@@voodoomcspaghettipants4082 jury management is very important and is something he didn’t do, you could control a whole alliance and orchestrate evictions but you need to nurture relationships as well
@@jackcannone297 and he did outside of Sam. Scottie was bitter towards Tyler for no real reason, as explained in the video. Rockstar and Bayleigh were just crazy and had no real reason to be bitter, and the basis of Tyler and Bayleighs argument was pretty much none of his doing. Fessy was the worst of them, as he was just too inept to understand Tyler’s game (I think rockstar is in the same boat too). If Tyler was given more time to explain his game I bet he wins. He wasn’t like Paul who actively caused the whole jury to hate him, he was just given an inept and irrational jury. Also, even if you want to say Tyler’s jury management was subpar, which is fair, you still can’t come up with an argument that he deserved to lose to Kaycee. She had no influence on how the game played out and was merely a number for Tyler and level 6. She did nothing besides win comps and make relationships that tyler told her to make.
@@voodoomcspaghettipants4082 in an ideal world tyler does win BB20, i agree, but you can’t deny kaycee’s win and it was all at the hands of Tyler. Tyler told Bayleigh on feeds to not vote for him at the end, where he loses 1 vote, had 0 relationship with Rockstar, Fessy admired Kaycee’s comp wins for some reason so he’s set to vote for Kaycee (people love to bring up the hypothetical situation that if Haleigh has time to tell Fessy who to vote for, Tyler wins, but that clearly doesn’t happen and would never of happened) and Scottie’s vote was affected cause of the battle back, he made it clear he was gonna work with Tyler if he wins battle back, and then Tyler proceeds to evict him the following week. And at the halfway point he starts to lose grasp of Sam which we both agree on. He also sabotaged his own winning chances as explained in the video. This isn’t to say Tyler is a horrible player because he isn’t a horrible player, but you can’t expect the jury to idolize you and reward you for your gameplay, you have to form bonds and convince them to vote for you. Similar to Danielle Reyes, Danielle is the ideal winner of BB3 but you can’t deny Lisa’s game
Same, I honestly think it’s because she’s one of best examples of a BB runner up game. Kind of a floater but might have a few close allies, doesn’t drive much strategy, still made some moves, but had a major flaw that made her a good person to drag to the end (in GM’s case, it was her awful social game). Plus, her final speeches were iconic
@@TheMurrmursonbottle Andy was more of a floater than GinaMarie was, because you knew where GM stood the entire time and she never switched up her loyalties to people, while Andy constantly jumped from alliance to alliance and was loyal to no one except himself
Porsche literally had the golden key for the 1st half of the season, it was SMART for her to lay low & not make waves. You wanted her to blow up her game out of boredom like Daniele?? Tf
not to mention she hops on the deal to be a vote for the veterans which is WHY they fought to keep her that first round. She forms a strong connection with a power couple that would win and keep her safe and always be a target in front of her (don’t know why that’s being knocked) and then stays low and forms good enough relations with Kalia and Daniele that she’s able to flip to them and then flip back to Rachel once Kalia leaves.
@Certified Cunt There’s also a difference between doing nothing when you don’t really have a choice cause of the golden key or doing nothing for no reason.. It was smart asf for Porsche to lie low for the first half of the game cuz she had the golden key.. tf did you want her to do?? Blow up her game like Daniele??? Porsche picked up her game the second the golden key twist ended, come up with a different argument cause that ones irrelevant
That's debatable. While it is very likely Jordan goes home if pandora's box isn't a thing, there are two big problems. A) Rachel still likely wins out, with kalia still going the next week, likely followed by Shelly then Adam B) After Kalia goes, Porsche is most loyal to Rachel, likely taking her further even in the scenario that Rachel loses any of the comps she needs
Porsche actually made final 2 w/ production working against her, unlike Rachel who needed help numerous times. This ranking is weird. She only lost by 1 vote too
@@brianregan5933 They still helped out Rachel with that VETO comp, it was the same one she won in Week 1 and without that, she cld have easily lost and gone home.
I feel like another fact that puts Daniele lower that he forgot to mention was that she loses against every single person. Also combined with America’s player I think putting her at the bottom is justified. However I could see her being put a few spots higher with some of the reasons you mentioned.
I wonder how she does if Dick is voted out over Dustin, and America’s Plauer doesn’t force him to stay. I doubt she’s the next to go, and without Dick still antagonizing people, Daniele is a lot less hated in the house. Would she still make it to the end? It’s an interesting thought
America and Dick carried her. She should have gone home much, much sooner. If the twist had been different, Eric Stein easily dominates the season. Easily.
More like Americas Player carried both to the end. Neither even deserved to be Final 2. Anyway many would have Dick last in winners rankings, so it makes sense the person who couldn't even beat him in a Final 2 is last in runner up rankings.
Ivette literally called Kaysar a sand n-----, argues with April 24/7, ruined her chances of getting Rachel's vote, and only got Janelle's vote as a pity. She was Maggie's goat.
@@clovesevina9763 I believe the friendship said they would have voted for a Sovereign Six member if a Friendship member hadn't taken a fellow friendship member to the end, but I'm surprised that it would have been April who voted for her since she hated Janelle. I would have figured Maggie would have thrown her the deciding vote if Ivette took Janelle.
@@clovesevina9763 Ivette wins against Janelle if Janelle takes her, but loses if she takes Janelle. I don’t think April would’ve ever voted for Janelle over Ivette if Ivette doesn’t go against the friendship, as April hated both of them, so she might as well side with her alliance
You’re 100% right saying Ivette was Maggie’s goat. Ivette was a terrible BB player. Big alliances help hide bad players (as we see with the cookout in bb23) because all they have to do is follow their leaders like the true sheep they are. Ivette deserves a bottom 3 spot
@@WypsotorNyloff this is true. Her game left a lot to be desired but she did show flashes of game potential. I feel like on a return she would do well, but her bb13 game is so flawd
how do you rank them tho? because a lot of the favorite houseguests won more so because they were likeable and not because they were great players (da’vonne, cody, james, frank, etc)
Ez S1: Emmet or Peter S2: Jon (If he dosent count Neda) S3:Godfrey S4: Cass S5: Kevin (If he dosent count then Ika) S6: Jonny? S7: Adam S8: No Clue S9: Chief Kief
PORSCHE IS THE MOST UNDERRATED RUNNER UP OF ALL TIME WTF SHE MIDDLED ALMOST PERFECTLY THE FIRST HALF OF THE SEASON & THEN DOMINATED THE END GAME W/ COMP WINS!! Show some respect!!
@Jairo Garcia excuse me? Porsche actually made an effort with Jeff, he was just extremely bitter she played a majoe role on evicting him. Also Shelly is a freak who only voted Rachel because she wanted to get back in Jeff and Jordans good Graces. Finally DR counts dont mean ANYTHING. Especially in a season where they editing because only around the returnees
@Jairo Garcia Jeff & Jordan isolated her too, they talked shit about her all season why would Porsche wanna work w/ them?? They were so blind w/ their hatred towards Porsche that they kept insisting she “did nothing” even after Porsche took both of them out. It was pathetic
Surprised you didn't knock Liz down more considering Julia basically sacrificed herself for Liz. Liz was definitely leaving that week until Julia said "get rid of me".
I think she is still rated about right even considering that. She isn't great but should be over all the people she is over on this list, minus Porsche who is severely underrated.
@@alexgray342 Dani had an absolutely shit social game. Luck and comp wins (some of which were thrown to her) were her only saving grace. If Evil Dick wasn't so popular with America, she goes home much sooner and never even makes an All Star Season.
Ok i respect everyone having their own opinions but Porsche is way too low, she would've won if production didn't interfere , she was a huge underdog with kalia and dani and they won comps they needed too and made moves like the double eviction on jeff
@@clovesevina9763 exactly like him saying she played horrible makes no sense she's safe might as well play safe make connections, we see Neda in bbcan5 be safe perjury but does the opposite of Porsche which is win comps and make moves which got her first out after her safety ended, Porsche is a good runner-up not 17.
@@zztanerzz exactly, look at Daniele & Porsche. 2 players who played the beginning of that season very differently, look how it ended up for both of them
@@clovesevina9763 there’s a difference between lying low and being clueless. Porsche was pretty much clueless. She just kinda clung to Rachel and didn’t have great bonds with a majority of the house. Ideally, if she wants to play more passively early on, she makes connections with everyone to give herself a ton of options going into the end game. Instead, she just merely existed and didn’t help herself in any way for a large portion of the game. Her lack of connections is seen in the second half of the season where she is seemingly an afterthought time and time again, and is way too loyal to Rachel when it’s against her best interest
@@thetribehasspoken3050 are you an idiot? Just bc a lot of female runner ups have played rather poorly in bbus history doesn’t mean he’s sexist. You can’t sit here and tell me that someone like Daniele holly or allison deserves to be any higher. You can make a case for Porsche being a bit higher but she shouldn’t touch top 12 either.
@@clovesevina9763 she had very little control throughout the entire game, was on the out for multiple rounds, and actively made multiple decisions against her best interest. She had very little control over her own destiny. Or you can watch the video that also explains why she didn’t play particularly well
@@voodoomcspaghettipants4082 she was never on the outs until week 7 & then she literally ended up back in the majority the next week.. she was in danger final 4 but FOUGHT to save herself. What did Lane do besides say “yes” to whatever his alliance wanted?
Porsche literally would have won the game if production never interfered in the season so I don’t see why she’s ranked so low considering you take likeliness to win the game so seriously whenever making these rankings.
@@junsong9581 she was tho. Who played better than her?? Kalia?? The woman who evicted Lawon??? Or Shelly?? The woman who constantly got caught up in her own lies that she didn’t even know what the truth was??
Dan's probably number one for me. He lost because most of the rookies were jealous that the vets were paid more. But at the same time you could make a case for all the top 5 so I can't disagree that much.
Dan had garbage jury management so he shouldn't be #1. Top 5 I would agree. #1 should be someone who lost despite still having pretty good jury management, and win against most other people. Someone like Tyler for instance, or even Paul on BB18.
@@karson779 naw I agree with her. She can have an opinion. She's not doing anything wrong lol. Porsche played a pretty decent game where she floats through the pre jury and dominates with Kalia in that end game. She beats Adam in that final 2 but since Rachel won final hoh it didn't matter. She got 3/7 of the jury votes and was so close to getting shellys vote. However, Rachel also played well as a strong underdog who scrapped through the endgame after dominating the early game. Though by herself, Porsche played a great game deserving of a higher spot(in my opinion)
@@ethancostellostudent1698 when she writes like 10 comments calling the dude sexist I think she’s in the wrong. It’s one thing to have a different opinion it’s another to attack someone because of their opinion
Absolutely you're right the America's Player twist and having her dad there helped get Dani to the final two, which for the purposes of this video makes her an easy last place even if she is a good player and competitor compared to some of the other runners up. That said I get why America got into their story there are so many people that could relate to it from all sides and wanted to believe in the best possible ending.
Ivette is not a lock to win even throwing final HOH to Janelle. April and James who are the two swing votes both claimed post show they vote Janelle in that F2, which gives Janelle a 4-3 win if both are telling the truth. I do agree that was her best play though.
The way i see it is cody gets derrick jocosta christine and donny, while frankie gets caleb and zach locked This means that hayden nicole and victoria are swings and hayden nicole lean cody
@@sabredark5415 The only vote Cody would get in that Final 2 is Derrick's IMO, losing 8-1. Unless he betrayed Derrick, in which case Derrick bitter votes Frankie, and he loses 9-0. Christine confirmed she votes Frankie in a F2 with Derrick, so we know for sure he doesn't get her btw, when she already voted Derrick over Cody.
i think you could argue that if dani had not gone in with dick her first season she could have been a strong player regardless. good social mind and a comp threat
honestly i think paul should be number 1 because he literally had a complete strangle hold of the season from beginning to end. while tyler was way too loyal to kaycee who he obviously lost to, but other then that it’s still really close, he was put on the block on week 6 during the hacker comp but i don’t he was gonna go home. but as players i think Tyler and Danielle are better than paul because if they were to play multiple times i think they would go further than paul
Except Paul did more to actively tank his chances of getting jury votes, so that's a really serious knock against his game that wasn't present in Tyler's game
@@NYChica23 Tyler made up a fake story about Scottie being his best friend in the house (which Scottie who is an idiot believed) and ended pointlessly targetting him over Haleigh when he returend to the house, despite not even liking Haleigh and Haleigh being a way bigger threat than Scottie. He made up all kinds of unneccessary lies to Sam, who clearly is mentally ill to begin with, then playfully calls her crazy during his jury answers. His did absolutely everything to burn and lose both their votes. Bayleigh too but I think Bayleigh was always voting Kaycee anyway.
@@rolandgreen7484 if I remember correctly from that season when Bayleigh was evicted her and Tyler got into a major argument where if he apologized for something he did (not sure what it was tbh) then he could have gotten Bayleigh's vote at the end granted I think she was unlikely to vote Tyler but Haleigh switched her vote to Tyler so it was a possibility that Bayleigh could have too
Based of how good they played during their second place season (not ranking off whether or not they would get final 2 votes because that depends heavily on if it’s a bitter jury or not and not everyone can control if they are stuck with a really bitter jury like Dani Reyes) I would say 1.) Dan (BB14) 2.) Danielle Reyes (BB3) 3.) Paul Abrahamian (BB19) 4.) Tyler Crispen (BB20) 5.) Allison (BB4) 6.) Paul Abrahamian (BB18) 7.) Dani Donato (BB8) 8.) Cody Calafiore (BB16) 9.) Porsche (BB13) 10.) Nicole B (BB2) Honorable mention goes to Lane (BB12) The worst final 2 member of all time: Azah or Big D 😂 Side note: my entire top 4 all played such great games and lost to a bitter jury. To me that’s not their fault (maybe you can argue it is Tyler’s and Paul’s fault but I disagree I don’t think with their play style they were going to win because of the stupid jury, I can’t fault them for that. Dani Reyes lost because of the lack of the jury house and Dan had zero shot at winning because everyone was jealous… how is that his fault. I hate bitter Jury’s they ruin it for all of us but I absolutely think it’s stupid to rank them based off whether or not they had a bitter jury that makes zero sense) Luck plays a huge part into winning BB , just because you’re unlucky doesn’t mean you were less of a great BB player
how can you have lane and memphis who did pretty much nothing over people who were actively doing things and playing the game hard like paul and porsche?
Bc lane and Memphis were in the majority for a good portion of the game and were socially protected for a long time. Using bb18 Paul as an example, he needed factors out of his control, being victors returns and comp wins, to advance in the game. That obv isn’t a reliable strategy as Paul needed luck to get to the end, whereas lane and Memphis had positioned themselves to be safe and not reliant on luck
@@voodoomcspaghettipants4082 that’s true, but memphis and lane just attached themselves to the dominant players and faced no struggle along the way. paul got unlucky with the format of the first hoh that nicole won as well as the fact that paulie and tiffany were both sibling of past players and alligned with the vets because of that. but he successfully got out of that bad position during week two and got into the majority through his relationship with paulie. he also got unlucky with the care packages that gave michele co-hoh which removed her from a potential replacement nominee as well as having to maneuver around unbreakable showmances. while he did get lucky with victor returning, he wouldn’t of done things like getting rid of da’vonne, zakiyah, and paulie if victor wasn’t there
@@nizzle428 him being unlucky doesn’t really impact his overall game. Ideally, his social position should allow this factors to not ruin his game. You have to give him credit for climbing out of the bottom multiple times but since he had to survive he was never able to control what was going on for a long enough period to set himself up in ideal scenarios. If you want to make the argument that his luck/bad luck offset, he still didn’t play a great game, as he was on the bottom a lot of the game and made some notable poor decisions
this guy gives credit to people that just sit and do nothing and are completely useless, impotent players, as long as they’re being strung along in a big alliance. he calls that agency. what he doesn’t realize is that those players as individuals don’t have agency, their alliances do due to the actions of other people, and giving them credit for that is confusing. he’d probably rate Will from Survivor 30 high in a 3rd place ranking even though he was an awful player, just because he was in the majority for most of the game. he has a very warped perception of a “good game” of big brother.
agreed. i don’t know how you can have people like lane and memphis who did practically nothing over paul who was playing super hard, overcoming bad luck, and just doing things within the game to better his chances of winning
I would love if you can rank the Big Brother Canada winners, runners up, players to never win, etc, I feel like Big Brother Canada is not talked about enough
I disagree completely with Dani being the bottom. Yes, she had a lot of luck... but can you really blame someone and make them the worst runner up because of stuff that was out of their control? Dani at least actively played the game and played it fairly well. You say she went home if Dick wasn’t her father and didn’t veto her... but if Dick wasn’t her father, A. The season is so different it’s not even worth comparing and B. She probably doesn’t even go on the block regardless if she’s not perceived as being part of an unbreakable duo
Well we know from her other 2 seasons it is super unlikely she makes F2 or anywhere near it, without being on a season with her father on it so...And she was a huge jury goat, she even lost to her dad who everyone hated, so based on that I don't think she beats a single person in the house other than maybe Jen.
Who was worse though? Maybe Gina Marie. Maybe Cowboy. That is about it. I guess you could argue Ryan too, but there are hardly any runner ups that aren't clearly over her.
I knew Paul from BB19 was going to be top 2. Are they my least favorite player and do I think they were super overrated, yes. But that season had a lot of non-players that basically allowed them to get final 2.
Did you not listen to ANYTHING he said about his reasoning it's because Dick & Danielle should NOT have been the final 2 they go home before the end game if it wasn't for the Americas Player twist & the fact that Dick was super popular & gained a lot of sympathy from the audience for being a father trying to repair his relationship w/ his daughter so w/o that massive amount of luck that they had no control over they go home before the end game where they won out
@@mindovermatterbecomingyour1561 oh shut up, even with that twist, they deserve to be there over cowboy, gm, Lane, and Memphis. If we are taking twists into account then Paul shouldn’t be high up either. He got 3 weeks of safety, had the ability to save eight people so it made building alliances a lot easier.
Dani is way worse than Lane or Memphis, it isn't even close. Just as Dick is a rigged winner, Danielle is a rigged runner up. Neither make it anywhere near the end without Americas Player, and if you deny this you are just dumb. People are willing to admit this for Dick, but for Danielle as well for some reason, which is weird. And on top of that she was such a goat she loses to every other person in the house in a Final 2, even her super hated father, or Jen. GM and Cowboy I could see a case maybe, but Cowboy was 1 vote from winning Big Brother, and didn't need riggage to make the end, and GM made the end easily with no riggage, so I would probably rate both over her too.
Yeah Holly really didn't deserve any votes, Jessica refused to vote for a man if there was a woman in the final 2, Kat and Holly literally knew each other for years before this, and Nicole was just bitter I guess? Also Holly loses any final 2 scenario in that final 6.
Holly played SO well during the first half of BB21. She was easily one of the best players in the house for such a long stretch. Her big problem is that she just stops playing in the second half. Also a ton of the runner ups really sucked, so her being up there isn't that surprising to me
Holly wasn’t that bad. She was doing great for a good half of the game. Later she started drawing dead and basically relied on Jackson to pull her to the end. Ryan was a terrible player. He was completely unaware of the house dynamics the entire season and got saved by a twist, not to mention all the glaring mistakes he made. His jury answers were also horrible.
@@rolandgreen7484 Jun played a much more passive game, Alison was much more active, I just found her game more impressive, especially with all the shit she did with Nathan. Jun was good but Alison was much more in control of her game. Just kinda how I felt, both were great for sure
the player quality disparity once the top 5 comes on... though at that point it's basically players who should've won. I remain unconvinced that Lane deserves top 10. To me he's no better than Michael who somehow underservingly gets a lot of votes. We agree that Porche genereally is a bit overrated (season 13 didn't really have very strong players) and Enzo is generally underrated. Ginamarie will always be the bottom for me and I still don't think Liz realizes she made it to the finale of Big Brother.
I don’t think even if the old version of deliberating Tyler would win he lied unnecessarily the way he treated Bailey was horrible he told her he didn’t need her vote he didn’t want her vote he’d win without it and he definitely needed her vote Sam told him to be honest with her and she told him if he crossed her she would not forgive him he continued to lie to her and then basically called her crazy during the jury questioning which then cost him her vote
I think you harp on Daniele a ton for a reason I don't necessarily agree with, the idea that her game was apparently greatly improved by luck wasn't anything she had control over by any means. She also was a dominant competitor and ultimately was able to help win those clutch challenges in the tail end of the game. I don't think things outside of these runner-ups control should be really be a knock against them as....what could they do about it
Many regard Dick as worst winner, so I don't see why Danielle as worst runner up is such a surprise. They BOTH benefited from Americas Player and all the riggage. On top of that Danielle was so hated, she likely doesn't have a winning Final 2 out of the whole jury phase, as evidenced that she lost to her hated father, who himself loses to nearly everyone but Danielle. Heck both would have lost to Zach of all people. Danielle's only chance in a F2 is vs Jen. Lastly even with all the riggage, and being this huge jury goat, Danielle needed all her comp wins, and some by her father too, on top of the riggage that benefited Dick mainly, but Danielle by assocation, to even make F2.
I can think of a ton of reasons to rank Dani last. One of the ways to rank those who lose a jury vote is what were their chances to win a jury vote and thus win the game. Danielle wins a jury vote less often than almost every other runner up, so that is a negative. Another is how much control they had in the game. She isn't great there either, Eric and her father and 1 or 2 others were the ones with the control, not her. There are some runner ups worst here probably, but still not great. Another is how secure their position in the game was and how well set up they were to reach the end. She isn't good here either, there are many ways Danielle does not reach the end, even outside the riggage of the season. Last is the fact that there was riggage this season, which benefited both her and her dad, the winner of the season. Not sure if I would rank her last, but no way would I have her any higher than 17th of 21.
Natalie is an abysmal player and I think she should be ranked much lower, but I will say that she should get a lot more credit than she does for the Russell/Jeff votes, as she’s the actual one who comes up with the idea to lie to Jeff, and Kevin just helped execute it. Kevin ran her game in all other aspects though
@@rolandgreen7484 Definitely, Kevin had a much better relationship with Jeff at the time as Natalie is just a naturally antagonistic person and player (or at least she was at her young age). She never wins a season of Big Brother, but she was a competent strategist
@@karson779 I understand that that’s a distinction this channel makes, I just think it’s a really stupid distinction. I don’t understand how you can judge a player of the game by anything more than the game(s) they’ve played.
I think it’s hilarious that Paul has placed 2nd every time he played, and now takes 2nd place on this list about runner ups. The ultimate 2 man.
The fact that I often forget that Tyler didn’t win BB20 shows how much he deserved to win.
Except he wasn’t on BB21 and he didn’t deserve to win lmao
@@thetribehasspoken3050 explain to me how Kaycee played better than Tyler did. I genuinely want to hear this
@@voodoomcspaghettipants4082 jury management is very important and is something he didn’t do, you could control a whole alliance and orchestrate evictions but you need to nurture relationships as well
@@jackcannone297 and he did outside of Sam. Scottie was bitter towards Tyler for no real reason, as explained in the video. Rockstar and Bayleigh were just crazy and had no real reason to be bitter, and the basis of Tyler and Bayleighs argument was pretty much none of his doing. Fessy was the worst of them, as he was just too inept to understand Tyler’s game (I think rockstar is in the same boat too). If Tyler was given more time to explain his game I bet he wins. He wasn’t like Paul who actively caused the whole jury to hate him, he was just given an inept and irrational jury. Also, even if you want to say Tyler’s jury management was subpar, which is fair, you still can’t come up with an argument that he deserved to lose to Kaycee. She had no influence on how the game played out and was merely a number for Tyler and level 6. She did nothing besides win comps and make relationships that tyler told her to make.
@@voodoomcspaghettipants4082 in an ideal world tyler does win BB20, i agree, but you can’t deny kaycee’s win and it was all at the hands of Tyler. Tyler told Bayleigh on feeds to not vote for him at the end, where he loses 1 vote, had 0 relationship with Rockstar, Fessy admired Kaycee’s comp wins for some reason so he’s set to vote for Kaycee (people love to bring up the hypothetical situation that if Haleigh has time to tell Fessy who to vote for, Tyler wins, but that clearly doesn’t happen and would never of happened) and Scottie’s vote was affected cause of the battle back, he made it clear he was gonna work with Tyler if he wins battle back, and then Tyler proceeds to evict him the following week. And at the halfway point he starts to lose grasp of Sam which we both agree on. He also sabotaged his own winning chances as explained in the video. This isn’t to say Tyler is a horrible player because he isn’t a horrible player, but you can’t expect the jury to idolize you and reward you for your gameplay, you have to form bonds and convince them to vote for you. Similar to Danielle Reyes, Danielle is the ideal winner of BB3 but you can’t deny Lisa’s game
I’m sorry I find it really funny seeing 2 Pauls right next to each other (and yes I know why)
When someone says “BB runner-up” I don’t know why I automatically think of Ginnamaire hahaha
Hahaha so do I!!! her and Nicole.
Same, I honestly think it’s because she’s one of best examples of a BB runner up game. Kind of a floater but might have a few close allies, doesn’t drive much strategy, still made some moves, but had a major flaw that made her a good person to drag to the end (in GM’s case, it was her awful social game). Plus, her final speeches were iconic
@@TheMurrmursonbottle Andy was more of a floater than GinaMarie was, because you knew where GM stood the entire time and she never switched up her loyalties to people, while Andy constantly jumped from alliance to alliance and was loyal to no one except himself
now what did porshe do to you
@425v-s that’s not her name
Porsche literally had the golden key for the 1st half of the season, it was SMART for her to lay low & not make waves. You wanted her to blow up her game out of boredom like Daniele?? Tf
not to mention she hops on the deal to be a vote for the veterans which is WHY they fought to keep her that first round. She forms a strong connection with a power couple that would win and keep her safe and always be a target in front of her (don’t know why that’s being knocked) and then stays low and forms good enough relations with Kalia and Daniele that she’s able to flip to them and then flip back to Rachel once Kalia leaves.
@@brandoncardoza exactly !! Flipping on the newbies to go w/ the vets week 1 was a really good move on her part cuz she knew it was a sinking ship
@@brandoncardoza she was always positioned perfectly so she was never a target to go home
@Certified Cunt There’s also a difference between doing nothing when you don’t really have a choice cause of the golden key or doing nothing for no reason.. It was smart asf for Porsche to lie low for the first half of the game cuz she had the golden key.. tf did you want her to do?? Blow up her game like Daniele???
Porsche picked up her game the second the golden key twist ended, come up with a different argument cause that ones irrelevant
20% of comments : Two Paul’s next to each other is hilarious 🤣
80% of comments : Why is Porsche so low
The comment below this literally said why is porsche so low 😭
Why is Porsche so low? She had a really good shot of winning without production interference and Dani should definitely not be that low.
That's debatable. While it is very likely Jordan goes home if pandora's box isn't a thing, there are two big problems.
A) Rachel still likely wins out, with kalia still going the next week, likely followed by Shelly then Adam
B) After Kalia goes, Porsche is most loyal to Rachel, likely taking her further even in the scenario that Rachel loses any of the comps she needs
Porsche actually made final 2 w/ production working against her, unlike Rachel who needed help numerous times. This ranking is weird. She only lost by 1 vote too
@@brianregan5933 it was very likely Rachel was leaving at final 6 too. Shelly & Kalia would’ve voted her out
@@brianregan5933 ur SO WRONG
@@brianregan5933 They still helped out Rachel with that VETO comp, it was the same one she won in Week 1 and without that, she cld have easily lost and gone home.
I get your reasoning for Daniele being the worst runner up but I disagree, especially cuz she really carried her father to the end w/ her comp wins
I feel like another fact that puts Daniele lower that he forgot to mention was that she loses against every single person. Also combined with America’s player I think putting her at the bottom is justified. However I could see her being put a few spots higher with some of the reasons you mentioned.
@Raheem Fielder-Bey I mean she would’ve won if Eric didn’t have to convince the jury to vote for Dick
I wonder how she does if Dick is voted out over Dustin, and America’s Plauer doesn’t force him to stay. I doubt she’s the next to go, and without Dick still antagonizing people, Daniele is a lot less hated in the house. Would she still make it to the end? It’s an interesting thought
America and Dick carried her. She should have gone home much, much sooner. If the twist had been different, Eric Stein easily dominates the season. Easily.
More like Americas Player carried both to the end. Neither even deserved to be Final 2. Anyway many would have Dick last in winners rankings, so it makes sense the person who couldn't even beat him in a Final 2 is last in runner up rankings.
PORSCHE?!
Ivette literally called Kaysar a sand n-----, argues with April 24/7, ruined her chances of getting Rachel's vote, and only got Janelle's vote as a pity. She was Maggie's goat.
Ivette would’ve lost to Janelle in the final 2 as well cuz April was gonna vote Janelle over her
@@clovesevina9763 I believe the friendship said they would have voted for a Sovereign Six member if a Friendship member hadn't taken a fellow friendship member to the end, but I'm surprised that it would have been April who voted for her since she hated Janelle. I would have figured Maggie would have thrown her the deciding vote if Ivette took Janelle.
@@clovesevina9763 Ivette wins against Janelle if Janelle takes her, but loses if she takes Janelle. I don’t think April would’ve ever voted for Janelle over Ivette if Ivette doesn’t go against the friendship, as April hated both of them, so she might as well side with her alliance
You’re 100% right saying Ivette was Maggie’s goat. Ivette was a terrible BB player. Big alliances help hide bad players (as we see with the cookout in bb23) because all they have to do is follow their leaders like the true sheep they are. Ivette deserves a bottom 3 spot
PORSCHE HAS YOU SHAKING
Okay i have NO idea how Porsche is so low. One of the most underrated players ever
Exactly
She's likely a better player than her game actually showed.
@@WypsotorNyloff this is true. Her game left a lot to be desired but she did show flashes of game potential. I feel like on a return she would do well, but her bb13 game is so flawd
Can you do a AFH rankings?
Or who you think would’ve win this prize if Canada were to have it
how do you rank them tho? because a lot of the favorite houseguests won more so because they were likeable and not because they were great players (da’vonne, cody, james, frank, etc)
@@nizzle428 maybe just his favorite from a character perspective
@@nizzle428 how likable they were on the house, the feeds/show edit they got, who they should’ve lost to (if that was the case) etc
Ez
S1: Emmet or Peter
S2: Jon (If he dosent count Neda)
S3:Godfrey
S4: Cass
S5: Kevin (If he dosent count then Ika)
S6: Jonny?
S7: Adam
S8: No Clue
S9: Chief Kief
Before watching, I’m gonna predict the Top 10 is 2-3 women and 7-8 men
Congrats, spot on!
it isn’t his fault most of the female runner-ups were shit players
PORSCHE IS THE MOST UNDERRATED RUNNER UP OF ALL TIME WTF SHE MIDDLED ALMOST PERFECTLY THE FIRST HALF OF THE SEASON & THEN DOMINATED THE END GAME W/ COMP WINS!! Show some respect!!
@Jairo Garcia excuse me? Porsche actually made an effort with Jeff, he was just extremely bitter she played a majoe role on evicting him. Also Shelly is a freak who only voted Rachel because she wanted to get back in Jeff and Jordans good Graces. Finally DR counts dont mean ANYTHING. Especially in a season where they editing because only around the returnees
@Jairo Garcia Jeff & Jordan isolated her too, they talked shit about her all season why would Porsche wanna work w/ them?? They were so blind w/ their hatred towards Porsche that they kept insisting she “did nothing” even after Porsche took both of them out. It was pathetic
@Jairo Garcia & Porsche had 2 locked votes w/ Kalia & Daniele. She got Adam’s vote & Shelly’s vote was up in the air
Surprised you didn't knock Liz down more considering Julia basically sacrificed herself for Liz. Liz was definitely leaving that week until Julia said "get rid of me".
I think she is still rated about right even considering that. She isn't great but should be over all the people she is over on this list, minus Porsche who is severely underrated.
Porsche has you pressed
honestly fr. porsche would have literally won. I think we are witnessing mental illness
Paul getting that runner up spot again I see
You should rank the 1st boots based on how much you want to see them return and how memorable they were
THIS IS SO OFFENSIVE
Lmaoooo I love Porsche too
What about Dani? How in the hell is she worse than Lane or Cowboy.
@@alexgray342 Dani had an absolutely shit social game. Luck and comp wins (some of which were thrown to her) were her only saving grace. If Evil Dick wasn't so popular with America, she goes home much sooner and never even makes an All Star Season.
Video spoilers
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"This is going to be an unpopular opinion for the worst runner up!"
*says the popular opinion*
Top 3 are Danielle Paul and Tyler the rest don’t matter
Dan > all of them. Not Dan’s fault he had a jury that would never vote for someone that already won…
Ok i respect everyone having their own opinions but Porsche is way too low, she would've won if production didn't interfere , she was a huge underdog with kalia and dani and they won comps they needed too and made moves like the double eviction on jeff
Not to mention the beginning of her game was affected by the golden key twist so it was best for her to lie low & not make waves
@@clovesevina9763 exactly like him saying she played horrible makes no sense she's safe might as well play safe make connections, we see Neda in bbcan5 be safe perjury but does the opposite of Porsche which is win comps and make moves which got her first out after her safety ended, Porsche is a good runner-up not 17.
@@zztanerzz Porsche might not be some evil strategic mastermind but she still played a great game regardless
@@zztanerzz exactly, look at Daniele & Porsche. 2 players who played the beginning of that season very differently, look how it ended up for both of them
@@clovesevina9763 there’s a difference between lying low and being clueless. Porsche was pretty much clueless. She just kinda clung to Rachel and didn’t have great bonds with a majority of the house. Ideally, if she wants to play more passively early on, she makes connections with everyone to give herself a ton of options going into the end game. Instead, she just merely existed and didn’t help herself in any way for a large portion of the game. Her lack of connections is seen in the second half of the season where she is seemingly an afterthought time and time again, and is way too loyal to Rachel when it’s against her best interest
Paul getting recognition where he deserves it. Thank you!
When he said “at least Gina-Marie was safe...” I spit out my drink.
Bro. Paul twice on there PISSES ME OFF! Paul and Tyler should’ve won
This guy: has an opinion
UA-cam comments: OMG SEXIST!!!
The guy hates women ===> casuals : stop he’s not sexist
@@thetribehasspoken3050 are you an idiot? Just bc a lot of female runner ups have played rather poorly in bbus history doesn’t mean he’s sexist. You can’t sit here and tell me that someone like Daniele holly or allison deserves to be any higher. You can make a case for Porsche being a bit higher but she shouldn’t touch top 12 either.
@@voodoomcspaghettipants4082 how the literal fuck did Porsche play “poorly” plz educate me
@@clovesevina9763 she had very little control throughout the entire game, was on the out for multiple rounds, and actively made multiple decisions against her best interest. She had very little control over her own destiny. Or you can watch the video that also explains why she didn’t play particularly well
@@voodoomcspaghettipants4082 she was never on the outs until week 7 & then she literally ended up back in the majority the next week.. she was in danger final 4 but FOUGHT to save herself. What did Lane do besides say “yes” to whatever his alliance wanted?
SHES TOO POWERFUL FOR YOUR TINY MIND TO UNDERSTAND
Porsche literally would have won the game if production never interfered in the season so I don’t see why she’s ranked so low considering you take likeliness to win the game so seriously whenever making these rankings.
@@rolandgreen7484 she only lost to Rachel by 1 vote & she single handedly evicted Jordan so there’s that
Because she sucked
@@junsong9581 lies
@@clovesevina9763 she wasn’t even the best newbie.
@@junsong9581 she was tho. Who played better than her?? Kalia?? The woman who evicted Lawon??? Or Shelly?? The woman who constantly got caught up in her own lies that she didn’t even know what the truth was??
Dan's probably number one for me. He lost because most of the rookies were jealous that the vets were paid more. But at the same time you could make a case for all the top 5 so I can't disagree that much.
Dan had garbage jury management so he shouldn't be #1. Top 5 I would agree. #1 should be someone who lost despite still having pretty good jury management, and win against most other people. Someone like Tyler for instance, or even Paul on BB18.
PORSCHE AT 17?????????? YOURE SO WRONG
This is what we call a toxic fan
@@karson779 nobody asked you
@@karson779 naw I agree with her. She can have an opinion. She's not doing anything wrong lol. Porsche played a pretty decent game where she floats through the pre jury and dominates with Kalia in that end game. She beats Adam in that final 2 but since Rachel won final hoh it didn't matter. She got 3/7 of the jury votes and was so close to getting shellys vote. However, Rachel also played well as a strong underdog who scrapped through the endgame after dominating the early game. Though by herself, Porsche played a great game deserving of a higher spot(in my opinion)
@@ethancostellostudent1698 & Porsche actually made final 2 without productions help unlike Rachel
@@ethancostellostudent1698 when she writes like 10 comments calling the dude sexist I think she’s in the wrong. It’s one thing to have a different opinion it’s another to attack someone because of their opinion
Its sad that Paul even on this list still gets second place 😂😂
XD
Enzo claims he would have booted Cody and taken Nicole. And the entire jury has said in a Enzo-Nicole F2, whichever cut Cody wins.
So is no one going to talk about how Nichole is above Dan.
He did. In depth. That’s the point of the video
@@voodoomcspaghettipants4082 pretty sure he meant within the comments
Yeah, like did she do anything in the house? Like at all
@@memeview2566rewatch bb2
Paul getting 2nd place again lmaooo
Was waiting for this one. I'm excited!!
Absolutely you're right the America's Player twist and having her dad there helped get Dani to the final two, which for the purposes of this video makes her an easy last place even if she is a good player and competitor compared to some of the other runners up. That said I get why America got into their story there are so many people that could relate to it from all sides and wanted to believe in the best possible ending.
I would love to see a 3rd place ranking!
Vanessa #1
The amazing race runner-ups rankings sound like a very intriguing video👍
When your schedule clears up you should rank the 3rd and 4th placers
He did a final juror ranking
Ivette is not a lock to win even throwing final HOH to Janelle. April and James who are the two swing votes both claimed post show they vote Janelle in that F2, which gives Janelle a 4-3 win if both are telling the truth. I do agree that was her best play though.
yeah ivette was screwed regardless
I don't know how GM is not dead last. 🤯
Predictions personal
21. GM 21. GM
20. Cowboy 20. Dani
19. Natalie 19. Natalie
18. Dani 18. Cowboy
17. Erika 17. Holly
16. Porsche 16. Erika
15. Holly 15. Porsche
14. Ivette 14. Enzo
13. Liz 13. Ivette
12. Enzo 12. Liz
11. Lane 11. Ryan
10. Paul- 18 10. Lane
9. Ryan 9. Memphis
8. Memphis 8. Allison
7. Cody 7. Paul - 18
6. Nichole 6. Nichole
5. Allison 5. Cody
4. Danielle 4. Danielle
3. Tyler 3. Dan
2. Dan 2. Paul- 19
1. Paul-19 1. Tyler
Edit: i messed up hardddddddddd
Ryan was 11 and 10 on your personal list. Which spot did you mean to have him in, out of curiosity
11, 10 is Lane
Enzo at 14 is a crime
Bruh Paul in season 19 is so overrated. He literally got 3 weeks of safety to start the season and was playing with brain dead players😂😂🤡
@@spongebobroundpants2966 ya but atleast he had a chance at winning unlike Danielle, and Nicole
Cody does not beat Frankie on BB16. No way. Frankie actually would have had a good shot in a F2 with Derrick.
The way i see it is cody gets derrick jocosta christine and donny, while frankie gets caleb and zach locked
This means that hayden nicole and victoria are swings and hayden nicole lean cody
@@sabredark5415 The only vote Cody would get in that Final 2 is Derrick's IMO, losing 8-1. Unless he betrayed Derrick, in which case Derrick bitter votes Frankie, and he loses 9-0. Christine confirmed she votes Frankie in a F2 with Derrick, so we know for sure he doesn't get her btw, when she already voted Derrick over Cody.
Erika got done kinda dirty in BB4. She had no alliances coming into the game unlike Janelle and Boogie who walked in with allies.
THIS VIDEO SHOULD BE FLAGGED FOR OFFENSIVE MATERIAL
My (2023) Rankings:
28. Derek
27. Cowboy
26. Ginamarie
25. Josh
24. Natalie
23. Ricky
22. Monte
21. Dani
20. Ryan
19. Lane
18. Holly
17. Memphis
16. Poursche
15. Liz
14. Enzo
13. Allison
12. Erika
11. Todrick
10. Ivette
9. Cody
8. Paul (BB18)
7. Nicole
6. Paul (BB19)
5. Jason
4. Tyler
3. Ross
2. Dan
1. Danielle
Paul played terribly on BB18.
@@loganbrearley8924 he wasn't too bad
i think you could argue that if dani had not gone in with dick her first season she could have been a strong player regardless. good social mind and a comp threat
I'm gonna guess that Derek f is #23 now
I would think so, but i could see an argument, he's better than dani not as a player but in terms of game
I think he put him as the worst player to make jury. Whoever stays this week Angela or Tucker will make the list.
“ with a duo mike and boogie “lol
23. Derek F
22. Ivette
21. Natalie
20. Ryan
19. GinaMarie
18. Daniele
17. Erika
16. Cowboy
15. Enzo
14. Liz
13. Nicole
12. Alison
11. Memphis
10. Holly
9. Monte
8. Cody
7. Lane
6. Porsche
5. Danielle (BB3)
4. Paul (BB18)
3. Tyler
2. Paul (BB19)
1. Dan
Big brother final juror ranking?
Would love to see a third place rankings!
Vanessa first !
Now Derek F is the worst runner up of all time that go all the way to the end by doing absolutely nothing in all his entire season!!
Did Porsche like break up with you or something?
LOL
honestly i think paul should be number 1 because he literally had a complete strangle hold of the season from beginning to end. while tyler was way too loyal to kaycee who he obviously lost to, but other then that it’s still really close, he was put on the block on week 6 during the hacker comp but i don’t he was gonna go home. but as players i think Tyler and Danielle are better than paul because if they were to play multiple times i think they would go further than paul
Except Paul did more to actively tank his chances of getting jury votes, so that's a really serious knock against his game that wasn't present in Tyler's game
@@NYChica23 Tyler made up a fake story about Scottie being his best friend in the house (which Scottie who is an idiot believed) and ended pointlessly targetting him over Haleigh when he returend to the house, despite not even liking Haleigh and Haleigh being a way bigger threat than Scottie. He made up all kinds of unneccessary lies to Sam, who clearly is mentally ill to begin with, then playfully calls her crazy during his jury answers. His did absolutely everything to burn and lose both their votes. Bayleigh too but I think Bayleigh was always voting Kaycee anyway.
@@rolandgreen7484 if I remember correctly from that season when Bayleigh was evicted her and Tyler got into a major argument where if he apologized for something he did (not sure what it was tbh) then he could have gotten Bayleigh's vote at the end
granted I think she was unlikely to vote Tyler but Haleigh switched her vote to Tyler so it was a possibility that Bayleigh could have too
YOURE SO MAD
Top 3
Paul , Tyler , & Danielle R. no question.
Dan
You excluding people that won in a different season?
Based of how good they played during their second place season (not ranking off whether or not they would get final 2 votes because that depends heavily on if it’s a bitter jury or not and not everyone can control if they are stuck with a really bitter jury like Dani Reyes) I would say
1.) Dan (BB14)
2.) Danielle Reyes (BB3)
3.) Paul Abrahamian (BB19)
4.) Tyler Crispen (BB20)
5.) Allison (BB4)
6.) Paul Abrahamian (BB18)
7.) Dani Donato (BB8)
8.) Cody Calafiore (BB16)
9.) Porsche (BB13)
10.) Nicole B (BB2)
Honorable mention goes to Lane (BB12)
The worst final 2 member of all time:
Azah or Big D 😂
Side note: my entire top 4 all played such great games and lost to a bitter jury. To me that’s not their fault (maybe you can argue it is Tyler’s and Paul’s fault but I disagree I don’t think with their play style they were going to win because of the stupid jury, I can’t fault them for that. Dani Reyes lost because of the lack of the jury house and Dan had zero shot at winning because everyone was jealous… how is that his fault. I hate bitter Jury’s they ruin it for all of us but I absolutely think it’s stupid to rank them based off whether or not they had a bitter jury that makes zero sense) Luck plays a huge part into winning BB , just because you’re unlucky doesn’t mean you were less of a great BB player
Danielle Reyes #2, LOL!!! Worst ranking of a player I have ever seen.
how can you have lane and memphis who did pretty much nothing over people who were actively doing things and playing the game hard like paul and porsche?
Daniele too
Bc lane and Memphis were in the majority for a good portion of the game and were socially protected for a long time. Using bb18 Paul as an example, he needed factors out of his control, being victors returns and comp wins, to advance in the game. That obv isn’t a reliable strategy as Paul needed luck to get to the end, whereas lane and Memphis had positioned themselves to be safe and not reliant on luck
@@voodoomcspaghettipants4082 that’s true, but memphis and lane just attached themselves to the dominant players and faced no struggle along the way. paul got unlucky with the format of the first hoh that nicole won as well as the fact that paulie and tiffany were both sibling of past players and alligned with the vets because of that. but he successfully got out of that bad position during week two and got into the majority through his relationship with paulie. he also got unlucky with the care packages that gave michele co-hoh which removed her from a potential replacement nominee as well as having to maneuver around unbreakable showmances. while he did get lucky with victor returning, he wouldn’t of done things like getting rid of da’vonne, zakiyah, and paulie if victor wasn’t there
@@nizzle428 him being unlucky doesn’t really impact his overall game. Ideally, his social position should allow this factors to not ruin his game. You have to give him credit for climbing out of the bottom multiple times but since he had to survive he was never able to control what was going on for a long enough period to set himself up in ideal scenarios. If you want to make the argument that his luck/bad luck offset, he still didn’t play a great game, as he was on the bottom a lot of the game and made some notable poor decisions
this guy gives credit to people that just sit and do nothing and are completely useless, impotent players, as long as they’re being strung along in a big alliance. he calls that agency. what he doesn’t realize is that those players as individuals don’t have agency, their alliances do due to the actions of other people, and giving them credit for that is confusing. he’d probably rate Will from Survivor 30 high in a 3rd place ranking even though he was an awful player, just because he was in the majority for most of the game. he has a very warped perception of a “good game” of big brother.
Its Jerry not Gary
Why do you hate women
Ikr
Why do you hate opinions?
@@blazegod8490 sexist opinions
@@clovesevina9763 nope, just normal opinions, be bitter all you want but he is clearly not sexist
@@clovesevina9763 they can't be sexist if girl runners-up play poorly
I agree on about 80 percent of this list
I’d put Paul from season 18 a bit higher
agreed. i don’t know how you can have people like lane and memphis who did practically nothing over paul who was playing super hard, overcoming bad luck, and just doing things within the game to better his chances of winning
Bayleigh queen caused Tyler to lose
The top 5 should never change on anyone’s list … SOLID top 5
I’m sorry but Dan is above Nicole
I'm pretty sure Nicole's last name is Schaffrich and her middle name is Nilson
I really enjoyed your ranking.
I would love if you can rank the Big Brother Canada winners, runners up, players to never win, etc, I feel like Big Brother Canada is not talked about enough
he already did winners, runner ups, and top ten players. he prolly has a playlist with all those vids
@@nizzle428 Oh I see now thank you so much!
I disagree completely with Dani being the bottom. Yes, she had a lot of luck... but can you really blame someone and make them the worst runner up because of stuff that was out of their control? Dani at least actively played the game and played it fairly well. You say she went home if Dick wasn’t her father and didn’t veto her... but if Dick wasn’t her father, A. The season is so different it’s not even worth comparing and B. She probably doesn’t even go on the block regardless if she’s not perceived as being part of an unbreakable duo
Well we know from her other 2 seasons it is super unlikely she makes F2 or anywhere near it, without being on a season with her father on it so...And she was a huge jury goat, she even lost to her dad who everyone hated, so based on that I don't think she beats a single person in the house other than maybe Jen.
Who was worse though? Maybe Gina Marie. Maybe Cowboy. That is about it. I guess you could argue Ryan too, but there are hardly any runner ups that aren't clearly over her.
paul’s pronouns are they/them btw
amazing vid!!!! You upload in the morning (for me) when nobody else uploads!
I think BB4 is underrated
I politely disagree....Dani deserves WAYYY better than last
She is definitely in the bottom 5 and probably in the bottom 3. Last is not that far off for her.
I knew Paul from BB19 was going to be top 2. Are they my least favorite player and do I think they were super overrated, yes. But that season had a lot of non-players that basically allowed them to get final 2.
Paul and who overrated?
@@gqprince2 paul is nonbinary so Ree_michele said they
@@karson779 lol I get it now
13:40 dude imagine mike taking himself to the final 2 XD
Why in the hell would you put Dani lower than GM, Cowboy, Lane, and Memphis? Dani literally won when she needed to. This is ridiculous!
Did you not listen to ANYTHING he said about his reasoning it's because Dick & Danielle should NOT have been the final 2 they go home before the end game if it wasn't for the Americas Player twist & the fact that Dick was super popular & gained a lot of sympathy from the audience for being a father trying to repair his relationship w/ his daughter so w/o that massive amount of luck that they had no control over they go home before the end game where they won out
@@mindovermatterbecomingyour1561 oh shut up, even with that twist, they deserve to be there over cowboy, gm, Lane, and Memphis. If we are taking twists into account then Paul shouldn’t be high up either. He got 3 weeks of safety, had the ability to save eight people so it made building alliances a lot easier.
@@alexgray342 except Paul absolutely DOMINATED bb19 & was never gonna go home even w/o the pendant of protection so they earned their ranking
If dani doesnt have americas player she loses like that really bad for a runner up ranking
Dani is way worse than Lane or Memphis, it isn't even close. Just as Dick is a rigged winner, Danielle is a rigged runner up. Neither make it anywhere near the end without Americas Player, and if you deny this you are just dumb. People are willing to admit this for Dick, but for Danielle as well for some reason, which is weird. And on top of that she was such a goat she loses to every other person in the house in a Final 2, even her super hated father, or Jen. GM and Cowboy I could see a case maybe, but Cowboy was 1 vote from winning Big Brother, and didn't need riggage to make the end, and GM made the end easily with no riggage, so I would probably rate both over her too.
This list is terrible. Holly at 12??? She did nothing but be a number for michie. Plus ryan that low????
Yeah Holly really didn't deserve any votes, Jessica refused to vote for a man if there was a woman in the final 2, Kat and Holly literally knew each other for years before this, and Nicole was just bitter I guess? Also Holly loses any final 2 scenario in that final 6.
Holly played SO well during the first half of BB21. She was easily one of the best players in the house for such a long stretch. Her big problem is that she just stops playing in the second half. Also a ton of the runner ups really sucked, so her being up there isn't that surprising to me
@@Chimyex17 nicole just liked holly
Holly wasn’t that bad. She was doing great for a good half of the game. Later she started drawing dead and basically relied on Jackson to pull her to the end.
Ryan was a terrible player. He was completely unaware of the house dynamics the entire season and got saved by a twist, not to mention all the glaring mistakes he made. His jury answers were also horrible.
Facts this list is shit. The fact that he put Dan at 5 is absolutely ridiculous. He is guaranteed top 2 if not 1
1.Anthony bbcan7
2. Danielle Reyes
3. Kaela Grant
4. Tyler
5. Paul bb19
6. Dan bb14
7. Paul bb18
8. Alison Irwin
9. Cody
10. Nicole S.
11. Enzo
12. Godfrey
13. Natalie
14. Memphis
15. Liz
16. Holly
17. Porsche
18. Erika
19. Lane
20. Dani
21. Kelsey
22. Gary
23. Ivette
24. Sabrina
25. Karen
26. Ginamarie
27. Cowboy
28. Ryan
Paul did not play well in 18
@@birks2180 agreed. Nicole completely outplayed them
Tyler didn’t allow Angela to go home, Kaycee won HOH and voted her out. If Tyler had won, he may have taken Angela
That’s right put some respect on bb2 Nicole
We will soon have Big D in the last place, once this list is revisited LOL
Alison definitely won 0 jury votes regardless of the person shes against, but she still played the best game that season, not even close
@@rolandgreen7484 Jun played a much more passive game, Alison was much more active, I just found her game more impressive, especially with all the shit she did with Nathan. Jun was good but Alison was much more in control of her game. Just kinda how I felt, both were great for sure
@@glts8146 Alison was only better at comps. Socially and even strategically Jun was better.
Damn Dani at the bottom discredits this whole video for me... but I’m still gonna watch lol
@@rolandgreen7484 thank you for realizing that
Paul at 11 is insane
Hes at 2 too
the player quality disparity once the top 5 comes on... though at that point it's basically players who should've won. I remain unconvinced that Lane deserves top 10. To me he's no better than Michael who somehow underservingly gets a lot of votes. We agree that Porche genereally is a bit overrated (season 13 didn't really have very strong players) and Enzo is generally underrated. Ginamarie will always be the bottom for me and I still don't think Liz realizes she made it to the finale of Big Brother.
Natalie >>>>>> Ivette. Period.
i would put cody paul and alison lower but good list, also i loveeee alison but she was never winning
Paul’s bb18 or 19 game?
@@kingklub 18
OMG IM SO EARLY
i feel like the meranian review forgets that Gerry from BB3 is pronounced Jerry
I don’t think even if the old version of deliberating Tyler would win he lied unnecessarily the way he treated Bailey was horrible he told her he didn’t need her vote he didn’t want her vote he’d win without it and he definitely needed her vote Sam told him to be honest with her and she told him if he crossed her she would not forgive him he continued to lie to her and then basically called her crazy during the jury questioning which then cost him her vote
I think you harp on Daniele a ton for a reason I don't necessarily agree with, the idea that her game was apparently greatly improved by luck wasn't anything she had control over by any means. She also was a dominant competitor and ultimately was able to help win those clutch challenges in the tail end of the game. I don't think things outside of these runner-ups control should be really be a knock against them as....what could they do about it
Many regard Dick as worst winner, so I don't see why Danielle as worst runner up is such a surprise. They BOTH benefited from Americas Player and all the riggage. On top of that Danielle was so hated, she likely doesn't have a winning Final 2 out of the whole jury phase, as evidenced that she lost to her hated father, who himself loses to nearly everyone but Danielle. Heck both would have lost to Zach of all people. Danielle's only chance in a F2 is vs Jen. Lastly even with all the riggage, and being this huge jury goat, Danielle needed all her comp wins, and some by her father too, on top of the riggage that benefited Dick mainly, but Danielle by assocation, to even make F2.
I can think of a ton of reasons to rank Dani last. One of the ways to rank those who lose a jury vote is what were their chances to win a jury vote and thus win the game. Danielle wins a jury vote less often than almost every other runner up, so that is a negative. Another is how much control they had in the game. She isn't great there either, Eric and her father and 1 or 2 others were the ones with the control, not her. There are some runner ups worst here probably, but still not great. Another is how secure their position in the game was and how well set up they were to reach the end. She isn't good here either, there are many ways Danielle does not reach the end, even outside the riggage of the season. Last is the fact that there was riggage this season, which benefited both her and her dad, the winner of the season.
Not sure if I would rank her last, but no way would I have her any higher than 17th of 21.
You should do a video on Pirate Master! It’s having a resurgence recently
Question: who do you thinks game in bb North America (Canada/america) translates well over to the big brother 1 game (England/Australia)
Natalie is an abysmal player and I think she should be ranked much lower, but I will say that she should get a lot more credit than she does for the Russell/Jeff votes, as she’s the actual one who comes up with the idea to lie to Jeff, and Kevin just helped execute it. Kevin ran her game in all other aspects though
@@rolandgreen7484 Definitely, Kevin had a much better relationship with Jeff at the time as Natalie is just a naturally antagonistic person and player (or at least she was at her young age). She never wins a season of Big Brother, but she was a competent strategist
This isn't a ranking of the runners-up as players. It's the runner-up's game that season
@@karson779 I understand that that’s a distinction this channel makes, I just think it’s a really stupid distinction. I don’t understand how you can judge a player of the game by anything more than the game(s) they’ve played.
I want to see a top 16 runner up big brother season
You should rank all of the Survivor reunion shows ;)
paul uses they/them pronouns btw
oh they do? i didn’t know. thank you for telling me, i was about to make a comment about paul so this is helpful
@@cailyndonnelly5768 mhm! i’m not sure how paul identifies within the gender binary but they use they/them pronouns i’m pretty sure
I was wondering where you’d put Derek F (23) but I’m gonna assume he’d be last
I think he would be below or above Ryan tbh
Sensing a theme with the bottom half
Lack of control and impact on the game for most rounds? Yea I sense that theme too. That’s what makes players good and not good