have only owned one new car and am in my 50s. lol
The old "box" Volvos 242,244 and 245 would run virtually forever. Its not uncommon to still see them with 350,000 miles and more. ( I guess thats around 500,000 kilometers)
The only drawback was that they were underpowered. The newer ones werent (arent) nearly as good.
Well, you spend all of yours on the gas to run it.
If you buy old vehicles you make it back by the low purches price of the car. Can prob find a beater car for 1000-3000$. Would have to drive alot of miles to land at same cost spent as buying a electric car. @@Bellcephus1
The Tesla-boys keep repeating a lie that EVs are maintenance free. (let alone require less or less expensive maintenance than an everyday car)
EV's have doors, A/C systems, windows, brakes, suspensions, seats, entertainment systems, airbags, safety systems, tires, computers, plus motors, batteries, charging & cooling systems.
Plus there is no established technician training program, documentation library, industry of maintenance shops, or pool of people who can work on them.
There's a difference between maintenance and repairs. Most people don't drive like children and end up needing to repair their vehicles due to self inflicted damage, which Tesla software also helps avoid.
To be stuck behind some Tesla boy. Trying to see how far he can get on a charge, not joining that club. I'll use my gas and your gas In my hellcat. With a big childish grin on my face.
@@michaelbuteau4183 my Tesla Model X SUV will grin right back at you after beating your hellcat in a drag strip while full of groceries 😂
I do love that. 1.25m people in my town. One tesla repair shop. Millennial "mechanics"? No thanks. Oh, ICE dealers and new suck too. Not sure what the solution is.
@@NnonyabizStock hellcats aren't fast.
My dad paid over $2k for a cd player in the late 80s, that’s the cost of early adoption.
Yep it's just how it goes when new technologies hit the marketplace. Early adopters pay a lot more than later adopters. My uncle had the 1st VCR in our town, I'm sure is cost him a lot of money at the time.
$5000 tv 😂 new $500 tv today outperforms
What's a cd player? That's what we will be saying about the current EV cars in another decade. Meanwhile the ICE cars produced in the same year will function just fine. People love Tesla's because they are a computer that drives, but they don't realize how quickly computers become absolutely worthless hunks of metal.
Electric cars were invented alongside ICE. One was the clear winner on the free market, and became widely adopted. Now you see massive incentives to move to EV... but what do you have to incentivize? That's right, things you don't want.
@@CelestialTrieye electricity was nowhere near ready battery tech has improved exponentially in the last 10 years . Your first cell phone was a brick the size of someone’s head .. you have a high capacity battery in your palm .. also software to control voltage and tech has improved insanely ..
Not only is there a automotive technician shortage. There’s a shortage for charging station repair technicians 🤣🤣
My son in !aw's organization has a large equipment shop . Every mechanic is at least 55. There are no young mechanics and non in the skills pipeline!
@@tommorgan1291 I guess thought charging stations were maintenance free like an EV 🤣🤣🤣 WRONG!!
@tommorgan1291 My wife and I are accountants. it's the same story in our line of work, we are in our late 40s and we can't find people.
Bottom line is EVs are not for peasants complaining on here. If you got money, it's miles above gassers. The new Escalade EV is amazing, the Rivian is excellent, and so is the Hummer. If you're driving a Honda, stfu and move on
@@tommorgan1291the young guys go in, see it for what it is, then leave.
Also read an article that said up to 40% of all charging stations across the country are out of service because there are not enough qualified service techs to repair them.
definitely not for tesla lol. lots of fud in these comments
Could if be that the non-Tesla charging stations are often out of order because of poor design / build quality / installation?
Strange that Tesla manages so well with their superchargers 😉
The Tesla supercharger network has an up-time of >99.95%, fewer than 1 in 2000 chargers are out of action at any one time.
Our local Ford dealer which is about a midsize dealership has 44 Mach E's 36 Lightnings.45 F150s ,30 Broncos,seems like a bunch.Also the small sized VW store has 41 ID4s,the big VW store 2hrs away has 90 id4s
I don't usually comment on other person's purchase decisions, but IMO you have to be a special kind of doofus to pay $40 over MSRP on an already expensive $90K Lightning
Bought a new long range Model Y last month for under $49k and sold my wife’s 2013 Ford Escape with 125k miles for $4,500. That coupled with the $7,500 tax credit, being able to charge it at home for basically free with our solar + batteries, an EV was an obvious choice. Not a fan boy, but I absolutely love that thing.
Note - I live in Tampa where there are superchargers and Tesla services everywhere. And I still have a V8 Silverado.
Cause you can't afford gas hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha
There are so many holes in your comment. You will lose more in EV depreciation that gain in any negligible fuel savings. What about your insurance rates? Tire expenses? And the risk to everyone else for your EV battery fire/explosion. As soon as you have a fender bender with your EV, good luck having it repaired.
Guess as long as you get ur paycheck, financial calculations be damned! Why did you even sell the escape, all the depreciation nearly gone, it would have been your "escape" from EV hell.
@@orthopraxis235 Lol, this comment is so dumb. So your saying because the car depreciates (as do all cars) has insurance (about the same as the Escape) and the tires wear (shocking how that works) and that I may get into a fender bender (hello insurance) that this is a poor financial decision?
Does it help that it's also a business expense, paid for it without financing, and as I mentioned above still have a gas power truck?
Nah, "There are so many holes..." Sheesh.
I had a mechanic show me a Tesla that came to his shop after breaking down. To get to the shop, a tow truck hitched to the car’s frame, but the battery is built into the frame and got a massive tear in it. Immediately increased any repair cost by 40k. When you can’t even safely tow the car, the design flaws become too glaring to ignore
the battery is easily get damaged by running over something on freeway. a broken hose under the car may cause you/driver/owner have to replace a whole battery. 15k-19k for battery is normal.
Tow truck driver failed to follow the proper procedure to tow the car. Cant blame the car on ignorance.
Don’t know what the manual says but I’d imagine it would be flatbed (tilt & load) only.
@@grilablitznet3574 Pretty much everything around me is flat bed only today. Gone are the days of the wheel lift once awd came in. Sure, the dolls can be dropped, but most wrecker companies just run flat beds here.
That was PURE recovery operator error. It wouldn't be the first vehicle jacklegs who think they bought a brain with their truck ruined. Teslas do NOT have conventional frames. The AAA towing guide professionals know to use cover how to tow everything and of course Tesla publish instructions (I just checked). That car should have gone on a rollback which is what most modern tow operators run. Plenty of vehicles can go on the stinger or wheel lift but not that one.
Another expense that is not discussed is tires, I was at a tire shop last week and one of them employees was telling me how often they see Rivian and Teslas there because of how heavy they are they eat through tires really fast
people need to buy the right tires. you need the right load rating.
@@TeslaRoadtrips Glorified golf cart rated.
XL actually lol @@donreinke5863
A tesla Model 3 RWD weighs the same as a similarly sized Audi A4 45TFSI with a tank of gas - A model Y RWD weighs less than an Audi Q5, of all EV's Teslas are far and away the lightest compared to their size and often similar to or lighter than similar sized petrol or diesel cars.
Only had my RWD model 3 for 10k miles but so far have hardly worn at all, they look at this stage that they will last longer than the tyres on Audi I had previously (and cost less).
@@TeslaRoadtripsproblem is this starts right off the bat with the stock tires that came with the EV's. The weight causes camber issues that destroy the tires in one area. It's pretty common knawledge now.
I'm a car dealer of 25 years. I would never take an EV in trade. Wait until they are 10 years old for full explanation!
💯% Facts, Who's going to be holding the bag at the end, NOT ME,
YUP, the Battery packs will be all used up like a 5 year old phone and be utterly useless, replacing the battery packs is like totalling the car. Costs more to replace then the value of the car.
@@AlpineHiker For example, when I was back in the UK last summer a friend knew a neighbour who had a 2014 or 15 BMW i3. The battery had depleted to the point it had to remain constantly plugged into the house or it had no range. I believe they are worth around 8-9k on the market. Having found a battery was 12.9k they decided to try and trade in with BMW on a new car. They were offered 900 coin of the realm!
@@topmarques What a bunch of insane nonsense, a BMW i3 battery from 2015 does not cost nearly that much because the capacity is tiny about 22kWh. There are entire Electric Motorcycles with battery capacity slight less than that cost 18K GBP. Stop with the BS lies.
@@AlpineHiker What a bunch on insane nonsense. A actively cooled and heated EV battery is nothing like Phone battery. BEVs have insane mileage lifespan when early Tesla Model S are failing around 290,000 miles while more recently built EVs should be good for 350,000 miles. The problem is still lifespan in years as that is still a problem. Rav4 EV from Y2K era on averarage survived 17 years until it nolonger could output peak power but still had over 65% capacity. This was Nickel Metal Hydride battery with no thermal management. A modern actively cooled and heated Lithium Ion battery is not much better and conservatively will do the same 17 years. A 10 year old based on real world data should have about 12% range degredation and pleanty of life left. The full explanation is you are fear mongerer pushing false assumptions.
Would love an Electric but we are not ready so...
Hell noo I stick to my 2008 Civic Si!! Paid, liability insurance, gas station right there! 230,000 miles and still running like a clock!
We are selling our 2009 civic SI near Chicago with 145000 soon and have LOVED the dependability of that great Honda. Great ICE vehicle!! I can tell you as a insurance agent for the “Good Neighbor” in Galesburg, Il that all insurance is higher on ALL vehicles.
They have been in development before ICE (1800s). They are still not ready for primetime due to the same basic shortcomings they suffered leading to the adoption of ICE in the first place.
i had a 2011 civic si. sold it and got a model 3 performance. si feels very antiquated. it was engaging to drive though.
Hey Lucky, love your channel. I purchased a Chevrolet Bolt 5 years ago. I love it and have many dealers around me to work on it. Im also fortunate enough to own my home, where I put a charger in. Now for the bad and to your point, public charging is a joke. All these different companies, all use different accounts, the charges are limited at best. If I was a renter and had to only charge at public charges it would be awful. These are not ready for mass adoption yet. Im also lucky enough to have multiple vehicles. So when I go on a long road trip I take one of my other vehicles. So I would say if your going to buy a ev, make sure you have a second vehicle and you buy a Chevy or a Ford. Lastly a home charger is a must, or don't get a ev.
id just say buy a tesla.
This, I would not say no to EVs but I need a solid backup ICE car to go with it.
Sounds that EV’s by 2035 gonna get pushed back lol
They're already fighting that in court. There's no way it can happen.
Yeah, EVs by 2035... that's not gonna happen. LOL
I love my EV but that ain't gonna happen.
Doubt it
@@wemakecookie They are. There's a bill that's going to pass halting the 2035 conversion order. It basically has all of the common sense infrastructure stuff in it as well as just plain common sense.
First of all, people aren't changing their minds. They never wanted EVs in the first place. Nobody cares if Tesla owners are upside down with their car loans. In 2022 I tried to buy a 6 year old Dodge Challenger. The car was worth 15k and I offered the guy 20k and he turned me down. He wanted 33 which was 5,000 more than it cost new. A 6 YEAR OLD DODGE! Do I have to tell ya? He got the 33k for a 6 year old Dodge, God love him. Now the markets crashed and I saw a 2017 Charger for 17,500 at a dealer the other day. This tells me with a clean cash deal, you could get it for 15 exactly where we started from. That means that guy who bought that Challenger for 33k is now 16,000 dollars underwater on his car loan. IN ONE YEAR! Should I worry about him? And what about the bank who lent him the money. They're supposed to know better. Should I worry about them? And finally, should I worry about the clown stupid enough to think a Tesla Plaid was some kind of investment vehicle? One thing I am enjoying is watching all the Tesla fan boys take it in the teeth. It's all finally catching up to them. Everything motorheads like me said all along is coming true; fast. Gotta love that. LOL
You’re right. This crash in prices is happening to both Ice and EVs.
Where do you watch them?
you saved me from typing this up.. i could give 2 craps for the FOMO morons that overpaid for their depreciating asset that are worth 1/2 of what they paid for.. boohoo.. do stupid thing win stupid prizes..
No price crash is coming. The used supply will continue to dry up because manufacturers aren't building reasonably price new vehicles. Outrageously priced new vehicles will mean more Outrageously priced used vehicles.
But at @dannydaily’s point, so many people will either get their cars repossessed or walk away because either people can’t afford these insane payments anymore or realize they basically got ripped off at the dealership. If enough cars hit the market at once that in turn will force the prices back down. I for one miss the days of the brand new $23,000 accord and Camry and hope we see pre pandemic pricing again.
I walked away from my Ford Lightning deal because the dealer wanted $20k over MSRP, i was only willing to pay $10k over. That day the dealer showed me the door.
buy a tesla they don't sell like dealerships it's direct sale
The dealer did you a favor.
Forget about the Lightning buying a regular 3.5 ecoboost v6 gas powered F-150 is the smarter choice.Save your money!! Don't believe the government scientists, believe in you intuition insted. Climate change is a Hoax! Buy gas powered or diesel engine powered vehicles.
@@johntalbert8227 100% send him or her a thank you card
I owned a 2016 VW EGolf from 2016 to 2018. Range anxiety and Depreciation luckily the car back then only cost $26K -$10K tax incentives = $16K. Went back to ICE cars and now currently have Toyota PHEV Hybrids (Both with Tax credits). Very happy with the Toyota Hybrids and my ICE Toyota Tacoma. I left the EV World back in 2018 (LOL 5 years ago)
Even when new, an e-Golf was a commuter/city car with only 125 miles of range. There's little comparison to current vehicle ranges.
No remorse. Bought a Tesla Model Y LR a year ago, and have never had a problem with the car or charging. I charge at home, and have never had to charge at a Supercharger. Not that I couldn’t, but why pay more $$ since it’s cheaper at home. I regularly drive 100 miles or more, but the range of the Model Y is easily 250 miles. That’s not quite enough for L.A. to Las Vegas, but pretty close. One stop along the way, 20 minutes of charging would do it. And, I would not do that on a Holiday weekend to avoid any crowds at the Superchargers. Fuel savings is the biggest reason for driving an EV. That L.A. to Las Vegas trip would cost me less then $20 at home charging rates. Supercharing costs more of course, but still cheaper than gas.
I called bullshit because you didn't mention how you have to immediately charge when you get to Las VEgas for your in vegas driving, or immediately plug in when you get back home to drive in LA. I mean, yes your charge while en route takes 30 minutes, just to get you to your destination. Well, you need to charge it again when you get there. Once again an EV owner embellishing the typical driving aspects of an ICE as a super positive and completely not stating the obvious negatives of owning and driving an EV on long trips. Leave out 1/2 the story, and make it look good! What a joke.
Stop winning
I’ve driven LA to Vegas countless times in my tesla. There aren’t lines for the chargers. However inside Las Vegas there is a definite lack of superchargers and you will wait.
I drive from Vegas to the Grand Canyon and back in a Tesla standard range. I was a bit worried about charging but I didn’t have to wait for a spot a single time. Charged 5 times in 3 different supper chargers on a weekend. I’m sure some stations have a wait but I had no issue at all. Seattle area has been OK but there are definitely some big gaps where charging stations are needed. Still a work in progress.
tesla just built a few new SCs in vegas, should help out
So when you get there, owning an EV sucks and takes away your valuable time. Again, an EV owner embellishing the slight positives (which are just average daily stuff for an ICE driver) and hiding the massive negatives.
@@orthopraxis235 no I charge at home for $4 for a full charge and never worry about shupercharging or gas stations. Only for road trips
Buying an EV has never crossed my mind, no way, never!
Maybe in 50 years
@@rustybumperclassics6342 In 5 years, they;ll be a no-brainer because they'll be the same price or less than an ICE and much lower to run
@@jamesvandamme7786 hope so.
I seriously doubt it.@@jamesvandamme7786
LOL Because you have no ability to buy EV. Burner Spammer Account running Scripts are not real people with purchase power.
Speaking from experience got rear end d in my 21 Etron in January. Took 3 months to fix and it was hell. The other driver had Allstate and they nickle and dimmed the whole way, took over 60 phone calls to pressure them into paying my audi body shop. Remember with an EV you have to go to a certified shop. Bottom line it was hell! Was told travelers insurance is best if your driving a high end car or ev allstate is not who you want.
Yeah, Flo ain't gonna write you a check either, without you fight her down to her Chucks. Progressive can s*ck it.
I am happy that I kept my ford gasoline sedan. I bought it in in 2017 and keep up repairs. I even looked at electric motorcycles when I was young. You hit it right on the nail head about charging problems and no charging stations on the road for long trips. I was very uncomfortable with the incomplete answers I got about EV's and I still am. Your video is very well done.
But what you're not mentioning is your friend was now trying to sell a used Plaid. Even though Tesla dropped the price 5 grand, he lost 60. And he didn't lose the 60 because Tesla dropped the price, he lost the 60 because a fool and his money are soon departed. Everyone knows the super low resale values of Teslas. Tesla's average a 55-65% drop in value the first 2 years. All EV's are seeing similar deprecation. And why they don't sell at all is then you have to consider a battery replacement for up to 40 grand. And the batteries are programed to go bad. When Tesla says 100k, they mean 100k and not ONE mile more. If the battery actually goes bad, it'll explode or start on fire. So they don't go bad at 100k, they just shut off. He didn't have to get rid of the car and take the loss, unless he did. Do I really have to explain this? NO EV has any resale value when the price of a replacement battery now comes into play. And it's showing. I know a guy with a 2 year old Mach E and he can't give it away. Even for half price. What does the Plaid battery cost? 20,000 dollars or more? 40 installed? In a car worth 60? And installed by who? We don't have a Tesla dealer anywhere near us, and we're hardly in the sticks. And my understanding is Tesla wants 10 thousand dollars up front to even check it. Even hybrid battery replacements are in the multiple thousands of dollars. Best to stay away from that crap. How do we even dispose of these cars? You're NOT throwing them into a land fill or stacking them up in a junk yard. Any one of them could combust at any time. They're going to have to disassemble every junk car. That's ludicrous. Pray they don't rust.
tesla has 8yr 120k mile warranty for battery and power train. in that time I'm going to save potentially 40k in gas costs. who cares.
Or get driven in New York winters. It'll be interesting to see what will happen to the EV when the deicing salts work their magic on the EV systems after a few years. Brine is both highly corrosive and an excellent conductor. Wonder how many 8 to 10 year old EV batteries will turn into firebombs just due to environmental conditions causing them to short out. Nobody knows yet.
i dk. norway has plenty of cold weather and harsh winters and they're nearly all ev and have been for several years@@drecksaukerl
Exactly why I mentioned rust. Just imagine the mess these cars are going to cause. Every time Florida has a hurricane, the fired dept. holds their breath from the flooding salt water. And they get fires, and these cars burn down their houses if in an attached garage. All the fire code in the world won't stop them. @@drecksaukerl
That's certainly what they want you to believe now isn't it Frank. It doesn't matter, if you use Tesla Chargers your electricity will be equivalent to over 17.00 dollars a gallon; so knock yourself out. There is no regulation on the price of charging station electric rates. Tesla can make it whatever they want and they are. So can any of the companies offering the service and they are as well. Have fun in line. Maybe you can get a Covid booster while you're there. @@TeslaRoadtrips
I bought a Tesla Model Y Performance after the price drop earlier this year. Road trip in it a few times a year without issues. No way I would do this in an EV of a different brand unless they have access to the Tesla Supercharger network.
Honda is gaining access soon. Plus model ys look like shit.
Wait until all brand EVs are competing for Tesla chargers.
Except those strange rattling sounds and panel gaps
I had a model y for a year, experienced every single issue Lucky mentioned, especially with the service and the loss of value from the crazy price cuts, and just barely traded it for an ICE car. I feel like the video was created based off my experience with an EV😂. I’m glad I wasn’t the only one with this type of experience.
Do u live in a house or in an apt? I know the experience is very different for people who can home charge and those who cant
@@uche007us I live in a house and I had a Tesla wall connector installed to charge the vehicle. It worked fine for daily use but going on any long trips was extremely inconvenient and the car always had things going wrong, and it was very difficult arranging service appointments because of having to communicate solely through the app and because of living far from the nearest service center
Not me. February will be 3 years with my model y. No problem with service or charging. Took minor body repair to local body shop instead of Tesla approved shop. I live on the treasure coast Florida.
@@grouchynorwegian8690 I do not think you have Tesla model Y.
Why not? Because I’ve had no problems? Sorry that your Tesla is such a lemon but my Model Y long range is running fine for the time being🤞🏻
Sticking with my 6 month old 4Runner. 22mpg. Luv it.
I make good side money offering emergency charging services to all these EVs. I have a large truck with a big old diesel generator on the back. I can charge multiple cars at once. You’d be surprised what people will pay to charge their cars when there is a lineup at the charging stations!
I admire your entrepreneurial spirit! Kind of shoots the "EVs are so much cleaner than ICE cars" argument behind the ear, but who cares. EVs aren't helping the environment anyway.
Good for you 👏👏👏
Where are you located?
You're a smart guy, because that's a clever idea good for you.
You must have huge liability insurance. What if you overcharge, overvolt and one of those EV batteries burns? Im sure your insurance is aware of what you are doing. Your rates for insurance, precisely because you are charging EVS, will go up substantially if they have not already. Great idea, but you are charging a very risky product.
Even if you do everything right and your equipment works fine, if an EV burns when you are charging it it may not be your fault, but it will likely be at least partly, your liability.
Is this factored in to your business plan? Was there a business plan?
1000% true. You hit the nail on the head. I was just on copart last week, so many EVs on there with light impacts/damage that would normally be easily repaired. Totaled. Titles for parts only etc.
It’s a shame the general market is hamstringed and paying for the added cost the EVs are bringing to the consumer. My insurance is sky high and I’ve never had any claims or been pulled over. Charging around my area (town of 120k people) is a joke. Chargers always down and not working. They do terrible in harsh MN winters as they try to keep their batteries warm at -50 to -60 wind chill. No thanks.
No E.V.'s for Bimidji.
Stop bullshitting Rockefeller ! F@#k big oil ! If you bought a EV and count on public charging, you aren't too bright. And if your insurance is too high, i'm sure there's an explanation that's real instead of the EV garbage.
I can appreciate that a disruptive change like EVs is a threat to established industries and those who earn a living feom those industries.
But as a Tesla Model 3 owner I can assure you that I drive for free now and have zero maintenance. While I was paying $400/mo in gas when I was in a ICE car. I am more than happy.
same here, i save 4500-5000 in gas a year. these people in the comments obviously have lots of misconceptions. only thing that will change their minds is PRICE
I was so against EVs from the start cause I knew that nothing made sense about them. I'm not even sorry for those schmacks that bought them, overpaid and now complain .....
I am seeing a lot of buyers remorse out there
@@LuckyLopez777really? I live in a NYC suburb and we’ve gone full EVs and love them. EVs are everywhere and all my neighbors love their EVs. Is more challenging for the occasional long road trips. We have done many over last several years, and chargeING could definitely be better especially now there are more EV’s on the road. But otherwise for 95% of the time, charging at homehome makes life so much easier!
How long will the battery last?
@@Wasabi9111Exactly. You don't need to keep going to the gas station.
@@Wasabi9111 They are a no-go for trips, which is part of the whole reason for owning a car. EV's are useless in that regard. Also, why would you pay $20K more for a car? Makes no sense.
Lucky, do a story on how often EV's start on fire and what happens when they do.
I did one last year about how the batteries, spontaneous combust, and when they start burning, you can’t put them out with water. You have to use special chemicals, and in some cases you just have to let them burn away.
@@LuckyLopez777And if that vehicle is inside your garage in your house, bye bye house. Just that is concerning.
Hey lucky post the truth about gasoline cars catching on fire way more often than electric cars. That would be news, not the f up that GM is and how they rushed their EV’s just to try and compete with Tesla, hence why their shit caught on fire.
Lol they're much less likely to catch fire, but when they do it can be more violent.
@@wemakecookie less likely is what’s important, something violent that never goes off isn’t rly violent. His statements should have said “Chevy bolts instantly combust because GM is a shit company” not electric vehicles as a whole. You don’t punish other ICE companies for the Ford Pinto for example, that was a f up that instantly combusted.
100% agree with everything you stated about EV’s, 100% Correct!!
I said when the ev frenzy started that they are going to be like phones in terms of value.. looks like I was right! The technology is developing rapidly, and it will probably be ten years before they depreciate at a normal rate. If that ever happens..
Value depends on the consumer. EV's have no resale value. It's an overpriced market.
Any car bought in rhe last few years was overpriced.
I live in Los Angeles and travel to Vegas 2 or 3 times per week for work and I never seen a line to charge my car at a Tesla charging station specially in areas like Barstow or Yermo I would like for you to record next time you drive down to LA so we can all see but am sure you won’t do it because it’s not true. I bought my used Tesla model S last year with free super charging and now it has 180k mile and I haven’t had any problems so far it runs perfect and no not everyone hate charging their cars with Tesla you just pull up open the port and start charging that simple.
he was spouting lots of fud
We have two electric vehicles in our family. We love them both, and they work great for us. Public charging can be a challenge but we always charge from home.
No one’s jealous of your overpriced fucking vehicles.
No one’s jealous of your overpriced fucking vehicles.
No one’s jealous of your overpriced fucking vehicles.
No one’s jealous of your overpriced fucking vehicles.
No one’s jealous of your overpriced fucking vehicles.
Very well done and informative video. Love it when I learn something new. You did a great job of pulling a lot of relevant and timely info together to explain the current challenges with the EV industry and owning a EV. Nicely done. Looking forward to your next video.
I must not live in an average state, I don’t see any of what he’s talking about. Very few people are driving older cars, our jewelry businesses has been booming since Covid, and Tesla’s are lined up at WaWa’s charging stations.
THAT CRAP DON'T WORK ! You all must learn. The only power in suggestion, is the power to discredit yourself. This is 2023. The truth will come out quicker than you can benefit from lying.
EV's are a niche market in a dead end technology. There is ZERO possibility for the EV to become mainstream, the infrastructure is non exisant(and I don't mean chargers...I'm talking total available electricity in a given area), not to mention the fact that lithium is extremely finite compared to petroleum based fuels. Hydrogen is where it's at, but the goverment would have a hard time regulating sea water as a fuel, so they push EV's. People can't even run their AC units due to brown-outs and Kalifornia keeps pusging for more EV's. SOOOO STUPID.
Hydrogen????? LOL. I have some Nikola shares to sell you!!!!!!!
I agree that hydrogen would be a better fueled option, but EV’s do fit a purpose for a lot of drivers, it’s just not ready to the point they can get people out of their ICE’s in mass.
My neighbor here in California says his electric bill now is costing him more than if he had his gas car paying these gas prices. He's totally upside down and the excitement of it has worn off.
@@TheFrenchPug Yawn……solar roof. I know people with solar roofs h who sell their energy back to the grid and don’t pay anything for their energy.
@@johnanderson9735 Hydrogen is many times more flammable and explosive than gasoline.
Are you even sure this scenario will come to pass? Since they are pricing cars out of the reach of normal people, within less than 5 years, all cars will be luxury items. Doubly so for EVs. The rest of us will be walking or taking mass transit after our vehicles die in 10-20 years.
LOL this comment is so myopic
Maybe they disappear, maybe they don't. Look at Cuba. One of my ICE cars is 46 years old, 80k original miles. Luck is a possibility.
Tire companies will have to bite the bullet and start offering lower price vehicles. I bet you they're already working on it because they realize their greed has gotten them into trouble.
" _out of the reach of normal people_ "
Let's not talk about normal people for a minute and focus on the millionaires. According to Bing, there are 24.5 million millionaires in the US. Add to that thousands more who keep their income hidden from IRS. And their numbers are growing 6% every year. That is a LOT of people who can easily afford $100K+ cars.
I'm confident that the car market (both for new cars and used) will be fine for quite a while. A lot of car titles will change hands.
an in stock rwd model 3 tesla can be had for 27.5k after rebate. cheaper in many places. people just talk about legacy evs which are irrelevant and tesla outsells 10 to 1 and point out how its a failure. its like blackberry and nokia phones not selling and saying nobody wants smartphones.
Forget about them, don't deal with them.
EVs are basically a really cool lookin golf cart...that might burst into flames.
Very true I’ve seen so many electrical car fires that are so scary. The worst thing is some of them you can’t even put out with water you have to use chemicals or just let them burn out.
That's funny
@@LuckyLopez777you can’t use water to put out electricity SMH
@@XX-166that’s his point
@@wlonsdale1 we weren’t aware that he hired you as his public relations girlfriend but you do wear his skirt well…..
Some time ago a coworker was about to drink the EV Kool Aid until a fellow engineer and I talked some sense to him about EVs. He bought a gas powered car instead and his bank account thanked us.
Never mind the inconvenience involved in charging. The difference of 20K in price between an ICE and an EV should be a deal killer for anyone with an ounce of sense. Other than California, you can buy about 5500 gallons of gas for the difference. If you buy a car that gets 30 MPG like my VW Arteon, you can drive 165000 miles before hitting the breakeven point, assuming that charging is free. Of course it isn't, so an EV will never recover the added cost during its lifetime. That's before figuring the added cost of insurance and the cost of replacing the battery.
No VW/Audi/BMW 💯🗑
I paid $31k for our bolt EUV brand new last year. Heated and ventilated seats and heated steering wheel apply car play . Pretty much all you need in a car The gas savings have been fantastic especially when it is $6 a gallon here in LA. There are very few gas vehicles new that are $20k cheaper. We pay $150 a month to fuel the Bolt. Equivalent gas expenditure would be at least 3x. Plus my wife loves not having to go to the gas station as she hates the gasoline smell. I like it because she doesn't have to take my 2 kids with her to the gas station and take a risk however small. I wish people would stop using $50k as the avg EV price. It's not that expensive. Lucky should know better since he's an actual auto dealer. Nobody is paying $50k for a Nissan leaf or Chevy bolt. Anyone that uses those figures are intentionally misleading or flat out ignorant. I just did a quick search and a 2023 Nissan leaf sv plus with only 1200 miles is $25k. 226 mile range. No other gas car in that price range will save you that much money on fuel. 1 owner no accidents. There are cheaper ones for $15k only a couple years old. Do some research before hating on EVs. They are great vehicles for around town runabouts. I prefer a plugin hybrid so I get the benefits of EV and the gas engine when I want to go on longer trips. Can't for the Ranger PHEV to launch in the US.
@@marklihsu If you like it and it meets your transportation needs, good for you. For most people (myself included), the disadvantages of an EV outweigh the advantages and that's reflected in what's happening in the market. The average driver does not pay 6 bucks/gallon for fuel, needs decent range, and finds that the Bolt is too small. Still, it seems the EV works for you. Just understand you're in the minority.
@@melissasmess2773 I like the veedub. Fun to drive and very practical. Only one minor warranty repair in 3 years. My point about fuel usage also holds true for a Camry, Accord, Sonata, Altima, etc. if you can't stomach the thought of a VW.
20k price difference? That applies to any car you purchase. 100K truck to a 30K Kia can also save you money on gas…
Always find your insights super interesting, looking forward to the next video.
Just saw video somewhere in California a line of people in their EV’s at a Target waiting to charge their car… at 11:15 PM!!! Who the hell wants to wait in line to charge a car and then wait another 30 minutes for it to charge 😂
Wonderful info Lucky! I’m buying soon and had briefly considered an EV. No more! It’s not just the distance issue or the charging issue or the insurance issue or the repair issue or the parts issue or the…you get my point. It’s ALL of them!! One guy I read said wait at least 5 years until the infrastructure and support systems catch up to the EV world. EVs are the future. We just got a little ahead of ourselves. Thanks for your excellent commentary!❤️
If EVs were so great they would sell themselves and obviously that is NOT happening. Perfect example of putting the cart before he horse. It could take decades for the infrastructure of the USA to catch up if it ever actually does. Can you imagine electric prices if a huge amount of people are driving EVs?
Good job Brother!! I learned so much! Thank you!
Great Vid!
Explains the Tesla Stock Collapse
Electric cars definitely have more associated repair costs. My friends car got side swipped while their car was parked in a parking lot. On the outside, it just looks like a small dent. However, now the locks and windows don't work on the drivers side at all. Crazy.
that can happen to any modern car that has electronic door modules, very common component.
@@Bellcephus1statistics say they are not as reliable as ice?
@@Bellcephus1 The greed is of magnitudes almost unfathomable!
Cars could be much better in many ways yet growing individual wealth takes priority over fellow man.
As for the stats,
All over the internet.
I would guess as a result of new development/inexperience (for some manufacturers Tesla)
No doubt when they sort the battery issues, life span, thermal runaway ect & sort the charging stations
Network out.
I can only imagine the power infrastructure may be halfway upgraded that will be helpful.
Wow for Australia let's say ten years that should be more than enough time for the battery car market to sort out the niggling details. like caravanning, boating & camping for a few weeks👍
Nothing quite like hitting the back rds putting a few thousand kilometres between you and civilisation not a care in the world. You the family even the dog.
Just the bare essentials food beer and some extra diesel for sightseeing & the all important safety journey
Home.
🖐Arrr the good old days.
@@0Aus Those stats include a bunch of first try cars from makers with no expierience and that still isn't the stats anyway.
@@Bellcephus1 a bunch! Arr you must be a kid. Wake up!
I love to scoop in when market falls. EV is still bad investment
I got rid of my lyriq 1800 miles in. It was a pos. 5x it was in the shop, 3 of which required a rollback,.. in 1800 miles!
As a prior 5 year Tesla Model 3 owner with over 100k miles. I agree with almost all of these points. I got rear ended and Tesla was totaled. Fortunately I got over 10k what the car was worth due to good gap coverage. I went back to an ICE vehicle (hybrid) and am very satisfied.
Tesla Ownership Positives
- Remote update system. Despite a few poor thought out ones, these updates have kept the car feeling fresh and new despite it's aging tech.
- Dog mode and the app in general. Mostly reliable and quick.
- Built in security system with Sentry. As well as built in dashcam. This actually came into play when the car was totaled.
- When bought, was difficult to get that level of acceleration at that price.
- It was an incredibly enjoyable car to take around town. I had the Performance and the acceleration never really got old. I can see myself with another in the future but ONLY as an additional vehicle.
- The mobile technicians were great, and the few times I used it, it was efficiently and quickly completed. Although parts and labor are pricey with this. Had to replace the left headlight twice. It broke again but luckily was totaled Before I replaced it.
Negatives
- Very poor customer service. Just in general, for any metric when measured against traditional automakers.
- No loaner program and the few times they had my car I got uber credits. Great for someone solo I'm sure, but horrible for a single dad with a son and multiple dogs and cats.
- Long wait times for much needed service. Even for mobile technicians.
- RANGE ANXIETY!!! It was fine in the beginning, but after taking several road trips and seeing the hours added, not too mention all the planning required, I got sick of it. Even around town this can be an issue.
- This EV ate tires. 20k avg is the norm for a set, even with proper balance and rotation. It's the weight and torque I know. However, it isn't something that people tend to think about when purchasing these vehicles.
- Autopilot got worse and worse with each update to the point I did not trust using it anymore and it became a massive liability. On a trip to Austin I experience 6 separate phantom braking events. These became more common and I ended up never using it after that. The FSD I paid for was laughably bad. Like a drunk teenager behind the wheel. It'll get you there, but you may cause a few accidents along the way.
- Road noise under 50. A-OK. Road noise above that tends to be really bothersome, especially at highway speeds. It's improved I'm sure, but my 2018 felt like it pumped IN outside noise. Even dropping to 18" did little to alleviate this.
- Also, when driving at or above regular highway speeds, the range dips dramatically. This often isn't mentioned up front. There are a lot of things most buyers may not know prior to purchasing an EV.
I'm sure there are others I'm not mentioning but you get the gist. Happy now with my vehicle and no more range anxiety.
I have a Tesla model Y since March 2023 with 8,600 miles, and I am thinking about going back to gas vehicle (possibly a Toyota Rav 4 hybrid) next year when I get the $7500 credit back from taxes. It's fun to drive and I like the one pedal driving but range is low. On a recent charge fill up I only got 210 miles real world on a 5-90% charge which was a mix of city and highway driving with 80 miles of a bicycle on a rear hitch rack. The range is not very good and the charge times take too long. The vampire drain is quite annoying too with Tesla saying an average of 1% a day is normal. That would be a 30% battery drain per month. My old 2014 Volkswagen Jetta GLI didn't lose any range by just sitting and could still easily get over 300 miles on a tank of fuel with a bicycle on a rear tray rack. Also gas filling didn't take any longer than a few minutes to fill to full. It's also quite annoying with EV's that your not supposed to fill to 100% with every charge which is ridiculous and you lose an average of 1% of range per year and the battery capacity. My dad has my old 1994 Acura Integra with 300,00 miles and it still runs fine. We need solid state batteries with cheaper replacement costs and fast charge times equal to gas cars to make electric cars more desirable.
A month ago I flew to Canada and rented a Tesla Model Y. The people I was visiting lived several miles from a big city. I found several charging stations but most of them were
"proprietary" in other words you had to be a member in order to use their chargers. The chargers had phone numbers on them but a few went unanswered. The best were at city halls or
fire stations. Another problem was that my Tesla adaptor wouldn't fit the charger connectors. The rental car company hadn't told me that there were adaptors in the Tesla trunk. I spend well over an hour trying to find out how to open the trunk. Finally i saw I could open it via the screen. These were all level 2 chargers and it would take over 7 hours to fully charge the battery.
Sounds like you should have done better research before renting one. Tesla superchargers are the best in the business. That long to figure out how to open the trunk? Give me a break.
Just rented a car in Palm Springs last week, the cheapest cars available to rent were all EVs. Rental demand for them must be low.
@@deej628 I was looking inside the car for buttons or levers inside the car. When I picked up the car i never was told that everytging was on the screen, By ther way when i returned the car the attendant told me that a lot of people who had rented the Tesla returned them for a gas fueled car in a matter of days. I can see once someone knows the drill renting an EV and driving short distances are fine.
I have had EVs for 3 years first a Leaf now a bolt. But I have 5 cars, they are only good for local driving 200 miles max Charging on the road is a big PAIN and expensive , that's a fact . Thanks Lucky Im a long time subscriber , Keep up the Good Work
EV is great for city driving only. Even a Tesla is a terrible road trip car due to wasted time even at superchargers and parks that are far from any EV chargers and there are often not enough or broken.
Ya only Teslas are viable for road trips because of their supercharger network. Will add some extra time on longer road trips, which some like because it's an excuse to stretch legs and use restroom
Lots of people take road trips less than 200 miles each way. For longer ones, an IC car can be rented.
@@flashoflight8160total BS.
@@OtisFlint Yeah most EV buyers are staying away now that the truth is out. Enjoy watching your Tesla depreciate like mad and get three pennies for the trade in.
I watch a you tuber here in the uk who drives a taycan, he paid over £120.000 for it two years ago. He is still into for over £70,000 and the last bid he got last week was just over £43,000. Him and another you tuber drove from the to off the uk to the bottom, the person in a non Ev beat the taycan by over 4 hours. His cost was half the cost of the taycan. He drove an old 320 diesel BMW for which he paid £2650.00 two days before.
We had a minor accident and the rear trunk of our Tesla 3 was damaged. This was about one year ago. It took nine months for the repair job to be completed and, while covered by insurance, it was a $20000 repair. Even after they repaired it, the trunk came out of alignment with the rest of the car and we need to go back for them to fix it.
Not only the examples you gave why EVs aren't the halo car we expected, if you live in New England, we have some of the highest electricity prices in the country and low gas prices. I've done the math and my Subaru cost less per mile than a single motor Tesla model 3. I did drive and look at EVs and the Audi e tron GT was worlds better than any Tesla. Problem is, we plan a trip up to Nova Scotia and the dealer sort of scrunched his face and pointed to the ICE 7 series because we may not even be able to make it unless we did like I see pictures of Teslas in Ukraine with a gas generator on a trailer hitch rack on the back of the car.
Yeah, so much for being Green, when the public chargers are gas or diesel powered. What a scam from the government down, especially in U.S😂
My Tesla gets 100 miles per $1.25 because I charge overnight at half price. Road trips are still 30% cheaper than gas.
When it comes to EVs Rich Rebuilds was my go to and he was Tesla's biggest Enemy. He talked about how he fixed his own Tesla when the Company gave him crap about when he couldn't get it fixed.
My biggest Peve about EVs was always Changing infrastructure. Not enough to go around. So until Charging Stations are as common as a gas station is when I would consider getting one. Also this EV parts war for needs to stop
Electricity is ubiquitous and more available than gas stations. I have electic service in my garage (as does everyine else in the neighborhood,I'd guess), but there are no gas stations in any of our garages. And the vast majority of us don't even have EVs yet.
if you have a tesla the superchargers are usually very good. most of what he says is more relevant for legacy evs than tesla
Nice job lucky...a great perspective people need to consider
Only stress free use for an EV is home charged short range. Mild weather would be huge too.
I'm hoping that Prometheus Fuels and Porsche get their fuels up and going
The stress of an ev catching fire shouldn't be ignored either.
@@ecduzitgood Ha, you aren't wrong
The wife and I went Tesla back in 2021 and both of us are in agreement. We would not buy another ICE vehicle unless we had too. (Except for a 3500 tow rig) our vehicles from here on out will most certainly be electric.
It’s too easy just unplug in the morning and go. No maintenance, no bs. Get in and drive.
Charging has never been an issue for us, we have the home charger in the garage. When traveling, superchargers are everywhere, always seem to work, and typically are close to restaurants, convenience stores and restrooms.
This said, I’d be a little intimidated traveling in a non-Tesla.
I am looking forward to the Tesla Model 2 when it is finally available. It will be a game changer. EVs aren't selling because legacy auto makers EVs are overpriced and the economy is garbage. ICE cars aren't flying out the door either. Tesla has slowed a bit, but they will be just fine.
@@thomaswojcik5858 no doubt. Lucky is right about Tesla f@cking their secondary though. I won’t be buying another Tesla because of that but the experience has opened our eyes to the advantages of owning and operating an EV.
EV sales in the third quarter of 2023 achieved record-setting levels in the US, surpassing the 300,000 quarterly sales level for the first time with a total of 313,086 all-electric vehicles sold according to Cox Auto, a 48.9% surge year-over-year. all this nonsense about evs not selling is mostly legacy@@thomaswojcik5858
Still rocking my 2016 MS P90DL with free supercharging. We take it everywhere and never had a charging issue.
Just returned from Las Vegas and Tesla added more superchargers
@@seanw6608 no doubt. The model S can quickly spoil oneself. It’s too easy to just not worry and go.
100% with you on the Closed system for fixing and servicing the EV cars...
Lucky Lopez : I ordered a Cadillac Lyriq all-wheel-drive back in May 2022.
It was supposed to be a 2023 model and I expected that I would have it before December 2022.
GM canceled my 2023 order and forced me into the 2024 model year.
Even though the 2024 had a few more options that the 2023 did not have, there was also a $7000 price increase that I’ve noticed based on the equipment that I normally would’ve gotten in my 2023.
The main features that people want when they buy a Lyriq are super cruise, heated/cooled/massage seats, and the premium speaker system with speakers in the headrest. That’s what we were initially introduced to, and initially paid money towards.
GM introduced cheap trims such as the tech and level 1 trim, which do not have supercruise, heated/cold/massage seats, or the premium speaker system. The models also don’t have ambient lighting.
Right now Cadillac has lots of low level trims sitting on the lot.
Here we are in November 2023 and I’m still waiting for my car. I was told that I would have my car “around three weeks from now”, but that was five weeks ago.
If I could get a Mercedes S500 for a little less than $90,000, I would probably give up my order with Cadillac and get the Mercedes instead. The BMW i7 is also a possible choice but I’m not as comfortable in it as I am with the Mercedes S class. I also can’t find either car in silver.
Anyone else would have simply walked away from their allocation.
Could you film the 100's of cars lined up at the charging stations? I would like yo see it.
just google it
I currently do not charge my car at a charge station. I only charge at home. I also do not travel farther than 50% of the range so I can drive back without stopping somewhere. I love my EV. I also have 3 other ICE cars that are for long distance. I try doing Long distance once with my Tesla in 2015 and never again. I also dont drive a Tesla EV anymore.
I am currently driving an Audi Efron Q8. I really do like it. More comfortable than my Panamera that cost 3x the amount. The trick to EV is charge at home and only do local driving with it. Charge stations take too long for my taste. The need to punch in my info is also annoying AF.
Hey Lucky, I am trying lonebridge, I have in the list around 10 vehicles which I know for sure are currently at tow yard, it does not show any info on them.I have them in the list for 3 days already. Not sure if I am doing something wrong.
Thissnis tthe first video i e watched of yours. Very well done. Subscribed
Everything you said i told friends and family when these first came out and they didnt believe me. When you introduce new technology you cannot just build it and let it go into the world.
These things need a whole logistics network and a bunch of freshly trained technicians for fixing cars and charging stations. Tesla and and other car companies want to make technology without footing the bill for investing heavily in infrastructure to support it.
Guys I worked in a coal fired power plant for 12 years. Quite large too. 4 units each kicking out 800 megawatts gross, 750 net (each unit took 50mw to run). In 2006 or so each unit got bumped up on net and gross by 50 due to installation of new pollution controls. Now I'm only an electrician, but now work at a major assembly plant in Detroit. Now I'm not an engineer by a longshot, but with all that being said, I do not understand how this will work on the scale they are asking. We are decommissioning our baseload plants at a fast pace. The company I worked for had 11 plants in the system. 10 coal, 1 nuclear. They're down to 4 including the nuke. In their place, wind and solar farms, which sorry, but they are not nearly as reliable as baseload plants. They're gonna tell you it's the grid, but there's a lack of reliable megawatts. The plant I worked at has it's first 2 units scheduled for decommission in 2025, the other 2 by 2035 if not sooner. The first 2 units weren't supposed to come offline until 2040. I really hope I'm reaching on my theory, but seeing what I've seen firsthand, I just don't see this happening. At least not in the time they're shooting for. Oh, in my home state of Michigan, I just read they're restarting a reactor that had been decommissioned a few years ago. Godspeed out there folks.
You are not an engineer but you have opinions on things you don't understand.
Go take a class on power and power distribution before spilling non-sense here.
And yet people with opinions like yours are silent when new housing subdivisions, office buildings or factories open up. Those use a lot more power than some EVs which are not fully charging every night!
@@NnonyabizSo there's also not enough power for new houses, office buildings and power-hungry factories? That's complete BS.
@@trucksanddirt1506 well then educate me buddy. I'm all ears.
@@hahamasala very true my guy, however I'm not speaking of present day, I'm talking in the near future IF everyone eventually has to get one. You already have higher ups in utiltiy companies warning of blackouts and brownouts, if they're not already happening. Oh but it's the grid, right??? Couldn't possibly have fuck all to do with lack of reliable megawatts??? Nope, just that silly little grid.
another big issue with EV that is coming soon is the liability of fire in close environment. The Norwegian shipping company Havila Kystruten will no longer allow electric cars on board its ships, according to Norwegian news. This is a ferry shipping company. This with in time may happen in close parking lots because on the lithium battery risk of fire. Something to think about it before getting in to buying a EV
12:49 My neighbor is on his third BMW i3 lease. It's their second car (other car is a gasser), with an in-home charger it's great. A few times a year I drive them to the airport. One pedal driving is effortless. Just the convenience of not going to the gas station is awesome. For a one-car household a plug-in hybrid would be ideal. Let's say 100 mile battery and the rest ICE. That way the vehicle isnt too heavy, the battery covers most of the daily driving, and you are never stranded in the event of no chargers available, or a power outage (you can have a few cans of gas ready prior to the event).
Always very informative and filled with great facts to help the "little people". Your work is greatly appreciated.
I appreciate that!
I’m keeping my gas guzzler 4Runner. I love the thing and modded it heavily.
I might do a sedan or a mom mobile like a Highlander, later on, to put around and keep the truck as an off road rig only.
Same here - replaced my 2010 4Runner with a 2021 4Runner Limited and only paid $45K.
I intentionally purchased a low mile 2020 Tundra crew 4x4 18 months ago defientely for the horsepower and torque since I will not take a hybrid pickup to pull my 4 trailers.
Love my 2023 4Runner also….its a keeper !
In Canada the Petro-Canada gas stations now have a couple chargers at each station across the country.
THANK YOU Mr. Lopez. It is an excellent video. We had made huge mistake with Tesla, we overly had paid for the vehicle. Tesla Y had no spare tire, when tow truck showed up, the only thing that they could do is towing our vehicle away while we were on traveling. It was a night mare. We stayed away from electric vehicle. We are looking into Honda or Toyota Hybrid. Toyota has spare tire and space for spare tire.
I think it is pretty smart to set-up charging stations at gas stops. Off base, in Albuquerque, there is an abandoned gas station. I wonder if it will make sense to convert the gas station into an electric charging gas station.... I will have to run the numbers with someone else but it seems smart
in norway this is all you see
I am guessing the real estate price where most gas stations are located is very expensive. No way, a company gets that return charging cars.
This is why most charging stations are hidden in cities. Also wait till the subsidies go away and they start paying road tax aka gas tax.
circle k has done studies and ev owners charging spend more money than gas customers. since they spend more time there. its prob a good biz decision@@uche007us
@frankbovine I wonder how they make it work? Does charging vehicles cover all of the expenses needed to operate or is it subsidized heavily? I have heard more gas stations break even on gas
most gas stations dont make any money on gas. its the convenience store that makes the money @@spacejunky4380
The fact that they are trying to mandate it ensures I will never buy an EV.
Just like the vaccines, total scam. "Nothing new under the Sun."
I’ll be damned if I will be forced to buy an EV, as I’m only interested in German ICE performance cars
Except the only place even hinting at that is CA…
Have you driven one?
It's all about control and taking away freedom just like the scamdemic
Another point that I don't see many pointing out, is that almost every other week there is a new announcement about a new tech, or a manufacturing development that will lower the price of the battery, increase the range, increase the charging speed etc. If I'm buying a new EV why would I buy one today if in a few months there will be a new version of the car that it's supposed to be much better. It's kind of the same reason for not buying a ice car today, there is the expectation for prices to go lower, so unless I really need one today I will push the buy for a later time.
There aren’t enough chargers to make EVs practical right now. They’re also very expensive and our current battery technology hasn’t caught up with what we need them to be able to do. We need faster charging and longer lasting batteries.
Carvana released earnings report yesterday and the company beat most analyst’s’ estimates by turning profitable for the quarter. What’s your take, Lucky? BTW, found your channel a few weeks ago and it’s my new addiction!
Carvana is straight up cooking the books! They said that they make $6k a vehicle
@904eb wait is that a good or bad thing when you say "cooking the books"?
@@fishyinnadurag610not a good thing. Straight up lying. They call it creative account ting. Carmax makes a bit over $2000 and they pay more for used cars. How is Carvana earning that much per unit? Lies! Deception! Lol
Didn't you hear? They hired SBF as CFO! Their recon now consists of a drive thru car wash at the lowest price and then the associate uses the vacuum at the end. They saved thousands on recon!
Great vid as usual Lucky! I really think the gov and manufacturers should have focused on hybrid solutions before jumping straight to EV. Ive enjoyed driving hybrid vehicles in the past and the mileage is killer. Drove from Phoenix to the Grand Canyon to Vegas in a Ford Fusion Hybrid and only had to fill up once during that entire trip
It’s not a righteous movement
If you are driving a hybrid, you might as well just continue with ICE vehicles. No point in hybrids.
I just saw a video out of Burbank last night. 6 charging stations full up with over 50 waiting at 11:30 pm. And they just spent all day in traffic. How many of those people do you think will ever buy another EV? Or even have it next week? Case closed on EVs. Even in California.
Saw you first on Wealthion and subscribed, bro! In the market for a used Jeep, but waiting for the crash.
Thanks for this, Lucky. I am ok with hybrids but EV's seem unappealing to me and I didn't even think about the price of repairs.
How long does it take to "charge" your ICE car? A couple of minutes to fill up. I never bought into the EV craze. The only good thing about them: instant torque.
No matter how much torque they have, it will never make up for how boring it is to drive, no engine sound, no soul, just a battery...
@drivingforpleasure187 right! the people who buy them don't even like speed, so it completely defeats the purpose!
That’s my big hangup too. I can fill up my tank and 10 minutes or I can wait in line for an hour to charge my car and then once I actually am able to plug it in it could be 20 minutes to another hour before I can leave.
@@drivingforpleasure187but how many consumers care about engine sound esp now everything is mostly 4 cyl? It’s so unrefine to hear the 4 cyl groan in stop and go traffic.
@@Wasabi9111 Both of my VW's are diesels. There's nothing like the drive and sounds of diesel engine. Would never buy an EV.
Country has been pushing generations into the IT field and completely went blind from the trade market. Now look where it’s getting us 🤦🏽♂️
My dad is one of those who reduced the size of the processor and actually IMPROVED technology in the 1980 and 1990s. Now all tech is quickly relegated to some kinds of scam or your money, or privacy , or freedom. Silicon valley now is such a slothful place, where I grew up it was incredible. Now it is just shit, with all the tech workers equally shit, cant stand any one of them.
The current EV supply/demand imbalance seems to be the result of classic gov’t intervention into a private marketplace . Consumer adoption of EVs is certainly here, but not at the pace & price of the new supply
Price still too high. I'm ready to buy one today for $19K out the door, brand new LOL
China has a new ev for $3500.
We could convert a Yugo into a racing EV and destroy people on the track 🤣@@LuckyLopez777
What about this idea.... find a Mach-E 2021 at end of year for 25K (They are selling for as low as 27k now). At that price point it qualifies for the $3750 tax credit. Total price low 20's. @@LuckyLopez777
electric vehicles still need crude oil for lubricants. gels. oils. and machine oil. rubber. plastics. and glass. electric vehicles actually use more crude oil on production than stock production vehicles
I love my $2k 2013 Nissan Leaf. Great for local errands. Super cheap and quiet.
Autos are so expensive and inflation is horrible.
I think a new lucid air somewhere around $170,000
should like tesla then, only one lowering prices. can get an instock rwd model 3 for near 30k after rebate.
They have charging stations at the local Casey's around here. It's a gas/convenience store chain. I wouldn't have a big problem with them if I wasn't forced to subsidize them. The owners were pretty annoying at first but I really don't hear any of them constantly bragging about it anymore. A couple of multi-day power outages pretty much ended that. Most people realize now how much the media was lying in an effort to push them. To me they seem probably about 20-30 years away from being practical. They really need a major battery breakthrough.
EV with trailer … just do NOT expect to do a road trip while hauling a trailer. I have yet to see a charging station (even at truck stops) that can accommodate an EV + trailer combo. With the exception of 1 charging station in Tennessee with 4 pull-thru stalls …. every charging station I’ve ever seen (in real life or photos), one has to detach the trailer AND park the trailer somewhere BEFORE being able to pull the EV into the charging station. … oh-so super convenient!
Another perspective on this is my local Ford dealer has a NEW 2022 F150 lightning current price is just over $75,000 down from the $100,000 they originally had it listed for. I from this same dealer I can get a NEW 2023 gas F150 that will out perform the lighting for $48,000 that $27,000 difference buys a lot of gas
Great video! Thanks for bringing awareness to my current situation. Bought a model y out the door for $67k. Driven it for a year now with 10k miles, Carvana is offereing $42k. 25k lost in a year. Damn you tesla!
FOMO be hittin'
@@ipeteagles bRO its crazy I follow a lot of different types of car channels, When the prices were increasing people got Fomo and were buying 70k-80k cars for 115-130k. Fucking hilarious as I said the exact same thing then It was FOMO. Pays off to be a Car guy who has watched the market of cars very close for 14 years. I would never see the value of a Model y being close to 67k. I feel so bad for those people that got taken advantage of. people like me really integrated into the markets knew what exactly was going on. I blame the dealers. but the banks are just as bad.
I find it weird people complaining about lowering prices. They are literally only ones lowering prices in the industry and people complain. I dont get it
I drove by a tesla center in Orlando and Phoenix and both sites had hundreds of cars just sitting. I knew EVs would not be a hit with the general public. There are just too many issues that were never thought through and it would just take a couple of years for the market to succumb to the situation.
I live in a DMV area never had a problem travel to Philly and to the country frequently every trip is more chargers that’s why Tesla is the only option