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that octavia has the worst case of tunnel vision i've ever seen in my life, must be heaven to fight againts her lol, strix too had bad tunnel vision at the start but atleast he learns throughout the match
judging his aim as a strix main he is bad to average strix, cause he never shot Andrew from the stealth, always was shooting from the pistol and his overall aim was pretty bad
Ya doesn't know you can shoot during the 0,5 sec invis activation. But I can give him that, contrary to what I used to do for LONG as a Strix main, he is going invis in one way but changing direction when he became invis. Very good thing that I would have wanted someone telling me when I started to Strix with I bad aim Strix is a very hard champ to play, because its hard to quickscope as fast as Nessa shots. Also, with how little mobility you have, you must have a VERY HIGH positionnal awarness (knowing where are the flanks, knowing if you should retreat BEFORE the ennemy team arrive or else you either wont have time to flee or, at best, do anything meaningful for your team). When a flank are already on you, its likely too late to invis and flee ; your best chance is a poke battle or amazing quickscope (avoid pistol if the enemy is high hp)
It's also their team's crippling specilization composition. All DPS and Flank are direct damage based. 2 Snipers/scopers style. One burst duelist flank. No Blaster. No Melter.
The answer is that vora is trash now because of the nerfs her 2 dmg inmunitys are no longer anymore in the game and her basic attacks are way more hard to hit now because they make them a 20% smaller not to mention that Dr cards are bad on vora so if you are against a good strix he can most of the time just shot you twice and you will be like with 200 of hp (with veteran and heaven) so if the strix you are fighting buys heaven and veteran and he is good hitting his sniper shots you will be deceased the 100% of the time and im talking about strix which is a pretty bad character just dumpster on vora imagine if you are fighting against a meta character like Tyra,Dredge,Saati or Cassie
Lillith/double support meta has severely reduced her viability. You can't make crazy backline plays/flanks as much and it's more of a poking war. I find myself running the 10% extra talent mainly now bc you need the extra dmg so often. I think too if they reduced her windup on ult to 1 sec instead of 2 it could be used more as you can caut someone right before you pop it and they still get full healed in the time it takes to wind up:/ Popping her ult rn is a guaranteed trade of your life 95% of the time.
That's a common route for people to come back to the fight, Andrew must've vined there just to zone out people that came there, then saw Octavia when he was in the air so he aimed for her
I didn't! I tendriled up there to reposition into that hallway so I could intercept anyone coming by, and the Octavia happened to be traveling through there as I did so.
Andrew: vines into a stun move Also andrew: wow those map reworks...thats totaly the reason i fell and not because of the stun that was clearly indicated with the word "stunned"...right guys? Never change andrew you are great...a little toxic but a really great youtuber regardless :)
Shes my favorite flank but the caut changes and DR meta really hurt her, as her sustain can't keep up with the caut and the DR supports and dmg champs can get is way higher than she can realistic chew through do to how slow the ticks are. Also VII exists, who can spam braindead damage, travel across the map and have damage immunity while theyre at it.
It's the weapon inspect. If you click on your emote wheel and then click on the sword, you can do it. Alternatively, you can bind it to a button. In my case, I bound it to 'F'.
Vora's not in a good place atm. Damage is so underwhelming, it needs buffs severely. I'm also finding it pretty difficult to hit her shots on console. Her self sustain doesn't even balance out her lack of damage. I really hope the team and AOC give this some attention.
nooo! she is the same on console,only a bit more difficult,but her Damage an sustain are good,mabye the ult its a bit bad,but her kit is pretty usable!
@@bribriibribrii She's one of my main characters, highest level I have, and I'm able to do well in my matches but from my experience she just doesn't keep up with many of these other flanks that I hardly play and can almost double what I do with Vora
Woah major disagree I think her dps is solid if you consider all the abilities she has. You need to be playing unyielding pressure if you want maximum value out of her tho. I'm not sure how her shots are hard to hit when she has some of the biggest shots in the game. Everytime I play vora I get top dmg in game and a bunch of kills.
@@flyingdragoncar4975 her DMG is underwhelming, caut change makes her sustain literally non existent and her ult is basically a guaranteed death. If anything she needs a buff
Yall never gonna accept the fact that champs w no burst like vora can actually be better than most hitscans seven is broken thanks to his bombs and thats it nothing more while vora can go get a kill fall back reveal invise charaters heal herself have cc in her base kit and have the best mobility in the game VII is just good thanks to the bombs if he didnt have spring loaded talent he would be the most situational flank also seven cant fight tanks unlike vora who melts them
@@nadrogiranakokos371 vii cant kill tanks?? Just imagine a poor raum who has 8500 hp he is just melted by vii bombs and mag dump and vii dont have bad dmg if you consider that he is hitscan he can just melt you with burst mode and his hooks not even needing his bombs because it does 900 dmg an burst shot plus a hook and the self sustain is just useless from minute 7 on Vora so i dont think that vora is better than vii in any aspect except that vora is easy to use and vii is not the hardest but he needs at least aim so its harder than vora
Hahahahahaha he said VII is harder to use yeah kid sure it is place bombs pull an enemy and mag dump 2k burst i have enough hrs and enough gamesense of this game to know whats skill needing and what is not and in this case vora is harder than VII in many aspects and her playerbase is the proof cz its basically very small cz not everyone can abuse voras true potential
Vora is my second favorite flank and I love her. But I can't help she is quite trashy right now: her burst is underwhelming, her dps is mediocre and her tankiness and selfsustain is not enough to make up for her other weaknesses. I hope she gets buffed, because VII does everything she does but better
I need to play more Vora, I genuinely forgot how much fun she really is!
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I love lifesteal builds/characters games in general, and vora's aesthetic and playstyle are sick
But caut kinda hurts man
that octavia has the worst case of tunnel vision i've ever seen in my life, must be heaven to fight againts her lol, strix too had bad tunnel vision at the start but atleast he learns throughout the match
judging his aim as a strix main he is bad to average strix, cause he never shot Andrew from the stealth, always was shooting from the pistol and his overall aim was pretty bad
Ya doesn't know you can shoot during the 0,5 sec invis activation.
But I can give him that, contrary to what I used to do for LONG as a Strix main, he is going invis in one way but changing direction when he became invis. Very good thing that I would have wanted someone telling me when I started to Strix with I bad aim
Strix is a very hard champ to play, because its hard to quickscope as fast as Nessa shots. Also, with how little mobility you have, you must have a VERY HIGH positionnal awarness (knowing where are the flanks, knowing if you should retreat BEFORE the ennemy team arrive or else you either wont have time to flee or, at best, do anything meaningful for your team). When a flank are already on you, its likely too late to invis and flee ; your best chance is a poke battle or amazing quickscope (avoid pistol if the enemy is high hp)
It's also their team's crippling specilization composition. All DPS and Flank are direct damage based. 2 Snipers/scopers style. One burst duelist flank. No Blaster. No Melter.
I remember when I was good with Vora. Now I just die within 2 seconds of trying to kill someone. I don’t know how I’m level 40.
Same here
She was severely nerfed. Not Yago levels of nerfs but quite big indeed
The answer is that vora is trash now because of the nerfs her 2 dmg inmunitys are no longer anymore in the game and her basic attacks are way more hard to hit now because they make them a 20% smaller not to mention that Dr cards are bad on vora so if you are against a good strix he can most of the time just shot you twice and you will be like with 200 of hp (with veteran and heaven) so if the strix you are fighting buys heaven and veteran and he is good hitting his sniper shots you will be deceased the 100% of the time and im talking about strix which is a pretty bad character just dumpster on vora imagine if you are fighting against a meta character like Tyra,Dredge,Saati or Cassie
Same here!!! I cannot stress it enough.
Lillith/double support meta has severely reduced her viability. You can't make crazy backline plays/flanks as much and it's more of a poking war. I find myself running the 10% extra talent mainly now bc you need the extra dmg so often.
I think too if they reduced her windup on ult to 1 sec instead of 2 it could be used more as you can caut someone right before you pop it and they still get full healed in the time it takes to wind up:/
Popping her ult rn is a guaranteed trade of your life 95% of the time.
Could you do a video about dash dash koga? With the energy gain when low at lvl 4 and ammo gen when dash at lvl 5
how did you know she was there ? 8:18 legit curious.
That's a common route for people to come back to the fight, Andrew must've vined there just to zone out people that came there, then saw Octavia when he was in the air so he aimed for her
I bet that was you 😂😂
I didn't! I tendriled up there to reposition into that hallway so I could intercept anyone coming by, and the Octavia happened to be traveling through there as I did so.
Andrew: vines into a stun move
Also andrew: wow those map reworks...thats totaly the reason i fell and not because of the stun that was clearly indicated with the word "stunned"...right guys?
Never change andrew you are great...a little toxic but a really great youtuber regardless :)
Shes my favorite flank but the caut changes and DR meta really hurt her, as her sustain can't keep up with the caut and the DR supports and dmg champs can get is way higher than she can realistic chew through do to how slow the ticks are. Also VII exists, who can spam braindead damage, travel across the map and have damage immunity while theyre at it.
vii doesn't have damage immunity
@@DrMemeTheTherapist He doesn't need it. He has enough mobility that he can usually just leave before he dies.
Yeaaah, balance in this game sucks. I get why they might nerf her, but with all the other champion buffs, I'm afraid she'll become weak af
@@Chr0n0s38 yeah but he does not have it
@@Chr0n0s38 vii has no damage immunity
I'm ZhinDiesel. I couldn't help but emote you. We were getting our butts whipped. And, yes, in case anyone was wondering we lost that match.
yo how were u doing that scythe stroke thing in the waiting lobby? ive never seen that before
It's the weapon inspect. If you click on your emote wheel and then click on the sword, you can do it. Alternatively, you can bind it to a button. In my case, I bound it to 'F'.
@@AndrewChicken Oh shit! Thats so dope! :D thank you ♥
best character in the game 🤤
Vora's not in a good place atm.
Damage is so underwhelming, it needs buffs severely. I'm also finding it pretty difficult to hit her shots on console. Her self sustain doesn't even balance out her lack of damage. I really hope the team and AOC give this some attention.
nooo!
she is the same on console,only a bit more difficult,but her Damage an sustain are good,mabye the ult its a bit bad,but her kit is pretty usable!
@@bribriibribrii She's one of my main characters, highest level I have, and I'm able to do well in my matches but from my experience she just doesn't keep up with many of these other flanks that I hardly play and can almost double what I do with Vora
Woah major disagree
I think her dps is solid if you consider all the abilities she has. You need to be playing unyielding pressure if you want maximum value out of her tho. I'm not sure how her shots are hard to hit when she has some of the biggest shots in the game. Everytime I play vora I get top dmg in game and a bunch of kills.
She’s literally fine; you just kinda suck. Her ults the only thing that actually needs to be changed
As i am andrew i can confirm, i did forget how fun vora was
Dude, these kill steals during her ULTIMATE are so anoying
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paladins
vora is so skilless
2nd most m1+w flank, right after Moji.
yeah this seems broken as all hell. I hope the nerf her.
Skilless??? 🤣🤣🤣 one of the most high skill ceiling champions
@@flyingdragoncar4975 her DMG is underwhelming, caut change makes her sustain literally non existent and her ult is basically a guaranteed death. If anything she needs a buff
You for real, have you ever played vora
Hey Andrew
Vora is fun, but imo VII is better and you dont need a talent to get 2 "better tendrils". He's hitscan as well as he can stick and be invis.
Agree but his dmg is underwhelming. Except for mag dump
Yall never gonna accept the fact that champs w no burst like vora can actually be better than most hitscans seven is broken thanks to his bombs and thats it nothing more while vora can go get a kill fall back reveal invise charaters heal herself have cc in her base kit and have the best mobility in the game VII is just good thanks to the bombs if he didnt have spring loaded talent he would be the most situational flank also seven cant fight tanks unlike vora who melts them
@@nadrogiranakokos371 vii cant kill tanks?? Just imagine a poor raum who has 8500 hp he is just melted by vii bombs and mag dump and vii dont have bad dmg if you consider that he is hitscan he can just melt you with burst mode and his hooks not even needing his bombs because it does 900 dmg an burst shot plus a hook and the self sustain is just useless from minute 7 on Vora so i dont think that vora is better than vii in any aspect except that vora is easy to use and vii is not the hardest but he needs at least aim so its harder than vora
@@nadrogiranakokos371 Vora is buns now. The cauterize changes smoked a lot of sustain champs
Hahahahahaha he said VII is harder to use yeah kid sure it is place bombs pull an enemy and mag dump 2k burst i have enough hrs and enough gamesense of this game to know whats skill needing and what is not and in this case vora is harder than VII in many aspects and her playerbase is the proof cz its basically very small cz not everyone can abuse voras true potential
Vora is my second favorite flank and I love her. But I can't help she is quite trashy right now: her burst is underwhelming, her dps is mediocre and her tankiness and selfsustain is not enough to make up for her other weaknesses. I hope she gets buffed, because VII does everything she does but better
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