The Early Nelson - Fly Tying Appalachian/Great Smoky Mountain Trout Patterns

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • This pattern is thought to have been introduced to the Great Smoky Mountains by Cap Weise prior to WWII. Likely originating in England and named after the Admiral Lord Nelson, the pattern first came to the states via the Catskills region sometime in the 1840s.
    Hook: #10-16 standard length dry
    Thread: Black
    Tail: Black bear or moose
    Body: Peacock herl
    Wings: Grizzly hackle tips
    Hackle: Grizzly and brown dry fly
    ** Great Smoky Mountain Fly Tying Books used in this series **
    Hatches and Fly Patterns of the Great Smoky Mountains, by Don Kirk, amzn.to/2HLZuVT
    Great Smoky Mountains National Park Angler's Companion, by Ian Rutter, amzn.to/2HQwDQr
    Southeastern Flies, by L.J. DeCuir, amzn.to/3l0McTG
    Savage Flies is a project with the mission of encouraging and teaching fly tying to as many people as possible. The channel is named after one of my western Maryland homewaters, the Savage River. I've been uploading at least three new videos a week (usually Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday).
    Thanks for stopping by. Please let me know in the comments if you have any tying tips you would like to share or if you have any patterns you would like to see tied here.

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  • @SavageFlies
    @SavageFlies  3 роки тому +6

    Thanks for all the comments today- I just got off the river so will respond when I get home.. FWIW, this pattern did okay for me today. 😁

  • @JamesMcCutcheon
    @JamesMcCutcheon 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for presenting the history and the tying presentations. I enjoy learning about Fly Tying and Fly Fishing. Have a great weekend. Lucky me I have all the materials to tie up this fly

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому

      You bet James! I love learning the history too and will certainly keep trying to share it when I can. 😁

  • @jamesphillips2216
    @jamesphillips2216 2 роки тому

    Just ran across the Smokey Mountain series, super cool!! I’ll have to check out all of the videos!! This fly is awesome, I’ll try tying it!! Thanks Matt, I appreciate the way you’re able to give the history and detailed instructions on tying the fly!!

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  2 роки тому

      Well thank you James! I appreciate the kind words my friend. :-)

  • @michaelrollins1370
    @michaelrollins1370 3 роки тому +1

    Great pattern matt, great technique. Love all the info you give on all the patterns. Can't wait for the next series

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому

      Oh yeah, the pheasant skin series is going to be fun. Probably mid November. 😁

  • @leemowers9395
    @leemowers9395 3 роки тому +1

    Nice short little fly, reminds me of a mepps spinner fly.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому

      Thanks Lee. Didn't Mepps make the Rooster Tail? I loved those as a kid in Georgia.

    • @leemowers9395
      @leemowers9395 3 роки тому +1

      Product Details. Developed in the 1950's by Howard Worden, the Worden's® Original Rooster Tail® inline spinner is one of the most productive lures ever invented.

  • @dsmt8703
    @dsmt8703 3 роки тому

    This is going to help me out on the river

  • @martyrothman3933
    @martyrothman3933 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Matt

  • @wayneandrews1278
    @wayneandrews1278 2 роки тому

    Great looking fly just about seen all your video have great day my friend

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  2 роки тому

      Thank you Wayne! I certainly appreciate you watching them all my friend. :-)

  • @glennlynn782
    @glennlynn782 Рік тому

    Have A Merry Christmas & A New Year

  • @mikeney5113
    @mikeney5113 3 роки тому

    Nice cool looking tie matt.thanks for sharing

  • @jasonarrowood3349
    @jasonarrowood3349 3 роки тому

    Nice fly, will be tying that one.

  • @jeffreystone7327
    @jeffreystone7327 2 роки тому

    Yes Sir that is a heavy hackled fly. But man it looks good. Very nice job. I’d like to have a fly tying police license. I’d be confiscating some of these incredible flies you tie 😉. Great video, thank you.

  • @tannerpeavy3356
    @tannerpeavy3356 3 роки тому

    This one looks great

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому

      Thanks! It did okay for me yesterday but I'm going to need to try it out a few more times before I decide if it will be a staple in my fly boxes going forward. It might be. I'm going to have to practice it in a few more sizes and give it a few more trial runs. :-)

  • @bigdaddy99929
    @bigdaddy99929 3 роки тому

    Cool little gnat like fly. 🙂

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому +1

      Yep, I caught two with it this afternoon. Not big fish, but at least I know it will fool some of them. 😁

  • @glenndotter5065
    @glenndotter5065 9 місяців тому

    Tied in 18&20, it would be a good midge to go with a Griffiths gnat

  • @edwardchavez5627
    @edwardchavez5627 3 роки тому +1

    Good Morning Sir Matt, another great tying video. This fly is really cool. You use four materials from four different animals to help us catch an awesome fish mind blowing. Bear... really that's cool. I have a friend who works in the IT department with me he's going back home for a little bit on vacation and Promises to bring back different colors of horsehair I'm up for the experimenting. have you ever used horse hair for flies? I even have wild boar hair, I haven't tried it yet though looks kind of rough. Have a great day Sir Matt thanks again.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому +1

      Edward, that's awesome! There is one GSM pattern I need horse hair for but I don't have any. Horse hair (and probably boar hair too) would make good durable shell backs on some Nymphs. Much stronger than turkey!

    • @michaelrollins1370
      @michaelrollins1370 3 роки тому

      I have pony's I could get some hair from

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому

      That would be great! I'll email you about it later. 👍

    • @michaelrollins1370
      @michaelrollins1370 3 роки тому

      😒👍

  • @michaelmerlino6753
    @michaelmerlino6753 3 роки тому

    Matt,just a suggestion working with peacock.Leave a long tag and make a noodle with the herl,it really reinforces it.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому +1

      Good call Mike. I have tried that but mine end up looking all matted. I'll just have to keep practicing!

    • @michaelmerlino6753
      @michaelmerlino6753 3 роки тому +1

      @@SavageFlies the less times you intertwine the materials the better it will look.Only four or five twists keeps it from matting and still gives it the strength needed.

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому +1

      @@michaelmerlino6753 -Great tip! I just tied next Friday's fly and tried your method on it (a Gray Hackle Peacock wet fly). It turned out okay, but I probably made too many twists. Oh well... I'll keep practicing! Thanks again for the helpful tips. :-)

    • @nealwallace6110
      @nealwallace6110 2 роки тому

      How was the durability with the hurl when you fished it? I was thinking twisting it with the thread or using a mono rib might make it more durable.

    • @michaelmerlino6753
      @michaelmerlino6753 2 роки тому

      @@nealwallace6110 the one thing about hero is it’s age.I have very old hero that is so brittle it’s almost useless.Also if you use one of the new super threads it should hold up quite well.I would go with either a 30 or 50 darnier super thin and won’t mat the hero.

  • @davehall2160
    @davehall2160 3 роки тому +1

    That is a cool looking fly Matt
    Very interesting using bear for the tail, does it float good?

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому

      Thanks Dave, and it actually did float pretty well but the back end was definitely into the surface layer. It wasn't that easy to see in fast, choppy water like a wulff or parachute pattern would be.

  • @flyrodhiker8326
    @flyrodhiker8326 3 роки тому

    Awesome looking fly, let us know how it fishes please

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому +1

      I used it yesterday on the Gunpowder. I did take two fish with it, but only got four all day so that's a pretty small sample size. But it did float well. The tail and body did get down into the surface film, and it wasn't a highly visible fly in any fast, riffled water, but it does look pretty good on top. I think it'll work well on medium-fast, semi-smooth water. Basically where you might use an Adams, but with that little extra tint of green/gold peacock. I'll definitely be tying a few more and keeping some in my box. :-)

  • @brhino1017
    @brhino1017 Рік тому

    My fly will be tied with a larger neck. I will call it the 1/2 Nelson. (A slight for the wrestler fly tyers.) 😁

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  Рік тому

      Oh I remember the half Nelson. :-)

  • @alloutdoorsnovascotia8791
    @alloutdoorsnovascotia8791 3 роки тому +1

    cool theres one black bear fly lol

  • @MVthis
    @MVthis 3 роки тому

    Hay Adam i was just researching this fly and I believe this called the eirly Nelson because of the fether is called the eirly patterson and is fact so I believe this is wy

    • @MVthis
      @MVthis 3 роки тому

      Lol my bad Matt got ahead of my self there

    • @MVthis
      @MVthis 3 роки тому

      The reference to the erly Nelson is due to the hackle that is called early Addams i did refer to it as the erly Paterson with i was wrong but the erly Addams is the style of fether i only made the connection while viewing one of Berry Ord Clark's videos where he explained the hackle so im almost positive thus is wy the erly Nelson was dubbed so

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому

      That's really interesting about the history of how it got the name. I've never heard of an early Adams but it certainly sounds plausible. Thanks for the info!

  • @rabbithole_flies
    @rabbithole_flies 3 місяці тому

    Has nothing to do with the Catskills. Cap developed this fly for Wilson Creek and is named after Dr. Fletcher Nelson President of Lees-McRaes College

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  2 місяці тому

      Great note! I appreciate the insight. :-)

  • @ericrollins4607
    @ericrollins4607 3 роки тому

    Are you tying on a Regal vise? Do you think you'll do a review?

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому

      It is, a Regal Revolution with stainless steel head. My next vise review is the Montana Mongoose in December. I may review the Regal, but I want to be able to give the vise away after reviewing it, and the Regal is a bit more than I can afford to give away right now. Maybe after I can get the channel monetized. 👍

  • @garyhannah756
    @garyhannah756 3 роки тому

    Hey Matt I have tried to send a couple emails about a Smokies Fly book from Roger Lowe. Seeing if you are interested in a copy as a thank you for doing such a good job on the channel. Thanks. Gary

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому

      Thanks so much, but I've actually got three copies myself! I got two extra to donate when we finish the GSM series. 😁

    • @garyhannah756
      @garyhannah756 3 роки тому

      Good news. I think it is out of print

    • @SavageFlies
      @SavageFlies  3 роки тому

      I think you're right Gary. Someone told me Tuckaseegee Fly Shop had some so I bought three copies over the phone while I still could!