As someone in the military, training environments often leave me cut off from the world, unable to connect with friends and family for weeks at a time. But being able to use satellite texting is an absolute game changer. While it’s not viable for operational use due to safety and security concerns, it’s fantastic for downtime during training. This is one of the many reasons I’m sticking with iOS for the foreseeable future.
Actually, every phone and service provider company are in the process of doing this. Some are partnering with Elon Musk's star link satellites and others are using some other companies. It's great and will save lives. Eventually WIFI will be free all over the world when musk is done covering the whole planet. it's great for social, political and economic reasons for the whole world. Thanks for your service, John.
Just remember to check with your superiors first. Obviously armies around the World have different rules for what Soldiers are allowed to do at ease, but I'm pretty sure this is a feature the British Army won't be permitting personal use of until HQ have assessed this as definitely being operationally compatible. 📜🪖👍 For personal ex-ops communications I can see it being absolutely revolutionary in theory, but I do fear it may prove non-permissible even at ease. There's a lot of security questions over things like that, after all... ⚠
@@RaffaelPallus No, this is a gamechanger. Literally, so many more people will have access to this tech when otherwise they would not have. This can genuinely save lives.
@@niceEli American or not, you've missed the point. Starlink is laying the groundwork, the first to do such things with communication in space with hoards of satellites, and Tmobile was the first to partner with Starlink to provide such services, so Apple isn't pioneering anything new here fella. 🤡
Capitalism rewards the most aggressively greedy people with safety and comfort while sh*tting on the average person. Hopefully humanity will evolve beyond it some day. I wish congress would enforce free satellite connectivity for emergencies in all new cell phones, but most elected politicians at that level are paid for by greedy entities who would prefer to rig laws in their favor rather than helping humanity.
Emergency SOS should *always* be free-of-charge, that's for certain. But the cost of running a satellite network is extraordinary in nature, so charging for personal chats and DMs over Satellite iMessage? I'm not going to hold anything against Apple for doing that. 👍
@@swirl44 Yes but even unactivated phones are required to use 911 for no charge. So emergency services should always be free. Social and non-emergency messages obviously should be charged for.
This feature is the primary reason why I may upgrade to the iPhone 16 Pro. I am frequently in the backcountry and currently use a Garmin InReach for communication. The Garmin requires a monthly subscription. I really need for Apple to clarify when this feature will no longer be free and what it will cost so that I can determine if it really is a viable Garmin replacement.
@@FNJ720Apple will likely start charging in September as the iPhone 14s were marketed with 24 months of free satellite SOS. That will be 24 months ago this September, so the first device with this capability could be required to pay for it.
@@FNJ720 _Charging_ might be the operative word, here. Sending radio signals to satellites 800 miles above ones head is *not* going to be kind to _any_ phone battery, let alone the battery in a smartphone... 🔋📉😇
@@b2bgood870 I _think_ the idea is that it should give the same feel as normal messaging over iMessage, but there will be some key differences. As the messages have to be compressed and transmissions as short as possible (The primary concern here is keeping data length minimal, and satellite uses MUCH more battery than mobile networks) they'll tend to be batched, so you'll get all pending messages sent to your phone all at once when you connect to the satellite, and any messages you've queued for sending will go up at the same time. ↔ One key limitation to understand is that iMessage *won't* transmit or download attachments, videos or voice notes. The data transfer burden that would incur is extraordinary, and the intent of iMessage over Sat is to maintain simple human connections over SMS-like messages, *not* to deliver a full multimedia experience. 😇
Thank you for giving us a more detailed overview on how to use it. I think it is a great extra, that can really come handy. Earlier this year, 18 months after I bought the Apple Watch Ultra, I found myself on the floor after a hard fall and I couldn’t move. The watch came to my rescue, contacting the Police and they in turn called Paramedics. I was so grateful. So I am sure this satellite access will not only help but save people’s lives. It’s one of the new features that encourages me to update to the new iPhone next September. 🥰
I'm seeing it everywhere, just in the replies to other comments as all the hateful main comments aren't getting liked and get pushed to the bottom, while replies are chronological and android sheep are always first to respond.
What you might find is that the phone refuses to connect if it sees the ships on board wifi/mobile service. I know on a recent one, my iPhone never switched to satellite for help, although I have seen it elsewhere. Still, will be cool!
@@PoleTooke it could still see the ships "mobile" network - they tend to have a satellite based mobile network which is why folks can run up massive data bills. I think they switch it off ~12 miles from shore, but then often you'll just pick up the local in country network.
You can have a personal locator beacon for free for no monthly fee and the battery last five years and has a full 5 W of power so you can get out of a deep canyon with a signal and it works anywhere anywhere in the world and it works on three different satellite constellations I could say another 10 paragraphs on it, but that’s what you really want in an emergency
Yep, inReach is done. That is why Garmin has made about zero improvement to the inReach system since they bought it from DeLorme. They knew this was coming, they paid mostly for the subscription list.
I have been an Android user my entire life up until the iPhone 14. I got that and completely moved into the Apple ecosystem for the privacy. This would have made me jump ship on its own. What a fantastic feature. Hope it stays free.
Do you need to initiate a chat in order to receive messages from that person? Or will you just receive messages - even from strangers - as you normally would with cell tower service?
I think it’s super cool and I love the new satellite animation. I have a feeling sooner or later Apple is going to tie this into some sort of subscription package requirement like Apple One. Emergency SOS on the other hand pretty much will have to remain subscription free since God forbid someone dies because they didn’t have a required subscription. It’d be a PR nightmare.
@@macbugde i know it isn’t elons actual starlink but i mean its a stepping stone to that kind of functionality but for free and already on your phone. The only downsides being 1) doesn’t work indoors and 2) you need to wait for a satellite. Im just spitballin here but it was for emergencies only when it first launched and now it does imessage and emojis. I dont think its too far fetched to think it might get full internet support down the line many years in the future
Crazy that all (newer) iPhones are about to have this feature! Has Samsung even rolled out emergency satellite connectivity yet? I thought they were going to.
Any modern Samsung phone will be able to do more soon. Starlink has already partnered with TMobile and Optus (aus) to provide satelite link to any modern phone. This is just based on 4.5G LTE Advance technology. The Starlink version is far more capable than GlobalStar Apple due to the higher bandwidth. They will be providing voice calls in 2025. This just requires the phone makers to have the appropriate software.
Do you need a SIM card to use this? Thinking of young family members who have phones but no line, just use it on wifi. This feature could mean they can send a message from the school bus without a SIM card?
Only your emergency contacts and apple family members can SMS you first, I had to watch it twice to understand what he was saying. They did this because they dont want people to congest the satellite network by getting spammed with promotional SMSes in the desert. iMessage does not have that limitation I believe.
Isn't handheld GPS use normally prohibited on (commercial) aircraft? I know the aircraft will have its own, but the antennas for those will be located in places that won't cause issues with other equipment. 😇 And you just made me realise: Airlines might have to apply a _No Satellite Communication Service_ rule in the cabin if attempted satellite communications could cause issues with aircraft equipment. Transmission power for 800 miles will punch through most FCC conformant shielding... ⚡
@@dieseldragon6756 WTF NO. The most popular GPS tool for aviation is the cockpit IPAD. Even commercial airline pilots use them for their Electronic Flight Bag and weather maps. It still wierds me out the industry has made the common iPad become the FAA approved standard.
@@dieseldragon6756 "No Satellite Communication Service rule in the cabin if attempted satellite communications could cause issues with aircraft equipment." That's only for High powered TRANSMISSION satellite links. Something like a Cell Phone LEO Satellite link is literally just based on 4.5G LTE Advance technology. Which obviously has been cleared by FCC and fine with airliner use. General Aviation pilots already RELY on 4G LTE for communications. FYI GPS Devices have NO TX TRANSMISSION capability. It is a one way RX RECIEVE only device thus it can not cause any EMR interferance. Nothing you have said has any technical accuracy.
@@dieseldragon6756 Nope a 4.5G LTE Advance CELL PHONE linking to a LEO satellite can not punch through most properly designed shielding. It's just an absurdly weak transmission strength that can easily blocked. Note a 3500mah battery has to last many hours transmitting. Your assertions are wrong.
@@dieseldragon6756 Your entire comment is erroneous nonsense. 1. GPS Device is RX RECIEVE only. It has no ability transmit to a satellite thus not possible to cause interference. 2. The most popular GPS Device for COMMERCIAL AIRLINE pilots the Cockpit IPAD. FAA tested them out in 2011 and seems like industry has adopted the common iPAD as the industry standard for Electronic Flight Book. Obviously the GPS antenna for an iPAD is internal in the tablet thus the cockpit. 3. LEO Satelite to Cell Phones link is just based on 4.5G LTE Advance radio technology. This is obviously a very weak transmission strength that has been regulated by the FCC. 4. Any properly designed shielding will easily block a 4.5G LTE Advance CELL PHONE as the signal strength is soo weak. A 3500mah cell phone battery has to last for many hours doing many tasks ontop of transmitting data. 5. "No Satellite Communication Service rule in the cabin if attempted satellite communications" only applies to high powered dedicated satellite uplink device which typically need a dish like antenna. Obviously that is not possible to use on all in one handheld device. Your entire comment has zero technical accuracy.
Google confirmed that Android 15 this fall will have satellite connectivity which will work with SMS, MMS, and RCS, so Apple needs to get to work on the RCS part.
I cannot wait to use this feature. As a pilot I spend a lot of my life in the sky. I currently use a garmin inreach to message from the plane but this is next level!
They do all over the comments 😂 But don’t realize it’s just typical “empty promises” on Android. Just like every messenger Google ever created and then abandoned 😂
The smartest thing that Google could have ever done was keep Hangouts and add RCS to it. Alternatively, they could have added it to the main Messages app as an alternative, but unfortunately, that never happened.
Wait, that was kind of unclear, can someone message you if you are out of service, or do you have to msg them when out of service first? Can u open imsg with an satellite connection and it will catch up on imsgs?
As a beta tester I have used this several times at the Fire Department when I had lost phone and radio contact. In a mountainous area, but I was able to send a text to someone that was at the station on Wi-Fi and they were able to relay my message to dispatch.
This appears to use iMessage. So both ends would need an iPhone 14 or newer and have their phone pointed at the satellite to be sure to receive the text. In addition to that, this feature uses Globalstar geostationnary satellites, which don't work at all in valleys or if a mountain is obstructing the signal.
I wonder a lot of things…what satellite is this? how is it paid for? what technology in the phone connects to the satellite? could you use satellite exclusively instead of having an Internet connection? can other cell phone makers offer this service also?
I'm curious was to whether Find My would work if a fried or family initiated it. I know they can't initiate a message unless they are in a family group or on the emergency list. does this hold true for Find My as well or is it a one shot deal where the sender just uploads a current position?
I have a satellite phone for emergencies. But every once in a while I test it. It's pretty expensive for just a just in case thing. Pay per minute and pay per text.
Can you daisychain nearby phones such as search and rescue or fire protection/prevention and just have a 15 sec ping and have an iPad see the dots as a dashboard? Based on my experience, can you go up to 128 phones for the first generation as multiple teams along a brush fire and the supervisor can relay to aerial or following support how close to contact or how close to the rescue person?
Bit of a reality check needed: Satellite communication is _really_ expensive (Both in terms of money, and power required for transmission) which is why this will only carry (Heavily compressed) text messages and emoji, so the age of sending photos to the iCloud (Or should that be _iCosmos?_ ) over satellite is still a fair way away. *But:* The one time I wanted to send bulk data from an off-grid location, I used SD cards and a carrier pigeon. 128GB of data carried 200 miles in under six hours, and all for higher speed and lower cost than sending the same over the mobile networks of the day. 🐦💾💨👍
Bit of a reality check needed: Satellite communication is _really_ expensive (Both in terms of money, and power required for transmission) which is why this will only carry (Heavily compressed) text messages and emoji, so the age of sending photos to the iCloud (Or should that be _iCosmos?_ ) over satellite is still a fair way away. *But:* The one time I wanted to send bulk data from an off-grid location, I used SD cards and a carrier pigeon. 128GB of data carried 200 miles in under six hours, and all for higher speed and lower cost than sending the same over the mobile networks of the day. 🐦💾💨👍 Also, YT: My voice, my comment, my right to freedom of speech. As always, any unauthorised deletion/dropping/removal of my replies and comments is *strictly* prohibited. 🧑⚖
@2:07 interesting how laggy the app is as he closes it off of the screen there. Usually they move much more smoothly. Maybe it is just because the app is still in beta. Clever stuff either way.
Probably not unless you hold the phone near a window. Even normal GPS had an issue locking on on my iPhone 15 Pro, even though I was in a Window seat, holding the phone with view of the sky
The only flaw I’ve noticed while using this over the last couple of days is that when you re-enter an area with cellular connectivity, the iPhone won’t automatically gain that signal back. I’ve had to toggle airplane mode on and back off to get that connectivity back.
does the phone number contacted via satellite have to already be in your friends and family contacts or can it be added when you are out in the sticks without cell service.
This is incredible! Think of how many lives could be saved with this feature, or even just people that need help when there’s no signal
It works only in certain areas within USA that too weather has to be clear. Feature is good for advertising.
Yeah, like the people in Gaza. So cool!
@@raduarmadamusic Maybe even the hostages!
just wait until you hear what ASTS can do in this space...broadband straight to any unmodified phone instead of texting only to iphones...
@@manoharmeka999It has already saved multiple lives. Lmao quit being a hater.
i hope horror/thriller movies would change their plot because of this, no more no signal bulls**t on their plot unless they are using Android phone
ermm..actually android already had it..😂😂
@@kubotite9168where? even Google said that satmes is still in development for Android 15. u trippin bro
@@kubotite9168no. not even Google confirmed they had it. it’s still rumored for Android 15 even until now.
@@kubotite9168no they didn’t lol
@@kubotite9168 no, “Snapdragon Satellite” was released after Apple released Emergency SOS satellite.
As someone in the military, training environments often leave me cut off from the world, unable to connect with friends and family for weeks at a time. But being able to use satellite texting is an absolute game changer. While it’s not viable for operational use due to safety and security concerns, it’s fantastic for downtime during training. This is one of the many reasons I’m sticking with iOS for the foreseeable future.
Actually, every phone and service provider company are in the process of doing this. Some are partnering with Elon Musk's star link satellites and others are using some other companies. It's great and will save lives. Eventually WIFI will be free all over the world when musk is done covering the whole planet. it's great for social, political and economic reasons for the whole world. Thanks for your service, John.
Same, I'm going into the Navy so I hope satellite coverage over ocean is good.
Just remember to check with your superiors first. Obviously armies around the World have different rules for what Soldiers are allowed to do at ease, but I'm pretty sure this is a feature the British Army won't be permitting personal use of until HQ have assessed this as definitely being operationally compatible. 📜🪖👍
For personal ex-ops communications I can see it being absolutely revolutionary in theory, but I do fear it may prove non-permissible even at ease. There's a lot of security questions over things like that, after all... ⚠
@@Expressmusic457 probably you got nothing really blocking you
Will not have satellite phone if ur in that kind of work???
This is the sort of things that can genuinely save lives. Kudos to Apple and now the focus will be on Samsung and Google to do the same.
The technology so old......damn copy paste tech
@@RaffaelPallus No, this is a gamechanger. Literally, so many more people will have access to this tech when otherwise they would not have. This can genuinely save lives.
Ofcourse but the tech itself is very old@@AshTag
@@AshTagPity apple isn't keen to save lives of kids who are working in Chinese sweatshops where apple products are manufactured.
The tech is old but an antenna small enough to fit in the architecture of an iPhone is not
All characters in teen horror films will use Android now 😂
Good one 😂
pretty sure android phones like samsung and google would also launch it in november with Android 15
Tmobile had this feature first with Starlink Satellites. Apple always trying to act like they invented everything LOL
I’ll stick with my Inmarsat sat phone. Global star is the worst sat constellation up there
@@supertalaria When did they ever state that they invented this?
This is great feature -- from an emergency perspective even better.
This is my favorite feature of iOS 18. Really amazing
You also need a newer iPhone.
@@Sashazur thats because the newer iPhones have proprietary hardware to get it to work, you cant just do it with an older phone
Dang gnna have to upgrade my iPhone 11
For those of us who fish offshore, this allows us to communicate and share intel on the water. Super excited for this feature!
Arguably iOS 18's best feature
Yes after call recording
AI!!!
That’s cool! Apple is really laying the groundwork.
well starlink laid the groundwork and tmobile announced a partnership with starlink, prob a year ago, so yea
@@ChrisWehadababyitsaboynot everyone is American like you
@@niceEli American or not, you've missed the point. Starlink is laying the groundwork, the first to do such things with communication in space with hoards of satellites, and Tmobile was the first to partner with Starlink to provide such services, so Apple isn't pioneering anything new here fella. 🤡
@@ChrisWehadababyitsaboyhas nothing to do with this. Star link is not used and won’t work with this.
@@ChrisWehadababyitsaboylol starlink 😂
im gonna be honest, something lifesaving like this should NEVER be monetized and should be as widely available as possible.
I would agree that emergency messages should be free but just social messages perhaps not.
Exactly. Even If I had to pay $5 or $10 a month for this feature it's certainly worth it.
Capitalism rewards the most aggressively greedy people with safety and comfort while sh*tting on the average person. Hopefully humanity will evolve beyond it some day.
I wish congress would enforce free satellite connectivity for emergencies in all new cell phones, but most elected politicians at that level are paid for by greedy entities who would prefer to rig laws in their favor rather than helping humanity.
Emergency SOS should *always* be free-of-charge, that's for certain. But the cost of running a satellite network is extraordinary in nature, so charging for personal chats and DMs over Satellite iMessage? I'm not going to hold anything against Apple for doing that. 👍
@@swirl44 Yes but even unactivated phones are required to use 911 for no charge. So emergency services should always be free. Social and non-emergency messages obviously should be charged for.
since my family goes camping and there are no cell phone signal at New Mexico, so this will really help us a lot.
This feature is the primary reason why I may upgrade to the iPhone 16 Pro. I am frequently in the backcountry and currently use a Garmin InReach for communication. The Garmin requires a monthly subscription. I really need for Apple to clarify when this feature will no longer be free and what it will cost so that I can determine if it really is a viable Garmin replacement.
Redundancy is not a bad idea. But for those of us that don’t have a garmin this is better nothing
@@Jay151 Lifeproof case.
@@Jay151when you go hiking, just put on a bigger more durable case my guy!
@@RootSuitManI commented before i saw your comment. This is what I was saying!
its 2 years free they said.
There is no downside to this. This is simply excellent.
It’s is if they start charging for it.
@@FNJ720Apple will likely start charging in September as the iPhone 14s were marketed with 24 months of free satellite SOS. That will be 24 months ago this September, so the first device with this capability could be required to pay for it.
@@FNJ720 _Charging_ might be the operative word, here. Sending radio signals to satellites 800 miles above ones head is *not* going to be kind to _any_ phone battery, let alone the battery in a smartphone... 🔋📉😇
I wonder how many messages can u send with it
@@b2bgood870 I _think_ the idea is that it should give the same feel as normal messaging over iMessage, but there will be some key differences. As the messages have to be compressed and transmissions as short as possible (The primary concern here is keeping data length minimal, and satellite uses MUCH more battery than mobile networks) they'll tend to be batched, so you'll get all pending messages sent to your phone all at once when you connect to the satellite, and any messages you've queued for sending will go up at the same time. ↔
One key limitation to understand is that iMessage *won't* transmit or download attachments, videos or voice notes. The data transfer burden that would incur is extraordinary, and the intent of iMessage over Sat is to maintain simple human connections over SMS-like messages, *not* to deliver a full multimedia experience. 😇
can two people message when BOTH are under only satellite coverage area?
Thank you for giving us a more detailed overview on how to use it. I think it is a great extra, that can really come handy. Earlier this year, 18 months after I bought the Apple Watch Ultra, I found myself on the floor after a hard fall and I couldn’t move. The watch came to my rescue, contacting the Police and they in turn called Paramedics. I was so grateful. So I am sure this satellite access will not only help but save people’s lives. It’s one of the new features that encourages me to update to the new iPhone next September. 🥰
Man, i scrolled down to comments to find all the hate comments and I'm not seeing it. Where are the "android have had this since 2010 folks?"
Maybe android folks don’t get lost in the woods like rtrds 😂😂😂
@@zelair1301 There it is...the hate.
i have one. 2:06 that is 120hz right there 🤣
I'm seeing it everywhere, just in the replies to other comments as all the hateful main comments aren't getting liked and get pushed to the bottom, while replies are chronological and android sheep are always first to respond.
@@alexsfetcu946that's called being a developer beta, dumb dumb. Not publicly released software. Grasping for straws much?
I can now text my family while on a cruise without having to buy a package!
Im also thinking about it
Love reading about these unique use cases. I knew it was a winner the moment they mentioned it in the keynote.
What you might find is that the phone refuses to connect if it sees the ships on board wifi/mobile service. I know on a recent one, my iPhone never switched to satellite for help, although I have seen it elsewhere. Still, will be cool!
@@DigitalDiabloUKWhat happens if you just turn off the wifi and Bluetooth on the phone? Does it see it then?
@@PoleTooke it could still see the ships "mobile" network - they tend to have a satellite based mobile network which is why folks can run up massive data bills. I think they switch it off ~12 miles from shore, but then often you'll just pick up the local in country network.
This guys hand shaking while typing on his phone, same as mine would if someone was interviewing me ❤
Being able to get weather updates over satellite would be an awesome next step. For when hiking or backpacking.
Wow, I’ve paid $30/mo for a garmin inreach for years. This might make me cancel that
wait until you hear about ASTS broadband to any unmodified phone not just iphone
You can have a personal locator beacon for free for no monthly fee and the battery last five years and has a full 5 W of power so you can get out of a deep canyon with a signal and it works anywhere anywhere in the world and it works on three different satellite constellations I could say another 10 paragraphs on it, but that’s what you really want in an emergency
Yep, inReach is done. That is why Garmin has made about zero improvement to the inReach system since they bought it from DeLorme. They knew this was coming, they paid mostly for the subscription list.
Thinking the same! All it needs would be weather app, but it would be easy enough to use a sms/imessage service to get the necessary infos.
@@joeglennaz link
I have been an Android user my entire life up until the iPhone 14. I got that and completely moved into the Apple ecosystem for the privacy. This would have made me jump ship on its own. What a fantastic feature. Hope it stays free.
Is it work only in U.S. geographically, or all around the globe just with U.S. apple id?
Okay, I gotta update as soon as this is available, especially for when we are in the national parks. This is really COOL!
yes!! for real!! my family and i go to national parks all the time!
2:34 ha ha this would be me, raising my hand as high as I could to get a 'better signal' lol
Do you need to initiate a chat in order to receive messages from that person? Or will you just receive messages - even from strangers - as you normally would with cell tower service?
I think it’s super cool and I love the new satellite animation. I have a feeling sooner or later Apple is going to tie this into some sort of subscription package requirement like Apple One. Emergency SOS on the other hand pretty much will have to remain subscription free since God forbid someone dies because they didn’t have a required subscription. It’d be a PR nightmare.
Will messaging via satellite be available for the iPhone SE 2022?
Does this only work in the US, or other places too?
as it seems to not use geostationary satellites, it should be available worldwide. Not sure if it will only work with US Iphones or not,
1. Does this cater to iphone users all over parts of the world? or US only?
2. How much is the battery consumption for this?
Free for now? How much is the feature later?
doesn't matter it's almost defunct technology already with ASTS broadband to any unmodified phone coming starting up next year
When do you think that the ios 18 will be available for the everyday Apple iPhone user.
building starlink into iphone is wild!
Its not using starlink, its using globalstar. They burned alot of bridges with Musk recently. Their loss.
Ironically this is powered by globalstar
Yeah this isn’t starlink.
Not starlink 😂
@@macbugde i know it isn’t elons actual starlink but i mean its a stepping stone to that kind of functionality but for free and already on your phone. The only downsides being 1) doesn’t work indoors and 2) you need to wait for a satellite.
Im just spitballin here but it was for emergencies only when it first launched and now it does imessage and emojis. I dont think its too far fetched to think it might get full internet support down the line many years in the future
If I’m out fishing in the middle of the ocean. Would I receive a iMessage with out turning on the satellite??
Crazy that all (newer) iPhones are about to have this feature!
Has Samsung even rolled out emergency satellite connectivity yet? I thought they were going to.
At some point, they have to give people a reason to upgrade. You’re lucky they are still supplying 7 year old phone new software updates!
Any modern Samsung phone will be able to do more soon. Starlink has already partnered with TMobile and Optus (aus) to provide satelite link to any modern phone. This is just based on 4.5G LTE Advance technology. The Starlink version is far more capable than GlobalStar Apple due to the higher bandwidth. They will be providing voice calls in 2025. This just requires the phone makers to have the appropriate software.
How do you get started if u the sender has service but the receiving phone doesn’t?
I love this guy's excitement and how proud he is of his team and that feature. Very cool. I wish I cared about my stupid job.
Like rn I do not have a carrier, would this still work for me? I kinda assume I’d still need a carrier but I have no idea
How sure are you that it is FREE (at least for now)? If so, how much? I am interested because I cruise monthly.
Do you need a SIM card to use this? Thinking of young family members who have phones but no line, just use it on wifi. This feature could mean they can send a message from the school bus without a SIM card?
You must have a phone plan with data for this work. You can’t just have free satellite texting without any service.
Good question with reciving messages. He Wasn’t as clear as I prefer, definitely has limits I'd like to know more
Only your emergency contacts and apple family members can SMS you first, I had to watch it twice to understand what he was saying. They did this because they dont want people to congest the satellite network by getting spammed with promotional SMSes in the desert. iMessage does not have that limitation I believe.
Does it work without subscribing to phone service since it's supplied by apple?
But i want to use it when i’m out of data any helpful tip
You can pay for extra data.
Remove your SIM
@@dakshanbalaramesh They use E-SIMs now.
You'd have to be out of cell tower/wifi range too...but in those conditions, it would probably work!
@@raemill4089 what if you never had a data plan at all?
Is there any charges for using satellites? Or just an ad bonus for having an iPhone and is there and limits ?
Oh nice, this is great for pilots
Isn't handheld GPS use normally prohibited on (commercial) aircraft? I know the aircraft will have its own, but the antennas for those will be located in places that won't cause issues with other equipment. 😇
And you just made me realise: Airlines might have to apply a _No Satellite Communication Service_ rule in the cabin if attempted satellite communications could cause issues with aircraft equipment. Transmission power for 800 miles will punch through most FCC conformant shielding... ⚡
@@dieseldragon6756 WTF NO. The most popular GPS tool for aviation is the cockpit IPAD. Even commercial airline pilots use them for their Electronic Flight Bag and weather maps. It still wierds me out the industry has made the common iPad become the FAA approved standard.
@@dieseldragon6756 "No Satellite Communication Service rule in the cabin if attempted satellite communications could cause issues with aircraft equipment." That's only for High powered TRANSMISSION satellite links. Something like a Cell Phone LEO Satellite link is literally just based on 4.5G LTE Advance technology. Which obviously has been cleared by FCC and fine with airliner use. General Aviation pilots already RELY on 4G LTE for communications.
FYI GPS Devices have NO TX TRANSMISSION capability. It is a one way RX RECIEVE only device thus it can not cause any EMR interferance. Nothing you have said has any technical accuracy.
@@dieseldragon6756 Nope a 4.5G LTE Advance CELL PHONE linking to a LEO satellite can not punch through most properly designed shielding. It's just an absurdly weak transmission strength that can easily blocked. Note a 3500mah battery has to last many hours transmitting. Your assertions are wrong.
@@dieseldragon6756 Your entire comment is erroneous nonsense.
1. GPS Device is RX RECIEVE only. It has no ability transmit to a satellite thus not possible to cause interference.
2. The most popular GPS Device for COMMERCIAL AIRLINE pilots the Cockpit IPAD. FAA tested them out in 2011 and seems like industry has adopted the common iPAD as the industry standard for Electronic Flight Book. Obviously the GPS antenna for an iPAD is internal in the tablet thus the cockpit.
3. LEO Satelite to Cell Phones link is just based on 4.5G LTE Advance radio technology. This is obviously a very weak transmission strength that has been regulated by the FCC.
4. Any properly designed shielding will easily block a 4.5G LTE Advance CELL PHONE as the signal strength is soo weak. A 3500mah cell phone battery has to last for many hours doing many tasks ontop of transmitting data.
5. "No Satellite Communication Service rule in the cabin if attempted satellite communications" only applies to high powered dedicated satellite uplink device which typically need a dish like antenna. Obviously that is not possible to use on all in one handheld device.
Your entire comment has zero technical accuracy.
Does it work on older iPhone?
So this could be the first stepping stone for Apple bypassing service providers, right?
do we need a Subscription plan to use it ??
iPhone just few models away from becoming satellite phone! Great life saving feature to have ! But let’s be kind to satellites & not spam / DoS them 😉
Hi, is this feature available for worldwide?
Is there any charging plan for this?
Too bad Tom Hanks didn't have this in Cast Away, the movie would have only been 20 minutes long and his marriage would have been saved!
OMG this is game-changing for long-distance sailors. Anyone crossing oceans will be looking to use this.
Google confirmed that Android 15 this fall will have satellite connectivity which will work with SMS, MMS, and RCS, so Apple needs to get to work on the RCS part.
I cannot wait to use this feature. As a pilot I spend a lot of my life in the sky. I currently use a garmin inreach to message from the plane but this is next level!
wait, so iphone 14 above only?
Yes, because these phones have the bands to talk to satellites.
@@carlosgaineynot true
I have never been more excited for an iPhone update
Yet another amazing feature to want to be a blue dot vs a green dot!
What is the RF power level going from the phone to sat ?
lol android and Samsung fans will claim they had this since 2007
They do all over the comments 😂 But don’t realize it’s just typical “empty promises” on Android. Just like every messenger Google ever created and then abandoned 😂
The smartest thing that Google could have ever done was keep Hangouts and add RCS to it. Alternatively, they could have added it to the main Messages app as an alternative, but unfortunately, that never happened.
@@foreigncontaas long as you have some line of sight it’s possible.
what should I do if I’m under rubble and can’t move as required by the function?
Eyes Tracking
They meant to connect to the satellite@@omarjr2011
This dude must've been on the edge of getting fired or something. Buddy was shaking so bad.
ikr? i thought nobody else noticed, his breathing also lol
Can you sms/iMessage via satellite with an iPhone 14 (or newer) that does not have a SIM card/carrier plan? Ie no Verizon/AT&T ect?
What iPhone version does one need to have to use this service.
From a person that visits Mexico a lot and have to use a national carrier to use in rural areas with no signal… this is a game changer
This really can save lives.
Wait, that was kind of unclear, can someone message you if you are out of service, or do you have to msg them when out of service first? Can u open imsg with an satellite connection and it will catch up on imsgs?
If they are iMessages yes.
Does this work with iPhone 15???
I think that’s really good. If u have an emergency u might need that function.
I am taking a cruise in Nov. Can I use this feature to comm with folks when on the boat?
As a beta tester I have used this several times at the Fire Department when I had lost phone and radio contact. In a mountainous area, but I was able to send a text to someone that was at the station on Wi-Fi and they were able to relay my message to dispatch.
Wow I got to give it up to Apple’s engineers with the implementation and the amount of difficulty this must have been to make seamless and intuitive.
How do I turn off cell service to test this?
I go to festivals a lot, how about the other end if they don’t have cellular connection. Will they receive my text?
This appears to use iMessage. So both ends would need an iPhone 14 or newer and have their phone pointed at the satellite to be sure to receive the text.
In addition to that, this feature uses Globalstar geostationnary satellites, which don't work at all in valleys or if a mountain is obstructing the signal.
Is it available anywhere or selected Zones ?
I wonder a lot of things…what satellite is this? how is it paid for? what technology in the phone connects to the satellite? could you use satellite exclusively instead of having an Internet connection? can other cell phone makers offer this service also?
I wonder if they will add calling via satellite or even FaceTime via satellite.
When will I be able to download iOS 18?
I'm curious was to whether Find My would work if a fried or family initiated it. I know they can't initiate a message unless they are in a family group or on the emergency list. does this hold true for Find My as well or is it a one shot deal where the sender just uploads a current position?
So it’s not only for iphone 15 phones? But also for older iphone’s that will get ios 18?
Im pretty sure any iPhone that can update to iOS 18 will get it. I have a 14 pro with ios18 beta and it works for me, also rcs messages works.
@@franksilvia3402 Oh okay, thanks! So most likely my iPhone 13 Pro Max will get it too
This Creator of SMs via SAT is a Genius!
Love this feature also love the shirt Patrick as always great information from you 👍🏻
Bro this is so good while traveling
Finally cut down on roaming charges
Will this finally be available worldwide ?
I have a satellite phone for emergencies. But every once in a while I test it. It's pretty expensive for just a just in case thing. Pay per minute and pay per text.
Available in the UK?
Got to use this for the first time because Verizon was having issues.
Can you daisychain nearby phones such as search and rescue or fire protection/prevention and just have a 15 sec ping and have an iPad see the dots as a dashboard? Based on my experience, can you go up to 128 phones for the first generation as multiple teams along a brush fire and the supervisor can relay to aerial or following support how close to contact or how close to the rescue person?
But you have to pay for that service, how long is it free?
well its not made paid right now and apple isn't really a subscription type company IMO so I THINK it will be free forever
@@the7starfighters wow as they likely get charged a few pence for every message sent
Free for first 3 years.
would you have to pay extra for it / would it be any different to sending normal messages ?
imagine storing your photos into space. how cool this sounds!. from drive to cloud to freakin' space! i love apple.
What does this have to do with images in space?
Yeah aliens can see your photos sure 😂
You are weird
Bit of a reality check needed: Satellite communication is _really_ expensive (Both in terms of money, and power required for transmission) which is why this will only carry (Heavily compressed) text messages and emoji, so the age of sending photos to the iCloud (Or should that be _iCosmos?_ ) over satellite is still a fair way away.
*But:* The one time I wanted to send bulk data from an off-grid location, I used SD cards and a carrier pigeon. 128GB of data carried 200 miles in under six hours, and all for higher speed and lower cost than sending the same over the mobile networks of the day. 🐦💾💨👍
Bit of a reality check needed: Satellite communication is _really_ expensive (Both in terms of money, and power required for transmission) which is why this will only carry (Heavily compressed) text messages and emoji, so the age of sending photos to the iCloud (Or should that be _iCosmos?_ ) over satellite is still a fair way away.
*But:* The one time I wanted to send bulk data from an off-grid location, I used SD cards and a carrier pigeon. 128GB of data carried 200 miles in under six hours, and all for higher speed and lower cost than sending the same over the mobile networks of the day. 🐦💾💨👍
Also, YT: My voice, my comment, my right to freedom of speech. As always, any unauthorised deletion/dropping/removal of my replies and comments is *strictly* prohibited. 🧑⚖
Great service. But if i can't do any physical activity by my hand in that emergency how i connect the satellite .
The question is this service Free if charge ?
So, I could send a sneaky text message when flying?
@2:07 interesting how laggy the app is as he closes it off of the screen there. Usually they move much more smoothly. Maybe it is just because the app is still in beta. Clever stuff either way.
I think this is the developer beta, which is a lot slower than the public beta, hopefully it's smooth when it releases
Nice updated feature. Wonder if this will work while on an airplane.
Probably not unless you hold the phone near a window. Even normal GPS had an issue locking on on my iPhone 15 Pro, even though I was in a Window seat, holding the phone with view of the sky
Is this only available in US.?
The only flaw I’ve noticed while using this over the last couple of days is that when you re-enter an area with cellular connectivity, the iPhone won’t automatically gain that signal back. I’ve had to toggle airplane mode on and back off to get that connectivity back.
🙄 that’s like your least worries when you’re in an emergency
You’re using a very early version, they probably will work out a lot of bugs before iOS 18 is released.
Does it let you send messages to android users?
When iPhone 14 was announced, they said the Satellite features are free for 2yrs. Is the Satellite SMS feature free for a fixed promotional duration ?
does the phone number contacted via satellite have to already be in your friends and family contacts or can it be added when you are out in the sticks without cell service.
If it works like regular iMessage then you can always add the number later.