More Men Should Cry Like They Do In Anime

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  • @RobinClower
    @RobinClower Рік тому +119

    This is part of why Everything Everywhere all at Once was so good. The male action hero doesn't win because he out fights everyone, he helps his wife win by showing love and joy to those around him. The final action scene is not won with kung fu, it's won with empathy and love.

    • @alpachinko9154
      @alpachinko9154 9 місяців тому +1

      Everything is Gung fu. Did you not listen to waymond, or Evelyn's shifu?
      Empathy and love are his way of fighting. Empathy and love are his gung fu.
      Gung fu doesn't just mean martial skill. It applies to any practice people engage in.

  • @Nateson
    @Nateson Рік тому +35

    this just inspired me to try out anime- wonderfully put together.

  • @silaslsilasl
    @silaslsilasl Рік тому +74

    on a brighter note, it's really nice that shows for younger demographics are the ones more willing to branch out into these nontraditional depictions that don't go by stereotype. Many American cartoons, for example. I would love the larger conversation on why media for adults is more immature than media for children :)

    • @TheSoak
      @TheSoak  Рік тому +12

      Definitely something to think about!

    • @Furydragonstormer
      @Furydragonstormer 8 місяців тому +5

      I got a feeling some of that is probably something due to generational social upbringings. Younger male generations are encouraged to open up more/be more in touch with their emotions (To varying degrees depending on the location), while older ones were given the toxic masculinity message for quite a long time

    • @LilyShimizu
      @LilyShimizu 3 дні тому

      Steven Universe is such a good case for this!! He’s the sweetest, most empathetic male protagonist I’ve seen in the last decade, and he even has an arc where he starts to fall victim to old masculine stereotypes of hardening himself, enjoying violence and spiraling into thinking he’s a monster but he’s saved by unconditional love and support!

  • @theonlymegumegu
    @theonlymegumegu 6 місяців тому +6

    i teared up a little myself listening to this ^_^ i do love how anime can play the meme of "the real treasure was the friends we made along the way" completely straight with no irony.
    and while i don't want to distract from this channel, i do want to further promote this subject and point people to the great ep on it that Pop Culture Detective did, "Boys Don't Cry (except when they do)"
    even though I've watched anime for a long time, it wasn't until that video when i really consciously noticed the difference in emoting between anime and Hollywood males, to the point i celebrate a little every time i see it happen in visual media now.

  • @rlas
    @rlas 8 місяців тому +7

    Everyone should be allowed to cry. Showing emotions is brave and human and healthy 😢

  • @HaloGuy5667
    @HaloGuy5667 Рік тому +31

    I really hope this video is seen by more people. Alot of men, no matter the age, need to know that embracing emotion doesn't make you weak. Im glad you covered this topic. Thank you.

    • @solokom
      @solokom 9 місяців тому +3

      Women also need to see this. It isn't by any means that's only men who blame men for showing weaknesses/vulnerability. While a lot women say they support men showing emotions, they are very often turned off when men actually do so

  • @rlas
    @rlas 8 місяців тому +8

    This is why I hate the Marvel movies. They are so over the top and toxic from within. A bunch of douchebags trying to safe the world or galaxy? No thanks. The only character I like is Spider-Man. But not in the new movies. The old movies and TV shows do him better. With a personality and always the reminder of responsibility for the surroundings.
    This responsibility seems non-existent in the blockbusters. Head through the wall is literally their only way to solve anything. Its tiring.

  • @SugoiChiisaiわ
    @SugoiChiisaiわ Місяць тому +1

    Thank you so much for this video!
    Recently I was just decided to drop most of the western culture and focused on a Japanese one. After that, I’v realized that actually my favorite genre is… drama. Genre, that I was avoiding for my entire life. And now I am happily crying in my room at nights wile reading manga or watching anime and.. actually feel emotions.
    Sadly I am still scared to tell my friends about it, or actually share this with someone in real life, but at least I learned how to talk about it in the internet. Before I can’t even have courage for that
    So… for me, I think, your video is just a pure gem. Man always should cry if they want to, yea. It’s natural. It’s good. It’s even… healthy
    I am very-very glad and even slightly proud of myself that I had discovered that… almost by myself. Cry, my reding this friend, cry, because the are things in the world that worth your tears

  • @chemsed
    @chemsed Рік тому +18

    I'm not convinced on the hypothesis that the suicide rate is related to the lack of crying. The suicide rate is higher in Japan. However, I doubt that the manga industry has the same reach as Hollywood in the Western world.

    • @fredericabernkastel8354
      @fredericabernkastel8354 Рік тому +12

      The point went directly over your head, congratulations!
      If you need some pointers, watch the last part of the video again - to isolate yourself and your feelings when you feel hopeless is the worst thing you can do. And burying your feelings is taught.
      The high suicide rates probably come from societal and work-related expectations. Ending your life instead of bringing shame to your family, as an example. That's not to say that japanese people don't bottle their feelings, it's the opposite. But maybe that's why shonen series are popular - because they teach you to be empathetic. To show your emotions.

    • @chemsed
      @chemsed Рік тому +9

      ​@@fredericabernkastel8354 I just wanted to discuss why the suicide rate per country seems to disprove the Soak affirmation, but the suicide rate per gender do prove the Soak affirmation. I admit that I overlook the suicide rate per gender argument, but I had in mind the high suicide rate in Japan at one point while watching the video, so I noticed a contradiction. Also, are Shonen really that popular tough? I still feel that even in Japan, there is a stereotype that mature men should not cry, read mangas and watch animes. As I mentioned, Hollywood movies reach a wider audience than Japanese anime, maybe even in Japan, I think.

    • @leonardoromano6400
      @leonardoromano6400 Рік тому

      Actually, suicide rate in Japan are lower than USA in the last years

    • @GE0attack
      @GE0attack 9 місяців тому

      dude hes reaching to consequence a lot you can watch Dr.ks video on male loneliness or tin man episode on modern wisdom. most men who self delete seek therapy and help but nothing works because mental health stuff is created by women for women. men need solution and power not talking, talking feels good after sometime you keep talking nothing makes it better

    • @boserboser6870
      @boserboser6870 5 місяців тому +4

      Japan suppresses emotions just as much as the west. More in many cases.
      Anime/manga is way more driven by artists with social critiques. So their heros who cry are aspirational not the status quo of men in japanese culture

  • @CrazyScorpioo
    @CrazyScorpioo Рік тому +5

    Great video and true! society makes it seem that men crying is bad, which IN itself is bad :/
    You deserve way more views for this!

  • @anujdalmia3055
    @anujdalmia3055 Рік тому +7

    Ace dying…. That arc of One Piece is something I never got over till date.

    • @professor_krieger
      @professor_krieger Рік тому +3

      "I want to live" hit harder.

    • @TheSoak
      @TheSoak  Рік тому +3

      It feels like such a powerful and meaningful death, really hit hard!

  • @murillokbbbb
    @murillokbbbb Рік тому +3

    well this video made me look like those anime boys crying :(
    Thank you man, sent this to my friends, great video!

  • @broad_cat
    @broad_cat Рік тому +17

    So glad Vinland Saga got a shout out. Such great brotherhood, thoughtfulness, and empathy in that show. Such a standout of the medium.

    • @TheSoak
      @TheSoak  Рік тому +3

      Season 2 is amazing!

  • @JennLux
    @JennLux 7 місяців тому +3

    This is a great video, thanks so much for this amazing analysis! I hope this gets shared widely and picked up by the algorithm fast!! :) you're really great at creating interesting videos with depth, keep it up! ❤

  • @mjunhzbgt1
    @mjunhzbgt1 Рік тому +2

    This channel deserves so much more attention!

  • @CallumDT
    @CallumDT Рік тому +5

    5:50 i think of Aragorn. LOTR Goated

  • @fluffy_fluffinity
    @fluffy_fluffinity Рік тому +6

    It's really great that you talk about this topic. Thank you for that.
    And to everyone out there: if you struggle with your emotions talk about that with someone! Give yourself the chance to feel them. Bottling them up really destroys you from the inside. I speak from my own experience.

  • @masoneckhardt8879
    @masoneckhardt8879 Рік тому +3

    SVB this was composed brilliantly! I hope you really get this to take off

  • @DonVittoria
    @DonVittoria 4 місяці тому

    Currently writing about how Kaiju No. 8 is filled with examples of positive masculinty too. Love this!

  • @bonnyabbzug
    @bonnyabbzug Рік тому +3

    DAMN I HAVEN'T WATCHED VERY MUCH ANIME SO FAR BUT I DO LOVE ME A GOOD CRY. VERY AWESOME VIDEO!!!

    • @broad_cat
      @broad_cat Рік тому +1

      I'm sure if you ask any anime fan for tearjerkers they will flood you with choices haha. There's sorrowful cry, empathetic cry, happy cry, all the flavors of tears you could want! But for real, I love the emotional availability of the medium, but I'd never seen it addressed this way until now. This vid was very insightful!

    • @CallumDT
      @CallumDT Рік тому

      Watch Love Is War.

  • @ohrats7713
    @ohrats7713 Рік тому +2

    very well done video as always. keep up the great work

  • @Rylocochu
    @Rylocochu Рік тому +3

    This is why I appreciate anime more then anything as most modern shows just feel so fake.

  • @lindsaybirk9364
    @lindsaybirk9364 Рік тому +3

    Eloquent work as usual! Keep it up SVB ❤

  • @minidialga64
    @minidialga64 9 місяців тому +1

    ideal masculinity, which is basically unreachable but quite encouraged to persue should be the romantic kind of masculinity, and not as in love, but as in something that truly moves and inspire emotions, to become better and do what feels right, to go stoically against the system that hurts us to become better and make our enviroment better, not to remain stoic but to build a place to be happy, tanjiro cries cus he acts stoic, he persues that stoicism cus he has to, he has to fight againts the pain and the evil around him but when everything is set and done, at least for a while, he cries cus he isn't stoic, he doesn't want to, he needs to and that's admirable to go against your emotions is hard and its there where people mistake what stoicism is truly about, stoic people are emotional people who want that strength of heart to beat their pains, not statues who are barely human

  • @Slaakarok
    @Slaakarok Рік тому +1

    Amazing video with an excellent topic

  • @manuelt1419
    @manuelt1419 8 місяців тому +4

    I think each man has his own way of showing emotions. Some are violent, some are soft, some are lonely, and some cry. These are all valid until they come to harming others. Our media needs to help young men to realize that they matter, they aren’t toxic, they are great, but they have to work for it and it isn’t easy. We should show men there are options in our emotions and how to cope better with it. We are all in this struggle called life together my brothers.

  • @YTHandlesWereAMistake
    @YTHandlesWereAMistake Рік тому

    Having watched this and the podcast that followed, I feel like "Strong Friend" by Royce da 5'9 can bring some more reinforcement and positive to this idea.
    And thank you for discussing this, it means a lot.

  • @ghomeyshi7
    @ghomeyshi7 7 місяців тому

    that was really good thanks! i just realized why i hate Hollywood movies and love anime so much!

  • @Fareeha
    @Fareeha Рік тому +1

    I can't believe you have me wanting to watch anime again.
    what have you done.

  • @Gilbot9000
    @Gilbot9000 Рік тому

    So happy to see the channel going well over here.

  • @ItsOnlyGenjutsu
    @ItsOnlyGenjutsu Рік тому +1

    Was not expecting SVB when I clicked this haha

  • @twizzbharat2577
    @twizzbharat2577 Рік тому

    I didn't think this kind of content was my thing but it was super interesting. Glad to see you back SVB:]

  • @A_Wirla
    @A_Wirla Рік тому

    Great video!

  • @reynauldwhistles2338
    @reynauldwhistles2338 Рік тому

    Damm, I was waiting for this video, well done I dont know what to add I just comment to help whit the algorytm.

  • @FollowUrOwnPath
    @FollowUrOwnPath 8 місяців тому

    Just found your channel and wanted to say thank you for creating such quality content about anime :) it's getting rarer these days, so thank you!

    • @Saber23
      @Saber23 8 місяців тому

      This is quality to you?

    • @FollowUrOwnPath
      @FollowUrOwnPath 8 місяців тому

      @@Saber23 It's like a well thought out video essay instead of random theories that people make just to make content. No hate to those, but this one made me think and see a new perspective so yes, this is what I call quality content. 🥰

  • @5thgen691
    @5thgen691 3 місяці тому

    I only cry when watching anime 😢

  • @SkypadEnjoyer
    @SkypadEnjoyer Рік тому

    Great video but I’m very sad that I got spoiled that ace dies :(

  • @Jermzow
    @Jermzow Рік тому +1

    what overwatch does to a mf

  • @lypreila7913
    @lypreila7913 Рік тому

    George Patton was pulled entirely out of the the field for that little stunt, then they put him in command of an entirely fictional army group instead of letting him be involved in the Normandy landings. My grandpa was in the 3rd Army and always said he was an asshole lmao.

  • @Jonathan-lm2qs
    @Jonathan-lm2qs 8 місяців тому +1

    I am a bit mad that you used the guardians of the galaxy sequence. Where I find that in those movies the consequences for their dickish, selfish behavoiur are very much real. And in drax and quill characters we do not have the typical male stereotype. Also rocket

  • @minuii
    @minuii 6 місяців тому

    There is not worth crying for in real life cause at the end of life its death a hard truth but if fantasy powers comes to reality maybe💀💀

  • @Therhinoexists
    @Therhinoexists Рік тому +6

    i do however think that is important to notice how the suicide rates of men have grown at the same time as messages of anti masculinity and "men should cry" messages are most common

    • @alpachinko9154
      @alpachinko9154 9 місяців тому +3

      It's not "anti masculinity" it's anti toxicity.....

    • @nanba009
      @nanba009 8 місяців тому +1

      ah yes, good old correlation-causation fallacy.

  • @frozetti
    @frozetti Рік тому +2

    Full disclosure: Skipped the Demon Slayer part of the video, as i just finished 1st season.
    I agree that male cry can add so much impact, and i never had problems with that, but specifically Tanjiro and his whole Love Everyone shtick, it irritates me so much.
    Possibly minor spoilers for S1 just in case
    As i see it, all demons that we see in S1, have long lost anything that made them human, they terrorized, killed and ate dozens and dozens of people. Most, if not all of them, actively made choice that led them to their eventual deaths.
    Yet show insists on trying to jerk a few tears from me, when literally every single demon is killed. Not even a major one, but just some random d-tier.
    I mean not every single one needs to have this treatment.
    Imo of course

    • @broad_cat
      @broad_cat Рік тому +2

      I definitely agree with the idea that Demon Slayer forces the tear-jerking a bit plainly and that turns me off occasionally. But it *also* is one of the reasons that sold me on the show in the beginning. Tanjiro being the most cinnamon roll shounen protag. However, like with anything, doing the same thing repeatedly or without the nuance it once had really cheapens the experience once you see through it. It doesn't feel earned anymore.
      And that's not a heavy criticism, I still like the show, its just lost that sparkle a bit where Tanjiro is almost inhumanly saintly. Just a bit of tarnish on him would go a long way at this point.

    • @frozetti
      @frozetti Рік тому +1

      @@broad_cat yes, exactly! Forced, that's the word i was lookin for.
      Like for exemple in the mini arc where we meet Inosuke. Demon there is just a demon of the episode, no more no less. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT HIS STORY! And it's not even remotely interesting or justifying

    • @Tayleron
      @Tayleron Рік тому +2

      Every demon was a person, that's the point. Just because you want to see random violence for the sake of it, doesn't take away that they're people. You say it's just a random demon, but that's like saying it's just a random person, and that's not how the show wants you to view the world.

    • @alpachinko9154
      @alpachinko9154 9 місяців тому

      ​@@frozettiThen why should anyone care about your opinion on the internet? You're just another random demon....

  • @TheFinalPam-cy6et
    @TheFinalPam-cy6et Рік тому +6

    Okaaay, I'll watch Demon Slayer.

  • @Azor19
    @Azor19 Рік тому +1

    Joel cried a lot in last of us

  • @CallumDT
    @CallumDT Рік тому +3

    Men crying in film is fine and important. Though thst doesn't mean it should be forced into every film ofcourse as though its some political agenda.

    • @alpachinko9154
      @alpachinko9154 9 місяців тому +1

      The fact that you think men expressing emotions is some kind of insidious plot, is the issue.
      What do you think the outcome will be? What do you think the intended outcome is?

    • @CallumDT
      @CallumDT 9 місяців тому +3

      @@alpachinko9154 it's not one size fits all is what I mean. Imagine Dredd or the terminator started crying. That's so out of character and would not fit the film

    • @alpachinko9154
      @alpachinko9154 9 місяців тому

      @@CallumDT I think you're missing the point, that when writing the shows/films the crying is always contextualised.
      They're not crying for no reason, but we've become conditioned to think that genuine emotions can't be trusted. Especially if a man is expressing anything other than anger/rage.

    • @CallumDT
      @CallumDT 9 місяців тому +1

      @@alpachinko9154 my point still remains.....
      There shouldn't be crying in every film.....

    • @alpachinko9154
      @alpachinko9154 9 місяців тому

      @@CallumDT And there isn't. That is not reality my guy.

  • @ChunkTheEditor
    @ChunkTheEditor Рік тому +4

    I've always been so confused as to why some male "protagonists" are often idolized despite having really flawed morals. But I guess if they're cool enough it doesn't matter, right? Amazing video btw

  • @breadBread3535
    @breadBread3535 Рік тому

    Your voice sounds awfully familiar but I can't pin it down lmao
    Great video though

  • @mazaaaya4283
    @mazaaaya4283 9 місяців тому +4

    The First Avenger was Masterpiece, it’s literally prefect in any other way I hardly disagree

  • @reynal_omnicide9217
    @reynal_omnicide9217 Рік тому +3

    This emotional suppression is a sad reality being spread by Hollywood and memes. It's so nice to see someone care enough to make videos about it.

  • @9percent98
    @9percent98 8 місяців тому +3

    The message of the video is good, but i still think that men shouldn't show emotion in hard times , at least in front of their family, because the man should always look strong in front of his kids and wife, if the man start crying the family will panic in those hard times . That is my personal opinion

  • @Azor19
    @Azor19 Рік тому

    For the Al gore rhythm

  • @AvatarLiger
    @AvatarLiger Рік тому +1

    What I'd do to see a gohan/deku/tanjiro like character in a high budget superhero film. Just a yound lad screaming his lungs out fighting and crying and winning a losing battle through sheer determination with no quips or serious overtones.
    I yelled in the cinema when cap picked up the hammer in end game but that's 10 years build up. ANIME just hits harder faster and sooner with that pay-off. But I (and the entire cinema) erupted with tears multiple times in the second hero academia movie when every classmate got their moment and the deku bakugo final fight against nine. Just a bunch of kids struggling and crying and pushing themselves beyond the limit to to beat an impossible foe just to buy time for their friends to heal.
    **SPOILER WARNING for latest season of hero academia
    (when class 1a were trying to subdue deku and everyone pushed each other forward and then I kept saying where's iida where's iida where's iida and then he's the one they're pushing because they know he will catch him, and he's crying and dekus crying and everyones in tears at this moment of just trying to rescue a friend) such a simple premise but that anime storytelling electrified the scenario more than any mainstream film)
    Love the vid. Finally someone WHO GETS IT!! ❤

  • @chagrin5014
    @chagrin5014 Рік тому +2

    you know i think you should have pointed out how social media glorified characters like walter white, Patrick bateman, all these "sigma male" characters because its very disappointing that the very characteristics you criticised also were looked upon negatively early on but because audience kept on missing the point (mostly using fight club as an example) in addition to superhero movies becoming the norm, the entertainment shifted to badass main characters that show very little emotion to the point that they are bland, granted it worked with john wick but by the time the 3rd one came out his character was reduced to a hitman.
    Now thats how I see how we arrived at the situation, we used have these movies that potrayed these characteristics but eventually the main character would have a chabge of heart towards the end of the movie. One i would always remember is children of men for this example.

  • @celestemcduff
    @celestemcduff Рік тому +1

    Last time I saw a man cry on screen was the newest Haunted Mansion movie - that movie is actually much stronger in its themes grief and loss than the rotten tomatoes score and I'd encourage everyone to give it a watch sometime!

  • @hartyewh1
    @hartyewh1 Рік тому +1

    Good stuff, but I can't stand the dubs😅
    Check the Breaking Bad scene in german or russian and you'll know how it feels😂

  • @gmanz5
    @gmanz5 Рік тому +2

    I as a man cry all the time. I try really hard to be vulnerable and open-minded for anyone that needs the space to be vulnerable

  • @elsagarding4814
    @elsagarding4814 9 місяців тому

    Hello

  • @alvinrosa2281
    @alvinrosa2281 Рік тому

    "promosm"

  • @Alelusan
    @Alelusan Рік тому

    Algorithm Algorithm algorithm

  • @Rengokuo4o6
    @Rengokuo4o6 Рік тому +1

    God forbid grown men cry.

    • @Iefan-oc
      @Iefan-oc 5 місяців тому +1

      Bro why do you think we cry in the first place, it’s a reaction of the body to release stress , it’s healthy for the body

  • @jayroa969
    @jayroa969 Рік тому +3

    I respect the encouragement to express to not be trapped, but finding a purpose is the solution to many men in despair, not crying.
    Do you actually know what the psychological impact of crying does to a man.
    No, brutally ask yourself if you know enough.
    I respect you are trying to make youtube videos, but encouraging men to do that; as in frequently* and on screen is encouraging weakness.
    You don't know enough youtuber.
    It weakens a man's internal fortitude, and emotions getting bottled up is a lie.
    They don't.
    Moralize rationality more than emotion.
    Peace. Grow internal fortitude and find your Purpose in life.
    Not crying and more on screen.
    This does not solve the mental health crisis
    If a man needs to cry though, do so rarely and by himself.
    Ego is an illusion.
    Stop the confusion.
    Peace.
    Last thing, 'the soak,' I mean really.
    Sounds like propaganda to mean.

    • @jpmusik6969
      @jpmusik6969 Рік тому

      Crying and showing emotion is literally a human thing that shouldn’t be disregarded and kept hidden for any reason. Sounds like u need a good cry my good man u must be bottling up shit for a while tryna keep a figure of a “masculine man”

    • @spicyspace1319
      @spicyspace1319 Рік тому +3

      Ok then, never cry in your life ever.

    • @Kei73737
      @Kei73737 Рік тому +3

      Evidence please

    • @alpachinko9154
      @alpachinko9154 9 місяців тому +1

      Bro, why are you complaining in public via the internet?
      You should be bottling that up, in self imposed isolation.

    • @paulgibbon5991
      @paulgibbon5991 4 дні тому

      That's a lot of words when you're just rehashing the tired old "man up" cliche.