Hello I'm the euw player originally I went electrocute to farm funny oneshots for tiktok but hob is deffo more stable. I mainly go red tree for sudden impact and eyeball + blue tree for gather storm and focus.
You shouldn't disreagard the crit on collector. When judging the builds calculate the autoattack damage for crit items including the crit and increment the auto damage by dmg x crit chance x crit damage, so dmg + dmg x (25%x75%), which on average increases the damage of each auto by 18,75%, not including IE, and the average percentage increase should be higher on passive.
To your question at 10:50, would not putting the ward down at the very first invade, and saving it for use on the lane bush helped with keeping naut from the level2 and the snowball?
The only way I see this being viable is if they have melees that you need to slow from running at you, otherwise not really worth running. And in that case, the slow is only 20% for 0.75s and only procs on being fully energized... so if you're autoing a wave or something and you just aren't fully stacked, it is now situationally useless. In addition, you have to be much more situationally aware to put this to best use. That being said, IF you can maintain that situational awareness and your enemies step forward a bit too much, it's basically a free kill. Really good for when jg ganks as well.
I am just curious what your last item would be here. Would you rather finish crit to get consistent damage because you were peeled, or would you rather look to buy life steal last? Aka in what situations/games would you buy what
I’d be curious to hear more in depth thoughts on voltaic, maybe more replays of how the slow affects fights I found myself rewatching various moments right as he charged passive to see the impact but I’m wondering just how much it matters, easier E-Q hits etc.
it’s very good in low elo because you can often catch people alone while with your team slow them and net them and they are dead i’d say it’s better in team fights
Is this good bc of the slow? Or the early extra 100 dmg on energise? Bc opportunity is 300g cheaper and has 6 lethality more and 5 ad less. Why not rush that since its cheap? Btw, i tested opportunity vs shieldbow as 4th item and the dmg is the exact same. So ig that would make opp better bc its 300g cheaper
@ramending840 barrier is kind of troll because you get one shot anyway as it's only like 500HP. Maybe on an AS based champ it could work because you get maybe three more autos off but on Cait where you need to be engaging with headshot for all of your damage I feel like it's just bad.
@@Shobu55 ya the diff is the 25% chance rng, but you don't play for that until you have 2nd item ad components minimum and there's a 75% you don't hit whereas voltaic always works and has better stats just a tradeoff, I think it's worth
Hello, why you are not playing the new prestige skin? I am thinking of buying it and wanted to know your opinion. Is it bad for competitive? Or is it entirely up to preferences?
I don't see it being better than hubris in anyway, Hubris has same lethality + 5 more ad + 15 ad base passive and infinite stacking. Unless you really, need the slow of the item like zed utilizes the slow to land triple Qs, I don't see this item being better on ADCs
depends on how the voltaic bonus damage works with electrocute headshot + voltaic proc might just count as 3 instances ( auto+headshot+voltaic) and proc electrocute alone
@@voidroad You either have to hit Q,W,E or R first and then hit a headshot + another aa to proc electrocute. So the best way to abuse it is with E and W since you slow/cc the enemy anyways and then can follow up with a headshot + another aa then electrocute will proc. I think it's a special playstyle that has it's benefits. The crit loss is bad in the long run since you will either miss 25% crit chance later or lifesteal. I think this build focues more on the early to mid game, and later you are kind of forced to sell voltaic since the 100extra dmg will not matter so much. Might be a decent build for the upcoming season since it's more early game focused. Edit: I watched some of the mentioned master guys replays and most of the time he abuses his electrocute with E+Q combo into Headshot/AA.
I actually just lost a game because hubris has no damage until assist and the enemy team got away with 1 hp, I'd say collector and voltaic are better than hubris first
Can you show more games when the enemy ADC is really fed and you just afk under tower? I feel like its very educational and there is not much of that out there on youtube.
It's because it's usually really boring best case scenario you are doing nothing while he hits your tower, worst case scenario you're getting pushed out of lane/dove/your teammates are just dying 4v5 into game over
Hey Saber, ever thing about hiring an editor to cut your video to 12-15 mins. Or even do it by yourself, that would be more engaging for the viewer to cut down boring part.
I prefer to watch the full gameplay. If I need to speed it up I can adjust the playback speed dynamically. Truncating to fights removes important material for studying laning, macro, keeping track of power curves for each champion, and all kinds of decisionmaking.
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Hello I'm the euw player originally I went electrocute to farm funny oneshots for tiktok but hob is deffo more stable.
I mainly go red tree for sudden impact and eyeball + blue tree for gather storm and focus.
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You shouldn't disreagard the crit on collector. When judging the builds calculate the autoattack damage for crit items including the crit and increment the auto damage by dmg x crit chance x crit damage, so dmg + dmg x (25%x75%), which on average increases the damage of each auto by 18,75%, not including IE, and the average percentage increase should be higher on passive.
14:51 wow game changer with Cyclosword guaranteeing net. Energized Auto > Net > Headshot, I wonder if this is why the EU player uses electrocute
To your question at 10:50, would not putting the ward down at the very first invade, and saving it for use on the lane bush helped with keeping naut from the level2 and the snowball?
The only way I see this being viable is if they have melees that you need to slow from running at you, otherwise not really worth running. And in that case, the slow is only 20% for 0.75s and only procs on being fully energized... so if you're autoing a wave or something and you just aren't fully stacked, it is now situationally useless. In addition, you have to be much more situationally aware to put this to best use. That being said, IF you can maintain that situational awareness and your enemies step forward a bit too much, it's basically a free kill. Really good for when jg ganks as well.
I am just curious what your last item would be here. Would you rather finish crit to get consistent damage because you were peeled, or would you rather look to buy life steal last? Aka in what situations/games would you buy what
I always bt into sell boots for rfc
I’d be curious to hear more in depth thoughts on voltaic, maybe more replays of how the slow affects fights
I found myself rewatching various moments right as he charged passive to see the impact but I’m wondering just how much it matters, easier E-Q hits etc.
it’s very good in low elo because you can often catch people alone while with your team slow them and net them and they are dead i’d say it’s better in team fights
The slow seems completely irrelevant I never notice it in my games lmao
its the 100 bonus ad damage the item is for
I miss when items werent so solved.
Is this good bc of the slow? Or the early extra 100 dmg on energise?
Bc opportunity is 300g cheaper and has 6 lethality more and 5 ad less. Why not rush that since its cheap?
Btw, i tested opportunity vs shieldbow as 4th item and the dmg is the exact same. So ig that would make opp better bc its 300g cheaper
if it is same damage id pay 300g for an extra barrier with only 90s cooldown
extra damage, the slow seems irrelevant. opportunity is good but not as strong i think
@ramending840 barrier is kind of troll because you get one shot anyway as it's only like 500HP. Maybe on an AS based champ it could work because you get maybe three more autos off but on Cait where you need to be engaging with headshot for all of your damage I feel like it's just bad.
Can't be the same damage if you lack 25% crit chance and you don't crit for the Headshot AA.
@@Shobu55 ya the diff is the 25% chance rng, but you don't play for that until you have 2nd item ad components minimum and there's a 75% you don't hit whereas voltaic always works and has better stats
just a tradeoff, I think it's worth
Hello, why you are not playing the new prestige skin? I am thinking of buying it and wanted to know your opinion. Is it bad for competitive? Or is it entirely up to preferences?
Haven't unlocked it yet!
I don't see it being better than hubris in anyway, Hubris has same lethality + 5 more ad + 15 ad base passive and infinite stacking. Unless you really, need the slow of the item like zed utilizes the slow to land triple Qs, I don't see this item being better on ADCs
depends on how the voltaic bonus damage works with electrocute
headshot + voltaic proc might just count as 3 instances ( auto+headshot+voltaic) and proc electrocute alone
@@voidroad You either have to hit Q,W,E or R first and then hit a headshot + another aa to proc electrocute.
So the best way to abuse it is with E and W since you slow/cc the enemy anyways and then can follow up with a headshot + another aa then electrocute will proc.
I think it's a special playstyle that has it's benefits. The crit loss is bad in the long run since you will either miss 25% crit chance later or lifesteal.
I think this build focues more on the early to mid game, and later you are kind of forced to sell voltaic since the 100extra dmg will not matter so much.
Might be a decent build for the upcoming season since it's more early game focused.
Edit: I watched some of the mentioned master guys replays and most of the time he abuses his electrocute with E+Q combo into Headshot/AA.
@@Shobu55 tbh i'd just run HoB if i went voltaic. it helps secure the procs on a fleeing enemy
I actually just lost a game because hubris has no damage until assist and the enemy team got away with 1 hp, I'd say collector and voltaic are better than hubris first
does using e charge it faster, and does it share charge with fleet?
yes to both!
yo ngl i been going that on vayne and cait for awhile lol. its so fun when it works. doesnt always work lol
Can you show more games when the enemy ADC is really fed and you just afk under tower? I feel like its very educational and there is not much of that out there on youtube.
It's because it's usually really boring best case scenario you are doing nothing while he hits your tower, worst case scenario you're getting pushed out of lane/dove/your teammates are just dying 4v5 into game over
@@xFSNSaberHappens but we want to see how you end up winning the game when you lose the lane.
@@julianlezamafarfan4963 will try to look for those!
sorry yall this build is straight TRASH, the 3 item power spike pales in comparison to Collector --> LDR --> IE
nice we got a fun variation
Wait so is hob better than fleet atm?
Always has been for the last couple of patches.
for sure, I think fleet sucks personally
i tried this cook ages ago but i feel like it was assssss
so electro or hail of blades?
Imo hail of blades is still the better option
def hail of blades imo
@@xFSNSaberDo you build it as 1st or 2nd item?
is that aiden yasuo?
ur insane
You are a god player , pretty sure you could build deathcap on cait and it would work.😅
Hey Saber, ever thing about hiring an editor to cut your video to 12-15 mins. Or even do it by yourself, that would be more engaging for the viewer to cut down boring part.
I prefer to watch the full gameplay. If I need to speed it up I can adjust the playback speed dynamically.
Truncating to fights removes important material for studying laning, macro, keeping track of power curves for each champion, and all kinds of decisionmaking.
Editing and chopping everything up is lame. We're not tiktok slop chewers.
there was one where he edited it or someone else did, people lost their shit