Please i am a residential automation engineer in Nigeria and I have been looking to buy the trousers your electricians wear... Please what keyword should I search... If I search "electrician trousers" I don't see anything similar.
Luxurious site for installation. Like you say, most domestic involves reaching over the deep fat fryer while trying not to stand in the cat litter tray.
I did not expect you guys, could do pvc conduit installation. It's much neater & the cable is secure. Rather than the usual bear cable installation, highly unsafe & surprisingly accepted by the BS requirement. Now that's what we called a proper electrical installation. Hats of there 👏 👌
I’m only on an apprenticeship so I haven’t done everything but I love doing/helping with jobs like these. It’s all quite simple after a while but it’s far from boring.
Interesting video Lee and I really enjoyed watching it, some good tips for newbies to conduit. D line saddles are my go to. They leave the conduit neater and compliant re: premature collapse. A few things to mention though...... I calculate your volt drop to be 14.64V using a 20A MCB with 0.61 Ohm so not good as is though your Zs was in order. I think the IP socket was okay before you hit the in circuit neon with 500V. You should also have had your CPC in the earth bar when you IR'd the cabling. Other than that, a good effort. 👍
For PVC conduit I always used a plumbers pipe cutter (retired now). Always a clean cut and a slight chamfer on the cut so easy to fit into couplers/boxes ETC. clean and tidy and quick with no mess.
The difference between electrical work on your side of the world is always interesting to me. I'm in the States and not gluing PVC is a never. And I've also never used a bending spring haha. We tend to use torches.
Always enjoyed installing conduit because with care you can make it look good. Pulling in singles I always used some talcum powder to reduce the friction on long runs particularly when there are bends. If you pull cables through too fast it’s possible to melt the plastic on the edges of the conduit box where the singles enter. A piece of soft cloth helps to prevent that happening.
Fantastic video you know you stuff good all rounder practical was good and the theory was even better. Most electrician will only show the practical side of the work. Well done pal
Nice work Lee. Only thing i would do different, is apply the glue on to the tube instead of on to the socket or box. That way you are less likely to get glue inside the tube, creating a potential obstacle.
My first job; I was about 8 years old and I did a 3 bed house rewire. By did, I mean my old man sent me into the crawl spaces under the floor and in the loft and used my skinny ability to grab items inside wall cavities. Also had me chasing cable runs in walls in advance of him doing the fit. What did I get for all this? A tenner! Thought it was awesome.
Those 90s look a bit tight, that's why the spring is so hard to pull out. Internal radius should be 50mm so I always bend it over the top of my knee for a smoother bend. Might not be as tight to the ceiling but easier to pull the wires through. Nice to see someone take time to do a nice tidy job.
Thanks for this detailed video, I appreciated seeing your process and hearing your rationale. I am a homeowner learning to do some of my own electrical work. Do you have any instructional resources you could share for a little more detail on your calculations, testing, and troubleshooting?
I definitely love tube work. It’s my forte. But galvanised steel tube is my overall favourite because it takes maths and hard grafting. Wicked video! 👍
Nice attention to detail! What saddles are you using? They look much smarter than the standard saddles with those two annoying small screws that always disappear.
Very surprised you guys didn’t know that the low insulation resistance would be coming from the fact line and neutral would connected across the neon, that’s why always connect your conductors with wago’s to do insulation resistance testing then connect socket outlets after. Great install none the less👍🏻🍻
Tidy installation there guys. The low insulation reading will be coming from the neon indicator in the outdoor socket. It will be connected across line and neutral after the switch on the socket and it’s the voltage from your Megger that’s making it illuminate 😊
The reason it’s faulty is because he just whacked 500v straight between L-N. Done this on an RCD socket before and always do 250v before regardless if it’s a new install
@@sk83rboy00 not true, the meggers are designed to protect sensitive equipment. If you look when he took the reading It only applied 160v to the circuit because it detected a load
You need to revisit the IR test. To comply with BS7671 it needs to be done with the cpc connected to the means of earthing. All you have tested in that video is that the L/N/E conductors are electrically separated from each other. If there's a connection between Line & the green house frame, for example, you won't pick it up... Nice tip about the draw wire storage though 🙂
My bosses brother and I were installing consumer units in new build flats about 13 years ago, I would install one to his two, he would take the mick out of me for it for the whole install and got the other contractors to do the same. When it came to test and inspect all his boards had to be redone, mine passed with flying colours haha
I must admit I was surprised when you did the insulation resistance test at 500V with an outside socket that as a neon on it. The reason the neon didn’t work was because you’d put 500V through it. Nice install though 👍
The Megger only put 160v through it because it detected the load, but yeah the neon is where the false reading was coming from. Still looks like a faulty socket though, as only one of the two neons was illuminating.
No expert myself mate but that draw spring wire metal head has a loop to strip the singles pass them through and bend them back on themselves….if you strip enough and only pass a bit through the hole on draw wire the looped over stripped single will rub along the conduit making pulling cables smooth work….Top as always mate
If there wasn’t ducting to the greenhouse how would you have got round that? I need to run cable under set paving flags so could do with some ideas cheers
It looks great, but my I have two big complaints in relation to future serviceability. 1) The sections being glued together. 2) The seemingly lack of notch the holes where it passes through the shelves. Item 1 means you can no longer dissasemble the conduit and reroute/repurpose it in the future, and item 2 means the shelves are now trapped in place by the piping and cannot be removed.
Hi there, thank you for the video. How many sockets and breakers in total was installed? Did you use branch or loop toplogy? Is this 4mm or 2.5mm cable? What breaker did you use?
I would always rather use the curve piece. If you need to change or refit anything, remove the curves and you can pull the cable through one straight pipe after the other. Also, I could not see the clips, but the ones I use can connect to another clip left & right, so you can connect 3 conduit pipes with just one nail / screw, even different diameters.
After pulling some antenna cable through some flexible conduit somebody reminded me about the rope loop and I was cursing them going oh that's right I should've done that and of course the robe came off. thankfully it was only 10 feet remaining and I was smart and fed them from the top which was up on the second floor so with somebody upstairs pushing it and me wiggling the conduit that was still out of the ground I got it the last 10 feet.
Nice in depth video Lee, are those the d line conduit saddle clips you used? Would you have any issues with using those clips also for swa and ev cable installs too
Great video, if you have the measured R1+R2 can you reverse the calculation to get the length? So times r1+r2 by 1000 then divide by the per meter resistance? Keep up the good work
You can, but in both cases you need to consider poor connections may also increase the resistance. One of the reasons we're supposed to compare calculated R1+R2 to the measured value, and also compare to measured Rn+R2, is to detect loose connections that could potentially overheat and cause fires. Can't see a problem with doing it backwards though: "to get that reading we should've had a run of 50m, but our run was only around 30m... Maybe we have a high-resistance fault somewhere on the circuit?"
We don't use cement. We have straight joints and boxes that have small metal clips in them that holds the conduit in place. I use ABB AJ20 and as a junction box for example ABB AU19
Tidy install! But they really should of picked up on the neon lowering the insulation resistance, I'm pretty sure it's in the gn3. IE short out the LN conductors in a current carrying device.
Interesting to take two set of cables to the socket by the moose head instead of putting a junction in the t-box just above the DB. Would have saved some cable, but i guess it's an extra juction
PVC conduit in a greenhouse, good chance it could melt or become a bit soft! I would have went with metal as a belt and braces approach to avoid such an event!
Nice to see the uk finally taking after the rest of Europe. It’s been the way trough generations of ducting for over 100 years, so you are a bit late to the game. But it’s good that you start adopting established standards. :)
Great content Lee , enjoy watching and learning, a Quick question : would you recommend this Book 📖 for apprentice THE ELECTRICIANS GUIDE TO GOOD ELECTRICAL PRACTICE by unite the union thanks ⚡️👊
Industrial and commercial. House bashing’s alright and you can earn some decent coin but it’s a bit too basic for me with the belt and braces work. I love tube, my favourite job…
With the blue draw rope just twist it against its twists so they open up and push the cable through. Do it a couple of times and when you pull on the rope it will tighten against the cable. A little bit of tape should be used for belts and braces.
There's some guidance about how much you can pull through due to the risk of it chaffing the insulation too much Not been an issue for me but it is one of those regs for single wires Although it might be for metal conduit rather than PVC, I'm sure someone will correct me if it is 👍
@@therealdojj metal is thredded so no need for glue, plus our firm always makes us glue it as it just increases the strength of the conduit if it was in fire conditions etc
I love domestic works, customer interaction, on site you’re just one guy on a big project.For me commercial work is boring, just metal munching and half the guys with gold cards don’t even know how to wire things or know what materials are and what you need- I suppose it’s just what they’re used too. But a ducter or a labourer can learn how to do tray etc.. so what is the point of them taking there qualifications and just do containment lol
Nephew just done his A levels and taking a year out. Wants a hands on career but likes animals. Has grades for vetinary medicine but also likes electrical work. What would you do if you could start again - vet or electrician and why? Also not very security focused these videos - 12:54 shows where the clients safe is. Clearly from that real estate those clients have a good networth
Let us know if you have any more PVC conduit tips?
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Blåkläder work trousers
Maybe some cable lubricant when pulling single cables through ?
We wear Blåkläder
@@tombickerton4114 I use silicone spray but only in old rewire. New cable and conduits are already very slippery from the factory
Great job Lee 👏🏼
Luxurious site for installation. Like you say, most domestic involves reaching over the deep fat fryer while trying not to stand in the cat litter tray.
I did not expect you guys, could do pvc conduit installation. It's much neater & the cable is secure. Rather than the usual bear cable installation, highly unsafe & surprisingly accepted by the BS requirement. Now that's what we called a proper electrical installation. Hats of there 👏 👌
It is so awesome to see someone take such pride in his work.... I doff's me cap good sir:)
I’m only on an apprenticeship so I haven’t done everything but I love doing/helping with jobs like these. It’s all quite simple after a while but it’s far from boring.
Interesting video Lee and I really enjoyed watching it, some good tips for newbies to conduit. D line saddles are my go to. They leave the conduit neater and compliant re: premature collapse. A few things to mention though...... I calculate your volt drop to be 14.64V using a 20A MCB with 0.61 Ohm so not good as is though your Zs was in order. I think the IP socket was okay before you hit the in circuit neon with 500V. You should also have had your CPC in the earth bar when you IR'd the cabling. Other than that, a good effort. 👍
For PVC conduit I always used a plumbers pipe cutter (retired now). Always a clean cut and a slight chamfer on the cut so easy to fit into couplers/boxes ETC. clean and tidy and quick with no mess.
Always take your single through the spring and anchor at the tip end, it stops over stretching the spring if it gets stuck when you pull it out.👍
That’s slightly genius, I’ll be taking that, thank you!!!
@@corymac you are very welcome, happy bending!....👍
35 years and a lot of f'd springs, you learn something every day🤩
Only an apprentice myself but was looking for this comment, several springs later an old spark showed me this trick 😂
@@QsKxHardScopeZz I'm not saying I'm an old sparky......but the lads called me Jurasic Spark!.....lol.
You con du it Lee
Winning comment!
The difference between electrical work on your side of the world is always interesting to me. I'm in the States and not gluing PVC is a never. And I've also never used a bending spring haha. We tend to use torches.
seems like their PVC is much thinner than ours.
What a great video mate, great electrician with some sound advice
Always enjoyed installing conduit because with care you can make it look good.
Pulling in singles I always used some talcum powder to reduce the friction on long runs particularly when there are bends.
If you pull cables through too fast it’s possible to melt the plastic on the edges of the conduit box where the singles enter.
A piece of soft cloth helps to prevent that happening.
Fantastic video you know you stuff good all rounder practical was good and the theory was even better. Most electrician will only show the practical side of the work. Well done pal
Excellent practical guide, cheers chaps…
Makes a nice change from seeing twin/ E cable every where, nice job guys.
Nice work Lee. Only thing i would do different, is apply the glue on to the tube instead of on to the socket or box. That way you are less likely to get glue inside the tube, creating a potential obstacle.
My first job; I was about 8 years old and I did a 3 bed house rewire. By did, I mean my old man sent me into the crawl spaces under the floor and in the loft and used my skinny ability to grab items inside wall cavities.
Also had me chasing cable runs in walls in advance of him doing the fit.
What did I get for all this? A tenner! Thought it was awesome.
Me too, great times
At least you got paid! Great story.
So, my Dad wasn't the only one in favour of Child Labour!!
Those 90s look a bit tight, that's why the spring is so hard to pull out. Internal radius should be 50mm so I always bend it over the top of my knee for a smoother bend. Might not be as tight to the ceiling but easier to pull the wires through. Nice to see someone take time to do a nice tidy job.
Thanks for this detailed video, I appreciated seeing your process and hearing your rationale. I am a homeowner learning to do some of my own electrical work. Do you have any instructional resources you could share for a little more detail on your calculations, testing, and troubleshooting?
I definitely love tube work. It’s my forte. But galvanised steel tube is my overall favourite because it takes maths and hard grafting. Wicked video! 👍
Nice attention to detail! What saddles are you using? They look much smarter than the standard saddles with those two annoying small screws that always disappear.
Very surprised you guys didn’t know that the low insulation resistance would be coming from the fact line and neutral would connected across the neon, that’s why always connect your conductors with wago’s to do insulation resistance testing then connect socket outlets after. Great install none the less👍🏻🍻
Tidy installation there guys. The low insulation reading will be coming from the neon indicator in the outdoor socket. It will be connected across line and neutral after the switch on the socket and it’s the voltage from your Megger that’s making it illuminate 😊
Completely right! cheers!
The amount of experience lee has you think he would of seen that….. neons always give false readings
The reason it’s faulty is because he just whacked 500v straight between L-N. Done this on an RCD socket before and always do 250v before regardless if it’s a new install
@@sk83rboy00 not true, the meggers are designed to protect sensitive equipment. If you look when he took the reading It only applied 160v to the circuit because it detected a load
@@sk83rboy00 roughly 0.25?
Interesting video again! In the Netherlands PVC conduit is the standard for all electrical (and often even data) cabling (as Jordan probably knows).
You need to revisit the IR test. To comply with BS7671 it needs to be done with the cpc connected to the means of earthing. All you have tested in that video is that the L/N/E conductors are electrically separated from each other. If there's a connection between Line & the green house frame, for example, you won't pick it up...
Nice tip about the draw wire storage though 🙂
I ALWAYS used singles when using conduit. Much easier when you have a few cables to run in it.
My bosses brother and I were installing consumer units in new build flats about 13 years ago, I would install one to his two, he would take the mick out of me for it for the whole install and got the other contractors to do the same. When it came to test and inspect all his boards had to be redone, mine passed with flying colours haha
The old ‘we haven’t got time to do it right but we’ve got time to do it twice’
When I did my 2391, I remember we was told by Mr John Collins esq, about the neon, circa 2010,
Nice jobs lads,
Very neat and tidy job guys 😊
I must admit I was surprised when you did the insulation resistance test at 500V with an outside socket that as a neon on it. The reason the neon didn’t work was because you’d put 500V through it. Nice install though 👍
Or just short LN conductors and test at 500v
The Megger only put 160v through it because it detected the load, but yeah the neon is where the false reading was coming from.
Still looks like a faulty socket though, as only one of the two neons was illuminating.
And we did this in the past without laser!And still very neat..
Lee this is a great video. Some many correct lessons with pvc conduit.
Glad you enjoyed it
An interesting and well presented video - thanks. (Clearly professional production and filming as well, which helps.)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice neat job - as all the existing trunking was white maybe white conduit would fit in better?
Hey, Lee! I missed you so! Nice job done again.
No expert myself mate but that draw spring wire metal head has a loop to strip the singles pass them through and bend them back on themselves….if you strip enough and only pass a bit through the hole on draw wire the looped over stripped single will rub along the conduit making pulling cables smooth work….Top as always mate
My first conduit job was at Birmingham dental hospital in 1991! Ran miles of it! Tidy install btw!!
Good video Lee, explained everything you were doing whilst giving a few helpful little tips. 👍🏻
Thanks 👍
If there wasn’t ducting to the greenhouse how would you have got round that? I need to run cable under set paving flags so could do with some ideas cheers
Lee has so many tricks and tips. Thanks
It looks great, but my I have two big complaints in relation to future serviceability. 1) The sections being glued together. 2) The seemingly lack of notch the holes where it passes through the shelves. Item 1 means you can no longer dissasemble the conduit and reroute/repurpose it in the future, and item 2 means the shelves are now trapped in place by the piping and cannot be removed.
1. No.
2. It's not a hole, it is a notch.
best vid yet
Good planning and neat result.
You probably had a line to neutral short due to the fact the socket had a neon, not necessarily a faulty socket
Very tidy workmanship. 👍🏻
But why black tube when the rest of garage is white tube.??? 🤔
Lee is a great electrician!
Happy New year 🎉🎉🎉
That was great working ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Where in the USA can we get a bending spring… perhaps make do with any spring of the right size .. .does this work with 3/4 as well?
Hi there, thank you for the video. How many sockets and breakers in total was installed? Did you use branch or loop toplogy? Is this 4mm or 2.5mm cable? What breaker did you use?
Yes great job was that circuits on radials
I honestly think you guys do a great job, I'd love a masterclass series. Think these would be top videos.
Noted!
I would always rather use the curve piece. If you need to change or refit anything, remove the curves and you can pull the cable through one straight pipe after the other.
Also, I could not see the clips, but the ones I use can connect to another clip left & right, so you can connect 3 conduit pipes with just one nail / screw, even different diameters.
Thanks for the video =)
Did you calculate volt drop? 16A radial with 2.5mm conductors with a length of 44M you said, pretty sure you would need to increase the cable size?
Correct would need to be 4mm not watched the full video yet so i don't know the actual length of each circuit yet
12.6 volts . A shade over 5% at 230v
Where can you get the colored page markers, in Lee's on site guide, about 28 minutes in, I'm doing my level 2, they would be helpful.. Great video.
The socket wasn't faulty you just blew the neon when meggering line-neutral at 500volts , obviously the switch was closed
Just what I was thinking. 500v through a neon light = fucked haha
the singles on the bending spring should be pulled through the middle of the spring
My first job was fitting 15amp bakelite mains sockets in a sanatarium
A master at work. Enjoy the beer.
You got that right!
After pulling some antenna cable through some flexible conduit somebody reminded me about the rope loop and I was cursing them going oh that's right I should've done that and of course the robe came off. thankfully it was only 10 feet remaining and I was smart and fed them from the top which was up on the second floor so with somebody upstairs pushing it and me wiggling the conduit that was still out of the ground I got it the last 10 feet.
Nice in depth video Lee, are those the d line conduit saddle clips you used? Would you have any issues with using those clips also for swa and ev cable installs too
You usually use metal clips to ensure the cables don't drop in a fire. Doesn't the plastic conduit melt and drop the cables?
clips will still be around the cables though
All you lads are so natural on the camera. I'd be stuttering all over the joint
Great video, if you have the measured R1+R2 can you reverse the calculation to get the length? So times r1+r2 by 1000 then divide by the per meter resistance? Keep up the good work
You can, but in both cases you need to consider poor connections may also increase the resistance. One of the reasons we're supposed to compare calculated R1+R2 to the measured value, and also compare to measured Rn+R2, is to detect loose connections that could potentially overheat and cause fires.
Can't see a problem with doing it backwards though: "to get that reading we should've had a run of 50m, but our run was only around 30m... Maybe we have a high-resistance fault somewhere on the circuit?"
Nice work dude
We don't use cement. We have straight joints and boxes that have small metal clips in them that holds the conduit in place. I use ABB AJ20 and as a junction box for example ABB AU19
Tidy install! But they really should of picked up on the neon lowering the insulation resistance, I'm pretty sure it's in the gn3. IE short out the LN conductors in a current carrying device.
Yes I don’t think it was a dodgy sockect it was the neon
Nice tips.
Luke's Controversial Opinions would be a great set of youtube shorts 😂
Get Luke to help you move the shelf back in the green house.
He can be your melon aid
What was the attachment you had on the SDS drill, so the drill wouldn’t slip on the brick work, seems like a very handy tool
You mean the ring around the bit? It's the vacuum cleaner, doesn't help with slipping
What he said 👆
@@justme5384 feel like a clown 😂
Great video guys 😎
Great work but please dont put 500v through a neon socket again that's why your IR reading was poor
Excellent video!
Thank you very much!
Where did you get those page stickers for your on-site book?
Rub vigorously with a cloth to get some heat into it before bending!
I just wish i get the opportunity to learn from you guys 🙏
Interesting to take two set of cables to the socket by the moose head instead of putting a junction in the t-box just above the DB. Would have saved some cable, but i guess it's an extra juction
PVC conduit in a greenhouse, good chance it could melt or become a bit soft! I would have went with metal as a belt and braces approach to avoid such an event!
Curious why you used rigid as opposed to flexible conduit....customer preference?
For what reason would you use flexicon?
Great video, should be called pvc conduit masterclass. I get what you are saying, real grafter. Yes I really love cats too haha.
Nice to see the uk finally taking after the rest of Europe. It’s been the way trough generations of ducting for over 100 years, so you are a bit late to the game. But it’s good that you start adopting established standards. :)
Should the metal greenhouse have any bonding
What is it with the horrible artex ceilings in garages....?
Nice job guy's... Alex.
What connections did you use to go from singles to armoured in that whiska box?
Wagos
Great content Lee , enjoy watching and learning, a Quick question : would you recommend this Book 📖 for apprentice THE ELECTRICIANS GUIDE TO GOOD ELECTRICAL PRACTICE by unite the union thanks ⚡️👊
What gloves do you use in the CU area?
Anyone picked up on the c3 for consumer heigjt from base of floor?
Expansion coupler anyone? also does that not count as an exported earth? Great job tho!
Maybe TT
Industrial and commercial. House bashing’s alright and you can earn some decent coin but it’s a bit too basic for me with the belt and braces work. I love tube, my favourite job…
interresting video guys
With the blue draw rope just twist it against its twists so they open up and push the cable through. Do it a couple of times and when you pull on the rope it will tighten against the cable. A little bit of tape should be used for belts and braces.
Great video! Is it code in the UK to glue the conduit? In the Netherlands we don't do that at all.
There's some guidance about how much you can pull through due to the risk of it chaffing the insulation too much
Not been an issue for me but it is one of those regs for single wires
Although it might be for metal conduit rather than PVC, I'm sure someone will correct me if it is 👍
@@therealdojj metal is thredded so no need for glue, plus our firm always makes us glue it as it just increases the strength of the conduit if it was in fire conditions etc
I love domestic works, customer interaction, on site you’re just one guy on a big project.For me commercial work is boring, just metal munching and half the guys with gold cards don’t even know how to wire things or know what materials are and what you need- I suppose it’s just what they’re used too. But a ducter or a labourer can learn how to do tray etc.. so what is the point of them taking there qualifications and just do containment lol
Nephew just done his A levels and taking a year out. Wants a hands on career but likes animals. Has grades for vetinary medicine but also likes electrical work. What would you do if you could start again - vet or electrician and why? Also not very security focused these videos - 12:54 shows where the clients safe is. Clearly from that real estate those clients have a good networth
Our customers get sent a copy of the video before they go live
@@artisanelectrics probably best edit out those safes.
@@artisanelectrics Actually from video there are actually 3 safes there. Would certainly edit that out as that implies some serious value there.
Vet 100%😂
@@jonnffc why?
Surely using the a pre-made bend is more productive?🤣
All good, except why on earth would you use black conduit, when everything else in there is white?