😂😂😂😂boy howdy 🤠 my eyes perked up when you said, South Texas 🤣 anyway, this year I'm growing in pots due to age, blah blah and I'm going to try your Florida weave. I already have maters 🍅 fruiting and I'm excited. Oops 🤭 we're in Houston Texas and I'll let y'all know how it's going 🎉thank you for your direction 👍🏽 and enthusiasm
Yup😂 I remember goin to Mississippi from Central Texas. It's like going to the beach all the time except there ain't no water 😂. Them good ol boys gotta good laugh til I toughened up.
I grow Oxheart every year and they curl like that every time, also are stringy, but they will produce and produce, one of the best tomatoes I’ve ever grown. So give that Oxheart a chance, it will get going and you will be glad you didn’t pull it! I’m in Zone 8B PNW Washington, they are more sensitive to cold weather, so if your night temps are still 55 or below they tend to curl and same if windy. You’ll live the tomato, it’s amazing!
I got a kick out of your story about the heat and roadwork... I live in central Florida and think Georgia it to HOT and humid for me. It may be that we get some relief from the ocean and Gulf breezes...???
I have found for me as a senior citizen, for the first few lower levels of the Florida weave,it works better to tie the string to the first post and then pull out as much string as you will need for the row and then wind it onto a short stick instead of using the box on the belt.It works really good getting around plants and easier winding around tall t-posts.After the plants get taller,about two or three feet, I use the box on the belt because I can stand up straight at that point and you don't have to stretch so far to wrap around post.Really makes it alot easier.
Great video as always. One of the type of tomato cages that I use is concrete steel wire mesh. I cut it into 5' lengths and wire tie the ends together. These will last for years. Mine are 9-10 years old now. Of course the initial cost comes into play for a full roll but you can get about 30 cages from a roll.
The Florida weave was a game changer for me! I used jute bailing twine the first time...big mistake, it worked until it rotted. Listen to Travis and you'll be happy with the results.
Tomatoes originated from forest like areas so they grow better with some shade. I have 40% shade cloth of mine and they are booming!! It makes a huge difference.
Great tip about using 4-5’ posts. I bought 6’ and it’s sometimes difficult to reach over the post to wrap the string. We got some horrible storms with 70mph winds today and 90% of my tomatoes did well, I only had about 4 plants that laid ver on one row. It blew about 30% of my corn over as well, hopefully it will still be ok. Thanks for the helpful videos.
This year I’m trying the Florida 91 tomatoes that I got from Hoss. Here in MS it gets super hot so I’m hoping they have been bred for these conditions. This is the second year I’ve used nylon net to trellis my tomatoes and cucumbers.
We used to use a hog panel and 6 foot T posts. We tied them loose with cotton. I kinda like to tie them loose with cotton,then pull up the slack to expose the tomatoes when I'm pickin.
Grow indeterminates every year. South Georgia as well. Pruning indeterminate tomatoes did not work well in the past. I quit pruning them and now they grow 8-9 ft tall. Granted they get to be so bushy and turn into a jungle. But the plants last into late July much better.
My husband fussed this year about how many tomatoes I started. I said well you have to account for maybe some dying when you up pot. Also some might not make it when you plant in ground. It’s not like I throw out the extras I give them to my neighbor.
all this rain got my maters looking rough, hopefully they’ll bounce back here next week. we got drenched here in kentucky. hopefully all that will dry out and i’ll be able to get the garden fork in there to airate the clay soil
I made a Florida weaving wand. makes things a breeze! BUT what I did that is a necessity! I used a Christmas light hanging hook on the end instead of an eyelet style hook. The light hook has an extra bend with an opening allowing you to slip line in and out of the hook while still being able to apply pressure and run the wand in and out between plants without your line slipping out the hook.
Been using the Florida weave for years. This year I have 240 plants, so for me, it's the only way to keep them upright. I use hay baling twine. 2 rolls at the Co-op are usually around $20 and each is 10,000 feet. Lasts a long time. It doesn't stretch. I'm sure the baling twine has been menitoned, but just thought it would help someone.
5/10 /24 we had a humdinger of a rain and windstorm blow through early this morning with 70 mile an hour gusts of wind, here in Panama City, Florida and I had my tomatoes and peppers in a Florida weave, and it saved every one of them. my okra that is about 8 inches tall all got knocked down, but I think it’ll stand back up eventually I’ll help healing it a little bit when it dries out in a day or 2 . I learned the Florida weave from you and your dad a few years ago on one of your videos I would’ve never thought to do that. It’s a great idea. Thanks.
This is great because I'm about to have to do this in 7a with my determinates (Red Snapper, Roma) My only issue is I have a bunch of the heirloom indeterminates and I'm trying to figure out the best trellis for them now. 😆
I would really like to send some brag pics of my tomatoes. Jet stars, early girls, setting tomatoes now 3ft tall... 12 other indeterminates. Roadsters, Hossinators and mountain fresh determinates bushy as can be. Very proud how I am coming along in 7B Pulaski TN
My brain just can't figure it out-I'm planting a mix of determinate and indeterminate. Could you use the indeterminate combined with determinate and just keep adding more weave when you need it, if you had taller t-posts? Or how would someone go abouth that?! No worries if you can't answer, Lazy Dog Farm! You give enough education for all of us!!
I use the Florida weave with indeterminates. I found a way to make it work. I don't mix them in rows. I use 7 foot t-post. I keep them pruned to 3 production stems and weave each stem like an individual plant. They outgrow the posts but I zip tie a piece of furring strip to the post and keep going up. Hope this helps
Funny you comment about the 'struggling' tomatoes in this video. My wife and I were discussing this. Some of the leaves and branches at the bottom are dying. Plants are growing and look healthy everywhere but the bottom. Second, there are a lot of blooms and some are dying off and can't see any 'baby' tomatoes. Is there a time I should be concerned or do something different? I have Roma and Red Snapper. Thanks for any advice
lol. Hello from south Texas. 😂The BHN 871 variety looks really interesting! Please let us know what you think of it. I love yellow/orange tomatoes very much and this one is now in serious consideration for my fall garden.
Hey Travis, need some advice on whether you string around all the side branches. Last year I tried just the main stem, but the branches seemed out of control. Another mistake I made was mixing some plants that grew at different rates, like Principe (great for sun dried) and say Roma. The Principe can grow to 6 feet, very high for determinates. My wife didn’t like it at all, I told her if Travis recommends it must work, and I need to improve technique. This year I grouped types between posts. Maybe I am also pushing the limit at 4 between posts. BTW, I thought it best to drive with fin perpendicular to row, noticed your nubs out.
I took good advice 2 years ago and made it bad. I tried the Florida weave with indeterminate maters, and as you can guess, it was horrible. I ended up with conduit and teepees out of sweetgum sticks all over. Then I couldn't weed it, and it made harvesting a nightmare. It would probably work with those 8 foot posts, but I was using those flimsy green ones. Oh well Lessons learned
Ordering T-posts online most likely will be more expensive than just going to Tractor Supply or a farm store. most sell them in a bundle of 6. I would advise getting a t-post puller and a t-post rammer. it will help out a lot
@@scottstewart6260 I got twelve 6.5 inches T-Posts from tractor supply for $4.84 each. The PVC Tee 1 1/4 for 12 was too expensive ($50+). Using strings to vertical pruning and tie the posts together seems like a better solution. The problem is I got too excited and grew 35 cucumbers plants and 90+ indeterminate tomato plants almost ready to plant. I only have two 50 x 4 rows, two 40 x 4 rows and two mouths to feed. So I’m trying to figure out whether to plant less or as much as I can fit.
We used a piece of pvc pipe that the string went down in the top, from the box on are belt and backout a drilled hole a few inches down the back into the pipe, through another drilled hole about 4 four inches down from that then out the bottom of the pipe , then wrap black tape around the 4 inches inch section of pipe and string thats running on the outside of the pipe at top and there you can keep the tension in the string by gripping around the tape. Your armpit goes over the stakes as you take a wrap and go all the way down one side and back the other the end of the pipe is easy to get under the leaves at the right spot, and you can fly down a row. Probably not ver practical foe a small patch but it is quick when you are doing 7 acres. And no im not going to correct all the spelling errors 😢
My tomatoes in Sacramento California, grow like crazy. Does not seem to matter what type. I am thinking I am this great gardener, and that has nothing to do with it. Location, location.
I've seen so many people from the deep South, and hotter climates complaining about their tomatoes struggling with sun and heat. The blame for this lies directly at the feet of the seed companies and so called experts. Theirs so much misinformation out there on tomatoes. So many seed companies tell you to plant tomatoes in full sunlight, but if you live in zone 7, or higher, then this is horrible advice. Tomatoes absolutely do not need full, all day sunlight. Many people don't realize that tomatoes originated from South America, which is a much hotter, and more humid climate then anywhere you can find in the U.S. They key is how and where these original tomato plants grew, They grew in the forests and jungles of South America, with their vines snaking along the forest and jungle floors, protected by the tree canopies, and never being exposed to full, all day and sunlight. They only get partial, or a spackling of sunlight. If you live in the deep South, or in zones 7, or higher, then I would advise you to invest in a roll of shade cloth.... preferably about 40%. Basically, wherever your tomatoes are growing just drive some tall stakes into the ground in a square shape. Then just hang some shade cloth directly over your tomatoes, to where they are protected by the mid day sun, when the sun is straight over top. This will keep your tomatoes from getting stressed out, and prevent your flowers from falling off, and will also help your plants from getting common diseases that tomatoes sucomb to when they get stressed. This one thing will extend your tomatoe growing season and improve your fruit yield guaranteed. Now, by doing this, it can slightly slow down the plants speed of reaching maturity and producing tomatoes, but only by one to two weeks, and honestly if you live in the deep South, your growing season is long enough to where 2 weeks maximum will be worth the extra wait, in return of a longer tomatoe season and better yields in the end.
Sissy hands....sissy arms. Cracked me up!!
and sissy arms😂😂
Had me rolling 😂😂😂
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😂😂😂😂boy howdy 🤠 my eyes perked up when you said, South Texas 🤣 anyway, this year I'm growing in pots due to age, blah blah and I'm going to try your Florida weave. I already have maters 🍅 fruiting and I'm excited.
Oops 🤭 we're in Houston Texas and I'll let y'all know how it's going 🎉thank you for your direction 👍🏽 and enthusiasm
Used the Florida weave for the past two years. Works great! However, I made sure the string contacted the main stem all the way up. That was tough.
Yup😂 I remember goin to Mississippi from Central Texas. It's like going to the beach all the time except there ain't no water 😂. Them good ol boys gotta good laugh til I toughened up.
I grow Oxheart every year and they curl like that every time, also are stringy, but they will produce and produce, one of the best tomatoes I’ve ever grown. So give that Oxheart a chance, it will get going and you will be glad you didn’t pull it! I’m in Zone 8B PNW Washington, they are more sensitive to cold weather, so if your night temps are still 55 or below they tend to curl and same if windy. You’ll live the tomato, it’s amazing!
I got a kick out of your story about the heat and roadwork...
I live in central Florida and think Georgia it to HOT and humid for me. It may be that we get some relief from the ocean and Gulf breezes...???
I’m going to try this method but I’m going to call it the South Central PA Weave.
I use the South Carolina weave here.
I have found for me as a senior citizen, for the first few lower levels of the Florida weave,it works better to tie the string to the first post and then pull out as much string as you will need for the row and then wind it onto a short stick instead of using the box on the belt.It works really good getting around plants and easier winding around tall t-posts.After the plants get taller,about two or three feet, I use the box on the belt because I can stand up straight at that point and you don't have to stretch so far to wrap around post.Really makes it alot easier.
It makes it quicker and you can keep the string tighter.
@@jamespearson2342 I’m going to try it your way this season!
I've thought about pulling the string out of the box just for that reason
Great video as always. One of the type of tomato cages that I use is concrete steel wire mesh. I cut it into 5' lengths and wire tie the ends together. These will last for years. Mine are 9-10 years old now. Of course the initial cost comes into play for a full roll but you can get about 30 cages from a roll.
The Florida weave was a game changer for me! I used jute bailing twine the first time...big mistake, it worked until it rotted. Listen to Travis and you'll be happy with the results.
Tomatoes originated from forest like areas so they grow better with some shade. I have 40% shade cloth of mine and they are booming!! It makes a huge difference.
Great tip about using 4-5’ posts. I bought 6’ and it’s sometimes difficult to reach over the post to wrap the string. We got some horrible storms with 70mph winds today and 90% of my tomatoes did well, I only had about 4 plants that laid ver on one row. It blew about 30% of my corn over as well, hopefully it will still be ok. Thanks for the helpful videos.
I’ve used the weave for several years with t-posts and orange bailer twine. I tie every foot. 30 foot row about 15 minutes. Works great
This year I’m trying the Florida 91 tomatoes that I got from Hoss. Here in MS it gets super hot so I’m hoping they have been bred for these conditions.
This is the second year I’ve used nylon net to trellis my tomatoes and cucumbers.
Great video always love watching. Thank you so much for all your help. I’m a second year gardener could use all the advice I could get.
I’m definitely going to try this method this year!!! I will follow your rules Travis!
We used to use a hog panel and 6 foot T posts. We tied them loose with cotton. I kinda like to tie them loose with cotton,then pull up the slack to expose the tomatoes when I'm pickin.
I bought all the stuff I need to follow your five rules for the Florida weave this season, I’m very excited to do it like a pro!
Lazy dog farm , I love your videos!
So glad I found you guys on UA-cam
Looking forward to seeing your figs this year
Grow indeterminates every year. South Georgia as well. Pruning indeterminate tomatoes did not work well in the past. I quit pruning them and now they grow 8-9 ft tall. Granted they get to be so bushy and turn into a jungle. But the plants last into late July much better.
My husband fussed this year about how many tomatoes I started. I said well you have to account for maybe some dying when you up pot. Also some might not make it when you plant in ground. It’s not like I throw out the extras I give them to my neighbor.
all this rain got my maters looking rough, hopefully they’ll bounce back here next week. we got drenched here in kentucky. hopefully all that will dry out and i’ll be able to get the garden fork in there to airate the clay soil
Thank you Travis for the great details. I plan to use the FL weave on my indeterminate tomatoes this year.
I made a Florida weaving wand. makes things a breeze! BUT what I did that is a necessity! I used a Christmas light hanging hook on the end instead of an eyelet style hook. The light hook has an extra bend with an opening allowing you to slip line in and out of the hook while still being able to apply pressure and run the wand in and out between plants without your line slipping out the hook.
Been using the Florida weave for years. This year I have 240 plants, so for me, it's the only way to keep them upright. I use hay baling twine. 2 rolls at the Co-op are usually around $20 and each is 10,000 feet. Lasts a long time. It doesn't stretch. I'm sure the baling twine has been menitoned, but just thought it would help someone.
5/10 /24 we had a humdinger of a rain and windstorm blow through early this morning with 70 mile an hour gusts of wind, here in Panama City, Florida and I had my tomatoes and peppers in a Florida weave, and it saved every one of them. my okra that is about 8 inches tall all got knocked down, but I think it’ll stand back up eventually I’ll help healing it a little bit when it dries out in a day or 2 . I learned the Florida weave from you and your dad a few years ago on one of your videos I would’ve never thought to do that. It’s a great idea. Thanks.
Yep that’s the way I been doing. Awesome show
Sometimes tomatoes wilt due to temperature changes up and down. They usually bounce back.
I use the green tree tape to tie up my tomatoes between posts. Not the most organic method, but it works for me .
This is great because I'm about to have to do this in 7a with my determinates (Red Snapper, Roma) My only issue is I have a bunch of the heirloom indeterminates and I'm trying to figure out the best trellis for them now. 😆
I would really like to send some brag pics of my tomatoes. Jet stars, early girls, setting tomatoes now 3ft tall... 12 other indeterminates. Roadsters, Hossinators and mountain fresh determinates bushy as can be. Very proud how I am coming along in 7B Pulaski TN
My brain just can't figure it out-I'm planting a mix of determinate and indeterminate. Could you use the indeterminate combined with determinate and just keep adding more weave when you need it, if you had taller t-posts? Or how would someone go abouth that?! No worries if you can't answer, Lazy Dog Farm! You give enough education for all of us!!
I use the Florida weave with indeterminates. I found a way to make it work. I don't mix them in rows. I use 7 foot t-post. I keep them pruned to 3 production stems and weave each stem like an individual plant. They outgrow the posts but I zip tie a piece of furring strip to the post and keep going up. Hope this helps
@@mikew8214 that does help, thank you!!
Funny you comment about the 'struggling' tomatoes in this video. My wife and I were discussing this. Some of the leaves and branches at the bottom are dying. Plants are growing and look healthy everywhere but the bottom. Second, there are a lot of blooms and some are dying off and can't see any 'baby' tomatoes. Is there a time I should be concerned or do something different? I have Roma and Red Snapper. Thanks for any advice
Can you do a video on pepper varieties? We live in the same zone. Never had good luck with Bell peppers
Hey Tav😊
lol. Hello from south Texas. 😂The BHN 871 variety looks really interesting! Please let us know what you think of it. I love yellow/orange tomatoes very much and this one is now in serious consideration for my fall garden.
All I'm saying is start stacking bacon and Dukes mayo now 😂
What variety of slicing tomatoes and cherry tomatoes should I plant in middle Tennessee?
It works great but I use small or tall posts and my broke butt uses bailing twine whatever plastic they use idk. But 20 and I get 2 big rolls
Sissy hands!😂
Sorry this isn't tomato related question but where can seminole pumpkin seeds be purchased? Thank you.
I think Southern Exposure Seed Exchange has them.
Thank you they do have the Seminole pumpkin seeds. God Bless you and your family. Thank you for all of the knowledge that you share!
Hey Travis, need some advice on whether you string around all the side branches. Last year I tried just the main stem, but the branches seemed out of control. Another mistake I made was mixing some plants that grew at different rates, like Principe (great for sun dried) and say Roma. The Principe can grow to 6 feet, very high for determinates. My wife didn’t like it at all, I told her if Travis recommends it must work, and I need to improve technique. This year I grouped types between posts. Maybe I am also pushing the limit at 4 between posts. BTW, I thought it best to drive with fin perpendicular to row, noticed your nubs out.
As the plants get more bushy, I do end up wrapping the side branches with the string.
Have a love hate relationship with tomatoes. Florida weave doesn't work for me, but for those that works for them good for you
Did I miss the link to the tomato cages?
Can i use a heavy braided nylon mason line ? I use it for bricklaying & can pull it banjo string tight, but it does stretch.
I tried using Mason line a few years back and it slowly stretched on me when the Tom's got big and DISASTER
@@BNOBLE. Thanks much. Guess I won't be using it.
Is it too crowded to add 4 cucumber plants on each side of the 10 ft row and use vertical pruning?
As long as you pruned them heavily, you might be fine.
I took good advice 2 years ago and made it bad. I tried the Florida weave with indeterminate maters, and as you can guess, it was horrible. I ended up with conduit and teepees out of sweetgum sticks all over. Then I couldn't weed it, and it made harvesting a nightmare. It would probably work with those 8 foot posts, but I was using those flimsy green ones. Oh well Lessons learned
The most important is to not hit the drip tape with the stake
About how many pounds of tomatoes do you expect to get from each plant for the Red Snapper and Roadster varieties?
I've never weighed them. But we usually get 3-4 5 gal buckets from 15 plants.
I really like the posts. Can you also post the links?
Ordering T-posts online most likely will be more expensive than just going to Tractor Supply or a farm store. most sell them in a bundle of 6. I would advise getting a t-post puller and a t-post rammer. it will help out a lot
@@scottstewart6260 I got twelve 6.5 inches T-Posts from tractor supply for $4.84 each. The PVC Tee 1 1/4 for 12 was too expensive ($50+).
Using strings to vertical pruning and tie the posts together seems like a better solution. The problem is I got too excited and grew 35 cucumbers plants and 90+ indeterminate tomato plants almost ready to plant. I only have two 50 x 4 rows, two 40 x 4 rows and two mouths to feed. So I’m trying to figure out whether to plant less or as much as I can fit.
Will Roadster & Red Snapper work well in Northeast Ohio?
I don't see why not
@@LazyDogFarm Sweet! Gonna be watch'in for your seeds! Also, think'in Turkeycreek.
We used a piece of pvc pipe that the string went down in the top, from the box on are belt and backout a drilled hole a few inches down the back into the pipe, through another drilled hole about 4 four inches down from that then out the bottom of the pipe , then wrap black tape around the 4 inches inch section of pipe and string thats running on the outside of the pipe at top and there you can keep the tension in the string by gripping around the tape. Your armpit goes over the stakes as you take a wrap and go all the way down one side and back the other the end of the pipe is easy to get under the leaves at the right spot, and you can fly down a row. Probably not ver practical foe a small patch but it is quick when you are doing 7 acres. And no im not going to correct all the spelling errors 😢
Sissy Arms 😂
My tomatoes in Sacramento California, grow like crazy. Does not seem to matter what type. I am thinking I am this great gardener, and that has nothing to do with it. Location, location.
I notice that in a lot of your videos that you grow all kinds of different strains of vegetables. You ever get issues with cross breeding?
I'm sure it happens. But we don't save seeds much, so not really worried about it.
Oxheart seems to be a pain to care for in Ohio.
I've seen so many people from the deep South, and hotter climates complaining about their tomatoes struggling with sun and heat. The blame for this lies directly at the feet of the seed companies and so called experts. Theirs so much misinformation out there on tomatoes. So many seed companies tell you to plant tomatoes in full sunlight, but if you live in zone 7, or higher, then this is horrible advice. Tomatoes absolutely do not need full, all day sunlight. Many people don't realize that tomatoes originated from South America, which is a much hotter, and more humid climate then anywhere you can find in the U.S. They key is how and where these original tomato plants grew, They grew in the forests and jungles of South America, with their vines snaking along the forest and jungle floors, protected by the tree canopies, and never being exposed to full, all day and sunlight. They only get partial, or a spackling of sunlight. If you live in the deep South, or in zones 7, or higher, then I would advise you to invest in a roll of shade cloth.... preferably about 40%. Basically, wherever your tomatoes are growing just drive some tall stakes into the ground in a square shape. Then just hang some shade cloth directly over your tomatoes, to where they are protected by the mid day sun, when the sun is straight over top. This will keep your tomatoes from getting stressed out, and prevent your flowers from falling off, and will also help your plants from getting common diseases that tomatoes sucomb to when they get stressed. This one thing will extend your tomatoe growing season and improve your fruit yield guaranteed. Now, by doing this, it can slightly slow down the plants speed of reaching maturity and producing tomatoes, but only by one to two weeks, and honestly if you live in the deep South, your growing season is long enough to where 2 weeks maximum will be worth the extra wait, in return of a longer tomatoe season and better yields in the end.
I have sissy hands and sissy arms 😮😂
$1,000 in tomato cages in that one row 😮
I have to wonder how many people got offended by the sissy remarks 🤣
Sissy hands 😂
Golly just supposed not being in Florida makes a difference 🙄!